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File: 1445280911950.png (53.47 KB, 1922x1908, 961:954, shitbox.png)

e75ce4 No.6750

Along with the riced, stanced, and ruined cars of any variety, I also often see cheap cars that have had more work done to them than they are worth. Crapped out US market versions of jap cars with an imported engine, transmission work, intercoolers, turbochargers, the whole she bang.

The first major question is why do poor people have so much money to waste on this shit? The second is why do people spend so much money on a car that is a shitty platform?

Back in the day when you could throw a big block into anything and put it on pro touring suspension, that might actually make sense to make a muscle car/gt, but today, people are putting 10 times the worth of the car into cheap front wheel drive econoboxes?

I don't hate front wheel drive, but it is an established fact that performance and ride quality are generally superior in rear wheel drive cars, especially if the car has a wider track and other features that would come with a more premium platform.

e14525 No.6751

>>6750

Ahaha you fucking suck at drawing

Tl;dr


e75ce4 No.6753

>>6751

>I am going to judge an ms paint drawing done in 30 seconds because the OP required an image

>words are hard


e14525 No.6755

>>6753

I mean, the least he could do is get a decent image to explain his reasoning. His current picture simply shows a "10000 dollar motor" in a "shitbox." What is wrong with said shitbox? What is so good about said motor? Why is the motor mounted on the hood?

I notice OP has insulted front wheel drive. What does he hate about it? Why?

This just seems like a rant, and I see no actual question to answer, therefore I will not answer it.


e75ce4 No.6756

>>6755

>What is wrong with said shitbox?

When a company develops a cheap car, they intend to meet cost targets, as a result, cheap cars are less feature rich, cheaper to manufacture, and less refined than comparatively more expensive cars. There are expensive cars that are crap, but that is due to failed development.

A cheaper car all things being equal will have inferior ride quality, refinement, build quality, materials cost, and other major aspects.

>What is so good about said motor?

The question as stated in the OP versus in the picture, which it seems is all you read, concerns spending disproportionate amounts of money for marginal gains in performance or quality that are hamstrung or bottlenecked by other key aspects of the architecture in the car.

>Why is the motor mounted on the hood?

It is a large supercharger scoop that is mated to the motor.

>I notice OP has insulted front wheel drive. What does he hate about it? Why?

The OP specifically mentions that he does not hate front wheel drive but that it generally underperforms in the vast majority of design targets relative to rear wheel drive and is mostly employed by manufacturers as a cost cutting technique.

Front wheel drive has issues with:

>bump steer

>torque steer

>ride quality (damping and spring adjustments must be made in such a way that compromises ride quality for constant pressure applied to the road such that the car can continue to apply motive force, which is more difficult when the driven wheels are the ones that control steering).

Additionally, when a car accelerates, weight shifts rearward, which is ideal for rear wheel drive as the driven wheels are the ones that bear the majority of weight transfer, making for better contact and stability. Front wheel drive loses much more stability and traction when significant acceleration occurs.

>This just seems like a rant, and I see no actual question to answer, therefore I will not answer it.

There are two questions specifically demarcated. You are not obliged to respond, nor are you even required to be in this thread.


e75ce4 No.6757

I should not have to post a crash course on vehicle dynamics in order to ask a question without being attacked by people who think an Integra is a sports car.


b0e9ba No.6759

>>6750

>Muh V8

>Muh big block

You dumb American.


cd0038 No.6760

>>6751

>>6755

>>6759

No wonder this board is dead, everyone on it is a fucking cunt.


5c77a6 No.6761

my dad bought my car (because i didn't have a job at the time and i needed a car to get to and from college as well as a job when i got one)…i wanted a miata but i got what i got so i might as well work with what i got

anyone, assuming they have the money, can go into a dealer and buy a focus RS or some shit and call it a day

it takes dedication and skill to build up a lesser value car into a gud one and the results are very rewarding since you can make it into nearly any way you want it

plans for my car (mechanically)

>start out with handling

>roadmagnet springs (1.25" drop)

>corksport rear sway bar

>corksport strut bar

>corksport brake pads (not even sure if i'm gonna get these since the brakes on my car are already pretty dank)

>mazdaspeed6 wheels with michelin pilot super sport tires (that probably won't be for a while since i already got on a set of hankook ventus v12 evo2's about a month ago)

>possibly switch from power steering to a more accurate rack and pinion system

>move on to power

>91 octane tune

>magnaflow exhaust

>cold air intake

>if i still need more power, maybe i'll supercharge it somehow (muh linear power)


03ccf3 No.6769

>>6760

>OP comes here bitching about people doing things he doesn't like to their cars

>Implies people who modify their daily drivers to be poor

>Shits on other people driving FWD cars

The actual cunt here is OP. He acts like a fucking woman.


03ccf3 No.6770

>>6761

>He doesn't like turbochargers

That's completely fine. Turbochargers are a bitch to install and tune without murdering the pistons.


383934 No.6771

>>6769

You can polish a turd but its still a turd


03ccf3 No.6772

>>6771

You can claim not to be retarded but you're still a retard.


e75ce4 No.6775

>>6771

>someone who actually read the OP


a915df No.6803

>>6759

>muh overstressed I6

>muh 10000rpm peak HP

I'll enjoy my 302ci V8 that peaks at around 4500rpm


238151 No.6807

>>6803

>all non-V8 engines are overstressed

Tie yourself a noose.


546887 No.6849

>>>6770

>not liking turbos

its fucking normal, if you wouldn't shit in your mouth, why would you make your car shit in it's mouth


e74c4c No.6860

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>>6849

>its fucking normal, if you wouldn't shit in your mouth, why would you make your car shit in it's mouth

A turbo is not EGR you fucking moron. This analogy makes absolutely no sense unless you have no clue how a turbo even works.

The only way this analogy would work is if you shit on a container holding your next meal which compressed the food inside letting you eat more in the next bite than you would have otherwise. You still wouldn't be eating your own shit just using its potential energy to your advantage.


2d95e1 No.6963

>>6803

>302ci

Mah arbitrary units, mah fredums


1f169c No.6986

>>6963

the fact that it annoys people like you to the point of whining about it is enough reason in itself to use SAE units


fe8182 No.7034

>>6986

Yeah, sure, enjoy your 302 bananas.


485ec1 No.7094

>>6986

There's a reason I still use MPH when playing racing games to this day, and it's to trigger all of the metricfags who make themselves known in the comments sections of gameplay as well as real life videos. If it wasn't for them, I probably would be on KMH by now. Same reason why I've never played any of the FNaF or Undertale, and don't intend to. Because they just can't shut the fuck up about it.


e14525 No.7096

>>7094

Well, u see a major difference between your comparisons. Mph, while loosing out to kph, is still a reliable measurement. FnafF and Undertake are incoherent messes, both having mediocre gameplay, a creator with a messiah complex and a rabid fan base with the collective intelligence of my toothbrush.


e14525 No.7097

>>7096

Fuck me, I can't type tonight. Replace that "u" with an "I"


24df63 No.7099

File: 1446969880256.jpg (18.98 KB, 300x300, 1:1, pale-and-disapproving1.jpg)

Why are you samefagging OP.

In >>6753 and >>6756 you talk OP (yourself) as if you're not OP. You do know IDs are on to stop retards like you doing that to pretend people agree with them, right? You expect we, your peers, to respect you and your shitty oppinion when you're too dumb to realize every can see your samefagging? Bruh.

I don't like posting as BO because I prefer to be just another anon that also happens to clean up the spam. But a big red "BOARD OWNER" is the perfect attention grabber for everyone to see what a twat you are.


485ec1 No.7102

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File: 1446980621807-1.jpg (181.29 KB, 750x536, 375:268, Donkey_1_arp_750px.jpg)

>>7099

Ah, BO, now that we've summoned you, could you please remove the wordfilter for the following:

The latter comes out as "niggermobileey" thus confusing literally everyone on the board


e14525 No.7106

>>7099

Fuckin lost it


9e46f1 No.7107

File: 1447010813671.jpg (53.23 KB, 640x480, 4:3, donk-car-2.jpg)

>>7102

done.

"Donk" was filtered to "Niggermobile" for shit like pic related.


b09473 No.7108

>>7107

But anyone seeing pic related instantly recognizes it as a nigger car.




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