/philosophy/ - Philosophy

>>540
He is where philosophy jumped the shark. Marx was his fanboi
Schopenhauer was the genuine red pill

>>541
>Schopenhauer
>red pilled

The guy completely misunderstood how Hegel had failed, misunderstood Hegel's very valid critique of Kant and repeated the same mistakes Kant had made. By his own admission his own philosophy was mainly a western version of eastern Vedic advaita mystical philosophy of which he also misunderstood the point. He was a good philosopher, but he wasn't anything of note compared to the others in his time, hence why pretty much everyone ignores him and his contribution to German philosophy. Schelling is far more noteworthy than Schopenhauer, and even he gets no note except as a namedrop between Fichte and Hegel even though he contributed greatly to the critique of Hegelianism and its failure.

2/3 of Schopenhauer work is baseless speculation no better than the new age bullshit and the 1/3 is mainly taken from Kant. It is indeed an interesting read, the critique on Kant seems just, but what he did was basically take the human will and externalize it just because, and if that wasn't enough top that off with some strange Platonic-ish concept of Ideas that doesn't add up (or maybe I haven't understood it)… Yeah red pill

why do YOU think he's presumptuous and worthless?

Why the fuck are any of you encouraging OP? He didn't present an argument or make any critical, interesting, or even remotely useful observation about Hegel's work.

Saged. Come back when you've learned to actually formulate arguments.

>>541
>>542
>>543
I'd also just like to point out: The only thing about Schopenhauer that matters is: 1). His influence on Nietzsche, 2). His arguments in favor of philosophical pessimism, and 3). His influence on Freud.

Granted, I don't give a shit about Freud or psychology, and I think Nietzsche just took Schopenhauer as an early influence but did everything better than Schopenhauer, but he does make some good ethical points in favor of philosophical pessimism. He's among the best for that. His arguments do rely a lot on the assumptions he makes in his metaphysics, but his observation that the human race has some blind drive to live is just right.

Really, Schopenhauer is more an inspiration than anything else. I like him, and I think he's a good starting place for people who have interests in philosophy that are relevant to what he talks about, but I don't think anyone really takes his bloated metaphysics seriously.