1c8f6b No.729
By the end of this week the entire ban system will be overhauled to include:
- Binary IP storage (IPv4&IPv6 Support)
- Range bans
- BANNED! page with table showing all bans
- Reports (local&individual)
- Report account association (opt-in)
- Board and site config for custom report windows
- Ban appeals
- Ban appeal management
- Report and appeal notifications for staff.
get hype for the hotpockets
270291 No.730
Good job
(signing is broken since I still haven't installed php-gpg...)
9e161c No.732
>>731
Josh, what's up with those window control like buttons on the reply widget ?
1c8f6b No.733
>>732
Soon-to-be close/expand/hide options. Expanded view would look like pic related, but better. I did this in 30 seconds just now to give you an example.
It would feature more stuff we couldn't ordinarily fit into the post form, like a Preview tab.
9e161c No.734
>>733
Nice. Thanks for the clarification and good luck on your work.
f5248b No.735
dank and ebin
truly appreciated
0d14a3 No.736
Very nice. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to be shitposting on the new software.
1c8f6b No.741
I'm making a small tweak to how board reports are displayed, most users wont notice this though.
If you are a global moderator, currently, it is impossible to make use of the "Board Reports" page because it shows all reports for all boards, including those you are not responsible for. I'm changing the report display system to show only board reports you are responsible for (unless you change a filter).
So, if I ...
- Am a global volunteer or admin
- Own /next/
- Do NOT own any other board
And there are ...
- 5 global reports
- 1 report for /next/
- 1000 reports for all other boards
I'd only see those first 6 reports.
"Dismiss All" is also going to only apply to visible reports (so if I dismiss all IP reports it won't affect other boards, unless you're viewing non-jurisdictional reports).
Also, I will be introducing a much-requested feature to hide posts when promoting them to global status so CP can be dealt with properly.
1c8f6b No.742
btw you can now view report status after submitting it.
this is done one of two ways:
1) Have the same IP as the reporter.
2) Associate the report with your account and view it while signed in.
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1c8f6b No.744
cb8cda No.745
>>744
Same shit, just without pepper flash and auto update, under different name.
ec85df No.746
>>742
>Associate the report with your account and view it while signed in.
Wait, why would regular users need to have accounts?
This isn't a fucking forum or plebbit or some shit. I believe you've gone over this some time before but I forgot your line of reasoning for this kind of decision. I still don't understand why would anyone that's not a BO / volunteer have an account
1c8f6b No.750
>>746
Any reports associated with your account will follow you. Whether the report results in action will become available information to board owners or administrators if you apply for staff positions. This success ratio may increase (or decrease) the likelihood of you being accepted into that role.
Your reports are not public information. Your identity will not be shown alongside your report. Your report history will not become available unless you apply for a staff position and opt in to have it displayed.
If you do not want to have this report associated with your account, do not check the checkbox.
5872d4 No.751
>>750
That's not what the question was about.
I asked why the hell would people want to create and use accounts in general.
Users accounts are not anonymous, it's literally the oposite of anonymous, even if they're not visible publicly.
2f85d8 No.752
>>750
Can this be turned off completely on a board?
The majority of users hate any kind of account, and just hearing or seeing that word will piss them off or might make them leave, thinking their information will be stored.
1c8f6b No.753
>>751
>I still don't understand why would anyone that's not a BO / volunteer have an account.
>>750
>Whether the report results in action will become available information to board owners or administrators if you apply for staff positions.
No? What is wrong with this? If you do not want an account do not make an account. This is 100% opt-in on three different levels.
If you don't want an account, don't register an account.
If you don't want to own a report, don't own a report.
If you don't want to disclose your reports, don't disclose your reports when applying for a staff position.
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1c8f6b No.754
Your account is not tied to your posts.
Your account does not require an email address.
Your account does not record your IP address.
Your account doesn't care if you're on Tor or not.
The account's only purpose is to let you create boards, manage boards, and own reports.
The impact of this on your use of the service is exactly as it is right now. I have an account for /next/. That doesn't change anything else about how I use the imageboard besides management rights.
1c8f6b No.755
This is what the report form looks like without being logged in. Notice how the option isn't even there? It still works.
33b4c9 No.756
>>754
Is there any protection against bruteforcing?
A captcha would be nice
1c8f6b No.757
>>756
There is literally a captcha in the screenshot directly above your post.
1c8f6b No.758
>>756
Unless you're talking about sign-ins. That's actually a good idea, I hadn't thought of it..
I'll go the route of: 3 unsuccessful logins -> captcha, then 10 -> lockout
33b4c9 No.759
>>757
Nice attention to the post I'm replying to, m8.
>>758
Fine by me. I'm a bit paranoid about the lockout, though. How does it work? If its by IP, then the attacker can just switch IP. If its by account name, then a attacker could lock out the targeted moderator form logging in.
2f85d8 No.760
>>758
>sign-ins
That's even worse (if it's for people who are not moderators).
I don't see what the point of owning reports is in the first place. If I was a board owner, I wouldn't want to hire someone who makes use of it, since only people who really want to become a mod would use it, and those aren't the ones you should usually hire.
1c8f6b No.761
>>759
There are a finite number of ways of doing lockouts. It will be by IP and it will count the number of attempts in 1 hour. 3 ~ 10 is not enough for a brute force. There are a finite number of IP addresses available for use. It would be exceedingly slow. The system does not require more security than that.
>>760
Okay. Then don't make use of it as a board owner. Or do, and do it exactly as you said: reject anyone who applies with an account tie.
You're missing the point. People bitch up and down about the fucking IRC cabal, but guess what? This is an anonymous fucking website. There's no way for copypaste to select volunteers except by asking people he knows or reading applications that can be completely made up. If you want to get rid of the friends-of-friends system that plagued 4chan, you have to compromise. This is how you do it. You add applications and a system that mean something.
On my forum, when I select staff, I run a very complicated algorithm that pulls all sorts of statistics about people to generate a weight and then I manually go down the list and pick the best people. That works phenomenally. I have not had an issue with any of my staff since I started doing this.
8chan has no data. It has no metrics. It has no way of telling who can do what. The only thing a BO or an Admin has when selecting volunteers is who they know and that fucking blows. So you can either complain about this arbitrary as fuck account system some more and keep your broken staffing, or you can give it a chance and see if actual data helps makes a better website. This fear of a name and password with no bearing on the main feature of the imageboard is reactionary and not grounded in reality.
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33b4c9 No.762
>>760
>>761
I'm talking about 8ch.net/mod.php?/ if nobody understood it yet.
cccba4 No.763
>>761
>8chan has no data. It has no metrics. It has no way of telling who can do what.
That's the entire fucking point of anonymous imageboards.
On top of that, selecting volunteers just based on their report history is absolutely pointless.
/v/'s been picking out new volunteers whom Mark didn't know and it turned out alright so far. At least, there weren't any incidents.
I know that your answer to any question is "don't like it don't use it :^)" but that doesn't mean you should make an imageboard system built like a fucking forum.
33b4c9 No.764
>>763
>That's the entire fucking point of anonymous imageboards.
Yes it is. He only said it makes hard to pick volunteers. Why the fuck are you being so aggressive about it?
>/v/'s been picking out new volunteers whom Mark didn't know and it turned out alright so far. At least, there weren't any incidents.
That's not an acceptable way to hire global staff.
1c8f6b No.765
>>764
>Why the fuck are you being so aggressive about it?
People refuse to accept that accounts on some level are absolutely required. I showed off the ACP a few weeks ago and people got mad that the account system even existed, even though we have the same thing right now.
c26ea5 No.767
>>765
>even though we have the same thing right now.
So does 4chan, but sudo secretly. There was also a exclusive circlejerk board for organizing administrative actions. Do the whiners rather have it that way?
>>764
>That's not an acceptable way to hire global staff.
Mark doesn't hire global staff.
33b4c9 No.768
>>767
>Mark doesn't hire global staff.
Are you just illiterate? I never implied so.
Go re-read the comment chain, we're at 30 replies.
As for the 4chan thing, then how the fuck do you propose we get new mods?
d991a0 No.769
>>768
>As for the 4chan thing, then how the fuck do you propose we get new mods?
Why, just pick them from /intl/ of course.
f5248b No.771
081a59 No.773
>>768
Each board gets its own Volunteers by any method the BO uses. Globoal volunteers are picked from BOs if I am not mistaken.
I think I side with Null in this issue. 4chan's system is a mess. I happen to know how they have chosen their staff. First the moderators went through ten thousands of applications. Then they picked a handful of people who become janitors. If someone turned out be trustworthy and moot liked him, he gets promoted to Moderator. This position is global on 4chan by the way.
Nulls solution sounds more elegant and unbureaucratic.
>>769
>>771
Shit idea. Look at their BO's and user base's track record.
9cd8ea No.774
>>773
>That last reply to the /intl/ idea
If you're this sarcasm blind then It's probably time to go check if you have the autism, Germany.
Sorry but there's no other way around it.
f5248b No.779
>>773
anal wreckage detected
7a3145 No.788
>>768
>how the fuck do you propose we get new mods?
mods should be chosen based on posting history.
it's always best to choose from people that actually use the board and not IRC circlejerkers.
1c8f6b No.790
>>788
And that automatically discredits people who ...
> Use TOR.
> Use a VPN.
> Have a highly dynamic IP.
And aren't people always saying post history should also be obfuscated? Are we going to broaden how we collect post histories now?
d991a0 No.791
>>790
I always pick my vols based on them having a posting history on the board. Does that mean there's some good people out there that it is impossible for me to pick? Yeah, but that's fine so long as I can find someone decent.
c9c703 No.792
>>790
I post by proxy sometimes but really all you need is about 10 posts or so to know if the person is legitimate.
f5248b No.793
>>792
>I post by proxy sometimes
shitposter detected
819895 No.844
>>792
>there are such a thing as "legitimate" and "illegitimate" posts
And this is why 8chan is stagnant and dying.
ccae82 No.845
>>844
America is where people speak english. You should be fluent with it already.
e5bad8 No.1225
Catalog view and keyboard shortcuts for reports page I assume.
9043c9 No.1229
>>845
texas german master race
fa927f No.1288
Hey Josh, how difficult would it be to implement hash-ban-by-boards for images and other content? This seems like it would help dissuade spamming, at least temporarily, of all but the most autistic (saving and resaving pics with 1 pixel difference thousands of times)
Your garden variety run-of-the-mill gore/CP spammer would get slapped back immediately when he tried to run his script.
Could institute a mb limit for the total size if it gets too clunky, maybe 10mb per board.
63eba5 No.1292
>>1288
Eh. I don't know how much of a good idea that is because it could really harm the user experience.
9a9d1f No.1457
Regarding anti spam and limiting reddit from posting on your boards. The board owner should be able to set options for registration requirements for his board. Low req would let you log in without an email and high req would require email and custom questions set by the owner.
You'd still be anonymous to the other posters, but the owner would find it easier to identify you for bot spamming purposes via the account you registered on his board.