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50ffdd No.3277

>>3270
So how bout that new Camaro??

070e20 No.3278

The new Camaro is not being unveiled until May, faggot

4f3611 No.3293

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Quoted anon here. Not sure why you want my opinion specifically, but here it is.

I've always maintained that after the first iteration, the Camaro has looked like a Hotwheels car. You may have seen this sentiment around. It's too edgy for me, all hard angles and exaggerated proportions and I don't like just about any of the finer details; it's not at all like the original car, which was beautiful and well proportioned. I feel the greenhouse is just too small for the rest of the car, and I can tell by looking at it that visibility is going to be negatively affected, and more generally, the bottom half of the car below the window line is just really, really large, and little effort has been made to pull the body in. It's like a gut hanging out; it doesn't curve in at the bottom to tighten the package, it just goes straight down and looks massive.

Making the Hotwheels effect worse, the sports editions of the Camaro always look just cartoonish. The diffusers and splitters and whatnot just look ridiculous (jutting out with their angular segments), and one does get the overwhelming feeling that it's compensating for the fact that the car is a huge brick as hard as it can. I wish GM would turn it into more of a cruiser/drag machine with power on tap then a balls to the wall track ready car, as it just looks wrong. Best to leave the track stuff to the Corvette, I think. Same with Cadillac's performance vehicles.

On the 2016 Camaro? (pictured). It's much the same. The new grill/headlight recession just looks like designers are still wrangling with how to make the same body better in the wind tunnel and it looks droopy, melted and silly now, and the rear end looks completely stupid and I have no love for the new lights arrangement there.

Actually, in your photo, Bay's car designer has been a bit clever. By painting the bottom black below a certain level, it does lighten the car up a bit. Dodge have done that on the 2015 Challenger and, although it's cheap trickery and I dislike it, I must admit it works and the cars look better. GM should considering doing that as standard.

I've attached an image of a classic Camaro for comparison. Muscle cars just need a big greenhouse, I think.

Anyway, the above is just my opinion. Sorry, Camaro lovers. Don't take it personally. Your favorite cars are impressive performers, just astonishingly ugly to me.

4f3611 No.3294

>>3293
I should mention, I think the massive width of the A pillars doesn't help at all with the toy car effect. Some manufacturers are sorting this out with modern cars and it's getting generally better, but not here from the looks of it.

50ffdd No.3295

>>3293
Agreed. It's never recovered from the hideosity of the 1970 model.

6798dd No.3508

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>>3293
To be fair the original was build on a bespoke chassis with nearly no safety or economy standards to meddle with the style or dilute it's purpose as a sports car.

Meanwhile the new Camaro is based on a Holden Commodore and have to care what happens when some idiot dances in traffic and get 200 MPG.

>>3295
I hope you mean the Late Seventies model not the split nose.

6798dd No.3509

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>>3508
Posting a late 70's because I have it and the image limit two

d88ef7 No.3510

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>>3509
>That filename

2846b9 No.3511

>>3508
The Commodore only very recently stopped being an utter pig, yet strongly contributed to sinking Holden.

The Camaro needs to be built on a bespoke chassis again. It is possible to make beautiful cars which tick modern safety standards.

6798dd No.3522

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>>3511
I think it was more that GM wanted to focus on the "Core" brands so that meant axing Holden and I think Opel. Which is kinda stupid since Holden made GM's only rear-wheel drive platform (apart from Corvette but that doesn't really count considering that it's meant to be the halo car for GM).

Frankly what GM should do instead of building it on a shortened Sedan platform is to build the next one on a elongated C6 Frame. And maybe styled to be fresh and useable instead of just being "Hey, we remeber the 70's too!"

3fc320 No.3525

>>3522
>Frankly what GM should do instead of building it on a shortened Sedan platform is to build the next one on a elongated C6 Frame.

only if you want to pay upwards of 35k for a base Camaro.

2846b9 No.3526

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>>3522
Holden and Ford had been selling miserably here for a decade, and had been getting money from the government to simply exist. When the new government came in, they said that had to stop; no free rides, so Ford, Toyota and Holden all said "nope, fuck that, we're out" and announced the end of production in Australia. And sure, the government insists that Toyota was discussing wrapping up production before they got in, but the denial of support payments was the trigger. What I learned long after it was over is that it all cost Australians about $18 each. Not that much, but I wish FordAU and GMAU had used the money for something better then their shitty plastic, prone to breaking, obese yachts. They were barely muscle cars anymore.

As a result, Australia has no locally built cars anymore. The Falcon wraps up at the end of this year, as does the Territory (same platform), giving way to the Mustang, and the Commodore will be replaced by an American built version of the same, but all of it's variants including the Caprice, Senator, etc, have all been axed, so it'll be equivalent to the Chevy Malibu only now. (Which means the government needs to find new luxury vehicles now), and who the fuck cares about what Toyota is doing.

So yeah, it's not the greatest.

On the side though, if you want a real value appreciator, grab a new Falcon XR8. They're only making 16K of them, I had heard, and that'll be sure to appreciate in value in 30 years. (The sad part for me is that the new Falcon is actually good looking, and had someone taken a scalpel to it and peeled back the fat, it'd be sexy. In reality though, it's an attempt to stylistically merge into the Mondeo, which will replace it.)

Also, I'm still waiting for Chrysler to fulfill their promise to step in and fill the gap left by our local manufacturing with the Charger.

6798dd No.3528

>>3525
The base is already 31K. They could substitute some of the Aluminum for high strength steel to take the price down. And we'd be left with an infinitely better product. Also some of the Corvette pricing is just badge tax.

>>3526
Now there are less jobs and less stuff to export. Good job gov. Also the last of the AAA game dev studios closed down. What does Austailia have besides horrible insects and funposting now?

Plus the anti-fun laws they have in place just make any car they did make undesirable.
Now you'll be left with Ford (who seems to hate fun now-a-days so they'll fit right in for the foverment), Chevy (who seemingly hate RWD in everything that's name doesn't start with a C). And you don't have Dodge down under? Seems odd.

7d46c0 No.3529

2005 lotus exige
Any 2012+ Volvo. Someone pls post pics

2846b9 No.3532

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>>3528
>Now there are less jobs and less stuff to export. Good job gov.
Yes. The situation in this country is rapidly going from bad to worse. One of our prime exports has over halved in value, our other prime money maker is property development, which is fucking cancerous and has made accommodation here unaffordable and large tracts of land in foreign hands. And when natural resource exports ever seriously die (and they are - our fourth biggest miner is shutting shop (yesterday's headline actually) and out state-sponsored, tax exempt, "all Australian" third is looking very close to doing the same (leaving BHP and Rio Tinto), and coal and gas are flagging as well)…. well, it's curtains for Australia.

>What does Ausfailia have besides horrible insects and funposting now?

Our multiculturalism, I guess.

>And you don't have Dodge down under?

We have Dodge, but they've only brought the Nitro, the Journey and the Avenger here. And we have the 300C from Chrysler. But we do have the full range of Jeeps, which is nice. The Grand Cherokee is good looking.
And we have Fiats and Alfas.

But who cares, Fiat has changed their tune from two years ago, it seems.

>“I want to make sure we have a really strong Jeep brand in Australia first and foremost,” Bartoli said.

>“I want to make sure we have good entries on the Fiat side — on the entry-level B hatch, C hatch and potentially doing something there — and I want to make sure as we roll out Alfa… that has a big role in the Australian market.
Ughh.

Besides, Dodge has withdrawn from the UK altogether and we're the only market that gets the 300C SRT8, so I think despite Fiat's mixed messages, it's the death bell for Dodge and Chrysler in Australia.

And, more generally, it's all falling to pieces. The V8 Supercars race series now has V6s in it; featuring Nissan and Toyota for goodness sake.

6798dd No.3534

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>>3532
> The V8 Supercars race series now has V6s

Also isn't a majority of Australia outback? Who the fuck wants a tiny little Fiat in the God-damn outback?

2846b9 No.3535

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>>3534
Yes and no.
Large tracts of the nice bits have been paved over.
Outside of the urban areas is either mixed forest/sandy, hilly farmland or desert (with a smattering of jungle), and if the bitumen ends you will definitely need some sort of raised vehicle with offroad tires to get around any of that bar the scrub and desert, but in the urban areas, you can get around with no difficulty in anything you like.

The coastal cities are all urban, and you can take a modern sedan across the Nullabor or between cities with no trouble except for fuel and food/water concerns just fine as there's roads connecting everything, with sparse accommodation and petrol vendors.

There is the dying culture of offroading for pleasure, too, so tradies and rougher men will have Hiluxes, 4WDs or utes equipped for offroad, but this is sort of going out of fashion slowly.

So, unfortunately, hipsters and privileged women can have a Fiat 500 happily here. It helps that noone goes anywhere either, really, as there's sweet FA outside of most major cities.

6798dd No.3536

>>3535
I knew that you had city's along the coasts but could you drive from East to West in a fiat without trouble?

But you guy's seriously need a government that doesn't hate fun like their parents crashed on a rollercoaster and had clowns eat their corpses.

Also what does FA mean?

2846b9 No.3537

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>>3536
Yeah, definitely with the fuel efficiency of a light car like a Fiat. There are fuel stops placed at even spaces along the journey for the road-train Joshs, as that's how a lot of our cross-country transit is done when time is only somewhat of the essence. The only downside to them is that they charge out the wazoo for petrol, but that's expected.
A muscle car that drank fuel might have some trouble, and I'd definitely have a spare can just in case, but you totally could. Plenty of tourists buy rusting VW vans and such and make the trip. Probably worth doing if you go and drive past the Great Australian Bight, as it's a really nice stretch of vast cliffs.

And yes. You're absolutely right about our government. Comfort and high incomes from mining and housing investment has bred a wealthy middle class who are a strong left-leaning body of people that are at soft political war with more rural traditionalists, so politicians have a really hard time getting anything done at all, and because traditionalists tend to be more rural, tend to lean towards the big government/more law side to appease city voters.

And I meant "sweet fuck all".

b39a4e No.6012

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>>3277

There isn't an Anime reaction image smug enough in existence for me right now. fuck your "modern muscle cars", all of them look like fat Toyota Corollas


fa6f45 No.6014

>>6012

I bet you get loads of chicks in your civic.


b39a4e No.6037

>>6014

No imports here, only an '89 Chevy C1500 and soon also have an '83 Chevy Camaro. Modified Small Blocks are life.


5baefb No.6046

>>6037

>190hp for the Z/28

even Volvo was making faster cars in the 80s


fa6f45 No.6047

>>6037

What can I say, I'm driving a Chinkmobile myself, I'm impressed. I've got a friend who builds the F bodies, might have him make me one.


b39a4e No.6076

>>6046

>What are new crate engines

I love the look of the 3rd gen F bodies, and with a modern 350 you can easily get 300-400 hp naturally aspirated.

>>6047

I'm going to need a chinkmobile just because I'm a cheap jew that wants to save money on Gas.


5baefb No.6101

>>6076

>spend 7k+ on a crate motor with that much power

>put it in the worst gen of camero

I suppose its your money to burn


f26890 No.6103

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>>6101

>worst gen of camero

>>worst gen

>>camero

faggot detected


5baefb No.6111

>>6103

>typo

>still ugly as sin


f26890 No.6113

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>>6111

>thinks based 3rd gen f-bodies are ugly

ricer weaboo and/or yuropoor dickmongler detected

do the world a favor and suck start a shotgun


5baefb No.6114

>>6113

mulletmobile a shit, in the early 80s we had some decent looking cars, the f-bodies were not any of them


b1ebc0 No.6117

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>>6113

>being this much of a patriotist

/pol/ fuck off


3e55d9 No.6122

>>6101

>7k for a 400 hp Small Block

Are you actually retarded? try 32 hundred

F bodies make my dick hard


3e55d9 No.6123

>>6117

I didn't see that, "patriotist" What the fuck does that even mean? Are you 12 or drunk?

I forgot to include link for retards, sorry its large.

http://www.tristarengines.com/catalog/high-performance-crate-engines/gm/355/355-chev-375-hp-395-torque-complete-dyno-d-hp-crate-engine-with-dart-shp-performance-aluminum-heads.html


b1ebc0 No.6128

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>>6123

>>6113

>ricer weaboo and/or yuropoor dickmongler detected

>implying that I need to be a weeb to have a Justy 4WD or 850 T5-R

Either you're autistic as fuck or a /pol/tard.


b1ebc0 No.6129

>>6128

*>implying that I need to be a weeb or Europoor to have a Justy 4WD or 850 T5-R


5baefb No.6130

>>6123

neet, Summit doesn't have them in their catalog


f26890 No.6135

>>6123

or you could just buy some 96+ vortech heads along with a nice roller cam and TPiS intake or miniram on a 87+ 3rd gen with a 350 along with proper exhaust modifications and ECU rom chip replaced or flashed and you can make just as much power while having to spend less than $1500 or having to pull the factory engine out of the car

i have owned a few TPI cars myself and they are very responsive to modifications when you get rid of the restrictive stock intake manifold and exhaust, especially if you replace the rear gears and with "D-port" C4 corvettes with aluminum heads after 86 of which i have owned a few

>>6129

>*>implying that I need to be a weeb or Europoor to have a Justy 4WD or 850 T5-R

just means youre a hipster, the justy is a shit tier econobox, and the 850 would be decent if they werent almost all FWD and automatic


a7396c No.6136

>>6128

You are confusing me with >>6113

>>6135

I live in Alaska, Cars are used hard up here, getting a new engine is important. Also, the stock engines weren't known for handling high power very well. I can understand not wanting to spend a ton but I would rather just do it right the first time. You have no idea how the previous 32 years (for my Camaro) were spent besides hearsay/ from the owner, and they arn't going to explain all the glorious details. Why limit yourself to a 305 when you have the option of a 350 bored?

You definitely are right about the 80's intakes being shit though, my 89 Silverado sounded quite literally like it was choking while getting up to highway speed until I replaced the little shit stock intake and filter mount with an Edelbrock 3in


f26890 No.6137

>>6136

>Also, the stock engines weren't known for handling high power very well

there is nothing wrong with L98 engine block strength, stock L98 blocks in decent shape can easily take 400-450HP on a stock bottom end before replacing rods becomes necessary

> You have no idea how the previous 32 years (for my Camaro) were spent besides hearsay/ from the owner

this is why you do a compression test to find out how much wear the rings and cylinders have, the cam will have typically some wear but you should replace the shitty stock cam anyway, and as long as oil pressure is healthy and you have no bottom end noise there should be no issues, it is a 350 after all

> Why limit yourself to a 305 when you have the option of a 350 bored

i said before that 87+ F-bodies had a 350 as an option, also boring adds very little displacement or power, a typical rebuild with a .030 overbore just adds up to 355 cubic inches and .090 is typically the most people overbore, if you want more displacement you need to change the stroke, hence "stroker motors"


a7396c No.6139

>>6137

My 3rd gen is an 83 305, I wish I had the L98. I can understand not noticing that. I'm busy building on my property so right now I can't put money into cars, I bought the Camaro because I'm sick of all my hobbies becoming utterly unaffordable. I'm concerned that the less loved muscle cars are slowly going to turn into the Surplus of vehicles. People do crazy, stupid shit to them because theyre cheap and then one day its 300% the original cost just 10 years after. For instance, SKS or Mosin Nagant rifles. SKS' used to be 200~ $ guns, now they pretty much start at 500~ $. Mosins used to be less than 80 ~$ per rifle, regardless of quality or manufacture excepting unique variants and now they run 200~ $ for shit tier, mid war, beaten to hell and shot out rifles.

You're still a pretty cool guy, even for a tripfag, consider dropping the trip.


f26890 No.6140

>>6139

>I'm concerned that the less loved muscle cars are slowly going to turn into the Surplus of vehicles.

this has pretty much been my thoughts for the past few years, now my yard is full of 80s/90s sports cars that have not appreciated in value in the last 10 years, although i live in a state without roadsalt or sea

>SKS or Mosin Nagant rifles. SKS' used to be 200~ $ guns, now they pretty much start at 500~ $. Mosins used to be less than 80 ~$ per rifle, regardless of quality or manufacture excepting unique variants and now they run 200~ $ for shit tier, mid war, beaten to hell and shot out rifles.

watch out for sales on surplus retail sites, also while reddit in general is a shit r/gundeals is worth watching, along with /k/ of course

early hex 91/30 excellent shape or a type 53 for 150 for example, most dealers around me do FFL transfer for around $15-25

https://www.impactguns.com/russian-mosin-m9130-excellent-condition-m9130.aspx

https://www.impactguns.com/chinese-type-53-rifle-licensed-version-of-the-mosin-44-762x54r-good-condition-type53-g-787450079762.aspx

>You're still a pretty cool guy, even for a tripfag, consider dropping the trip.

blow me, also i only trip on /o/ for the few oldfags who originally migrated who i recognize


b1ebc0 No.6149

>>6135

>Justy

>hipster car

I'm fucking done with this namefag. Sure, they may be ecoboxes in your 3rd world country, but they are quite rare where I live.


f26890 No.6158

>>6149

>Sure, they may be ecoboxes in your 3rd world country, but they are quite rare where I live.

thanks for proving my point, dumbass

being rare doesnt mean its not a piece of shit econobox with no redeeming features, only further proves that you want to be a special snowflake hipster


a7396c No.6159

>>6140

>Only 150$

They're sold out. If you remember Economics in school you would know that that means the price should be higher as to prevent shortages. Please don't cherry pick to make the sad state of surplus look any better than it is. At one time (adjusted for inflation) you could get a perfect condition M1 Garand or K98 for less than 200$

>blow me

I was nice about it, being an attention whore on a board with 20 active users is seriously low.

I took off the layer of grease/dust off the engine though, feels good to clean cars. It needs some replacement parts, should cost me about 700$ to get it in prime "ready to hotrod" condition excepting paint. The 85 mph speedometer is a fucking joke.


b1ebc0 No.6185

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>>6158

Get a load of this namefag, tells me that i'm a special snowflake hipster because I want a small car with 4WD.

Show me some other 4WD subcompacts THAT are available in Europe, or else fuck off to halfchan /o/


5baefb No.6197

>>6185

Willys/Jeep CJ


b1ebc0 No.6200

>>6197

Forgot to add: something that doesn't use more gas than water on my washer-dryer. (which uses around 25L per drying cycle for the condenser system)


5baefb No.6201

>>6200

CJs get about 15-20mpg depending on year, engine, and how you drive about 9kpl if google converter is right, that's about the same as a Volvo 240.


7c6345 No.6203

>>6200

Jeep CJ with the 4 liter fuel injected 6 and Borg Warner t5 transmission get decent mileage.




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