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e89dcf No.3457
I believe our territory should be -de iure- a monarchy with a clear-cut constitution. Have a friendly monarch (actual power up for debate) who acts as a figurehead and assures great Public Relations and assurances to democracy and freedom.
Of course -de facto- we can have NS or fascist government and operate internally how we want, but I believe a constitutional monarchy as the face for this new Namibia will hopefully garner not only prestige but some positive reaction by European nations and perhaps the UN, God willing (I think trying to appeal to America is a fruitless effort).
My only problem is how we would choose a monarch, optimally I believe a European who owns a title or land of any kind would improve legitimacy to foreign powers.
>remember I mean this only on paper, I am not discussing the reality government
e89dcf No.3464
*constitutional, my bad.
If you want to see proof of how monarchs can be great PR, look at King Juan Carlos of Spain.
595028 No.3467
No, fuck monarchies, their gay.
e89dcf No.3469
>>3467A compling counterargument free of grammatical error.
595028 No.3470
>>3469monarches r fucken ghey
e3351b No.3502
look the idea of a constitutional monarchy is cute and all but we need a democracy. not a republic or a monarchy.
860570 No.3516
Only if Hotwheels would be our king.
4bc278 No.3517
f5aff7 No.3519
If dubs, I am the king.
10aff3 No.3522
The king should be a nigger in order to deflect accusations of racism. One of those ones that hate your typical niggers, but are too proud to mix with other races: you know what I mean. A puppet king, basically
0e604f No.3559
A monarchy only works if its absolute.
e89dcf No.3849
>>3559Do you support that?
887265 No.3872
>arguing about a gov't
>when you wouldn't achieve autonomy for decades to come
860570 No.3874
>>3522We aren't building another USA.
b40210 No.3887
>>3502>implying democracy isn't complete shit 5e3fc5 No.3889
>>3457It's a settlement, in an existing country. We can't have a monarchy.
e89dcf No.3894
>>3889That logic doesn't seem to connect. Look at the Principality of Sealand, it's on an abandoned ship carrier from WWII and half-satire; this is a real project.
If we just set up some fascist banana republic it would not be seen as legitimate as a monarchy.
5e3fc5 No.3896
>>3894You're missing the point. It won't be an independent nation. It will be a town in Namibia, under the Namibian government.
e89dcf No.3897
>>3894I forgot to mention another example; look at the Kingdom of Lesotho. It's a dindu-flooded microstate surrounded by South Africa. If it was just the Republic of Lesotho I can bet you South Africa would annex it in an instant. Monarchy has a compelling psychological effect.
If Luxembourg or Liechtenstein was a Republic you can also bet they would unite with Germany. An exception like San Marino at least has an excuse like being the oldest nation.
5e3fc5 No.3899
>>3897We won't be independent.
e89dcf No.3900
5e3fc5 No.3911
>>3900>implyingHow do you plan to declare independence? We can't beat them in a fight, we'll be a few hundred guys at most. If they don't nationalize our shit the moment we start doing well, they'll be smart enough to not take bribes to let us out. It will be in their best interest to keep us in their nation.
eb1506 No.3957
Fuck Monarchies. We already had a poll on what kind of government we wanted, and the only two government types that were actually significant in the number of votes they recieved was National Socialism and Libertarian Republic. Monarchies would be a horrible idea because it would be an endless power struggle amongst us for the throne.
e89dcf No.3973
>>3957>lolbertarianYeah this totally won't end up in a degenerate shithole situation in 3 years.
Also National Socialism is completely compatible with Monarchism you idiot. And that poll isn't even official in the sticky. The mod needs to set up one everyone can see.
6eab6e No.3985
>>3973okay monoarchfag
who gets to be the first king?
e89dcf No.3987
>>3983Well a monarchy is a form of government and National Socialism is a form of politics. That was an unfair divide. There can be liberal monarchies, conservative monarchies, even plain socialist monarchies.
>>3985read OP
>My only problem is how we would choose a monarch, optimally I believe a European who owns a title or land of any kind would improve legitimacy to foreign powers. 5e3fc5 No.4005
>>3987Fuck it, I'm pretty sure i'm descended from Charlemagne, and could theoretically claim to be the head of my mother's house considering nobody else has, and we used to hold a fair amount of land back in Ireland.
b40210 No.4048
>>4005One of my old teachers is a descendant of Charlemagne, he's also red-pilled as fuck and is total /pol/ material even though I doubt he's ever browsed it.
4bc278 No.4580
7f334e No.4588
>>3887this.
>>3889>>3894i don't think we should have an official government until we ask for independace(which will be never since the niggers will kill us as soon as we make the land hospitable) but until then a governing body that operates like nazi germany did.
only instead through a communal bank that we operate and feed money.
97c638 No.4728
we have some of noble blood in our ranks, but a monarchy or similar would only be able to be established in distant future.
>>3559this.
710e2b No.4903
For those saying we need a democracy it must be remembered that we are trying to escape liberal ideas and democracies seem to have a funny way of encouraging them. We will also be a fledgling nation which will need strong leadership that is willing to make quick and decisive decisions. we also want to be fairly traditionalist and since monarchies thrive on tradition there is really no alternative.
73e141 No.4908
>>3973>Also National Socialism is completely compatible with Monarchism you idiot.Confirmed for knowing jack shit about National Socialism.
5abfcc No.4915
>>3457Libertarian or bust
e89dcf No.5125
>>4908No, you're the one who knows "jack shit". The ONLY conflict in monarchist and NS politic is populism and anti-aristocracy, but a centralized monarchy can easily become a national populist state.
Even though pure fascism isn't exactly aligned with NS, Mussolini keeping de Savoia on the throne for stability and culture is a good example.
You just have a prejudice that you think a republic is hot epic shit.
9082ff No.5143
>>5125Shekelgrabber couldn't stand monarchy, and I'm sure the Strasserists had even less respect for it.
http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2011/11/enemy-of-monarchy-adolf-hitler.html