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42f628 No.3636

Alright, I want to start riding a motorcycle /o/, I know this board is slow as fuck but I'll post.

Im going to be riding to school only, or buy groceries, I dont go out much and really want to ride during the summer. When It gets winter or its just too oold, i'll drive a car.

I had in mind a DualSport bikes, I like the design and they are pretty cheap, is craiglist the best way to buy a bike? Or just go to your local dealer? I like the pic related looks, but need something easy to ride.

I also was wondering about protection, since I live in the south, It gets pretty warm/hot during the summer/spring.

This was the jacket I was going to buy:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/icon-1000-basehawk-jacket

I dont like jackets, and prefer hoodies but since its the summer im gonna need airflow.

I can always add more protection and change the pads right? Also do i need a back protector?

I was going to get this too aswell for my neck, it also comes with a chest protection and its reusable if it doesnt break:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/spidi-neck-dps-airbag-vest

Are there any better ones that this? Or I dont really need this?

I only wear shorts, so I was going to buy this:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-bionic-freeride-shorts

Other than that I was just going to use tennis shoes, and regular socks.

Ofcourse I was going to wear a helmet, but I dont need to state the obvious

Can I listen to music with headphones while I ride my bike, and I use big framed glasses, would they get damaged if I just wear them in my helmet or be really uncomfortable on the daily basis? not in a event of a crash

The vest I was going to use was going to be highlight color btw so people in cars can see me. But the protective hoodie I want was just going to be plain color.

fd518c No.3637

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Congrats on deciding to ride, motorcycling is awesome! For the kind of riding you're doing, pic related (DR-Z 400) is an awesome choice. It gets old pretty fast on the freeway, but for anything under 65 mph or so it's brilliant. Great handling, fun engine, comfy riding position, and completely bulletproof mechanicals. If you plan on doing a mix of street and dirt riding, the DR-Z 400 is great. If you're looking at street riding only, look at the DR-Z 400SM. It's a supermoto version of the DR-Z 400 (basically smaller wheels for quicker handling, among a few other things). Craigslist is the way to go for sure, don't go to a dealer unless you want a new bike. DR-Zs tend to be pretty damn reliable, but bring along a mechanically knowledgeable friend when you're looking to buy a used bike, just in case. Look out for anything with title issues or non-running bikes. Title issues are a massive pain in the ass, and whenever a seller says a bike will run with "a little work" assume they mean a full engine swap.

The hoodie looks good, but possibly look into getting something mesh, ideally with CE level 1 elbow and shoulder protection. something like:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-t-gp-plus-air-jacket

or maybe

http://www.revzilla.com/product/joe-rocket-phoenix-50-jacket

As long as it's mesh and CE level 1, you're good. CE level 2 is better, but much, much pricier. The hoodie you have linked is good, but it probably won't breathe as well as something with more mesh.

Back protector is definitely a must, at least for me. Make sure it's the kind that straps directly to your back (instead of being a jacket insert) and make sure it's CE level 2 (most back protectors are).

The neck protector thing looks cool, but honestly, neck injuries are pretty rare in my experience. It might be cool, but I imagine it'll get really hot and really sweaty, really fast. Neck braces are super important for technical off-roading, but neck protection for road usage never really struck me as completely necessary.

I'd highly, HIGHLY advise you get some mesh pants with knee protection (optional hip protection is also a plus). When you're moving, mesh pants breathe incredibly well, but keep your legs safe from road rash (which FUCKING SUCKS, believe me). Also, knee injuries will permanently fuck your shit in ways few other injuries can. Armor them knees up.

You might be able to get away with shoes at low speeds, but I've seen multiple riders have their foot ripped off at the ankle in crashes. Shit ain't pretty. For what it's worth, I'd highly recommend boots.

Headphones are fine, just make sure you keep the music low enough to hear stuff around you. I'd look into getting some sound cancelling earbuds, or some other headphone you can wear with earplugs. Earplugs are very important if you want to be able to hear later in your life; even 30mph can result in hearing damage without some kind of ear protection.

I wear glasses when I ride. Some helmets can be kind of a pain to wedge glasses into, but it's not too big of a deal.

Lastly, 3 more things of equal importance:

1) If you haven't already, take the MSF, or whatever your state's version of it is. A motorcycle safety course will teach you valuable skills and save you some insurance cost.

2) PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. 30,000 miles of riding later, I still do this regularly. Find an empty parking lot and practice emergency braking. Get your stopping distance as short as you can without locking the front or rear wheels. Practice swerving to avoid obstacles. Practice low-speed maneuvers. Practice.

3) Have Fun!

Congratulations again on deciding to ride; it may end up being the best decision you've ever made!


fd518c No.3638

>>3637

Actually, quick amendment to this: looking at that airbag jacket again, it actually looks pretty breathable. If you have the cash, it might be cool. Still nonessential though.


fd518c No.3640

>>3637

Also, when I said pic related, I meant your pic. My pic is only marginally related.


6f1c01 No.3650

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I started off on a KLX250S, it served me very well.

You don't *need* a back protector, but buy and use as much protective gear as you and your wallet are willing to tolerate.

>Can I listen to music with headphones while I ride my bike

I've used IEMs in the past, and you can get speaker pads that sit inside your helmet, but I would encourage you not to do this until your riding abilities have reached that 'unconscious competence' point.

>I use big framed glasses, would they get damaged if I just wear them in my helmet or be really uncomfortable on the daily basis?

Just bring them with you when trying on helmets, some helmets have a small channel at the side of the helmet so you can easily put on and remove glasses without fighting against the padding.


42f628 No.3651

>>3637

>>3650

So as long as the pads in the protectice hoodie have CE Lvl 1 or Lvl 2 pads im good right? I look at some hip/ thigh protectors, and wouldnt having noise cancelling earbuds prevent you hearing the things around you?

Yeah I read about the MSF, my state has one and I heard its really good. There are not much bikes in craigslist in my location , which is surprising, so I'll try to find a dealer that sells some older bikes but still new. Its moslty going to be street but I think I might get the DR-Z 400SM but isnt that a big engine for a starter like me?


42f628 No.3652

>>3651

Scratch that I was looking in the wrong area when looking for motorcycles.


6f1c01 No.3653

>>3651

>I might get the DR-Z 400SM but isnt that a big engine for a starter like me?

I know its often touted that you should start on a smaller bike, but I wish I'd had a bigger engine when starting out, having to wring the neck out of the motor to go on the freeway isn't much fun, but half of that problem was gearing. A 400 should be fine.

I'd only start out on a smaller engine if its a supersport, the kick in HP in the top end of those can catch you out if you're not careful, otherwise having a decent amount of torque is a great thing for a normal commuter/cruiser/tourer type bike


c4a5a2 No.3654

A DRZ400SM is fine to start on, it's an ancient engine so it's not really anywhere near "powerful".

Be aware that the lack of a 6th gear affects it's usability on the freeway


42f628 No.3655

>>3654

>>3653

Im not saying im getting a DRZ400SM, If I find a good one to buy near me I'll probably get it, but if there are none, what are some other dualsports I should look for? And what are typically good brands that are reliable.


6f1c01 No.3660

>>3655

Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki/Yamaha are always safe bets

You can get lucky with chinese makes, but they are a pot luck


fd518c No.3661

>>3655

I started on a DR650. Basically a bigger, heavier, more outdated version of the DR-Z with a bigger engine. The DR-Z is a lot more nimble, and much better off-road, but the DR650 handles high cruising speeds much better. The kawasaki KLR650 is also popular, but aside from being ugly, I hate how damn heavy they are. Outside of those two, all of the 250 dual sports (kawasaki KLX 250, Honda CRF 250, Suzuki DR200, Yamaha WR250) are great. Some are better than others (the WR250 is the best and the most expensive), but they're all very capable, albeit lacking in power.


fd518c No.3662

>>3651

I think ICON uses their own alternative to CE, but you should probably be fine with them either way, their stuff's pretty good these days. As for the earbuds, you do hear less stuff around you, but saving your ears is definitely worth it. Look for around 24-32 db sound reduction.


074b2d No.5226

>>3636

>is craiglist the best way to buy a bike?

Yes

>Or just go to your local dealer?

Unless you're buying it new (which you aren't) buy it used from the owner fuck used dealers.

Make sure they have the title and that it is clean (not a salvage title).


177efd No.5227

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>>3636

>Can I listen to music with headphones while I ride my bike

you can but it reduces your situational awareness which is critical on a bike.

>The vest I was going to use was going to be highlight color btw so people in cars can see me

every study conducted on the high visibility colors on bikes comes back with no significant increase in safety or any reduction in crashes. you're better off honking the horn.

read pic related. vol 1&2 are two completely different books that are equally helpful. there are PDF copies floating around the web.

the book is aimed at racing superbikes but the physics and mechanics of it apply to all powered 2 wheel vehicles.

be sure to pay attention to the "survival reactions" if you can identify your mistake while it's happening you can correct it before it gets you in trouble. I know that from experience.


fa6fd7 No.5560

There are hardly any dualsports where I live, theres only like 5 bikes for sale and 3 are brand newish at 5k+ Fuck that.

What do?


f4f7f0 No.5567

>>3636

> I had in mind a DualSport bikes, I like the design and they are pretty cheap, is craiglist the best way to buy a bike? Or just go to your local dealer? I like the pic related looks, but need something easy to ride.

Dual sports are the way to go.

Definitely buy it used from craigslist, although dealers can be competitively priced as well. Are you going to supermoto the bike?

I really like the DRs and KLRs. They're comfortable, easy to work on, and are cheap. Best thing about the bikes is you can drop em a hundred times and not give any fucks about it.


fa6fd7 No.7114

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Motorcycle Gear

Pick 1 in each section

Helmet: MSR Xpedition Helmet – 140$

Fox Racing V1 Race Helmet (GOGGLES NEEDED) – 140$

Fox Racing V1 Vandal Helmet (GOGGLES NEEDED) – 140$

Chest: Forcefield EX-K Harness Flite Plus – 350$

Jacket: REV'IT! Cyclone H2O Rain Jacket (HIGH VIZ) – 60$

Elbows: Forcefield EX-K Elbow Protectors – 100$

Gloves: Cortech Impulse RR Gloves (HIGH VIZ) – 130$

Pants: Thor Core Air Divide Pants – 170$

AGV Sport Willow Perforated Leather Pants – 219$

Underwear: Forcefield Pro Action Shorts – 200$

Dainese Hard Shorts E1 – 100$

Forcefield Sport Action Shorts – 170$

Knees: Forcefield Grid Knee Protectors – 190$

Boots: SIDI Fusion Air Boots – 200$

Cortech Latigo Air RR Boots – 180$

Other Things:

Backpack: Fly Illuminator Street Backpack (HIGH VIZ) – 80$

High Visibility LED Motorcycle Belt (RED) - 30$

God damn I am going to come up around 1600$ but I refuse to wear anything thats not CE-2. Also do I need a mesh/leather jacket? All I got is a HIGH VIZ think jacket listed and not sure if that will suffice. Also I am wondering if I can wear the leathers under my regular jeans let alone with the CE armor underwear. Also are the THOR pants any good? It says its in the Street section but they are like motocross pants? Not sure but they look nice, wished more mesh/leather/textile pants were like this.

Which kind is the best for dualsport? I really wont be riding on the highway so everything im gonna be riding at is at 50mph and below. Leather/Textile/Mesh for Jackets and Pants.

Also the dual sport helmets 1 has a visor while the others dont but do you need a visor? The ones without it are rated DOT and SNELL, while the 1 with a visor is just DOT and ECE. My state says you dont need a visor to ride if I checked correctly. But Im coming up to around 4k~ for getting the bike and gear. Also do you guys that wear the same gear every day? How often do you wash your motorcycle pants/jackets?


fa6fd7 No.7164

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>>7114

self bump


fa6fd7 No.7190

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>>7164

I want to convert my Yamaha yz85 into street legal use.

I it needs

>Headlights, tail, and turn signal

>Horn

>Emission approved exhaust or some shit

>battery shit

>Dot Tires

I got everything I know I can need to buy except the battery shit, not sure what to buy and where I can get a battery kit to make it street legal. Like will it charge recharge when I drive or not? Where do I put it?

Everything else on the list I found them that are for the Yamaha to make it legal. Besides the battery.


fa6fd7 No.7191

>>7190

Also wanted to add that Im in N.C. and also whats the difference for 2 stroke and 4 stroke?

If I cant make it street legal, I want a short bike in height like the yamaha yz85, its perfect imo for my height.


cd79a2 No.7198

>>7190

>I got everything I know I can need to buy except the battery shit, not sure what to buy and where I can get a battery kit to make it street legal. Like will it charge recharge when I drive or not? Where do I put it?

I don't know, what are the electrical system specs? Does it have any DC capacity at all or is it just a magneto ignition?

If it's magneto, you'll need to convert the ignition and charging system to something that can output DC current to support the lights and accessories, or stop and charge the battery almost constantly.

As a base, you want to start with a bike that at the very least already has a DC electrical system, or that can easily be retrofitted.

Or just get a WR250R


fa6fd7 No.7319

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/5286686849.html

Its a xf250 ssr, its Chinese from what I heard they are avg bikes. I think I can get a few 100 $ more off since he is asking 1500$ right now. I went to see it today and it seems pretty alright. Anyone know if these bikes are absolute trash or decent?

Is it worth the buy? I thought it would be smaller when I went to see it but its a good size im still comfortable with. Not sure about if its a shit bike and company though, anyone know? It only has 340 miles on it and 1500$




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