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Visita Interiora Terrae Rectificando Invenies Occultum Lapidem

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We lost yet another board owner, though it was a year or more since he last logged in. In addition, we lost his digital library which is a shame since it sounded very extensive. As the new BO, I do not plan on changing the direction of the board. The old rules still apply, however, if anyone has suggestions regarding rules, settings, or the board in general, this thread will be left unlocked for that purpose.


1. /occult/ is a board with a focus on praxis and discussion of it. It is heavily encouraged that new threads reference some sort of academic material, be it a book, website, video, or whathaveyou. Notable exceptions include requests for material.

On-topic general (read: lacking a source) discussion threads are still allowed (e.g. "What kinds of meditations do you do?"), but users are encouraged to post relevant material (e.g. a book or video where you learned a meditation) in threads like those.

2. Do not create a new thread if a thread on the topic already exists unless the "theme" deviates significantly from the "theme" of the existing thread.

3. No shitposting (unless it makes the mod laugh).

4. Keep discussion civil; express yourself using whatever language you find suitable (within reason), but do not attack/insult another poster.

5. Think before you post. /occult/ encourages high-quality discussion.

6. Global Rules always apply.

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So, I removed some sigil posts left in the sticky threads. If you want people to charge your sigils for you, create a separate sigil thread so people can scroll up and down in a hypnotic state while starring at them. Refrain from posting them in the stickies, unless they are attached with pertinent information regarding the topic of that sticky. Otherwise, all they do is clog up the threads. Sorry to be a pest in this regards, but this is not >>>/fringe/.

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For that eclipse, a small partial in my area, I went outside and did observe a change in the light and that did indeed affect the feeling of the whole afternoon. I also lit a small fire to commemorate. Since I used gasoline and waiting too long to light it, the fumes made a nice little fireball that scared the shit out of me. I'll remember that.

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I wanted to create this thread for the less artistically inclined. I myself am somewhat in this boat. Generally I try to make things myself unless it is too elaborate. This thread will be for posting sites to find supplies or finished products to aid in ritual work. If you know of any besides the ones I posted, please add them.



https://www.azothart.com/ (Good site for buying vestments pertaining to multiple initiatory paths, from A.A., OTO, GD, Martinism, and MM Freemasonry.)


http://jasonaugustusnewcomb.com/store/index.html (Bought a circle from him and it was very well made.)



http://www.ixaxaar.com/ (Cavarly Cross Botanica)


This is the first batch I have for now. Most of my bookmarked sites are no longer working. Plus I am missing a few that I have forgotten the names of. I didn't add any Wiccan/Witchcraft sites, not because I have anything against those paths, but because they are a dime a dozen to find on the web.

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Okay another update. I think I will stop doing updates as it drags out this thread. Eventually I want to clean it up and organize the links better and have it be a separate locked thread, so that you can simply go in and browse the links without having to scroll past a bunch of dialog. Link suggestions would be in a separate meta thread. Anyways, I added two new nice looking book publishers. Their links are right before the RAMS link. Still no activity from Rawn, but I plan to send an email to David Coleman to inquire if Rawn has retired, since they were in collaboration at one time. Coleman still has activity on his blog, so I figure I would give it a shot. https://astralvisions.wordpress.com/

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How is your life as an occultist anons ?

Or how is your life AFTER becoming one?


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>How is your life as an occultist anons ?

I suppose no different than most others. I get up go to work, study for school, eat three meals a day and go to bed. I suppose I just have many more unusual hobbies.


I am bumping threads to see if posts are missing.


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>How is your life as an occultist anons ?

My life has been much better since getting into occultism and dedicating my current conscious existence to it.

There is nothing else out there which is worth as much time and dedication as practicing the occult. It is the one true path that pays off the time investment in more ways that you can imagine. Opening up doorways to worlds beyond mundane comprehension and gaining skills which could be considered unnatural. It is our path of evolution and must be pursued if you wish to become anything more then what you currently are.


Demonstrably better.


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Pure misery. It's my own fault, though. I make a study of the occult, but I can't bring myself to practice it. I'm still addicted to drinking, but not nearly as bad. Usually just a six pack of the light stuff a night, but that's just not good enough. I'm also mentally shot from years of abuse, and bad dieting, I'm 5'11" and 115lbs. I thought the occult would give me and out; would elevate me as a human being. No, it just revealed many truths not meant for my eyes and ears. Now I'm just waiting to die. This world didn't teach me anything through trial and error. No, instead it beat me into submission, and continues to do so. Not all of us are so lucky. Sometimes life picks a few of us and never stops beating us up. Want to get ahead? Are you gettimg ahead? You think you are until life sweeps EVERY dream and effort you have or make right from under your feet. I wish I could just make a move without it falling apart in front of me.

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This is for all those random questions regarding magic and mysticism that do not really need a separate thread. Since we are a slow board, random questions as threads clutter it up.

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>more likely to believe in occultism

Yes, but it depends because many mainstream religions (especially monotheistic ones) declared long ago that any kind of occultism is taboo and evil. Heavily dogmatic people are in general more prone to discard occultism because it's either "evil" or "fake".

>never had a religious experience

No worries anon. They're quite easy to come by with a bit of dedication and meditation. Visualization, mantra, yoga, are all quite profound and rather simple means of opening yourself to the spiritual. You just need to filter out the bullshit and white noise and you'll get there soon enough. Alternatively you can take a good dose of mushrooms or dmt or lsd to get intense spiritual experiences aswell. But substances like these are in many ways simply substitute for the real thing (which is happening in your mind and can be accessed without those substances). Weed and alcohol work aswell but differently. Weed is incredibly good for visualization and you'd be surprised how easily impressions from your subconscious enter your consciousness when you let it.

>if I didn't get anything out of mainstream religion I'll probably not feel like occultism works, right?

Makes sense, but it's often the opposite. Many people that start out in occultism have the urge to do so precisely because mainstream religion (religion as in mass ritualised behaviour) doesn't scratch that "real deep truth" itch. They want to know where this stuff comes from and whether there is real power to be found in such practices, because the power (information/energy/whatever) the mainstream affords them feels shallow.

>lifestylism like most religion

Yes and no. If it was just a hobby to better your character and to escape from societal dread it would already be probably the most awesome hobby one can have. However, most if not all of these practices have serious spiritual consequences. You align yourself with powers that are not to be fucked with by the mundane normie because theiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>But substances like these are in many ways simply substitute for the real thing

Reminds me of the story when Ram Dass gave Maharaji a ton of lsd and Maharaji was completely unaffected by it. If you haven't heard the story it starts at 7:04 mark.


Looks like we had another mess up with the server like what happened a year ago. We are missing multiple posts from the several threads.


So I recently started studying the occult, and today after checking my mail box (the physical one where letters go) I found an advertisement for a Kabbalah studies center, which also sells supplies, protection sigils, etc.

Now my question is: is this something worth looking into or it's only a coincidence? I just want a bit of guidance about what things are just coincidencens and what things happen to me for a reason, I'm not sure if I'm making myself be understood. Thanks for any opinion on the matter by the way.



I would be weary of most places that want to attempt to teach you Kabbalah. Some of them are cult-like, I am thinking of the Brittany Spears/Madonna group. Study the foundation first with texts of the Sefer Yetzirah, Sefer Bahir, the Zohar, etc.

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I feel like Rosicrucians are and Rosicrucianism is never talked about due to other societies and ideologies being more popular and mainstream.

They have a lot of really insightful, interesting, and supposedly ancient mystic, occult, and esoteric ideas that are never talked about.

What do you think about it /occult/?

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Post from the anyone mod account to keep thread alive… Rosicrucianism permeates the western tradition since it is comprised thereof…


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I read something that the Rosicrucian flower was more linked to the Lutheran church, because it was from reformation Germany that Rosicrucianism took off.





They're like Freemasons in that they used to be legit, but now they're subverted. You can still probably find useful things from them, but remember that you need to paddle correctly or the water will do with you whatever it pleases.



Some of the more recent groups are for sure. However, the philosophy developed independent of the Masonic order, which at the time had not yet shifted over to the speculative side.

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Turns out these guys are LHP Occultists. They were using internet autists to piece together old, eclectic grimoires. They're coming forward soon as well. They're picking occultists in the public eye to be conduits for their work at the moment.

>Cicada is a technomystical order. Our philosophy is neither a religion nor a science, but a blend of spirituality, technology, science, and mysticism. We are more closely related to Demonolatry, which after the numerious texts, scripts and unpublished cryptic books (including the notorious Liber Primus) we have decoded afterall these many years, we like to call our path Demonurgy.

>All those years that we were working and at the same time observed, we grew sick and tired of the “famous” occultists. Did you make enough money based on imaginary theories? Did you build a strong reputation based on marketing? We see these people as members of several groups, but never reply to nor help the new people on this path. If you seek help, you must buy their books! Or their online courses! This must stop. And it will! Demonic will, and does provide all the information that you need for free, who are you that you dare sell them for personal profit?

That's right. People of all ages will have free access to centuries of esoteric knowledge, modern advancements in "deivices" to work in demonolatry and all of these greedy magian-influenced retards will fade into the void.




They didn't use any kind of PGP signing. Probably fake.


>no metadata whatsoever

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>"hello" and not any form of code

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>some webm with trippy visuals, obvious 3d animated but clearly not in the usual style

not 3301.



well, they are coming out again

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I'll start, if anyone has any, please contribute. Bonus points if you have one where someone tests them scientifically.

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How would one go about making something like that?



Have regular match material on the outside, coating a core of something nonflammable, so it self-extinguishes instead of igniting the whole match. I couldn't imagine someone taking the time to do such a thing though.


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This is what people on /tg/ threads refer to as a "CYOA", follow the instructions, choose your corruptions, your tomes and if you are willing to go really far, your pact obligations, the tiers define the time it will take you to learn the spells, and even if there are some rituals that can give you immortality, it's probably a good idea to learn some basic, very useful spells in your younger years for protection.

The author said corruptions aren't cumulative, that is with let's say 3 corruptions you can get all spells that only require 3 corruptions, pact obligations are cumulative, they are measured on years and can be taken repeated times on the same category (e.g. if you take discord you can choose to promise to kill more than one important person each decade)

The author said the other two pics are what you get if you seek the "another type of darkness" option in the tome section, they are all about necromancy.

And finally, i wanted to share this here (i didn't even knew this board existed a few minutes ago, i just searched for occultism on the frontpage search engine) because the author said he put at least some effort in researching old folklore or real witchcraft, so maybe you would be the most likely to enjoy it.

Hope you like it, people on /tg/ either loved it or thought it was too edgy, i liked the rituals a lot.

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Usually that only happens when multiple posts come in within a short amount of time.


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Alright, I'll test with this post and see if it works now.

Sorry for bumping the thread last time, didn't mean to, I don't want to seem obnoxious.



There are only a few of us, so don't worry about bumping the thread. I like reading about this, so it nice you keep it updated.



Alright, I don't think the author will ever stop updating if he's still going at this point.

By the way, if you are the guy that previously asked what "occult" board games are there without lovecraftian elements, I've found some similar to this CYOA: Aquelarre (first Spanish tabletop game, if I'm not wrong), Witch Hunter and the relatively unknown Danse Macabre.


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I'm going to post two other CYOAs that similarly deal with hard decisions, not particularly related to the occult but they are similarly written (especially 7th Sorcery, which is also based on a tabletop game, much more obvious as the author kind of outright ripped off the descriptions out of the original source. Only the above columns, though, the ones below are completely original.)

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I've been studying the occult and magick for some time now, and the idea of outward manifestation and inward improvement / energy manipulation is intriguing to me, but in my studies I encountered one major problem - I don't know what to ask for.

The more I thought about it, the harder it became. There were at first of course the animal instincts that most people drift to - money, sex and power, but not only are these very frivolous the hollowest of pursuits according to virtually every divine text, it also seemed like a perversion of the divine will to ask for things that banal.

Then came the more esoteric thoughts. True wisdom, the ability to fly with eagles in the misty mountains of time, astral travel and immortality… But then I became nervous. I don't feel like I'm ready to move past the things in my life that I love - my girlfriend, my parents, the small shard of career success I've had. I worry the necessary sacrifice for the requested items above is leaving behind everything worldly I currently hold dear.

So ultimately, I'm all dressed up with nowhere to go. I feel like I've entered Tarkovsky's Stalker, and that I'm in the room with the Wish Granter, but now I can't think of the right thing to ask for. I cannot articulate what I want in words, and if my deepest desires were articulated for me, I would be afraid to learn what they were.

Has anyone else experienced a similar conundrum?



yes, you're right. Normalfaggots cannot be wizards.



So you deny the material pleasures because you wish for higher things and you deny the higher things because you wish for material pleasures.

Stop being indecisive. Choose a path and follow it.

Well, either that or look into divination instead. That you can practice without getting new things. I recommend bowl or lamp divination. It's fun, it just doesn't particularly lead you anywhere on its own. But that's apparently what you want anyway.



There's an old occult story where a man and his wife are ready to devout themselves to the spiritual path, so they go to the temple. They pray and dance and make sacrifice for a month. At the end of the month, the priest tells the man that he now has to allow the priest to have sex with his wife. The man objects, but the priest coyly tells him that if he was truly ready to devout himself to the spiritual path, he would give up all material longing, which would include his wife, so the man lets him.

It was a manipulation of course. The moral is, going on a spiritual pilgrimage doesn't necessarily mean giving up things that are important to you in this world. If that were the case, why would any magician maintain loyalty to any bonds of kinship or connection to the world, which by the way is a spiritual entity itself.

There's a middle ground. Siddhartha learned this. You can go 100% in the spiritual direction and learn nothing just as fast as you can go 100% in the materialist direction and come up empty. Neither one will do you any good if your intention isn't there, and if you aren't ready for hard work. In any ritual, in any adventure, there'll be a sacrifice, but you'll get to choose your poison as you go.

For now, I suggest you simply focus on putting more energy into your works and when the path is ready to be made clear, it will open itself up to you.


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>Has anyone else experienced a similar conundrum?

Yes. There is a Faustian bargain that comes about with every desire we seek to obtain. Introspection is extremely beneficial when we move ahead, it helps to weed out the soul from focusing on desires that are only transitory. Can we really imagine what true wisdom looks like enough to desire it? Every day we live, we become one day wiser. While that sounds cliche, it helped me in my realization to refocus upon my life when I was undergoing some difficult issues. There are some sacrifices we have to make in this work, that if we are not ready to make then we shouldn't be doing this. However, never should it be assumed that we have to give up everything. Some things in life are gifts and we shouldn't sacrifice them away on some imaginary notion of what the future may seem like. If you have reached the point were you cannot contemplate a new desire, this is not necessarily a bad thing. This is generally the time for silence and contemplation. It also isn't uncommon to enter a period of nihilistic "dryness" within the soul, a sort of "dark night of the soul." The remedy is pretty much as >>1702 mentions, stay the course.

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I am an initiate and practitioner in the occult, and listen to my partner who is already experienced talk about a ritual for the transformation of herself into a derivative of succubus, is it even possible to become something in which you need to exist as such?

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The closest that I can possibly think of, are the tales of those with mastery of out-of-body projection, who visit and interact with people. Now I have only read about these tales. I have never met anyone with this ability, as most people I come across can barely project outside their own room (myself included). So, basically her projected self could come and visit you in a sexual manner. Would she be able to draw energy from you in that state? I don't honestly know, but she would definitely need to be phenomenally good at projection and with the ability at energy manipulation. This is something I wouldn't expect to have mastered in a few months or years if at all. This is the stuff of legendary mages and saints.


probably just energy vampirism.


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If she was experienced she wouldn't be talking about retarded shit like trying to turn in to a succubus, honestly she'd be halfway there just going to our attention game winners /bimbo/ and lurking for a while, cause that's basically the mode of consciousness of a succubus, dumb sluts to the absolute extreme, sexuality with nothing else behind it.

tl;dr your girl is probably already a dumb thot and dreams of being the literal archetype of dumb thots

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also addendum: just fyi succubi don't even fuck well, they're the literal embodiment of greedy lovers.



Pretty much this. She won't be able to become a succubus, but she can learn to draw off energy. And if she is like most modern women, she probably pulls a lot as it is without needing esoteric techniques.

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After an a personal experience, I have been called to study the runes of the elder Futhark. I wish to integrate this with my own personal Gnosis and Toa.

I have done much reading, and watched what I can find that seems relevant. I am disappointed with what I have so far found, as many sources list contradictory meanings and seem to miss out on the deeper understanding to which I am seeking.

When I first encountered the rune Fehu, I received immediate insight into it's nature. FIRE, the spark of creation, creative principle, infinite in its ability to create. Uruz, after some struggle to achieve the same insight, came to me as SRUGGLE/STRENGTH, infinite, wild, primal drive towards evolution.

I feel that the runes represent the principles or forces that bind the very fabric of reality, or the fabric of reality itself. I am sure that these correspond to Toaist, Buddhist, Hindu and Gnostic concepts. I sense the pattern, as one would sense that a jigsaw puzzle, when put together, will 'make sense'. I am just struggling to put together the pieces.

I seek to master the runes, in order to construct spells of manifestion and divination, and ultimately, master their use such that I may steer my own consciousness internally using the circuitry of runes, in order to better integrate my Ego with my True Self

These are only words and not convey the insight I received properly. I wish to find sources that corroborate this, as I don't fully trust my own ability and fear a dead end path of self delusion. I don't mean to offend those that disagree, and hold different beliefs, follow different paths. Though it may sound like it, I am not a 'new age' fluff swallower. I only know the words to use to describe things in the paths I have taken and integrated. I seek guidance



> represent the principles or forces that bind the very fabric of reality, or the fabric of reality itself.

I like this. I have often thought of runes being somewhat the same as sigils. Abstract patterns that contain the 'dna' of reality. If we think of language as being what creates our reality, in the sense that without language we cannot give meaning to what we see or experience, then runes and sigils are the most basic way of capturing that essence of meaning.

Have you read any of Jan Fries works? I know he has written a book about the runes entitled Helrunar. I have never read it, so I cannot vouch for how researched it is. However, Jan Fries is very knowledgeable on many paths and he may have insights into the runes missed by other authors. Edred Thorsson(who is actually Stephen Flowers) has written extensively on the runes. He also comes from a background of various traditions.



I've been reading this book on Icelandic Magic for the past day.

This book is a simple introduction to rune, the history of Icelandic Magic, and how Germanic Paganism is well-alive within this practice. This book reminds me of "Wicca A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner" in terms of ease of reading, but it's not cringy like Wicca is.

The runes like >>1121 said are a lot like sigils, but they're like an alphabet to build sigils. Runelore also has the bonus of being able to be used soley for magical purposes which further gives to that "magical" feeling that makes rituals even more powerful on the sub-conscious.

Runes also make cool shapes when you build sigils with them, and the practice of doing so is great if you're interested in Germanic paganism.

Anyone have anymore books & sources on this topic? What about in one of those MEGA libraries?


Edred Thorsson's Futhark and the followup Runelore are both on libgen.io

If I was on my tablet I'd upload em direct for you. Libgen search can be picky, spell it right.

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Why are they so scared? Almost all Christians seem to think that literally every single magical/esoteric tradition, regardless of whether its RHP or LHP, black or white magick, is tantamount to Satanism and is therefore evil. Many if not most even think working with angels, who they are theoretically meant to revere, in an occult context is somehow evil. They usually rationalise it along the lines of "the occult is dangerous, don't mess with it". Sure, magick is dangerous if you aren't careful or do retarded shit, but by the same reasoning they would never drive a car or use the internet.

I know there are some Christian occultists, but why are the vast majority so afraid and morally repulsed by even white RHP magick to the extent that whenever they accidentally succeed in doing it they think its a "miracle" only the Christian god could have done whenever he selectively chooses. In a way I kind of admire any Christian occultists out there for sticking it out despite the sheer ignorance and vitriol most of their co-religionists display regarding any and all matters esoteric.

I'd imagine the situation is similar if probably more actively hostile within Islam (with the possible exception of Sufism), but my first hand experience is only with Christianity.

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>maybe it has to do more with psychopaths finding a niche in order to influence people

This and people who are damaged and resentful towards normality



Bought the book. Aside from minor cosmetic editing issues from being published on a budget, it is packed full of information and copious notes referencing the CCC, the Fathers, and other Vatican documents. Actual magical practice is limited in comparison to other occult books, because the majority of the work is in approaching the sacraments and saints from a new perspective. So far I am impressed, and if I am still impressed by the time I finish, I might pick up some more by him.


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just finished "Initiation into hemetics" by Franz Bardon.what are your thoughts on Bardon? has anybody progressed with his methods?

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There's a collection in the /fringe/ library, in the Hermeticism folder.




Bardon's system is pretty right-hand path once you get further on, especially when working with his pantheon of spirits. However, his foundation work is a boon for the practitioner of any path.


Honest question, why does Bardon get shilled so much? Was is it because of Smiley? I mean no disrespect to Bardon or his work, but I have never been to a place where Bardon was pushed so heavily compared to any other system.



Because most of the people here are neophytes and IIH is one of the best well-rounded sources of information as to how to begin developing magical skills.


Has anyone used Rawn's work alongside Bardon's, such as the 8 temple meditations?

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Anyone have pdfs for any of the books from Kenneth Grant's Typhonian Trilogies? I looked through the library resources and didn't see anything from him unless I overlooked it. Almost every book from the series is above $100.

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Descriptions for some of the other works within the Trilogies. This doesn't cover all the works and some are descriptions for works not traditionally part of the series.



Surprised to see that The Shadow Tarot is back. This used to be almost impossible to find. I guess when you wait long enough stuff will finally be released again.





This is awesome, thanks m8.



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