6246a1 No.4378[Last 50 Posts]
http://www.geolsocnamibia.org/excursionsWe have found a geological society in Namibia that might be able to survey the land for us.
It costs ~$26 per person to go on an excursion, so paying them a few hundred dollars to start a survey is most likely a very real possibility.
Knowing this, we need to come up with 1-3 areas to send them to to get detailed reports about.
So the question becomes, where EXACTLY are we interested in founding a town? Hopefully near the coast to allow for a port, and I would suggest NOT near the north, as that is the more populated area of Namibia.
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081ab7 No.4380
>>4378North has the best soil and most vegetation. The coast is desolate and desert. Southwest Namibia is a savanna and has a few shrubs and grasses and it is also on the coast so it may be okay.
6246a1 No.4384
>>4380north already has a bunch of people living in it, and I'm not sure if there is any land for sale over there
the southwest coast is most likely the location the town would be founded at in my opinions, coast access, not purely just empty desert, and private land for sale
081ab7 No.4389
>>4384Well in actuality the southwest looks more barren and dry than anywhere else.
7aeb72 No.4393
>>4389well we are aiming to reinvigorate a area that is not habitable for the native population
6246a1 No.4395
>>4389traditional farming would be near impossible regardless, so the soil isnt as important as you would think
aquaculture (fish poop feeding plants) and goat farming would most likely be the viable forms of food production, and neither rely heavily on local wildlife, goats more than the fish obviously
as long as it is shrubby or a grassland goats should be fine to survive as long as we have some legumes and water for them
it isnt an impossible idea to start life in the desert, huge swathes of the world do it, we can do it too
081ab7 No.4396
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>>4393Yes, I know, this is me, HerryPooter.
>>4395I suggested Permaculture which is possible. Aquaculture isn't cost efficient and it's very limited.
efe180 No.4398
>>4378Thanks anon, i'll absolutely need this to start planning for the homes
081ab7 No.4401
6246a1 No.4404
>>4396>>4399>>4401well there was a complete farm for sale south of windhoek i believe, north of mariental that had grasslands and wells
it was around $2m USD if I recall, but had some houses and grazing lands all ready to go, along with animals included
that would probably be the best bet if we had serious funding
I'm torn between the coast and further inland in the grasslands. the coast offers a port and ability to ship things, but further inland would probably be more stable and useful for raising lifestock
081ab7 No.4406
>>4404The coast is out of the picture we can't have bare land. Do you have a link to the farm?
6246a1 No.4407
>>4406its in one of the other threads if I remember, i'll trawl through them in a minute
here is a map of rivers
further inland looks like it would be the most realistic choice
6246a1 No.4415
http://www.pamgolding.co.za/namibia/tsumeb/for-sale/11500ha-mixed-farm/3nm1145428/detailsmegafarm for $8m, this is the lofty dream goal, most likely wont happen, but serves to show what COULD happen
http://www.auctionwisenamibia.com/?_escaped_fragment_=farms-in-the-south/cgc7#!farms-in-the-south/cgc7FIRST property seems promising, a simple goat farm, grasses and minor construction done for 1.25m USD
SECOND property shown is a game farm, grass and water, more promising for $175 her hecace, everything for sale including animals, this one is most likely since we could buy it piece by piece
554584 No.4417
6246a1 No.4419
>>4415whoops, in the second link, the first property is in south africa, not namibia
9fbc24 No.4421
>>4415here is better link (looked like the page styling was stripped)
http://www.auctionwisenamibia.com/#!farms-in-the-south/cgc7Keetmanshoop farm, has literally everything
d460dd No.4427
>>4421This is our best bet. We would already be generating an income, plus property has a massive lake on it we can get water from. Literally everything we need
6246a1 No.4428
>>4421yeah noticed that after dicking around on the site
there are actually quite a few VERY PROMISING farms showcased on the site for either a million or two total, or 150-175 per hecacre, not to be confused with a regular acre, a hecacre is 2.5x bigger
the pictures paint it to be a beautiful and wonderful place to farm goats, and as somebody who has raised goat/sheep/pigs/cattle/chickens/rabbits/ect. it means a lot, you could raise hundreds of goats on that property, and they apparently have around 2k head on site already
holy shit this could be it lads
6246a1 No.4438
rough area of where keetsmanshoop is
temps range from ~35-18c in the warm seasons, and ~25-8c in the cold seasons, 20k people live there
average rainfall is 150mm per year, which is workable
it is near two rivers, a dam, a FOOTBALL STADIUM (not a backwater shithole), some forests, and a museum
9fbc24 No.4452
>>4438On that same website check out the business section, there was a rather large property (but not a farm) on the banks of the northern border river. "Rundu"
6246a1 No.4454
>>4452it would be 120k USD, it is right next to the river, seems lush and green
HOWEVER, it is 3600 square meters, or roughly 1/3rd of a hectare, much too small to be of use for anything other than a small farm or a house
keetsmanshoop is so far the most promising, i'll keep looking
064299 No.4752
>>4454Lüderitz looks promising
6246a1 No.4809
update:
sent an email to the realtors about whether the keetsmanshoop farm is for sale by hectare, or as an entire estate
hopefully they reply per hectare, and in a timely manner
d460dd No.4845
>>4809very good, very hopeful that it is by hectare
b9f5be No.4847
6246a1 No.4860
>>4847didnt take a screenshot of it or anything but i sent the email inquiring
when/if they respond ill post it
fcdaac No.5086
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>>4396>>4399>>4401>>4403>>4407>>4417>>4438>>4452With all these maps, I feel like the distribution of whites through Namibia should be noted as well.
Seems like the South is golden if we can get some land there.
fcdaac No.5095
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>>4438Is Keetsmanshoop already sold?
fcdaac No.5128
>>5095Nvm, that's Maltahoho that's sold.
554584 No.5131
>>5086Here's Keetmanshoop.
Right where we want.
fcdaac No.5134
>>5131I don't know if it says, but do we get livestock and equipment with Southern Jewel? If we do, it's cheaper and more land. What's wrong with that?
1225e5 No.5139
>>5131seems like the best bet
e4ef6a No.5153
>>5131driving times:
6h40m to windhoek
4h17m to the coast (luderitz)
10h to walvis bay
10h21m to swakopmund
fcdaac No.5156
>>5153This shouldn't matter too much. Remember, the ones funding us expect us to be doing charity work, not a scam. Our resources have to go into giving natives jobs and giving us homes to repopulate and fill.
8ca884 No.5173
6246a1 No.5226
Huge but unfortunate news!
Keetsmanshoop farm is only for sale in its entirety, not per hectare as we originally thought.
Don't lose heart, as there are other sites to find farms for sale for cheaper, we just need to keep looking.
Worst case scenario we purchase some land and have to do all the upgrades on our own.
5d262f No.5228
>>5226ASK HIM HOW MUCH.
I AM RAISING FUNDS AS WE SPEAK.
6246a1 No.5233
>>5228it came to about 2m USD, you can look on their site and do the currency conversion yourself if you dont believe me
6b385e No.5234
I don't know you guys, but if Israel is having a bad time regarding the fact that they receive billions of dollars, military and mainstream media help. And that is around Arabs. What makes you think a couple of enthusiasts can do on an sovereign nation? Look at SA for example, once they build a successful place the Blacks came in from the North, and took everything raping families, destroying any transportation, looting the cities and most important flooding the entire country with a massive immigration.
And the world celebrated because they were whites and they were "Africans" ignoring the fact that blacks didn't lived there before the European colony settle there. You are not Jews, and Blacks are more violent and dynamic than the past. So what is your long-term objectives?
d460dd No.5235
>>5228Something like 2.1 million
8ca884 No.5236
554584 No.5239
We can do it, just need to find new land.
There's not a lot of better options, Namibia was picked for a variety of reasons.
Find new land, get our people on the ground, start building.
It's not the end of the world that we don't have Keetsmanshoop.
d460dd No.5240
>>5234No one is declaring sovereignty, we are immigrating and forming a community
554584 No.5243
Daily reminder we have an NGO in the works, don't get discouraged goyim, it's not the end of the world.
6246a1 No.5247
http://www.pamgolding.co.za/namibia/keetmanshoop/for-sale/7084ha-stock-farm/3nm1185559/details?propertyindex=5So far this is the most realistic option now that Keetsmanshoop has been effectively tabled for now.
4,000,000 N$ = ~350k USD
Also got an email update if anybody cares to help with some criteria in case they find new farms for sale.
d460dd No.5253
>>5247Thanks, Scoot
You might want to tell him of our budget (make it <N$4.5M)converted $400K USD
Aquifers on property? Lakes? Lets get more ideas before you reply
6246a1 No.5257
>>5253We probably wouldn't even need more than 100 hectares, 1 hectare = 10k sq metres
100 hectares would probably be more than we could ever use for fucks sake, the issue is that we would want it to be developed
d460dd No.5260
>>5257You are right. There is just something nice about having a fuckton of land
We would also need lots of land if raising large amounts of livestock
6246a1 No.5269
So here is a rough outline of some criteria I can email back.
1. ~100+ hectares
2. Southern Namibia
3. Semi-Developed at a minimum, water, farmland. livestock and facilities are a bonus
4. Farming and raising livestock
5. 2.5m N$ or lower, which would come out to be roughly $200k
thoughts and improvements?
94c422 No.5270
>>5269Hmm excellent but wait one day, until we all are in agreeance.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WaNL9TYtRBfoO_yDFVlZiYTW38LE3gbBD5DAHVcRHGc/edit?usp=sharingLet's figure out what everyone's thoughts are tomorrow.
Great job Scoot.
68cd61 No.5272
Holy shit. Lads…
I saw this shit when it was first posted and was under the impression this dream would never be realized.
I got on 8chan for the first time since then today… and I see /namibia/ ahead of /int/ and /leftypol/.
I fucking applaud you guys.
94c422 No.5274
>>5272Get a tag name, read different posts, join the IRC and say how you can help.
Don't just stand there goy.
6246a1 No.5290
94c422 No.5362
>>5290Based on all these locations, here is the best spot so far…
>>513135% white
>>4417Not a national park
>>4407By the river Nossob or river Olifants
https://www.google.com/search?q=nossob+river&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Fy7GVMuTH8XlsASl5oHwDA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1279&bih=591>>4403Kalahari Shrubland
>>4401Trees and shrubs
>>4396Medium biomass development
I bet it's cheap fucking land, underdeveloped, with white neighbors and land the government could give a fuck about seceding.
The closer to the border of Botswana the better, as this gives us two countries to negotiate with and buy land from.
The north is full of malaria, tons of blacks and poverty. All no-nos.
Start digging guys.
9e3334 No.5375
>>5362>no sea accessgood luck having any economy at all.
56c957 No.5378
Any biologists here?
d8bab0 No.5475
>>4395Goats are the worst kind of animal you can raise in a desert, because when they eat they pull grass out along with the roots. What you want is sheep and cattle, they leave the roots as they are and only eat the top of the grass. Goats are literally the most stupid animals to grow in an environment like the Namibian coast.
d46b27 No.5520
I was thinking about Dubai…
Maktum family sure have tons of money, but they managed to create a paradise in the middle of the fucking desert, attracting tourists.
What if we try to do the same? For example, in the middle of fucking nowhere in infertile lands (cheap terrain i think), create a formula 1 racetrack. 1 hectare is enough for it.
Attracting rich people could be a great deal.
f3e2d9 No.5525
>>5520dubai is part of the UAE which has deep connections with global networks and has a fuckload of oil
f3e2d9 No.5528
>>5375basically the entire coast are dunes with nothing that are part of a reserve
fb2fea No.5599
>>5528If it's nothing but dunes that way then would buying a strip of land connecting the new community right up until water is reached even be viable/possible?
8bf6cf No.5606
This area right here is worth checking out. According to Google Earth data, it's the site of the Huab River, a largely dry riverbed that no one gives two shits about.
Buying a narrow strip along that bed would give us fertile soil, easily well-dug fresh water access, and coast access.
7ac28d No.5609
>>5606Don't forget the floods.
8bf6cf No.5610
>>5609I would say that seasonal flooding could actually be a good thing. With a bit of engineering, the floods could be directed by basic dirt levies away from any housing and into farm fields, depositing valuable silt and making larger swaths of soil more fertile. If we did that for a few years, we could significantly increase the amount of viable farmland in the area. Then during the dry season we could pump up well water (presumably even the "dry" riverbed will still have a high and easily accessible water table) both for cheap drinking water and irrigation.
Plus, as has been mentioned many times before, a coastal location is preferable if we can make it work.
97803e No.5612
Does this thing have a website yet. Cause I'm actually liking this idea.
6246a1 No.5758
Sent this back to the realtor:
1. ~250-750- hectares
2. Something in the state of Hardap, or the Kalahari. If that is not available, the South would be ideal.
3. Developed if possible
4. Farming/Livestock
5. N$ 1,150/ $100 USD per hectare of developed farmland, with a premium for included livestock, equipment, and/or lakes/rivers running through the property.
Being far from the nearest town is not a concern.
I look forward to hearing back,
Name
319e42 No.6021
>>5269Just my two cents about this post
>>5257Maybe only 50 hectacres? 100k is a lot easier to raise and if we do raise more its more money in the pot.
6246a1 No.6028
>>6021send them 250-750ha at ~$100 per ha, better development = more $$$ as outlined here, which would be 25-75k+ for 1-3+ sq miles of land
>>5758will probably hear back later tonight or tomorrow, hopefully
0d1c0b No.6111
>>6028So it would be better just to spend the 200k altogether.
6246a1 No.6132
>>6111only if we have that amount of money and get land that is worth ~200k
we dont know how much money we have, some people have promised investmends of 40k+, but until there is proof we have to assume there is functionally zero monies
fcdaac No.6149
>>5912I guess I'll be the first to say it. We're going to have the whole world against us excluding other white only areas that aren't jew owned, which are sparse. The only point in having a dock would be if we could access these other potential trading areas by sea, which of the ones I've heard of, we won't be able to.
Eventually when we have more colonies, we'll need some form of access, but until then, we'll need to be largely independent economically considering most sub Saharan countries are extremely racist against whites and won't be trading with us or even allowing us to use their infrastructure.
Also, one thing that we need 100% is mineral resources including metals such as lead, iron, copper, etc. and petroleum or coal. You can probably guess why we'll need these resources.
Otherwise, great fucking job, fellers. I can't believe how and good this is doing, even with /leftypol/ doing their damndest to stop us.
89a4fa No.6259
>>6149We may have some… odd allies…
North Korea, Venezuela, Syria, maybe Iran.
89a4fa No.6260
>>5912Fucking awesome.
Do you think you could do an at least basic map for Kenya?
It sounds like a worthy alternative to Namibia…
fcdaac No.6278
>>6259Norks won't want to ally us. China won't be happy with the idea of whites colonizing their continent. Just look up the history of some of the African countries. China helped them all out so that someday the Chinese could colonize and farm Africa for everything it's worth. Norks aren't going to risk allying with an enemy of their biggest ally.
Venezuela is only allies with the middle east because together they can inflate the fuck out of oil prices and make way more money than they could selling the oil for fair market value. They aren't going to ally a largely right wing white supremacist colony with no major resources for shits and giggles. Plus, Venezuela is like an annoying little brother that tries to imitate Iran, which I'll explain why we won't get them next.
Iran is buttbuddies with Russia. Russia and China have a big thing going. Iran allies us, China isn't happy. China shills to Putin about us and threatens cutting Russia off, so Russia threatens Iran. Iran decides between a population of 100 max white supremacists out in the fucking desert of Nowhere and their biggest ally excluding China. Guess who they'll choose.
Syria is buddies with Russia, same as Iran.
Honestly, we have a better bet being allies with the West than any country mainly connected to Russia or China, and the West isn't going to ally us if the majority are so fucking brainwashed they actually believe all races are equal. This is why our best bet is posing as a charity for Western support, making the native population grow a huge boner for us by seeming like we're doing it all for them, and secretly growing powerful until we can come out of the closet, to say. Basically, we do what the jews did in the West.
>>6260I agree. Even if we stay with Namibia, I think we should do the math on a few possible alternative locations in case if one is a better starting spot in the long run
as I believe Kenya is.
69945b No.6331
>>6278"china farm Africa".
lol, nigga please, China wants the minerals there; coltan, diamonds, oil, gold.
4fb077 No.6355
you fagoots won't make it to namibia,, not at least with out, thes
b947bd No.6399
I am studying Geology.
Can I come too?
94c422 No.6418
National Geographic Live! - Jewel of Namibia –
http://youtu.be/hv-JMEOYl8MTalks about the coast
fcdaac No.6435
>>6399>Are you white? If not, what is your racial background?>Are you a degenerate or do you have a history of degeneracy in any form?>Are you a faggot?>Are you a wimin?>Anything else you may think is valuable about yourself to our mission.If you meet the criteria, you'd be quite the help for our mission.
45e001 No.6463
>>6355How can we get "thes"?!
5d8c0b No.6620
>>6149I have been personally planing on buying a rather large boat (around 90ft at least) and fucking off and just sailing around for much the same reasons you guys are forming this colony. If you guys had a dock you would attract alot of world cruisers who just sail about which would help with image and some tourism. I would also be willing to fish and haul cargo for you fucks cause I'm going to have a crane aboard anyway might as well use it. Also fishing is good for food, fertilizer and you can sell the shit.
2f4c7c No.6624
is there any reason why this cant be done in a White Nation?
Self sufficiency sounds good but you need a fail safe.
Growing your own food is an good ideal, but face it, you'll be buying everything else. Guns, building supplies, medication, plumbing and sanitation….
Will you ever drink tea, alcohol or coffee again?
Trade is essential to any society.
I feel that you want to go all in, but why not just create your community first? If you are serious about this get together, go camping in America or Australia. Start a small building project or something.
If you have your hearts set on africa try immigrating to south africa. Get your visas and learn from the locals how to deal with black populations and the politics of africa.
I already live in a white community in australia. I dont need to escape anything. It is my fellow whites that i worry about. The poor who are forced to live in multicultural areas.
a229e0 No.6668
5aa105 No.6783
>>6718
Geez, please be patient. We will find out the result June or July. Can the people ever be patient? This project is very young.
79a2dd No.6819
>>6783This. Usually stuff like this takes years.
If we can do this within one year, or even before the end of this year then it would be incredibly fast.
d25b23 No.7000
>>6624First of all because there are no white nations (except maybe Malta or Iceland, or other microstate that hasn't been tainted yet).
Second, it's because most developed countries would do anything to prevent this idea from happening.
31579f No.7096
>>7000>there are blacks in USA>we (a dozen or so of NEETs and underachieving young guys, 99% male) must move to Africa, to preserve the white racethis is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
move to East Europe if you dislike immigrants (how ironic), Russia has lot of land and you can hate fags with the government together
45e001 No.7099
>>7096The idea would be to move to a self contained community though, not install ourselves in the general population.
That's basically the idea behind America, Canada, Australia, Rhodesia, South Africa, etc.
I know you know the difference but you're strawmanning.
45e001 No.7100
>>7096Besides it wouldn't just be the White people from 8chan, but also integrate some of the 150,000 White Namibians.
fbbf2c No.7325
>>7269>4] Lines of Division Begin over which looks Better - Young White Nambian Boys or Cute Black Namblan Girls>>7100Besides it wouldn't just be the White people from 8chan, but also integrate some of the 150,000 White Namibians.
You guys are all fucking retarded. You really think every white person is going to climb aboard your project? Even if they did, pan-africanist will raid your shit in a second. Your delusions of grandeur were hilarious at first, but now they're just sad. I know that any post the points out a hole in this sca- uh- I mean project will be deleted, but just know you are all retarded. I'm screen-capping every post on her and reporting your NGO for threats of domestic terrorism.
0b7c8f No.7330
>>7325>You really think every white person is going to climb aboard your project?Consult a dictionary over the definition of the word "some".
>Even if they did, pan-africanist will raid your shit in a second. Orania is doing fine and there are a few almost all White cities in Namibia.
>I'm screen-capping every post on her and reporting your NGO for threats of domestic terrorism.So you're going to report domestic terrorism of a Latvian NGO on a Philippines based imageboard for domestic terrorism of legally moving to Namibia and doing nothing but setting up a little city, teach natives to farm and battle against poachers. Without access to IPs. While /baphomet/ does literally illegal things all day erryday and nobody can pin a thing on them.
Yeah, you tell me how that works out, buddy.
45e001 No.7392
>>7388
We are a closed community. The black Namibians will have no influence in our community.
a8c39a No.7685
>>7392except of couse to serve as sausage resources in our new presentation once we realise that namblan girls won't & we can't & someone stole our passports and WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT CRAWLING OUT OF THAT BOX OVER THERE??!!!?!??!
a8c39a No.7690
>>4378
>We are a closed community. The black Namibians will have no influence in our community. 7c02ca No.7703
Srsly you guise ur going about this the wrong way.
What we rlly need to do is set up a GATED COMMUNITY in one of the larger cities and dominate the indigenese using the same strategy the Jews use to dominate the US
b57462 No.7738
>>7703The more viable plan is basically that. Buy a farm, abide by all of namibia's laws, just set up a community of like minded people, and grow the community with time.
430cc2 No.7753
Here's a map of Africa's aquifers. Water is necessary for productivity.
>>5599Oh, yeah, let's buy a 300km strip of land.
>>5606>>5610This guy isn't particularly wrong. That's how the Egyptians did it for millenniums.
>>5612That's what this is, isn't it?
a82619 No.7773
>>7753why does the Sahara have such high aquifer productivity?
430cc2 No.7775
>>7773Dunno. I'm not a fucking geologist.
343bb0 No.7827
>>5378Yep.
First off, I am not participation in a blood bath on either side.
But I am interested in the project.
My command of micro and biochem is weak but ecological is a strength which will help here.
Without even looking anything up the soil is iodine poor, that whole section of the world is but a pound of sea salt will keep goiters from developing in a small human population for a long time. Animal feed can be supplemented and as it passes through the food chain the iodine content in the soil will rise.
As dry as it is there will be a lot of work to do with soil bacteria but as long as a section is moist enough for wood to rot we will not need to harvest bacteria elsewhere.
Small scale agriculture and permaculture are things I have done a lot of work on.
Gimmi dirt and water and i will make things grow.
343bb0 No.7828
>>5475This guy is right. They can denude an area.
Chickes are good for the soil. plant an area with nitrogen fixing plants like beans, let the chickens freerange and the soil will get richer on its own. Note that chickens are kind of fragile; prone to death by dehydration, several diseases and so on but there are undomesticated subspecies, normally called junglefowl, that they can be hybred to and naturalized to almost any climate.
51afb5 No.7841
>>7827I'm pretty sure that we're all hoping to avoid a bloodbath. However, wouldn't carcasses add pockets of significant nutrient concentration to the soil?
In all seriousness, though, your advice is and will continue to be appreciated.
ef43da No.7892
>>7827That construction is much more complicated than necessary.
Simply take painted black sheet metal with a "dent" in the middle where the evaporated water will collect.
Also dont discard the brine. Salt is expensive and may be useful in conserving food or for cooking
a8c39a No.8107
>>5520 -> Look what I Found Guys!
Ethnic composition
These were the ten cities or neighborhoods in Los Angeles County with the largest percentage of white residents, according to the 2000 census:[56]
Malibu, California, 88.8%
Hidden Hills, California, 88.7%
Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles, 88.6%
Topanga, California, 87.6%
Beverly Crest, Los Angeles, 87.5%
Westlake Village, California, 85.5%
Manhattan Beach, California, 85.5%
Hollywood Hills West, Los Angeles, 84.9%
Hermosa Beach, California, 84.9%
Fairfax, Los Angeles, 84.7%
69945b No.8119
>>8107… And we will help build a stronger and more productive African nation by living in one of those communities, how?
a8c39a No.8137
>>8119 - Answer = Won't
>that's not the pointEscapism is the Entire Actual Point
>(escapism in the Dungeons and Dragons sense) b0a1eb No.8243
3 months to go!
047213 No.8245
>unstickied
Happening?