b70662 No.1527
Well obviously if we want to remain a settlement or country we need to train and educate future generations.
How should our education system be structured? What history and subjects should be emphasized? What should be required reading?
>inb4 Mein Kampf
cf9223 No.1537
>>1527Language and mathematics are obvious.
Then there should be survivial, defence/P.E. and medical training.
cf9223 No.1544
I think we should heavily encourage freedom of thought. Bring writing materials so we can 'publish' our own books on philosophy and such.
b70662 No.1550
An idea
Elementary/Grade School
>Children taught English and Afrikaans
>Basic Elementary School shit
>Start physical education so that it sticks with them from a young age
Junior High School
>Maybe start an option of learning German
>Delve into your standard Junior High shit
High School
>Start getting some real experience in different types of fields
>Participation in areas like fabrication and design are required
>Being Bilingual is pretty much required
>Medical and survival training
>Weapons training, Militia training
>Law and government class (try not to pound things into their heads like some dystopia but teach them how the country works and its history)
>Opportunities to become an apprentice or intern to people
College
>Optional, largely paid for by the community.
>Choose your focuses, no retarded forced things like womyn's studies
>Lots of opportunities for engineering and those big-ticket jobs
>Additional opportunities to become an apprentice or intern to people
aeea47 No.1570
>>1550Op I've thought of this type of system before and think it would be a good alternative to the current system
however I don't think college should be community paid,it should be a small fee.maintain facilities or salaries,but not free
b70662 No.1576
>>1570Yeah of course you would pay for it. I just don't want the huge markup that is crippling the US.
ba72d9 No.1599
Economics as a subject that encourages critical/creative thinking should be made mandatory for all high school students in their final year in high school.
No exceptions.
3c9068 No.1602
Red pilling should be mandatory
ba72d9 No.1611
>>1602No, it has to depend on the kind of redpill. Obviously, kikes can use Zionist redpilling against you and can lead to other nations shutting you out. On the contrary, redpills relating to our economy, such as the petrodollar and the effects of the Federal Reserve's actions are welcome since they cannot be dismissed as "le ebil raycist"
fc2ef8 No.1620
Germanic countries tend to have fairly decent education structure. Why not follow that? We can change the curriculum, but the premise is similar. Also, follow anything but an American education structure. It's total shit.
b68216 No.1624
>>1550There would be different challenges which need too be addressed. As a new nation/city-state, you need to project a culture onto the next generation. Being a rural town, it is important to implement some sort of home-economy type of class, or survival class if you will. I believe the schools should be segregated by gender, but teach more or less the same things until highschool (14 years old). The only difference I could see is men learning about farming, and women about taking care of the household. School should last from 9-4 pm, standard 5 days a week with fair recess breaks. I also believe the first teachers should act as some sort of scout, finding potential intellectuals in their respective field. This system should be based on not only on one's knowledge, but his enthusiasm as well. The chosen students should be allowed, but not obliged, to become some type of sage to preserve knowledge. These individuals should be permitted free admittance to higher level education, as long as they maintain a passing note. Of course, individual studies is not only acceptable, but encouraged. Libraries shall be filled with literature pertaining to all subjects imaginable. Sex education class includes to preservation of race. Gym class shall be mandatory for every able-bodied student, for a minimum 45 minutes of physical activity on a daily basis.
fc2ef8 No.1626
>>1620To add to that I think elementary students should learn English, another modern language, mathematics up to algebra (if that's too difficult we can change it), critical reasoning, classical music, fine arts, computer programming and history.
b2af0b No.1628
>>1626depending on the kids, Algebra is perfect to teach in elementary (if this does not count middle school of course)
fdc6fb No.1638
>>1626I also think computer programming will be important to teach the future youth.
fc2ef8 No.1665
>>1628Yeah, as long as we get then young. America makes kids really fucking stupid.
758a82 No.1749
There was literally nothing wrong with Verwoerdian Christian National Education.
c55df7 No.2047
I think we should introduce a class on agriculture/soil science, because that would be on of the major pillars in our society
189d9b No.2105
About the collapse of the west and Roman Empire and other empires.
Some finance skills. So we don't have a nation of debt slaves, and have some form of savings.
Possibly some entrepreneurship ideas.
f7efc3 No.3923
I think one of the most important things would be to split boys and girls up for their initial education.
That allows for the curriculum to be directed towards boys/girls natural attitudes (e.g for boys healthy competition would be encouraged, whereas for girls a more sensitive attitude would be encouraged), it also allows for the subjects themselves to be more or less focused on depending on gender.
E.g boys will be taught more about hunting and combat, whereas the girls will be taught more about agriculture. Neither sex will completely miss out on any subject - the curriculum will just have more focus on the more appropriate ones to their sex. Also there will be a lot of middle ground subjects such as languages and history, which are not sided to either sex more than the other.
Also note I said "initial" education should be split. After a certain point I see no problem with them being taught together as after a certain point their attitudes will be ingrained. Both will "know their place", and that won't be seen as "oppressive" because in Namibia they won't be surrounded by SJWs, "progressives", etc and their media.
c6bad5 No.3927
>Teaching people independent thought
It's like you want your country to fail.
24d35d No.3933
>>3923That women are naturally more sensitive is a myth.
Put men in a sensitive environment and they will grow to be sensitive.
Put women in an aggressive environment and they will grow to be aggressive.
If any of you want this to work equality between sexes is paramount.
f7efc3 No.3966
>>3933
>That women are naturally more sensitive is a myth.Perhaps, but it is more desirable for a woman to be sensitive so sensitivity should be encouraged for women.
>Put men in a sensitive environment and they will grow to be sensitive.>Put women in an aggressive environment and they will grow to be aggressive.That's exactly why they should be split initially. Most of us don't want feminine men or masculine women, so we should raise them in an environment which encourages their respective gender attitude (raise men in a masculine environment and women in a feminine environment).
Any attempt to make a balanced system for everyone is likely to end up favouring one sex or the other in the end.
For example, in the US, I would argue that a large part of why girls do better in schools is because their interests and attitudes are often favoured over those of boys, so boys are often discouraged from perusing their strengths, and might even end up feeling inferior.
I use competition as an example because that seems one of the most obvious ones. Competition comes naturally to most boys, but they are discouraged from playing to that strength (and it *is* a strength. Competition motivates people to do better).
24d35d No.3974
>>3966Says you.
I want a woman who's confident, lean and strong of both body and mind.
Where is the sense in crippling half your population and relegating them to the home when they could be out building, fishing, gathering and hunting?
f7efc3 No.3988
>>3974
>not sure if trollingThose like yourself who find masculine women more attractive than feminine ones are going to be a minority, and I never said anything about relegating women to the home.
In fact if you read my post properly you'd notice I said both sexes would be taught everything, just with priorities for some over others in the initial stages.
What's more is I even said agriculture as an example of a female-encouraged subject, and last time I checked agriculture is usually done in fields and greenhouses, not in the home itself.
Men and women can both do either role if they wish, I just think *initially* there should be a gender-based focus.
24d35d No.4010
>>3988And any startup colony will undoubtedly fail if you do not employ the full strength of every citizen combined.
Even civilisations like Ancient Greece and Rome had women hunting and tracking and gathering in the beginning.
24d35d No.4012
>>3988>>3966>>3923And this why I as a woman would never dream of joining this type of venture.
I'm not going to give up my rights here so that I can play housewife to a bunch of preschool misogynists.
Fuck your "homestay" fantasy pipe dream.
865385 No.4014
>>3988Way to go, faggot.
>>4012 f7efc3 No.4054
>>4012I never said or even implied you'd have less rights. I have said 3 times now that both sexes would get access to every area of education.
Also what part of *initially* do you not understand? I said that 3 times also.
also (assuming you even are a woman), why are you wasting your time here if you've already made up your mind against the project? Either you're an attention-seeker or you're here to purposely de-rail and demotivate the project.
If you disagree with the project that's fine. You don't have to join - but don't come here announcing your resignation to demotivate us and scare people from thinking outside the box. We don't want your negativity.
Also, my ideas are just that: ideas. I have no authority so you shouldn't take my ideas as reality. No ideas should be forbidden from suggesting no matter how controversial. That is what makes /pol/ so appealing. It encourages questioning of the status quo and opens up perspective.
By all means, disagree with my ideas - but don't discourage ideas, no matter how much they "trigger" you. Fresh ideas are what keeps this project alive, and stops it from becoming a generic commune.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the whole point of this project is to do something new. If we didn't want to do that then we could just find a generic commune in our own country.
24d35d No.4690
>>4054I hadn't already made up my mind, I've been posting in multiple threads now since the beginning but the second somebody started suggesting the mass repression of females to specific roles I decided I was out.
I get that in the eyes of the males any woman is essentially a walking womb for you but that attitude simply isn't going to fly in a modern world, which unfortunately for you it is where these bullshit stereotypes are fastly being uncloaked.
IRL I am a Forestry and Conservation student. I make my own tools, I know how to trap, draw up maps, gather, identify thousand of plants and I'm also proficient in GIS. This year I get my chainsaw licence.
You're mad if you think women like me would leave their homes and opportunities to fly thousands of miles to bumfuck nowhere so that we can stay in doors and sweep floors and bake cakes all day.
Maybe if somebody was say providing we frail, fragile womenfolk with an opportunity to carve out our destiny but no, you want to keep literally half your workforce restricted on the bullshit notion that we're biologically more "sensitive".
Throw you and I into the middle of forest on an island for 3 months and see who survives it. That would be me because I'd have built a yurt, a supply of tools, weapons, a water filtration system and have your ass on a rotating spit within a week for muh protein.
fe34fd No.4720
>>1638Definitely computers and computer programming, get that in their heads at a young age.
You have no clue how learning to program applies so well to every other part of your life.
fe34fd No.4727
>>4690Chill out, instead of being belligerent help us find out how we can foster gentle, nice women while them being strong and being able to do these things.
What these anons are really saying is they don't want a "strong independent wymym who don't need no man", surely you understand.
953e17 No.4730
>>1550I'll borrow some ideas, ok?
Elementary/Grade School
>Children taught English and Afrikaans>Basic Elementary School shit>Start physical education so that it sticks with them from a young ageJunior High School
>Maybe start an option of learning a third language>Delve into your standard Junior High shitHigh School
>Start getting some real experience in different types of fields>Participation in areas like fabrication and design are required>Being Bilingual is pretty much required>Medical and survival training>Weapons training (optional)I mean, come on. Fucking militia? are we terrorist or something?
>Law and government class (try not to pound things into their heads like some dystopia but teach them how the country works and its history)>Opportunities to become an apprentice or intern to peopleCollege
>Optional>Choose your focuses, no retarded forced things like womyn's studies>Lots of opportunities for engineering and those big-ticket jobs>Additional opportunities to become an apprentice or intern to people>strongest courses will be focused on energy engineering, agricultural engineering and pretty much everything else related to energy and food 5999b0 No.4737
>>4690Calm down and re-read the posts without the persecution complex. He said nothing about wanting women to "bake cakes" and "sweep floors"
That persecution complex thing isn't suppose to be an insult by the way. I suffer from it as well. It can be difficult to get passed the cognitive dissonance associated with trying to weigh to opposing ideas; especially when one of those ideas is deeply ingrained, and even when the other idea is only tangentially related.
Just take a deep breath, and reread the posts.
557a01 No.4742
If any of you manage to have children to send to school I will be impressed.
557a01 No.4745
>>4054>By all means, disagree with my ideas - but don't discourage ideas, no matter how much they "trigger" you.For a supposed man you sure seem "triggered" by some basic criticism of your shitty idea. Criticism gives you the chance to improve. You think you're going to move to Africa and kindly ask everyone along the way to stop "discouraging" your ideas? You think you're going to be living in a frontier environment, farming and mining in a harsh foreign landscape, asking people to stop "discouraging" you when you propose ideas that nobody likes? Grow up.
24d35d No.4747
>>4737I did and every time I hear men talking about how they want to raise women who are of the more "sensitive" persuasion and direct them more towards the arts and sciences all I hear is "we want the women to stay home and raise the kids and cook and clean while us dependable men actually go out and do something actually worthwhile, there, there dear, stop doing that whole "independent thought" thing, we wouldn't want you to get ideas now would we".
Which is basically what he's saying.
5999b0 No.4754
>>3988While I agree that women and men are naturally different from each other (ie: Men tend to do better in competitive environments etc.), I think to separate them at a young age could do more harm than good. The Early years of childhood are the most formative ones when it comes to social development within the brain. To separate children at such an early age based upon genders could result in a long term lack of understanding between the two sexes, and could deny them of the ability to act cohesively in mixed-sex groups.
As for a solution to the problem of fostering an environment where each gender's strength is played to, I do not have a solution.
Perhaps training teachers to not get involved in male activities that are often frowned upon. Things such as rough housing, and play fighting, as well as sections of the day where they are split based upon gender?
5999b0 No.4756
>>4747I think you're reading too much into it. His idea is that women and men would have separate schooling that plays to their strengths. In this way we don't have schools that favor one sex or the other, but rather can specialize.
Men do tend to be more competitive and women do tend to be more sensitive to the needs of others.
No where in there does he speak about limiting the long term employment opportunities of women, and no where in there does he say they should stay at home. He makes specific claims of this multiple times. Furthermore, nowhere does he say one form of employment (hunting vs. agriculture) is more valuable than the other.
Perhaps his idea comes across as a terrible one to you, but criticize the idea for what it actually is rather than what you presume it to be (and preferably in a way that doesn't come across as condescending).
557a01 No.4757
>>4754It's going to be a long time before there are any children in your settlement, and when there are, it will be a number like 2 or 3 of them and you will have years to figure out how to educate them optimally as they grow. Instead of turning them out like machines based on sex, I think you'll find that you can just raise children individually when there are so few of them, and regardless of their sex they will pick up the skills that are necessary to live in your community. If you guys think that you're going to have to form an actual school any time soon, you're kidding yourselves.
That said, educating them co-ed from a young age makes the most sense. Otherwise they will have shit for social skills and as this anon said, deny them the ability to act cohesively in mixed sex groups. I know from personal experience that women can make excellent farmers, animal herders, and hunters. It would be idiocy to try and imagine what special treatment a young girl "needs". You aren't women. Don't try to guess. You'll only fuck up and cripple half your labor force.
5999b0 No.4783
>>4757Well then what do women need? If you're implying that males cannot have insights into the opposite sex based upon past experiences, than at least provide your own ideas.
I do like your comment about raising children individually initially (perhaps even as a long term solution, though that devolves into the importance of a share source of knowledge and culture). As for your comment about not thinking about schools because they're currently not a pressing issue it's nice to brainstorm. Not only because it involves the exchange of ideas among individuals but also because it'll give us a bag of possible solutions to pull from if schooling ever does become a possible issue. After all a good education is a staple of a strong society.
d06f0d No.4874
>>1550I find this model to be satisfactory. I think there should definitely be a focus on rationalism and military. Also the children should be taught about their European heritage.
d06f0d No.4875
>>1570To what extend should college be paid for though? Education of this level should achievable to all, so that we can have as many well-rounded individuals as possible.
d06f0d No.4877
>>1611Can we at least have subtle undertones of antisemitism and white supremacy? Surely these are crucial to ensure that our values aren't corrupted by Zionists and the like
273e58 No.4879
>talking about education system
>not a single one of us is in Namibia
>most will not contribute anything and will stay in the hedonist West
nothing will be decided on 8chan, everything will be decided by those that actually make the trip and contribute shekels
d06f0d No.4880
>>1624
Why segregated schools til high school? What issue is there in children developing relationships between genders at that age?
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d06f0d No.4892
>>4754I believe that as a solution, there should simply be gendered subjects and gender neutral subjects. The gendered ones being taught to their respective gender and the neutral one being mixed. also mixed breaks?
24d35d No.4933
Just a heads up guys, but you realise who else thought it'd be a good idea to segregate the genders? Particularly throughout their educational years?
Yeah.
No segregation.
be27b6 No.5021
>>4933Yeah and Muslims execute gays too, that means being fag degeneracy is good right?
45e38d No.8492
>>4933
Segregated gender school can improve the education and have less distractions for the children and teachers. I think it need to be segregated from preschool to grade eight high school.
f3da05 No.8499
>>1550
Personally, I feel like the college level learning should be entirely based around a skill set for a specific role in the community that can be filled, taking ideas from both the US college system, as well as the constantly overlooked trade schools.
i.e.
>Security
>Agriculture
>Medical Assistance
>Electronics / IT
>Economics focus
>History / Culture Studies
>Mathematics
>Teaching
00bb04 No.8507
>>8499
Lower levels up to middle school should cover the basics.
High school and college should focus on their specific trade or field of study. Our farmers dont need to know how to find the area of a nonexistent triangle. They will however need to know how much water they need to grow their crops or how long until harvest time