No.343314
With Donald Trump continuing to win primaries and peddling his all-encompassing personal brand, the explanations for his success have begun to compound. Some say Trump speaks to dispossessed blue-collar workers. Others claim that Trump’s apparent authenticity resonates with cynical voters who have grown tired of stage-managed political campaigns.
These reasons are nothing new, though. “People are angry and always have been,” said Brent Boyea, an associate professor of political science at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Trump isn’t the first politician to exploit voter anger or unrest, or to challenge the so-called ‘establishment,’ and he won’t be the last.”
What is new about Trump, however, is that he has made this challenge in a thoroughly modern way: He is a troll, someone who scores rhetorical points with outrageous or controversial comments, consequences be damned.
Trump’s rise has been abetted in part by a loose configuration of social media users often collectively termed the “alt-right,” for lack of a better term. These individuals, many of whom proudly identify as trolls themselves, have developed a strong affinity for Trump, whom they characterize as one of the most skillful trolls in existence.
https://archive.is/J5fEa
No.343323
>>343314
these faggots dont get it
No.343324
So it isn't our imagination, we really are being flooded with Trumptrolls.
No.343329
They don't address why more and more people might be getting more and more angry. They will continue spitting out the narrative that everything is fine even when the water is up to their own necks at the helm of the ship.
No.343330
>>343329
>They don't address why more and more people might be getting more and more angry. They will continue spitting out the narrative that everything is fine even when the water is up to their own necks at the helm of the ship.
Nor do they explain how a small group of online trolls are sweeping primaries.
No.343340
>thinking a yuge and growing swath of the Burgerland public are chantards
Riiiiight.
Thanks for all that great insight OP!
No.343345
I guess calling it trolling is easier than dealing with the fact that people are so tired of the established democratic process that they'd rather have a kook for president than deal with more of this bullshit. I would rather deal with whatever consequences come from electing Trump than deal with all those other clowns who will undoubtedly bring more of the same.
No.343353
They forgot to mention how we are single, childless, and masturbate to anime.
No.343355
No.343364
Are TrumpTrolls the right-wing wing boogeyman than BernieBros are for the left?
No.343366
>>343364
>>343364
lurk moar newfeg
No.343371
>>343314
they created us, we are real. donald trump is real. you cant delete him from your friends list, you cant shadowban reality. the usa has been trolling the world since 1776. we no longer dress as indians and dump tea in the port, we pose as furries and dump dank memes on your twitter feed. you still havent figured us out and the thing that will frustrate you the most is what you will realize on your deathbed, trying so desperately to map out humanity in a way that will allow it to be manipulated and led was a complete waste, and your life was a complete waste.
No.343379
>>343371
> the usa has been trolling the world since 1776
>would Poor Richard again/10
No.343382
No.343385
>>343329
It's not that they don't get it (i mean sure, they don't), but they actively ignore it. They label trump supporters as angry white men who are afraid of losing their influence, and in the next sentence celebrate that soon whites will be a minority and ebil pale faces won't have political power anymore. Like, are they listening to themselves?
No.343388
>>343385
>>343385
Delusion is a helluva drug.
No.343392
>>343364 No the BernieBros are a group of gay men shilling for penis.
No.343393
>>343388
Stay mad, shillary.
No.343396
>>343393
haha i actually meant the libtards talking out both sides of they're mouths, but yea, I'm sure her shrill screeches will be through the roof come debate season. The establishment is FUCKING TERRIFIED of this man heh.
No.343399
>>343314
Bush or Trump?
I'd go with Bush, because despite his stupidity, he's honest. Trump is both dishonest AND stupid.
No.343402
>>343399
>dub dubs checked
>IQ ~156
>One of the most successful private empires around
K.
No.343415
>>343396
Well then, sorry for jumping to conclusions.
All glory to his trumpness, comrade.
No.343423
No.343434
>>343415
nprb m80. easy to see how it could be misconstrued–i need to sharpen up muh_prose no doubt heh.
No.343436
No.343441
>>343314
so ignore him.
the fact that the mainstream media isn't ignoring him is the clearest sign that he's already been bought. you can't be the fucking POTUS unless you're bought. it's like rule #1.
No.343444
>>343441
heh, not this go round friendo.
:D
No.343445
>>343441
tbqh putting a candidate like Trump up to be "controlled opposition" to "filter" white male anger and expand it to make even more controversial, racialist topics things people can support publicly seems like a really retarded thing to do if your plan is to then once again backstab your base of white males, being that that would make it clear that violence was the best solution
No.343446
What's to understand, they've go three brain cells between them.
No.343447
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>>343446
apparently some pretty powerful 3 brain cells heh.
probably super-fukken charged and stuff ehh
No.343448
>shilling for politicians
No.343450
>>343399
>>343402
I'll keep my moral and political beliefs to a limit here and say that I've had a hard time finding somebody I agree with to vote for. This has been ongoing, but Obama really made it clear who I wanted as president; Emperor Palpatine. Emphasis on the Emperor part, I want the strong leader with clear goals and motivations, that strives for greatness. It's the evil I know, the evil I understand and while I disagree with it, it's a step up from what we, as Americans, keep getting offered.
Trump is, as far as I know, the closest thing I'll ever get to this. It's my realistic compromise that I'll never get a GOOD leader, so settling for an evil one I want Emperor Palpatine. The sudden rise of the "Emperor Trump" meme just made it all the funnier to me in a dark comedy sorta way.
No.343453
>>343450
Heh fair enough then anon.
No.343455
>>343323
Oh no,no , Your legitimate concerns that Trump is actually addressing like {Identity/Out-sourced jobs/Entrenched establishment government/Growing cargo-cult culture/ Impending outside threats} This is all Trolling
Don't worry guys it's all for the Lulz.
No.343456
>>343450
you just blew my mind, im totally going to use hollywood to validate my beliefs from now on
No.343459
>>343455
>Growing cargo-cult culture
Perfect. This is exactly the memery I've been trying to figure out behind the SJWtardery happening. Thanks anon.
>"Thou hast hit upon it friend wiggle!"
>-Prince Rilian
No.343464
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>>343353
evidence does point to that
No.343465
>>343464
>dat filename doe
No.343471
>>343459
If i had artistic talent I'd draw crates marked welfare parachuting and sjw's all screaming with delight.
No.343475
>>343459
if properly understood i feel like it might cause sjws to implode
No.343479
>>343464
All that midwest incest
MIDWEST INCEST would be a good band name
No.343483
>troll army
Trump fans aren't just any trolls, they're the Emerald Legion: Unkillable cyborg super soldiers created by a wizard's eugenics project.
No.343484
>>343464
>>343464
>>343464
>>343464
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
You mean losers are now a voting bloc?
No.343488
>>343485
example devil worshiper post
No.343493
>>343490
Satanist, though.
No.343495
>>343450
And this is what people really fucking fail to understand when I try to explain this to them. They keep on wanting to have this 'straight outta the box' Mr. Perfect president and fail to see that were on very limited time and resources to pander about. But then it's been the whole Morals vs. Logic thing happening so far and it seems someone just needs to give a very hard dose of reality to the public whether they like it or not.
No.343496
>>343450
>>>343450
>And this is what people really fucking fail to understand when I try to explain this to them. They keep on wanting to have this 'straight outta the box' Mr. Perfect president and fail to see that were on very limited time and resources to pander about. But then it's been the whole Morals vs. Logic thing happening so far and it seems someone just needs to give a very hard dose of reality to the public whether they like it or not.
No.343497
>>343385
According to Trumpdrones, it's impossible to be opposed to both bullshit "social justice" AND corrupt assholes like Trump. They simply can't comprehend it. Just like the SJWs who simply can't comprehend that anyone could be outside their little mainstream media narrative, or that anyone could disagree with them and with their enemies.
>HATE THEM
>NO, HATE THEM
>no, you're both idiots
>HE MUST BE ONE OF THEM
>NO, HE MUST BE ONE OF THEM
Delusional cowards all.
No.343499
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
(*) Cruz won't do shit
(*) Hillary won't do shit
(*) Sanders won't do shit
(*) Johnson won"t do shit
And that is why the Lord wills it, that is why TRUMP will win.
And that is why you are all LOSERS.
Goodbye, LOSERS.
No.343501
>>343495
>ail to see that were on very limited time and resources to pander about
This.
>"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."
>-GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR.
No.343503
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No.343508
>>343434
Nice sequence.
HOLY FUCK FOR REAL?
No.343509
>>343497
Strawman, pls. Vote whoever you fucking want to asshole.
see you in November
No.343512
<^>
-\/-
everywhere losers! everywhere!
BUILD THE WALL
No.343513
>>343508
Heh, Trump [will be] literally the first meme President.
No.343514
>>343502
But more on this point.
The valiant, the ingenious, they aren't suave. They don't think about delivery of lines, etc.
Why?
Because they ARE SOMETHING.
They aren't posing.
You're posing, and you're nothing more than a clothing rack walking around.
fffhf! GONE! The wind!
No.343516
>>343513
WRONG
All election campaigns have had slogans. Slogans ARE memes.
No.343518
>>343514
You have no idea who I am anon, any more than I you.
those it strikes me that you're a fairly pretentious little cocksucker.
No.343520
No.343522
/pol/ before chump
>Jews are behind everything
>Fire the ovens!
>The world would be a better place without Jews!
>Every bad thins is because Jews want to nickle and dime everyone else!
/pol/ after chump
>Yeah well not all Jews are bad
>You can't do business without allying yourself with the Jews!
>/pol/ never really hated the Jews anyway!
No.343523
>>343514
it will be hilarious when the campaigns get a clue and start trying to imitate his style
No.343524
>>343518
>I say you're posing
>you posted emotional postures
>you post another similar
>an as-if-I-were-not-nothing
If words sufficed then you would be adequate without dressing up your hardly-anything self.
I cannot possibly have much of an idea who you are, for nothing, while a pretty big idea in a sense, can never be much, can it?
No.343525
>>343522 (checked)
Wonder what sort of mental gymnastics was involved.
No.343529
>>343523
It's not style. It's being someone.
>>343522
/pol/ is just posts by many different people.
Some of them are jews themselves.
Some of them are trolls.
There is no /pol/ "identity."
No.343532
>>343524
>Yep, definitely
So, lay a few of those BFIdeas on me bro.
No.343533
Someone post the time when someone said that there was nothing wrong with being a Jew on /pol/ and educate this kid >>343529
No.343534
>>343533
Where is that post from?
No.343535
>>343532
Let me give you an example.
You are a rapist by nature, for, whatever you may lay hands on and take, and find the snake-hunger for, you take.
And so, if we look at your "skins" or poses, they are nothing more than reptile pose-strikings.
What are you?
Nothing.
Nothing but cancer.
>>343533
It doesn't matter, man. It doesn't matter.
There's nothing you can do but watch now.
There there.
No.343537
>>343535
Hmm, interesting. Think these things up all alone?
No.343540
>>343393
where's that green text with "obama, you're fired"
No.343542
The reason is this:
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
You are welcome, sirs.
Yours,
Myself,
The Genius in Resident
No.343543
>>343542
Structure is good for the economy.
No.343545
>>343543
The topic is understanding Trump's "army." The answer is:
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
Start a new thread if you want to discuss the economy. There are many things to discuss, regarding the economy, for example, 14% of outstanding auto loans are to persons with no credit. Most of those will default this summer, because they were taken out on oil/gas proof of paycheck, and oil/gas has gone bust (layoffs haven't been reported fully, but are something like 75%).
No.343547
>>343445
>>343445
Real easy to quantify that;
It makes the alt-right look like bullies to any opposition. So much so that they'll make Trumpfans seem like future Dylan Roofs and no gun privileges For U, because you're not right in the head.
No.343548
>>343513
Our Meme Magic is so powerful that the US Government actually has a branch dedicated to trying to harness it.
No.343552
>Kill all white males, death to white people, all white people are racist, white privilege, all white peoples money belongs to me gibsmedats, open borders for white people
>"Why are all these white people turning against us?"
No.343553
>>343545
no, i kinda like it here my little friendo.
>>343548
HAH!
>inb4 mem who stare at goatse
No.343556
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
Cruz won't
Hillary won't.
Bernie won't.
Johnson won't.
Cruz will do nothing.
Hillary will do nothing.
Bernie will do nothing.
Johnson will do nothing.
>>343553
^ Satanist
No.343557
>>343522
>>343543
imagine a world where ben garrisons cartoons could be spread far and wide because they werent rendered useless by /pol/ photoshoping jews on them.
/pol/ has become far more effective now that it can stop its confirmation bias and focus on real shit.
No.343558
>>343345
I never knew people were so gung-ho
for having a second Iraq
No.343560
>>343557
Nice point anon.
>>343556
>Satanist
lolnewp. far from it. welp, ima gun slepp nao, but I'll leave u with one final tiny BFIdea to think about if you care heh.
>
No.343574
>>343557
>thinks pol Photoshops Jews into Ben Garrison Cartoons
>clearly knows nothing about ben
Pol doesn't Photoshop Jews on. The cartoons come in two versions.
No.343578
>>343574
Ben Garrison doesn't even exist.
He's an elaborate hoax made up by /pol/acks.
No.343580
>>343556
>TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
to keep the crazy out or what?
No.343582
No.343584
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
bernie won't, he's hot on cucking.
hiliary won't, she's bubba fronting.
cruz cannot, he's from cuba
johnson cannot, he's toking (pbuh)
>>343560
^ Satanist
No.343588
>>343584
nah, it'll end up like that hotel/resort
he'll /say/ he's going to build it, then
embezzle the money.
No.343599
Trump will:
Audit Federal Reserve
Build Mexican Border Wall
Build Canadian Border Wall
Deport All Jews
Build Mexican Border Wall
Legalize Cannabis and Industrial HEMP
Nuke Israel
Build Mexican Border Wall
Ban All GMOs
Build Mexican Border Wall
Build Mexican Border Wall
End Democracy
No.343602
>>343599
>Legalize Cannabis and Industrial HEMP
bullshit. it's too useful for attacking minorities for
him to do that in the short term, and Trump's
eternally in the short term.
>End Democracy
assuming it was actually there already.
given the fact that Democrats and Republicans
have supported the Afghanistan war, and
Obama continued Bush-era national "security"
policies (Those who sacrifice liberty for security…)
the differences have mostly been over social policies
and they both tend to do the will of corporations?
(no DMCA reform/elimination in the works… etc)
it seems mostly a choice between two very similar cakes
sure, the social diffs are important, but what /do/ you have
when you eliminate those?
No.343605
>>343602
Nice bait, faggot. Go back to /leftypol/
No.343617
>>343560
>newly born protein
>born
>protein
Jesus fuck even the science textbooks try to skew your thinking.
No.343622
>>343480
>random_asian_thumbsup_guy.gif
That's Chow Yun Fat in the movie A Better Tomorrow 2.
The more you know.
No.343628
>>343617
lol metaphor
a stupid metaphor
(should be newly manufactured)
but still a metaphor/turn of phrase
No.343631
trump won't be stumped. people need to get over this. of course he'll be a terrible president, but that doesn't matter at this point since presidency is not part of his appeal.
people want to see him wreck havoc, troll congress & make liberals cry, as he squashes the welfare state like bug. it will be fucking glorious, like a natural disaster.
No.343633
>>343631
and also probably fuck up America for forever, but who's going to care about a little thing like that?
No.343637
>>343633
america won't be ruined but it's already fucked up hard, thanks to the democrats who's constant pandering to the lazy and the meek.
trump is a much needed stirring hand in the cauldron of politics. but don't worry, he'll only sit for 4 years, and you guys managed to survive george bush…
No.343643
>>343637
haha nope. it'll fuck america up more.
and it's fucked up by stuff the democrats and the republicans have been doing, i.e. the expansion of the sec state and corporations.
and GWB was a useful idiot for the people who wanted that shit. Trump's a neo-fascist, created by the southern stratergy + War on Terror hysteria (ain't any real communist states anymore…need a new enemy to fight…hey, some muslim fundamentalist group the CIA funded just crashed a plane into the twin towers). expect the sec state and military-industrial complex to expand massively. FinFisher's devs to get govt. contracts, NSA expanding surveliance ops, etc., massively accelerated.
No.343647
>>343643
i should have mentioned the republicans being cunts too, they are after all just a different shade of socalism.
as an european, we need trump to win. the political climate in europe has always been dictated by the us. and thanks to years of socialistic malpractice by the goverment and the recent immigration crisis, europe is on it's knee's financially.
we can't clean up europe unless we go in a conservative direction, and sadly, we need trump to be victorious before politicians are willing to take the hint & listen to the will of the people
No.343652
>>343647
>immigration crisis
ahahaha
it's only a crisis since it's hard to legally immigrate to the EU. and quite frankly, I could be said to be in favour of totally open borders so…
No.343658
>>343652
Give me the keys to your house then. Your house door is an oppressive border infringing on my human rights.
No.343659
>>343658
a country isn't anything like a house.
No.343660
>>343659
Let's compromise, you can have a lock on your room door (for now), but you keep your door unlocked.
No.343661
>>343652
those "immigrants" are just niggers long for free government handouts. i've only encountered a few actual immigrants (very nice, humble people). the rest are just a bunch of ungrateful, financial parasites. the government could easily solve this problem by:
>declare open borders
>detract all welfare benefits
No.343662
>>343661
Yes, the government should fuck over the poorest of its citizens just so that we can have unlimited numbers of potentially violent third worlders flood into our country and cause mass chaos. Great idea.
No.343663
>>343661
>niggers
totes not racist.
>ungrateful, financial parasites
so are large corporations, yet they don't get punished
>>343662
the governments tent to fuck over the poorest anyway, due to the way wealth tends to concentrate around the ruling class. and the fact that the capital-S State tends to fuck the people below it.
No.343664
>>343662
they're not poor at all. that's just what they claim in order to get free stuff. and their countries suck because they & their cultures suck and moving them to the west won't solve anything.
>>343663
i never said i wasn't racist. racism is an sjw concept to which i don't subscribe.
No.343665
>>343664
>racism is an sjw concept
only the redefinition of racism as "prejudice plus power" could be claimed as an SJW concept.
I guess this just goes to show how useless a term SJW is.
No.343669
>>343665
Excatly, one isn't an SJW by talking about racism, one is an SJW by having a double standard about it, too.
No.343670
>>343662
The Moslems are in Europe for one thing and one thing only: welfare. Cut that off, and you're not going to see any new arrivals. However, with the massive jobless Moslem population now present, any attempts at reform (or repeal) are going to end in massive rioting.
Why? Because the vast majority of these "immigrants" simply don't want to work, and you're cutting off their sole source of income.
No.343671
>>343665
i'vw only heard sjw's using that term. i've yet to encounter an normal person who cares about racism or thinks that #blacklivesmatter
caring about that racism is a hobby for the upper class
No.343673
>>343669
eh. "prejudice plus power" is a definition for institutional racism, but for general racism it ain't a good definition.
>>343670
or the job market it too saturated? also, cutting off welfare would piss a lot of people off, not just the lazy, wellfare addict, "Moslem" you're imagining.
>>343671
meh. SJW is a meaningless term; it basically means "whoever is to the left of the person speaking".
No.343703
No.343709
>Donald Dumb inherited almost all of his wealth
No.343716
>>343314
You can't dump the Trump, faggots.
You keep trying to "explain" Trump's support as some kind of anomaly or result of racism or anger, but the thing is people supporting Clinton or Sanders are equally as fucked in the head.
It's like saying Scientologists are crazy when in fact, anyone who follows any organized religion is fucked in the head to the same degree.
No.343718
>mfw Trump is a real life Anita
No.343720
Trolling all the way to the white house has never been so much fun.
No.343723
>>343716
>It's like saying Scientologists are crazy when in fact, anyone who follows any organized religion is fucked in the head to the same degree.
yet slightly less fucked in the wallet
>You keep trying to "explain" Trump's support as some kind of anomaly or result of racism or anger, but the thing is people supporting Clinton or Sanders are equally as fucked in the head.
not mutually exclusive though.
and racism and anger would be pretty good explanations.
No.343726
>>343723
>yet slightly less fucked in the wallet
That's debatable. Who do you think pays for this?
>and racism and anger would be pretty good explanations.
It's too easy for them to say that though. It discounts his entire campaign and the millions of Americans who support him.
No.343733
>>343726
>it discounts his campaign and supporters
not really.
racism has been (admittedly more subtly) the bedrock of Republican election strategies since Nixon
No.343734
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>>343716
>Anyone who follows any organized religion is fucked in the head to the same degree
I think attending your regular Christiaan church on Sundays is better than joining some a Muslim, black supremacist UFO religion that's based in America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam
>People supporting Clinton or Sanders are equally fucked in the head.
Much more fucked in the head, because they just try to find any faults in their enemies and never analyze what will it mean for the US and for the rest of the fucking world if a senile liberal socialist on steroids ends up becoming the President up to 8 years.
They'd rather avoid the uncomfortable feeling of being objective.
Pic related, something uncomfortable
No.343736
>>343734
>what would happen if Sanders was elected
better than what would happen if Trump was elected? though seriously, Sanders' supporters thinking that they can get the kind of change they want other than by some form of revolution is naïve, due to how closely tied corporate interests are with governments.
No.343738
>>343733
checked
I don't remember either Bush running on a white power platform. I think real racism has given way to just simple preference in the younger generations. Many white people just prefer to stay as far away from negroes as they can get and that doesn't make them racist.
As for Trump, his supporters just want to live in a white American America. Is that so wrong?
No.343741
>>343733
>racism has been (admittedly more subtly) the bedrock of Republican election strategies since Nixon
Both parties are racist.
The republicunts are racist against blacks but the dumbocraps are racist against whites.
No.343742
>>343726
>It discounts his entire campaign and the millions of Americans who support him.
Trump & everything he stands for is doing that enough already. And I don't mean racism at all. The more important issue is that he's the corporate candidate. He _is_ the establishment, the embodiment of it. And you tards are just helping him fuck you.
Trump is the status quo.
Some retards just buy into the "alpha male" meme, because you're so "cucked", yourselves. Don't worry, big daddy Trump will take care of you, lmao. Why be a man, when he can be one for you?
No.343743
No.343744
>>343738
>I don't remember either Bush running on a white power platform.
You dont?
In my state they had these huge posters that said 'vote for bush and he will exterminate all the niggers'.
Thats the only reason I vote for him tbh.
No.343745
No.343747
>>343741
So then vote for Sanders.
He's the longest serving Independent candidate in US history.
And he isn't part of the financial establishment who really runs this country.
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>>343734
>attending your regular Christiaan church on Sundays is better than joining some a Muslim, black supremacist UFO religion
The entirety of Islam is fucked and is in a whole different category all its own. Which is partly why many Americans don't want more Muslims in America.
>they just try to find any faults in their enemies and never analyze what will it mean for the US and for the rest of the fucking world if a senile liberal socialist on steroids ends up becoming the President up to 8 years.
Trump is being completely discounted by everyone who doesn't support him it seems. He wants a well defined Mexican border - he's a racist. He wants to limit Muslim's entering the US - he's a racist.
One thing Trump IS that these assholes aren't talking about is - a leader.
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>>343314
Funny how they always neglect to mention the spectre of a Hillary Clinton presidency. That's the real reason most people are voting Trump.
No.343751
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>>343742
>Trump is the status quo.
Nigga, you just went full Yoko.
No.343752
>>343747
>Independent candidate
He's not independent if he's running for the Democratic nomination.
No.343755
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>>343709
>almost all of his wealth
[citation needed]
No.343758
>>343751
>ad hominem
You've got nothing to counter
>>343752
>He's not independent if he's running for the Democratic nomination.
Lmao, you really don't know much about politics, do you?
It's the first time in his political career, and it's only to get exposure & actually have a chance, because our two-party system is so corrupt they're the only ones who have a chance, media-wise.
No.343759
>>343324
Are you new here?
No.343760
>>343747
I thought Sanders was a democrap too?
Sanders is probably the most racist politician in the running.
He was the one who said that white people dont experience poverty and how white lives dont matter and only black lives matter.
Hitlary is definitely less racist than Sanders.
No.343762
>>343758
>Lmao, you really don't know much about politics, do you?
I'll take that as an "oh shit, anon is right, better go into damage control" moment. Bernie is a Democrat, NOT an independent.
No.343764
>>343758
>In November 2015, Sanders announced that he would be a Democrat from then on, and will run in any future elections as a Democrat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Party_affiliation_since_2015
No.343765
>>343760
>I thought Sanders was a democrap too?
No, he's not. He only chose to run on the ticket for exposure.
>He was the one who said that white people dont experience poverty and how white lives dont matter and only black lives matter.
Never said that.
>Hitlary is definitely less racist than Sanders.
Lmao, there's no way anyone legitimately believes that.
>Hillary
>What are super predators?
No.343766
>>343733
>racism has been (admittedly more subtly) the bedrock of Republican election strategies since Nixon
That doesnt makes sense.
Racism is prejudice plus power.
But the Republicans arent in power right now the Democrats are.
So its impossible for the republicans to be racist.
No.343767
>>343747
who are so deeply entrenched that one politician won't help.
>>343749
>He wants to limit Muslim's entering the US - he's a racist.
he also wants to ID them all. and wants to ban them all
>The entirety of Islam is fucked
I'm pretty sure they said the same about russians during the cold war.
>>343752
was an independant. then he got bought out.
because the faux-democratic system in the US.
>>343760
>how white lives dont matter and only black lives matter.
because that's totally what the BLM campaign actually means. yep. totally.
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No.343769
>>343762
Prove it, faggot. Prove he only didn't recently choose to run on their ticket for exposure & hasn't been an Independent his entire political career.
He was even with the Libertarian Liberty Party in the 70s. As anti-establishment as it gets.
No.343770
>>343767
>was an independant.
He is now democrat. Suck it.
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No.343773
>>343769
>prove he only didn't recently
GOAL POSTS MOVED!!!
You lose.
No.343774
>>343764
>>343768
Same link, which only proves my point.
No.343775
>>343772
>He was the one who said that white people dont experience poverty and how white lives dont matter and only black lives matter.
Quote where he's ever said this.
No.343776
>>343522
Blatantly false.
Literally the first post in the thread
No.343777
>>343767
>I'm pretty sure they said the same about russians during the cold war.
Except all we had then was what our government told us about the Russkies. Now WE have a Quran at our disposal not to mention scores of terror attacks on Americans.
A religion founded by a guy who married a 6 year old girl which at its core espouses wholesale murder of non-adherents? No thanks.
No.343778
>>343773
Your link proves he only did it recently, you massive tard. He's been an Independent his entire political career, and is the longest serving Independent in US history.
You can't prove otherwise, because it's fact. And your only supplying links to prove that fact.
No.343779
>>343774
No, no it doesn't. LOL
No.343780
>>343736
It seems that Trump's presidency will be the icing on the cake for the TPP, from the few bits of it I have read, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, unless you're a pedo, torrent a lot of crap, and live on minimum wage.
Everything has been monitored online for years now, anyway
Then again, I'm saying this without having fully read what the TPP is about, so don't take it so seriously, but I don't consider it something to be concerned about, given how fucked up things are economically at this point
>>343749
It's strange how in [the current year] it's racist for a nation to prevent illegal immigration and for revising more thoroughly people who's religious fundamentalism 'levels' can't be measured.
And that blew up two skyscrapers and are currently beheading Americans in Syria.
Self-defense is racism now.
No.343781
Didn't trump go bankrupt 11 times? What can i use to retort to this.
No.343782
>>343778
You said he's an Independant. He is not. You lose.
No.343784
>>343781
3 times, out of hundreds of successful deals. Now compare that to Bernie and Hillary. Trump wins again.
No.343785
>pic related, Trump taking it from his higher ups within the financial establishment
Trump is the status quo. You faggots are only continuing the collapse of the US into a straight out Plutocracy.
No.343786
>>343778
I was the original person who you replied to.
I dont care if hes independent or not (although plenty of people do seem to care)
The key point I was making is that Bernie is just as racist against white people as all the other Democrats.
No.343787
>>343780
>Min wage
Meant *Welfare
No.343788
>>343779
Solid argument, anon. :^)
No.343789
>>343782
What are you, twelve, anon? Learn to debate like a big boy.
No.343790
>>343788
You said "He's the longest serving Independent candidate in US history.", but it turns out he's been a Democrat since 2015. You lose.
No.343792
>>343780
>Self-defense is racism now.
Yep, the definition of "racism" is expanding considerably to suit the agenda of black racists and social justice warriors, no doubt.
It's getting to the point where people will just have to admit to being racist because the definition is becoming so broad.
No.343793
>>343785
>Trump is the status quo.
No.343794
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>>343785
I love how worried you are about Trump. I can literally masturbate to thinking about how sick you feel right now.
No.343795
>>343786
>Clearly moving goal posts
Bernie's for financial/economic reform, and has been working his entire political career to balance out power to the working people. A more even playing ground economically helps everyone. Stop playing to idpol, faggot.
No.343796
>>343790
Stupid fuck, do you even know what you're arguing? You just refuted yourself.
No.343797
>>343795
If anything Im moving the goalpoasts back to where they originally were after you moved them.
No.343798
>>343795
>Bernie's for financial/economic reform
True, but he has no idea how to do it.
No.343799
>>343793
>again with no argument
No.343803
>>343798
>blatantly retarded meme with no factual basis
/pol/ really can't argue with facts, only shit memes
No.343804
>>343766
that's just the definition for INSTITUTIONAL racism
>>343769
libertarians? what kind? right-libertarians, I presume
>>343770
did you miss "then he got bought out"
>>343772
nothing in that article says that.
it says that white poverty is different from black poverty, which is true, due to, at the very least, the remnants of racism + classism, rather than white poverty, which is probably just classism.
classism is still fucking shit either way.
>>343780
and who funded the group that crashed planes into the Towers, and spawned the group in syria
oh that's right: THE CIA.
islamic extremism is a massive example of blowback, and quite frankly I'm not sure if IS isn't an example as well.
No.343805
>>343796
What did you expect from some autistic guy that's posting image macros from 2009
No.343806
>>343803
It's almost like this is an IMAGE BOARD
No.343807
>>343797
>I was only pretending, guise
No.343808
>>343804
> "then he got bought out"
Then how is he still an Independant? You lose.
No.343810
>>343807
What are you on about now?
No.343811
>>343805
>posting image macros from 2009
Trump and Bernie have only been running since 2015, dumbass.
No.343813
>>343804
>nothing in that article says that.
I can play that game too. The article says that Bernie is a cuck and only consumes the semen of black men.
No.343814
>>343804
Basic Libertarian stuff. There's a good article from him with the Liberty party saying that the government shouldn't impose its "moral" authority onto the people, in making laws against drugs, homosexuality, etc.
Google the Liberty Party + Sanders. Some pretty interesting stuff.
No.343817
>>343808
how retarded are you.
I'm saying he was independent, then got bought out because that's what you have to do to get power in modern faux-democracies.
>>343814
still right leaning.
No.343818
>>343801
>>343802
The only one butthurt is the one who spergs out with butthurt memes. :^)
No.343819
>>343817
>I'm saying he was independent
You said he "is" not "was".
No.343820
>>343784
How many times did Bernie and Shillary go bankrupt?
No.343822
>>343820
You have to be a success first before you can fail.
No.343825
>>343804
>it says that white poverty is different from black poverty, which is true
The difference is the level of support.
Black people in poverty have all sorts of support groups to help them.
They have affirmative action to make it easier to get a good job or education.
Where as white people are always told they are evil oppressors even if they live in poverty.
I bet Bernie didnt mention any of that did he?
No? Because just like I said hes racist against white people.
No.343826
>>343804
>Islamic extremism is a massive exxample of blowback, and quite frankly I'm not sure if IS isn't an example as well
But we sure have a widespread, legitimate, and negative idea of Muslims since 2001, don't we? (Except for the liberals that have blown out of proportion)
So partly, that worked. The cost-benefit of the wars wasn't that positive though..
No.343828
>>343820
And yet, Trump is currently worth $4.5Billion USD.
I'd say he's had FAR more successes than failures.
No.343829
>>343820
>How many times did Bernie and Shillary go bankrupt?
Morally? Every day.
No.343830
>>343826
>So partly, that worked. The cost-benefit of the wars wasn't that positive though..
Im sure Trump wouldnt have let Turkey get all the oil contracts in Iraq.
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>>343825
>hes racist against white people
Sanders has drank the BLM koolaid.
No.343833
>>343817
>still right leaning.
I guess so. He's polling surprisingly good with Independent & Republicans atm. This is helping him poll greater than Shillary when it comes to either of them running against Trump, hypothetically.
I'm used to be a bit conservative in my younger years. If the Republican establishment would actually stick to their principles in saying "smaller government" things would actually be better right now, imo. The problem is, big business complains about not being "free market" enough, at the same time infiltrating any government agency that will give them a business leg up. It's quite insane(that people don't notice this), but lucrative.
No.343836
>>343825
Division politics at its finest. While you argue amongst yourselves, they laugh all the way to the bank.
This goes with either establishment party nowadays, really.
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No.343838
>>343833
Im just trying to undersand your thought process here:
Because the small government candidates werent following through with their promise of small government you changed to a candidate that wants a huge overbearing totalitarian government?
No.343841
>>343838
Since the government is a Plutocracy atm, we have to work on getting their grip off of politics before we can even address anything.
No.343842
>>343836
The only difference with the democrats is that you have to put up with the feminazis immingrants, gays liberals etc etc
Under the democrats the old rich dude still gets all your money. Just like the republicans.
No.343843
>>343830
True.
At least I can defend my argument by saying that the cost-benefit of the wars was morally not that positive worldwide for their views on the US.
But that would be lying since I meant that economically.
No.343844
>>343794
>no argument…. again
The only thing I'm worried about is continuing the Plutocracy/status quo.
No.343845
>>343841
>Since the government is a Plutocracy atm, we have to work on getting their grip off of politics before we can even address anything.
I agree with you.
If thats your primary concern shouldnt you be voting for Rand Paul?
No.343847
>>343845
I actually did vote for him, my home state is KY. He did some good things in regards to decriminalizing weed(made it a ticketable offense instead of jailtime in most cases). Problem is, he either sold out or wasn't for us in the first place. Turns out he's just as establishment as the others.
No.343848
>>343842
And with the Republican party you have just as much insanity. Racists, uneducated people who vote against their own self interests religiously.
No.343849
>>343836
irregardless of your political position, you hit the nail on the fucking head.
>>343838
>huge overbearing totalitarian government
either party is giving that, due to the sec state.
"small government" mostly means small on economic restrictions, corporate responsibility, less welfare etc. while still beefing up the military-industrial complex
the sec state, the police ,etc.
>>343842
different anon here but…
Feminists (and sex-negative and TERF feminists often support the anti-pornographic and anti-trans measures republicans support; politics makes strange bed fellows, I suppose), immigrants, gays, and liberals, are, IMO than the kind of people who vote republican to oppose the above.
>>343845
>voting for Rand Paul
again, diff anon but Rand Paul being anti-plutocratic? lmao
>>343847
no surprises there.
>>343848
often due to there own religion.
No.343850
>>343849
"…THEIR own religion…"
fucking typos.
No.343852
>>343848
>>343848
>Racists, uneducated people who vote against their own self interests religiously.
Is that a subtle dig at black republicans?
No.343854
>>343852
white poor republicans I would as well assume.
No.343858
>>343854
Oh right. I was going to say that black republicans have a much better education on average than black democrats.
Obviously no political party represents the interests of poor white people. That should go without saying.
No.343859
>>343852
I don't care about idpol, what race anyone is, etc.
No.343861
>>343858
no party represents poor people in general, tbh.
No.343862
>>343858
>Obviously no political party represents the interests of poor white people. That should go without saying.
Maybe not a political party, but candidates like Sanders do. Income inequality & fighting Plutocracy is his entire platform. Let's hope he can get some things accomplished within our system. At least he's getting these issues the exposure they so desperately need.
No.343864
>>343849
>irregardless of your political position, you hit the nail on the fucking head.
Hopefully we can rally together to address it. All is not yet lost.. I hope.
No.343865
>>343862
>Maybe not a political party, but candidates like Sanders do.
He thinks white people dont even experience poverty.
In his mind, white people dont need help because we are all super rich like he is.
No.343866
>>343859
The person I was replying to clearly does.
No.343867
>>343865
Get outta here with that divisive crap.
And see related webm >>343795
>In his mind, white people dont need help because we are all super rich like he is.
He's super rich? I thought all Trumpfags say he's completely unsuccessful? Besides how retarded you sound by saying this, anyway.
>>343866
And it was me, anon.
No.343868
>>343865
again, that article doesn't say that.
>>343862
>Let's hope he can get some things accomplished within our system.
everyone's got to hope for "something" I guess. I hope for some kind of revolution, you hope for change within the current system. either way…
No.343869
>>343867
>And it was me, anon.
So one moment you are going on about racism and evil white people.
Then in the next post you say you arent interested in idpol.
Which is it?
No.343872
>>343867
>He's super rich? I thought all Trumpfags say he's completely unsuccessful?
Thats what happens when you judge a whole group of people based on your preconceived notions.
Just like Bernie when he prejudges white people.
No.343873
>>343867
>He's super rich?
Bernie is one of the richest 1% of people in the world.
No.343874
>>343872
>Just like Bernie when he prejudges white people.
verify that claim.
No.343875
>>343868
>everyone's got to hope for "something" I guess. I hope for some kind of revolution, you hope for change within the current system. either way…
Nothing wrong with political revolution. :)
>>343869
>So one moment you are going on about racism and evil white people.
Wtf are you talking about? And just because racism exists doesn't mean white people are evil. Anyone can be racist.
No.343876
>>343873
Complete fabrication.
No.343877
>>343828
Another great reason not to vote for him
No.343878
>>343314
There's a good chance I'll wind up voting Trump. And it's not because I like the prick either.
Hillary is basically a mafia don. Just search up all the scandals the Clinton administration have been in. Not to mention her strategy for the Middle East is "build up soldiers there to fight IS for us". Like we did with the soldiers who later became part of Isis to fight Al-Qaeda. Or like how we trained Al-Qaeda to fight the soviets. Or like how we trained the Vietcong to fight the Japanese. I think you see the pattern.
Cruz is a lobbyist puppet candidate. You can tell just by looking at his policies. Who the hell besides paid cable company shills is against net neutrality? And he's removing the overseas workers tax.
Sanders has the dumb idea that throwing money at all the problems will solve them. With America already operating at a loss, we'll be asking Greece for loans with him as president.
And while Trump will build a wall to try to keep out drug dealers who mostly come by boat or car (who the hell would lug 300lbs of meth across Texas on foot?) and bring feudalism to America with the removal of the death tax, he'll at least fix the medical industry.
Forcing hospitals to adhere to good business practices like not forcing your customers to pay when you didn't do anything for them and making them list their prices could have a tremendous effect on how much medical costs in the US.
Our health care costs twice as much as the 2nd highest costing country, there's fuckery going on there.
But if this reduces costs by even just 20%, that could save America over 200 billion dollars in spending. (the annual spending on Medicare/Medicaid is 1.05 trillion) And America is spending 400 billion more than it makes every year. He's possibly fixed half the problem with a single policy. If it brings our medical costs to a point where they are comparable to Canada's, he'll possibly have brought America to a point where it can start paying off it's debt with only a single policy.
Pretty much the reason Trump would be elected is similar to how Aussies say Tony Abbott got elected, the other guys are worse.
No.343879
>>343872
>Thats what happens when you judge a whole group of people based on your preconceived notions.
Ok, most all, anon.
>Just like Bernie when he prejudges white people.
You're just going to keep saying this, no matter how much you get disproven. Also something most all Trumpfags do. :^)
No.343880
Bernie Sanders (I-Vt) ranks 91st in the Senate with an estimated net worth* of $105,004 in 2009.
No.343882
>>343880
Wait, you're trying to prove he's a regular fuck like us, right?
>$105,004 is part of 1% or super rich
I really hope you're joking.
No.343883
>>343876
I just checked the numbers and its even worse than that..
Bernie gets $174,000 per year as a senator.
If you are paid 32,000 or above you are among the top 1% of wage earners globally.
Hell, someone on welfare in the UK (where im from) is among the worlds richest 10%.
Hes obviously in the top 0.1%.
Or to put it another way:
*Get some fucking perspective on the world you ignorant philistine*
No.343884
>>343879
>Also something most all Trumpfags do. :^)
All I see is more prejudice. Just like your idol Bernie.
No.343885
>>343882
>>$105,004 is part of 1% or super rich
If you earn more than $32,000 you are among the worlds richest 1%.
No.343888
>>343883
You hardly deserve to be in this conversation if you don't understand American economics.
Due to inflation, $100,000/year is mostly basic income in the US, if not a bit higher. He's middle class, here. That only means he can likely afford to pay most of his bills. Not rich, by any means.
>Hes obviously in the top 0.1%.
This isn't 1%
No.343890
>>343878
>"build up soldiers there to fight IS for us"
Syrian Kurdistan/Rojava is, at least in theory, less likely to be the oppresive hellhole that results from islamic fundamentalist insurgencies. and there's a reason turkey hasn't been called off from attacking them, because the US wants to fuck them up after they've finished being a catspaw, just like how IS might have been a catspaw in tiring to get rid of Assad, and if so, they're probably being smart about it this time.
>lobbyist puppet
that's true.
>throwing money
works better than throwing soldiers.
besides, do you know what a 'wall' would cost to build, if hid did indeed keep his promise
>the other guys are worse.
bullshit.
>>343885
but in the context of the US?
and 1% refers to the ownership of most of the wealth in the world, which goes way beyond earnings.
No.343892
>>343885
We're not talking about the world, we're talking about America.
You're not calculating inflation into the equation. And 1% means something completely different in the US, than your definition, anon.
>>343883
>Get some fucking perspective on the world you ignorant philistine
I'm actually in India atm, anon.
No.343893
>>343892
>We're not talking about the world, we're talking about America.
Actually if you take a look at my original post I specifically said the world.
>>343873
>I'm actually in India atm, anon.
I hope you are embracing the culture and openly shitting in the streets.
Im guessing you are an American in India because when I said 'the world' you presume I meant murrica.
Thats a weird trait you guys have it makes you seem big headed.
No.343894
>>343882
>he's a regular fuck like us, right?
Yep, he's a regular cuck. Nothing worse than an aspiring millionaire running for office. He can be bought, as with the rest of them.
Trump however is uncuckable.
No.343897
>>343894
>Trump trump trump
because he's too much of a fucknut already?
No.343898
>>343314
WEW
It seems they have regressed from depression back to denial
No.343901
>>343893
>Actually if you take a look at my original post I specifically said the world.
Then citation needed. And even if it is true, they're again not calculating inflation. $1000,000 in the US is insanely different than 100,000 pounds or other currencies. And it doesn't afford you as much as it might around the world. $100,000 is basic middle class income, here. I was actually surprised to see it's Bernie's income. I was expecting a bit higher, but am glad it isn't higher.
>I hope you are embracing the culture and openly shitting in the streets.
I'm in South India. I haven't seen this at all, within the past year & a half of being here. Am embracing the culture, though, actually.
>Thats a weird trait you guys have it makes you seem big headed.
Well, we are talking American politics in this thread. Otherwise, I'll give you that.
No.343902
>>343894
>being this retarded
Rather be potentially bought, than already bought, like Trump.
No.343904
>>343903
Because he's already too much of one, I assume?
No.343905
>>343902
Who are Trump's biggest campaign donors?
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No.343908
>>343905
>doesn't need campaign donors because he's obscenely rich
I wouldn't go with that argument, anon. And actually, he gladly takes money from the citizens, as well. Get started early, huh?
No.343910
>>343901
>Then citation needed.
Im surprised you need a citation for this if you live in India but here you go:
http://publications.credit-suisse.com/tasks/render/file/index.cfm?fileid=C26E3824-E868-56E0-CCA04D4BB9B9ADD5
>And even if it is true, they're again not calculating inflation. $1000,000 in the US is insanely different than 100,000 pounds or other currencies.
Thats not what inflation means.
Obviously the differences in currency value are already taken in to account in a report that spans many countries.
What isnt taken in to account is taxes and living costs which are lower in many countries than the US.
BUT taxes and living costs are lower in the US than where I live in the UK.
Even though the amount Americans earn is higher.
>I was actually surprised to see it's Bernie's income. I was expecting a bit higher, but am glad it isn't higher.
Its dangerous to pay politicians too little.
But personally I think $172,000 is a very generous income for a guy who doesnt actually do any hard work whatsoever.
>I'm in South India. I haven't seen this at all, within the past year & a half of being here. Am embracing the culture, though, actually.
That is interesting.
So all those thousands of threads on /n/ are lies?
No.343913
>>343765
Bernie Sanders saying white people don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQtoOWqZ_J4
Bernie Sanders asked if all lives matter or if black lives matter: you'll never guess what he replies :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNmcyic74A
You're welcome, Berniebro
No.343914
>>343908
Your desperation is almost as delicious as your tears will be on November 9th.
No.343916
>>343902
>>343894
>>343882
>>343880
Bernie may not be getting money from super pacs. Which is a good thing, very respectable. But he is
1) a communist
2) a cheerleader for the blm, chicago riot, and democracy spring communist bolshevik agitators
3) doesnt have a chance in hell at beating hillary
It is possible that in the end we will find out Trump was nothing more than a distraction. But he is also the only one who has the possibility of maybe following through and fixing this country peacefully.
And because of that he WILL win the nomination.
I think the best part of all this is all these marxists had this idea that they were the majority because they were extremely vocal and the masses for the most part were silent. But now enough is enough and the actual majority has stood up and started screaming. And because of the all these.. 'Democracy Now!' 'Democracy Spring' retards are crying that the only way to have democracy is to curtail democracy.
No.343918
>>343913
Read the thread, anon. See >>343795
Lmao, and that second Youtube video cuts out the rest of his answer. Typical uninformed public.
No.343919
>>343913
given the fact that ALM as a phrase was being used to sarcastically dismiss BLM…
>>343916
>a communist
what kind of communist do you mean here?
and quite frankly, he's more of an SD pretending to be a socialist.
No.343920
>>343916
>1) a communist
He is not a Communist.
>2)
Also wrong. Though he says black lives matter, he doesn't mean all lives don't matter. It's his platform to speak about the only color that matters - Green.
>Chicago riot
Complete bullshit. They're trying to connect him through 6 degrees of separation & slander him. Not going to work.
>democracy spring communist bolshevik agitators
Fucking hell, that's retarded. He's no more connected to this than the riots.
> But he is also the only one who has the possibility of maybe following through and fixing this country peacefully.
Trump is part of the financial establishment, the Plutocracy & the status quo we've been seeing over the past 3 decades, at least.
No.343921
>>343916
>I think the best part of all this is all these marxists had this idea that they were the majority because they were extremely vocal and the masses for the most part were silent.
This happened in the recent UK elections.
On social media, the left dominated the conversation.
Anyone who didnt follow all the left wing ideologies wholesale was attacked and ultimately silenced.
But when it came to election day, the conservatives won by a landslide. It was the biggest loss for Labour (our version of the democlaps) in their history.
The salt that flowed out from those left wing hugboxes was glorious to behold.
Global salt markets were sent in to crisis.
No.343922
>>343914
>again, with no argument
No.343923
>>343920
>He is not a Communist.
Yeah yeah.
Communist China wasnt communist. The soviet union wasnt communist. Bernie wasnt communist.
We have heard it all before.
No.343924
>>343919
>given the fact that ALM as a phrase was being used to sarcastically dismiss BLM…
Actually BLM was being used to sarcastically dismiss ALM.
No.343926
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No.343930
>>343921
because Ed Milliband was more of the same, Blairite/Brownite neolib shit, with retarded campaign decisions. anyone remember that stone block?
>>343924
but BLM was around first…
>>343923
the USSR was state-marxist-leninist-communist
I assume you have no idea what difference that makes though, but nevermind.
No.343931
>>343910
>it's 158 pages, anon
You're going to have to highlight something, please. But regardless, the opening preface includes
"Since 2010, the Credit Suisse Wealth Report has been the leading reference on global wealth. It contains the most comprehensive and up-to-date findings on global wealth across the entire wealth spectrum – from the very base of the “wealth pyramid,” capturing 3.4 billion adults with wealth below USD 10,000, to the millionaires, who account for 0.7% of adult population, but yet own 45.2% of global wealth."
That last part there, that is the problem.
>So all those thousands of threads on /n/ are lies?
Kind of. Mostly just fun shitposting. But from what I've heard it does happen in the North. I was sitting next to a Southern woman on the train last week, who went on an epic rant about Northerners & how they just litter(& shit, basically) with no regard for the Earth or social repercussions. They "expect others to clean it up", because it's "not their job". They put the task on the lower castes. But yeah, I haven't seen it in the South. I actually love it here & the countryside is awesome, reminds me of home.
No.343932
>>343923
>no argument
Sanders isn't communist.
No.343934
>>343932
he's SD, which is basically socialism to a homeopathic level of dilution.
No.343935
>>343933
>still no argument
No.343938
>>343932
Sanders is a gateway communist.
No.343939
A 74 year old guy worth $100K thinks he's gonna do things with our economy that no other president has ever done before.
No.343941
>>343933
oh no.
shit puns.
totes an indefensible argument the trumpmeister.
>>343938
I didn't know we still had Red-under-the-bed paranoia, I thought it was mainly Islamic-Terrorists-under-the-bed paranoia. ;)
No.343943
>>343934
Socialism isn't a bad thing, if it's kept in check by Democracy. It's when it's an authoritarian government when it can become a problem.
>>343938
And you're a gateway retard.
No.343945
>>343941
"for the trumpmeister"
No.343946
>>343941
>totes an indefensible argument the trumpmeister.
I'm voting for Trump.
How's that?
No.343949
>>343939
Gotta start somewhere, anon.
And it's not just him, but a good amount of the American populous, as well.
No.343950
>>343943
I wasn't disagreeing there. though I believe that every government has a tendancy towards authoritarianism.
>>343946
not an argument? at all?
No.343951
>>343946
>voting for financial establishment
I'd expect that from someone who's argument is in meme form only.
No.343952
>>343949
Riiiight. They can make it all happen on their own. They don't need congress at all.
No.343953
>>343951
NOT a guy I want to be in charge. Not even a little.
No.343954
>>343931
>You're going to have to highlight something, please.
That was the source of the data. You asked for it.
To be specific I was citing this Oxfam report which references the data I already posted
policy-practice.oxfam.org.uk/publications/an-economy-for-the-1-how-privilege-and-power-in-the-economy-drive-extreme-inequ-592643
The thing is none of this stuff is controversial.
I would forgive some bible belt redneck for not knowing but you have obviously been outside America, how do you not realize that the rest of the world is considerably poorer than the US? It should be blatantly obvious.
> But from what I've heard it does happen in the North. I was sitting next to a Southern woman on the train last week, who went on an epic rant about Northerners & how they just litter(& shit, basically) with no regard for the Earth or social repercussions. They "expect others to clean it up", because it's "not their job". They put the task on the lower castes. But yeah, I haven't seen it in the South. I actually love it here & the countryside is awesome, reminds me of home.
Neat I learned something about India.
No.343956
>>343952
No one said they didn't. If democrats, independents get out & vote, we can have a better chance at changing things.
No.343957
>>343953
why? your racism is threatened?
No.343958
>>343953
nothing but a meme, say something real or be a media drone.
No.343959
>>343956
I'm talking about what happens AFTER the election. Ya know, when Sanders has to deliver on his rainbows and unicorns?
No.343960
>>343930
>because Ed Milliband was more of the same, Blairite/Brownite neolib shit, with retarded campaign decisions. anyone remember that stone block?
Actually Ed was pushing a very similar angle to what Bernie is now with the whole free welfare and huge minimum wages. You know the whole borrow and spend shtick thats the reason we are trillions in debt at the moment.
Obviously he was unelectable because of his awful personality and how he back stabbed his brother.
I remember that stone block though. Haha what a joke.
No.343961
>>343957
AIDS Skrillex, is that you!?!?!
No.343962
>>343954
>The thing is none of this stuff is controversial.
I didn't count it as controversial. As someone who's aware of how money impacts everything(being poor myself, my entire life), it's common knowledge.
>how do you not realize that the rest of the world is considerably poorer than the US? It should be blatantly obvious.
Of course it's obvious. We're working on reforming our country atm, not reforming the world, anon. That comes next, hopefully.. And since the US is one of the richest countries, it's a good place to start.
No.343964
>>343959
>I'm talking about what happens AFTER the election.
So was I.
>human rights = rainbows and unicorns
What backwards mindset you have, anon.
No.343965
>>343960
and the tories aren't exactly helping cut debt either?
>>343956
meh. voting generally doesn't change much of anything radically.
No.343966
>>343964
Math.
Can you do it?
No.343967
>>343965
>meh. voting generally doesn't change much of anything radically.
Yeah, but it's a start. The Republicans/Tea Partiers(who more so represent the plutocracy), have taken over congress & halting everything. Getting nothing done & actually making things worse. The low turnout from Dems is brought up a lot, so hopefully if we change that we can get those fucks out of office.
No.343969
>trumpcucks supporting another "charismatic" tyrant instead of using their guns to fight tyranny
No.343970
>>343967
>it's a start
Everybody says that - every 4 years.
No.343974
>>343970
>trump worshiper saying something that isn't full of shit.
it's a real "shame" that a lot better people have made a similar point over the decades. </eyeroll>
No.343975
>>343970
So it's about time we tried, isn't it? Instead of voting for another Plutocrat or one who represents them.
No.343979
>>343973
That's a funny looking equation.
No.343983
>>343975
such Plutocratic, oligarchic structures are built into the structure of the modern nation state
No.343984
>>343976
He's been saying this shit for decades, guys. Finally he has a chance. We owe it to ourselves to back him.
No.343987
>>343975
I'm more interested in Trump's attitude than his assets. We need someone who can make deals. THAT'S a US president's primary function.
Sanders is a huge pussy and he proved that to the world when he allowed himself to be pushed away from his own podium at his own event.
No world leader or member of congress will ever take that guy seriously.
No.343988
>>343984
>He's been saying this shit for decades, guys. Finally he has a chance. We owe it to ourselves to back him.
That's what I said about Ron Paul.
No.343990
>>343848
>>343958
>Racists
BUZZWORD CITY
No.343991
>>343988
But Paul hasn't backed it up. I was severely disappointed in him. Though him & Sanders have been working on a Fed audit bill for years, now. They make a good team. Vote for Sanders, and he'll be bipartisan as he always has. And he has a great chance of winning the Presidency, now.
No.343994
>>343987
>I'm more interested in Trump's attitude than his assets
That's your fault for having shit priorities, anon. Plus Bernie's got a good "attitude", as in, he can be tough, too. See >>343982
>Sanders is a huge pussy and he proved that to the world when he allowed himself to be pushed away from his own podium at his own event
Again, see >>343982 when someone tries to talk back about bullshit during a town hall meeting.
>No world leader or member of congress will ever take that guy seriously.
Wrong. They've been taking him seriously for decades, as far as working with him. He's the "Amendment king", because he's introduced more legislation than any member of Congress in modern history.
No.343997
>>343990
>Guys, we can't use the word racist anymore because hipsters misuse it
They've almost demolished the word "privileged" though. We need to take that one back.
No.343998
>>343314
>Understanding Trump’s Troll Army
Actual mentally ill retards. Look at neo/pol/, then you know what kind of lot supports him, not for his policies, but for the bullshit he's spouting.
No.343999
>>343991
Paul did everything right. He was a perfect candidate, both times. He's an expert on the economy, wants to stay out of the middle east, served in congress for a hundred years, knows how fucked our monetary system is, actually served in the military, delivered babies, etc.
And still, not even close.
All THIS tells me is Trump is the president America deserves.
No.344001
>>343994
>Bernie's got a good "attitude", as in, he can be tough, too.
No.344006
>>343987
gee, I thought being an aggressive, racist, neo-fascistic egomaniac was generally a bad thing for negotiation, but no, thanks to your enlightening post, I've seen the light. I'm absolutely sure the Trumpenführer is totally the kind of guy who could've defused the cuban missile crisis. Wouldn't have resulted in nuclear war at alllll.
No.344008
>>343999
>Paul did everything right. He was a perfect candidate, both times. He's an expert on the economy, wants to stay out of the middle east, served in congress for a hundred years, knows how fucked our monetary system is, actually served in the military, delivered babies, etc.
I'm one of his constituents. you know nothing of Rand. He's all talk, no action. If anything, he's inaction. He's helped bring our system to a halt, while billionaires reap the benefits & regular citizens suffer.
No.344011
>>344001
He can be tough when need be. You see anon, only beta male fucks think he was weak there. He gave them the rope to hang himself. If he had shut them down, he would've been labeled "misogynist, racist". Honestly, I think those were Hillary plants, tbh. And many black people even think so, too. No one agreed with those chicks.
He handled it professionally, and they were the chumps in the media, afterwards & quickly discredited.
No.344012
>>344011
rope to hang themselves*
No.344013
>>344008
>both times
Did Rand run for president a second time and not tell the rest of us, or are you just really bad at reading?
No.344014
>>344006
>Trumpenführer is totally the kind of guy who could've defused the cuban missile crisis
Trump didn't become a multi billionaire by blowing people up. Think about that.
No.344015
>>344013
Wrong anon, I was quoting them.
No.344017
>>344008
Fuck Rand. I'm talking about Ron Paul.
No.344018
>>344015
I know you were quoting them. I'm pointing out that you're talking about Rand when that anon was talking about Ron.
No.344019
>>344014
nope, he just became a multi billionaire by fucking people over and inherited wealth. and most of his assets are in property…
No.344020
>>344017
>>344018
I thought you were referencing the same Paul as earlier in the thread. And anyway, Ron is his father, so birds of a feather, anon. They have basically the same beliefs.
No.344021
>>344019
Hey, that's the American system for ya. Trump didn't do anything illegal, did he?
No.344023
>>344014
>Trump didn't become a multi billionaire by blowing people up.
Just because hasn't had the chance to. He's already advocated for killing innocent family members of suspected terrorists.
>>344019
This.
No.344024
>>344020
I might have mentioned Rand way back, but Ron Paul is the fuckin' man but those in control marginalized him into non-existence.
They can't do that with Trump. He's too loud, and cucked by nobody.
No.344025
>>344021
He's corrupted & morally bankrupt. But hey, it's ok because so is our system. Which is why he'd do well there in continuing the status quo.
No.344026
>>344021
what do you think he'd do with "I'm willing to fuck people over for my own gain" attitude and nuclear war?
No.344027
No.344028
>>344024
>They can't do that with Trump.
Because he is the establishment.
Why fight against someone pursuing your same interests?
No.344031
>>343759
No, he's just a newfag from reddit.
No.344033
>>344025
the status quo on a couple of hundred lines of bolivian marching powder, but yeah…
No.344037
>>344028
kek
That's why everyone and their brother are plotting to degrade Trump's standing as a candidate. Make no mistake, once Trump becomes the nominee, they're going to drop the hammer.
No.344042
>>344037
but it's like Goldstein in 1984
controlled "opposition"
No.344046
>>344037
Some financial establishment have slightly different interests, but the same end goal.
> Make no mistake, once Trump becomes the nominee, they're going to drop the hammer.
This election has been the most entertaining I've ever witnessed.. It's getting better each day. :)
No.344047
>>344026
You are completely deluded if you think any westerner would seriously consider using nukes.
No.344052
test
Fix your shit, hotwheels
No.344053
>>344047
this is Trump we're talking about here. at the very least, he'd fuck up negotiations, and the USSR suddenly has nukes pointed at the US…
No.344054
>>344042
Except that Trump is a total wild card. Nobody, including Trump, expected his current level of support. Christie stands there with Trump at the podium looking like he's not sure if he should run or not.
No.344055
>>344047
In nuclear war, standards are different.
Also
>what is Japan
No.344059
>>344011
>black people voting for Bernie
I like the metaphor though. Bernie gives free rope to BLM so they can lynch themselves.
You said it first:)
>>343918
>Lmao, and that second Youtube video cuts out the rest of his answer. Typical uninformed public.
Now you know what Trump supporters experience a dozen times a day.
No.344063
>>344055
Japan was what, 70 fucking years ago?
Even all that's taken place in Iraq and Afghanistan, still - no nukes.
No.344070
>>344063
>comparing Iraq & Afghanistan's military to 1940s Japan
Even if it was 70 years ago, you're the one who said Americans wouldn't consider it. It may seem like a long time, but not much has changed in behaviors. 70 years in nothing in a historical perspective.
And I'm sure many Trump supporters would agree to nuke somewhere, even if they couldn't find it on the map. :^)
No.344074
>>344059
>black people voting for Bernie
They definitely exist.
>Now you know what Trump supporters experience a dozen times a day.
You can't even compare airtime of Sanders to Trump. Trump gets 24/7 coverage. Sanders poses the most threat, so he get little airtime. And when they do allow it to him, they try to discredit him, but he always comes up roses.
Most Trump quotes are bad enough even with context, anon. Let's be serious.
No.344076
>>344063
because in Iraq, oil removes the ability to extract oil, and Afghanistan, nukes tend not to be useful against highly distributed groups…
No.344078
>>344070
There was a hilarious poll given to Trump supporters(or just republicans overall, I can't remember), where they voted highly to bomb "Aghrabah" - Which they didn't realize was the fake city from Disney's Aladdin. You can't make this shit up.
No.344088
>>344074
The exception is not the rule.
You're delusional if you think an appreciable number of blacks care about Bernie.
I didn't compare airtime. I was pointing out the media's proclivity for misrepresenting their positions by misquoting them and sometimes even manufacturing fake quotes to fit their narrative.
12+ media hit pieces a day = the elites obviously don't consider him a threat to their hegemony
1 media hit piece a day = the elites fear him the most
>Trump quotes are bad in context
>no examples
>be serious
>OK
No.344091
>>344078
I'd say that sound ridiculous, but it doesn't.
No.344094
>>343908
>he gladly takes money from the citizens, as well
[citation needed]
No.344095
>>344088
>The exception is not the rule.
Regarding what? It's a fact he has black support as well. The only black support Hillary gets is from uneducated voters in the south, and that has nothing to do with race, as well all know.
Sanders does pose the most threat. The infighting in your own party is because each thinks they have the best plan to keep the status quo, not that he won't continue it.
Sanders has to fight tooth & nail to get airtime. At least Trump gets way more of an amount of favorable pieces. That's indisputable. He gets more coverage, overall. And as we know, any publicity, even bad publicity is good publicity. At least many know about Trump & his plans.
>Needs a bad Trump quote in context
>Where to begin?
>see vid/text related
All in context. Many lies - most Mexican immigrants are hard workers coming here for work. He uses scare tactics. Illegal immigration is a bit of a problem, but no need to complicate it with lies. Bush & Obama broke records on their deportation rates(of which Obama was the strongest on).
>"We have no competence or protection"
Be have border security, and deportations have more than doubled since 2007.
No.344096
No.344102
>>344092
k, trolltard, don't stop being fucking blind anyone soon.
No.344103
>>344097
>>344098
>Still posting butthurt images
>Still no argument
No.344107
>>344103
>no argument
aka the argument of 56% of Trump supporters
No.344113
time to try and ressurrect this ded thread
——————————————————–
quite frankly, I'm surprised that Trump doesn't kill any intelligent life form that comes within 10m of him, given how fucking stupid he is.
No.344114
>>344107
Now I just feel bad for them(honestly). If they weren't such assholes, they could avoid this.
No.344116
>>344114
but sadly, they are such assholes.
No.344119
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>>344113
>fucking stupid he is.
No.344127
>>344117
>posting a sexy looking image
troll fail.
>344113
prove his IQ, man
No.344140
>>344135
1. bullshit social network.
2. conspiracy site, which the Washington Post called "unhinged.
3. some forum
no legit sites.
none mention the type of IQ test used.
No.344146
also, IQ is an inaccurate measure of intelligence.
No.344148
>>344096
>many lies
>scare tactics
The source misquotes him anyway and intentionally misrepresents his meaning.
I'll explain it to you: Trump says that the border guards and related people he spoke to told him that the Mexican government was dumping its problem people at the border and sending them to the USA. Trump wasn't referring to immigrants, Mexicans, or Mexican immigrants generally.
Gullible plebs often tell me that THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE OF TRUMP BEING HITLER FOR ME TO POINT AT ANY ONE THING :P
>>344135
Trump has so many sources he posts them all with a smug face.
>>344135
Congrats on using an appeal to authority and genetic fallacy in the same source.
No.344153
>>344148
Lmao. It didn't misquote him, whatsoever. It was a transcript, word for word of what he said, along with the video, to follow along. You being in denial won't change that.
>That image
Your understanding of socialism, especially Democratic socialism is painful.
No.344155
>>344148
>>344153
So, the jew steals all your shekels through shady business dealings, but it's illegitimate to take that money back to provide for public goods or to protect the broken, homeless and lonely victims of kikesharkitude.
Makes perfect sense…
No.344157
No.344158
>>344148
>stuff about mexican immigrants being sold
so, even if that is actually true (which I doubt)? that should be solved diplomatically, not by some retarded wall building.
plus, given the fact that more Mexicans are trying to leave the US than enter…
No.344165
>>344155
I'm not sure why you included me >>344153
in your post. Just because he's a Jew doesn't mean he's connected to all other Jews, especially financially.
Or were you playing devil's advocate with the other poster?
No.344172
>>343314
>labeling yourself as an "epic troll"
>being proud of this
>i don't need any facts, just le smug face
his cultish following is a slave to trends, they never have any facts or even any arguments, they just scream slogans and rhetoric pulled straight form the normalfag news stations.
No.344176
No.344177
>>344172
makes me think of certain sc-fi-ish books
No.344178
>>344172
We like Trump. Presidents get elected more because voters like them than anything else.
Obama got 95% of the black vote, and nobody is gonna tell me those voters had ANY "facts or even any arguments" to support their choice.
Most people who won't vote for Hillary will not do so because they just don't like her.
I gave Sanders $100 last summer because I agree with most of his platform, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he'd never be able to institute even one half of his pipe dreams that include free college and free health care.
The president can tax however they want but they can't control what CEO's and the like charge for goods and services. There is NO WAY when faced with higher taxes, people (as-in the human beings being taxed) are gonna not immediately think of and come up with ways to offset their losses - which WILL effect the regular people in the form of higher prices for goods and services.
No.344181
>>344153
>replacing their with they're
>not misrepresenting him
>Implying that funny image is my understanding of socialism
If you can deal with the asspain for a while longer, why don't you educate me? What is democratic socialism?
>>344158
>stuff about mexican immigrants being sold
Where was this written?
Also, the wall is only one part of Trump's plan for border control. What you've committed is strawman, nirvana fallacy, and you tossed in a red herring for good measure. Congratulations on having top tier mental gymnastics.
>>344140
This is the tool who combined appeal to authority and genetic fallacy.
Accidentally targeted the wrong guy in my last post.
No.344184
>>344178
>can't control what CEO's and the like charge for goods and services.
um no.
while price controls aren't exactly viewed in a positive light, saying that they're impossible is complete bullshit.
>>344181
>re sale of mexicans
misinterpreted the dumping of mexicans bit.
still, more mexicans are trying to leave than enter.
No.344186
>>344178
>Being proud of being uninformed
>especially economically
>but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he'd never be able to institute even one half of his pipe dreams that include free college and free health care.
There's not much anyone knows beyond a shadow of a doubt, anon. And it's not like when Sanders becomes President he can suddenly right all of the wrongs. He's going to try to even the playing field. Do you want someone fighting for us on a larger level than Senator?
Even if he gets 1/3 of his plans approved, the US will be much better for it.
>The president can tax however they want
It's Congress who does this.
CEO's & business leaders can charge whatever they want. But if they want to be profitable in the community, they have to go with the market. This is still capitalism, if they run their business shoddily, they will pay the price for that. If they raise their prices & the people can't afford it, they'll lose business, obviously.
No.344188
>>344181
addendum to >344184
Sanders is a social democrat
NOT a democratic socialist
social democracy began as a implemenation
of socialism via the party political process
then the various groups became watered down
democratic socialism is when a socialist economy is controlled by the democratic process.
No.344190
>>344184
More mexicans trying to leave than there are trying to enter doesn't mean we shouldn't control the border.
>>344188
So if a social democrat is trying to implement socialism through the party political process, what does this mean?
What would this socialism look like?
No.344194
>>344181
>their with they're
Trump was speaking in bad grammar, so it could go either way. Only Trump knows which word he meant. Even if you replace it with "their", it's still an asinine thing to say.
>What is democratic socialism?
>>344188 This anon explained it for me. Also, a simple Google search will get you this:
>Democratic socialism is a political system wherein there is democratic control of a socialist economic system. It thus combines political democracy with social ownership of significant elements of the means of production.
For example, our roads, pipes, basic publicly funded infrastructures like this are done using socialism. Also, the police depts., fire depts., etc.
Look into FDR. He was very likely our most popular president, elected to four terms because he did such a good job. He rebuilt America. They call what he did "The New Deal", and it was socialism in a Democracy. People are calling Sanders a "new dealer" because he's advocating & wants the same thing. We're overdue for it in America. We received a D- in infrastructure safety 10 years ago. I can only imagine it's at an F- now. People are being poisoned by their own water, bridges are crumbling & killing motorists(You might be too young to remember the Minneapolis bridge collapse incident, look it up, there's video, too) - In America, ffs. We have the ability to be better than this.
No.344195
No.344200
>>344193
nice 'shop
>>344196
meme images.
totes a good explanation.
No.344202
>>344190
I'm really jealous of that braid. But to the point
>More mexicans trying to leave than there are trying to enter doesn't mean we shouldn't control the border.
You do know that we have much more pressing issues than illegal immigration, right? Expand your horizons. Our country is literally falling apart, with infrastructure, plutocracy, etc. We can't even begin to address illegal immigration better until we fix these problems.
>So if a social democrat is trying to implement socialism through the party political process, what does this mean?
Jesus, it means he's a socialist Democrat, working within a Democracy with socialist policies.
>What would this socialism look like?
Are you American? Do you know who FDR is? His policies saved the US. And we are what we are today because of them.
No.344207
>>344202
>>344190
>So if a social democrat is trying to implement socialism through the party political process, what does this mean?
To clarify, it means whatever he's trying to do will be put to a Democratic vote.
No.344210
>mass confusion over social democray
search engines (or wikipeadia) are you friends, here.
No.344235
>>344224
Lmao, honestly I'm a little scared for him. I was just thinking about this earlier. That some crazy fuck might do something.
I can't remember the last time we had a presidential candidate so hated. A lot of people don't like Obama, but it wasn't like that until after he was nominated. We got started early on this one.
No.344249
>>344234
>someone might do something
eh. I guess my opinion would depend on if it resulted in Trump's surrounding neo-fascist movement dispurses, stays around but doesn't get any worse, or sustains far past his death because of it.
No.344283
No.344300
No.344303
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
No further explanation need be given.
None of the others will do it. That's all you need to know this November.
Trump will build the wall. All the rest are the same:
No.344305
>>344303
>more trump walll building bullshit
if he does, he'll render the US bankrupt.
No.344318
>>344305
reasons why he will render US bankrupt:
if he gets the US to build it with their money
it'll probably cost enough to fuck up the US seriously
if he tries to get Mexico to build it with their money
and doesn't have any means of making them pay up or build it
not gonna happen
same if he tries to get the US to build it with Mexico's money
if he tries to do that and threatens war, then carries it out
the US is involved in a war, which is probably going to be long and drawn out,
and probably not score him many fans amonge people who don't want yet another
war
the possibility of getting Mexico to build it with the US's money
no fucking way on either side.
No.344320
>>344305
reasons why he will render US bankrupt:
if he gets the US to build it with their money
it'll probably cost enough to fuck up the US seriously
if he tries to get Mexico to build it with their money
and doesn't have any means of making them pay up or build it
not gonna happen
same if he tries to get the US to build it with Mexico's money
if he tries to do that and threatens war, then carries it out
the US is involved in a war, which is probably going to be long and drawn out,
and probably not score him many fans amonge people who don't want yet another
war
the possibility of getting Mexico to build it with the US's money
no fucking way on either side.
No.344323
>>344318
>Am American
>completely agree
There's no feasible way it'd happen. And it's insulting to Mexico to expect to force them to do it. I mean, who thinks like that?
And they call Sanders' plans outlandish.
No.344324
>>344194
What did his policies save the US from?
>what is executive order 9066?
FDR is also responsible for the Glass-Steagall act. Its passage further consolidated power into the hands of the international central banking cartel. Woodrow Wilson was the first to sell out the American people but FDR did it again.
While it was good that he invested money in infrastructure projects, it's hard to square that with what he did to future generations of Americans by putting them in debt which can never be paid off due to the nature of the banking system.
Sanders betrayed Ron Paul and the American people when he had a chance to investigate the Federal Reserve. Bernie Sanders folded under pressure from the central bankers.
http://www.ronpaul.com/audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207/
Trump wants to audit the Fed, as well. I'd rather give Trump a first chance than give Sanders a second chance.
>>344320
>>344305
The wall will cost 10 billion dollars.
Here's how that's broken down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSo0QQLUfE
Even if you only count the cost of free tax credits paid to illegal immigrants at 4.2 billion a year, the wall pays for itself in less than three years.
Here's how Trump plans to get the money from Mexico (from his website): Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options].
No.344326
>>344320
And fyi, if you get an error message that it took too long to submit post, ctrl+c your message, post "test" instead. It usually always goes through, and if your original message did actually go through, it will show up with the "test" post. If it didn't you can paste it & try again, usually the "test" post will have corrected the error/woken up the thread.
Or you can just try to immediately try posting it again, and if it says "flood detected" that means it went through. :)
It's really not as complicated as I just made it sound, lol. Just some easy tricks for lagging site.
No.344340
>>344324
>saying Glass Steagall was a bad thing
You're serious? It took power away from the banks.
"The Glass-Steagall Act, also known as the Banking Act of 1933 (48 Stat. 162), was passed by Congress in 1933 and prohibits commercial banks from engaging in the investment business. It was enacted as an emergency response to the failure of nearly 5,000 banks during the Great Depression."
>Sanders betrayed Ron Paul and the American people when he had a chance to investigate the Federal Reserve. Bernie Sanders folded under pressure from the central bankers.
>Bernie Sanders betrayed Ron Paul and the American people
That's a goddamn lie & an incredible statement. Sanders worked with him closely & for years to craft the bill. They both cared a lot for it & did good with it.
>"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced an amendment on the floor effectively adding the Grayson-Paul language to the Senate bill, but later changed his amendment under pressure by the Federal Reserve and the Obama administration. The altered Sanders amendment passed the Senate on May 11, 2010 by a unanimous 96-0 vote."
He understands compromise is necessary. "Altered" is code for compromise. And the amendment passed! One step at a time, anon. Suggesting Bernie is corrupt is insulting & a downright lie. The amendment wouldn't have had a chance without compromise.
>Upset that Bernie gets things done & is bipartisan
>Trump wants to audit the Fed, as well. I'd rather give Trump a first chance than give Sanders a second chance.
I'm really sick of this attitude. You can go fuck yourself. Trump is part of the Plutocracy. Assuming he's ever in his life going to fight for these reforms is asinine. Trump benefits from the status quo. It's the Tea Party all over again. They complain about the corruption that they contribute to. It's underhanded & they should be ashamed. The Tea Party was a clever movement funded by the Koch Brothers. I was young & bought into it - until I saw the FOX News Tea Party bus tour. Give me a break. I knew right then it was a corporate movement.
Bernie has been fighting for us for decades. You're using the same tired conservative talking points. Get some new material. Trump is the financial establishment. Bernie is clearly against it.
No.344346
>>344340
>Trump benefits from the status quo.
There you go again…
No.344351
>>344346
And there you go again, with memes & no argument, faggot.
No.344360
>>343522
>You can't do business without allying yourself with the Jews!
But that's true, you don't want Janet Yellen pulling out the rug do you?
No.344364
>>344340
It was as much a bill to take power away from the banks as Austalian gun confiscation was for taking the guns from the criminals.
When you take power from many banks and consolidate it into a few, you're not fighting all the banks, you're fighting specific banks which are independent of your new monopoly.
I never suggested Bernie is corrupt - only that he doesn't have the balls to do what needs to be done.
You're using the same tired progressive talking points. Get some new material.
No.344377
Why is this thread full of such leftist dumbasses? And why are leftists so incapable of comprehending a problem statement, or a topic, etc.?
Ridiculous.
The title of the thread is:
>Understanding Trump's Troll Army
And what specifically concerning the "troll army?"
>explanations for his success
This I explain so simply:
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
That is the reason for his success. Nobody else will succeed. God favors him. Do you suppose any frail witchy formulations of the diabolical and hateful have any lasting hope? They are but chaff.
No.344381
>>344364
>It was as much a bill to take power away from the banks as Austalian gun confiscation was for taking the guns from the criminals.
Your understanding of Glass Steagall is extremely flawed:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/banking/glass-steagall-act-explained/
>"The Glass-Steagall Act is actually a set of provisions included in the broader Banking Act of 1933, a response to the bank failures of the Great Depression. The Banking Act created the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to safeguard consumers’ deposits at commercial banks and included the Glass-Steagall provisions to reduce the risk of providing such insurance."
>"Glass-Steagall attempted to keep commercial banks low-risk to make it safer for the government to back those banks with deposit insurance, which would, in turn, prevent another Great Depression."
>I never suggested Bernie is corrupt
That's exactly what you are doing, don't backpeddle. He has more than enough "balls" to take on what he needs to. He's been doing it for 30+years. Trump cannot ever compete with that history & experience.
No.344384
>>344364
And seriously, that's your reply? It's extremely lazy.
No.344386
>>344377
Lmao. Solid logic, anon.
No.344390
>>344381
I'll finish reading the article by
>Goldstein
tomorrow.
Good night Berniebro.
No.344391
>>344390
Sure, why not. I need to sleep soon, too.
And remember, it's Bernie-sis.
No.344398
>>344351
I don't need an "argument."
I've said all I need to say about Mr. Cucked-By-The-Masses. Stay mad, anon.
No.344405
>>344398
Lol, go to sleep, anon. ;)
No.344433
>>344386
I haven't used logic to back it up. I haven't used statistics to back it up. I am bringing us back to the topic.
Others offer other explanations, I offer one.
Mine is the conclusion, offered at the outset. I do not believe it should be a conclusion, really, but should be a premise, however, for a further discussion.
So, do you oppose it? Or not? I cannot tell from what you said. Perhaps your slang styling means something in hiphop camp - I know not.
>>344405
FUCK OFF LOW EFFORT POSTER
No.344440
>>344433
I'm not seriously engaging a crazy poster right before I sleep.
Slang? Lmao? Solid logic isn't slang it just means - Solid logic.
Go fuck yourself. I'm getting some sleep.
>Mine is the conclusion, offered at the outset. I do not believe it should be a conclusion, really, but should be a premise, however, for a further discussion.
>I know not
>pic related
What a fag ;)
>FUCK OFF LOW EFFORT POSTER
I've been posting all day in this thread, dick. Feel free to make an argument in the meantime, on how this wall would solve our problems. I'll destroy your argument when I wake up. Trumpfags always got nothin. :^)
No.344448
>>344440
FUCK OFF, LOW EFFORT POSTER
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR EMOTICONS
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR MONSTROUS OVERTONES
FUCK OFF WITH ALL YOUR SHALLOW AND MEANINGLESS AND NON-TOPICAL CRAP
Fuck off because you have nothing to say - you preserve in no way the topic, or content, or anything for that matter at all of any interest.
OUT OUT SATANIST CRAP
OUT OUT SATANIST
OUT OUT
OUT
No.344449
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
Why his popularity?
Why his staying power?
Why his global appeal?
TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
Nobody denies it - everybody knows. This is the reason why he soars over his foes.
No.344452
>>344448
Lmao.. so mad tbh fam
;) :* :P
No.344467
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>>344440
>Trumpfags always got nothin.
We have Trump. That's all we need.
No.344599
>>344433
>I haven't used statistics/logic to back it up
there's your problem. you're spouting bullshit rhetoric for no reasons.
>>344448
>complains about shallow and meaningles
>while posting useless, shallow, meaningless
>bullshit rhetoric for trump.
No.344625
>>344467
>We have Trump. That's all we need.
you need him to suck off your small dicks and make you feel good.
No.344697
>>343314
>meme president
>troll army
they really want to pretend he isnt real
thats all…
No.344917
>>343464
trump has this entire region though
i could just as easily argue that most Trump supporters masturbate to lesbians and i would be closer to the truth than the three trump supporting states that fap to animu
No.345403
>>344599
>meaningless
Contrarily! It is but this: a matter for consideration.
Yet I see no livid minds.
Where go they, intellectual souls? Are they sure Heaven and here us abandon?
Where have the gone, and left me alone… where, where, oh where?
>>344917
This is why everyone hates lefties. They all worship Satan, and they all are liars, and murderers, etc.
They are always 100% wrong about everything!
No.345858
THE REASON IS TRUMP WILL BUILD THE WALL
BERNIE-HILIARY=CRUZ=RUBIO=KASICH=JOHNSON
>none will build the wall
THE WHY IS THE WALL, NOTHING ELSE