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>>4154

You're correct.

I replicated another image and updated the cars.

>>4153

I think almost everything in pic related has evolved quite well. I can't really say it's better or worse, just different.

The notable exception being the GTO. Fourth generation looks too soft and is overall ugly af.

With all regulations and mandates and shit, they've done an alright job. Still missteps here and there but overall, an alright job.

I'll run through the cars you have there

>Challenger

The most powerful and in your face compared to the other two, it continues tradition well. Also pretty good looking (If a bit fatter now)

>Camaro

The original was meant to challenge the Mustang by being more agile. It's sort-of lost it's way becoming a GT cruiser for the most part but some editions can still bring that point out very well. And the latest one based on the Alpha platform with a Turbo 4 to compeate against Ford is true to original purpose Even it's gotten significantly uglier

>Mustang

The working mans sports car. It still fills this role and some of the special versions are very interesting. The modern ones still achieve this.

>Corvette

America's premier sports car at a bargain. It still does this job even in the face of potent rivals from Europe.

>Challenger

An unpoligetic styling copuled to a large, powerful engine to back up the looks. It still achieves this.

>GTO

It hurts

>>4154

It's the first Stingray technically. And frankly the C1 Corvette is odd-man out in terms of styling. The rest take after the C2

>>4155

Care to post the original if you can?

>>4157

The last GTO is just a rebadged Holden Monaro. Not a bad car on its own, but people hated for not riding the retraux wave.

>>4168

that.. looks like a Audi, wtf.

>>4167

The only good challenger is the 2015 HELLCAT, and man that thing is nice, although I feel that it is kinda fat and can be slimmed down to make it look more like the original.

>>4168

You could probably stick an audi decal on that wheel and no one would be any wiser

Looks neat though, much nicer than the earlier versions

>>4179

>only good challenger

>not the 392 HEMI

Oh and the double big gulp cupholders need to fuck off or at least get a cover ffs. And the chrome accents. And the shitty looking crabon applique. I take that back, it really is much too vulgar to be Audi.

>>4179

If you've configured a Challenger lately online, you'll have found that for one with a V8, leather and a sound system that isn't shit, they're cheaper then the Camaro by a few thousand and ever so slightly cheaper then the new Mustang.

Plus the interior looks miles better then the Camaro.

So maybe that doesn't fulfil your criteria as good, but it's good value for a decently equipped grand tourer.

>>4204

The shape and flow is the same, but the Audi is a mess of lines like the Camaro. At least the Challenger's interior flows neatly and doesn't have a lot going on, even if it looks cheap in fabric seats.

I do like that Audi integrated the map into their gauge area. Pity Dodge can't do that because of all the performance pages and shit they have in theirs.

>>4216

Both the camaro and mustang are on fairly new platforms, the challenger's architecture was "introduced" over a decade ago but the front suspension from the benz S Class was introduced in 98, while a good chunk of the rest of the car is from the 2002 E Class.

>>4219

>good chunk

The transmissions and suspension were replaced with original ones in 2013.

I'm pretty sure however Jay Leno brings up and debunks the point about shared Mercedes tech on the new car when he interviews the Dodge rep on his web show. So I guess its just a shared firewall and such now.

Regardless, does it matter whose name is on the underpinnings of the platform you're driving? Are you one of those anal people who refer to all Dodges, Chryslers and Jeeps as Fiats?

More importantly, are you going to try and turn this into a discussion about performance now?

>>4223

Transmission is now a ZF unit, the 8HP, definitely not original or even fiat-sourced. It's a choice unit for a lot of euro makes, it's the bread and butter of VAG, BMW and many more.

Suspension is still the same.

Look, I'm not saying that's bad (it's only a bad thing if you have bad roads), just that it's using a lot of components that have been around for awhile and are shared over many vehicles, and that saves costs, so it's no wonder it's cheaper than newer cars on either bespoke or new platforms. THAT was my point.

Oh and BTW, the bulk of chrysler's lineup is either leftovers from Daimler or modified fiats. All they have left of their own are the jeep wrangler, dodge caravan and ram pickups.

>>4153

>pop up lights no longer available

>cars today are essentially bubble wrapped computers on wheels

They're shit.

They aren't cars and they're shit.

>>5163

Seconded.

It's sad that Scion is the only company left that's even trying.

>>5164

Scion a shit

>>5164

scion a shit, not even a good shit

>>5202

Pop ups aren't banned, they're just not used due to "Muh fuel economy" and that it's kinda hard to put them in with the automatic braking system that detects humans 12 miles away, and the crumple zones that ensures the driver dies while the pedestrian lives.

>>5210

pop up headlights are effectively banned by pedestrian safety regs (as are many hood ornaments). The advantage of pop up headlights (lower hood while still meeting mandatory light height) has been negated as high hoods and beltlines are mandated anyway.

>>5211

Didn't think that was a thing, must be the burger land-maplenigger divide.

Cars today if they can even be called cars are shit.

>>4153

The only car with a level of familiarity would be the Mustang. But goodness is it expesnive.

>>5210

Crumple zones are there to make sure the driver survives to buy another car, not to kill them you dumbshit.

>>5371

Oh, I know it's bullshit, but it's just not lethal bullshit. Everything is a moneygrab these days.

They've all gotten fucking fatter. Fatter, and less distinctive.

>>5352

Last I heard, there wasn't going to be a production model, and if there was it was going to be front wheel drive.

>>5371

Those are both made in China FYI