1b21a3 No.1265[Last 50 Posts]
We need to figure out a list of things that we will have to manufacture ourselves in glorious new Namibian homeland.
Since I happen to know that Namibia has a CRAZY tariff on imported vehicles, I suggest we start with manufacturing those.
We could start manufacturing something like pic related, since there is so much sand and so little roads in Namibia.
It is called the Ripsaw. We just need to design and fabricate an African version for getting around the Bush and distribute them to fellow Pioneers.
1b21a3 No.1271
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RIPSAW VID RELATED
1b21a3 No.1276
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. The idea I have is to make a 'family truck' version of the RIPSAW that holds 4 people plus a decent amount of cargo, like a truck.
b6536b No.1280
Check it out, this was in one of the threads
http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page b6536b No.1291
>>1265Also
>yfw nogs see the white man rolling out in these things ac0493 No.1331
>>1265Little bit of Armour-plating and a mounted machine gun.
Fucking epic.
ef5a7f No.1340
>>1331That would be fucking epic
92c1a0 No.1348
>>1265Weapons. We need to adopt the Prussian ideas of efficiency and industriousness, as well as a love for science and engineering. We design the most advanced weapons (saving the best for ourselves) and make them of the highest quality to the point it becomes a trait associated with us (like German engineering mixed with American industrial ability). The war business will be booming here shortly, so why not have the all the bullets and the bandages. I'm sure the Ukrainians would love some shiny new guns.
6b05b5 No.1349
>>1265How much do you think it would cost to make one of these things?
92c1a0 No.1355
>>1349between the metal and the computers, probably 10,000 US dollars.
ac0493 No.1356
>>1265Fuck, this actually creates an automotive industry in Africa too, mfw we sell them to warlords to wage wars in our interest.
b6536b No.1358
>>1348
>UkrainiansNo need, they are already being funded by the Jews
No need to anger Russia
ac0493 No.1360
mfw I had no face.
92c1a0 No.1367
>>1356I think if we started an electric car company in the form of Ford (cheap, for everyone) it would be something the whole world would want. I actually have a design, it would be cheap and very efficient.
>>1358You could help the separatist, is what I mean. Then Putin gives us a shit load of money and oil for our service to Russia.
1b21a3 No.1375
>>1349In raw materials, if we fabricate and machine everything ourselves from raw steel?
About $1000 USD. Plus time, energy, etc I reckon we could start making something like these badboys for a few grand each and actually make it real profitable at $10 - $15 k each, but as I said in earlier posts, I'm thinking 'family vehicle' not 'tank'.
f1ca73 No.1376
>>1356>/pol/ establishes a settlement and independent civilizarion>exclusively supplies itself and /k/ with the best arms and armored vehicles in Africa.>/k/ becomes the best outfitted and most sought after merc group in Africa>8chan runs a protection racket on the majorty of the continent 1b21a3 No.1383
>>1367Why not make a new breed of vehicles, a sedan-style tracked ripsaw-like electric vehicle??
THE FUTURE IS OURS TO FORGE
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92c1a0 No.1386
>>1383kek, that would be awesome. Still, I like the idea of making something the WHOLE WORLD would pay for. The west would leave us alone then.
1b21a3 No.1389
I'm thinking about making many permutations this kind of tracked vehicle, all really useful in Namibia.
If we figure out how to charge them from solar power we go next level.
1b21a3 No.1390
Who wouldn't want a rad dune buggy/ atv tracked vehicle that is affordable?
Everyone except for city dwellers and fuck them anyway.
92c1a0 No.1391
>>1389I am thinking we could also have Stirling engines that could also be powered buy solar power. It could also work.
92c1a0 No.1394
d77029 No.1395
>>1390>soccer moms not demanding a tracked ATV from their rich husbands to pick up the kids from school.look at all the Four wheel drives those ignorant tarts drive around in.
1c0b89 No.1398
To start out with we could buy fairly cheap military vehicles like trucks and jeeps. They'd be good on the flatter surfaces and we may have to dig and construct roads for the hilly parts.
We can work on these newfangled contraptions at a later point.
1b21a3 No.1424
>>1398>not showing the world from day one the creativity, innovation and industriousness of crazy white boys who make their own destinies 1c0b89 No.1425
>>1424eeh you raise a good point
1b21a3 No.1521
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We'll make one of these for Hotwheels when he comes to hang out with us in Namibia.
>we mad max nao
1b21a3 No.2158
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1b21a3 No.2165
>>2159
I have a technical/manufacturing background as well.
1b21a3 No.2233
>>2224
I think that a more important line of thought is the infrastructure and tooling required to make Namibiamobiles from scratch.
I'm not an engineer, but I was involved in the innovation of several manufacturing processes.
We need steel, obviously.
Maybe we could start running something like Ripsaw pickup trucks on bio diesel.
You can buy small diesel engines from Mercedes Benz and convert them to run off oil.
Another industry that should be started right away are coconuts.
We can use the fibers for a hydroponic substrate and the oil to run Namib-mobiles.
1b21a3 No.2398
>>2224
Since the Chinese are making their presence known in Africa, we can probably get steel from them at first, before we set up our own foundries.
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1b21a3 No.2427
A new idea:
What does Namibia have LOTS of??
SAND
What global commodity can you make from sand?
GLASS
If we can invent efficient solar kilns we can vitrify all the glass the sun can make….
We can also experiment with firing kilns with hydrogen derived from the electrolysis of seawater….
1b21a3 No.2429
>>2425Hey what's up Hank III?
1b21a3 No.2432
>>2427Another use of a solar kiln:
We can make a new form of large scale prefabricated blocks for construction by combining recycled HDPE with the native sand.
We could get the HDPE from the West. Or the Chinese. Or other Africans.
HDPE melts at 350 degrees f. so we could just make huge molds and mix granulated hdpe with a sand mixture, then melt that shit into walls using concentrated Namibian sunlight.
Shit would last for a million years.
d59fc9 No.2479
36977d No.2592
>>1521>muh brittle bones tho ecbe1c No.2604
>>2427It'd be easier to just run electric kilns off electricity generated from solar power or whatever.
09e03b No.2682
Make PV (solar) panels. There's a wind farm in Walvis Bay also, so there could be others up and down the coast.
1b21a3 No.2735
>>2682But photo-voltaics require too many rare earth elements and it would be more direct to just use raw solar radiation to force the vaporization of water to spin turbines initially.
1b21a3 No.2771
>>2592Federick, all that means is that you have to take it easy and not ride when a crazy person is driving.
Hence the tracked chair.
be3344 No.2773
>>1265Where the fuck are you getting the idea from that we're going to have the industry to make this?
1b21a3 No.2783
>>2773We have to make it from scratch.
This is part of the insanity/greatness/freedom of the idea of Namibia.
We have to DIY everything
be3344 No.2786
>>2783The import price to get the parts necessary to assemble this is probably going to outweigh what we could sell this for,
1b21a3 No.2811
>>2786This is why we buy raw steel from the Chinese and fabricate/machine all the mechanical elements ourselves
002eca No.2819
Top stuff. I remember hearing tesla motors open sourced their engine designs, maybe nicking them and putting them in the tankbuggy would be a good idea, anyone know how much that kind of engine and an appropriate battery would cost to make? Is there a better electric engine out there? Having private transport not reliant on oil would go a long way to make us more independant.
1b21a3 No.2821
>>2814
How can you additively form ferrous metal into structurally sound forms??
1b21a3 No.2825
>>2823
It will still be easier to get raw high carbon steel and machine it into the parts we want.
But new 3d printing tech is a future we will choose in Namibia
1b21a3 No.2827
>>2823
>>2823
It will still be easier to get raw high carbon steel and machine it into the parts we want.
But new 3d printing tech is a future we will choose in Namibia
be3344 No.2845
>>2811>>2814You think we'll be able to make all of those metal and rubber parts from scrap?
be3344 No.2853
>>2849
I just don't think we'll be able to make multiple affordable atv's from scrap metal and rubber.
002581 No.2875
This one is cheaper and still walks on sand. Its german designed and endineered. Was used in WW2.
1b21a3 No.3008
>>2845>You think we'll be able to make all of those metal and rubber parts from scrap?Yes, we can.
Manufacturing is simple once all of the drawings have been made and the facilities are in place
be3344 No.3125
>>3008You're talking like building the infrastructure from scratch necessary to make these parts would be easy or cheap.
1b21a3 No.3369
>>3125No.
Not easy or cheap.
Just possible.
808eff No.3379
>>2875THIS
also VW Beetle, air cooled are great for dry places
d59fc9 No.3384
1b21a3 No.3745
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It looks like howe and howe technologies isn't even making ripsaws anymore from what I can see on their website.
I think there is a business opportunity with fast tracked vehicles. Especially in Namibia.
be08ae No.3752
i thought maybe it would be most advantageous to export energy, or clean water….something the market couldn't do without. imagine the amount of trade. we could also export weapons. that's always there.
1b21a3 No.4081
>>3756
What do you mean? Just the tracks? What application are you thinking about?
Also, another Namibian industry that will have to be started right away is making booze.
What is a fermentable sugar we could start with? Making coconut milk booze?
>I'm going to get to work on experimenting with cocobeer asap
1b21a3 No.4717
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1b21a3 No.4732
>>4729Since we will have to plant palm trees to offset sand drift via large-scale wicking beds, we will probably grow date palms as well as coconuts.
I wonder what a distilled liquor derived from fermented dates would be like?
>>2458 1b21a3 No.4736
>>3745We could even use the tracked off road vehicles to pull people in parachutes.
That would be fun
1b21a3 No.4738
>>2819I doubt electric engines are cheap to manufacture, but I'm not an engineer.
1b21a3 No.4741
>>4740
But still, imagine how rad it would be to baja around on giant sand dunes in a ripsaw like atv that is completely silent and has the torque of an electric vehicle.
Super rad
1b21a3 No.4749
>>4743
>Too expensive for the regional market unfortunately.
right. but I'm thinking about building a pan-african or global market.
I just had an idea for the tracks.
What if the tracks were electro-magnetic? Like a mag-lev train or a rail gun?
I probably shouldn't even post that shit because someone will make a million off of it.
e2a514 No.4759
>>1331namniggerian law means we can only own rifles
1aba84 No.4787
We could always open up some software companies and IT shit. We're a community of pasty men on the internet, computers and programming are our thing.
I can program in C++ and I'm handy with computers.
Maybe New Rhodesia (name pending) could become a world center of IT and software? Custom rig companies and software companies could grow there.
There's also the opportunity to make alcohol.
And vehicles. We could make cheap cars for Africa perhaps? There's potential for other vehicles like buggies and military vehicles.
And what about solar tech? Namibia is one of the most sun-covered places on earth. Could we make solar-charged batteries?
1b21a3 No.4791
>>4787Please stop saying New Rhodesia
It is a cursed name
> law means we can only own rifleswhich is just fine. I just want to build new atv's and have fun, maybe do a little hunting of Cudu. Westerners already flock to Namibia for that purpose.
>And vehicles. We could make cheap cars for Africa perhaps?
That is exactly what I'm thinking. The government of Namibia would welcome us, probably, as they could make big time cash off of new manufacturing industries.
1b21a3 No.4797
>And what about solar tech? Namibia is one of the most sun-covered places on earth. Could we make solar-charged batteries?
That is another idea worth looking into.
I just found out that the government of Namibia is planning on mining iron ore in the Kunene region starting in 2016. This might be a good time to start business relations with them.
1b21a3 No.4826
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Daily reminder that there are already Western capitalists operating somewhat successfully in Africa: at least it seems like REALLY BAD things don't often happen to them.
The Africans seem to know that they need foreign help in developing their continent.
1b21a3 No.4830
>>4829
Much cheaper.
Especially if we get raw material breaks from the Namibian gubment for helping build industry in thier beautiful land.
1b21a3 No.6402
290876 No.6406
Manufacturing engineer here. If we are able to develop our own chemicals everything will be easier. We just need some oil or natural gas and a investment for the plant. Also if we are willing to achieve a good infrastructure a couple of ovens and a limestone quarry to deliver a constant supply of cement.
0bf0ed No.6436
We will need one o this
1b21a3 No.6757
>>6436We will need more than one.
e36a54 No.6878
>>1390this could be really good if we get into tourism. use it to tow the sand boarders back to the top of the dunes.
1b21a3 No.6922
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>>6878I was actually thinking the same exact thing.
I just forgot to post that idea :^)
df47e3 No.7248
>>1265Don't know about NEEDING it, but it would be nice to have a domestic chemical and refining industry. During war time us chemical engineers can switch from specialty chemicals to gas. During the sustained peace I hope we have, chemicals are a great export and refining the products from the mines adds value to exports. Plus, we can make booze and medicine for domestic use.
9a17f0 No.7250
>>7248>War timeThe only war time we'll likely see for a long time is our PMC assisting the Namibian armed forces.
0f00f4 No.7319
We need wood and metalworking training centre to produce future skilled Namibians. That will mean more taxpayers for government.
1b21a3 No.7322
>>7319I am an expert/pro metal fabricator.
9a17f0 No.7370
>>7341
>tone down the blah blah blah
Why should we care if you agree with the project or not? You're more than welcome to not join the settlement.
8e6b85 No.7376
Well, there's the namibian stick industry.
Huge industry.
0f00f4 No.7390
>>7329
What is the email?
34e790 No.7394
>Namibia
>resources
Pick one.
9a17f0 No.7406
>>7394You mean, pick two.
387272 No.7418
df47e3 No.7434
>>2427Another good reason to do this(not him):
Currently, the west has tons of restrictions on glass making because of air pollution(NOx and SOx, mostly). If we just don't give a shit, we could have a huge advantage until we become developed enough to implement the same kind of policies.
1b21a3 No.7443
>>7418We would have to engineer new versions based on the concept of a fast tracked vehicle (possibly using electromagnetic tracks).
The current designs are owned by howe and howe technologies.
Unless we can broker a deal with them to manufacture 'family truck' versions of the ripsaw in Namibia……
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1b21a3 No.7750
Another industry that would make sense is the sea salt derived from the desalination of seawater
8e0461 No.7764
>>1265>>2427great suggestions
1b21a3 No.7866
>>7764Thank you sir.
Any other ideas?
Many of the engineer types suggest making chemicals, and in connection with the hydroponics thread, which I am about to bump, I wonder how difficult it would be to make ammonia for refrigeration?
a75346 No.7872
>>2875>>3379>>479121st-century-updated-design Kubelwagen production line? I think yes.
>>3745That's good for carrying a very small payload (like one or two people) over rough terrain. For any serious transport, nice big trucks (line Urals) are the way to go, especially seeing is this is all very dry, sandy soil.
>>3752We're definitely not going to be *exporting* water. Energy is a maybe; Africa sure is a sunny place. Weapons seem like a promising industry, one that I want to get involved in, but the Namibian govt. isn't overly fond of civilians with guns, so that'd take some finagling to get going.
>>4787IT industry requires stable and halfway-decent power and internet connectivity. That will undoubtedly come with time, but it's out of the picture in the beginning.
>>7319I'm not sure that there's a whole lot of wood supply in the area.
4d9338 No.7873
>>1375$1000 is the least realistic number I've ever seen.
The only way that you could achieve $1000 is if you were to use slave labour.
I'd peg minimum cost of construction at $4000-6000. Maybe. MAYBE.
There's just so much custom machining and fabrication for something like this.
Nowhere near $1000, though. The engine alone is gonna run you $1000. Steel, $2000. Wheels for the tracks are either bought or custom made, both of which are at least $500.
$1000 is the most idiotic number I can even imagine.
….$3000 could perhaps be achieved if you set up dedicated tooling and assembly lines for one, however. But you're looking at at least $300,000 to start full-scale production on these things.
4d9338 No.7874
>>7873Disregard the $3000 at the bottom, typo. Meant to restate the $4000-6000.
a75346 No.7878
>>7873>>7874still a pretty good production cost considering the amount that people would likely be willing to pay for something like that.
9a17f0 No.7881
We have the name:
Africar.
1b21a3 No.7906
>>7873When I said $1000, I meant in raw material cost, before manufacturing or machining of any kind.
The entire 'Namib-mobile' shouldn't have to weigh a ton, and I'm sure we can get raw steel for less than $.50 a pound.
Of course, manufacturing these things from scratch is more of long-term goal, and you are right about us having to buy engines, etc from other manufacturers.
So, your estimate at several thousand dollars per vehicle for cost of manufacturing, initially, is pretty accurate I think.
ba3c3d No.7942
a75346 No.7948
>>7881That's actually not bad at all. Catchy.
d67ea6 No.7967
>>7881Hate to break it to you, but the name's already been taken by Citroen back in the 80s
9a17f0 No.7991
>>7967They were prototypes and they were never produced and not a single one was sold. The vehicles from any images usually didn't even have an engine.
I doubt Citroen has even bothered to keep their trademark up since they've even dumped the specs online.
5edc99 No.8236
>>7967All the cool names get stolen first.