/next/ - Infinity Next

8chan already has a site wide captcha, it's just only required every 24 hours

Lemme guess, you were just pretending to be a fucking retard?

>>1821

I know, and its useless, it does not prevent spam bot attacks.

I'm not an /ints/ shill but look at their board: that's literal proof that if someone really wanted to fuck our shit up, some pussified cuckptcha isn't going to do jack shit, it requires a strong administrator banning the fuck out of assholes

>I'm not an /ints/ shill but look at their board

Are you fucking stupid?

They've disabled all anti-spam protections because anti-spam protection is "rulecuckery" and refuse the ban the spammer, who uses only a single IP address. There are multiple layers of spam protection, one captcha every 24 hours eliminates 99% of bot spam that permeates the web.

>>1883

Sitewide catpcha is still a thing and does nothing against Bui's botnet. But tell me more how site-wide per-post captcha forcing is a good thing because you have donator's regret.

>>2176

>does nothing against Bui's botnet

Bui isn't all the bot spam that exists. There's much more bot spam on the web that just crawls along and posts shit all over the boards, and it's all eliminated with one captcha every 24 hours.

/ints/ could easily deal with the bot spam that's going on but refuses not to. They refuse to moderate their own board and turn on the anti-spam features, as that would be "rulecuckery."

You're fucking retarded, end of conversation.

>>2194

you fags have stockholm syndrome or something. you keep giving your liberties away for some temporary security kid

>>1867

>I'm not an /ints/ shill but look at their board: that's literal proof

...that /ints/ are fucking retarded and deliberately turned off all their anti-spam settings? Yeah that works.

>gives me dat or i leave.

>if it does, I'm leaving and will never come back.

Bye.

I've explained this a million times. I will explain it one more time. I will use this post every time I have to explain it again.

It is impossible to operate a website in the year 2015 without a Turing test.

The only reason Bui isn't slamming 8chan with the Hola botnet right now is because of the global captcha.

If we turned it off for even a second there'd be global spam in the range of hundreds of posts an hour. 8chan would crash. We would not have a website.

I have simplified the captcha, am experimenting with reducing requirements for them, and will continue to improve it.

But it has to exist. In some form. It can not not exist.

There is no way around this. This is how it is. Bots are so plentiful and easy to make it is impossible not to have a Turing test.

If you can think of a way to have a website operate without a Captcha your idea is worth billions of dollars and you should probably stop lurking 8chan and go fucking make it.

There are entire teams of anti-spam engineers working for trillion dollar multinational corporations who cannot stop the practice. You are not smarter than them. I am not smarter than them. That's why there's a captcha, just like on every other site in the entire fucking world. Even Google asks for a captcha if you're using Tor every time you make a search.

Any alternatives to a captcha violate your privacy.

Name one website that doesn't have a form of human authentication. You have two-step authentications, the google reCaptcha will check your Google account, 4chan requires you to post on domestic IPs or buy a pass which is then tied to every post you ever make. Forums usually require some form of authentication and then you have an identity.

You have no alternatives. This is how the web works. Deal with it.

josh is lying to you

They have the capacity to stop botspam without the captcha. In fact they did so for many months. There was even a global rule against botspam.

They changed the rule once bui started spamming /ints/ because of their hatred and obsession with the secretive goon hacker collective. If they wanted to they could easily stop botspam using their own powers but instead they force the captcha on the userbase as an alternative.

This way /ints/ can get spammed without totally killing the site. Instead it is left in a terribly slow state, and the users are forced to type in a captcha to post (with the captcha information being forwarded to google).

It's a shame, and users should demand that josh tell the truth.

>>2277

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

>they could easily stop botspam using their own powers

Yes sure, have fun banning 100 people per minute. When it comes to speed and raw power, bots always win.

>captcha information being forwarded to google

Even if it was google's captcha, what information could they possible get from the captcha that they cannot get from the post itself?

You cannot disable google in 8chan because 8chan does not use google for the captcha.

>>2278

"the majority of the botspam is coming from one IP"

t. josh

>>1867

Here's an idea, make 8chan a members-only paid site like SA.

that's sarcasm btw

>>2284

fuck you Dud

>>2267

OK

but how did 8chan exist for so long without a captcha? What changed?

>>2305

Obviously the site got more popular and with that also gained more people that want to attack the site. Same reason any big website requires a user account now. You have to put some sort of deterrent in place or your site will get raped by spam if it gains any sort of popularity whatsoever. It is simple to create a spam script. It is even more simple to setup a bunch of virtual machines with proxies to run that script forever if there is nothing to stop you from doing it. I could cripple 8chan myself most likely if there was nothing stopping me.

minor inconvenience kills bot spam and slows down people trying to shit up a thread

seems good to me.

>>2277

This is the truth. Paranoia and complete technical incompetence is a potent combination that I have no cure for, but I do have a cure for bots.

>>2267

>Supposed to explain that the captcha isn't for every post and only every 24 hours

>Tells confused person to fuck off instead

DIPLOMACY GENIUS, JOSH!

>>2267

>Name one website that doesn't have a form of human authentication. You have two-step authentications, the google reCaptcha will check your Google account, 4chan requires you to post on domestic IPs or buy a pass which is then tied to every post you ever make. Forums usually require some form of authentication and then you have an identity.

Isn't infinity-next going to be handling public keys for post signing? That entails some sort of existing alternative identity system, does it not? Granted, I don't have the slightest clue how that's going to work since I haven't seen it in use on infinitydev.org, but nunu says it's coming in >>>/operate/42708 and I'd imagine that whatever method you're using to verify signatures could be extended to make captcha exceptions for posts signed by certain keys or something. You might not even need to involve volunteers in the system if you can check a public key's web of trust; Bui's public key and captcha exception could be revoked if he spammed /kiwi/ with posts signed with it.

Oh, and remember roles? There's another existing identity system. For /cow/, I imagine I could create a role called "beef cream guys" to which verified #ncr lurkers with dark hair are added so that they don't need to do the Turing test.

>>2176

Bans don't prevent posting.

IDs don't prevent samefagging.

Captchas don't prevent spam.

All three of these are barbed wire on the top of a fence. They're discouragement, not the end-all-be-all solution. A minor discouragement will negate the majority of whatever the issue is, whether the issue is fence jumping or rule breaking.

I WILL NOT USE NEXT IF IT HAS POST TO POST CAPTCHAS

"24hr" (more like whenever the fuck it wants) captchas are useless

>>2278

>Yes sure, have fun banning 100 people per minute

>>2267

>Name one website that doesn't have a form of human authentication.

every fucking chan before you stupid faggots started pretending you were a part of this internet

after your post I'm sure to never use next, fuck off you datamining cunt

>>2566

goodbye

>>2194

Yeah you're right the captcha totally eliminated the CP spam that gets posted regularly everyday

Oh wait you're a fucking dipshit

>all these complaints without proposing any real solution

seriously, your idea worth a lot of money.

>>2573

Those people are writing captchas just like you. They're not bots. A little korean child fucker is using the same hands he uses to fuck children with to write out the solution to those captchas. The captcha works: it weeds out bots. He isn't a bot.

>>2568

>How is a custom built, opensource captcha datamining?

>How is an implemented data logging mechanism datamining?:^)

>>2582

>It stops the bots

>Spammers aren't bots

>It doesn't stop them but we need it anyway :^)

>>2586

>I want bots spamming unabated instead of humans that can get bored or tired of doing the same thing repeatedly.

Found the retard.

The majority of the CP spam is directed at the /aus/ board for some reason.

>>2597

i wonder why

>>2593

>Name one website that doesn't have a form of human authentication.

But most websites are full of disgusting normalfags who are ok with the loss of their data and freedom. While of course Hotwheels has tried to even out the playing field here by advertising on leddit, in the hopes that they would come like Somalians to Sweden, people still care about that sort of shit.