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e476f7 No.6101
Are we really set on Namibia?
Kenya has a lot more farmland, in fact looking a lot more like Rhodesia was before it was ruined.
Sure there are fewer Whites in the area but they speak English, and don't have a black nationalist party second in polls like Namibia, while they are somewhat less stable their economy is better…
Why should we (Whites) toil in the desert when there are better options?
85c137 No.6103
holy fuck stop with these threads of "NAMIBIA IS SHIT LETS MOVE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA WITH THE FROG ON A LOG"
go make /kenya/
god damn 5 fucking times a day with this shit
READ THE STICKY
af970d No.6109
This board is not limited to Namibia as a destination, read the rules
e476f7 No.6115
>>6103Namibia isn't shit, in fact I found out about Kenya by reading into African agriculture.
Even the UN is concerned that despite Kenya having insane amounts of untapped agricultural potential, the country is still starving.
65% of that nations viable farmland is totally unused.
I'm not shitting on the idea, but it's worth looking into.
f0872e No.6116
>>6103Maybe, just maybe, when all these people say it's a bad idea, it's worth taking a step back and reconsidering?
You're still in the early days. It's not too late to change destinations. It's much easier to adjust now than a decade down the line when the black nationalist party comes to power and decides to seize your assets, or when a drought hits and you're BTFO of a harvest.
e476f7 No.6121
Apparently black people in Kenya worship Whites and the government doesn't take any anti-White actions unlike other African nations:
http://kenyanvoice.com/2013/06/11/racism-is-very-high-in-kenya-and-africa/ e476f7 No.6123
>Police corruption is sited as one of the few downsides of life here, as the life for the white population is very stable and quite comfortable. They enjoy all the hedonism you need and relations with the black population are generally positive.
>If you look at neighbouring countries and see how life is there for the whites, there is no question Kenya is relatively calm. In South Africa there has been an escalation of racial tension and in Zimbabwe the remaining whites must feel somewhat uncomfortable, as virtually all the white farmers have been forced to leave. Indeed, Kenya has welcomed some of these white refugees, inviting them to come and set up here.
>Although Kenya’s white population is now around 20,000, it is said that of this only around 5,000 are the old colonial people, who were here at independence in 1963.
>I am taken to the airport by an articulate Kenyan, called Joseph and ask for his feeling about the whites. He respects the management skills that were brought by the colonial power to Kenya, saying that they were, and still are very good farmers. His take on the recent infamous murder cases was somewhat confused, and was convinced that Cholmondeley was indeed a murderer. As I pay the driver the 1300 shillings, I am reminded that, like or not, the British presence is still much in evidence, even naming the currency after a coinage long since lost back in the UK.http://www.martinparr.com/2010/the-whites-of-kenya/ 85c137 No.6125
>>6116because they look at namibia and see
>african country>next to SA>has a desert>assume its shitthey dont do any research on it
they dont read up anything regarding it
they dismiss it after 5 seconds of thought
its just tired shitposting at this point
everybody said the sun revolved around the earth nerd, that isn't an argument, and black nationalists and drought can hit kenya just as easily
e476f7 No.6127
>>6125>>6125>black nationalists can hit kenya just as easilyThat shit doesn't happen overnight, Kenyans practically worship Whites, they have good memories of White rule unlike Namibians that are still uneasy after being part of SA in the past.
Besides it's happening RIGHT NOW in Namibia, why would we want to walk into that lion's maw?
>drought can hit kenya just as easilyThat is just illogical. Besides, an agricultural wonderland doesn't turn into the Namibian desert overnight, brochacho.
85c137 No.6131
>>6127and that doesnt invalidate the hundred thousand white farmers that live peaceful uneventful lives in namibia without starving to death or being unable to get water
wells exist
farming exist
rivers exist
if you want to move to kenya then do it since you are apparently africans golden god
e476f7 No.6133
>>6131Of course all those things exist, but we have barely started this plan, if better alternatives exist in the continent, why not take that route?
What is so magical about Namibia that doesn't exist in Kenya?
It seems like everything we want, but better.
85c137 No.6134
>>61331. extremely cheap, ~$100 per ha
2. 2nd least population dense country on the planet, after mongolia
3. stable and peaceful
4. looking for foreign investment
5. comparatively large % of white citizens
6. one of the fastest growing economies in africa
or you could life in kenya, aka "malaria, aids, ebola, and warlords, but look at these pretty pictures pls move here pls monies"
df87b4 No.6142
>>6131>>6125Ignore this anon,OP, he's being pig-headed for no reason.
When this nation was chosen as the best candidate for a a settlement we didn't put into consideration SWAPO as well as how bad the agricultural conditions actually were.
Now, I'm willing to put a few hours of research into Kenya to see if it holds up to such research as well, better than wasting 30 years on my life on Namibia just because a Taiwanese paper-maché enthusiast site's board that has been around for a whole couple of weeks and:
>we're in too deep to change, now! df87b4 No.6143
>>6134Kenya isn't Liberia you dimwit, almost everything you mentioned pertains to Kenya as well.
e476f7 No.6148
0065d0 No.6156
>>6101I support moving to Kenya. The fact they are pro America/white and that UN is dying to help them, as well as all other factors mentioned, is huge for our success. The only major problem is shovel ak's going around terrorizing villages, but we could save much more money for defense by not spending millions on equipment just so we can end up shovel dirt around in the desert anyways.
dc9248 No.6161
Sage this /leftypol/ divide and conquer bs
0065d0 No.6165
>>6161I don't think op's saying divide and conquer. In the end, we all go the same way. However, Kenya does seem to be a better choice, providing we can find the illusive white woman to bring with us, and can find a way to defend ourselves.
4ea67f No.6179
>>6101The malaria is a serious problem.
Having to import anti-malaria pills is going to be a pain, an extra expense, and leaves us at the mercy of the sniffers in power in the West.
df87b4 No.6185
>>6179Having to import food the first years is also going to be a bitch.
ede59d No.6186
I say Vermont
>inb4 NSA shill
It's me from the IRC
0065d0 No.6193
>>6179That's a good point, but when you consider the fact we're going to need to invest lots in good medical care regardless of where we go (see the stillbirth/<5 infant mortality rate of most African countries), our final location doesn't matter much on how it does medically before our arrival.
df87b4 No.6197
>>6179Good thing you mentioned it.
The malaria in Kenya is only an issue on some of the coastline, whereas Namibia it's in the while northern half of the nation that isn't a barren wasteland.
df87b4 No.6258
>>6179So we do what Rhodesia did, use mosquito nets and make a Public Service Announcement for people to not leave water out in containers and shit.
0065d0 No.6267
>>6258>mosquito netsUnless we put everyone in fucking mosquito net suits 24/7, people will still get bit by mosquitoes, and our little society of 20 founders max is going to have a hard time taking off living in a giant fucking quarantine.
I say just invest in the medicine and a way to create more ourselves. We'll be saving so much fucking money without buying the shit we'd need to grow food from desert that malaria medicine would seem cheaper than air.
d92cf3 No.6270
>>6258If it really were that simple Malaria wouldn't have killed more people in history than all wars combined.
e476f7 No.6298
>>6270And yet Rhodesia almost stomped it out in the 1950s.
But I agree with
>>6267 I'd rather live chomping on Malaria medicine and form a settlement on what is Africa's great untapped breadbasket than try to force more than sustenance farming in the desert.
28d4f7 No.6301
>>6270You're underestimating the stupidity of niggers.
e476f7 No.6314
Well, looking at maps of malaria, not all of Kenya is fucked.
Here in the orange circle I made is an area relatively free of malaria and by Sibiloi National Park and Lake Turkana, an area with very little population density.
e476f7 No.6315
>>6314There's about 1-4 people per square km.
And much better land than the Skeleton Coast.
e476f7 No.6316
>>6315This actually looks like somewhere where human being can live:
92643c No.6319
>>6186anywhere white, and pro-gun in the US would be better then the angry nigger central part of africa.
0065d0 No.6324
>>6319Honestly, I've been thinking about this. Alaska would undoubtedly be the best choice for lenient gun laws, huge expansion and colonization potential, and an independent separatist ideology. It would take a long time, but would be the best in the US. Plus, it'd be easier to get away with doing, because UN and NATO wouldn't get up in our shit. It would be significantly cheaper and more habitable. Assuming we max out our reproduction and maintain redpill education for generations, Alaska's a huge region we could fill to the brim with redpilled people.
The negatives are that it will take fucking forever, our mission could easily crumble at any time depending on legislation passed by the US, the state is too valuable for the US to let go of, etc.
The nice thing about Kenya is that we can make it look like we're a charity work which will get us more help. Rather than just working with what we have earned collectively, we can get money from rich benefactors and left wingers. Plus, Alaska is being filled with conservative whites already. If we set up a white colony in Kenya, we'll be expanding to places us whites otherwise wouldn't be likely to colonize. I say go for Kenya for this reason alone.
e476f7 No.6326
>>6324Anywhere in the US you WILL be smashed by the feds, it happens all the time when a few White guys decide to innawoods a bit and then ATF all of a sudden starts throwing flashbangs and arrests everyone.
Besides, the Kenyan government is famous for being toothless, the only thing that keeps that nation together is the local police.
We could more or less do our thing by the lake and nobody would give a shit… the only thing is we'd have to be armed to fight back against any warlords if they decide to attack us…
e476f7 No.6327
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Compared to Namibia:
0065d0 No.6329
>>6326Know of any mineral resources in the country?
e476f7 No.6330
0065d0 No.6332
>>6330How about lead, copper, and nickel?
e476f7 No.6333
>>6332No, but there seems to be titanium.
e476f7 No.6335
>>6314I think setting up on the Tana River away from the Malaria infested coast seems to be the best option.
0065d0 No.6336
>>6333Not going to do. Lead is a BIG one. copper and nickel aren't as necessary, but iron and lead are especially essential.
e476f7 No.6337
>>6336Never mind, looks like there's plenty of lead:
http://www.mbendi.com/indy/ming/af/ke/p0005.htmFrom what I'm reading there used to be Draconian anti-mining laws in Kenya, and now they're liberalized it a lot.
We might be able to profit from a mining boom if we go soon enough.
0065d0 No.6338
>>6337I don't see mining as money. I see it as necessary for our survival. For money, my idea is we begin a vaccine development/distribution/manufacturing business. It's also critical for our survival, but a way to get money from all over the world, providing we are productive.
4ea67f No.6348
>>6267>>6298>>6193>>6197My main objection is that, at least initially, we will be utterly dependent upon sniffers in the West for medicine. They could cut us off at any point and we would literally be dead within half a year.
I'm not sure how hard anti-malaria medicine is to make, but you need to consider that once you have malaria, you have it of
life. It
never goes away and so you always need to have access to the medicine.
0065d0 No.6350
>>6348>cut us offHence why we pose as a charitable vaccine program. No reason to cut someone so important off. And if they do, we are capable of producing our own medicine.
4ea67f No.6352
>>6350So now you want to do small scale pharma?
I actually have the education to do that, but it is by no means simple.
92643c No.6358
>>6352you don't.
big pharma
guess who owns them has a penchant for sabotaging up-starts globally.
a8c529 No.6378
0065d0 No.6437
>>6352If we go to Kenya, it is undoubtedly our best chance. Basically, we'd be able to do what the jews have done in the West. I understand how hard it would be, but it is definitely necessary to our survival, and the best plan yet. Unfortunately,
>>6352 is kind of right. It would be hard to get going with the jews' thumb on our back. However, there's a reason malaria is terrible in Africa. There's no money to be made. The only decent malaria medication that hasn't had a natural resistance built up to it yet is mefloquine, which costs $9 a tablet (taken every week). That's a fuckton of money to waste on a bunch of niggers that are just going to die of aids or warlording anyways. Still, politicians like spending however so much money on Africa every year because it makes them look good in their home countries, and helps them earn votes. Basically, we just have to compete with all those bullshit charities that get m(b?)illions each year to blow on commercials and shit for their executives and just barely keep the people they're 'helping' alive so they can make more money. It shouldn't be too hard to nudge a little out of them providing we prove that we get results while they don't. I'm not saying slander them. For god's sake, do not slander them. That would only bring the hammer down on ourselves. However, we should prove our own usefulness, so people see results, vote for the politicians that finance us, and keep the money chute flowing.
For me, all this political shit and planning is the easy shit. The rough part where I'm not nearly qualified enough is actually implementing the funds we receive or making a business plan of sorts to convince the politicians to fund us in the first place. Other than that, I could plan out all the other shit if someone *cough cough*
you*cough cough* were willing to do this shit.
fc3604 No.6442
>>6437All of you tripfags are shills.
Read his post, everyone. What is he saying? What does he sound like? Analyze his post.
He is an arrogant fucktard who only wants to exploit people for what he can get out them. Who else does this?
Kenya is a hellhole.
0065d0 No.6450
>>6442>smart white/irish guy who understands politics>must be jew>whites can't possibly be smart/successfulSince when do jews want to help white people? Goddamn, people like you are the reason whites can't succeed any more. You're literally no different than the niggers who worship lil wayne/kanye west/nigger trash and then degrade Thurgood Marshall because he wasn't "black enough". Btw, didn't Hitler play politics, too? Was he a jew according to your criteria?
I could give two shits about who gets money in this colony. If you've seen my other posts, you'd know I couldn't even possibly go for years. That doesn't mean I can't give you guys great ideas on how to be successful.
Either you are /leftypol/ infiltrating and trying to break us up from the inside by slandering our trust in one another, or you are genuinely overly paranoid to shit, and should an hero. This whole project relies on trust. If you have so little trust in me and others on here, then you are only hurting our ultimate mission.
e476f7 No.6454
>>6450>Either you are /leftypol/ infiltrating and trying to break us up from the inside by slandering our trust in one anotherThis man.
Ignore him and carry on the good fight.
fc3604 No.6456
>>6450I sense fear in this post.
Answer me this, IRISH PRICK
Would someone who really IS an Irish Prick go around portraying themselves that way?
This an anonymous Filipino shadow puppet image board.
I find it interesting that you immediately point the finger back at me, accusing me of being a leftfag shill.
And the point is: trust NO ONE HERE.
WE are creating an ideal. A concept. Concepts are ruined by specifics.
And yes, I am paranoid. But I will not become an hero.
0065d0 No.6466
>>6456>fearHardly. More just trying to defend my posts.
>Would a real Irish Prick portray themselves that way?I guess so, as I am right now. I'm a prick, and I am Irish, so I'm gunna do what I'm gunna do. How about you answer this question. Why would I want to post with a trip and have all my posts associated with a title if there was any risk of getting caught? Like, if I were trying to seep in jew propaganda, and I was caught, you'd all see my trip and everything I've ever said, subliminal jew propaganda or outright statements, and know that it was all bullshit not in your favor. It would be much more efficient for me to post as anonymous, because if one or two of my posts were identified as blatant jew propaganda, then the subliminal posts would go unnoticed and retain their purpose. If anything, posting with a trip decreases my chances of shilling.
You, on the other hand, are posting as anonymous. If I were to catch you as a /leftypol/ jew right now, you could very easily shift to a different thread and continue your shilling. The fact you came here to initiate distrust between me and the community is only hurting our unity, which is evidence you are indeed a jew. My skepticism towards you is entirely justified, as yours would be if I weren't such a huge fucking faggot posting with a trip.
>trust noone hereGenerally true, although you can have more trust in some than others. I deserve slightly more trust than someone like you, for example, because part of my identity has been revealed. Not much, but enough that everything I say relies on what I've said in the past, and what I'll say in the future, where anonymous can't be tracked excluding posts in the same thread, assuming we keep the id feature permanently. Someone who reveals more information than myself deserves even more trust, such as the faggot who is basically doing all the work in Latvia for project Namibia.
>be paranoidSkeptical, not paranoid. Paranoia is irrational fear that leads to finger pointing every which way possible. You shouldn't trust me. I very well could be the FBI for all you know. Does that mean you should finger out every single person on here because there is a
very minor chance they are FBI? No. You should be cautious, but not to the point you are detrimental to our mission.
e476f7 No.6469
>>6466Please dude, don't bite the bait that hard.
0065d0 No.6470
>>6469If I weren't occupying his time here, you know for a fact he'd be posting this same shit in some other thread with someone who might take it seriously.
fc3604 No.6475
>>6466> Why would I want to post with a trip and have all my posts associated with a title if there was any risk of getting caught?Because it's your job to 'get caught'. You need the trips to get credit for your 'work'.
>All your other inchoate, not-as-smart as you think bullshit: Fuck you
>don't trust me, I'm a tripfag Yeah, this is self-evident.
>distrust Why are you trying to make complete strangers trust each other? What are your goals? Tripfags should be trusted less. I have given enough rationale for this.
>. I deserve slightly more trust than someone like you, for example, because part of my identity has been revealed. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH yeah fucking right
Identities can be fabricated faggot. This idea of Namibia, which is only an idea, is a flame that needs fuel. Will you be the lamb for that sacrifice? Or will you burn your previous ideas and simply shill the shit out of Namibia to bring in as many as possible???
0065d0 No.6476
>>6475Lol, kk buddy. Sounds like you really got it all figured out.
202cd2 No.6478
I don't know if Kenya is the holy land but honestly I think we were a bit too quick about finally deciding on Namibia, things we as a community didn't know when it was chosen.
>Second to South Africa in the amount of White people!
Yes, because it used to be part of South Africa before they broke away, they still harbor ill will and have a very negative view of the White man. A dangerous Black Nationalist party is in second place in the polls for government.
>Wow, the south has such little population!
Because it's a desert, the Skeleton Coast region is one of the most inhospitable parts of the world.
>Property is so cheap there!
Because it's a barren wasteland, where even reaching sustenance farming is going to take us years. We'd likely have to import food or risk starving for the short term.
While politically stable and with the southern half of the nation malaria-free are some great pros, I feel we really need to feel out other options.
This is a project that we would be doing for the rest of our lives, just because NAMIBIA WAS CHOSEN isn't a smart idea to have to chain ourselves to a nation where the very first babysteps haven't even been taken.
The Latvian NGO thing can still apply to Kenya, or Botswana or whatever.
The odd religious zeal some posters have about Namibia being paradise really strikes me as odd.
202cd2 No.6480
>>6314If this is really true that the north is Malaria-free then I agree that Kenya is a better option in my opinion.
I really don't want to starve or be Mugabe-ed.
0065d0 No.6481
>>6478>religious zeal for NamibiaProbably has to do with the notion of reclaiming territory lost in the collapse of British rule in Africa. I personally don't feel the romanticism that many others seem to towards South Africa, but if the majority wants to go there, there's nothing we can do. Just keep presenting good points for why we should change our ao and hope that we convince the majority to be sensible.
>>6480It is sketchy at best. I've seen sources saying the north is safe, and sources saying the whole country is filled with malaria and guarded by surrounding states filled with malaria. Either way, I'd rather not die a slow fucking death of malaria, so we'll need to invest in meds to be safe.
e476f7 No.6482
I think the wisest option would be to start with tea production, they are easy to plant and sow, and can be our cash crop in the early hard times.
e476f7 No.6483
>>6482More evidence of agricultural benefits of Kenya in the unpopulated Lake Turkana area.
e476f7 No.6598
652437 No.6606
>>6482>>6483I've known many Africans.
Kenyans are some of the least friendly, most militaristic and aggressive.
Nigerians are some of the friendliest I've ever met, but that country is populated as fuck.
The Kenyan people WILL culturally enrich any farm you guys plan on building there.
e476f7 No.6610
>>6606I don't mind being armed and ready to fight.
Starving in the desert or being BTFOd by the Black Nationalist Party is a bigger issue for me.
Besides Whites live in Kenya in peace.
We won't be seen with hatred like in ex-South African Namibia.
cea236 No.6727
>>6358I belive you, but imma need sorces.
0065d0 No.6806
>>6606Kenya seems pretty decent to me. They obviously aren't *too* militant towards whites, as they don't have a black nationalist party. Obviously, going and starting a white colony will probably change this, though.
1221e7 No.6857
>>6123'corrupt police' could mean "here's $20, leave me alone"
92643c No.6858
>>6727i don't ahve anything specific but you ever notice that big pharma tends to flood a 3rd world nation with free or cheap drugs for charity?
same reason the gov keeps sending them food.
endless cycle.
frankly I'm opposed to going to any nation of niggerland as the target of this.
i want to get away from them, not go to the source.