/phile/ - For those who think young.

I know how you feel anon. VoA was good a while back, but after it was DDOS'ed a lot of people left. GC was okay too, but it seems to have gone into the shitter lately.

Before the FH debacle there were a few good onion sites that weren't focused on CP, but those are also gone now. Chans seem to be a bunch of edgelords and guys trying to prove their dick is bigger than the other guy's dick. That and outright shitposters.

It seems the days of decent sites are dwindling, which is sad because they can be a good outlet and help to prevent a person from acting instead of talking.

>>4093

Ah yeah, I remember the good ol' days. Do you remember 12chan?

I've asked that question before and there really isn't.

Ignoring the sad reality that we can't really afford to be casual like the lgbt for years to come… that mp4 you up loaded was attractive, thanks for that :D

>>4097

>younger

>southern accent is more apparent

I really want to see more but /phile isn't the place for it.. make a thread or post somewhere dumping them or a link if there already is one.

>>4095

Ah yeah. That's where I was first introduced to Brianna.

>>4094

No, I was always on VoA, GC or onion sites and didn't visit chans at all back then.

>>4095

>An actual mature, good comment.

Because I'm old, lol.

>The edgelord thing is just really stupid and obnoxious, its one of the things I dislike about the anonymity of sites like this.

If the BO's or Mod's did their jobs properly, it would stop, or at least be a lot less.

The anonymity of chans brings out the worst in people.

>>4099

I learned about Brianna and practically every NN model from 12chan. It was a sad, sad day when that site vanished.

onlyhot, like I said before, is an awful spyware ridden shithole. No one posts much anymore and they banned stuff like candydolls.

Honestly, the older I've gotten I prefer candids much more, limited to a small, small selection. I am very picky. Some models are still attractive to me but ehhh just feels less natural.

I like it when girls are at the stage where they are becoming beautiful (12-13) but still a but unrefined. Its hard to explain.

I'll make a topic for her for you guys I guess.

>>4102

I totally get that. 12 and up is my age.

And please do. I used to have all her stuff but lost it :/

>>4098

>>4106

http://8ch.net/phile/res/4103.html

I started a topic but I have a lot to post so its not done yet. Enjoy.

I know what you mean OP.

People want social interactions with "their own kind", and for me posting on forums just doesn't cut it anymore.

One of my goals is to make a MAP Splatoon squad (made a thread about it here on /phile/), although I haven't gotten anyone from here to join yet.

If you want someone to talk to, feel free to mail me at Rosier.8@hmamail.com.

I have Skyped with someone I met on another MAP forum, and I know how helpful it can be to have a "live interaction" with someone who understands you.

there used to be some really nice pedo community sites on onion before the barbarians stormed the city.

a good pedo community site should be text only, focused on support and talking about problems, feelings, security, community building. troll and shit posts should be deleted immediately with banning.

i've seen good pedo communities that have a 'links' section, but no pictures or visuals of any kind. strictly information exchange.

if pedos are ever going to build a strong community and start a movement to stop the hate crimes against non violent pedophiles, community sites like this will be necessary.

i'm an adult pedophile who also is attracted to adult women. my sexual orientation is a secret which i have not shared with my wife (now X) or adult girlfriends.

be safe, we are the most hated minority on the planet.

Jesus Christ, psych forum SUCKS. I registered there two or three days ago and you have little member blogs. Well, I started writing these mostly harmless fictional stories/fantasies with no sexual stuff involving me and the girl, at worst hugging and they have already been removed.

There is a pedo presence there that has good topics but all my replies have yet to be approved and no one ever replayed to my one topic. Fuck.

Guess its just here, VoA and email.

>>4144

This is so unfair. How am I worse than a serial killer for being attracted to cute, bratty little tweens/teens.

Yet I am. I've got no one know, except for what little community we have.

Is it illegal or against of most sites ToS to write stories? I've started doing that, they are erotic enough to be on a site like the sexual story repository but tend to be more "cute" with suggested elements of arousal. I like that more than straight up fuck stories.

>>4141

Hi. I got your mail.

Sadly, you can only recieve mails with hmamail and not send them, I didn't know that when signing up.

If you want we can PM over at VoA. I have an account called FrozenTree. Haven't posted there in a few years, but I can still log in with it, so I assume I can receive PMs.

>>4156

I'll PM you but we gotta be careful, Doodah reads the PMs as does SL. I've gotten bitched out by DD for shit I said in a PM to someone else about the site back in 2011.

>>4157

I sent you a PM as a test.

>>4157

>>4157

DooDah is still around huh?

You can always use hushmail, or mail.com. Or get a free VPN like SecurityKiss to mask your real IP address.

Bad thing about SK is you only get 300Mb a day, but if your not sending images (which you shouldn't do!) it should be enough for emailing back and forth a few times a day.

>>4159

Doodah is pretty old iirc, he will be around forever probably. All that happened was Littlegirl Heaven closed and I was distraught over it at the time and bitched about it someone in PM since this was when VoA stopped allowing pics outside of sigs and avatars.

Doodah was just pissed off and told me to leave if I didn't like the site so much. I know its the mods job to go through PMs to make sure we don't trade pictures or shit but it still pissed me off.

I'm not too smart with networking and IP stuff, I don't actually download CP or "real" illegal stuff, though I did get in trouble for posting pictures on LGH when it turned out to be an FBI honey pot apparently. No legal action taken though.

I feel like at this point if I've done anything objectionable they are going to show up again regardless but I guess it couldn't hurt to use a VPN. I tried a proxy once and it made my internet really slow.

Any reason you're recommending hushmail over the service I use now? Is it just more safe than yandex?

I'll try it if that's the case.

>>4160

DD, SL, JB, all of them are old farts like me, lol.

Actually, I'm not sure if hushmail is a good choice anymore. I seem to recall there being an uproar over something they did. Not sure what it was though. As far as email services go, as long as you aren't doing anything illegal, any service should be okay. I just don't personally letting other people I don't know irl see my IP address and most of them include it in the header information.

You don't really need to be super tech savvy to use a VPN. SecurityKiss is probably the easiest free one I know of. But I'm an overly paranoid old fuck.

>>4174

You're welcome. :)

I plan on started a huge gl community someday.

Forum, chatroom, image gallery, etc. The works

>>4200

Man, I've seen them come and go so much dude.

Been at the community thing almost 10 years now:

Don't make a gallery. Avatars are fine, but gallery just creates a bunch of problems. Every forum I've known with a gallery is either wiped off the internet or taken down, like in VoA's case. They were smart.

You have to be a very strict. moderator with a serious, hard but fair team. Don't be a dick or go power hungry but you have to be paranoid, man.

How do you think VoA has survived so long?

I honestly don't know how 8chan gets by with so many picture postings. The cyber crime units seem so eager to bust anyone and they are struggle with apprehending the kiddie porn dealers on the deep web unless a person fucks up badly. I don't do the deepweb, like I said before, I don't like "porno" or what most people consider "porno". A personal issue I have.

What this means is that they love to apprehend communities and people like us. Not saying it'll happen for posting the shit we do here but you get a forum with an image gallery its most likely going to attract the eye of scrutiny.

I sound paranoid but its fucking true..I know from painful experiences. Thankfully I have not gone to jail. I made a few minor mistakes in the past, I did stupid things that weren't even THAT bad..but it was all they needed to bust down my door and take 4-5 years off my life.

I could never survive prison. I am weak, like a child. I tried the military but was emotionally unfit for it and thrown into seperations.

A chatroom is fine but again you need to heavily moderate it and have it maybe so its only open when certain mods are on. Otherwise what people are gonna do is that they will wait for the mods to be asleep and some individuals will start trading up pictures . Like bad stuff.

I wish you lots of luck on your forum but you need to make it very exclusive, monitor it carefully and approve each registration, don't make it an automatic process.

We need another VoA, make it a nice, good place. VoA and /phile/ to me are the only worthwhile spots on the net for us right now.

I tried GC, I really did, I'm just a big carebear and the place is as toxic as /hebe/. Dare I say its almost the say but instead of underaged edgelords its full of actual assholes and bitter people.

People on GC sent me multiple suicide requests. That's not what I expect from a MAP community that's not on a 'chan style image board.

I really wish more people would come to VoA, I don't get the draw to GC. Its format sucks and most of the people seem to be assholes. You'll always get those but whatever..VoA had its dicks in the day too but they're gone.

Again, I hope things work..but its very hard. I feel so hopeless right now period.

So, regarding GC, I feel like it has the potential to be a lot better. What would fix it? If you could take over as dictator right now on GC, what would you change?

Personally, I'd start banning trolls. The mods suffer everybody's free speech and that's nice and all, but I feel like they don't do shit about shitposts and trolls because of "free speech."

Sadly I'm all alone, and I have no one to really talk about this with as well. So I understand op.

>>4333

yeah man, sure I'd be glad too, what is it? Your Skype? or email? I'll have to make an account, but just let me know.

>>4333

and you're right, his board is better, not perfect by far, but still a lot better than hebe. I cannot even visit it most days due to the sheer stupidity on it.

>>4338

its in the email field, send me one. I'll send you my skype when you mail me.

>>4341

what exactly is the email field? I have a weird computer and it displays stuff funny

>>4342

vyahdis@yandex.com

>>4343

okay thanks lad, I'll shoot you an email and say "it's me" and from then I can make a Skype acct.

>>4343

okay I sent you a message

>>4345

I don't know wtf is going on with yandex.com, can you try vyahdis@gmail.com ?

Sorry

>>4347

yes of course I can

With Infinity Next happening and 8ch adopting halfchan's Red Hat keylogger, there are very few clearnet sites left for us. Tor/Freenet has little NN content, and the message boards there are hardly useful.

Cunnychan is still around, but its pretty meh. If anything I think we should make another clearnet imageboard.

>>4322

"I wish there were a community of support, without all the racism, "edgy" "badass" wannabe troll shit, racism(srsly loads of coloured folks are "philes" too, by slurring them constantly, we decrease this conglomeration of young-lovers we have), and we could express ourselves and our sexuality(as much as possible online), and offer again support and even help"

Amen! I am a WOC who isn't sexually interested in children but I want to be an ally. So I searched online for pro-child love places. Most places bashed it. I came across some sites that were extremely racist, sexist and homophobic. I was quite dishearten because I began to think all child lovers were this way. Please update this thread with a website because I want to be supportive and read pro child love commentary.

Best regards.

>>4914

Oh, God, what the hell is the Red Hat Keylogger?

>>4916

https://medium.com/@josh8chan/why-i-quit-8chan-former-lead-developer-tells-all-e67b3a4891f7

Read it and weep. :(

>>4918

He sounds more like a whiny bitch trying to scare people than anything else.

>>4921

>He sounds more like a whiny bitch trying to scare people than anything else.

I don't think so…

>>4917

>>4918

>>4920

>>4921

>>4923

It's probably fake. Look at the /hebe/ thread also for more information. IF you can put up with its bullshit unmoderated autism.

>>>/hebe/93300

>>4920

I really want to be helpful but trolls love coming in and destroying that. I wish a private forum through invitation only would exist. I would love to help be an ally. Especially because I know children are sexual beings. Maybe I can give an email address in case anyone decides to do this.

>>4920

>>4926

Fake. But there's still a major problem for you chaps (and us) and the reason we can't get any consistent communities formed around our chosen subject.

The board that made this site popular.

No, not the gamergays. Those guys don't care about us. You know what I mean…yeah.

The "Degeneracy!" fags. That's really the actual group that was too extreme for 4chan

I never paid attention to /hebe/ but it seems like it benefitted from either being here already or starting up immediately during the exodus.

For people that just want a safe and serene discussion about their chosen subject, you can't get away with it without /pol/ swooping in and smashing it once your board gets too popular.

Or even just too many IDs at once. >>>/mlp/ only had 400 posts when besieged by pollacks, and they've chased everyone off. I only can use the polish mlp board here (flutter) if I want to talk about it.

Can't get anyone new in because of the rep that it's 'owned by /pol/' either. Pretty rough.

Maybe qtox through tor…?

(tox.chat)

@4915

> I came across some sites that were extremely racist, sexist and homophobic. I was quite dishearten because I began to think all child lovers were this way.

Nah.

The basic problem is the same as, say, /b/, or about half the internet - you really can't ban anyone effectively, anywhere. Meanwhile, most of it is almost completely unmoderated.

Add in the fact that "ooh, pedos" is a GIANT raid target, and… well, yeah.

The only person who believes that way is the person saying it, and probably mostly for attention/to be disruptive. You can further divide by about ten to account for the use of sockpuppetry.

This more or less explains much of the internet. /pol/ raids much, as do a few other sites and one or two astroturf orgs. I'm sorry you (and everyone, really) had to deal with it…

'n thanks for being here.

>>4941

If MAPs compare themselves to gays then take this tactic.

When you see an ally being attacked YOU DEFEND THEM FEROCITY!!!! Being an ally is work and when the very people you support are not supportive of you then why bother? I see gays go to war with people who attack their allies. MAP community??? Nope. A movement can't get any progress if it doesn't have allies.

>>4955

Those people just sound negative, frightful and possibly trolls.

Civil rights cannot be done anonymously. Every disadvantaged groups had people who risked everything for the greater good. Not saying you have to do it but someone does. When MAPs do it then allies like myself will back you up. I can't support MAPs if they don't even support themselves. If MAPs came out I could post links on my personal social media sites. I will not openly support anonymous people because it would allow people to just have their bigotry recharged.

Hopefully not being too harsh but sometimes I must though! I'm an insider looking in (not MAP) but my intentions are to learn and potentially support. I am just waiting you you guys to lead and I will follow!

>>4988

I think the problem we have is we're following the huge collectivist movements of the last century and are witnessing them turn to fascism and the antithesis of what they were. And I'm talking about western society, not MAPs. More of us are realizing what horrible twats many activists are, and want nothing to do with it.

Thus, MAP rights will likely be individualistic in nature. We'll work like #Gamergate did initially, with people standing up for their own rights and others supporting them as individuals. The battlecry won't be "As a MAP I deserve rights" it will be "I should have equal rights which are denied because I'm a MAP".

There's a few people doing little things here and there. Myself, I have a YouTube channel talking about Minor Attraction, which I hope to grow. There's also the podcast, and Antipedophobe Aktion on twitter, which is pretty cool.

We don't need to organize, we need to make our presence known, so others can come to our aid.

Also, you want to learn and maybe support? Please, ask me any questions you like. I love educating, if I can, especially if the questions are thought-provoking. :^)

>>4992

>>4992

Hooray! Good. I will start with what first pops off in my mind. So I apologize if ask questions you have already answered.

1)Are you for parental involvement? People have to get parental permission for things (school trip).

2) Why do MAPs treat sex so lightly?

One of my daughter's friend (15 year old) had STD (treatable). Sex is related to health and it disturbs me that certain MAP disregard the risks involved (even with touching). IMHO recognizing the risk of sex would make me respect the movement more. One of my friend teaches sex education to youth. She involved me that those who don't understand risks of sex are less likely to use protection, more likely to get injuries, more likely to have unwanted pregnancy and were more likely to get an STD.

3) Do you want to remove age of consent?

4) (in a world were kids can consent) How would you handle cases where the child said they didn't consent but the adult said they did?

5) If someone asks me for (let's say a 50 or less) information about minor attracts people. What would you like me to say? I want to make sure that your voice is heard and not my interpretation. I would literally repeat it word for word.

6) What term(s) do you prefer to be called?

7) Do you feel pedo is a slur or do you guys feel you have slurs?

>>5045

1) I think it should be handled case by case. As a general rule, I think specifics should be private, but a general involvement is good. For example, you wouldn't tell a girls father how she loves it when you eat her out, but you might let them know she wants to get more physical with you.

2) There are risks to sex, it's true, but it's not as bad as you might think. Many MAPs are virgins, so they don't have STDs, and aren't attracted to people who might have them anyway (adults). Others understand the dangers of STDs, and take necessary precautions against them. We aren't against sexual safety, we just treat sex lightly because it's not that big of a deal.

Sex education is very important. It's one of the biggest things I advocate for. But I advocate for a complete education, instead of a negatives only one. If all participants are disease and infection free, the only risk is pregnancy, which can be mostly mitigated by contraception and sometimes age. MAPs who neglect these aspects of well being are doing themselves and their partner a huge and potentially devastating disservice, and need to reevaluate their choices.

If you need some more assurance, you could involve the parents. Let them know your sexual health, and let them help in educating their child on how to be sexually healthy.

3) Yes. It's arbitrary and restrictive of children's right to love and be loved.

4) The same way we treat all claims of rape. Look for the evidence. The MAP is innocent until proven guilty. Guilt is punished with imprisonment, or rehabilitation, or whatever. Naturally, the MAP and the child would need to be separated, because something is not right about that relationship for the child to make such a claim.

5) This is difficult to answer, because I don't know the question specifically. I could come up with a soundbite, I guess, but it would help if you could suggest a question or two to answer.

6) Personally, I like being called kind, or a MAP. I actively oppose being called a pedo, or pedophile. But that's my personal preference. I'm sure other disagree with me, and that's fine too.

7) Pedo is a slur. As are things like "Kid Fucker", "Monster", or "Fiddler". If it's intended to separate MAPs from other people, instead of describing a person, than it's likely a slur.

>>5045

The more questions asked the more people have to think in order to answer, so no apologies should be needed. But I will apologize for jumping in.

1) I wish more parents got involved.

2) Not being an extremist/fundamentalist doesn't make any of us negligent. More education, less paranoia and lies spread by antis, fewer tragedies.

3) Yes. Crimes are acts of force and fraud. Rape is rape. Informed consent is consent. Age is irrelevant.

4) This assumes a child would seek an adult for sex. It's enough to go to trial, at which point physical evidence should prove guilt or lack thereof innocence. The last thing we need is another Witch Hunt, Capturing the Freidmans, Duke Lacrosse, etc.

5) You don't have to convince anyone of anything. If they want to see what's really going on and who's causing the real harm they'll see it's probably not who they think it is.

6) Online anything you'd like. I assume you're not the type to yell "Pedo!" at strangers in public, unless they're way outta line obviously.

7) It's only wrong when it's used as a sweeping generalization, including all forms of evil scum, most of whom aren't even pedos. Used in its literal meaning, one who truly loves children (or at least girls) to the point that a girl's happiness and well-being comes before their own, it works fine for me.

>>4203

Sorry? I guess I'd like to be a part of this, but what are VoA, GC, and MAP?

>>5261

VoA is Visions of Alice

GC is GirlChat

MAP is Minor Attracted Person

>>5140

Pedo is definitely a slur, being a pedo brings more shame than being gay.

Sorry, that's just my opinion about it, i really don't think what is happening in these boards like /hebe/, is safe or healthy.

Have a look at the Pedo thread in /b/, you'll see that many pedos are attracted to children still in their diapers.

That's shameful, half of the pedos are drawn to this website because if their mental illness, English is clearly not their first language.

Why are they here? Why are you here?

I nor any sane person would ever allow you to touch a boy or girl without serious consequences.

Get help or just off yourself.

I don't like you and i shouldn't have to tolerate you, delete your loli pics and get help.

Pretty sure I'll get banned for the truth I've said, but my metaphorically stained sleeves are proof that you're broken people with the emotional maturity of the kids you so desperately deny having sexual thoughts about.

>>5269

There are far worse things than being pedo. When I came out to some friends I learned they'd always assumed pedo meant you liked girls AND boys. I set them straight that I only liked girls and their reaction was like, "OH! OK, so he's stuck in little league, but at least he's on the right team. I guess I can live with that."

I'd say off yourself if you knew you were a rapist, but rapists don't waste their time yapping in forums.

>>5270

It's probably shit like Law and Order pushing 'muh pedos are broken don't got no sexual orientation just get it up to terror and rape' memes.

>>5269

>attracted to children still in their diapers

Don't judge them too harshly, anon, they're probably attracted to children after the diapers come off, too. Maybe more so.

>the year it currently is

>not being toddlerfag master race

pshhh kidd

Also, your moral crusade on the internet is retarded and queer.

>>5273

Wow, that is totally a quality response.

Umm okay.

>>4914

>Tor/Freenet has little NN content

Use Frost-Next, subscribe to the Child Models - Girls board.

>>4915

> loads of coloured folks are "philes" too

Can confirm, am colored

Though, there aren't a lot of openly pedo blacks, as a matter of fact, I've met one black pedo, in my entire life.

Guys can someone enlight me what is VoA?

>>5276

Are you a woman?

>>4155

There's Leslita on Asstr, but that's mostly bad fuck stories.

>>5276

I can confirm this as truth. Two of my good friends are philes and I guess you could call them colored (Hispanic and African American) I'm incredibly grateful to have met them. In fact, I even wrote some phile related erotica for one of them. Don't know how good it is though, it contains hebe stuff, lesbian stuff, it's kinda diverse. She appreciates it though.

>>5367

I happen to be a coloured phile.(10 and under for me). Glad to hear it mate. It's hard enough to be able to find a girl that's avaliable,(even though plenty of them are horny) but as a coloured fellow, it would be hard for me to even get close to them. I tend to prefer white lolis(racist scumbags be damned) and a white guy close to them wouldnt be nearly as suspect as i. So not only does the physical vessel I am incarnated in have to deal with working around the bullshit stigma, but ALSO with the stigma of being "black"(well mulatto actually, but the one drop rule is in play so whatever) too. And it is ROUGH, and horrificly lonely.

On the other note, did you meet tbose fellers online or in person?

ps: Im typing on a nintendo 3ds so bear with me anyone reading this.

>>5269

FUCK YOU

>>5516

Why don't you just find some cute black loli?

>>5523

Because the white ones are my PREFERENCE. Did you not read that?

I know this site has been hacked so fuck you. Were not abusers or criminals if i wanna jerk to asian teens thats my right

https://youtu.be/xPAlWYFntcM

>>5516

>It's hard enough to be able to find a girl that's avaliable,(even though plenty of them are horny) but as a coloured fellow, it would be hard for me to even get close to them. I tend to prefer white lolis(racist scumbags be damned) and a white guy close to them wouldnt be nearly as suspect as i. So not only does the physical vessel I am incarnated in have to deal with working around the bullshit stigma, but ALSO with the stigma of being "black"(well mulatto actually, but the one drop rule is in play so whatever) too. And it is ROUGH, and horrificly lonely.

Yeah

>>5541

You are aware that whiten people are a threatened species and that race mixing makes that problem worse, right? I mean, if you feel you must have white loli, okay, chase your dreams, but IMO you should be pragmatic and get what you can get.

>>5552

no whites are NOT a threatened species lmao, anyone that says "white people r under attakkk! bullshit is horribly brainwashed. But i will go after what i want.

>>5557

BRAVO. Well said.

>>5553

>>5557

Hey, idiots, there are tons of black people being cranked out every single day. White populations are on the decline worldwide. The fucking liberals and queers are destroying our race. You want to bitch and moan about your race's problems? Then don't fucking shit on my race's problems. Japanese people are experiencing the same thing, shitheads, except it's at the hands of workoholism and bad cultural trends and otaku.

>>5565

no white people are not in decline you filthy cuntshit and honestly i only care about the pre teens i wanna fuck so fuck off you crying white cunt, fuck idiots like you on stormfront and alex jones make me sick. Anyhap you're delusional. And nothings happening to any japs so fuck off cuntshit, go bitch about whites somewhere else, i only wanna fuck the pre teen lolis you bloody white stinking cunt.

>>5565

okay…so anon got a little too angry and ended up sounding kinda dumb and crazy.

but he wasn't completely wrong. also, i still don't understand WHY THE FUCK what preferences we have matters to anyone else.

sure, the japanese have an aging population, but that has nothing to do with white people. there's plenty of fucking white people, man. you don't think there are tons of white people "being cranked out every single day"? because there are. This whole argument is really dumb and pointless and it's a massive derailment from anything resembling a conversation.

>>5572

Have you ever taken geography? Heard of the "rate of replacement"? White people are reproducing below the rate of replacement. Black people are not.

>>5588

and?

>>5589

And that means we're dying out, bitch. If that trend doesn't reverse, eventually there are no more white people.

>>5590

you lying stinking bitch. no you are not, ill fuck a white 10 and under if i can, you dumb cunt, youre so angry because you know youre wrong you cuntshit.

>>5592

What an anti-intellectual lightweight! White populations are decreasing. It's a fact. Your precious white lolis are getting rarer and rarer. Look, I don't care. I'm more pro-MAP than I am anti-race mixing. Everyone deserves love. But you're obviously kind of a huge asshole. And you need to not be or you'll never get loli.

That was a pretty good thread there for a while. Wish I'd found it before it melted into a puddle of racism.

>>5658

That's /phile/'s board owner for you : ^)

>>5658

There is no racism in this thread at all. There is only science.

>>5660

>assuming I am the BO