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If you fall off the wagon, get back on.

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 No.1104

The Science & Aftermath of Sexual Exhaustion - How excessive ejaculation causes damaging chemical changes

Masturbation and orgasms deplete the brain and spinal fluids of acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin. Also diminished are hormones such as hGH, DHEA, testosterone, thyroxine (T4) and Triiodothyronine (T3), all neurotransmitters that are responsible for human functioning. All very important when it comes to sex. This deficiency melts the brain’s acetylcholine/parasympathetic, dopamine and serotonin nervous functions along with the endocrine functions. The damage results in symptoms of bladder and prostate problems; frequent urination, incontinency, semen leakage, enlarged prostate, etc…

People also experience hair loss as a result of masturbating way too frequently and they have no idea why. Young men especially wonder why they are losing hair. The answer lays in the imbalances of the body’s nutrients and hormones that over-masturbation produces. Over-conversion of testosterone into DHT leads to excessive DHT binding to the root of hair cells, blocking them from growing and cutting off supplies of nutrients and proteins, causing the hair to become thin and eventually stop growing altogether.

Frequent ejaculation also depletes the body of serotonin, causing an imbalance of it and melatonin. Melatonin is the chemical that controls your biological clock and tells you when to sleep and when to get sleepy. Serotonin, on the other hand, is responsible for fighting stress and anxiety as well as focus and concentration. It gets turned into melatonin for sleep and recharging. People who over-masturbate tend to experience a lack of concentration and fatigue. This is a direct result of depleting their bodies of serotonin.

Some people are clueless, and don’t understand that physical pain is usually an indication that something is wrong. If ejaculating hurts…stop doing it! Frequent ejaculations deplete your body of prostaglandin E-1, and until the body can reproduce sufficient amounts of the nutrient, there will be pain and soreness after ejaculating. Allowing the body to recover before ejaculating again is the first necessary step.

People also complain of pain in the prostate (which is due to an enlargement of the gland that causes restriction of urine flow and contributes to incontinency) after ejaculation. I tell them that their PSA levels have been elevated too high and won’t return to normal for at least a day or so. This is why the prostate is swollen and should be given time to rest before ejaculating again.

http://www.herballove.com/articles/science-aftermath-sexual-exhaustion-how-excessive-ejaculation-causes-damaging-chemical

 No.1105

this explains so much >_<


 No.1106

One problem with the circuitry is the use of norepinephrine as a signal. Norepinephrine has multiple systemic actions aside from sexual function. It is the primary signal for stress (thus sex itself can be considered a stressful, though enjoyable activity). Norepinephrine also triggers energy on demand. It increases thermogenesis. It can lead to changes in thyroid function - up or down. It can lead to insulin resistance, increasing the need for insulin production. It can change renal function, leading to the loss of zinc, iodine and other minerals. It can activate immune system pro-inflammatory signaling. Etc.

If there are underlying problems which already increase stress or demand for norepinephrine signaling, then the sum of these and additional sexual activity can increase norepinephrine signaling excessively leading to the problems one can experience with sexual exhaustion. Some of the changes can lead to positive feedback signaling loops which are self-perpetuating - resulting in a prolonged illness, if triggered. Some of the positive feedback loops prolong sympathetic nervous system, i.e. norepinephrine, signaling. Some changes can result in nutrient deficiencies which cause prolonged dysfunction if not addressed.

In briefly reviewing the symptoms listed on the internet for over-masturbation or sexual exhaustion syndrome, I found the following:

anxiety depression insomnia lack of energy impaired memory mood swings loss of libido erectile dysfunction headaches body pain blurred vision flushed face constipation frequent urination dizziness palpitations hair loss

Note that these symptoms indicate a systemic problem. Generally, the systems involved include the nervous system, endocrine system, immune system, metabolism and nutrition.

Some simple associations between function and a few of the signals or nutrients that are most often affected are as follows:

Anxiety: norepinephrine, serotonin, cortisol, CRH, thyroid, dopamine, testosterone, progesterone, etc.

Depression: dopamine, inflammatory cytokines, iron, Vitamin A, B-vitamins, vitamin D, testosterone, etc.

Insomnia: norepinephrine, thyroid, cortisol, iron, etc.

Lack of energy: thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, norepinephrine, cortisol, insulin, iron, vitamin A, B-vitamins, salt-intake, etc.

Impaired memory: dopamine, norepinephrine, thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, B-vitamins, Vitamin A, etc.

Mood swings: norepinephrine, inflammatory cytokines, cortisol, testosterone, estradiol, thyroid, iron, Vitamin A, B-vitamins, protein intake, etc.

Loss of libido: norepinephrine, inflammatory cytokines, testosterone, estrogens, thyroid, cortisol, iron, zinc,

Erectile dysfunction: norepinephrine, inflammatory cytokines, testosterone, estrogens, thyroid, cortisol, nitric oxide, protein intake, etc.

Headaches: inflammatory cytokines, norepinephrine, cortisol, etc.

Body pain: inflammatory cytokines, norepinephrine, cortisol, thyroid, iron, aldosterone, etc.

Blurred vision: norepinephrine, thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, iron, etc.

Flushed face: norepinephrine, thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, iron, etc.

Constipation: thyroid, norepinephrine, etc.

Frequent urination: norepinephrine, thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, iron, etc.

Dizziness: norepinephrine, inflammatory cytokines, aldosterone, cortisol, nitric oxide, salt-intake, etc.

Palpitations: norepinephrine, inflammatory cytokines, cortisol, etc.

Hair loss: norepinephrine, thyroid, inflammatory cytokines, testosterone, estradiol, DHT, DHEA, zinc, biotin, etc.


 No.1108

Here's a link about supplements that can influence various neurotransmitters: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vandrich1.htm

You generally want to take ZMA, D3 and some anti-norepinephrine supplement after orgasm. This speeds up the recovery process.

I do NOT recommend psychiatric drugs if you're willing to actually help yourself rather than wanting to mask the problem with benzos.


 No.1109


 No.1113

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That post was actually really helpful. I've had problems with depression and fatigue even before I discovered masturbation.

I guess my self medication through frequent fapping hurt me in the long run.

These symptoms only apply to excessive ejaculation, right?

I'm planning on abstaining completely for a prolonged period of time and then limiting myself to once a week or something along those lines. Maybe even once a month.

not gonna go back to porn though


 No.1114

Just wanna point something out here:

http://www.herballove.com/about-herballove

>The materials and comments on Herballove.com are for informational and educational purposes only. They are not to be considered substitutes for medical advice nor should any suggestions be taken in lieu of treatment for actual medical conditions. Professional Medical Care should be promptly sought if you have any concern regarding your health. Information and statements regarding products featured at Herballove.com have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

>They are not to be considered substitutes for medical advice

>Professional Medical Care should be promptly sought if you have any concern regarding your health

>have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration

>are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease

Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Not to say they're wrong, per se, but this reeks something fierce. I mean, hair loss a direct result of too much fapping? I'm not buying it, that's like the first point any snake oil salesman will rattle off in their pitch.


 No.1115

>>1114

Fapping and hair loss is associated with adrenaline


 No.1117

>>1114

Been fapping all my life and while I'm not going bald, I'm definitely shedding hair big time. It's not uncommon to pull dozens of hair strands every time I comb my hair in the morning. Even just running my fingers through my hair makes 3 or 4 strands fall off. It creeps out my female roommate and my mother.

I still get outbreaks of acne too, even though I'm 27. Can't see any other reasons than fapping being the culprit.


 No.1119

>>1117

I too feel I loss much of my hair, but I wear it long, so it could be only the hair that gets tied in itself and with other that I'm losing by combing it, still this should be a red flag, since I just fapped, my semi hard on, and it hurts a little in my penis hole.

This time I'll do it, I'll seriously try nofap.


 No.1123

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>>1114

Just bought myself some Kanabo Energy.

>My face when I have to pay twenty bucks in shipping fees only because I live in Canuckistan

I hope this shit actually works.


 No.1128

>>1117

If you only get acne on your face, consider using moisturizing lotion. It'll moisturize your face so your body won't produce oil to do so.


 No.1133

note to self: don't starve yourself and be a masturbation addict

hypoglycemia is a bitch

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


 No.1137

Adding fish oil and a multivitamin to the aforementioned supplements

>but fish oil is a placebo

People use this as a sleep aid, google it.


 No.1192

>>1104

1 month away from 30 and I'm not balding, my hair loss pattern is a widow's peak and it's sexy thank g-d.

Someone should really do a study on how much autists like m'self jack it because lolz

a lot of this really does make sense from what I've skimmed over.

>going to uni

>fapping a lot

>no energy "ill get up early and do homework", doesnt happen

>weeks behind on reading

Thank g-d my ass has the burgers or I wouldn't be high 90's in everything


 No.1219

I just want to know one thing.

Is it possible to reverse all of these issues by abstaining?


 No.1221

>>1219

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: There are cases of people recovering from much worse damage from recreational/psychiatric/prescription drugs. If you feel like you're not functional because of porn/ejaculation, then you can easily meet your goals in a matter of weeks if you have the willpower and stick to your self-help schedule. Either you're all in or you're all out.


 No.1222

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>>1221

Thanks. Hopefully I'll put a stop to my addiction, and more importantly recover from it.


 No.1342

>The damage results in symptoms of bladder and prostate problems; frequent urination, incontinency, semen leakage, enlarged prostate, etc…

This explains why piss dribbles out after I pee even though I'm only 21 and have no other health problems. Hopefully I'll be able to piss normally after doing nofap.




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