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9b9075 No.8332

Alright, so I said I would make a thread a week and a half ago, to keep it short, some unexpected things came up but now I have some time to think this through and write it all out.

So, initially, this was a project for "white immigration", and while it was an interesting experiment, it obviously fails: most individuals do not have the determination to drop everything and move to a new continent, one where the majority of people are alien to us. Not to mention the failure in organization and coordination, resulting of course in inability to seize the initiative and build upon the momentum that we had in January. But, it is a lesson learned.

So here is what I am proposing for all those who are still interested: instead of focusing on immigration, let us focus on investment instead. All along, this board has focused on building a settlement, though I am thinking if we bring a new attitude to this-begin a company, corporation, business instead. Something simple where we minimize capital requirments, legal aspects, manpower requirements, etc. The two best options when considering this are, in my opinion at least, moving raw materials, equipment, etc very long distances (by air, sea, or land), or security contracting.

What I was thinking is that if a business or company is established, individuals would not have to permanently move if they do not wish. They could stay in their home countries and simply acquire a visa to come and work, when they are done they will collect their money and go home, choosing to stay is an option as well if the government of whatever country we are operating in allows it of course. This is in essence an establishment of a less-permanent community than what we originally hoped for, however I believe it is a much more realistic prospect than having hundred of people simply immigrate and start farming.

The requirements for buying a farm and maintaining it are massive, as are the manpower requirements. For a transportation company, you can already see that you can operate one with 2-3 people, a small security contractor could operate with only a few people as well, although this would require individuals to have some sort of training or experience (which could also be provided by the company). Since we would be small, it would minimize unnecessary and unforeseeable costs, I think it would be way more efficient, and there would always be room for growth.

Anyways, that is all I will write for now, I hope I was clear enough with my idea. Let me know what you guys think

d17322 No.8334

Do some online organizing to achieve like-minded goals

IRL is a ways off


9b9075 No.8336

>>8334

Of course, it is just something to think about.


9574fa No.8337

>>8332

Capital much ?

Do you have some plan to make this possible, or did you just have the idea ?

(Just wondering 'cause transportation company would require enough to cover the costs of the vehicles, and security company would require trained men as you said, not many sure, but you still need to find them/train them.)


9b9075 No.8338

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>>8337

>Do you have some plan to make this possible, or did you just have the idea ?

It is just something I have been thinking about. I could formulate a plan though, it will take some time and research.

>(Just wondering 'cause transportation company would require enough to cover the costs of the vehicles

I certainly do not have the money to do it on my own, especially after paying for school, rent, etc. Although I have already done the research on vehicle prices in southern Africa, and a very good sized truck will cost us around $70,000 USD, with smaller ones going from 25,000 USD. In other words, perfectly affordable, even for just a few guys. I am not opposed to taking out a loan to get one even. After we have vehicles or a vehicle, we can simply take payments or half payments in advance to cover unforeseen costs and then we are on our way.

> and security company would require trained men as you said, not many sure, but you still need to find them/train them.)

I already have informal experience, soon to be formal. The only way this would work is if we charged extremely competitive prices, so, we might not be special forces oper8tors, but we will do whatever our clients ask for cheap, and stress leniency on the types of jobs we could take and for any CIA reading this thread and keep everything 100% within the law, local and international :^) . Then the question becomes finding a place to work out of, preferably that has relaxed laws on security contracting. I could see us acting as bodyguards or disrupting insurgencies, even training armed forces of other countries. Although this would be harder to pull off, and like you said, our guys would need training and experience.

Anyways, I am going to start researching these two options more in depth.


e50048 No.8339

I'll weigh in tonight. I do agree an investment route might be better, but I don't think the immigration thing should be totally disregarded.


9b9075 No.8340

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>>8339

I believe it should be considered once we have some experience on the continent.

It would be interesting to seasonally employ other /namibia/ns as well if they cannot afford to move full time. Just ideas though.

Immigration costs a lot of money and for it to be worth it we need a large community. I don't think we have the money right now for this…on the other hand, I am sure 3 or 4 of us can pitch in to buy a flatbed, especially if we are going with ones that can be less expensive. More looking around and I have found some that go as low as $15,000 USD.


2ebc2f No.8342

So you are just breaking it down to a more attainable goal, and focusing on that? Would it be in Botswanna, or just in africa in general?

You do still run into the same problem you had before. Lack of research and leadership. The biggest thing is you still need get people over into the continent to scout. I guess to make it work, you would need to take up the leadership role yourself, or find someone like minded.

I do think it might easier to get initial investments that way. But you do need to look into the legal aspects, whether foreigners can own businesses, if you'll be able to broaden into other fields if the company has success, or have to start new ones, etc. I look forward to any news


f17dce No.8344

Thanks for answering.

I guess a plan would be a good thing, but you outlined pretty well so there's no hurry.

About the transportation thing, I'm not really familiar with US salaries, but even 25K USD seems pretty expensive to me.

A loan would be a an option but the cost of immigration and living should be covered too (there's no way you'll find a job immediately with either of your ideas, so in the mean time you run on savings).

>inb4 frenchfag here, 20K USD is the annual minimum salary here, so a truck for 25K sounds to me like we'll need a lot of people to pay it. (Plus maintenance and fuel)


9b9075 No.8345

>>8342

>So you are just breaking it down to a more attainable goal, and focusing on that? Would it be in Botswanna, or just in africa in general?

Yeah, thats what I am trying to do. We had too much on our plate when this started, I think. Not necessarily in Botswana, it could be anywhere in Africa. But Botswana has very lenient policies on business and a very good quality of living so I think it would be a good place to operate out of. That or SA but I am a bit concerned about what is happening in SA with black nationalism and all these killings of foreigners.

>You do still run into the same problem you had before. Lack of research and leadership. The biggest thing is you still need get people over into the continent to scout. I guess to make it work, you would need to take up the leadership role yourself, or find someone like minded.

Yeah that is true. I could organize it, but then people should know that I have my hands full right now got called up to the military and I am honestly not sure when I will have the time to formulate an actual plan let alone carry it out. Once I'm done here I need to re-evaluate what I want to do with my life, and if it is still this then we will do it. On the other hand, this is not my project at all and if someone wants to start their own work then by all means, I will even help them anyway I can, I just think immigration is the wrong way to approach it.

>I do think it might easier to get initial investments that way. But you do need to look into the legal aspects, whether foreigners can own businesses, if you'll be able to broaden into other fields if the company has success, or have to start new ones, etc. I look forward to any news

I have done most of my research on Botswana and Ghana, either way if we create a solid plan and stick with it, I think it can be done, I am prepared just not financially.

>I guess a plan would be a good thing, but you outlined pretty well so there's no hurry.

I am just worried by the time I am able to put it all together that everyone will forget about this and I will be left on my own

>About the transportation thing, I'm not really familiar with US salaries, but even 25K USD seems pretty expensive to me.

Solution is simple: don't get a job that pays minimum wage ;^)

Easier said than done of course, I don't expect anyone to pay for something they cannot afford. In 1 year I will be able to afford it myself, so at the very worst, I will own the entire company, and simply hire you. At the very best, 3-4 of us would own equal portions, this is an ideal situation for me.

>A loan would be a an option but the cost of immigration and living should be covered too (there's no way you'll find a job immediately with either of your ideas, so in the mean time you run on savings).

The money recieved from the successful acquisition of a contract could allow us to cover any unforseen costs. Also, very simply: we will have to live out of pocket until we finish the job. Then, the payment from whatever job we complete should cover all of our costs, and give us a profit, if we are smart about it.

>so a truck for 25K sounds to me like we'll need a lot of people to pay it. (Plus maintenance and fuel)

It is quite a good deal actually, again, worst case scenario I will pay 100% myself.


9b9075 No.8346

>>8344

whoops, second half is for you


f17dce No.8352

>>8344

Well, you answered my questions. I'm looking forward to what'll happen.



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