/phile/ - For those who think young.

Yeah, he calls his mother a bitch.

That's not okay.

>>2217
Although I understand the frustration, I don't think blaming others and attacking people just because they don't understand is right.

>>2218
What this negro said.

cringe…

Christ. It's like an hour long. I only lasted thirty seconds at most. His voice was just way too embarrassing. Walking stereotype.

I can tell he's a fucking faggot from the OP.

He is literally

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the absolute worst candidate to try to talk about this. Im teenaged myself but Im not gunna risk fucking up my entire future by videotaping myself admitting im a paedophile. So clearly the only kind of person who would is a retarded faggot who has no future or is fucking naive enough to believe it wont mess his life up.

We really should try to convince him to take it down, for our and his sake.

>>2218
Its ok to call someone a bitch if they are one. Consider what she did to her son. Keep things in perspective.

>>2233
He's probably in a timezone where it's nighty-nighty time now.

Better luck in ten hours, maybe?

In the meantime, feel free to comment on the vid.

>>2234
What did she do? Im not sitting through that pile of fucking cringe.

>>2234
She wasn't as supportive as he had hoped for, but instead asked herself what she had done wrong, that he turned out that way?

No, that's not a reason for calling your own mother a bitch.

>>2236
It's at about twelve-ish minutes in.
That's where I stopped listening.

>>2237
this

>>2238
I really dont want to listen to his faggot voice. Just tell me what's said.

>>2233
Stop being a weak pone. Bigots love it when you cower in fear. He stood up against bigotry and his selfish mother. He's reacting to people that deny his sexual health over ego.

>>2240
you're him arent you?
Nigger you are the most pathetic, cringey faggot I've ever met. It makes me feel bad knowing we share the same perversion.

Literally

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kill yourself.

>>2241
>>kill yourself

Can we please not do this?

>>2251
I'd like to point out that I once took a retarded ban on /hebe/ for saying "kill yourself," without the "literally" part. I shan't ban anyone for that, however, I would discourage saying that someone should literally kill himself.

If that is the video's poster, guess what? You should talk to him with logic and reason.

Also, he could drive a bit of traffic for us. ;U

>>2257
>>Also, he could drive a bit of traffic for us

He's a trainwreck, and he needs help.

Not a good advertisment for us philes, not at this stage in his coming-to-terms-with-it.

I agree with what he said, but not the way he said it.

>>2270
Maybe you should reconsider your posting career, mr. Edgy.

>good, trusting, constructive relationships can be built independent of sex.
However, it shouldn't necessarily have to be/remain that way.

Though it is also worth distinguishing what is meant by sex. Because I find in arguments like these the person arguing against adult-child sex (anti) thinks of only hardcore sexual intercourse. While the ones arguing for it (pro) encompass other forms of sexual contact and probably even exclude actual sexual intercourse. And if that misconception is cleared up then sometimes both parties realise they actually agree.

"Children are accommodated to conforming to adult's instructions.
That means, basically, that when it comes to sex, they obey."
Plenty of children refuse their parents instructions. Even for things that aren't sex. If they refuse and the parent persists that's something that both pro and anti agree is not okay. If they agree (or obey as it was put) on the other hand is where some division occurs.

"Even when they aren't really comfortable with what is going on."
If they aren't really comfortable with what's going on. The adult should be able to see that. And if he continues both pro and anti would consider that as not okay. However if they are okay and enjoying it* that is where pro and anti's start to have some disagreements.
*it being vague as what "it" is determines how much disagreement there is.

"If the law prevented sex in order to protect minors from possible coercion than it would prevent minors from having sex with one another as well, yet it doesn't."
"Yah, nice try, but minors are equal in development and can therefore communicate more freely about what they want - and what they don't want."
I agree in some cases with this that they can communicate more freely. And both pros and antis would agree that they'd prefer creating an environment where the child feels comfortable communicating freely with adults as well.

To avoid seeming one-sided that everything can be hunky-dory.
It is also likely that between two children, the coercing child could be rather persistent and the coerced child would succumb due to peer pressure. And both anti and pro agree that is not okay.

"A little girl of seven years old, can full well state that "I want to sleep with V.,"
This is where vagueness kicks in. If she means sleeping in the same bed. Both sides possibly have no problem with that.
If it's actually used as a euphemism for intimacy, then one would firstly be wondering where she figured that out from.

"and she can actually mean that she wants to be intimate with me, and that she loves me"
"and she can actually mean" sounds a lot like the adult placing his own interpretation on what she said. If it is actually what she said then going further, intimate is another vague term. Again, the adult shouldn't just take it to mean whatever they think it to mean and assume she just doesn't know what she's talking about, but should be interested in finding out what she means by intimate which again ties back into what was said at the beginning of this post of problems occurring because of mis-assumptions regarding what people mean when they use a broad term.
" … but, she doesn't know what she's saying."
Assuming she did say the word intimate, She does know she said the word intimate, she also had a reason for choosing the word intimate what may differ is what the adult and the child assume intimate is.

"she has no perspective of the consequences, I as a responsible adult must decline."
Even after all I've said above I still agree with this but only because of the current climate towards pedophilia and adult-child sexual interactions, potential jail-time for the adult and mandatory therapy for the child whether she felt abused or not. Not because of some physical, mental or emotional inability to consent.

Though I feel she should be informed of those consequences and not just be declined with the answer "you won't understand" or "you will understand when you're older". Additionally these consequences are another thing that falls under the vague category and another area where pros and antis assume different specific consequences.

"If sex between an adult and minor was proven to be healthy and safe, would you accept it?"
"Yes. As I said, I'm not an anti."
If only it felt like more research was being done to figure this out.

Whoa Nelly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTX3m6XzDFM
Check out the hate in the comments section from this video.

Alvin Monero's a real piece of work.
Check this
>I love to think back to the joyous time when my ex-girlfriend (who works in Federal Corrections) had a sicko receive some GOOD Inmate JUSTICE. Prison inmates worked in collusion with some guards to breach the protective custody wing and got a hold of a child-raper. They broke a broom stick off in his rectum and then ripped his eye-balls and of his face and then force-fed them to him. The piece of shit committed suicide a month later by biting open his own veins. Good riddance!!!!
>This is an issue where the most anti-authoritarian criminals, and the most extreme law enforcement personel——will set their differences aside and join up to deal off-the-record justice to you sick fucks.
I hope from the bottom of my heart that worse fates (than what the broom-stick boy got) await you all in prison.
The better service pedophiles can do is to kill themselves. That would save society the money & resources of having to deal with them. It's simple, if one suddenly feels a neuro-chemical deviance that makes you want childrens' anuses. Please promptly kill yourself.

Also I happen to have gotten a banner with a UAB girl saying "Pedofiles are selfish, and only think about themselves. They should do the only right thing - go kill yourself!"

I feel sad for weak-willed persons that would actually have such a destroyed self-esteem from this.

>>2281
Missed quoting that one paragraph.

>>2281
Added a warning to the subject line. True or not, that's really fucking hard to read.

>>2283
Hmm, as the person who posted that, do you think it would be better if the post was deleted? I would be okay with it if you do decide to do so.

Ironically people say all the time "think of the children: though at times we also have to think about the pedos too.

>>2284
It's contributing to discussion, so it's fine. Just good to have a clear warning there.

>>2285
Okay

>>2281
Great post man, made me laugh for a solid 5 minutes.
By the way I'm the one who made that banner, I couldn't find something hilariously stupid enough to put on it so I just used that. But for you, I'll definitely change it to something in this post.

>>2283
Nigger what the fuck are you doing? By abusing your powers as an admin you're just showing insecurity. Then again at least you didn't delete it.

>>2289
>Nigger what the fuck are you doing?
Nevermind, a warning isn't really merit for accusing an admin of power abuse.

>>2273
You seem to be wanting a theoretical / intellectual discussion about these issues, which makes me think you're mid-twenties and either a single child, or the youngest child of a single parent household (mother being the parent).

You do not have an extensive circle of friends, nor laid out plans for your future.

Anyway. It's not that I neccessarily disagree with you too much on the important points, only if you have to presuppose your arguments with a statement along the line "if we lived in a perfect world where nobody were unkind to eachother and there would be no social stigma attached to moral conditioning"… You kind of don't have so much of an argument.

In a society where it was accepted for kids to seek out sex, would that be okay?

Maybe. Except, to put it in terms of an illustration.

When I eat, I sit down with lots of different food that I find tasty. I enjoy chillies, garlic, mustard, capers, black and white peppers, and so on.
Point number one: My tastes are different from that of a child.

Also, I am at least 2.5 times as heavy as a child.
Point number two: I eat more than a child.

Now, if my satisfaction from eating, would be dependent on eating the same food as a child, and equally much of it, we would have somewhat of a conflict of interest.

And I think if that goes for something as relatively non-coercive in nature - I could easily eat more of the food I liked, after having eaten with a child, and thus been satisfied - then it is way more prone to being coercive, when it comes to sex.

It's not like I would want to satisfy a partner and then go have the kind of sex that I liked, all by myself.

So all in all, no I don't think you can dismiss issues of consent and coercion, just by pulling the "it's society, man"-card.

>>2303
>you're mid-twenties and either a single child, or the youngest child of a single parent household (mother being the parent).
>You do not have an extensive circle of friends, nor laid out plans for your future.
You've missed the mark on quite a few of those, but I really don't think all of this profiling is necessary.

>"if we lived in a perfect world where nobody were unkind to each other and there would be no social stigma attached to moral conditioning"
Yeah, I don't care too much for perfect world arguments unless they come accompanied with steps on how to get to a perfect world. And currently I have no steps to share.

>In a society where it was accepted for kids to seek out sex, would that be okay?
>Maybe.
Unfortunately we don't live in such a society so I can't say for certain though I do believe there is a great chance for things to turn out okay in the future once
- Hysteria towards pedophila is reduced.
- Pedophiles are less provoked to act mainly in their self-interest and self-preservation due to the previously mentioned hysteria.
- Enough focus has been placed on determining those risk factors that lead to harm and working to minimise those.

>Except, to put it in terms of an illustration.
I don't really like illustrations or analogies. Most arguments I see get derailed into arguments over the validity of the chosen analogy and go on for a while due to the differing sides interpreting the analogy differently. And then it ends up no different than attacking a strawman argument which doesn't get anybody anywhere.

Regardless, I gather you are trying to imply that an adult's needs when it comes to sex are not the same as a child's needs when it comes to sex.
As indicated by your point 1 indicating different desires between the two when it comes to sex
And by your point 2 indicating the adult desiring more sex (or more from sex) than a child.

Where thing "start" to differ is that the adult eating food isn't dependent on the child eating food as you pointed out here
>I could easily eat more of the food I liked, after having eaten with a child, and thus been satisfied.

>then it is way more prone to being coercive, when it comes to sex.
And this right here is where I think most pedos make their mistakes. They put their desires before that of the child's.
The plain rapists just don't care to begin with.
The ones that consider themselves ticking time bombs that snap figure well if I'm risking going to jail I might as well go as far as I can. (perhaps if they weren't afraid of jail time they might be more rational, a what if scenario for a later time)

Luckily, there are some, that actually do care about putting the child's desires first. Just as in a two adult relationship where they both consider each others feelings. I think in a adult-child relationship it is even more imperative that the adult be the primary one to consider the child's feelings.

>It's not like I would want to satisfy a partner and then go have the kind of sex that I liked, all by myself.
Why not? I find it the compromise that any decent pedo should be willing to make. They should be caring for the happiness of the child over their own sexual gratification. If that is not sufficient then that is an example of sexual incompatibility (much like an adult man having wanting to do anal/fellatio while an adult woman refuses) and that pedo should be looking elsewhere instead of forcing the child to be accepting of it. The same way we teach men rape is bad, pedos (who don't know it already) can be taught their selfish-based coercion is bad as well.

>So all in all, no I don't think you can dismiss issues of consent and coercion, just by pulling the "it's society, man"-card.
I used to think it was all on society's aversion to the idea of adult-child sexual interactions a long time ago. But as I've grown up (still think I'm in my mid-twenties?) I've been able to see there are problems on both sides that need to be addressed.

The first step is reducing the hysteria towards pedophila which some organisations are working towards by spreading the word that all pedophiles are not "monsters" who would harm a kid. Though a sad implied conditional I notice tied in with that is that it sounds like a concession that pedos have to agree that all sex with children is harmful while any research to the contrary is hushed by pressure in the research community.

>>2306
Thank you for this, I learned not to bother discussing considerations regarding the aspect of harm involved in child-adult sexual encounters, with maps who are pro-cas.

Suffice it to say, if you honestly believe that the question of risk of harm inherent in such an encounter merits discussion, I would like to advice you to please stay away from kids, and if that is not possible, hear this: You may be at risk of erroneously interpreting whatever signals a child sends out, as an invitation to more than what it was intended as.

Again: Don't get involved with kids. You won't be able to handle it, and judge if it is a mistake or not, if they are coming on to you, simply due to your lack of perceiving their mental buildup and evaluating possible future consequences.

Stay away. Please.

>>2289
Nevermind, this isn't really banner material. It's not incoherent enough to be.

>>2281
I bet you're a nice guy friendo.

>>2307
>You may be at risk of erroneously interpreting whatever signals a child sends out, as an invitation to more than what it was intended as.
>Again: Don't get involved with kids. You won't be able to handle it, and judge if it is a mistake or not, if they are coming on to you, simply due to your lack of perceiving their mental buildup and evaluating possible future consequences.
>Stay away. Please.
No need to worry about that. As much time as I might spend around children I don't feel like a ticking bomb around them. I feel about as much of a ticking bomb around them as I do around adults. Sometimes I wonder why so many pedos feel like they have no self-control.
As for actually doing something with a child. It's too early for that. I am aware that regardless of if I were to be as careful as possible the hysteria towards pedophilia and adult-child sexual interactions would be a great factor that leads to future harm. And if it also were the case that I weren't around (due to being in jail or something) to help her deal with all of the confusion surrounding it then that's even more harm. Again another mistake most pedos make in that they don't consider the aftermath.

>Thank you for this, I learned not to bother discussing considerations regarding the aspect of harm involved in child-adult sexual encounters, with maps who are pro-cas.
Okay, thank you as well. It was nice being able to discuss this with someone who seemed reasonable towards the topic. :)

>>2217
I notice the video has been removed.
Maybe the board owner can make some note that the link is now dead.

>>2281
This was a video on the sidebar of that one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lXt0oB9i7o

This is one of the reasons why psychology fails as a form of medicine. All this bullshit about "treatment". Could you imagine replacing every instance of the word "pedophile" in this clip with "homosexual" and see how people respond? The guy would lose his job.

>>2319
>Could you imagine replacing every instance of the word "pedophile" in this clip with "homosexual" and see how people respond?
inb4 some homosexual flies into a rage about being equated with pedophilia.

Psychology has a vested interest in searching for, but not necessarily finding, a "cure" for pedophilia while at the same time ensuring that the status quo of it being accepted that adult-child sexual interactions are always harmful to children involved.
As it ensures further funding not only in providing therapy to the children, but also additional funding to spend searching for a cure.

>>2283
The fuck are you doing? Nigger this is 8chan, not some SJW den. Toughen the fuck up. I'm just as /phile/ as you are, probably more, but jesus. I know that some day I'm going to get my ass handed to me, literally. And I don't sit here shaking in my skin because of it.

did anybody save the mp4 or webm of this video

>>2322
I'm sorry that I'm not as desensitized to horrific acts of self mutilation as you are. But I would daresay most people aren't. I can't even think about what was written there without feeling horribly disturbed.

>>2334
I agree. The boy from the OP video especially.

>>2281
thats obviously the guys fantasy

>>2334
its obviously fake dude, it didnt happen. How that shitty writing could affect anyone is amazing

>>2339
Just the sheer violence of the whole thing, real or not, is cringe inducing. A totally different type of cringe than the OP video produces.

>>2320
Sounds like a load of shit.