"That is a katana; it is not a human. But we, humans, made it. The sword was not made by heaven. If that's the case, then the measure of becoming strong was defined by humans, as how many people the blade can kill. Because of that are we separated from our

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Anonymous 11/22/14 (Sat) 16:05:40 No.436

"That is a katana; it is not a human. But we, humans, made it. The sword was not made by heaven. If that's the case, then the measure of becoming strong was defined by humans, as how many people the blade can kill. Because of that are we separated from our own, true strength?"

Are we?

Anonymous 11/24/14 (Mon) 01:24:14 No.443

Extended body/mind. If you think your only measure of strength is your own immediate biological being, you're stupid and will be phased out in due time by evolution.

The gun is as much our strength as our fists. The plate mail was as much our armor as our muscles. The library is as much our intelligence as our memorized ideas. These are all mere extensions of humanity, their strengths are our strengths.

Anonymous 11/24/14 (Mon) 12:42:14 No.445

>>443
OP is trying to talk about Zen and you're misinterpreting evolution.

Anonymous 11/24/14 (Mon) 23:01:56 No.447

>>445
>you're misinterpreting evolution

Sorry, that's just you being ignorant and not thinking of the concept of evolution to the end of its logic.

As for this being "zen", if it is he can fuck right off. Zen isn't philosophy, and posting out of context snippets to then explain it later is idiotic. You're either going to make a good op putting the context in, or bear the fact that people will take the statement on its own and interpret however their context shapes it.

Anonymous 11/25/14 (Tue) 14:42:02 No.449

>>447
Zen is definitely philosophy, it's philosophy to explain the root of suffering and the method to remove it. I've read valid complaints about the way it's taught, and some complaints about the way it's been bent to better communicate to the Japanese culture (complaints which I'm not so sure about), but the philosophy is Taoist and Buddhist. What OP is referring to is value definition, made-up concepts about good or bad, right and wrong, which according to said philosophies is the root cause of suffering, or at least it's down there.
About evolution, I don't think how the idea (which OP wasn't putting forth) that true strength isn't about tools stops you from using them, and so I don't see how he'd be incapable of reproducing, so being phased out seems like a non-issue. Not to mention that there are plenty of cultures still living without libraries, yet to be phased out by evolution. I never saw OP refer to intelligence as a tool either, and in fact it isn't.