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 No.346059

Perturbed by smuggling, the two states had demanded an end to their neighbor's licensing and regulation of marijuana merchants.

https://archive.is/YVbmZ

>Today the Supreme Court declined to hear Oklahoma and Nebraska's challenge to marijuana legalization in neighboring Colorado, which they say harms them through interstate smuggling. They argued that legalization in Colorado had "a direct and significant detrimental impact" on them by forcing "the diversion of limited manpower and resources to arrest and process suspected and convicted felons involved in the increased illegal marijuana trafficking or transportation." The Obama administration had urged the Court to reject Oklahoma and Nebraska's petition, saying their beef did not amount to a bona fide interstate controversy, since it grew out of lawbreaking that was neither directed nor approved by Colorado.

>Oklahoma and Nebraska argued that Colorado's licensing, regulation, and taxation of marijuana growers and distributors violates the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) and therefore the Supremacy Clause, which makes federal statutes "the supreme law of the land." Colorado argued that it is acting well within the leeway that states enjoy under the Constitution and that its tolerance of heretofore criminal behavior does not create a "positive conflict" with federal law, as required for pre-emption under the CSA.

>Justice Clarence Thomas, joined by Samuel Alito, dissented from the Court's decision not to hear the lawsuit. "The complaint, on its face, presents a 'controvers[y] between two or more States' that this Court alone has authority to adjudicate," he writes. "The plaintiff States have alleged significant harms to their sovereign interests caused by another State. Whatever the merit of the plaintiff States' claims, we should let this complaint proceed further rather than denying leave without so much as a word of explanation."

>Marijuana Majority's Tom Angell welcomed the Court's decision, saying it avoids what could have been "a dark shadow on the marijuana ballot measures voters will consider this November" by allowing states to "move forward with implementing voter-approved legalization laws even if their neighbors don't like it." He adds that "if officials in Nebraska and Oklahoma are upset about how much time and resources their police are spending on marijuana cases, as they said in their briefs, they should join Colorado in replacing prohibition with legalization."

 No.346087

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>>346059

>"if officials in Nebraska and Oklahoma are upset about how much time and resources their police are spending on marijuana cases, as they said in their briefs, they should join Colorado in replacing prohibition with legalization."

word.


 No.346091

>>346059

Why are people that smoke pot always smiling like they're happy?


 No.346094

>>346091

Because DUUUDE WEED LAMO

On a more serious note, I bet if New York sued nearby pro-gun states over supposed rampant gun smuggling into NY, the administration would be calling SCotUS like a broken record, asking if they've reviewed the case yet.


 No.346102

And if course that fuck Alito is supporting bringing it to case.

The fucked always sides with the bigger fish no matter what the case, then throws a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way.


 No.346109

I was wondering when states would start fighting each other out in the open but I never expected it to be about something like this.

Its extremely simple to understand, Oklahoma and Nebraska's laws are outdated and they have absolutely no right to demand that Colorado recognize their draconian lockdown. Colorado's word is law in Colorado and nowhere else. The other two need to understand the same goes for them.

Tl;dr: OP is making nothing out of less than nothing.


 No.346111

Isn't marijuana illegal under federal law? how can states legalize it then?

>>346109

Assuming what I said above isn't true the federal; government can probably regulate it on the ground that it is interstate commerce.


 No.346118

>>346111

Federal law and state law are two different things.

Its a shaky ship right now really, because for all intents and purposes it is completely illegal on the federal level. The FBI could swoop in and shut down every operation but they have chosen not to. Not because of a conspiracy or anything, simply because the people have spoken in many states and said thats what they want, and having black vans suddenly roll into your town and take the local dispensary at gunpoint would cause issues.

The only thing the feds need to regulate is when states like Nebraska and Oklahoma pull this shit. Its like if Nebraska all of a sudden made a law tomorrow where it was illegal to wear yellow. Then they go to court and say "Oklahoma is letting yellow shirted people over our borders, handle it daddy Obama!" The government has neither the responsibility nor want to deal with petty moral issues.


 No.346121


 No.346122

>>346109

It *should* be less than nothing, but leftists have reinterpreted the interstate commerce clause to mean that the federal government has authority over everything in any way remotely related to states or commerce. The only reason the Obama administration was on this side of the argument was that it unpopular with the Dems voters, and this is an election year.


 No.346131

>shitting on state sovereignty

>over dude weed lmao

Kill yourselves.


 No.346141

>>346118

I feel like this should tell the federal government they need to get rid of the federal ban on marijuana and let the states officially decide instead of this murky law they have now.


 No.346148

I don't know why so many lawmakers make a huge deal out of weed anyway. Aside from fuel injecting the "war" on drugs, opposing the regulated sale of a relatively mild substance conclusively does more harm than good.

Prohibition was a shitty idea when they did it 90 years ago, and it's still shit now.


 No.346180

>>346131

>states have the right to force other states to ban things by means of the Federal governmetn


 No.347063

>>346091

Because smoking pot makes you happy.


 No.347077

>>346094

I seriously doubt it. A better analogy doesn't exist any more, the last thing I can think of that is not a constitutional right is runaway slave laws. No state can compel another to enforce its own conflicting laws - that's the purview of the federal government.

Your example doesn't work because people don't need to smuggle a gun into NY, believe it not you can purchase a gun inside the state quite easily.


 No.347162

>>347077

I don't think the run away slave one quite works either though. I lost my reasons for why while typing this though so

CRABS IN INDIA POO IN THE LOO


 No.347212

>>346094

Those shitlord Vermonters are bringing violence to NY with their unrestrictive gun laws and theri violent racist radical conservative candidate.


 No.347236

>>347212

>tfw that's actually Hillary's campaign platform


 No.347241

>>347236

I thought her and Bernie were just trying for different shades of CURRENT YEAR, but she has dubious respectability and superdelegates.


 No.347367

it really is stunning to see the amount of people who don't understand why laws are structured in the US. right now, the only thing protecting the small marijuana business owner from being annihilated by an international corporate giant, is the federal law. and the only thing protecting individual consumers of marijuana, is small business. as it is, the dea & other special agencies have some fairly accurate guesses for how lucrative the marijuana industry is as mere psychoactive ingredient. now the numbers are growing larger as the textile and "medical" benefits become clearer. once those numbers become more concrete, federal prohibition will subside and more restrictive laws will take effect to benefit these multi-national corporations.

the very best thing the states can do, is completely un-regulate the industry for the benefit of the people. but as you can see, it is very different from that.


 No.347511

>>347241

Their platforms are very different. Clinton is more right-wing than Trump on many issues, while Sanders is an actual I can't believe they still exist socialist.


 No.347520

>>347077

Yeah, but if that gun has a pistol grip or a threaded barrel, no force on Earth and beyond can protect you from that progressive liberal shitstorm.


 No.347557

>>346111

>Assuming what I said above isn't true the federal; government can probably regulate it on the ground that it is interstate commerce.

That is precisely how federal prohibition was ruled constitutional, despite it VERY FUCKING OBVIOUSLY not being federal jurisdiction per the Constitution.


 No.347574

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>>346087

Reminder that legalization of weed will drive the cartels out of business.

And fuck those guys, seriously.

dude, weed, lmao is the secret to world peace.


 No.347592

>>347557

"Interstate commerce" is how the Feds have justified any number of unconstitutional laws and regulations.


 No.347606

Nebraskafag here: I fucking hate this backwards state.


 No.347619

>>346111

9th ammendment motherfucker!

The constitution doesn't grant the federal government power to regulate drugs, therfore states have full control over drug policy.

Woooooooo!


 No.347656

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>>347619

>The constitution doesn't grant the federal government power to regulate drugs

Then how the fuck does the FDA exist?


 No.347671

>>347656

It's complete bullshit and unconstitutional but they give it a veneer of legacy by pretending that they're allowed to regulate the transport between states and that that somehow gives them the authority to interfere within states.


 No.347673

>>347656

The same way the IRS exists.

America never recovered from the New Deal propaganda.


 No.347683

>>347671

To be fair one of the many things that were being sold as cure-all medicines was mercury elixirs before the FDA was given the power to snuff that kind of thing out. Sure, on the plus side we got Coca Cola out of the deal but a lot of dumb people died nasty deaths.


 No.347691

>>347683

Instead the dumb fucks who should have died from drinking mercury elixers reproduced like rabbits, took over your nation's electoral system, and are allowing totalitarian dictators to come into power under the guise of "democracy."

I think the mercury energy drinks were a better tradeoff.


 No.347699

Idioacracy isnt just a movie…. its the future




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