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Spoils and troubles, the burden you've bore - pay them no mind, they matter no more. Leave them behind and show me all about the ocean...

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c09f20 No.206[Reply]

The last board owner went AWOL, so I've come to personally take of this board myself. I've deleted a few posts because:

1. No one was replying.

2. They added nothing.

Repost it if you feel cheated (IDGAF).

——————

Lets see if I can condense this. I agree that it's a shame niche boards like this go unused. I'm uncertain if I can inject some new life into it but here we go:

I curate my own library. You may or may not have seen it passed around here or on /fringe/. It's broken into sections covering everything from beginner's stuff to specialist material. It goes up and down. This will give me a decent place to keep track of it.

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

The largest attraction for it right now is that it's probably the only place you're going to find the Warburg scans for a while.

Up next I'll post some links and resources, and just copy/paste the old rules, as they definitely apply.

If anyone thinks the old stickies should go back up, feel free to chime in and I'll pin them back up top, otherwise, they're still in the catalog for the foreseeable future.

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17007e No.235

1. /occult/ is a board with a focus on praxis and discussion of it. It is heavily encouraged that new threads reference some sort of academic material, be it a book, website, video, or whathaveyou. Notable exceptions include requests for material.

On-topic general (read: lacking a source) discussion threads are still allowed (e.g. "What kinds of meditations do you do?"), but users are encouraged to post relevant material (e.g. a book or video where you learned a meditation) in threads like those.

2. Do not create a new thread if a thread on the topic already exists unless the "theme" deviates significantly from the "theme" of the existing thread.

3. No shitposting (unless it makes the mod laugh).

4. Keep discussion civil; express yourself using whatever language you find suitable (within reason), but do not attack/insult another poster.

5. Think before you post. /occult/ encourages high-quality discussion.



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176a24 No.190[Reply]

93

Hello, /occult/. Trying to help revive a dead board here.

Anyone interested in Thelema or, in a broader sense, the works of Aleister Crowley. I often see it/him disparaged on /x/ and /fringe/. I never understood why. It is a marginally "popular" current of occultism and thus attracts a lot of people of varying quality. But I don't think a system should be judged by the failings of its practitioners.

For those unfamiliar or interested in learning more, most works are available online or easily found through torrents.

93 93/93

31cdf6 No.197

Bump for info


5446f7 No.202

Aleister Crowley was a drug addict, alcoholic, fucked men, and possibly lied to by demons.


796a3e No.214

>>190

I'm very interested in Thelema as the new sticky hopefully shows.


84748f No.239

93s to any thelemites out there who might read this old ass post and actually think demons can be a threat to even a fucking Probationer initiated in the GD- there is enough of his work which makes it clear and open to the public despite what most thelemites will tell you face to face that its a shame so few newbies realize that crowley was only an organ of thelema a vessel of transmission and not its leader, not then-unles you were an idiot (and crowley treated his students as they expected to be treated) and certainly not now. i'm a thelemite and i think that crowley is anything more then another practitioner of the Great Work is not any sort of thelemic hero… the only hero a thelemite should have is him or herself. check out liber alef or magick without tears and even crowley will agree he is no fucking role model even for occult practice… your more basic education in most thelemic orders even in his time is dont be an addict or slave to anything or substance or dogma… how simple and yet how hard for you people to understand 93, 93/93


000000 No.241

Be very careful following any of Crowley's teaching or workings..

At the heart of all of it, he appeared to be attempting to bring balance to the world, to rebirth Babylon.. However he seemed to really go off the deep end.

His house is still considered "off limits" and cursed to this day.

I would not be surprised if some of his teachings were to personally bring him power or prestige.

Take everything with a grain of salt, there is wisdom in his words, but there may be insanity there as well.



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5dd522 No.240[Reply]

What can you guys tell me about the number 16? Is there any occult meaning in it?


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39fb74 No.22[Reply]

Sup /occult/, reading any good books lately?
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f299a8 No.199

>>22

magic of believing.


029664 No.224

http://8ch.net/one/


3a9fac No.225

Joseph Campbell's "The Inner Reaches of Outer Space".. not reeeeally occult but.


cf0088 No.226

Earthing: the Most Important Health Discovery Ever? by Clint Ober


37cb36 No.238

http://www.goldenkeylibrary.info/ebooks/white-magic.pdf



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64d354 No.11[Reply]

It really pains me to see this board unused considering I'm the one who asked for it's creation. To remedy this I'm going to try and kick some life into this place by talking about some easy starting texts and resources I use that you can find online.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!C5wQ1JqZ!ics3BJ1RrVWtCOpA1XZyqw

^This is the grand daddy of all text and manual dumps, about a years worth of reading on most of the widely used books and techniques used by Magickal Operators. I would say start with the beginner tab which has a lot of Israel Regardie and Dion Fortune on basic ritual construction, an introduction to The Philosophy of Magick as well as some manuals by Aleister Crowley, and some yoga + some symbol, myth and ritual guides a swell as an intro to chaos magick.

If you are not really interested in Ritual Magick or Results Orientated Magick but want an experience of self realization, or more accurately Consciousness Change go to the same Mega Upload File and go to Robert Anton Wilson and find PROMETHEUS RISES for a basic (if not somewhat outdated) map to your basic brain and how it affects the decisions you make and your conscious actions. Through a process called Nuero-linguistic programming you can affect your habits and retrain your brain, a skill that is absolutely essential to the success of an elaborate ritual to enact a large change or just getting in the mindset to not be NEET fuck.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
http://www.esotericarchives.com/

If you run in to any document you want look up ^these archives will probably have it, if not google it.

BONUS: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/mythlinks.html

^^^ Here is the portal to Germanic Folk Lore archive other European cultures folklore^^^
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4e751c No.198

bumping sticky on dead board for good luck


4f88ec No.204

>>196

I tidied up the mega and the beginner tab is now in the mirror of frater k's temple of solomon the kings mega which is mirrored under the mirror of other megas folder.


9c4275 No.215

>>154

anthromorphiliacs


bca3ae No.236

The link on OP has gone dead, please reupload


0f4310 No.237

For give me for shilling but I recall you posting on /cyber/ about wanting to move. If 8chan dies and whatever monoelain thinks they're working on doesn't pan out I'd be interested in hosting /occult/ on https://penumbra.network . I think /occult/ could fit in well as the site isn't really supposed to be solely about cyberpunk. I'm still working on front end javascript features right now, but the layout and main css is basically done. If you're interested you can just post over there in /meta/.



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515f07 No.146[Reply]

Just wanted to make a post re: the Occult themed IRC channel that originally spawned on /x/. It's been in a bit of a quiet period and I figured with a new board around I'd post it and see if anyone's interested.

It's #thelema on Rizon. There's another not really related channel but that if you come at the right time will be worth being there, which is #hermetica.

Just hoping to get some new blood so we can have decent discussions again.

Ps. Hopefully someone gets why the image is funny.

aab2ed No.149

I stop in #thelema every once in a while, I think I found it on frater Z's website. It's usually silent even though there are always ten people in there. Is there a time when it's active?
For everyone else, I have seen a small amount of really advanced knowledge bubble up in there on a few occasions. They don't really appreciate my aims and opinions, and I've been accused of delusion more than once, so I don't really go there to converse as much as to listen. It's quiet, so I don't stay long.

515f07 No.150

Basically it's unpreidctable when it's going to be active. I'm in there a decent amount and if people talk, I'll generally respond. I sometimes try to start up conversations but it's been rare lately.

That's why I'm posting about it here. Hoping to drum up some new recruits. Thing is though if everyone shows up for 10 seconds and then leaves, it'll never work. Give it some time. If a few people do that, we'll be sorted.

000000 No.222

leave well alone stumble into the afterglow ignite



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d1b950 No.221[Reply]

As far I can see you only have two books from Dr. Rudolf Steiner in your mega. You put them in the Theosophy folder as well which is kind of misleading. How about a Anthroposophy folder?

I could provide some books for it.

I l add a pdf I found on my hard drive that connects some to the dots of the history of occult societies in Europe quite well. I haven´t read the whole text nor do I agree with all what is written there but please don´t put Dr. Steiner and in the Theosophy folder…

A good introduction would be his autobiography "The Story of my Life".

http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA028/TSoML/GA028_index.html

An Interesting site about the O.T.O. which I discovered today:

http://www.parareligion.ch

A great source with all kinds of /occult/ related books:

www.archive.org


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6dc7e6 No.212[Reply]

i was just wondering, what is your occult practice? have you performed any magick? do you have a scientific theory on how and why it exists (i am implying you have a belief in the occult), what works for you and what does not work? what is with the satanic themes in mainstream media? have you ever met anyone who claims they have supernatural abilities (could they prove it?). also occult general thread.

588da2 No.213

>>212

We're pretty dead in here, buddy.

I'm a Thelemite and I've done everything from Banishing to sigils to initiatory work to the Goetia to Enochian.

I have no theory, and I voluntarily refuse to make any harsh statements of worldview. I do like Crowley's comment about undiscovered forces and limitations in knowledge.

Most 'Satanism' in media is try hard edgy shit to troll you. The real occultism is either obvious to the knowing, or subtle to the unknowing; it's not gawdy and Katy Perry isn't the Whore of Babylon.

Thanks for the post though :^)


000000 No.218

>>213

>>212

Hey Frater K, just wanted to thank you for sharing such a well organized library.


d64b1b No.219

I used to be quite interested in the old fringe, but as things progressed and the new one replaced it, I decided I should look elsewhere for occult knowledge. I haven't done much though. I've tried some sigils, meditation and astral projection, but eventually I lost track.

Still, I appreciate the library kept on this section, and would love to see it active.



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930e3d No.51[Reply]

Hello, I'm not new to occultism, but I never had chance to plumb it.

What are possible real benefits from occult rituals?

Are there math-accurate/always giving the same results occult systems?

Are rituals/beliefs/etc. created, made up or actually discovered? If not the last then how does one create a ritual?
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29f534 No.132

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Angel tech is a brilliant book on ritual technology…

seems to me many on this page subscribe to traditional western maps, shall we say…

like the moderator says up top, read Prometheus rising, it will take a while to overstand

there are no shortcuts

dbdd20 No.148

Alot of magic is about being in the right mindset to use universal energies. A ritual is such a broad term. I'll give three different ones just keep in mind that there is much more out there.

1. You have no idea how to channel energy or talk to spirits. So you follow the instructions lighting some candles and saying word for word what is written on the "spell".

You have basically performed a visualisation without knowing it and projected your desire to the universe. If it feels like giving it to you, you can expect to see it happen at some point down the road in a method of it's choosing. The whole of following the spell was to put you in the right state of mind.

2. You need to get rid of some spirit or entity that has decided to start messing around with some person. You grab the sage and light that bitch up. The sage cleans your aura and allows you to channel energy easier due to not having a psychic blockage. you create a energy construct to use as a tool against it and go deal with it.

3. You need to channel more energy than your chakra network could handle on it's own. You make a magic circle designed before hand or fall on you that you usually use. the shaped energy and planned circle program act to channel and contain energy from where ever you're drawing it from. you then go through with whatever it is your planning to do and hope that it holds.

I honestly don't bother with any kind of ritual except for the third one. Once you learn to channel a reasonable amount of energy by yourself without any higher level help you are basically golden.

Sometimes it is fun though to get dressed up and make a big deal out of it.

14adaf No.159

No

and please explain why you think math is math accurate.

It will help me explain why

29f534 No.179

>>148
well thats a very wiccan/alexandrian examples

traditional stuff is OK but too mired in mystical mumbo jumbo with very little technological focus…

Intent is everything

03bbcf No.203

>>179

Using the word "technology" implies a dead and mechanical action. The Universe is very much alive and it is the presence of spirit which makes it so, to deny it makes you susceptible to delusion and even possesion and attack by malevolent entities. Its important to protect yourself in faith in a higher power, lest you learn the hard way.



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3e34d5 No.48[Reply]

What kinds of meditations do you guys do?

Personally, I have a pretty solid routine that seems to work pretty well for now. I start by aligning my chakras and trying to clear my mind a bit. Then I begin breathing in for 4-6 seconds, holding my breath for 4-6 seconds, and exhaling for 4-6 seconds. While I'm doing this I also 'breathe' in energy with my body during my inhale like a sponge soaking up water. Then when I exhale, I make all the energy rush to the top of my head around my crown chakra. After doing this for long enough I have really intense head rushes when I divert the energy to my head, and I can get into a very deep trance after 40 minutes or so. It's very refreshing.
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e72385 No.125

>>48

I stopped meditating for a few months, maybe even longer because my life/house/brain is too much a mess right now.

As a tool to relax, maybe it might be helpful.

But in doing it seriously, building tan tien, circulate chi, etc., I find I risk "accelerated karma." A heap of bad luck decides to pile right on top of me if I mess with the universe too much.

Every person is a nexus the universe flows in and out of, and if you get that pump going too strong you end up with too much universe.

Just trying to keep my house clean and handling my finances I think is a meditation in itself, and when I get that under control I'll go back to plumbing the depths.

Or maybe that means risking not ever meditating, because when will any of us really be satisfied with an equilibrium in our lives? I don't have any answers.

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>>125
A wise man once said, that, nothing in the whole universe is ever permanent, only impermanence is permanent.
True, we may never be "satisfied" with our current living conditions, and when we get frustrated with something in our life, it's because we are refusing to aknowledge change, we are refusing to let go of useless/old/changeable things, at which time we must set ourselves free from the bondage we had with those things, and embrace the new, the unknown which is yet to come.

241c08 No.173

Mostly mindfulness for the sake of anxiety relief, but lately I've been working on something more trance like. I'm working my way up to astral projection, so I've also been thinking about looking up self hypnosis as a way to induce aforementioned trance.

835922 No.200

>>48

Affirmation. If you believe in something hard enough, the entire universe will move to accommodate.


835922 No.201

>>170

If all things change, will change itself end.



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3d180c No.133[Reply]

In the Middle Pillar ritual, as described by Regardie, he mentions circulation from Malkuth up to Kether as an inhale and Kether down to Malkuth as an exhale.

I would've thought it'd be opposite - as in, inhale (inspiration) from Kether and exhale (expiration) from Malkuth, generally?

Can either be used, with different purposes? If so, anyone care to elaborate on how they use/interpret this?

Personally, I actually find inhaling from Malkuth to give better results, so far as feelings of well-being go (makes one feel taller), but according to Blavatsky (IIRC), one should always draw first from Kether.
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cce40f No.141

I think perhaps you're putting more thought into it than was intended by the author if it wasn't adequately explained in the source. For the most part, these rituals are based on communications with spirits, which is why there are often revisions by later practitioners. If your intuition is pulling you to do something different, do it that way unless your experience seems to show that it isn't working. Even if you don't fully understand your intuition now, if it is correct the reason will be revealed to you later.

93c4f0 No.161

>The New American Movement [NAM] exists to help organize democratic socialism in the United States. Our aim is to establish working-class control of the enormous productive capacity of American Industry, to create a society that will provide material comfort and security for all people, and in which the full and free development of every individual will be the basic goal. Such a society will strive for decentralization of decision making, an end to bureaucratic rule, and participation of all people in shaping their own lives and the direction of society. We believe the elimination of sexist and racist institutions and the dismantling of American economic and social control abroad are central to the struggle for socialism.

>>133
Sounds like some OWS bullshit to me, I don't trust it.

93c4f0 No.162

>>161
meant to quote >>138

cce40f No.164

I've already responded once, but I came across something that I think is relevant to this conversation. The middle pillar ritual is, the way I learned it anyway, basically an energy building exercise. I'm reading a Robert Bruce book right now which suggests a similar practice in which you pull energy from the feet up to the scalp with an inhale, then push it back down to the solar plexus to be stored with an exhale. I'm not sure if you're familiar with chakras or Taoism, but both ideas place an energy center there. I've often seen the tree of life drawn in relation to chakras, and I think this is where the middle pillar ritual comes from.
The book also states that the hands and feet are points from which energy is gathered from the world around you, while the head is more prone to release energy. I think this is why it should be fine with an inhale drawing from the bottom, as you are pulling energy into yourself with the air. As you exhale, you are letting the energy fall into place.
I don't understand your post one hundred percent because it's been so long since I've done the mpr. I don't remember how it was explained to me. I believe my post is relevant, but even if it isn't, I hope it's something to think about.

c0250b No.168

>>164

>the hands and feet are points from which energy is gathered from the world around you
This is what confuses me. The Middle Pillar, as I understand it, aims to pull energy from Kether. "Inhalation" I generally regard as pulling from.

As the energy from the Middle Pillar has its root in Kether (the head), I would've thought this is where we'd inhale from.

… unless, maybe, the Middle Pillar aims to sequentially pull energy from Kether downwards to Malkuth… and then the circulation is an attempt to circulate that energy which has been seated in Malkuth (The Earth) throughout the body?

Any experienced magick-fags want to
chime in?

(Also, will try the exercise you mentioned and let you know how it goes)


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ed5731 No.89[Reply]

>he advocates the likes of Crowley
>he thinks British occultists like Israel Regardie and Dion Fortune are shit (I think I might like her book on magical thoughtforms though when I'm done reading it, we'll see… and the psychic self-defence book might not turn out to be all that bad too but I have low expectations for it, it'll probably be underwhelming)
>he promotes ritual magick as a starting point into the occult when ritual really is to support a process and not the whole of the work
>he also likes RAW and probably Austin Osman Spare although I don't see you mentioning the later
>he never mentions Phil Hine as an introductory author, even though he's actually a pretty based introduction
>no mention of Hermeticism
>most of what you're promoting is post-modernist, existential, psychological, etc. based models of magick
>most of it also LHP, sex and drugs, degenerate magick
>no ascetic master race magick
>not that LHP is bad just the sex and drugs part, the killing and torture is fine

Get on my level.
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1dbf0b No.114

>>112

>Prometheus Rising was an eye-opener to me.

I just came to this board to agree with you on this, and now I'm out.

ed5731 No.117

>>112
If you think it's "all in your head" or have any other self-limiting beliefs you fuck over your potential.

Thoughts manifest reality – self-limiting thoughts prevent you from crossing certain boundaries.

A psychological approach is dampening to magical power.

88af8c No.119

>>117

one of many approaches creates contex

061e37 No.163

>not that LHP is bad just the sex and drugs part, the killing and torture is fine
This huge edgelord.

ae452c No.167

>>117
RAW would agree with you. When he talks about it being all in your head, he really means ALL, in the hermetic way of the universe being mind.

He just had an idiosyncratic way of writing these ideas that was designed for the reader to come to their own conclusions.


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031ebc No.31[Reply]

Has anyone even noticed an increase in intensity of ritualistic effect when under the influence of drugs and, in particular, cannabis?

I've noticed that when doing the LBRP I almost get knocked over while vibrating the God names. However, when sober, the effect is decreased substantially.

Middle Pillar Ritual is similar. As soon as I vibrate (even if only mentally) AHYH I get an intense buzzing in Kether which, if continued, makes it feel as though my head is going to explode. Because of this, I usually only repeat this vibration once and proceed onto the other areas as per normal. I'm curious as to what might happen if I were to continue with Kether, but have always chickened out due to the discomfort it causes.

I theorise that this might have to do with making oneself grow on the astral (in Regardie's instructions, this usually precedes the LBRP) and suspect that marijuana might automatically induce this, given that it amplifies one's senses. (On that note, should this exercise also precede the Middle Pillar?)

Anyone else know what might be happening here? Any theories?

c9f404 No.35

>>31
Mind-altering substances have been used for spiritual purposes for thousands of years. They help you get into a different mode of consciousness and look at things from a different perspective. Weed, like you said, also heightens your senses, so pretty much everything you do is going to be more intense.

85eefe No.127

>>31

I'm stealing from Aldous Huxley a bit, but this is mostly me:

Your brain takes pure reality and filters and categorizes it and makes it useful, relates stimuli to an ego, constructs an ego from stimuli.

As you turn off the filter, you get an unhindered flow of reality. Or the part of your brain responsible for separating the significant from the insignificant gets impaired.

But consider falling asleep and what happens to your ego as that happens. In delta sleep your ego has dissolved and you're no one and everyone. Somewhere between awake and unconscious, and by extension between alert and impaired, is therefore where you're going to have transpersonal experiences and go beyond yourself.

15cc91 No.147

I have found that when I get really baked that I'll suddenly have a massive insight on metaphysics. For some parts of a acid trip my Chakra network will sync up and I'll be more connected to the universe. I can do things that would normally require me to prepare my network before hand.

43c2d7 No.156

got baked and aquired yogi complete breath. weed helps.

8739bf No.157

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"In order to evoke Phantoms it is sufficient to intoxicate oneself or to render oneself mad; for Phantoms are ever the companions of drunkenness and of vertigo.

The Phosphorus of the imagination, abandoned to all the caprices of over-excited and diseased nerves, fills itself with Monsters and absurd visions.

We can also arrive at hallucination by mingling together wakefulness and sleep by the graduated use of narcotics; but such actions are crimes against nature."

The Key of Solomon / The Key of Secrets


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4f5987 No.47[Reply]

If anyone has any banners they would like to see go up, post them here and I'll put them up if they're at least somewhat relevant and look nice.

I just made one to replace the default. Let me know what you think of it.

4f5987 No.57

Also let me know if you hate the theme. I won't keep it if enough people don't want it.

8fb4b2 No.72

>>57

I like the theme as in board skin.

About the banner; Would You rather want there to be some serious/climatic only, or also some rather humoristic ones?

4f5987 No.73

>>72
Humour is fine as long as it's not totally ridiculous. We don't want people to see a ridiculous banner and think that this is a place where they can shitpost or troll. Being the occult board, I already have to filter enough trolls out as it is.

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5605f5 No.58[Reply]

How about we dump some random occult images/tutorials and - perhaps in the distant future - sort them for some sake? I have few pics someone might find interesting
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503dae No.107

>>77
Rituals are a supporting thing to help magick work, they are not the source of magick in itself, and every single ritual will yield nothing for you.

Magick is not as simple as dressing up, doing some movements, saying some words, etc. there's more at play than that stuff.

77b929 No.122

>>107
So in fact none of this stuff it's going to work, isn't it?

2dc86f No.123

>>122
>So in fact none of this stuff it's going to work, isn't it?

wat. I think you mean something along the lines of "none of this is going to work"?

Well, yes and no, I guess. No the rituals themselves do absolutely nothing. You need to already know the basics of magickal practice before rituals have a point. You need to be able to "cast spells" first, and rituals help you achieve whatever it is you're wanting to do.

Rituals are tools. Preforming a ritual with no prior magickal experience is a bit like giving a hammer to a man with no hands to hold it.

77b929 No.130

>>123
Sorry for the engrish, not my main lenguage.
>Rituals are tools. Preforming a ritual with no prior magickal experience is a bit like giving a hammer to a man with no hands to hold it.
I want to download some of the books that are posted in the sticky, where should i start?

2dc86f No.131

>>130
There's a "beginners" folder that you can download. You should try Aleister Crowley's Magick in Theory and Practice


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