/next/ - Infinity Next

>>1775

The graphic designer in me cringes when I see all that wasted space on the right side that's only being occupied by the new thread/reply box. Then again, Josh said that he'd also supply a theme that's basically an exact replica of the default 8chan layout.

Why change everything? Give us the functionality and set up of the existing 8chan and then build up from there.

Also its just come to my attention were going full cuckchan having forced capcha on for every post?! The fuck? Why even. Just trying to post on this fucking board is a pain in the arse.

>>1784

If I have it right, it wont be every post. The captcha is just inline on the post box now, so you don't have to go to a new page to type it in.

IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT

It really is an eyesore, please keep the old layout

Null, you suck as a web designer, i can understand an internal re-write of things, but this just looks like total garbage.

Yeah it's shit.

Not 100% sold on Infinity Next still, and why keep the captcha when it doesn't do shit to prevent spam?

Looks like a smart phone interface.

This doesn't look good at all.

>>1775

Why so much wasted space on the right just to have the Post Box open?

Why not just hide the Post Box and let people open the floating Post Box and move it whereever they want?

You don't have to waste so much space on the right.

Who honestly thought this was a good idea?

>>1797

Yeah, it's like YouTube.

>>1798

I was just thinking that.

ITT: People who think vichan's layout is alright.

No. The current layout is complete shit and all of you are just too used to it so you filter out everything that is shit about it. Infinity-next's front-end is not done yet, that's why the beta is here to change anything that does not work.

I hate it, fuck you Josh.

It's making the catalog unnecessarily more vertical than it has to be, forcing people to scroll down more to view the same amount of threads you would on 8chan's current layout.

>>1802

long*

>>1799

Well, it seems that I'm not alone when it comes to that view point. It has similar flaws to what YT has.

Why did you have to change the layout of it Josh? Nobody fucking asked for a complete redesign of the site, they just wanted it to not fuck up every time when they post.

>>1804

>Current design

>more functionality

Oh please, tell me what's so functional about that shitty navigation bar that we have right now? Or anything else for that matter.

>>1807

unlike infinity next it fucking works without being convoluted and retarded

>crippled person makes crippled website

>replaces with ugly website

What's the likelihood of actually getting this changed to something decent?

>>1809

yfw turns out null is ugly as fuck.

>>1808

No it doesn't, it works for halfchan because the have a limited number of boards, but for 8ch which has board creation it sucks. The current design only favors the popular boards and has shitty board discovery, infinity-next fixes that.

>>1775

I agree with this faggot

>>1812

How does the shit layout in >>1775 fix anything?

>>1812

You don't necessarily have to change the navbar design to increase board discover-ability. There are many ways it could be increased within the current layout.

>>1775

Yeah the right side is blank other than that eyesore of an orange box that won't go away

Can we just keep the old look?

>>1818

look at kappa

https://infinitydev.org/kappa

>>1819

How do you open a thread?

>>1836

i guess you click it and it just goes

>>1837

Click on what? The only way I've been able to open a thread is by clicking on a post number which is annoying if you just want to lurk

>>1839

I didn't say it was well implemented or fun to browse

>>1840

Well that's true, fucking hell this feels so rushed

>>1842

Can't they just use the fucking formatting from here

>>1843

You'd think they would just to ease people into the transition to there

>>1839

>not using the catalog

>>1845

Sometimes I go by pages just to see the last replies to the thread and how far off-topic the thread has got

>>1845

>not having 40 threads open at once waiting for a single (1) to appear

not excited about these cunt captchas everywhere either about to just give the fuck up on posting in general if I need to verify every fucking post I make this is like cuckchan

>>1848

If they start charging just to bypass the captcha then I'm fucking gone

Yeah it looks like shit.

Genuinely one of the worst looking site layouts I've ever fucking seen. Looks like Apple and Google took a shit all over the simplicity of image boards.

Holy shit, Josh, fix your shit.

This layout and lack of features is shit tier. Fucking captcha posting. Niggers in the jungle could design better than this.

Came here to say I don't like the design either.

Why not just make the old designs an option, it's obvious that a lot of people like them.

>captcha posting

fuck off with your halfchan 2.0 shit

THE UI IS FUCKING SHIT

>>1794

>Not 100% sold on Infinity Next still

I'm not sold on it at all. Why can't they just fix 8ch instead of making another broken piece of shit?

>>1882

Seems like it. From what I gather, people want 2 things: more filetype support (mp3, ogg etc.) and for 8chan not to be a fucked mess. As long as I'm not browsing 502chan, I could not give half a shit. All this feature creep WILL destroy the site's codebase yet again.

>>1886

>fix 8ch

Are you implying vichan is fixable

>>1890

You just need to make it visually similar and you've solved half the problem already. There's no reason for it to be this way. I tried to get Mark on board with speaking up but no dice. The way things are going, the site is going to role out and it's going to look too much like shit.

Keep up the good work, Josh. I know everything is a work in progress, and you weren't planning Next to go live this early. UI was always a bit secondary to base functionality throughout the project, which is understandable.

I'll take a less-than-optimal UI over not being able to post or browse at all. I'm sure once things get stable, default themes and per-board CSS will smooth out the appearance. Don't get discouraged.

>>1775

This thread is pointless. I've been saying the same shit for fucking months and never had a solid answer.

The default style needs to be as close to current 8chan as possible.

This new layout must' be opt in.

We had this exact same situation with the board index being removed from the front page and after a few months it had to be changed back.

Ugly as fuck. Don't fix it if it's not broken.

>>1903

>Don't fix it if it's not broken.

This.

Get your head out of your fucking ass, dude. The majority doesn't want this shit. You can cry "muh vocal minority!" all you want, but that won't make it true.

The way you act about something that's supposedly 'easy to change' makes me doubt you'll act any other way about things the user can't change at all.

In short: Stop being such a fucking faggot.

You want to see what the majority actually think?

Try this thread on /v/: >>>/v/6903219

>>1901

Jim ask for the tracking to be added on 2ch, probably on next too.

Jim taking 2ch was bad time for us

>>1909

So in other words, Jim's is probably the one who requested this feature that makes user data vulnerable? Not really surprising, it's why I use a VPN whenever I browse here since I don't trust the guy.

>>1909

Wasn't the guy that did that Hiro?

What tracking?

>>1911

No hiro honored business man, gaijin come in steal site and add tracking, bad time for all.

>all these fucking web 1.0 hipsters

You know what 420chan has? It has a theme that isn't ugly as shit. 8chan's theme is just an uninspired copy of what 4chan has. But hey, since you guys steal reaction pics and memes from 4chan and Krautchan all the time and pretend you made them it's okay right?

>but 4chan was a rip off of 2chan so it's all good!

Worst justification of 2015.

The style could use a lot of work which I assume is coming, but it's not the worst thing I've seen, and I welcome originality, which 8chan has been lacking a lot of.

>I don't want to. I'm not going to mangle my own work to get it looking exactly like what a handful of teenagers threw together over a decade. I've never been adverse to change, but I've always been adverse to shit.

Oh dear.

>>1916

care to explain? Im really curious to why you think 420chan looks bad.

>>1906

Did it die just now? it won't update anymore, but I see new posts in it on the frontpage.

>>1915

Note how he immediately bails from the thread.

I've lost all faith in the guy. Jesus Christ.

>>1912

Fuck off. Hiroyuki is a criminal.

>>1915

There was nothing left to be said. People want me to make Kappa's style a global default and I am not doing that. "Fuck change, make it identical" is an argument I have consistently rejected for 6 months. I have always maintained it will be somewhat different but very easy to customize. That's the bottom line. If for whatever reason that upsets you, there's nothing else I can say to change your mind.

I spent 2 fucking days dealing with shitty Postgres issues to get this ball rolling, only to have people bitch ad nauseum about shit they can change themselves in 30 seconds. Forgive me if I'm not bending over backwards for it.

>>1921

>"Fuck change, make it identical" is an argument I have consistently rejected for 6 months.

Could you stop projecting already? Are you actually upset you can't make a design better than handful of teenagers are better than you?

Fucking hell.

>>1921

>There was nothing left to be said. People want me to make Kappa's style a global default and I am not doing that. "Fuck change, make it identical" is an argument I have consistently rejected for 6 months. I have always maintained it will be somewhat different but very easy to customize. That's the bottom line. If for whatever reason that upsets you, there's nothing else I can say to change your mind.

This.

Is.

Not.

The.

Argument.

I'll grant that some people are outright opposed to change. The majority, however, will accept change if it is necessary.

The current changes to the layout not only fail to add anything but they actively remove information (or make it less accessible).

Even Kappa isn't perfect. I mentioned an issue with the catalog not mentioning number of posts but showingthe fucking name of the OP on a largely anonymous imageboard for example. We could certainly have both but if we are to have only one clearly the former is necessary.

People by and large are not opposing all change they are opposing the change that is currently suggested.

>I spent 2 fucking days dealing with shitty Postgres issues to get this ball rolling, only to have people bitch ad nauseum about shit they can change themselves in 30 seconds. Forgive me if I'm not bending over backwards for it.

Here's a clue nigger. If they can change it in 30 seconds so can you.

There has to be a way to make the current Yotsuba B available. There are going to be themes available anways right?

>>1921

The spergs from /v/ are coming here because you left that thread. If you want to get work done, you should close the tab.

> I'm not going to mangle my own work to get it looking exactly like what a handful of teenagers threw together over a decade. I've never been adverse to change

We want a fucking image board not redchanit. Were not here because we want some web 3.0 wave of the future bullshit. You want to build some magical lala land back end for what ever insane design ideas you have fine, but your being payed up by us at the moment, you have the gall to come begging us for money to keep you fed and your rent payed then you turn around and tell us we cant have an image board because you think your better than some other fucks, fuck your ego, YOTSUBA STYLE IMAGE BOARD NOW!

>>1926

Maybe but the default should be as close to this as possible while adding necessary changes.

We don't need to be static but we do need to change things slowly and only when needed.

As I've said on /v/ fucking repeatedly this is not a problem with the CSS as such.

The css is symptom of the larger problem that most users are not getting a change to give feedback on next. This has only become obvious because recently a large number were forced to look at it while in the past they haven't cared out of laziness.

Even if Josh did give in to even the most extreme and unreasonable demands over the style (i.e. not to change a thing) this problem will remain and the next major change will start the shitstorm all over again.

We must sort out the communication problem.

Again on /v/ I suggest a pinned and locked FAQ thread here which would also help us with the same questions being asked on /next/ every week.

Additionally threads on the major boards asking for feedback (but not with polls) and trialling the new styles for a few weeks etc.

More info (and other anon's suggestions) here: >>>/v/6903219

The point is this will not go away until the underlying problem is addressed. In many ways it is better it has happened now and not before the change was permanent.

>>1921

So you bail from the /v/ thread to continue bitching here?

>>1925

Kappa's isn't anywhere close to perfect either, my issue is with his attitude towards us and how he thinks only his way is the right way.

He's getting paid to fix shit we want fixed, but instead he wants us to do it for free.

>>1921

Josh, just finish stuff for the beta and ignore everyone. You can listen for feedback in the beta once everyone has settled down.

>>1922

>>1924

>>1925

>>1928

>>1931

>>1921

ITT: /v/edditors who have no experience in web design and who can't navigate websites that don't use the old ass Yotsuba layout

Infinity Next looks nice, adjustments are needed to be made but it's snappy and works well.

>>1921

I'm just going to repost what I said here >>>/v/6910292

also what this anon said >>>/v/6910368

>>1931

>Kappa's isn't anywhere close to perfect either

true, kappa's ain't perfect either, I can forgive whoever runs it though as they're not getting paid to do it

>>1927

>>1933

Yesmen please go and stay go.

>>1933

>ITT: /v/edditors who have no experience in web design and who can't navigate websites that don't use the old ass Yotsuba layout

Lets assume that what you've said is true (it isn't but whatever).

/v/ users make up a significant portion of the userbase of 8chan. If they are upset with the new layout then it clearly isn't fulfilling its function.

The argument here is not against change but against unncessary change. Specifically sacrificing functionality for good looks.

The bigger picture argument which none of you are addressing is that there is not sufficient feedback from the average user on the current development of next. Now this isn't Josh's fault entirely as users are going to be too lazy to look into it unless forced.

Trialling a few finished CSSs for a week each then asking for feedback would be a solid start once the beta is done but even before then the problem needs to be worked on.

>>1921

>There was nothing left to be said

For you or for us? In either case, as you and everyone else can see, this isn't the case.

>>1938

>If they are upset with the new layout then it clearly isn't fulfilling its function.

>/v/ users

>upset with something

STOP THE PRESSES

>Specifically sacrificing functionality for good looks.

What functionality is sacrificed? Explain this.

>>1940

Who gives a shit?

>>1943

>8ch

>mods

Please leave, br

>>1942

It's time to gas yourself.

>>1945

>says the e-celeb reaction image poster

>>1946

Its been a while since I've seen damage control this pathetic

Christ.

>>1944

It's becoming obvious that you're simply fanning the fire for the shitstorm when infinitynext will be released.

>>1948

>says the guy damage controlling his autistic butthurt

>>1949

Like I need to fan the fire, the autists do it on their own.

>>1951

>In this very thread I've explained why the kappa catalog (which is improved over the next default) is inferior.

It isn't inferior, though.

>Please remember that the default is even worse.

It isn't, though.

>the users of this website are being ignored.

When all your users do is incompetently babble like idiots and have no intelligent responses why listen?

>Do you remember why the exoduses happened?

Because of overarching and very questionable motives for banning certain discussion about specific topics, not because of a web site redesign that a few autists hate because of reasons they can't even detail competently?

>>1952

>being triggered by website design

>>1954

>It's on my to do list.

>Wasting time with useless shit when there's alternatives already done

How about you stop finding excuses to get people to pay you? Christ man.

>>1956

What alternatives, anon?

Tell us, oh smart one.

>>1957

>/kappa/

>/nunufag/

Here you go. better CSS than josh can make.

>>1956

Front-end is actually missing a lot. That's why I'm not really concerned about this. I'm going to get people to work on their comfy designs and I'm going to keep improving what I feel needs the most work. These issues I am referring to are HTML / actual front-end, stuff that cannot be dealt with using CSS tweaking and greasemonkey.

I'm seriously not concerned. There's shit that needs to get done and it'll get done. I don't know why people are choosing now to freak out over something that has been public and forward facing for months but it's grating. Open beta !== final product. Chill out.

Admittedly I am distracted by this. I keep trying to resolve my final few Postgres issues and keep getting pinged on IRC by people who are angry over design stuff.

>>1955

7chan and 4chon died because of hugboxes, anon. These pics ( >>1940 >>1951 ) and the Jim's reaction toward this fiasco are either showing a massive lack of communication of infinitynext to the mass number of users, or that Jim is forming a group of yesmen around him (i.e. a hugbox)

>>1960

Are backlinks and post hover going to be in day one?

Can you add a filter by user IP also, so you can filter shills site wide.

>>1959

Because a few months ago people weren't told times up boys were moving now, no saving the old site, shipping you off to the new one before its even close to finished.

The main complaint seems to be towards your attitude, you think your design is superior and so refuse to accept any say on the matter to the point of making such a huge mess out of an issue you your self have said is small. People want a Yotsuba style image board, you say no because you think your better than that.

>>1954

>No, I actually agree with criticism regarding the catalog and actions menu. It's on my to do list.

Now see this is what you should be doing.

The reason I say you should stick this in a sticky here on /next/ it to make it clear you do listen.

Evidence of you listening is hidden in obscure threads like this.

99% of users won't bother going on /next/ and 99% of those who do will only go into the sticky.

You could also use this thread to show progress by strikethroughing FAQs that no longer apply.

Seriously consider it.

Nobody is upset at you for having to delay features for hardware issues but you need to make this clear.

And really you need to use a better process to choose which theme will be used as default.

'I like it' isn't going to cut it.

>>1963

>And nunufag

You didn't actually spend a minute checking nunufag did you? He does have boxes and take less space than Josh's default.

C'mon man.

>>1962

I don't see any hugboxing happening in any of those pictures. You're delusional.

>>1964

>Can you add a filter by user IP also, so you can filter shills site wide.

>Israel asking for the IP addresses of users across all the boards

oy vey

>>1965

What part of "it's a default that can be changed" that your autistic little brain doesn't understand?

>>1967

Anon said /kappa/ AND /nunufag/ with the implication both used the same catalog.

And /nunufag/'s catalog looks the absolute worse, even more so than Yotsuba. How the fuck does extending the boxes down the Y axis take up less space?

>>1968

I point you back here

>>1951

>why dont you just use kappa as the default then?

>its disgusting

>i like mine more

>>1968

>I don't see any hugboxing happening in any of those pictures. You're delusional.

he fled to the IRC chat. How do you not understand this?

>>1969

The shorter X axis makes it take less space than kappa.

>with the implication both used the same catalog

I want the yesman to fuck off.

>>1959

>I'm seriously not concerned. There's shit that needs to get done and it'll get done. I don't know why people are choosing now to freak out over something that has been public and forward facing for months but it's grating. Open beta !== final product. Chill out.

/v/ saw it and /next/ is not really reaching the entirety of 8chan. They haven't seen it for months and don't care to hunt it out. Users are lazy I'm afraid.

The issue then becomes one of them feeling you aren't listening to feedback. Given time to calm down I think you really just have an issue with wording your responses in a rather inflammatory manner (and getting frustrated yourself). That's fair enough and true of most programmers in my experience.

But you really need to consider addressing this feedback problem.

In the long term it's better this has happened now and not when there was no going back.

Even if you somehow please everyone with this css shit (you won't) this will happen again because people are not coming along to see infinity willingly. This might be their fault but I'm afraid it's going to be your problem.

>>1951

What I mean is this:

What do you mean by 'I like mine more'?

Do you literally just mean you prefer it or that you think it has some advantages due to its design?

If the former then good luck to you. If the latter you need to explain this more carefully.

>>1968

instead of continuing to gather feedback about infinitynext on the /v/ thread, he left to oversee discussion of infinitynext on this board and an IRC channel, where there is a lesser number of people and therefor, a smaller sample of opinion. I can understand it being hard to get proper feedback from a site like this, as the majority of people speak in a brash tone, but that dosen't mean that you should just write off the large criticism coming from the users of the site as a bunch of angry teenagers.

>>1975

yes.

>>1975

Why not go over there and figure out for yourself?

https://infinitydev.org/

looks fine, though not great, but im sure if everyone stopped complaining and instead starting doing some concept art or mock ups or suggestions, it would look a lot better. clearly UI design is not his forte, but a large community of people solving the problem together can easily fix that.

>>1975

This type of thing could be answered with an FAQ thread.

>>1978

>UI design is not his forte, but a large community of people solving the problem together can easily fix that.

But would their suggestions be accepted?

This is already what is happening on kappa and nunu more or less.

>>1970

And he's within his very right to do so. /kappa/'s is shit too, why would you want that ugly ass mess of an imageboard design?

>>1971

>fled

>still here in the thread

>The shorter X axis makes it take less space than kappa.

No it doesn't because now I have to scroll down more to see other threads. In fact let's look at it objectively.

>number of threads visible without scrolling and normal page zoom on /nunufag/'s catalog: 9

>number on default : 12

Now /kappa/ and yotsuba both allow more threads visible than the default, with /kappa/ at 15 and yotsuba at 24. The default simply needs smaller text and bounded boxes to fit in more threads, and some adjustments to where the catalog actually starts, but is still a good catalog to use since the images are large, threads easily seen with their opening text.

>>1978

See this guy gets it: None of you fags have even tried to make mock ups or anything. All you guys do is cry and shout "I WANT /kappa/ EVEN THOUGH /kappa/ ITSELF WAS UNFINISHED AND HAD ISSUES"

>>1980

Why do you keep clinging to /kappa/ and /nunufag/ so much?

>>1982

Because they're trying to replicate the current 8ch theme and they aren't absolutely shit?

You're not trying to argue fairly, are you? Fucking faggot.

>>1983

>Because they're trying to replicate the current 8ch theme

They don't do it well

> they aren't absolutely shit?

They are absolutely shit

>>1981

>See this guy gets it: None of you fags have even tried to make mock ups or anything. All you guys do is cry and shout "I WANT /kappa/ EVEN THOUGH /kappa/ ITSELF WAS UNFINISHED AND HAD ISSUES"

But Josh has said he will be using his as the default come what may.

I'll keep saying that this issue is one of principle as much as it is the practical issue of css.

>>1982

They aren't perfect either nigger. The argument here is for the new default css to be as close to the old one as possible but with whatever changes actually bring requested new features.

Right or wrong this is the opinion of the majority of users (hence the shitstorm on /v/) and therefore should be listened to.

Nobody wants his theme deleted etc we want a similar theme to the current one with (only) the changes that people actually want.

I'll copy that post from /v/:

If we contracted Josh to build us a 100 blue cars and he gave us 100 pink ones and told us to paint them we'd be upset.

If he gave us 100 blue cars with an option for joey the faggot to get a pink one instead we'd all be happy.

>>1982

They are far from perfect, hopefully one of them will evolve into a near perfect copy of what we have.

>>1984

And again /kappa/ and /nunufag/ are just the current examples. Substitute 'theme that is very similar to vichan but still adds new features based on community feedback' and you're there. That's just not as clear.

There was also the larger issue of feedback which still isn't addressed.

I'll grant my suggestions for solving it may not have been perfect but other anons had ideas.

One suggested trialling a bunch of the themes (Josh's included) for a few days each then asking for opinions. That would help. Maybe make this an opt-in for each BO.

>>1981

>implying Josh isn't too far up his own rectum to listen to anything

Just make it look like fucking Yotsuba B. Problem would be fucking solved, except that Josh is too much of a self-absorbed faggot to realize no one wants his eye cancer inducing layout.

>>1990

Yotsuba B is eye cancer inducing

Also this webm from /v/. >>>/v/6911423

Even if you could get everyone on 8chan to vote in a poll I don't think it'd help.

So feedback is good but polls are not. It'll still have to be a judgement call from Josh but hopefully one that pleases most people.

inifinity next is gimped

i need some edit post function to alter rule stickies atleast. i dont care much about modifying peoples posts but the edit post function should be made asap.

>>1993

I don't think po.al has this problem

>>1995

Nigger I've manually fucked with it.

Clear cookies and change IPs. It might be slightly harder to do automatically and to such a huge degree but it can be done.

Honestly there is just no way to stop it. Same as how they've never been able to permanently ban someone from viyda. Even a hardware ban can be circumvented.

I point out again that even modern democracies can't stop voting fraud completely and they have a much easier time of it.

>All those people bitching about visual fucking layout, while the very point of INext's existence is to change and fix the core engine of the site, visuals being just a secondary matter

your stupidity sickens me

>>1997

The front end/user interface being what 99.9% of users will care about and interact with is hardly a secondary matter. You could have a god tier back end if it looks like arse and no one wants to use it then its fucking useless now isnt it.

INFINITY NEXT IS REDDIT

>>1999

>The front end/user interface being what 99.9% of users will care about and interact

Well gee, I wonder why are we rushing the development of Next like maniacs

I mean, nobody is complaining about the constant posting errors, total site failures and "flood detected" popups, we are all in a state of constant bliss because we have a nice visual layout.

>>1998

Why do you think it's not broken? It's fucking archaic piece of shit that you just gotten used to.

>>2001

This. Swallow your fucking pride, Josh-boy.

>>1997

It's the principle of the matter faggot.

The feeling is that the users should choose what is the default particularly given the fact it will take '30 seconds' to change.

>>2007

People aren't opposed to infinity next they're opposed to the current design and the attitude towards feedback on it.

Nice strawman.

Also some anon posted feedback on all the interfaces:

>>>/v/6911887

This is the type of shit we should be seeing more often, and indeed would see more often, if we had a proper system for feedback.

>>2011

Still not the complaint but thanks for trying.

>>2013

That waste of space and the static reply box are the only things that really rub me the wrong way. Then again, Josh has probably heard these complaints over and over in the past months and now that the beta is coming soon, more people are coming out of the woodwork making the same complaints as if it's brand new information.

>>2003

Go on then. Explain why his design is so much better than the layout we've used for ages.

>>2013

>can't move the reply box

>entire post layout has to be smaller because of this

Yeah, it's so much better.

>>2016

I'll add in what was replied to this on /v/ too (shit is complicated between two boards):

>wasted space for an OPEN and ACTIONS button on top of EACH thread for people who lack a right mouse button

I'm guessing this is so we don't have to have a different interface for mobile and desktops.

Which is fucking stupid but the standard idea in idiotic design circles is both interfaces should 'converge' (Ubuntu and to a degree Windows are doing this).

Consider an analogy with boats. Both a boat and a car may have the same underlying backend (internal combustion engine of some sort). They, however, have very different interfaces (albiet with some similarities where possible). This is logical and nobody would question it.

We have the same situation with tablets and dekstops. They should not have the same interface even if they have the same backend.

JOSH DELETE THIS OBVIOUS SHILL THREAD

>>2015

>Go on then. Explain why his design is so much better than the layout we've used for ages.

I said that our current design is shit, not that I-next's design is much better. It's not done for one thing.

>>2016

Some of those points is because the site is not done yet. We are moving to infinity-next because we can't wait anymore, 8ch is falling apart.

>>2018

shill has lost all meaning, hasn't it

I don't see anyone advertising things here while pretending to be a consumer

>>2016

Just read that the changed tags for redtexting are because of the new Markdown system, I can get around that since it'll bring new header sizes, although a legacy option like for [spoiler] would be appreciated.

>>2019

>Some of those points is because the site is not done yet. We are moving to infinity-next because we can't wait anymore, 8ch is falling apart.

Is it that urgent? The current software is drek, I admit, but from my perspective it's not like 8chan is going to implode any time soon.

>>2021

>Is it that urgent? The current software is drek, I admit, but from my perspective it's not like 8chan is going to implode any time soon.

It is. Have you noticed all the posting and other errors that have been happening recently? It's only going to get worse and there's nothing hotwheels can do to fix them on 8ch's code because its a huge mess. Not to mention the absolutely annoying 24h captcha warning that comes after trying to post instead of filling it as soon as 24h run out.

>>2023

Or to be more clear is it possible to have the current shit for spoilers etc work with the new system?

Obviously the hugetext etc shit at the bottom need not work.

If this has already done it's something people would appreciate knowing.

i like how it look fuck you guys

>>2026

Fuck off, spic.

>>2027

you first curry nigger

>>2028

That would be Dixiefag, spic. You have to go back.

I honestly think the way Josh and Hotwheels are handling this will lead to a drop in users. Change is a hard thing to get people behind. By acting like a fucking child, Josh has made me worried about any future the community has. Keeps talking about how the backend has priority (as it should) but can't think to delegate the front end to someone else. I kind of hope that this shit kills INs donations, you have two powerhungry dicks that are ignoring their customers criticisms and suggestions while blurting out "but my backend" and "but we're rushed" or "its not finished". You're pissing off your consumers, not a healthy business practice.

I've tried it quickly, it's eh usable. But I hope that UI development will continue.

Also my gripe is that SJIS posting doesn't work there yet.

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>>2035

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>>2036

I'll go try it. I tried with the []aa tags.

Thanks

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>>2039

This is good though, I fucking hate it when I fail the captcha and I have to wait until my .webms upload again.

>tfw I was pretending to be retarded

>josh TOOK IT SERIOUSLY

HOLY FUCK

>>2090

Try the Q&A sticky.

>>2032

>>1921

Honestly in terms of this whole CSS thing, my best bet would be for the beta to run default CSS for every available option currently for one week each as the scripted default (and any others submitted in later) and then 1 month or so before launch do a sitevote to decide which CSS people would prefer as the default while having optional CSS types be available.

Would that be a better idea?

>>2090

Because you open a thread to view it

Duh

>>1800

>>1807

>>1812

>this willing to white knight Infinity Never

Holy shit, are you doing this for free or are you getting paid to lie, claim regular, real Chan layouts are awful while shilling this one. Are you even a chan user?

>>1874

>>1875

>sitewide per-post forced captcha

>now the shitty r9k bot

>permanent storage of posts and threads

PEOPLE DONATED MONEY FOR THIS

PEOPLE DONATED MONEY FOR A 4CHAN OR WORSE EXPERIENCE

>>1940

Jesus fucking christ. Null, Josh, N-tech, faggot, you are being paid to do a job. No wonder you can't hack it at a real job, you think the people paying you are paying you to just do what the fuck you want. The reality is those who pay you are your boss, their word is law. How the fuck people still pay this guy to ignore any and all feedback that isn't virtual fellatio is beyond me.

>>1969

>listing two alternatives

>this means both use the same

MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL

>>2011

>current year meme

>you goys can't complain about this unless you do better

It's current year anon, why are you still using retarded gamefaqs-tier arguments to white knight?

>>1963

That first image looks fucking terrible. The second image is too visually busy but at least it's not floating images on whitespace.

>chans ded because defaulty of changeable ui is ugly

8chan's current servers are falling apart, going down only to come back worse. if having ugly ui is all you care about then your opinion is shit. i rather servers not go down in fire rather than have good ui

>>1962

>4chon died because of hugboxes, anon

Not really, if anything it became one after most of the users were driven away. Mostly because moot decided to bring back /r9k/ and /new/ as /pol/. All was left was some robots, tripfags and shit stirring trolls on 4chon.

>>1962

>7chan died because of hugboxes

Not at all. What "killed" 7chan (the boards that died anyway, including /vg/) was banning people for shit like using quote arrows incorrectly or admitting they were from niggertits. It was the elitism that made the population that "got it" slowly dwindle away, rarely replaced by new users.

>>2184

>(one)

>>1963

kappa is better, fuck the boxes

>>2222

>everytime

Fuck this. Fuck whoever made this and thought it actually looked better than what we have. Fuck their mother for birthing them and allowing them to spend their visual cancer. And fuck Hotwheels for just sitting back and letting it happen.

Infinity next's design's so fucking awful it's damn near unusable.

>>2242

>>2230

it's not finished....

>>2021

>it's not like 8chan is going to implode any time soon

That's seriously wrong though, the site is already imploding. I wouldn't be surprised to wake up tomorrow and the site's just dead.

>>2039

>>2052

Yeah this is actually a nice feature, apparently if your post fails the server actually holds the file in its local cache to give you another chance to submit.

>>1978

I agree, we need less bitching and more working on CSS. Make something more finished than /kappa/ and then shove it in HW's face, then we'll get our vintage default.

>>2253

>b-but it's a beta

>>2418

The beta isn't out yet.

Hi everyone, the community rejects any changes. We will be keeping this current UI, thank you for your concern.

>>1583

Jk xD

It looks like absolute shit. Whats wrong with yotsuba? If it doesnt end up the default theme then im fucking done with imageboards. Too many dissapointments in the last few years.

Maybe I'll join reddit or facebook and become a normalfag.

>>2486

>my favorite site resembles X and I hate it!

>I'm going to ram 80 tonnes of X into my asshole instead, that'll show them!

>>1779

fucking A

>>1933

>Infinity Next looks nice, adjustments are needed to be made but it's snappy and works well.

What if said it bland, uninspired, and the difference in the ease of use is same, to less, then what? That is another opinion, like yours, but it is one that shared by many more. I would say that you could claim that you know what is best for us, but the product has already spoke for itself.

>>2435

Oh look, nothing changed.

If this is even close to what we're going to have when the forced migration happens, a good chunk of users will fuck off and never come back.

CSS on NEXT continues to be complete dogshit. Hope Hotwheels fixes it before we migrate.

Looks like hot garbage.

>>2801

>implying that the web 2.0 layout shouldn't be holocausted

>implying that they had to make such a layout instead of retaining the normal non-shit one

Are you faggots fucking brain dead? It has been said numerous times that the front-end is unfinished and that they will make it like 8chan is now. Holy fucking christ you faggots need to do the rest of the site a favor and kill yourselves.

>>2806

> they will make it like 8chan is now.

Including the image thumbnails which are 55 px smaller in beta? Most of the other stuff can be changed in CSS (I think).

>>2841

god you fucking people bitch that thumbnails are too big and then you bitch that they're too small.

the thumbnails are 250px but compressed in the browser so they are full res at 125px in mobile.

DON"T WORRY, MAN!!!!!!!!

JOSH THE FUCKING STUPID ANNOYING STUBBORN COCKSUCKER WILL NOT FUCKING CHANGE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT THE USERS WANT AT ALL, ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS HIS STUPID FUCKING IRC FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM NOT A FUCKING INT* GOON!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM JUST SO FUCKING ANGRY JOSH IS DOING THIS FUCKING SHIT; FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, GO FUCK SOME CHILDREN JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1856

SOME NOTES

>no padding for post attachment class so everything goes top0 left0.

!use col xs offset!

>post action btn appends to post contents.

>Watch it go up and down.

!this should go top0 left0 instead!

>text over flow.

!clearfix!

>instant card transition.

!use a .3 second delay!

> uniform box shadows.

!make the bottom one long and lose the top one!

>No update btn

Jeez, can't you guys keep your fucking cool about layout issues? It's a minor thing. Even if Josh don't fix it, customs css will soon pop up.

>>3369

> don't worry guys, we adhere to the Bethesda Business Model ;)

Josh, just wanted to know we really appreciate all the effort you put in

Just ignore these whiny entitled cunts.

>take money to do a job

>"omg stop stressing me"

>"omg stop criticizing my stuff GOD"

>"why do people not accept everything i do as perfect?!?!"

>"why are you holding me up to a certain standard!?!?"

Hotwheels doesn't give a fuck anymore and only listens to his IRC buddies. Funny how I used to call /ints/ Goons and now I'm starting to think they were right.

Also nice to see the administration/moderation cocksleeves sucking up to anyone with any hint of authority on the website just like on Reddit.

>>3410

give a rest fag.

the histronics wreck every meta discussion not matter how right or wrong josh is.

hiroyuki gets less shit for infecting users with malware on 4chan meanwhile on 8chan it's the end of the world because some shitty firefox fork doesn't work right.

https://userstyles.org/

>>1797

This. I fucking hate the new post box. Make it like it is here on 8chan.

>>1921

Josh, I really hope it actually is easy to fix. First thing I want to do is get the quick reply box back to normal and not waste a shitload of screenspace on the right. Then I plan making my own CSS.

Hey Josh I just thought of a feature I want for Next... a kind of built in Down Them All that lets you download every file in a thread from a single click within a dropdown menu of the OP post.

Then I won't need the DTA extension I use in firefux anymore.

NOBODY WANTS NEXT

NOBODY

>>1812

The bar should be used for favorites, rather than "discovery". In that respect, Infinity's bar is perfect.

It needs to be minimal like it is now, rather than this artsy web3.0 bullshit.

>>1975

I'm more interested in knowing if there will be a dice rolling system like with 8chan. I couldn't find one on the beta and the lack of a dice rolling system would really fuck up my threads.

>>3416

That's a great idea, or have something that directly works with DTA, either/or

This has been suggested before and is on the long feature request list, which is usually secondary to feature parity requirements.

>>3416

It would probably have to be a ZIP file.

>>1775

>i am a retarded champ

who retarded champ here?

>>3839

The already tiny user base will shrink even more as people fuck off to some other chan that isn't utter shit.

come to finalchan goy, we need you.

http://finalchan.net/

>>3880

Why can't users create their own boards? You're advertising on 8chan, not 4chan. We don't beg hotpockets to make boards for us. Topic constringement is a passive form of censorship. Also, why is there no SSL? Do you like people eavesdropping on your chan habits? You talk so much about privacy on your site but you have forgotten the absolute most basic component to have it.

>>3930

come to endchan.xyz /pol/ is there and you can make your own boards.

>>2031

>I honestly think the way Josh and Hotwheels are handling this will lead to a drop in users

if the owners of the boards i use don't change it to kappa within a day i'm fucking done

>>3351

>HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT THE USERS WANT AT ALL, ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS HIS STUPID FUCKING IRC FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't donate for this and I feel like demanding a refund.

>>3411

>because some shitty firefox fork doesn't work right.

Oh that's right I won't even be able to USE THE GODDAMN SITE because of how much of a worthless nitwit the dev is.

Guess this really IS it for 8chan, huh?

this catalog is 7 posts across on 1400 pixel wide screen

beta catalog is 5 posts across on this same screen.

on my 1024 pixel wide screen normal 8chan catalog fits 6 posts. beta catalog is an atrocious 4 posts wide with enough padding on both sides to make room for a 5th if there were no stupid fucking wasted space

speaking of wasted space the next theme is literally 70% white screen it looks like its made for a fucking phone.

>>3988

Oh god no. That place is suspicious as fuck right now

>>3988

This, endchan is the biggest bunker atm

We shouldn't split the community

>>3988

It was great until the owner let IRCfags get a hold of it.