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No.358[Last 50 Posts]
I have recently claimed this board; the previous owner had a huge power trip that resulted in him killing this board and then to stop maintaining it. If you see any edited posts or other mod activities before the 5th of March, 2015, that was the previous board owner.
I'd like to restore /new/ to what it was like on 4chan's /new/ before it was removed. Just a board to post and discuss news on with as absolute a license on free speech as is possible.
No.360
Identify yourself boardowner are you hotwheelz, kraut, /int/or something else
No.361
Just dropping a post here to boost your IP count, it's good to support small boards.
I like 8chan's /pol/ and /news+/ but it'd be nice to see another politics board without the focus on the incorrect part of the former nor the mandatory news-related system of the latter.
Also, it's harder for shills to shill across multiple boards than it is through just one.
Best of luck with your board, remember to advertise it in appropriate politics communities.
>>360Some background info on you and your experience with image-boards would be nice.
No.362
>>360I'm just a guy who really liked browsing /new/ back in the day.
No.363
>>362This situation is bullshit though I do not like how things are being handled with relation to questions concerning /pol/s moderation
I dislike the mods on /pol/ even making threads saying so on /int/ which was fighting against hotpocket mods themselves
But suddenly finding /pol/ under attack from /int/, hotwheels and others is distressing I had hoped 8chan would have more unity /pol/ has not done anything to other boards to deserve this shitty treatment and posters who otherwise would have gladly come to a board like this will not
Look at what happened when hotwheels took over /pol/ the first time and made news+ hardly anyone posts there
I hope for these issues to be resolved
No.364
>>361I have been here since August this is my first imageboard
No.365
>>361I have no experience as a janitor or mod of any imageboard, forum, anything.
I've been on 4chan since 2005, staying mostly on /n/, /new/ and infrequently posting on many different boards (/ck/, /fit/, /int/, /sp/, /lit/, /b/, /v/, etc).
I really liked arguing and browsing /new/ and I was despondent that after a year of having infinite boards thanks to hotwheels, there was no replacement.
No.366
>>363Well, this board isn't meant as a slap in the face against /pol/. If anything, its m00t's fault originally for removing /new/ and creating /pol/ in its place; its just not the same thing.
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No.368
>>366I can understand
I never knew what /new/ was like obviously but I was very satisfied with 1st exodus /pol/ and then increasingly dissatisfied with the succeeding exoduses until 3rd one almost made it completely unusable its ok now not great but obviously some people still don't like it
What would the rules of this board be and why would they make it better than /pol/?
No.370
>>368I think the rules need to be formed from posting over time or when there's crises and their need becomes apparent. I don't want to impose rules that aren't necessary.
No.371
>>370And I thought that was why /pol/ is forming the way it is now
the first exodus brought over the users smart enough to drop 4chan and then a lot of trash started to come in
I remember once IDs were implemented how many people were caught trying to samefag
Also posters get tired of having cuck posts and people who don't want to participate in the board and just want to try to poke at the board
No.372
/new/sman reporting in
hope this takes off
the /pol/ moderation is fucking abhorrent
No.373
>>371Well, sort of. Most of those rules came in during the 1st exodus, but all the stickies about shills and long list of rules came much later.
No.374
>>373Have to get used to the owner cap
No.375
>>373I only see 4 rules currently and never read the sticky about shills
No.377
you have my IP
No.378
I think we should make a news board board ring
I put this board in the board announcement for /news+/
No.379
This is fantastic news, I was always a bit annoyed that /new/ was taken up by an ass.
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>>358So am I to assume this board allows for anything even tangentially related to current events?
>>361
>Also, it's harder for shills to shill across multiple boards than it is through just one.The idea is you shouldn't have to worry about shills, because there shouldn't be some central narrative to control in the first place. You can't piss in an ocean of piss.
No.382
>>381>So am I to assume this board allows for anything even tangentially related to current events? Yes
No.383
>>378Hotwheels, are you just going to completely fuck over the
>>>/polidicks/ board owner? will you at least allow him back into the rankings when the spam IPs expire?
No.384
>>382Good.
>>383It was fun while it lasted, but /polidicks/ didn't deserve the little life it was given. It's too bad a lot of posts in threads I went to got deleted though.
No.386
May the Force be with you, new Board Owner. Let's dethrone /pol/. I sure hope you guys don't ban my anime reaction images.
No.391
Good luck with this, new Board Owner. I'll do what I can to support.
No.393
Good luck board owner. Those /pol/ mod assholes didn't even let you give a chance to announce the return of /new/.
No.395
>>378what the fuck is a board ring
No.396
Also, good luck man. I'm glad someone (else) stepped up to claim /new/ and try to revive it.
No.398
i like the structure of news+ more than this. it's amazing how well that board runs despite having no moderation at all because of the minimum OP character limit
No.399
also, the big question: do we invite 4chon?
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No.417
Can i post all of my RSS news sources here or is there an OP thread creation limit like on /news+/?
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>>406
>Why
Why not?
No.425
>>417There is no thread creation limit
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>>426
Well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. If it actually does that, then there will be an impetus to do something about it.
Also, /int/ is free to post on here as long as its related to current events.
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>>426
I agree with this. Also, I think that people will just ignore the content of the post and just concentrate on the flags if they disagree with the poster. Plus, anything that keeps /int/ away would be good because it's fucking cancerous.
No.434
>>427/int/ never does that; ever.
I'm dead serious. You will NEVER see an /int/ user talking about current events or indeed much of anything related.
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No.436
>>381Shilling as in advertising, whether is a product or idea, by infiltrating or deceiving, doesn't need a central ideology to subvert. If I'm trying to promote anti-Islam sentiment, for example, I can shill on a board with a multitude of views as well as on one that is 100% communist, for example, I'd just have to adjust my narrative and explore fraction points in each userbase viewpoints.
>>432>>426I'm in favor of keeping the feature, you can just hide your country flag if you don't want to use it and it gives you some insight on the background of who you're talking to.
No.437
I'm really sorry for being a newfag, but I never got to enjoy /new/ before it was removed at halfchan. Can anyone tell me what was different compared to /pol/?
No.439
>>437/pol/ in some sense has a narrative to push or at least it developed to the point where that was the case.
/new/ was more of a thunder dome kind of place where your posts sunk or swam on their own merits and it was actually fun to post about news.
/pol/, especially 8/pol/ is super serious - way more serious than early /pol/ or /new/
No.440
So, we already have /news+/ which is an official board listed at the top of screen just after /b/…and it it barely functions…right now I'm seeing it at 9 posts per hour vs. /pol/s 396…outside of a large rebellion in /pol/ how is /new/ going to get any traction?
I think /news+/ was hobbled from the start by a total post limit per IP of 5; which HW recently lifted, but the damage has been done.
Perhaps if /news+/ was renamed /new/, and some other board rules were modified, to give it a fresh start it would have a chance to become more competitive with /pol/…
No.441
>>440If people start using it, it will get more popular. This isn't meant to replace /pol/ by the way, its meant to replace /new/, which moot killed.
Also, if you check the board announcement, HW and I have created a newsboard group.
No.443
>>439I see. By the way what did /new/-tan look like? I do remember there being one.
No.445
Bumping uniques. I missed /new/ more than anything. I really hope this becomes its equivalent, although it may be difficult as many posters don't remember it.
No.448
>>441Yeah but you seem like a newfag retard who has no idea what the fuck he is doing
No.449
>>448What do you think I should be doing differently?
No.450
>>437>>443>Slovene flagSlovenec, ali proksi?
also it's good that flags are disabled now so us posters from obscure countries won't get lured into circlejerking No.451
>>450>flags are not actually disabledDisable flags please.
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No.462
Bump
No.463
>>450Slovenec, redko obiskujem politične boarde, ker se ne da pogovarjat v /pol/.
I'll disable the flag posting now.
No.464
>>463>you can't have discussions in /pol/Yep, that's why I left /pol/ and sought refuge in /int/. The place then devolved into /s4s/ clone.
No.488
>>453>using strawpoll to make board decisionsNo please don't. Look at /int/…
No.489
>>488I didn't make the decision on that basis, I just wanted to know if it was a vocal minority or not.
No.490
Are you /polidicks/'s owner?
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No.492
>>489Thanks for disabling flags. Maybe this can be a good alternative to the "no fun allowed" /pol/.
No.493
I never visited /new/ before moot killed it, but I really enjoyed the early days of 4/pol/ and hate the paranoia and ideological bias the mods of 8/pol/ have. I just saw a thread over there where the first post called the OP a shill just for posting something not about the Jews. Everyone else saged. Pure orthodoxy.
I'll be favoriting this board. Let us run towards debate, not away from it, laughing all the way. May we continue to be funny and unapologetically free thinking.
No.494
>>493>That second pictureHoly shit, I didn't realize it was
that bad; I just stopped posting/browsing because it because
no fun allowed No.495
>>493/pol/ has turned into SJWs, just on the opposite end of the spectrum. Those mods should be put down.
No.496
>>493/pol/ mod here
>we will always collectively get the blame for the stupid shit that the newest vol did>everyone thinks the entire team is paranoid and anti-free speech because we have one or two retards on the team>in the first few months, people used to say that /pol/'s moderation was good. This faggot singlehandedly undid 5 months of built-up goodwill that had been fostered, in the span of a single weekI'm fucking pissed off. It doesn't help that hotwheels keeps fanning the flames either, even though I understand why he does it.
I like /new/ too by the way, I wish it the best and I'll be sure to lurk here sometimes.
No.497
>>496>it's the new guy's faultUh not really. There's that fag imkamfy who was fired for banning people willy nilly for personal reasons and then the owner brought him back to the /pol/ moderation.
No.499
>>497imkampfy was never fired.you must be thinking of the mod we hired a few months back that turned out to be a gay pedophile from
>>>/raven/. We've really had abysmal luck with finding good mods.
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>>499
>>>/parrot/*, sorry. Whatever that gay bird-themed raid board is. No.505
>>499Why don't you take all the bad mods, and push them somewhere else?
No.506
>>437My only experience was the /new/ on 4chon. It went downhill over time, but in the beginning it was both 100x funnier than 8/pol/, plus it had deeper discussion. If you were making a case for some position, you'd be expected to post solid links and know WTF you were talking about. At the same time, if you wanted to fuck around and make a ridiculous thread or a creative troll persona, nobody really cared. There would be complaints, but that was all part of the joke.
Some took it too far, but overall it was really fun.
>>493>that banMind officially blown.
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>>499
>gay pedophile from a board that has nothing to do with pedophiliaWat.
Explain this a little better, please. What did he even do? What was his volunteer username?
No.508
now i don't have to deal with leftypol mods or pol mods
No.510
>>493>>494>>495>>506>>508If you're going to make this board solely about your anal devastation that you have with /pol/'s moderation it isn't going to be very successful. Learn from the lesson of /polidicks/.
I'm going to use both /pol/ and this board at the same time and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
No.513
>>510This isn't meant to replace /pol/, its meant to replace /new/.
No.515
>>513The people in this thread don't seem to get that though.
No.527
>>513One advantage of /pol/ over /new/ is User IDs. Something to consider.
>>510>implying anyone cares about you No.528
>>505we tend to eventually get rid of mods if they're consistently bad, we've had to do that several times so far
>>506
>Mind officially blown.If it helps at all, the mod who gave it out undid it immediately afterwards and apologized.
>>507His name was Gnocchi, and he was also the mod of
>>>/dipper/ (which has since been nuked to all hell). But right around the time he was demodded, he posted some weird /parrot/ shit in /pol/ with his capcode on, like "this board belongs to /parrot/" or something. It was really strange. Also, one of the global vols outed him as a pedophile, with proof.
>>513yeah, we can definitely coexist.
I think 8chan would be the first *chan to ever simultaneously have both a /pol/ and a /new/
No.530
>>527>One advantage of /pol/ over /new/ is User IDs. Something to consider.Which is completely worthless considering anybody can use proxies and vpns to change their IDs. Sure some idiots get caught samefagging on /gamergate/ or /pol/ but eventually they wise up making the ID system ineffectual. If anything it can be abused to sway opinions or to sockpocket by using different proxies for different IDs
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>>530Also, IDs make it no fun allowed
No.536
>>530We should just have registration. There's no way someone who's interested in samefagging in the first place would take a little extra time to make 2 accounts!
No.542
>>527>muh IDsDon't be a faggot.
No.554
Anyone from 4chon here?
Anyone from 4chon post on news+?
I miss my friends :(
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No.558
It should also be renamed /newb/ as in /new/ +/b/ because it's all shit posted here and no one cares. That being said it's not gonna take off like 90% of the boards on this site but I'll still browse because it's the only I got left to do in my life my poor poor life. Everyday is just another day of sadness reading image boards and trying to thin of funny things to say but never being able to. I wish you all the best and god bless hopefully my friends will be back but well see good luck again and don't forget your here forever ok good luck I love you goodnight
No.559
>>558This isn't a no fun allowed board, there's already a dozen of those.
No.564
Mod confirmed not being able to read
>>559 No.565
>>558We're as active as /leftypol/ and /tv/ in terms of PPH right now
No.568
>>559You're an idiot. /new/ had a few rules back then. It wasn't shitposting central like the newfags want you to believe.
Threads like these would certainly get deleted there:
>>480>>527>>546 No.570
>>568Which /new/? A thread like this would have been against the rules, but moderation was ineffectual on halfchan.
No.571
>>570halfchan /new/ of course. I never bothered with the 4chon one, because it was nothing but tripfaggots circlejerking.
>but moderation was ineffectual on halfchanYes, but that's beside the point. Rules existed there. It wasn't just /b/ with a few news articles.
No.577
Can we post banners in this thread OP?
No.578
>>577Well, even if you can't here OP, have these. 6 million hours in paint later
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No.589
http://plus4chan.org/b/n/some archived stuff
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Pol/Some fallout from /new/
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/NSome history
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Nmore history
http://www.quicksprout.com/the-beginners-guide-to-online-marketing/It may be looked down upon, but I think you may as well given a try. You may not want to follow everything it says, yet it'll probably give you new insight on how to manage things. I just want you to make a meaningful place that attracts people.
I think it's good to look back and remind ourselves how we got here. You might be able to dig more stuff out.
Board Owner, try to structure the board into how the old ideals of /new/ were. Try not to place safety measures (such as IDs, captchas, shill banning, and more) in permanency. Remember, temporary safety measures in justified cases or times and low moderation for long term or longevity. Try not to restrict fun.
Don't favor certain groups by giving them features for an unfair advantage. /gamergate/ and /pol/ have a 15 and 10 added page for threads than the usual 15, meaning /pol/ has 25 and /gamergate/ has 30. Try to sticky things fairly.
On /pol/, certain threads were pinned or stickied for being "quality" such as immense national socialist "the flood comes" like threads.
Try not to bear to heavily on posting history on users because it can lead to certain biases. The stress on shilling can lead one to interpret a posters history as a shill if certain trends are found. It could be banning a person for having different views at different times when it could be possible that the poster just changed his opinion. It could be that having a history of funposting can lead to volunteers exploiting said history to denounce someone as a shill. It can also cause people using different proxies to be called out when it could just be a lurker or other cases of IP differences.
Indeed the emphasis on shills have increased to such a degree that paranoia and blaming/action based on assumption has increased. Perhaps to the point that shilling is considered good if it means pushing the "correct narrative". Perhaps being that "We've been shilled to death so it's right to shill right back at everything". Biases on shilling by ideological identity or opinion can lead to problems.
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>>589You don't have anything to worry about, we're on the same page.
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>>597Also if you want to update it in the futur here is the template I made for it.
No.639
I approve of this. Good 2 be home.
No.683
wait, so what's the difference between news+ and new again?
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>>358
Well, finally.
Dunno if we're past the point of no return. I was one of the anons that left because the moderation kept the /new/ board too moderate. I checked back today because I was banned from posting on 4chan.
haha
ha
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>>386
>tfw you remember a time when 4chan /new/ had more black cocks than it did anime images
/new/ on 4chan rarely had any anime fags (except for tripfags and avatar fags). /n/ was even rarer in the case that it had little anime influence. One of the slower boards really. Since 4chan was mainly anime, the news boards were subsequently spared from anime users- /a/ was more busy trolling video games and cartoons.
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>>370
In all honesty, if there is an influx of new users on this board that lean heavily to the left, there will be a noticeable increase in racial news. The left/right groups will end up duking it out for a long time, so I don't know how you'll moderate that.
It was a bit of a nuisance on 4chan because mods just stopped moderating- they'd rather see what happens when two fringe groups tried to self-moderate a board. It's like having /a/ and /co/ share the same board.
I'm seeing flags on /new/ for some reason, so I'll add this. Back on 2010 /new/, there was a difference between /int/ and /new/, being that /int/ incorporated international culture/news and European trolling. /new/ was majority American (Americans have to have their own board). They were more concerned with ideologies and left/right politics and economics (Keynesian economics; trickle down economics; lol buy gold!). Also news.
I never understood why moot decided to add international flags on /pol/, or why he added optional ideology flags before that. If someone can make a good argument, flags are entirely unnecessary. It kills the venom in arguments; makes the opponent acknowledge the user's dispositions (positive or negative, but the entire argument will devolve either way). /new/ never had flags. It's what makes them so hateful yet amusing in their responses. When you're on /new/, you didn't know what kind of anon you're talking to. You just knew that someone disagreed with you and you didn't like it.
For some reason /new/ would blame the left fags on immigrants from /b/ (back on 2010 4chan, no mentions of reddit or tumblr at this point. tumblr didn't become relevant till the tumblr raid). /b/ was known to be pretty left wing despite not wanting any political affiliation. /new/ was a battleground between /b/-Random, Stormfront, and trolls. As it turns out, /b/'s popularity back in the days did attract opposition. /n/ started out a bit to the left, but due to the nature of the news board, it started leaning right, then it became majority right after moot axed it because they called Obama a nigger. The board held a grudge that lasted into the next reincarnation as /new/.
There's a bunch of other information that I'm forgetting, like the /new/ exodus, the ED censorship, some relevant things like why /r9k/ and /new/ were deleted in favor of /soc/. Theories mostly, but apparently revolves around board histories.
I like to think that people on /pol/ and previous news boards are unconsciously going to end up like Usenet. The end battle will be between the Random and News board.
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>>709
Flags were once enabled on the board. I didn't delete the posts, so there they are.
There's also an OP with an auto-animating gif