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70e254 No.5376

See title

Basically what if the last new car design came out in 1990, and every car made after that point was just an old design with newer-designed parts?

>Citroen ZX

>80s VW Jetta

>and a G-Klasse

03845e No.5378

File: 1437322168846.jpg (2.75 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, rustbody.jpg)

What would happen is my former favorite auto company wouldn't have turned into "those fags who make nothing but fwd crossovers for soccer moms"


bd5807 No.5379

Then world peace would be recognized.


05cc8d No.5383

>>5378

Ive always wondered why the late 80s ear;y 90s japo pickup makers dont remanufacture thos pickups.

They would sell quick. Who wouldnt want an econobox pickup?


70e254 No.5385

File: 1437339525399-0.jpg (280.96 KB, 950x535, 190:107, Nissan Juke.jpg)

File: 1437339525401-1.jpg (36.12 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Subaru Tribeca.jpg)

>>5383

There's the Toyota Pickup, but that's being discontinued this year.

I mean fuck, why don't manufacturers make simple boxes with improved safety since the 80s/90s? Easy to repair if they get damaged as it's just straight pieces of metal, durable, and inexpensive. Of course, car manufacturers don't want to make those, but of course, they find room to make these:


03845e No.5387

>>5385

Nissan tried to do a D23 in the states and got screwed over by regulations.

QR and VQ suck anyway. The only way they'd have been able to make it good is to put a VK56 in a Hardbody sized chassis.


d93fc9 No.5564

didn't the G change a lot underneath during its run?


9dc14a No.5594

http://www.nissan.com.mx/tsuru/

Yes sir you can buy a 2016 B13 Sentra…

In Mexico…

:C


e582c3 No.5602

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>>5385

Pic related.


6ccd02 No.5603

>>5385

>Easy to repair if they get damaged as it's just straight pieces of metal, durable, and inexpensive.

You just answered your own question.

Too much money to be had in the insurance racket these days.

>having a chat with an old man at work one day

>he used to run an independent tow truck business

>offered dirt cheap towing services to low income people

>started picking up more business when word got around

>all of a sudden, he gets hit with more and more inspections over minor faults

>gets muscled out with noncompliance notices

>eventually has to quit

I'm sure stories like this aren't rare. In an ideal world, people would be sold cars that were simple and easy to fix/maintain themselves (introducing a bleeding outlet for oil that runs from the sump to the side of the vehicle, for example, so that even less abled people can change their own oil.) However, if cars were too easy to fix, that will leave very little money to be had off repairers and insurance cartels.


70e254 No.5605

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>>5594

Wow, apart from the updated grill (which can easily be retrofitted) it looks identical to an actual Sentra that would have rolled off the production line in 1994. Even the interior still looks like something from that period, they didn't even bother to lift a generic steering wheel from a more common model.


19a58e No.5611

Mitsubishi is kinda stuck in the 2000s. Does that count?


513c65 No.5613

>>5594

Why do they cost $130,000?


4867d9 No.5617

>>5613

pesos…


70e254 No.5618

>>5611

It's kind of depressing to see the Evo still stuck in a time warp from 2007 after all these years, considering that from 1992 - 2006 we practically got a new model every 18 months.


a660da No.5625

>>5376

They'd still suck, because they don't have such things as driver aids, ergonomics, or safety.


bd5807 No.5627

>>5625

>valuing safety and ergonomics (adjustable for less) over driving dynamics and power (need knowledge of car and MAD DO$H)

What are you, stupid?


946626 No.5629

>>5625

10/10 bait. Incoming spaghetti.

The driver aids and safety features you refer to are nothing but a crutch for people who both don't want to learn how to drive and can't pay attention long enough to drive.

Maybe on a 3 ton truck some of them would be nice, but in an I4 they're just dead weight and alternator load.

Also so much attention has been put into that garbage that I've seen a modern Civic with its hood on the road. This shouldn't be such a common thing for modern cars. Where did all the engineering go? Oh, into compliance with draconian regulations.

At least old cars weren't something straight out of the society in Demolition Man.


d4d5ce No.5631

>>5629

>The driver aids and safety features you refer to are nothing but a crutch for people who both don't want to learn how to drive and can't pay attention long enough to drive.

not to be that guy, but for a daily I would like to have a certain degree of safety devices because I am aware I can be hit by a reckless/drunk fuckstick.


4653bd No.5634

>>5631

I DD'ed a Volvo with a roll cage for about a year, got hit hard during that time hippie inna 90s corolla rear-ended me at a yellow light I drove away, his car was totaled

1969 Volvo 142, totaled it later that week after finding out how much it was going to cost to unfuck the body


70e254 No.5659

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>>5625

>driver aids

Not necessary for a vehicle. Before cruise control there were weights and bungee cords. Before power steering you just got /fit/. And every person ought to learn to drive stick before they get the privilege of slushboxes.

>ergonomics

You mean the thing that has ensured almost every car manufactured since 2002 looks like pic related? No thanks. Paying for petrol doesn't bother me. I don't care if the aerodynamics on my car are inefficient as fuck. I take form over function when it comes to aesthetics, except for obvious rice shit.

>safety

Safety stopped being a concern for production cars in the late 1970s, when seat belts became mandatory and crumple zones were developed. If you die or get seriously injured in a crash in an unmodified car produced after 1976 or so, you only have yourself to blame. At least the cars from before airbags actually worked. Would fucking suck to have my neck broke just because a malfunctioning micro-bomb in the glovebox. Or to get a throat full of shrapnel, as Takata have learned this year.


366e2f No.5661

>>5629

Automatic stop and things like that are awesome concepts from a software and safety point of view, but indeed crutches. You don't need it unless you're not 100% in the first place, and drivers should never be at less then 100%.

Also it removes control from the driver and I don't much like that.


742259 No.5678

>>5376

I'd be all over an FTO if that were the case

Now and then I have these silly dreams of buying an FTO and converting it to awd


70e254 No.5690

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Gotta say, the Alfa Spider aged like a fine wine. Should have kept making them.


6ccd02 No.5692

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Thinking about it, the most that would need to be done in order to modernize late 90's/early 00's designs is to make the body taller, give it beveled wheel arches and have it run on an eco-friendly 1.3L inline 4 engine.

Most of them would fit right in, or even look better than cars being made today.


d4d5ce No.5721

>>5659

>If you die or get seriously injured in a crash in an unmodified car produced after 1976 or so, you only have yourself to blame

so if i get killed by a drunk/reckless fuck is my fault? that's tumblr logic, anon.


4653bd No.5726

>>5721

>implying you're not at fault

you need to be in his way to crash.


22447d No.5728

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>>5659

How do you get out of pic related. You're red car.


4653bd No.5729

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>>5728

>120mph drifting

it would probably still roll at 55


22447d No.5730

>>5729

>drifting

how fucking dumb are you


4653bd No.5731

>>5730

please the, inform me what your MS paint truck is doing


22447d No.5732


4653bd No.5734

>>5732

>a truck going 120mph

>in conditions that would allow for jackknifing/trailer swing

>on the wrong side of a 4 lane road

>in heavy traffic

how?


70e254 No.5735

>>5728

like the other guy said, I wouldn't have to. 120 in a truck with a trailer is impossible. Also he appears to be aiming straight for me, so he's clearly got some beef and wants to try and hit me. And who's to say I'm not in a truck as well? Your blocks are exactly the same size.


22447d No.5736

>>5735

>being in a truck will stop a jackknifing 18 wheeler from murdering you


6ccd02 No.5738

>>5728

You would have seen it coming from a mile away if you weren't texting at the lights, meaning you could have quickly turned wide right to avoid the oncoming hazard.


bd4229 No.5881

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this shit is being made over here since the beginning of time and it costs about 5k dollars.


ed31ed No.5899

>>5736

If your facing the wrong way you can ;^)


ff4c99 No.8763

>>5659

Re-iterating this point considering the recent death of another victim of Takata airbags


90637b No.8764

>>5881

>that grille

Kill it.


67b988 No.8785

Everyone seems to forget that nearly everything past the late 80's has just been draconian bullshit

>Pedestrian crash standards

That's like designing a hammer not abble to kill people.

>Fuel standards

While it hasn't all bad as it's made engines way more efficent And powerful everyone still buys trucks and SUV's with big ass engines.

>Driving aids

ABS and Traction control are useful in some scenarios but a lot of it's just shit that's gonna be an expensive idiot light down the road. It also encourages people to drive like assholes because they thing "Oh I don't have to worry, the dealer said it had 'hyper safeties' so I'll never crash" then proceeds to plow under a tractor trailer or drive into the ocean after just following the GPS.

>>5726

>It's clearly the guy's fault, he was walking through a park when that dog attacked him.

You're either dumb or a troll.


e98426 No.8793

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>>5383

> Who wouldnt want an econobox pickup?

Econobox pickups are still being made. But I don't think they sell these in the US.


50033a No.8794

>>8793

How come there hasn't been a small econobox pickup made by an american company though?

Saw one of those Fiat pickups irl not long ago, seem rather practical


ccd1a8 No.8797

>>5728

What safety feature is going to save you from an 18 wheeler plowing into you at 120 mph?


798ed1 No.8798

>>5618

Don't worry, they're killing the EVO so that won't happen anymore.


2f5d55 No.8803

>>8797

You sound like a beer-gut dad in a Walgreens parking lot asking questions about somebody's smartcar.

>How much did you pay for it?

>What happens if a big truck hits you?

>What mileage does it get?

>Where are the clowns?

>well, uh, what if a semi truck hits you? What are you gonna do then, smart guy?


ccd1a8 No.8804

>>8803

Read the thread nigger


563ef8 No.8805

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>roads filled with Pro Touring cars

I can dig it

>>8803

>blatantly reposting RCR lines

Roman, please go back to trying to convince us that your SN-95 Mustang isn't just a 2-door Ford Fusion.


0f7e87 No.8807

The Defender until they Canned it

The Pajeets Running Land Rover don't even care about them, they want it to get rid of that part and just become Range Rover

The new Discovery makes me sick

>>5383

What are you talking about, the nips are making more utes than anyone

>Hilux

>Land Cruiser

>BT50

>Navarre

>Patrol

>Triton

I wish Subaru would make a new Brumby though, now that the Commodore and Falcon are soon to dead we'll have no light utility apart from that crappy Proton

>>5385

>Hilux discontinued

That will never happen faggot


abc506 No.8811

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>>5728

>get out of car

>run


d4e0b1 No.8833

>>5625

You can actually fit all that shit in an older chassis, but you wouldn't have to, because limp-brained teenage girls wouldn't want to drive if it meant being so out of style.


937d44 No.8835

>>8794

I believe it has something to do with how they're taxed … it's not profitable to make a small truck because it'll get taxed to death by the USA government. Funny thing is that a full sized truck doesn't get hit as hard with the taxes due to bullshit tax laws (they involve a combination of size and emissions if I'm remembering right)

that's the TL;DR version of what I know regarding the lack of small pickups in 'murica




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