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 No.968

http://www.dpa-international.com/news/international/cameron-meets-juncker-to-discuss-britains-eu-terms-a-45381007.html

London (dpa) - British Prime Minister David Cameron and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker on Monday began renegotiating the terms of Britain's EU membership ahead of an in-out referendum. Cameron hosted a dinner for Juncker at Chequers, the prime minister's official residence in southern England, officials said.

The prime minister, whose Conservative party won a parliamentary majority in national elections earlier this month, has promised to renegotiate the terms of Britain's EU membership and hold an in-out referendum before the end of 2017. Cameron is to travel to several European capitals this week, including Paris and Berlin, to push his case for reform.

He is expected to give more details to his plans for the referendum in a speech to the state opening of parliament on Wednesday. Changes to welfare payments designed to cut the number of EU migrants will be an "absolute requirement" in the negotiations with other EU nations, Cameron said in a speech last week.

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The cat is out of the bag-what will happen?

 No.986

What a load of shit. They can't change the free movement of people, so net migration will still be in the hundreds of thousands.

Can't wait to see the UK crash and burn


 No.1007

>>986

Well that's what they're negotiating


 No.1035

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>>1007

I'm a Brit and that's not what they're negotiating. Nobody here thinks that's what they're negotiating.

Cameron wants token changes to our relationship with the EU. Free Movement would require treaty change and could only be repealed if every member state have assent or if we left the EU on our own. Cameron won't touch the issue and has so far failed to mention it. No change to free movement, no change to the European Arrest Warrant, no change to the Common Fishery's Policy, no change to the Common Agricultural Policy.

>There are two strategic options now open to the Prime Minister. He could go for broke, state that he is prepared to advocate a Brexit if he doesn’t get what he wants, and demand a significant repatriation of powers.

>He could talk up, if only as a threat, the possibility of Britain joining the European Free Trade Association, giving us access to the single market (and forcing us to be bound by its rules) but avoid other EU policies. He could float the possibility of a hybrid, tailor-made solution, and set up a major commission to investigate alternatives.

>This high-stakes course of action – let’s call it the maximum renegotiation strategy – would be aimed at shifting our relationship with the EU and also at realigning British politics. It would rob Ukip of its raison d’être, split the Labour Party and, if executed with skill, allow Mr Cameron to reposition himself as a truly national leader.

>Regardless of the outcome, this would involve a seminal confrontation with British Europhiles and Europe’s governments, something that he may not have the appetite or inclination to do. Mr Cameron has demonstrated a remarkable capacity to surprise; but so far he has shown no signs that he wants to be the Prime Minister who makes a complete break with 50 years of European policy.

>The alternative approach is more cautious: focus on a few easy wins and plan for an early referendum in which Mr Cameron, in alliance with the leaders of all the main parties bar Ukip, can campaign to stay in. This would include some controls on out-of-work benefits (though probably not in-work benefits) for EU migrants, opting out of the principle of ever-closer union, and one or two other gimmicks.

>This second approach – the minimal renegotiation strategy – currently seems more likely. The Government would kick-start the talks in June at the European Council meeting, where the fallout from the Greek crisis will also be on the agenda, before moving on to formal, detailed negotiations in October. This would doubtless end in a blazing row, followed by six weeks of further discussions.

>A deal that would presumably not require a Treaty change could then be announced at the December Council, and a triumphant Mr Cameron would declare victory. He would call on the public to vote Yes; Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP would follow suit, as would the bulk of big business, with just Ukip calling for a No.

>A referendum would be held in May 2016, timed to coincide with the London, Scottish and local elections: this would maximise the turnout of Yes voters and allow parties to use their local activists to deliver leaflets. In their more unguarded moments, advocates of this strategy predict a crushing Yes that would destroy the sceptics forever.

>There is just one problem: it won’t work. It would be a huge missed opportunity for the UK to regain at least some powers over its own affairs; and it would be fraught with political dangers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11619602/Be-bold-Prime-Minister-and-you-can-change-the-course-of-history.html


 No.1036

>So what is Britain asking for? Mainly things that can be implemented by domestic legislation and require no EU agreement anyway.

>Many Brits want a trading rather than a political union with the EU but David Cameron has so far not asked for it

>The Government’s main focus is on removing benefits from EU nationals in Britain. This is a perfectly reasonable aim: European leaders recognise that Britain’s non-contributory welfare system is unusual and that, in most EU states, newcomers must pay a certain amount into the system before they can draw from it.

>Still, as long as the principle of free movement is maintained — and the PM is not challenging it — such a reform won’t require a new inter-governmental conference or a new treaty. Britain just needs to change its domestic arrangements.

>Much the same is true of the Government’s other declared aims. It wants, for example, a formal recognition that Britain won’t join the euro. Well, duh. While we’re about it, let’s have a formal recognition that Thursday comes after Wednesday.

>It says Eurozone states mustn't set economic policy for the whole EU in a way that disadvantages non-participants, but there is no certain way to prevent this, however the law is written. Nor will scrapping the words ‘ever-closer union’ make any difference as long as integrationist Euro-judges remain in charge.

>I almost want to weep at the missed opportunity.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095556/Dave-demand-earth-Europe-s-leaders-amazed-wants-LITTLE-says-Daniel-Hannan-Conservative-MEP.html (Conservative MEP)

>Unfortunately for both sides, Mr Cameron has already given away his negotiating position with two schoolboy errors.

>First, he named a cut-off date for the EU referendum, at the end of 2017, which means his room for manoeuvre diminishes while the pressure grows on him to accept any pathetic fig leaves of reform as every month goes by.

>Secondly, by announcing to the world generally (and Brussels more specifically) that his preference is to stay in the EU, he has effectively walked into these negotiations telling his fellow EU leaders: "I'd like some reforms but if you don't agree to what I want then I'll still campaign to stay in."

>That’s like walking into your boss’s office to demand a pay rise or you’re off, but then sheepishly adding: “Although I don’t want to go and I won’t actually leave if you don’t pay me more.” Good luck with that negotiation, my friend.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11596186/David-Cameron-Ive-already-started-EU-negotiations.html


 No.1040

>>1035

They can't leave the Eurozone, the risks are too huge, but that's mostly on the British side. What does Brussels lose if Britain leaves? Ties to the United States? Perhaps. I think that Britain needs to play up how much the EU needs Britain. Maybe then there can be real negotiations


 No.1041

>>1040

Cameron is a faggot.




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