/phile/ - For those who think young.

>>5684

I personally do not know any M.A.P.s however, one person and one of my relatives know that i am a M.A.P. Telling the non-relative was the best thing that ever happened to me, and letting the relative find out was the worst.

I am more than willing to share these stories, however don't want to take up too much space on my first reply.

perhaps you could link some chat rooms where you would feel comfortable opening a conversation?

>>5684

I know two MAPs in my state met via the Internet. One is the /hebe/ BO, and he's seen me in person but refuses to show himself because he's a douche. Another I have met in person. He's a non-exclusive pleb, though. Still an all right guy, though.

I don't know any open MAPs but I've caught several of my buddies checking out girls under 13, and a few who openly flirted with a girl who turned out to be 11 (they thought she was 14 at least). Today I have one friend who's told me he's into girls over 12, and another who's a 14-and-up hebe (basically a normal heterosexual). I'm mostly into girls 5-9 and the few friends I've told don't seem to care, partially because the stuff they've admitted to being into is far weirder.

Everyone is secretly into something. Don't feel guilt or shame. You're in good company. Also remember that there are fetishes far more insane (and A LOT less common) than liking teens, preteens, or even children.

>>5690

>I don't know any open MAPs but I've caught several of my buddies checking out girls under 13, and a few who openly flirted with a girl who turned out to be 11 (they thought she was 14 at least).

You contradicted yourself in the very same sentence. You do know open MAPs, just not open paedophiles.

>>5691

They're far from open and they don't go bragging about stuff they'd rather keep secret. But one of them did tell an old guy at the corner store about the 11yo girl at the pool party and all he wanted to know was, "Did she have any tits yet?" Oh, indeed she did, hence his excuse for talking to her.

But you're mostly right, I should've said that I know many secret hebes and maybe a few pedos.

>>5723

OH, GOD, HAWT 11YOS WITH TIDDYZ FUCK 'EM RIGHT IN THE PUSSY!!

Don't know any pedos, the isolation is killing me. I can't go after the bitches I want, and even if I could, they wouldn't want me cause I'm ugly and all, it's starting to eat away at me, and I catch myself feeling more suicidal and homicidal always. I'm into 10 and under exclusively.

>>5728

okay..

1. no reason to call girls bitches

2. you're feeling homocidal.

you should go see someone about that really soon. it's good that you're aware. now go get help.

>>5728

>I'm into 10 and under exclusively.

Welp, that seriously blows. I can't really relate to that, but I'm exclusive to hebe and ephebo. Not completely adverse to a just before puberty, but that's quite impractical. And that's about where it stops for you. Your ten is my twenty. And I have the advantage of being able to get to know girls in my range over time and possibly being able to bang one legally while she's still extremely attractive to me.

However, all girls grow up, so, you have to be ready to stick it out when when they're out of your range. If the top of your range is 10, well, you really don't have a lot of time before that happens. That sucks.

No matter what, for an exclusive MAP of any sort, though, eventually you have to take it and stay with the girl you love even after she's slipped out of the range you like. And ranges do tend to rise with your own age, so keep that in mind.

>>5729

they are bitches

>>5733

a LOT more guys than you think are into 10 and under, they just don't say it, or won't admit it, even here. Have you gone through any isolation?

>>5733

There is nothing wrong with what I Iike, I like what I like.

>>5733

And no it doesn't just "stop" at being "impractical", no need to be so damn judgmental. Shit.

>>5738

He didn't say there was anything wrong with it. He just said that it blows. Which I can understand where he's coming from.

>>5736

dude are you even real? fuck outta here with that shit. seriously lol

I'm female, so most of the time when I reveal that, MAP's, which are most often male, treat me like shit.

I am usually called an anti because of my gender or because I am not willing to touch that which I love so much, girls. I understand many of you may have had negative experiences with women.. but guess what, that wasn't me.

The last thing I would do is out myself to a male MAP in case he gets it in his head that I am somehow an anti and therefore an "enemy".. One anonymous call to the LEO's and I'd be under watch. :-|

Be nicer to each other, maybe then we will be a something of a community.

>>5839

>it seems like most pedos seem

I am deeply retarded

>>5834

>Be nicer to each other, maybe then we will be a something of a community.

That's the entire point of this board, but you just took another user's post, and instead of having a constructive debate, you bitched him out. Look at yourself, too. Not everything is always your fault, but the reverse is also true.

>>5839

>I do wish I could meet more of them but even if there are many people who understand this (which I doubt) there isn't really a safe way to approach them

I've been meeting real MAPs since 2008. I met an online friend in person. We'd probably hang out every week if he lived closer. He's like two hours away. Takes too long to drive there and back. But we have hung out numerous times.

Reason I have the BO tag on right now is for credibility. If you'd like to talk on e-mail or something, let me know. I'd love to share my knowledge with you.

>>5844

Well, gee, that would be very nice of you, give me your email so I can hit you up

>>5850

8chanfan at Gmail dot com

>>5844

>That's the entire point of this board, but you just took another user's post, and instead of having a constructive debate, you bitched him out. Look at yourself, too. Not everything is always your fault, but the reverse is also true.

If people treat me like he did, they don't get a pat on the back and a cookie.

Also, I have no idea what a BO tag is. As for credibility.. if you want proof of who I am.. it ain't going to happen.

>>5844

Oh nevermind, I see what it is now.

Maybe you should look at how females get treated around here and what we get blamed for.

I say I am not willing to have sex with an underage girl because of what the legal establishment will put her through, I am called a man hating dyke who is doing the wrong thing because I am not standing up for the right to fuck kids. Really? That is some twisted logic there.

I have actually stood up in public and defended paedophilia.. I stood for the side of reason against accusations on someone's behalf.

But no.. Because I am a lesbian and female, I am a target. I am blamed for every reason why men around here can't do as they wish..

I am in the same boat ffs. Logic. You lot drive women away.

There's a lot of lesbians out there who like teen girls, some younger.. a hell of a lot. I can tell you that they wouldn't come to a place like this because of the way we get treated.

Nobody says anything because it is so prevalent… now I am getting blamed because some loser decided to go off?

Think.

>>5900

Get out of your ivory tower, Princess. One guy calls you a dyke, throws out some random insults but also some logical arguments, and suddenly you and your persecution complex are on a rampage across the entire board. Make your own thread and try to debate the guy logically or shut the fuck up and post like a normal user.

>>5910

Hypocrite. You didn't approve of my response to him, so you throw names. I see you are not "debating logically".

I am not required to respond in a manner in which your highness approves of.

>>5911

I have theories on it, you are dead on.

When we feel slighted, we look for someone to blame. We all do it. When there's "us and them", we tend to look at "them" first.

It's not the feminists or even the feminazis.. things changed as society changed and unfortunately, we did it wrong. Influence of the church on behaviour deemed acceptable undoubtedly caused changes.

Also, we used to live in much smaller communities. Sexual congress with children very likely meant family, mostly. This would have led to an observation of deformities and such due to inbreeding. This may have had an influence too.

Please, all men, realise. There are female paedophiles out there. We number more than you think. People don't like visiting places where they are unwelcome. Talking about females likes so many do around here.. it drives us out.

We do need to stand together, all of us. We need people to know that paedophilia does not innately mean sexual contact, it does not mean anything other than love of an underage person. (To overly simplify)

Blaming all women is just… pathetic and wrong. There are a lot of MAP females out there and you are blaming them too.

Society changed. Bitching at each other won't help. Forget blame, work on changing things instead.

>>5913

You think calling someone a bigot, among countless other relatively baseless accusations, isn't "calling names"? Lady, engage directly or shut the fuck up. You're being tremendously passive aggressive and shitting up the board. We don't want that here. This isn't fucking /younglove/. Drop it. Also, unironic use of "bigot" in the way you've been using it is the mark of a supreme leftard newfag. This is the Internet. We call people mean names.

Now I'm going to reluctantly respond to the rest of your post. Try not to be a stupid asshole if you want the discussion to continue.

>It's not the feminists or even the feminazis.. things changed as society changed and unfortunately, we did it wrong. Influence of the church on behaviour deemed acceptable undoubtedly caused changes.

>blaming religion instead of feminism

More leftard points.

>Please, all men, realise. There are female paedophiles out there. We number more than you think. People don't like visiting places where they are unwelcome. Talking about females likes so many do around here.. it drives us out.

This is the most open and welcoming board on 8chan. You'd have a point if you were on >>>/hebe/. But here, we are generally pretty nice. You just had a disagreement with one anon, and then you used your confirmation bias to start acting like a martyr. You need to realize your mistake and chill out.

>Blaming all women is just… pathetic and wrong. There are a lot of MAP females out there and you are blaming them too.

Gawd, such a SJW. Nobody here blames all women for this shit. However, women are most likely disproportionately responsible for this shit. And a lot of us have personal experiences that offer credence to that end.

Honestly, stop being offended and start, I dunno, working on solutions or something.

>>5921

Yeah I didn't have to call him names.. I know that. If someone wants to discuss something with me, they don't open with an attack. Simple as that. Anyways

I have already said that I am not going to respond to such people, so can we drop it now?

Some of the feminists are to blame. Some of the church is to blame. I don't think any single group is wholly to blame, I think the situation is much more complex than that and we would be shooting ourselves in the heart to overly simplify. It actually would inevitably disadvantage us as more than one factor plays into the situation.

The fact of the matter is, every SJW and hater aside, the common thought is that we are all rapists. They think that we would assault their children. They "know this", they think that sexual contact inevitably hurts children. When you believe something, you disregard facts to the contrary. ie: Many children masturbate almost from the time they walk, some do it beforehand. It is natural.

I think the first step would be to get health professionals, be they psychologists, neurologists or school counselors to come out and state clearly that children can be sexual and grasp what that means. Nobody listens to the screaming minorities anyway.. when people "know better" than the SJW's… things will change.

>This is the most open and welcoming board on 8chan. You'd have a point if you were on >>>/hebe/. But here, we are generally pretty nice. You just had a disagreement with one anon, and then you used your confirmation bias to start acting like a martyr. You need to realize your mistake and chill out.

Dude I am generalising, the entire body of MAP's tends to be fairly.. anti woman. Have you seen the GL forums? It ain't pretty….

At very least, we are told we need to provide photos, camera proof.. basically we are told we are answerable to any dude on the internet that wants to challenge our gender statement. Then comes the nasty messages in regards to women or lesbians being the reason they can't sleep with their AoA. It may or may not happen much here, but I have seen it here, on this board, before.

I have made the same statements as an anon, without stating gender, and nobody said anything. State I am a woman and suddenly everything changes. :(

I am not an SJW. Seriously. I was told that all dykes and lesbians and women are to blame. I am a paedophile and called an anti because of my gender.. that's beyond reason.

How does that make me an SJW? Foolish statement. You're the one stating women are disproportionately to blame. That's idiotic, this situation has been brewing for generations.. who has been in charge for most of that time? There are a number of factors which caused this situation, some were due to extremists, most were due to misunderstanding of the situation. Even Freud is contested.

You want to blame someone? Blame every rapist, blame the media, blame the church, blame the politicians.. blame those that profit in some way from implementing certain restrictions. Blame the way this is politicized. Present the facts and show people how this matter being politicized is hurting kids. There are kids who are doing time or registered as a sex offender because they sexted. That's politics.

Then ask yourself how you can change that, how you can change peoples opinions. It's not bawwing about women ffs.. that got old in the 1500's.

I am not being an SJW, quite the opposite. I am stating that the situation is far more complex than pointing fingers and women and complaining. I am appealing to reason, think about it. Look at the nations that are far more accepting of age disparity relationships and ask yourself what differs. Look at their political systems, their religions, the standards of behaviour they deem appropriate and the drives behind those.

Look at what changed in the past 500+ years and why.

>>5921

Yeah I didn't have to call him names.. I know that. If someone wants to discuss something with me, they don't open with an attack. Simple as that. Anyways

I have already said that I am not going to respond to such people, so can we drop it now?

Some of the feminists are to blame. Some of the church is to blame. I don't think any single group is wholly to blame, I think the situation is much more complex than that and we would be shooting ourselves in the heart to overly simplify. It actually would inevitably disadvantage us as more than one factor plays into the situation.

The fact of the matter is, every SJW and hater aside, the common thought is that we are all rapists. They think that we would assault their children. They "know this", they think that sexual contact inevitably hurts children. When you believe something, you disregard facts to the contrary. ie: Many children masturbate almost from the time they walk, some do it beforehand. It is natural.

I think the first step would be to get health professionals, be they psychologists, neurologists or school counselors to come out and state clearly that children can be sexual and grasp what that means. Nobody listens to the screaming minorities anyway.. when people "know better" than the SJW's… things will change.

>This is the most open and welcoming board on 8chan. You'd have a point if you were on >>>/hebe/. But here, we are generally pretty nice. You just had a disagreement with one anon, and then you used your confirmation bias to start acting like a martyr. You need to realize your mistake and chill out.

Dude I am generalising, the entire body of MAP's tends to be fairly.. anti woman. Have you seen the GL forums? It ain't pretty….

At very least, we are told we need to provide photos, camera proof.. basically we are told we are answerable to any dude on the internet that wants to challenge our gender statement. Then comes the nasty messages in regards to women or lesbians being the reason they can't sleep with their AoA. It may or may not happen much here, but I have seen it here, on this board, before.

I have made the same statements as an anon, without stating gender, and nobody said anything. State I am a woman and suddenly everything changes. :(

I am not an SJW. Seriously. I was told that all dykes and lesbians and women are to blame. I am a paedophile and called an anti because of my gender.. that's beyond reason.

How does that make me an SJW? Foolish statement. You're the one stating women are disproportionately to blame. That's idiotic, this situation has been brewing for generations.. who has been in charge for most of that time? There are a number of factors which caused this situation, some were due to extremists, most were due to misunderstanding of the situation. Even Freud is contested.

You want to blame someone? Blame every rapist, blame the media, blame the church, blame the politicians.. blame those that profit in some way from implementing certain restrictions. Blame the way this is politicized. Present the facts and show people how this matter being politicized is hurting kids. There are kids who are doing time or registered as a sex offender because they sexted. That's politics.

Then ask yourself how you can change that, how you can change peoples opinions. It's not bawwing about women ffs.. that got old in the 1500's.

I am not being an SJW, quite the opposite. I am stating that the situation is far more complex than pointing fingers and women and complaining. I am appealing to reason, think about it. Look at the nations that are far more accepting of age disparity relationships and ask yourself what differs. Look at their political systems, their religions, the standards of behaviour they deem appropriate and the drives behind those.

Look at what changed in the past 500+ years and why.

>>5921

Dude you couldn't offend me if you tried. I was attempting to get through to a bigot. I failed. Shit happens.

I take everything online with a grain of salt. I hope to find interesting discussions, as opposed to being told that my very existence is why someone is miserable and that all women are to blame. I hope not to be classified, labeled and attacked because I just happen to be a lesbian.

I have been consistently working on solutions for years. I have been studying in various fields so I can make a difference. Honestly, I would stay a paedophile if I was presented with a choice to not be one. To me, young girls are the most beautiful thing in the world and I wouldn't ever want to change my appreciation for that. Self hate? Ha, never.

I am appealing to reason and that is not always welcome. Our brains prefer what we think and believe over what we are presented with, old information over new. If you are interested in having a conversation on how we can change peoples minds, I am all for it. If you just want to point fingers.. don't bother. I don't need yet another person saying exactly the same thing. I have heard it all before.

I am a female, I am a lesbian, I am a paedophile. Not once have I stopped an adult from having an age disparity relationship nor have I ever spoken out against such a thing, I am all for it. (Within reason)

I am for women's rights, but also men's rights and children's rights. In fact, you could simply state I am against oppression of anyone. (And the politicization of things that do not belong in the political sphere of influence!)

I'd like people to remember that. I am not the reason they cannot love the object of their affections, far, far from it. Every woman did not do something against you. I am a paedophile, just like you. I am subject to the same political crap that is going on, just like you.

The difference is that I can talk to other women in a way you cannot, I am trusted in a way that you are not. I can reach those that will just see you as a predator looking to hurt others.

So far, I have noticed there is more capacity for reason on this board than others, but seriously.. the anti woman sentiment.. that is just pathetic. It is not even able to be rationalised. It is a sweeping generalisation that involves a good portion of the world. I could state that men run the world so they are to blame too.. but that won't get us anywhere.

Child molesters have done more to harm our cause than anyone. The media gets just what they want when they hear someone brutalised a child. They are not going to run a story of the loving paedophile, not for some years at least. There are cases where loving relationships are repackaged to be abuse for the courts and media, I am sure you are aware of this.

Look at the situation for what it is and then ask yourself what you can do about it. Be proactive instead of blaming, maybe we will get somewhere. Pointing fingers, at even the feminazis is pointless. When people think they know better than the screaming SJW's, they will ignore them.

Present people with the facts in a way they can consume and believe and they will ignore the feminazis, media and so on. They will know better, then it will cease to be a political football.

Right now we are that political football and that defines that we will not make progress. Political footballs are money in the pocket. Lobby groups and think tanks can appeal to the social conscience and make money on that. To release a document that states paedophiles are bad is money in the bank. It is guaranteed airtime and publicity.

Appeal to reason and the medical establishment and that may change things.. Afterall, it is unhealthy to impede or inhibit natural discovery of sexuality. While it is politicized, that is inevitable. People need to know that this BS is hurting kids.

See where I am going with this?

>>5921

Sorry for the double post, it told me it failed the first time.