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Modern Day, Modern Time.

File: 4570101f922f210⋯.jpg (23.81 KB, 250x234, 125:117, swastikaflaghitler.jpg)

e3b5c8 No.10396394

Can someone please explain to me the strategic idea behind having the swastika armbands and nazi flags at the rally?

If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc., and that the media are hypocrites in their coverage, and the police (or at least the city politicians directing them) are on the side of the leftists, etc etc etc (all things I agree with). Why give anyone the ammo of being able to point to morons waving actual Nazi flags there?

I don't believe that 100% of the people at the rally were unironic neo-nazis, so why did no one tell them… "I don't think this will help our cause." At least if their cause was to actually draw more centrist-right people further to the right by exposing the violence of antifa against a truly peaceful rally.

Am I missing something?

b8217d No.10396420

Sure.

The rally was organized by leftists, even though some sincere rightists who spend too much time on the internet were duped.

Spencer et al are gay and/or kikes.

Kikes play the victim, and duping rightists to larp around in public with swastikas advances their cause of being able to cast themselves as victims of rightist "hate" (i.e. speech and symbolism) while the kikes respond with violence.

Every. Single. Time.


f5d05c No.10396434

Shifting the overton window. Not long ago, a serious Nazi party was unthinkable. Now, they're the potential opposition. Soon, they will be the opposition. And then we win.


bc6b82 No.10396442

The swastica is a symbol from buddihism that had to do with peace. Has another name I forgot. That's the only thing I think you missed.


e4621b No.10396495

>>10396394

>overt national socialist imagery

muh PR

>downplaying NatSoc to appeal to normies

CUCKS

there's no pleasing you people.


9c680c No.10396551

ITT

>we should think about PR; you don't want to get shut out before ppl can actually listen to your message

>"muh PR" is always a jewish psyop, you should goosestep everywhere and tell all your friends in school/work "hitler did nothing wrong; gas the kikes"


d0883e No.10396600

>>10396495

This. The people mad about using national socialist imagery in public are the same people who think 'white sharia' is a great meme because it's edgy.


2db2f4 No.10396608

>>10396551

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc.

We'd be better off pointing out racism isn't necessarily bad and has roots in biology and Darwinism.


8cc323 No.10396661

>>10396394

>the left are the real racists

Holy fuck kill yourself


a85837 No.10396665

>>10396394

But we ARE the real racists.

There is nothing wrong with being racist.

And you misunderstand our goals, we want to abolish the constitution, replace it with a better white-only version and install a National-Socialist state. We don't really care for the jewish activities you alt-kikes are engaged in.

Now go back to the hole you crawled out, my little nigger-loving cuckold. Reported, enjoy your ban.

Oh, by the way this place is on FBI watchlist. Now you are too :^)

>>10396551

Let's see, our message is to gas all kikes, nuke Middle East, release biological weapons in Africa and erect a golden statue of Hitler in Welthaupstadt Germania. Oh, and hang all alt-kikes on the lanterns, starting with Spencer and his mongoloid wife. Do you think not using the swastika will help in spreading the message?:^)


e3b5c8 No.10396671

>>10396661

I'm trying to understand what the point of the rally was. If that's what the people organizing the rally believe and want to show - why would they do it this way?


e3b5c8 No.10396690

>>10396665

Ok thanks for the explanation. That definitely does clear up the strategy part that I was confused about!


4e2ed6 No.10396694

>>10396442

You're new, lurk some more before posting. Go to >>>/fringe/ and look for swastika threads. It's an indo European symbol that represents a lot of things, Buddhists adopted it as it had made its way around to all the places where aryans settled.


e3b5c8 No.10396717

>>10396694

lol - I know the history of the swastika.

I'm specifically asking about the strategic value of its use on an armband or flag at a political rally.


e3b5c8 No.10396791

>>10396665

When I say, "trying to show that the left are the real racists" I suppose I mean to expose the them as openly racist against whites. Or at least help other whites to understand that they are the target of the "new" systemic racism.

I just have trouble understanding how you'd draw traditional or moderate whites to the cause of pushing back against anti-white racism by being openly nazi?


a85837 No.10396798

>>10396690

The strategy is that many here are involved in mainstream political movements and parties and you will never know who they are, we even have guys working in Congress in EU parliament. You are our SA goons we use for normie exposure, and you will end up the same way they did once we take over.


b8217d No.10396845

>>10396671

The point of the rally was to advance Communism. Note how quickly the RINOs, (((Bernie Sanders))), Bill Clinton, and others tweeted similar messages condemning "hate."

The ultimate American rightist fantasy is to live deep in the countryside and being self-reliant.

The ultimate American leftist fantasy is to (((organize))) communally.

The rally was (((organized))) months ago. eCelebs just happened to be there.

Pattern recognition is our friend.


2bcbf5 No.10396847

File: a0ffd621c3fb000⋯.png (604.69 KB, 684x960, 57:80, a0ffd621c3fb0001d3af9df394….png)

>>10396394

I think using the swastika and neo-nazi imagery is not going to help. inb4 PR shill Normal fags have been indoctrinated against nazi's their entire life. And even people on the right whom would approve of the underlying goals and messages would have to avoid any movement with nazi-imagery. What needs to happen for any hope of a new White Nationalist movement in this country is to develop our own identity and symbols, completely separate and undeniably not connected to "Nazis". We can have the same ideology as NS but have to rebrand it to sell this to normies. Creating a new image disconnects it from any past perceived ideas and allows it to thrive on it's own merits. Do not misread me, this kekistani shit is retarded, a new symbol needs to be made, like i said completely different than anything the nazis did Whilst i agree that hitler did nothing wrong, the overwhelming vast majority of people think he did from being (((educated))). Most people don't have time to read up on the news after wage slaving all day. Some if they do listen to the MSM or some popular radio hosts(and think they are 100% informed voters). Fewer read online news like breitbart or ny times(and think they are informd voters). Even fewer listen to the e-celebs like mike cernocuck, or stefan molyjew and even sub-tier coal burner e-celebs like shoeonhead (and think they are informed voters). Every mainstream and almost all alternative online outlets demonize nazis and condemn them wholly, even as far as to not even really ever talk about their policies beyond killing jews. So to me, Even if we copied their policies word for word, it would go pretty much unnoticed because nobody disagrees with them other than the fact that the nazis also thought so.


cfcd4f No.10396864

>>10396394

>MUHHHHHHH PR


d8ab7d No.10396866

>>10396394

Because nazis aren't racist and hitler windy nuffin. If we draw people further right it'll be done by showing them the truth and not censoring ourselves in order to be more appealing.


b8217d No.10396874

>>10396847

This. 100%

Also, to pursue the past is exactly– precisely– what the left is doing in seeking to revise the past. Hitler did nothing wrong, but that's in the past. Fuck the past. It never happened to any of us; it's only a story written by people who are dead. The past is a distraction from the future.

Look to the future.


f5d05c No.10396886

>>10396847

I agree. The rise of an openly Nazi party is unlikely in the current age of kike controlled news. A new symbol with similar meaning is needed.

That said, what could fulfill the role? It's a given that an American Nazi party would not be identical to the German Nazi party, we're different peoples, although very similar. Just like George Lincoln Rockwell knew. But what symbol could have the same power as the Swastika? 卐? The Black Sun is a fair contender, but IMO it's too complex.


a85837 No.10396887

>>10396791

>I just have trouble understanding how you'd draw traditional or moderate whites to the cause of pushing back against anti-white racism by being openly nazi?

By making them realize that Hitler did nothing wrong and the NatSoc are literally the only ones who will take them in, protect them and give them pride.

This is why alt-kikes are fracturing, because they are afraid to be honest.


8cc323 No.10396896

>>10396671

I'll address your points separately

1) the "left are the real racists/fascists/Nazis" meme only kicks the terms around as pejoratives. There's nothing wrong with being a racist or a fascist. If you think there is you are a long way from home here.

2) the rally as I understand it was about ethno nationalism. Whether that was what the original intent was I don't know nor care but I'm glad that was the result.

3) Lurk more, you're painfully new here


6d2b70 No.10396905

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc.

That was never the goal, you retarded faggot.

We are the real racists, you dumb piece of shit.

>>10396717

>omg guise y would u use the swastika

Read George Lincoln Rockwell, you retarded faggot.


8cc323 No.10396915

>>10396886

The Swastika has been in our people's culture for thousands of years. I'm not going to stop using it because a fucking kike / zogbot says I have to.


f5d05c No.10396916

>>10396887

If we had control of the media, that would be a fair point. But we don't. We have control of a small subset of the internet, and even though our memes are stronger than the rest, politically enforced censorship by major platforms (Google, Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc) limits the message.


f5d05c No.10396924

>>10396915

I'm not saying abandon the swastika, of course not. It has far more meaning and history than the Nazis alone. The point is that the stigma against Nazis, especially in America (where kids are taught in school that America was the one who defeated the Nazis singlehandedly and they were all evil and we did it to save the poor jews) is unlikely to gain much ground.


8cc323 No.10396929

>>10396916

If the message is so limited then why were 600 white people marching with torches chanting "blood and soil?"

Lurk more newfag


6d2b70 No.10396932

>>10396924

>you'll never amount to anything if you use the swastika, goy

>b-but don't abandon it because if i say to do that, you'll know I'm a retarded cocksucker


e3b5c8 No.10396935

>>10396905

>When I say, "trying to show that the left are the real racists" I suppose I mean to expose the them as openly racist against whites. Or at least help other whites to understand that they are the target of the "new" systemic racism.


a85837 No.10396940

>>10396916

We do have a greater control that the media. We accidentally created you alt-kike movement by shitposting and drawing frogs. Every "mainstream right" you see has been spawned by us. In the last 5 years we have changed the reality of your existence, while you've been afraid to fart in a non-PC way.


f5d05c No.10396944

>>10396932

>>10396929

It's not a bad symbol. You can call me a shill if you want, no shit it's a powerful symbol that can't just be forgotten and left behind for PR purposes. All I'm saying is that the swastika alone is unlikely to gain much ground with American voters, unless we retake control of the MSM.


d2b4de No.10396945

>muh nazis

What's up with this thread? Why are you faggots using derogatory term for natsoc?


6d2b70 No.10396946

>>10396935

The idea is not now nor has it ever been to expose that they're racist. Our job is to stop white genocide and secure a homeland for whites. Everyone is racist, you faggot. That's not important. What's important is our homeland and our race.


a85837 No.10396949

>>10396945

It's an TRS raid, don't mind them, they are brainwashed by the jew.


476d10 No.10396955

>>10396671

The point was to be a cuckcold and make friends.

The people went there originally to protest against a statue being removed. They have decided that this statue is totally valuable and should be preserved at all costs. So they went to protest around their current idol and to network with each other.

They're cuckservative types not Nazi types.


f5d05c No.10396957

>>10396945

The term Nazi is like the term redneck. Originally a derogatory term hijacked by the intended "victims". Wear it proudly.


17b554 No.10396959

There is no strategic value in it OP. The alt right was successfully derailed by controlled opposition. Quite literally the entire world now believes the alt right is a white supremacist group. You honestly have to be unintelligent to think this helps fight declining white birth rates. You will not find a single, logic argument in favour of this. This has also shown just how many people dont actually care about the politics but instead just want to feel included in something and that they achieved something.

Again, there is not a single, logical and well thought argument in favour of this. Your movement are now branded and infamous nazis, and the world will shun you.


91832b No.10396960

>>10396671

Mass demonstrations and public marches are for naive idiots who masturbate to the imagery of 1960s-era activism. The harsh truth is that the elites are intimately familiar with such antiquated tactics, and thus easily subvert and co-opt them. Wars evolve. You're not going to win this generation's battles using the last generation's methods.


6d2b70 No.10396965

>>10396944

>the swastika alone

What do you think… that we shove swastikas in peoples' faces and that's our whole message?

You're a fucking retard.


2bcbf5 No.10396970

File: e990611f6dc5938⋯.jpg (34.46 KB, 500x260, 25:13, e990611f6dc593830ed6148085….jpg)

>>10396886

>But what symbol could have the same power as the Swastika?

Americans(excluding niggers,spics,jews, american indians, pan faces and anything not white) have a history and culture here in america. Even if a kike was to argue that we "stole this land", it does not excuse the fact that we stepped foot here and created civilization as we know it, we had art, culture and wove our own heritage to the land we tilled. Our identity is undeniable. The chinks and spics and dot-indians that just landed here in the last 30-40 years, having nothing to latch onto other than the desire to be white americans. Creating our own symbols, new, powerful, and emotionally eliciting is going to be easy, not just easy, but effortless. As time wears on, Something organically (not unlike memes) will catch on and breath life of its own from the citizenry that it represents. The one thing any shitskin should be afraid of is, when white people get organized and today whilst krypto-kike organized gave the false sense of whites organized and it scared the shit out of every shitskin and cucked white, every LGBTQ+pozz was scared.


6d2b70 No.10396973

>>10396959

You're a fucking idiot. If "we" are all "Nazis" then the media just normalized being a Nazi, you fucking abortion.


e3b5c8 No.10396975

>>10396946

How do you expect to build a homeland for whites, when 90% whites are repelled by your symbolism because of their indoctrination?

Obviously everyone is racist, but there are still so many whites who haven't internalized the fact that only whites are ever called out for it.


476d10 No.10396977

>>10396847

>Media tries to say every group is a Nazi

>Start wearing clcikbait Nazi symbols

>People see the Nazis seem reasonable, well dressed and have a good sense of humour

>Narrative around Nazis breaks up entirely

>Nazis can no longer be used as brain washing against being pro white

>Nazis are fucking cool and the stigma around them outside of being a zombie like monster in video games/movies is done.

Gee, I wonder why it's useful to use symbols that destroy the narrative. It's almost as if saying you're a Nazi and proving you're a better person than the people trying to demonize Nazis might be a good tactic


ede6bd No.10396978

File: c056ec3a8e486f5⋯.jpg (1.95 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, BlackSun.jpg)

>>10396394

There's really no reason to use the swastika in an American political movement (Sorry GLR).

The problem is people on the right are too soft on allowing NS imagery because they don't wanna look like PR cucks. The message we want to send is that we're a cool new political movement, something that stands up in its own right. We'll never be real Nazis, no matter how hard we try. We'll always appear derivative, knock-off, and try-hard when we use their symbols irl. Even the guys throwing Roman salutes at the rally looked cringy as fuck when they did it.

If you want a real pro-white movement to succeed, we have to have our own symbols, our own message. We want to be the guys the Jews fearfully compare their enemies to seventy years from now, not a shadow of something that has passed.


17b554 No.10396982

>>10396973

Is this what uneducated American children really think? That the Jewish media is going to portray nazis in a positive light?


e4b343 No.10396986

>>10396847

this exactly is why like you even knowing Hitler did nothing wrong I distance myself whenever I can from Nazi imagery beyond some memes (which I twist as being ironic to my normie peers) even in my uni, a leftist cesspool that is the Social sciences department and alumni (International relations senior here) I've managed to redpill people into accepting natsoc ideas and never mention the nazis or Hitler and when I do I go "I think X policy Germany had before going full retard on 1938 was really god because this and that we should try to do something like that here" and I'm always met with acceptance even from my dumb feminist professor, If a lazy fat cunt like me can do it imagine if we as a movement can accomplish


f5d05c No.10396990

>>10396965

Drop the strawmen. That's not at all what I'm saying and you know it.

>>10396970

Exactly. The American people cannot create a perfect replica of the German people because they are different. Quite similar of course, but not the same. Americans need a different symbol to rally around. The swastika should be an inspiration, an acknowledgment of those who came before, but we must recognize our own heritage as well. This would have much more influence on the people.

That said, I have no idea what such a symbol would look like.


6d2b70 No.10396992

>>10396975

1. It only takes 3% to start a revolution :^)

2. We don't want people who are so weak that a symbol completely makes them freak out.

3. The swastika will get us more attention and more press than any other symbol

4. People are oddly drawn to it, as the last 80 years have shown

5. You're a fucking faggot. Still.


6d2b70 No.10397000

>>10396982

Is this what you faggot cucks in Europe think? That portrayal by the Jewish media in a positive light has helped. See the 2016 election, Eurocuck.


476d10 No.10397003

>>10396959

>Logic matters

Feminism is an illogical ideology and has dominated the west for the last 100 years. Tell me again how logic matters so I can laugh at you while we use emotions to lead people towards our goals instead of the Lefts'


8cc323 No.10397007

>>10396975

>90% of whites are repelled by a symbol that is so engrained in our culture it stirs up strong emotion in the blood memory just by looking at it

The only ones who fear the swastika are Jews and niggers. This thread is full of PR cucks, redditors, and concern shills.

Sage because I'm done bumping this newfag thread.


f5d05c No.10397008

>>10397000

Checked, but drop the D&C. Americans and Europeans need to stand together, at least for the time being. We all have common enemies trying to destroy us. We're all different ethnicities, and most Americans are Euro-mutts, but we're all white and we're all being targeted by the kike elite.


91832b No.10397009

>>10396915

Everyone should be using the swastika. It's been a positive solar symbol for thousands of different peoples for thousands of years, yet a single group of inbred sand people want to end it forever for everybody just because one country that lost one particular war happened to use it too. It's crazy.


e4b343 No.10397011

>>10396965

that's what the mass media is pushing and the normies are eating it like birthday cake


17b554 No.10397015

>>10397003

What an absolute brainlet of a post. This whole event has really shown me that Americans are dumber than I thought. Absolutely no critical thinking whatsoever. You've been tricked into delegitimizing your movement by controlled opposition. In exactly 1 months time, when the alt right has been disassembled and it's participants villified as nazis, I want you to remember the garbage you are posting right now


20c032 No.10397018

File: 090b91c5b90b451⋯.jpg (6.61 KB, 236x340, 59:85, emblemOfLife.jpg)

How about adopting the egyptian emblem of life as one of our symbols? It would symbolize the virile and life-affirming nature of our movement - a resistance symbol against the decay, degeneration and death of the white race. It's simple, looks volkisch as fuck and won't intimidate normies.

Also, I am not versed in the occult, but I would think that co-opting this symbol will amplify the memetic power of Kek due to its relation to Ancient Egypt.


e4b343 No.10397020

>>10396990

I say the Black Sun would work well, no one really knows what it is appart from people into the occult and fringe parts of history


d2b4de No.10397023

>>10396957

>redneck

>pride

If you're stupid enough to call yourself one. One step away from being proud of terms like dangerous faggot.

Anyone using 'nazi' here unironically is a shill in my eyes or a newfag.

>>10396960

It still works, but you have to have unifying message behind you to move people. Check polish marches against islam and warsaw uprising minute of silence. Hard to do in divided nation.


6d2b70 No.10397024

>>10397008

Fair enough. But being portrayed by mediakikes in a positive light is getting to be a bad thing, if you haven't noticed. Why should we care what the kike media thinks? They called Trump a Nazi all the way to the inauguration and of course even now. Didn't hurt him one bit.

>>10397011

>we have to appeal to normies

No. You are again, a retarded faggot. Normies are drawn to the strongest group. We are the strongest group. They will always follow the alpha.

Normies hated Trump until after the primaries. After it was clear that he was the odds-on favorite, after seeing through the fake polls, they flocked to him. Because he was the strongest candidate.

The entire time, mind you, the kike media that you're so eager to impress was smearing him in every imaginable way.

You are a little baby. Go home.


f5d05c No.10397025

>>10397015

If the true right (fuck the alt-right) in America fails, what is there in Western Europe to support the cause?


8cc323 No.10397027

>>10397009

Fuck "everyone" it's been created by Aryans and uses by brown horses the way they use all Aryan innovation without making any of their own.


26b6b6 No.10397030

>>10396847

>>10396394

>>10396978

The swastika is the only symbol which has the power to make a person pull a 180 on the political spectrum. Nothing else is surrounded by more emotional propaganda. As such, nothing symbolizes Jewish brainwashing quite like the vilification of Hitler and the swastika.

Therefor, if a person can be dispelled of this propaganda, it completely shatters their trust in the mainstream channels. Is this not the path that we've all followed to get here?

"If they lied about this, they'll lie about anything" is a thought we've all had. You won't get this kind of effect with anything else.


476d10 No.10397038

>>10397015

A, I'm not American.

B, I've just made an absolutely genius post that disproved your atheist skeptik bullshit post. Logic does not lead people, emotions do. One cannot use logic to change the world. But if you get enough people angry the world will change in a matter of hours.

But go ahead, tell everyone how logic is involved in feminism. The most powerful ideology on the planet right now. It controls every western country and has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the planet. Tell me how it used logic to gain this much power. Mr. Logical feminist-san.


20c032 No.10397042

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91832b No.10397046

>>10397011

The media is never going to stop calling you Nazis. So make them choke on it. Force the media to repeat it so much that the nomalfags get sick and tired of it. You'll never lose the label, so make the label lose its shock value through oversaturation.


f5d05c No.10397050

>>10397018

It's alright, but a little too foreign for American tastes IMO. Perhaps some trinity between it, the swastika, and something new.


8cc323 No.10397053

File: e7b387cd203afb3⋯.jpg (1.8 MB, 1968x2500, 492:625, IMG_1506.JPG)

File: cdb53b76b3fd057⋯.jpg (64.9 KB, 460x277, 460:277, IMG_1508.JPG)

File: 3672faeff97d760⋯.jpg (152.07 KB, 800x537, 800:537, IMG_1512.JPG)

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File: 1386f752a0c6512⋯.jpg (35.08 KB, 480x360, 4:3, IMG_1763.JPG)

>>10397018

Jesus Christ, fuck off. Here's some symbols you faggot.


ede6bd No.10397060

>>10397030

Not really how messaging works. How most of us got here was either having redpilled family or spending a lot of time on the darker parts of the net. Nobody saw a swastika and immediately activated their inner Aryan.

It's something that's fine to share with the ingroup (people on /pol/) but in a real life movement it will kill you.


476d10 No.10397061

>>10397018

Ankh says WE WAZ KANGZ and "I play vampire the masquerade"

Very bad idea to try and unite people around a pop culture symbol linked to goth kids and losers.


c98ad5 No.10397065

>>10396394

There is none. Hitting with the hardest redpill from the start is ridiculous. If people are going to swallow it, it needs to be gradual. And the backlash from a swastika will never be erased.


6d2b70 No.10397069

>>10397060

>anti-swastika shilling on /pol/

Immediately kill yourself, you fucking nigger.


e4b343 No.10397070

>>10397024

You really don't interact with people outside this mongolian basket weaving forum right? look at the normies on social media, potential right wingers are been put off by the act of one dumb faggot that ran over some niggers, in past situations we never drew blood, we appeared as the bigger men, now because of ONE asswipe we've given just cause to the media (which is what normies consume) to disavow right wing ideas in their entirety, we need to play the long con to win


f5d05c No.10397071

>>10397053

The swastika is great, and so is the Black Sun, but the latter just doesn't have the same memetic power as the swastika. The 卐is very catchy not only thanks to its history, but also its simplicity.


c66388 No.10397078

>>10396671

To protest against anitwhite shit, it was held in 'emancipation park', formally lee park, that should tell you something.


6d2b70 No.10397081

>>10397070

>we need to appeal to normies

Stop this. You aren't from here. Go back to where you came from.


d680e3 No.10397082

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>>10396394

>Can someone please explain to me the strategic idea behind having the swastika armbands and nazi flags at the rally?

As you can see from /pol/, true NatSoc are extremely proud of their beliefs and generally have a chip on their shoulder about being shamed about them since the popular misapprehensions about their actual beliefs are ubiquitous, ignorant, and often unfair. These people may constitute some who would wave a flag or wear it publicly. Others might think it is edgy and tough since it frightens people they don't like but would likely be called degenerate by an actual NatSoc. Some others might just be trolls or plants trying to make whatever group their embed themselves in look bad in the eyes of the masses. Overall the idea of making the swastika PR-friendly with the current nature of the media is basically impossible - the media will always tavistockkeep in order to show the swastika associated with the worst optics. So that's why you get criticisms against 'muh PR' whenever someone suggests it isn't tactful even if there can be a point to that criticism in some circumstances.

>>10396608

Making that distinction between 'race realism' being factual and reasonable and the understood 'racism' that is simply blind hate would definitely be good. In any case the term 'racist' is fast becoming dulled and useless from the overuse by the Left, which is great for decent folk.

>>10396847

>What needs to happen for any hope of a new White Nationalist movement in this country is to develop our own identity and symbols, completely separate and undeniably not connected to "Nazis".

Obviously an idea with merits - decoupling the imagery from the ideas would allow you to get a few sentences in edgewise before people immediately shut you out due to their overwhelming emotional conditioning. However, I think the abandonment of a symbol in favor of another needs to be for more than just that, especially if the ideas have not evolved far from that original symbolic source.

>Most people don't have time to read up on the news after wage slaving all day.

Most wage-slaves don't have time to even concern themselves with politics or philosophy like this. There's a reason why it took a massive depression to spark the original NatSox movement - all the capable people were released from their occupations and were desperate to serve a good cause for better days. America is due for an economic collapse in the next year or so, and when it goes that is when the best people will be available for a real movement rather than the current show we observe.

>Even if we copied their policies word for word, it would go pretty much unnoticed because nobody disagrees with them other than the fact that the nazis also thought so.

You could read Mein Kampf aloud on a college campus and until you hit the JQ parts no one would even know what you were reading frankly. It's a useful thing - there are ideas in NatSoc that are not only convincing but inspiring to a lay audience.

>>10396866

>If we draw people further right it'll be done by showing them the truth and not censoring ourselves in order to be more appealing.

I can attest firsthand that if you are earnest, inspiring, and truthful in a tactful way, people will gravitate towards you and your positions even if they are (((instinctively))) appalled at first.

>>10396924

>The point is that the stigma against Nazis, especially in America […] is unlikely to gain much ground.

Perhaps, but then again most of /pol/ is here having at one point in their lives accepting the prior indoctrination in earnest. You'd be surprised at whom the plebs will follow if only they are shown powerful examples. Five years ago no one would have even dreamed that Trump would be President, not even on /pol/, but here we are.

>>10396990

>That said, I have no idea what such a symbol would look like.

Hitler was an artist, which is quite helpful to have around for such things. Perhaps we should encourage memesmiths to have a go at it. Still, >>10396992 has a point about the swastika weeding out the undesirables and attracting a certain sort that could be useful. Imageboards do as much in a different way.

>>10397046

>The media is never going to stop calling you Nazis. So make them choke on it.

Excellent idea, and it is already working.


e3b5c8 No.10397088

>>10397070

This is what I'm talking about.


e4b343 No.10397092

>>10397081

so you want to be a hugbox forever? wew lad


ede6bd No.10397094

>>10397069

Don't call me a nigger if you can't even read my posts dumbfuck


8cc323 No.10397098

>>10397065

>it has to be gradual

Did it ever occur to you that over the past 50 years, especially the last 10-15 people have already been gradually moving to this point? It isn't skinheads flying swastikas anymore it's guys with jobs wearing polos and khakis. We are at that point in time. Sorry if you're too aloof to realize that. We're already here, catch up faggot.


91832b No.10397102

>>10397065

>And the backlash from a swastika will never be erased.

If you can't erase it, you can always desensitize to the point where it doesn't matter anymore.


2bcbf5 No.10397106

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>>10396990

>That said, I have no idea what such a symbol would look like.

I have some theories, but something that embodies americana. Unlike european nations that have defined ethnicities of sub-categories of whites that having been living there for 2000+ years, white americans are indeed a mix of every white ethnic group, however if you've ever seen a map of america with ethnic backgrounds you'll see some interesting things #1 spics need to go, right fucking now. #2 most white immigrants are from Germany, england, france and basically the past major nations of europe. So appealing to some common bond between these might be something to ponder. Even though someones might have some roots to Latvia or something, they are still 60% german blood. Symbols must be simple however. Yet like i previously mentioned, emotionally evoking.


20c032 No.10397111

File: 952770a950902ee⋯.jpg (4.51 KB, 250x250, 1:1, amuletoftet.jpg)

>>10397061

>>10397050

Why not adopt the tet? Another ancient Egyptian symbol that was revealed to us with the 10000000 get on this board - quite literally a divine revelation, if you buy into the kek cult.


6d2b70 No.10397114

>>10397092

You're not from here. It is not our job to appeal to normies. Oddly enough, the first redpill isn't supposed to be white nationalism. We have plenty of faggots that help people digest their first redpills. We have Molyneux, Cuckin McCuckess, Jim Goad, Pewdiepie, most of twitter… It's not our job to form some bridge to normies. Many people on youtube and other platforms do that for us. We have no need to reach out to normalfaggots. This is where normalfaggots end up after a process. We are the end of that process. Plenty of others are willing and more able than we are to dispense babbys first redpill. Not our lane.


e4b343 No.10397122

>>10397046

who cares if I'm called a Nazi, I've been called one and always say "So what?" I'm with you with letting it oversaturate what I'm saying is that if we want to become a legitimate opposition with big numbers and a real chance to get into power we need to twist the shit in our favor, like I said whenever I want to convery natsoc ideas I never mention Hitler of Nazi germany and people eat that shit up, we need to be intelligent in how we play our cards


db002f No.10397123

>>10396394

>Can someone please explain to me the strategic idea

There's not always a strategic idea behind everything you velvet glove faggot. Sometimes people just stop giving a fuck.


c98ad5 No.10397124

>>10397098

I don't think you even understand what I wrote. Read it again.

>>10397102

That could work too but it would take even longer I fear. While most people online see it as a meme or whatever, entire generations see it as the ultimate hate symbol and that's very hard to shake. Introducing it right now doesn't do too much to shake that image either. You want a good example of how things have been changing? Look at the KKK. No violence from them in forever, even a Jew saved one of their lives when attacked. Their symbolism is getting accepted as simply that.


db002f No.10397130

>>10396434

To be more accurate, they are the only opposition to the Leftists. There just isn't anything else.


db002f No.10397134

>>10396495

The PR-cucks are probably late joiners from /v/ or Plebbit.


e3b5c8 No.10397137

Heading to bed, but thanks everyone!

I'm sincerely grateful for the engagement. Definitely helped me fill in the missing pieces on mindset of those flying the flags in public. I'm not convinced that it's actually helpful in realizing a white nationalist dream, but the desensitization points make sense.


476d10 No.10397140

>>10397114

Any one who tries to appeals to normies is a communism. They're using commie tactics which failed them. It took subverting the power structure to change things not a swarm of idiots


f5d05c No.10397142

>>10397111 (checked)

Not bad, but I think it's too complex to be adopted as a common symbol in the public mind. It's a good symbol, and could be a good signal for higher awareness folks, but I don't think it would appeal to normalfags very well. Partly because it looks like a chess piece.


e4b343 No.10397143

>>10397114

and who are you to tell I'm not from here, I was here the moment this site appeared, I've was on old cuckchan /pol/ when the first stormfaggot takeover took place when the place was called /n/, I'm with you in continue being as we are here, but in public spaces we have to gain appeal and followers do you redpill your friends and coworkers by ramming white nationalism down their throats? I bet you don't you play the long game with them so why the fuck can't we make that to the masses


6d2b70 No.10397155

File: 17e46de11e83acf⋯.jpg (325.22 KB, 1173x1140, 391:380, sonnenrad.jpg)

>>10397143

>i've been here forever, goy

>now listen to me…

>the swastika is bad for normalfags

Kek.


f5d05c No.10397157

>>10397143

The thing with PR is that it must be carefully kept in check. Sometimes PR applies when appealing to normalfags, sometimes not. But PR must be entirely disregarded in purely ideological discussions or it poisons the well.

>>10397137

Sleep tight, anon.


e4b343 No.10397162

>>10397155

I'm nor saying the swastika is bad you dumb idiot, I'm saying that to form an appealing opposition group we need a new symbol that is asociated with us and with us only not with some guy from 70 years ago


6d2b70 No.10397167

>>10397162

>we need to start appealing to normalfaggots

There you go again, you dicksucker.


f99b93 No.10397170

>>10397111

I'd prefer something European, as much as we mock the KANGZ, Ancient Egypt (probably) wasn't White either.

We could take a random character from Futhark. The Nordic Front are using the Tyr rune, which most normies will just think is an "up arrow". The Sig and Odin runes are out, though.

Or how about an Ogham?


e4b343 No.10397171

>>10397157

I totally agree with you man, but it's something many asswipes can't get through their heads, we need PR in some cases hell Hitler had PR why the fuck can't we?


f5d05c No.10397172

>>10397162

You're not gonna gain much ground referring to Hitler as "some guy", anon.


e4b343 No.10397174

>>10397172

>what is general figure of speech


f0f861 No.10397175

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>>10396394

>Can someone please explain to me the strategic idea behind having the swastika

Imagine being a plant, you'd love to have sunshine, right?

Imagine being a human in a world that ran for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of year of true sun worship (until child sacrificer and corpse god yahweh was spread around).

You will want to keep the sun on you and near you at all cost.

It gives us superpowers.

It doesn't matter if it's bad PR. If doesn't matter if leftists use it. It still is our ultimate source of power.

The more you believe in the ancient power of truth and radiant splendor the more effective it will be.

Remember how strong Germany was, even if it lost the war.

Imagine all white nations coming back to the true power.

It would be insurmountable to any enemy.


e4b343 No.10397177

>>10397167

okay then, stay in a hugbox forever regarded as a fringe weird fuck by everyone around you

fuck it's like you don't know what is strategic thinking


91832b No.10397178

>>10397027

So? It is only natural that the lower people adore their natural betters. That is when all is right with the world, because it re-affirms the natural hierarchy and the proper places of all peoples. It is when such things are forgotten that everything starts going to shit. The swastika is supposed to be a universally recognized positive symbol of the natural order. That modern media has turned it into an exclusive negative symbol shows just how sick and mad our current world has become.


6d2b70 No.10397182

>>10397177

>weird fringe fuck

>for liking the swastika

You're not from here. You're a kike and a liar.


476d10 No.10397187

>>10397171

You have zero control of your public image except with how you represent yourself in minimal ways such as clothing. You can't control the PR so stop trying.

Lets say you did want positive PR and you found a way to achieve it. How much effort would it take for an infiltrator to join your group and destroy any PR you had gained? It would be infinitely easy and they could do absolutely anything and you could not stop the media reporting on your group being a bunch of nazi pedo drug dealers


d0883e No.10397193

File: 81a5e2558de23b9⋯.jpg (45.32 KB, 430x430, 1:1, 81a5e2558de23b99b2a4a30a45….jpg)

>>10397177

>yes, everything you guys are doing is working, but you need to stop it right now. trust me, i'm an oldfag

Nah son.


476d10 No.10397197

>>10397177

>Everyone hates Trump

Oh he got elected

>Every politician in Europe is hated

Oh they all get elected over and over

Hint hint faggot, being popular doesn't matter. Times are changing.


f5d05c No.10397199

>>10397175

People always talk about how "nazis lost LOL" but when you point out that they went from a destitute nation to a force that it took the rest of the world combined to bring down, and even then the cracking of the ENIGMA code was a major factor, it strikes a nerve. We can't ever forget the swastika (if you're on ubuntu crtl+u then 5350 makes 卐) but to revitalize it we need a new symbol based on it. It has to incorporate it, somehow.


f6c5c8 No.10397207

File: 3f91a18eab967dc⋯.webm (5.46 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Rockwell on the swastika.webm)

File: 934cb543b94eeb7⋯.mp4 (3.72 MB, 640x360, 16:9, We cannot out-sneak the Je….mp4)

Was going to spreg out a write a giant wall of text but I'll settle for this:

Not calling ourselves National Socialists and distancing ourselves from the symbols of NatSoc could be considered disingenuous, at best, and cowardly, at worst. My greatest fear would be something like the Alt-Right, where they've allowed their message to become polluted with NazBol, race-mixing, and kikes because they weren't expressly NatSoc.

However, if we did choose to call ourselves National Socialists, then we might as well use the Swastika at that point anyways.


f0f861 No.10397208

>>10397199

>but to revitalize it we need a new symbol based on it

(checked)

But, no. Not at all.

You do not bend to the will of our enemies.

You bend their will to yours.


6d2b70 No.10397211

>>10397199

Feel free to start your own board and group based on a symbol of your own choosing.


e2cdce No.10397219

>>10397134

I'm thinking /r/The_Donald. Those faggot cucks are now currently PRfagging like I've never seen before right now. They're even going muh raycism all over again, like they haven't learned anything in the past couple of years.


f0f861 No.10397222

>>10397208

>But, no. Not at all.

>You do not bend to the will of our enemies.

>You bend their will to yours.

To add to that.

I am not a Christian.

I don't "adopt falsehoods" to the ultimate truth. The ultimate power.

Doing so is the path of the broken cuck.

The path of the six gorillion split.

The path of eternal division.

The swastika is pure and eternally powerful. There is no need to adjust it.


f5d05c No.10397235

>>10397222 (checked)

It's a powerful symbol that should remain in use. My only point is that it will probably be difficult to get a sufficient number of Americans to rally around it, especially in the current atmosphere of kike controlled MSM. But I could be wrong.


6d2b70 No.10397237

>>10397219

r/the_donald are the only ones who would have a problem with the swastika being popular again. Even TRSfags wouldn't try to cuck on the swastika, gay as they are.


476d10 No.10397241

>>10397199

We have a new symbol. Pepe has become one of the new symbols if you haven't noticed.

Using old symbols doesn't mean we don't have any new ones. Symbols are memes, memes evolve organically. You can't force people to adopt it.

>>10397237

stormfront bans it but what did you expect?


20c032 No.10397244

>>10397170

For a more localized Northern European racialist movement, I agree with you. But America is pretty far removed from Europe, and using traditional European symbology in nationalist movements here might lead to confusion. The Egyptians were a highly sophisticated culture and very advanced for their time. Even if they were swarthy, I still consider them to be Aryans on that basis.


f0f861 No.10397246

>>10397235

>It's a powerful symbol that should remain in use. My only point is that it will probably be difficult to get a sufficient number of Americans to rally around it

Then you just have to fight harder for it.


6d2b70 No.10397252

>>10397235

Why would we change anything about what we're doing? We are winning the culture war as of this very minute. Even after UtR, we are winning and we will continue to win.

We want people who are redpilled on the kike problem. If you're redpilled on the kike problem, then the swastika shouldn't bother you at all.


6d2b70 No.10397255

>>10397241

Is stormfront even a thing anymore?


9da9d6 No.10397258

File: 0fe720c07e0f2b7⋯.mp4 (7.12 MB, 376x464, 47:58, dunkirk.mp4)

File: dc435900794f7a6⋯.jpg (103.26 KB, 720x609, 240:203, notlie.jpg)

>Guise we should drop the swastika, it'll make people think we're nazis or something

>Guise we should drop the whole hitler thing he scares people, the message is too deeply conditioned

>Guise we should drop hating jews it'll make people think we're anti-semitic or something

>Guise we should drop hating niggers it'll make people think we're racist or something

It's one thing to, for persons with influence and power, to say one thing and then do another.

It's also only reasonable that a person who is attempting to redpill someone does not come right out and say, "HAIL HITLER GAS THE KIKES, DO YOU DATE NIGGERS? HAVE YOU EVER KISSED A NIGGER BEFORE? LET ME SMELL YOUR BREATH." And to avoid referring to jews as kikes, negroes as niggers, or even negroes for that matter. To avoid immediately saying that Hitler did nothing at all wrong, even. Only very slowly warming the person up to the reality. Mention the good things he did. Eventually they'll reply with, "Yeah, but, he still gassed like, a gorillion jews, dude." You know the rest.


f5d05c No.10397263

>>10397252

It doesn't bother me, it's that the swastika is a symbol of German ethnonationalism, and I'm not sure if the same symbol will have the same power with Americans as their heritage is not quite the same.

>>10397246

Maybe so.


476d10 No.10397267

>>10397255

It's part of the TRS circlejerk now.

Shame we don't have any decent podcast hosts any more. Hate stormfront, hate TRS, hard to find new podcasts to listen to while getting /fit/


6d2b70 No.10397268

File: 35bcc81f6812c64⋯.jpg (119.15 KB, 750x537, 250:179, gtkrwn.jpg)

File: 5744c4c83280a7a⋯.png (958.64 KB, 600x787, 600:787, 1483844905435.png)

>>10397258

This guy gets it.


ede6bd No.10397272

>>10397263

>With Americans as their heritage is not quite the same.

Exactly. It feels like a forced meme when used in American politics.


6d2b70 No.10397279

>>10397267

If you just take the information contained in the TRS podcasts and can look past the bullshit, they do have some decent content. They won't get a dime of my money, but The Alc Right Rises, Exodus Americanus, FtN and a few others actually have good content.

We mix together like oil and water, however, and I wouldn't dare promote them or even recommend them. Just sayin', there is still good content on TRS. I'd try to download from an alternative place for the podcasts, though.

Their forum and ours will never get along but I still listen to some of their stuff.


f4bdfb No.10397301

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

Why hasn't OP been banned yet?


20c032 No.10397311

>>10397258

I agree with you 100% regarding the swastica -it is obvious that we should not care about being offensive. but I think that we need to address another important question - that of whether the swastica can be relevant to a contemporary American white nationalist movement. I have a gut feeling that all of this swastica fetishism is the worship of dead ashes. There is an adage that the Gods die with every generation and need to be reborn in a new, different form. That is, instead of always looking backwards, we need to be more creative and have a dynamic approach. I agree with what >>10397272 said. It just doesn't resonate. This is what I was trying to get at in my earlier post >>10397244.


6d2b70 No.10397318

>>10397311

>swastica

Kek.

>listen guys, we shouldn't care about being offensive

>but still, we need to ditch the swastika amirite?

God, you're fucking horrible at this. Go back to reddit, you faggot scum.


05a588 No.10397319

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

No. The goal is to rebrand racism as a good thing, you giant faggot. How we go about this, I'll leave to smarter anons. But playing on the "racism bad" field will never work.


db002f No.10397322

>>10397241

Stormfront banned it a long time ago already, which is why it's so funny when shills came in here calling us 'Stormfags' when we're actually much more 'extreme'.


d680e3 No.10397330

Perhaps we should be asking how Hitler came up with his symbol in the first place. He was obviously inspired by ancient sources, and then adopted it into his own way. Someone here should know the story of that process.


e3f576 No.10397338

Read some Hans F. K. Gunther and come back when you're ready to be a man OP.


20c032 No.10397345

>>10397318

Are you suggesting that my post is some kind of attempt to trick you into into giving up the swastika? Use it as much as you want, I don't give a fuck. Hell, paint one on the side of a building for all I care. I'm just suggesting that perhaps our movement would be more successful if we occasionally tried to be creative instead of trying to directly replicate the NSDAP all the time.


6d2b70 No.10397348

>>10397345

>"our movement"

You have to go back.


4b104c No.10397357

File: 352de2ca941a723⋯.png (169.94 KB, 480x383, 480:383, get out.png)

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

IT'S NOT, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, WE ARE THE REAL RACISTS AND WE'RE PROUD OF IT.


20c032 No.10397358

File: baa0787796db4ae⋯.png (495.46 KB, 953x1282, 953:1282, baa0787796db4ae0869.png)


6d2b70 No.10397374

>>10397358

>no u: the post


4b104c No.10397377

>>10397018

>this symbol will amplify the memetic power of Kek due to its relation to Ancient Egypt.

Didin't this fucking meme die? Why isin't it dead already?


476d10 No.10397383

>>10397377

It was always a forced meme. Only idiots used it and it died almost immediately


f4bdfb No.10397393

File: bb718a78ede3b10⋯.webm (3.69 MB, 490x360, 49:36, pophitler.webm)

>>10396916

>e3b5c8

>>10397207

>Not calling ourselves National Socialists and distancing ourselves from the symbols of NatSoc could be considered disingenuous, at best, and cowardly, at worst.

Not to mention it would leave us vulnerable to the accurate allegation that we are National Socialists.

They're going to call us ebil Natzees no matter what we call ourselves.

Because the jews recognize us for what we are as soon as they hear our positions and beliefs. So there are two options:

<You're a Nazi!

>N-No I'm n-not. Y-you're the r-real racist!

-

<You're a Nazi!

>You fear us. And after all your people have done, you have every reason to be afraid.

Do you choose the path of weak submissiveness that puts you on the defensive? Or do you have a spin and fight the jew? The choice is yours, but I know what I'll be doing.


d0883e No.10397409

File: 69a86b098443a2f⋯.webm (3.57 MB, 500x282, 250:141, hypnotizing.webm)

>>10397393

The 'nazis vs pop music' meme is underrated.


a7c750 No.10397413

File: e9d150b06b09028⋯.png (11.83 KB, 256x256, 1:1, Saitama face.png)

>>10396394

Fuck off normalfag


9da9d6 No.10397423

File: a6d58aaac9dd3a7⋯.jpg (94.58 KB, 683x1024, 683:1024, fff.jpg)

>>10397311

>I agree with you

>but I don't

Hmmm

>worship of ashes

Preservation of fire


f5d05c No.10397430

File: 488ddb9f7651a5c⋯.webm (7.6 MB, 640x360, 16:9, the world will know.webm)

>>10397409

I prefer this.


f4bdfb No.10397434

File: e2ec049fc1340e8⋯.webm (2.97 MB, 360x240, 3:2, wish-we-could-turn-back-t….webm)

File: ece18ba4bbfb4b8⋯.webm (7.61 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, we need a hero.webm)

>>10397409

I've had a lot of success with it. It's a powerful meme that's very good at short circuiting normalfag programming.


f5d05c No.10397435

File: 963f04f2b65adfc⋯.webm (7.2 MB, 427x240, 427:240, diversity.webm)


f4bdfb No.10397445

>>10397430

That one is good too. Diversity in memes is our strength. :^)

That's a catchy song, shame it's mourning lefty anarchist faggots. Re-purposing the song to suit our propaganda purposes is good though.


f5d05c No.10397447

File: 7e178f25eb6d293⋯.webm (3.22 MB, 320x240, 4:3, wish i could turn back ti….webm)

>>10397434

Check this out.


f5d05c No.10397449

File: 318df6d84d65682⋯.png (5.54 KB, 358x241, 358:241, 1396104583478.png)

>>10397434

shit you already posted it


d0883e No.10397464

File: 3e87d19c1e5f1b7⋯.mp4 (6.2 MB, 352x262, 176:131, Hitler Headpats.mp4)

>>10397434

>>10397447

The Turn Back Time video is a classic.

I've heard rumors it was made by pewdiepie


f4bdfb No.10397479

File: 2a72b306b9c0bd7⋯.webm (7.82 MB, 854x480, 427:240, wish we could turn back t….webm)

File: b4f4e0f94e00208⋯.jpg (374.18 KB, 1200x835, 240:167, 53db915e5a22cc6ade81f2737e….jpg)

>>10397447

>>10397449

kek here, have a Rhodesia one


f0dc80 No.10397484

A rally, organised by CIA-spooks and jews with communist jew controlled drones on the left vs zionist jew controlled drones on the right.

Yet you wonder what the point of all this charade was?

It's just another obvious jew false flag designed to undermine any resistance to jewry, led by jews on both sides.

Bothe sides using the jewish puppet Trump to polarise both sides for the same false jewish narrative.

Everyone involved in this jewish psy-op needs gassing


f5d05c No.10397489

File: a80921cdf5622d3⋯.webm (6.28 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Rhodesia the Truth.webm)

>>10397479

Thanks, have more Rhodesia.


26a6d1 No.10397490

File: c54f456ddbbf851⋯.jpg (115.47 KB, 1024x795, 1024:795, rockwell house.jpg)

We should NEVER abandon the swastika, it is representative of us as Aryans. We ARE racist, no sane person ISN'T.

PR cucks should read No Tolerance.

NOTHING TO THE RIGHT OF US BUT THE WALL ANYONE ELSE IS LEFT.

If you won't join us as radical extremists then to hell with you. The alt-lite must be converted or burned down.


f4bdfb No.10397494

File: 741a27992a69c44⋯.webm (4.35 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, if-they-lied-about-trump.webm)

File: 174c8eeca07b2bb⋯.webm (3.96 MB, 426x320, 213:160, all-the-universe-or-nothi….webm)

>>10397464

Whoever made it was very skilled at editing. The A/V sync is too perfect, particularly when that tank is lifted by an explosion.

I say this thread is now a NatSoc (and related) propaganda thread. Too many people want /pol/ to stop being /pol/. They obviously require an education.

This first webm is great for the payoff at the very end. Gets the almonds activating.


f6c5c8 No.10397499

File: 79874d1a84f7c4e⋯.jpg (22.92 KB, 450x615, 30:41, 01ae9708c75f2d5b4a50224aa5….jpg)

>>10397393

>They're going to call us ebil Natzees no matter what we call ourselves.

Indeed. Could you imagine starting a National Socialist/Fascistic movement while not using the terms National Socialism or Fascism?

>"Hey, these are really interesting ideas, where did you get them from? Who inspired you?"

>Shoves various Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, and Gottfried Feder books under the proverbial rug.

>"Uh. N-Nowhere in particular. I just thought them one day."


8510e2 No.10397510

>>10397490

>We should NEVER abandon the swastika, it is representative of us as Aryans.

It's hardly representative of Aryans. Its part of a branding kit from a failed German political movement. Aryans are representative of Aryans.


2bcbf5 No.10397511

File: 3038aa7957bd5fa⋯.png (34.35 KB, 777x818, 777:818, 3038aa7957bd5fa56177bb0720….png)

>>10397479

Ugh. The more i see on whites whom stayed in africa the more i hate niggers. t. cis white male from mid west and has lived in s8 "little africa" neighborhoods(i was going to college, not on gibs)


6d2b70 No.10397518

>>10397510

>failed German political movement

The NSDAP didn't fail. It's kinda hard when Churchill, FDR and Russia attack you from all sides. The movement didn't fail. The world attacked it.

Furthermore, you're another cocksucking moron. The swastika has roots much older than 1933, you fucking reddit cuck.


26a6d1 No.10397519

File: 6716e2b12c978bf⋯.jpg (165.75 KB, 768x1233, 256:411, eJwNxksOwiAUAMC7cAD-tLQX0V….jpg)

>>10397510

>failed German political

Are you retarded? Or just not from here?


7019cf No.10397560

File: bcb16567eafed87⋯.png (1.24 MB, 1600x1403, 1600:1403, ClipboardImage.png)


7019cf No.10397605

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>10397435

>Quoting that Jewess from that one video word for word


984b98 No.10397626

>>10397519

That really makes the north koreans look unorganized by comparison.


f4bdfb No.10397628

File: a8712fcaa0dd44f⋯.webm (9.68 MB, 320x180, 16:9, coldplay-hitler.webm)

Just got around to encoding this for 8ch

>>10397499

Truly absurd. And of course the jews would be quick to clarify the situation for the normalfags, who would then feel deceived by you (and rightfully so.)

>>10397605

>I think there is a resurgence of anti-Hitlerism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be nationalistic. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the multicultural societies they once were in the last century. Hitler is going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a nationalist mode and Hitler will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.


f4bdfb No.10397636

>>10397626

>That really makes the north koreans look unorganized by comparison.

At the end of the day they're asian insects who at best can only emulate white people.


984b98 No.10397641

File: 7bc7fbc9b1920a7⋯.jpg (61.18 KB, 599x600, 599:600, 1491089324997.jpg)

While PR cucking on ∞chan is retarded when in meat space you really should look at the optics of what your doing.


6d2b70 No.10397644

>>10397641

So what are you implying?

Sounds like you're implying that the swastika shouldn't be used in meat space. Is that what you're implying?


f4bdfb No.10397647

>>10397641

If you're discussing your politics publicly, not just with individuals in private, you will be called a "Nazi" regardless of what you call yourself.

Denying the allegation will make you look dishonest and weak.


d0883e No.10397652

File: 81662a691051c8b⋯.mp4 (623.53 KB, 400x224, 25:14, Light It Up.mp4)

>>10397628

Saved. I get a kind of sick pleasure knowing Cuckplay would be furious with this.


f4bdfb No.10397680

File: 3ed2f04b4198628⋯.mp4 (8.32 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Adolf Hitler - Behind Blue….mp4)

>>10397652

It's a good sort of sick pleasure.


f4bdfb No.10397686

File: dd786ae5ec36938⋯.webm (2.58 MB, 854x480, 427:240, 1497133174850.webm)


f4bdfb No.10397687

File: e3b280c820552b5⋯.webm (4.53 MB, 428x240, 107:60, they-dont-stop-coming.webm)

…on the subject of subverting pop songs.


e82283 No.10397692

File: cb5ef6739a95789⋯.png (274.88 KB, 349x500, 349:500, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 778cdd9f6b5a2a4⋯.png (95.39 KB, 468x290, 234:145, ClipboardImage.png)

>>10397018

>It would symbolize the virile and life-affirming nature of our movement

The ankh symbolizes a vagina, not a dick. That's why it's the fertility symbol and not e.g., the war symbol.


4b6249 No.10397704

Swastikas are cool as an indo European motif but the Nazis lost. This was retardation and/or false flag.

Wouldn't be surprised since it's exactly what I would do to false flag and sabotage. I don't get why they have to run around heiling or whatever, however fun it might be; they are actual autists. Born to heil I guess

If you love this country, if you want a Golden Age future, we have to rule normies, not LARP

So it's really no big deal, BECAUSE they've made themselves disreputable retards and therefore it has nothing to do with our movement (our glorious, winning movement). The media wishes otherwise of course


f4bdfb No.10397707

File: e8ef2d4c55028ad⋯.webm (9.92 MB, 720x404, 180:101, e8ef2d4c55028ad7d8f1d2ecd….webm)

tangentially related


f4bdfb No.10397715

File: 4de3d1fbbf9a0d6⋯.webm (5.35 MB, 550x300, 11:6, degenerations.webm)

File: 55db64ad897b2e1⋯.jpg (38.67 KB, 460x345, 4:3, taleb.jpg)

>>10397704

Our victory will not be possible until we deprogram normalfags. As long as you pretend to not be a National Socialist, you're letting the Jews control the game. You can never hope to win with such a strategy.

Lurk 10 more years.


e82283 No.10397719

>>10397707

That's pretty cool anon.


d0883e No.10397725

File: 185ae622d606c2f⋯.mp4 (1.04 MB, 562x360, 281:180, feels.mp4)

>>10397707

>>10397715

These videos are dishing out the feels for some reason.


984b98 No.10397734

File: 488964fa1f4484d⋯.jpg (11.93 KB, 264x191, 264:191, download (3).jpg)

File: f2ab6cdf7b287f0⋯.jpg (43.99 KB, 450x316, 225:158, f2ab6cdf7b287f01be2b013bf1….jpg)

File: 7e2920edcf959d4⋯.mp4 (2.44 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, PEWDIEPIE - DEATH TO ALL J….mp4)

>>10397644

>>10397647

Don't fabricate implications like a kike. What I'm stating is that you should consider the optics. If your objectives are best met by larpping as a civic nationalist than do that. If your objectives are best met by flying the flag of the National Socialist German Workers' Party then that's what you should do.

I used to be Mormon, served the mission and the whole 9 yards. Here are some conversion wisdom. You feed an infant milk before you feed him meat. If you feed the infant meat he will vomit it up without getting nutrition from it. The blue pilled are like the infant. You must find the right red pills to feed them and when they grow more mature in there understanding they will be able to accept more knowledge without throwing it up. By going full 1488 most people will instantly disregard anything you have to say, they will erect barriers in there mind and anything you do say may even have negative effect.

<that nazi believes this thing, it must be wrong, I cant believe something a nazi believes

PR has its place, and that place is prominent; half of Europe treated the Germans as liberators. They did not announce to the public "gas the kikes race war now" they called out Jewish abuses on the populous, called out the Jews for being lazy and subversive, created re-education through labor policies. They were reasonable. You cant openly call for the genocide of all earths brown people and expect even the majority of white people to back you.

On chans and other online sources being the big bad boogie man is useful, it makes our enemies look irrational when they sperg out at us. We want a good portion of leftists to think anyone not as left as them is a literally nazi, they will push the normies to us. This rally would have been more effective if it where seen as conservatives being attacked by leftist thugs than as nazis brawling with "counter protesters" and "anti nazis". I know the media will say what they say regardless, they are the lügenpresse after all but the imagery of the swastika is very powerful to many normies who have been conditioned to automatically associate it with evil. A protest like this will for many only reinforce that connotation.

In conclusion, I don't really know what I'm saying. You do what you want but I'm not flying the swastika in meat space any time soon.


f4bdfb No.10397746

File: e3f4185214dd687⋯.webm (11.83 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 【C Y B E R N ∆ Z I】 The L….webm)

>>10397734

>If your objectives are best met by larpping as a civic nationalist than do that.

What will you do when the jews call you a "Nazi", despite your civnat larping? Will you own up to it, or will you lie and squirm like a rat?


6d2b70 No.10397753

File: 5872e1d9a02f7d1⋯.jpg (64.24 KB, 600x600, 1:1, cc38ca3bd0f0cd02bc7c5082b9….jpg)

>>10397734

> You do what you want but I'm not flying the swastika in meat space any time soon.

Because you're a faggot. You don't have the balls and you want to discourage others from doing it.

Go back to reddit with your shit memes.


f4bdfb No.10397758

>>10397753

excellent meme. Fuck those disingenuous cucks, they deserve more abuse from the right.


b4bc0b No.10397760

File: 943db59437414cd⋯.jpg (113.36 KB, 1008x1200, 21:25, how purity spirals work.jpg)

The swastika helps weed out the shabbos goyim and cuckservatives/civic nationalists.


db6df1 No.10397768

File: 0fd8c4e50c2d1d7⋯.jpg (1018.64 KB, 2174x2559, 2174:2559, army.jpg)

>>10396394

I actually agree with you OP - when it comes to public appearances or related recruitment events. Most people are not ready so you'll just repel them if you go too far too soon. There's a reason why full-on NatSoc parties are a tiny (read:powerless) fringe IRL.

That said, on the Web we should go full range from the smaller red pills to the big ones. The unifying principle should be White Pride and White Nationalism - something that's much more palatable to the general public. We're not gonna win this without having most of our people on our side (or sympathetic at least). It's as simple as that.


e82283 No.10397791

File: 5ad2384bf1b98b2⋯.png (160.22 KB, 540x573, 180:191, 5ad2384bf1b98b21f7c2036703….png)

>>10397760

Is it this why it's called purity spiral? Because if it is, I just caught on to it now and feel pretty stupid to ask.


f0f861 No.10397795

>>10397768

>implying the faggots are more powerful.

Shoot a billion cottonballs at the enemy is not more powerful than shooting a couple of actual rounds, you know?

If we cannot get the full healing then we haven't been healed. Anything lower than WW2 efforts against the kikes is pissing in the wind.

If you give the kikes the little finger he will pull your entire arm out of its socked, beat you with it while crying how evil you are for attacking him.


984b98 No.10397819

File: 7e783dab999030c⋯.jpg (556.46 KB, 2048x1363, 2048:1363, 1498260523815.jpg)

>>10397746

I have an aerospace company that is a government contractor. I wont tell my co workers that I want to gas the jews and ship all blacks back to Africa. I'd promote it anonymously online. I'd red pill them on false flags the kikes pull and how they should stay vigilant against Chinese and Israeli economic spying. I'm not on neet bucks, I work with black people and feminists and liberals. Maybe I'll give them some "micro aggressions" to stew over but I'm not going to fall on my petard if such an action will have zero beneficial impact. If I where a politicization I would do likewise, hiding your power level is an important skill if you want to be successful. Sure you can "dog whistle" from time to time but there are certain desired national policies it would be best not to admit to publicly supporting if you'r not living inawoods.

Never do the thing they would choose to false flag. If you want to blow up a bunch of kikes or fags it would be best if you made a plausible effort to convert to islam first. If you want to take out some cuckservitives then join antifa first. Don't give us all a bad name and make it that much harder for us to convert the normies.

Hit peaces on the scary alt right's secret /pol/ board will gain little traction with normies, hit peaces of shit that happens out there can catch fire in the attention span of the plebs.


984b98 No.10397825

>>10397791

Yes and also shills will encourage you to fuck up your life and get yourself fired or arrested over dumb shit.


3f2b96 No.10397844

>>10396442

Disinfo.

>>10396717

Lurk more.

>>10396957

Nazism isnt the same as National Socialism. In this case it matters what you use.

>>10396977

This anon is right. Don't be be afraid of the best symbols ever been put in use. You have no idea how powerful and beautiful the swastika is.


f0f861 No.10397848

>>10395521

This is what you get if you aim for anything lower than the purity of the swastika.


7117a1 No.10397850

>>10397715

This. Fuck off PR cucks


000000 No.10397872

This is not a right question.

The right question is

what is the strategic value of Crucifix, Jesus Christ and Christianity in general?


2c6e18 No.10397901

File: 44374a7db2ef7f9⋯.jpg (174.27 KB, 652x492, 163:123, Battle-of-Vienna.jpg)

>>10397795

>Shoot a billion cottonballs at the enemy is not more powerful than shooting a couple of actual rounds, you know?

Yeah, that sounds right but it's a senseless analogy for this particular situation. You need to be smart and adjust to your environment. You can expose your power level in Poland much more (physically kicking shitskin butt) that in Germany (where you'll get arrested for a wrong tweet). The reason why they fear us is because we're smarter.

Lets say the population in your country is divided 10-80-10. This is a fairly common distribution where 10% is on your side, 10% against you and the rest (80%) are weakly aligned, undecided or too scared/lazy to get too political. For the most part, it is the ability of your tip of the spear (10%) to influence and gain support among the 80% that will decide everything.

At the moment, only White Nationalism is capable of playing in that arena. NatSoc could come later but that's a bridge we can cross when ready.


d0d726 No.10397903

>>10397872

What you propose has no meaning.

The only white countries that have any real form of resistance to jewry utilise Christianity as the core binding factor.

Americans and Anglos are so jewified that all their 'resistance' movements as specifically run and financed by neocon zionist jews and encourage multiculturalism, infighting between Christians and pagans (when no Anglo or American is a real Pagan or Christian, both are abominations of what was once Christendom or Paganism).

There is only resistance in a few Eastern European countries, they use Christianity as their unifying symbol and a resistance to jewry.

Anglo/American's are now alt-right, a jewish creation designed to neutralise any true resistance to jewry, in fact all they do is play up to the cartoon nazi image and ignore the kikes running the organisations.


f40364 No.10397910

>>10397479

I fucking love Ridgebacks. Most people think a dog is scared when it tucks its tail between its legs, but when a Ridgeback does it it means it's 100% ready to absolutely fuck your shit up. These dogs were bred to fight lions and tigers, they tuck their tail in so that wild animals can bite and hold them by the tail. Most people don't know this, especially niggers of course, so when they think it's safe to waltz all over the dog they get the surprise of their lives.


76af73 No.10397942

>>10396394

I agree with your observations, OP. No one can force the red pill. All must come to it little by little. Look at everything Trump is accomplishing against the MSM and Koshervatives while still having 3 and a half years left in his first term. No one needs to be openly extremist to actually be an extremist. They just need policies that are extremist in all but name. Accusing Liberals of blowing their load too early with Antifa only to turn around and do the same thing with neo-Nazis and such is obviously not the best idea.


f40364 No.10397943

>>10397510

>a failed German political movement

>kikes had to sic half the world on them to bring it down

That's hardly a failure, you faggot cuck.


f0f861 No.10397945

>>10397901

>Germany (where you'll get arrested for a wrong tweet). The reason why they fear us is because we're smarter.

>They fear us because we conform to their standards

>They do not fear bad tweets because people know they can get jailed for it

How about we keep up the bad tweets and the empowerment of the swastika?

You fear cucks in black robes donning hammers more than kikes and invaders, it seems.

If you go any lower than the purity of the swastika then they will censor that, too.

It just has a bigger delay.

Just look at fucking Pepe. A symbol of hate.

When theft (Pepe and lower) is punished the same way as murder (swastika) then it makes no sense to stick to theft.

This also translates to the real world.

If you end up (ahaha as if someone like you would, but the point stands) deciding to strike against the foe.

Anything below a kike is a waste of your freedom and health.

Anything other than full on hatespeech is equally a waste, since you'll get punished just as much for putting quotation marks around "refugee".

Every inch you give them will be exploited, but I understand your fear and everyone elses fear, including mine.


6d2b70 No.10397955

>>10397942

>I agree with you, OP

>it's not a good idea to be an extremist

>(1)

How many VPNs are you rotating through?


76af73 No.10397983

>>10397955

<it's not a good idea to be an extremist

>>10397942

>They just need policies that are extremist in all but name.

You'll never convince normals by being dishonest, anon. I know /pol/ says to "Jew the Jew," but lying like the Jew isn't meant to be a part of those flipped tactics.


f40364 No.10397993

>>10397819

>that pic

If you eat companion animals you're a fucking subhuman.


197054 No.10398000

Can you fuck off back to reddit you retarded fucking faggot?


6d2b70 No.10398009

File: 32447209c8c70fd⋯.jpg (250.73 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1402383189240.jpg)

>>10397983

>normals

What the fuck is that shit?

Seriously, we know you're not from here and you really need to go back. We see right through this shit.


f0f861 No.10398011

>>10397945

To add to this:

Sure, you might get a few more people over with something milder, but mild will not have the full healing effect in the end.

Not only did you have to work hard to empower something milder, which you'll have to then deprogram, too to get the stronger dose.

When you could have, little by little, empowered the full healing path.

You have a full legacy of "cool nazi shit" that everybody secretly envies, even the kikes who had to be barred with laws from making their holocaust jackoff nazi porn-porn, as in, literal porn where they got off to porn shit involving their holohoax narrative.

Why settle for anything less?

If you settle for anything less then you'll GET anything less.

Pepe is very recent, yet the resistance against kikes and political correctness has risen throughout the years before he was reborn from our spirit.

Trump was elected by people who were fed up, and they were fed up way before Pepe.

Pepe is great and all, but the full glory of our people must be restored.

Swastikas aren't just for Germans and Wehraboos.

It's the rune that empowers all who are of white European descent, and then some.


000000 No.10398241

>>10397903

You are wrong with your facts. The US is one of the most christian countries in the world and yet there is not much resistance to jewry and a lot of the opposite.

Easter European countries resist to the jews not because they are uber-christian but because they are racially-homogeneous. Only poles are crazy christian and coincidentally Poland sometimes called a "jewish paradise".


422458 No.10398401

File: d42c9932341308b⋯.jpg (67.67 KB, 700x700, 1:1, wojack_crying.jpg)

>>10397199

>you will never go back in time to warn Hitler that enigma was cracked


81b755 No.10398404

>>10396394

You’re too retarded to be posting here, so why not fuck the hell off?


8cc323 No.10398419

>>10397178

I see your point.


81b755 No.10398420

>>10398401

>you will never go back in time with a history book to warn Hitler not to let the fucking British leave Dunkirk

>you will never also tell him to keep dropping fliers over Britain that detail what Stalin is going to do to all of Europe after you sign the white peace to get the British people on your side for that forthcoming war

>you will never tell Hitler to directly address the American people in a speech (so that foreign media has to cover it) telling them about FDR’s unconstitutional Lend-Lease to the Soviets while the US isn’t even at war–and while the US government does not recognize the USSR as a nation

As far as the Enigma code is concerned, I’m GLAD that it was broken (given that they lost the war), because NOWHERE in ANY coded messages during the ENTIRE WAR was there ANY order for genocide or killing of camp prisoners in any fashion. And we only have proof of that from the cracking.


8bbe73 No.10398427

File: 56b63b7ff8e3ab1⋯.png (252.63 KB, 500x350, 10:7, time has stopped.png)

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc.

Fuck off back to reddit, you cuck


8bbe73 No.10398432

>>10398420

This, I love using that talking point. They thought their code was secure, and yet there's zero chatter about this massive plan to gas all the kikes while simultaneously fighting a war on multiple fronts? Bullshit.


000000 No.10398522

The Swastika is a symbol of German Nationalism but it has come to mean more to some people.

Now what it means and who those people are depends.


d1f6de No.10398686

>muh symbolisim

>goy, continue to brand yourself so we can point and say your evil

OP has a point, the swastika has been appropriated by (((them))) and programmed into normies as the symbol of all that is evil in the world. It illicits a reaction in the head of the average person like pavlovs dog. All the faggots who do not even give this 1 second of thought are either shills or fucking idiots. We will never get anywhere using icons that have already been stolen, and when it does show up at rallies, it is used as evidence to immediately shut down the conversation. (((They))) have been winning for 70+ years and it is time for somebody with half a brain to start leading the fight without yelling "gas the kikes" right out of the g.ate.

>inb4 you are a shill

white and proud, blue eyes and blond hair niggers


91b413 No.10398726

Because it's about speaking truth to power, not PR cucking for muh normies. Everyone was a brainwashed normie once.


6d2b70 No.10398746

>>10398686

>OP has a point

>let's stop using the swastika

>(1)

Gas yourself, faggot.


32621e No.10398767

File: 875fa799ada5789⋯.jpg (87.38 KB, 600x805, 120:161, 875fa799ada578944c467eb0d7….jpg)

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa

That wasn't the goal, you dumb cuck. Not for any /pol/ack anyway. The goal is to make it known that there are white men standing OPENLY for what they believe. Many people are scared to even consider certain ideas because of possibly being given a label. Once they see that others are doing it anyway and getting away with it, the whole thing becomes an empty threat.

Go back to the_donald, you fucking DR3 cuck


ddfdb2 No.10398789

File: 37dc156af3c0786⋯.jpg (87.22 KB, 778x741, 778:741, swastika-red-staroriginal.jpg)

File: bcbd1d902fd3e69⋯.gif (50.69 KB, 400x296, 50:37, 1918Pfalz.gif)

File: 5be97a7eb2f9a64⋯.jpg (135.47 KB, 839x530, 839:530, gs_b06_0507a.jpg)

File: e2ed2f3ecd6e8a3⋯.jpg (43.52 KB, 600x383, 600:383, american-swastika-WWII-192….jpg)

The kikes have always used the swastika, OP better ask them…


385732 No.10398818

File: acd3541cc9ec850⋯.png (77.11 KB, 416x334, 208:167, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 51154cb632f09ec⋯.png (15.91 KB, 498x231, 166:77, ClipboardImage.png)

What about the lemniscate? The embodiment of pre-creation chaos, the infinite divine, and the West's quest for boundless achievement.

Spengler christened the lemniscate the prime symbol of western culture because of our tendency towards the transcendental, as evidenced in our music, architecture, and mathematics.


1a39d8 No.10398821

>>10398686

>>10398726

>>10396394

OK GUYS. The Left WILL call you a Nazi no matter what you do, simply because it is an effective smear. What normies hate isn't Nazis, or swastikas, they hate WEAKNESS and GUILT. So when the Left labels you a Nazi and you try to run from it and apologize, normies smell weakness and turn against you.

Trump's brilliance was that he never apologized for anything, whatever he said he stuck by it, or at least appeared to.

When talking heads and politicians get on tv and start acting all morally self-righteous and powerful in denouncing Nazis that gets normies excited, they think these talking heads must be saying something real important they should listen to because why/how else would they be talking so powerfully? The content doesn't matter, what matters is how the talking heads form their statements.

You powerfully denounce Nazis, or Ponies or Ice Cream, it doesn't matter, your tone and force is what matters and attract people. Same principle when you apologize for things, especially things you don't have any control over; normal people hate that weakness, they know that you just fuck up everything you're a part of.

If someone calls you a nazi, don't run from it, just assert "Damn right, and I'm about to Blitzkrieg dat ass!", because that will get you plenty of laughs, probably even get you laid.


1b40a2 No.10398827

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

Yeah that wasn't even remotely the goal. Truth is we ARE the real racists and we aren't afraid to let people know.

Our message is not to cuck, its to let the white people of America, the majority of whom actually agree with 80% of our views, know that they are not alone in their thoughts and its okay to express them despite what a decade+ of political correctness indoctrination has told them otherwise.


745ebc No.10398840

>>10396394

>racism is bad

>because all races are equal n shieeet

>because evolution isn't real.

Reminder that [Anti-racism] is a codeword for [creationism-lite] too.

Remind (((them))) and their faggy lapdogs, and see their heads explode.


a68a18 No.10398850

File: db0ae68688f32d3⋯.jpg (49.65 KB, 820x546, 410:273, 2f6c38a436778a6c2cb1a7d3c3….jpg)

>>10398789

If you have something to say then just fucking say it instead of posting out of context pictures and make vague implications via redtext.


ddfdb2 No.10398871

File: 1dcff2db1ae4abc⋯.jpg (74.9 KB, 448x600, 56:75, redsw2.jpg)

File: eca9c6347b3765f⋯.jpg (30.6 KB, 500x351, 500:351, redswast.jpg)

File: 111e209f5fa3e64⋯.jpg (111.04 KB, 296x424, 37:53, Red_Swastika_Society_membe….jpg)

Both Yellow and red swastika society was btw created by the kikes, and the Nanking Massacre is a 'hoax'.

Remember the nords used the swastika 10k years ago, the hinds for some thousand years only. Thats why the kikes had to genocide the whites living in north america (Mississippi) between the 17th and 19th century. (Proof incoming, prepare to learn about your ancestors..)

>The more you know..


ddfdb2 No.10398873


a68a18 No.10398922

File: ab2f4d87d5acf78⋯.jpg (607.28 KB, 3000x2047, 3000:2047, 1448994032191.jpg)

>>10398873

A very well reasoned and thoroughly supported argument anon.


a40106 No.10398926

The left has made unprecedented gains over the last several decades while proudly marching under Soviet flags, representing a system that catastrophically failed.

I'm not saying marching around with Swastikas is helpful to the cause, but stop pearl clutching about it. Normie millenials and generation Z literally don't care about the holocaust any more than they do about the holodomor.


916b45 No.10398928

File: 464c1e0e45f2f95⋯.jpg (52.58 KB, 590x438, 295:219, aa372cead8056a45f52f7e037a….jpg)

>>10396847

>>10396394

>MUH PR

Can confirm. BOTH Muh PR and no PR is needed, depending on who you want to reach. For shits and giggles once i even made a leftist agree with me because i repackaged NatSoc policies with lefty-think and he ate it.

This is exactly why Trump won. Technically he advocates a lot of Nationalist policies, but always kept his distance from obvious german nazi symbolism so the kikes are mad as fuck about it because they can't paint him as such.

Obvously kikes would still try to paint us as nazis and discredit us just like they try with Trump, HOWEVER many normies will not swallow it if we don't act like typical hollywood nazis. It's a possible tactic to defeat the kike media, and Trump has proved it.

Normies are simply fucking mediocre in politics and have been indoctrinated by kikes to flinch everytime they see nazi stuff, however this is also a weakness because if you distance yourself from nazi symbolism, nomies won't buy the media shit about you being muh ebil nazim, because they frankly don't know a single thing about NatSoc except those symbols.

Hitler chose heils, roman salutes and the swastika as symbols on his own and made them attractive to his own people. It's possibly neccesary to Americanize NatSoc idology and make it attractive here.

TL;DR Copy NatSoc policies 1:1, while ignoring muh ebil hollywood nazi symbolism to throw off normies and also fuck with the media.


ca6f29 No.10398951

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa

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e1770a No.10399017

File: 4bdad715a9119e5⋯.jpg (114.6 KB, 1241x1191, 1241:1191, 4bdad715a9119e5136fcdf1484….jpg)

>>10397494

>tfw when America answered, "Nothingness"

Fucking shameful.


e1770a No.10399053

File: 7b96cd06211342a⋯.jpg (1006.8 KB, 2123x3064, 2123:3064, Hitler.jpg)

>>10397734

>using a meat analogy

Take the vegpill, you degenerate.


e1770a No.10399080

File: 0d7da8b2162d765⋯.png (51.01 KB, 268x350, 134:175, c0348f9a5cc24f5347fea13cfb….png)

>>10398928

I honestly agree with this, we need to find cultural symbols that resonate with Americans, while pushing them towards the NatSoc ideal. I've already found success in converting hippies and altruistic types towards Nationalist thought by just regurgitating a lot of Savitri Devi's ideas while putting them in my own words. What I think is important is to find a way to attract all whites who are able to see past the shadows on the wall to our side. I want both hunters and vegans under our banner, I want both good ol' boys and city slickers fighting for the white race, and we need symbols that work for all of them.


f0f861 No.10399082

>>10399053

>Take the I would die in winter if it weren't for my supplements and on-schedule-like-a-diabetic lifestyle pill.

That feel when too smart to make it through winter by eating some delicious meat stew and instead having to gnaw on tree bark.

Adolf is a great role model but he was also sick, he was a war veteran, he couldn't even see right for quite some time thanks to getting hit in WW1.

Should we now take the get your eyes gassed pill, too?


e1770a No.10399113

File: 840b2aacd417e24⋯.jpg (84.13 KB, 634x402, 317:201, hitlerdeer_thumb.jpg)

>>10399082

>the get your eyes gassed pill

I've never heard this before? What are you talking about? Also, I don't care if you hunt your own meat or have a local farm you get your meat from that is run by whites and the animals aren't horribly abused, however, I need to make it clear to you that eating meat is not necessary for health. Especially not in a modern society where we have access to fresh fruits and vegetables. You want vegans on your side, trust me. By allowing purely altruistic people to find a home in your movement, you gain a moral superiority, the National Socialists of Germany had that.


492926 No.10399150

File: e578aad331b2844⋯.png (1.02 MB, 832x2832, 52:177, 1482051625689-2.png)

File: 0acc27d173e0123⋯.jpg (78.22 KB, 490x480, 49:48, 1482051625689-4.jpg)

File: 2f9a302b36b9193⋯.jpg (13.71 KB, 182x255, 182:255, 1484234592572.jpg)


e1770a No.10399164

File: d7b97353ea3b2c9⋯.png (104.58 KB, 600x625, 24:25, desmond doss with bible.png)

>>10399150

What if we could turn the Christian Cross into a swastika? But do so in a subtle way that normies wouldn't believe was actually a swastika, thus having it resonate with the many white Christian Americans who aren't totally cucked?


f0f861 No.10399172

>>10399113

>You want vegans on your side, trust me

No, they're faggots who will die without supplements.


e1770a No.10399182

>>10399172

How did Pythagoras and the Neo-Pythagoreans survive without supplements? I'm not going to keep arguing with you because so many threads have been derailed with these discussions. We don't need to be friends, but we are on the same side. There are pro-white vegans and vegetarians, every animal sanctuary in the U.S. is run by white people, Gene Baur is 100% German in his genetics, etc. Anyways, you obviously don't like vegans or vegetarians, are you a hunter? If you're a hunter I can respect you, if you're just some fat fuck who gets his meat from McDonalds, I have nothing but contempt for you.


f0f861 No.10399184

File: adef9a22039e348⋯.png (206.95 KB, 480x331, 480:331, ape_pope.png)

>>10399164

>What if we could turn the Christian Cross into a swastika?

Are you trying to be the biggest faggot of the thread now?

Eat some B12 to rectify your madness immediately.

Also, it is impossible to not be at least partially cucked while following a foreign religion that anyone in the world can adopt and look legit, too.

Unlike native european religions that make any nigger who hails Thor look like an idiot.

Wheras it's perfectly fine for a nigger to praise Jesus.


f0f861 No.10399190

>>10399182

>Pythagoras

Was a fucking lunatic.


e1770a No.10399194

>>10399184

I don't support Christianity. However, Christianity is very popular with rural whites, and Southerners. If we could create a symbol that resonates with them, that isn't actually Christian in nature, it would be a wonderful situation.


492926 No.10399200

File: 9d984036c8317f9⋯.jpg (68.97 KB, 500x400, 5:4, be63d359e160f953328de62e1b….jpg)

File: 208b21060e3e576⋯.png (9.19 KB, 400x400, 1:1, swastika2.png)

File: 06229c4b40216aa⋯.png (1.78 KB, 275x183, 275:183, crescent-swastika-3.png)


f0f861 No.10399215

>>10399194

>the cross is popular with rural whites and Southerners

Remember that "stop cucking for anything less" thing that has been posted since OP made this shit thread?

Go swastika or go home.


b2bfcd No.10399221

>>10399182

>Pythagoras and the Neo-Pythagoreans

Careful. It's surprisingly hard to verify what he and his followers REALLY did and believed. Pythagoras was basically one of the first Freemasons, combining secrecy and veiled hierarchies with number mysticism.


492926 No.10399246

File: 44048c986ed2dff⋯.jpg (9.66 KB, 220x220, 1:1, sun_cross.jpg)

File: c227a19a2054cc8⋯.png (22.93 KB, 220x300, 11:15, 2343e2620ede6afe733453f326….png)

File: 44ebf861c20fcb9⋯.jpg (47.16 KB, 950x950, 1:1, celtic-cross.jpg)

>>10399194

Get them to burn crosses, fuck cross worship it's like worshiping the bullet that killed your childhood hero.


e1770a No.10399253

File: ea709ac76a10842⋯.jpg (54.39 KB, 422x640, 211:320, cms_visual_945333.jpg_1493….jpg)

File: 8faaaf4ed79b859⋯.jpg (22.15 KB, 265x336, 265:336, apollonius.jpg)

>>10399215

Have you ever heard the phrase, "Milk for babes, mead for men" It's very true. What we here on /pol/ can handle, is not palatable for the masses. They simply can't handle it.

>>10399221

Well at a certain point, everything in the past is subject to debate, but Neo-Pythagoreans throughout history did follow vegetarian, and sometimes even vegan, lifestyles. For example Apollonius of Tyana, some of his life is myth, but certain parts, his ethical vegetarianism for example are documented by many sources and are certainly true. I'm merely using Pythagoras as an example that vegetarianism is possible, and has always been possible. It might not always be easy, but you can do it if you want to.


3061cd No.10399264

File: 9a8c685721a7266⋯.jpg (5.24 KB, 480x360, 4:3, truthsymbol.jpg)

Just googled "truth symbol" and this was the first image to show up. Not a bad start.


e1770a No.10399267

>>10399264

That has potential, what are its origins?


695a21 No.10399282

>>10397187

if you're gonna be called a nazi anyway, and secretly you are a nazi

then just be honest and wear the swastika with the pride it deserves

For thousands of years it has served your ancestors and it would serve you well too

George Lincoln Rockwell ran into the same problem, they would be secret nazis and infiltrate the government to then reveal themselves at the right time to turn the apparatus against the jew

laughable in retrospect

they would be found out ahead of time and subverted, threathened with being outed as a nazi, and they laugh at you for being too scared to even call yourself a natsoc. Because it means they already won

the jew lives or dies by narrative

it is only when GLR decided to go full out that he became such a threat that they had to have him killed

just look at the kikes shilling this board of a not even a hundred thousand anons, because to allow even a single group to hold the public oppinion of

GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW

and

KILL EVERY KIKE, PRAISE KEK

makes it an available option

jews spend all this money on the holohoax because the natural tendency IS to kill them all

It has happened hundreds of times, total exclusion, even kill on sight laws.

Our resolution and dedication to our blood and history is our victory. The fact they can't round us up and gas us means we can all work tirelessly to ultimate aryan victory over the universe

the stars belong to us, and no parasite will deny us our birthright


31ef56 No.10399289

>>10399113

Anon. Humans are meat-heavy omnivores.

Veganism is for the dead.


b2bfcd No.10399308

>>10399253

Vegetarianism is feasible, but veganism (i.e. living without ANY animal products) is retarded and, in the case of children, outright criminal. Mothers pushing veganism on their children should be put into concentration camps.


492926 No.10399319

File: 334d65a0f2f1bb0⋯.jpg (159.96 KB, 1024x703, 1024:703, SrimadBhagavatam1.1.2.jpg)

>>10399253

We would have to legitimately enlighten them. Fortunately books are already written on the matter.

http://bhagavata.org/


87e688 No.10399323

>>10399289

>Omnivore

<Humans are the only omnivore without claws and sharp teeth

The only thing bear-like about you is your fat ass.


e1770a No.10399341

File: 8d8c5f6cee36f20⋯.jpg (103.77 KB, 634x676, 317:338, Nina and Randa Nelson.jpg)

File: edfd9287de0a826⋯.jpg (116.66 KB, 900x900, 1:1, vegan since birth.jpg)

>>10399308

I really don't want to derail this thread, but you are wrong. Children can survive off their mother's milk alone. I know healthy teens who have been vegan their entire lives. No one has any right to tell parents how to raise their children, if you start pushing that white vegans parents can't raise their children to live their ideal lifestyle, then you are my enemy. I hope you do not continue to be my enemy, we should be allies. I wont tell you how to raise your kids, and you wont tell me how to raise mine.


87e688 No.10399357

>>10399308

>think of the children

Your meat industry inculcated opinion is based on literally nothing. There are plenty of healthy vegan children.


4cf448 No.10399367

If you give in one inch you lose everything okay.

They will always make you disavow next, and the next thing. Just like Neekeri before 80's in Finland meant just black, commies artificially made it equal to nigger, because cucks let them. You are a cuck even considering this, you can never appease the enemy enough, you have already lost.


e1770a No.10399373

File: e0ad4a9b5e578b7⋯.jpg (55.24 KB, 400x300, 4:3, fat-kits-eating-mcdonalds.jpg)

>>10399357

I have a feeling he has no interest in putting mothers who feed their children fast food into concentration camps. I'm assuming he's just naive, so i wont hold his opinion against him.


b2bfcd No.10399388

>>10399323

Non-sequitur. What's important is the make-up of the digestive tract. Between the extremes of bovines and felines, humans are more to the side of meat-based omnivores.

>>10399341

>>10399357

>Children can survive off their mother's milk alone. I know healthy teens who have been vegan their entire lives.

Nice anecdote. I've seen kids coming with severe iron and B-range deficiencies coming into ER, bodies full of blue blisters. Wasn't pretty. Can it be done? Yeah, perhaps, if the mother takes really great care and hardcorely educates herself. Many vegans don't do that and just like to virtue signal.

>Your meat industry inculcated opinion is based on literally nothing.

Human digestive tract and teeth formation clearly show adaptation to meat consumption.

>There are plenty of healthy vegan children.

I freely accept that they might exist, but I've also seen the opposite. Histrionic vegan moms carrying their anemic, sickly offspring to ER. If they're lucky, brain development hasn't been impaired.

>>10399373

>I have a feeling he has no interest in putting mothers who feed their children fast food into concentration camps.

Yes, I would do that, too.


2c6e18 No.10399400

>>10397494

>Too many people want /pol/ to stop being /pol/.

Unfortunately, /pol/ has changed. It didn't grow due to the BO's fuckery and now the influx of shills has made it very difficult for newfags to get the right picture.


e1770a No.10399419

>>10399388

>I've seen tons of vegan mothers carrying their anemic sickly offspring into the ER

Nigger, now I know you're lying. There aren't enough vegans in the world that exist for you to have seen more than one of these cases at best. I'm doubting you've seen any at all.


3061cd No.10399433

File: b950258d09973d7⋯.jpg (13.73 KB, 480x360, 4:3, truthsymbol2.jpg)

>>10399267

Can't find anything except a 10 second video of it on jewtube. Played around with it using my shitty paintshop skills and gave it a little bit of an 8pol flair with a subtle swastika.


f0f861 No.10399446

>>10399341

> if you start pushing that white vegans parents can't raise their children to live their ideal lifestyle, then you are my enemy.

Oh, no. Not that. What would we do without the insane?


b2bfcd No.10399451

>>10399419

>Nigger, now I know you're lying. There aren't enough vegans in the world that exist for you to have seen more than one of these cases at best. I'm doubting you've seen any at all.

Kek. You don't live in a big city, do you? Newsflash, pop veganism has become a virtue-signalling fad during the last years, lots of dumb mothers pushing it on their offspring. If you knew about veganism you'd know that the B vitamins are the greatest problem. Can it be mititavistockd by supplementation? Yes, partially. Is it healthy lifestyle adapted to basic human physiology? No. Vegetarianism is ok, though.


bc4ef4 No.10399452

Notice how the shills cry on one hand that Spencer is not "edgy" enough. And then they speak out of the their side of their mouths and condemn people for public displays of Swastikas.

The goal is clear; Condemn any and ALL forms of activism. Demoralize Whites into inaction.


f0f861 No.10399464

File: e55c363c8ecbc32⋯.jpg (47.11 KB, 600x931, 600:931, does_this_look_christian_t….jpg)

File: 4905454f653241b⋯.jpg (267.67 KB, 850x621, 850:621, does_this_look_christian_t….jpg)

File: 23244d85cdbb4ae⋯.jpg (5.01 KB, 300x189, 100:63, ss.jpg)

File: 1cd5aa854c52962⋯.jpg (164.96 KB, 1400x976, 175:122, praise_the_sun.jpg)

File: 019d0f3b064beeb⋯.mp4 (9.93 MB, 640x360, 16:9, weimar.mp4)

>>10399253

>What we here on /pol/ can handle, is not palatable for the masses. They simply can't handle it.

Behold the pictures and behold the webm.

The webm came first and then the pictures.

Does Weimar look like it was "ready to handle all that evil nazi shit?"

Evidently, yes.

It was. Weimar Germany was full of awful faggotry and it still worked.

Just gas yourself you limp wristed, mentally deficient "I'm a real boy too" vegan Pinocchio.


f0f861 No.10399469

>>10399464

> behold the webm.

well, mp4, but you get the point.

Well, others, not you, e1770a, you caught the deficiently dumb.


3061cd No.10399470

File: 2ccbebc2765201d⋯.jpg (12.37 KB, 480x360, 4:3, truthsymbol3.jpg)

>>10399433

Take 3. I'm done.


f6b370 No.10399530

I'm beginning to think that controlled opposition folks like Spencer are accidentally helping us more than hurting us. Not with the (((implicit))) shit, that's pure faggotry and cancer. But some of these over the top Nazi kkk rally type things are probably working towards our benefit. We have to much momentum to be stopped by such primitive jewry anymore.

Obviously Spencer and his ilk still have to go, no defending his shit. But I do find it hilarious that them and their (((handlers))) may be unintentionally funding portions of our rise.

If there's one thing I keep learning, it's that PR cucking is almost never worth it. Maybe in Trump's case, or some tavistockway redpillers like Molyjew, but for random folks, especially online, ESPECIALLY anonymous? PR serves no purpose but that of the jew.


e1770a No.10399549

>>10399451

>if you knew about veganism

I've been vegan for over a decade, you dumb nigger. I volunteer tons of my time at animal sanctuaries and interact with lots of vegans. If there are dumb fucks in the big cities feeding their babies oreos and getting surprised when they get sick, that isn't on veganism, that's on fucking retards.


e1770a No.10399561

>>10399464

Nazism did not have a ton of baggage when it came to Germany, it was a new movement, you idiot. Hitler didn't merely ape movements of the past, he created something new.


f20651 No.10399624

>>10397943

Hardly a success considering they no longer exist


e1770a No.10399662

>>10399624

Wrong. The Germans lost in the end, but they uncovered many hidden secrets, and serve as a great example for us. The Third Reich was the greatest nation to ever exist.


f0f861 No.10399679

>>10399561

> Hitler didn't merely ape movements of the past, he created something new

His movement was based on old powers, you nitwit.

You know, the very same thing you're shilling against.

Hitler didn't invent the swastika, he didn't invent the runes, he didn't invent blood and soil.

He just brought it back, the opposite what you are trying to advocate for.

Filtered. I've got enough of your dumb shit.


e7facc No.10399710

File: 800d55b68fdb1de⋯.jpg (176.38 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, Aegishjalmur.jpg)

File: 802ee3c1a64719b⋯.png (66.88 KB, 1142x1024, 571:512, 1142px-Irminsul.png)

File: 31a962e72d71df1⋯.png (113.58 KB, 2000x2000, 1:1, valknut-rune-circle.png)

File: 038ea9a4587d830⋯.gif (4.87 KB, 180x184, 45:46, god-012.gif)

>not knowing the swastika is fucking magic if you're white

Posting my suggestions.


e7facc No.10399727

File: a45554fc75b4363⋯.png (739.49 KB, 894x894, 1:1, ulfhednar9867.png)

File: 79b21105ee037f8⋯.jpg (16.64 KB, 186x300, 31:50, 04043cc0c41bd54fc06887f70c….jpg)

File: 1e20b99b7ab5603⋯.jpg (59.97 KB, 570x321, 190:107, ulf9603.jpg)

These might be to autistic but I like them.


e1770a No.10399750

>>10399679

Holy shit, you are fucking stupid. Repurposing an ancient symbol for your movement is not the same thing as using the symbol of a nation that is considered infamous and evil to normie Americans. When Germans saw the Swastika, they didn't think of a movement from 70 years ago in another country that their ancestors went to war with, they thought of what the National Socialists were saying, they thought of the ideal.


19b2b0 No.10399753

>>10396394

>muh PR

The only way to destroy the communist world-eaters is to oppose them. The only opposition to communism is fascism/monarchism/nationalism.


f0f861 No.10399774

File: 5b39ecb25962215⋯.jpg (318.73 KB, 792x576, 11:8, 5b39ecb25962215a59681a07d2….jpg)

File: 9b78883f76dd86c⋯.jpg (283.61 KB, 645x816, 215:272, 9b78883f76dd86ce249285a1c7….jpg)

File: 5122ba424ca8feb⋯.jpg (175.37 KB, 618x852, 103:142, 5122ba424ca8feb8fa82efc9b5….jpg)

File: b6404eb37017c34⋯.jpg (424.98 KB, 1111x1600, 1111:1600, b6404eb37017c3429d4f831ee5….jpg)

File: 0bd6adb7309add9⋯.jpg (85.33 KB, 1032x774, 4:3, 0bd6adb7309add9ff11de84660….jpg)

>>10399710

>>10399727

There's nothing autistic about any of this.

Just because we live more modern lives doesn't mean any of this is larping.

Consider a boar cult for example, completely hypothetical boar cult.

They worshipped boars for hundreds of years and slid into a minority for a while, faith wise.

Then during this phase forests around them were thinned out too much for boars to really find a place to live.

However, the boar cult continues to stay where they are and still worship boars for their strength and cunning.

Are they larping? I don't think so. If the forests were still around in their more modern setting, then the boars would be there, too.

Also, be wary if Christians call it larping. They belong to a 2000 year old cult and worship its deity quite alright if you ask them.

There is no larp in native european faith, only forgetting and remembering.

Those who remember will be empowered, those who forget will lack the powers they could have otherwise.


d1c478 No.10399798

>>10399750

>oy vey why is this extremist right-wing website so extreme

You are completely missing the point, Moshe.

The point is normalizing the swastika, idolizing Hitler, and discrediting the Holocaust in order to force the Overton Window as far right as it will go. Leave the centrist fence-sitting to the normies.

the only reason I'm even bothering to write this is because there are legitimately hordes of newfags that don't realize this, and they're too stupid to figure it out on their own so they have to be spoonfed.


19b2b0 No.10399827

File: 7a5f75d378d535f⋯.jpg (199.93 KB, 800x600, 4:3, unite the right.jpg)


b84dd1 No.10399935

>>10396442

Learn how to sage nigger


50f1f1 No.10399950

File: 36be6c830359f66⋯.png (4.53 KB, 275x183, 275:183, images.png)

>>10399727

Rune of anscetral spiritual power, divine inheritance and earthly estate.

http://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/othala

Good symbol


1a39d8 No.10399988

>>10397199

As I've said, people aren't afraid of the Swastika because it is a symbol of "hate" and "intolerance" but because it is a symbol of FAILURE. In the final analysis, the Nazis lost. The Swastika reminds everyone of just how hard the Nazis lost. Anyone who waves that symbol around is a loser and a moron. Don't incorporate it into anything. Just create a new symbol that signifies victory. Change the American flag to red white and black or something.


1a39d8 No.10400002

File: b121ca0c329ff8d⋯.jpg (30.18 KB, 540x540, 1:1, yournewflag.jpg)

>>10399988

Here is inspiration. The American flag is victory. American are winners. We win everything we really want to. But we need to update it to show the new direction we're taking.


ccdde7 No.10400021

>>10396944

>powerful symbol

Even normalfags find it intriguingly attractive.

They say it's aesthetic and charming. Also the taboo factor is part of it.

Let people like PDP do their job, let us spread shit and do our best elsewhere, let normalfags post our hitler jokes and memes, then maybe next year we'll see 60,000 in the NS movement at this rally.

SIEG HEIL


ccdde7 No.10400043

File: 538a1d6958dda50⋯.jpg (176.11 KB, 1817x1416, 1817:1416, TETRA.jpg)

File: afbbeccb786c622⋯.png (12.73 KB, 500x500, 1:1, EagleTetsika.png)

>>10399988

God damnit Kek supports your argument. Beware of what you meme, Anon.

>Whynotboth.jpg


bfa58d No.10400045

>>10396394

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

That's NOT the goal you stupid cucked piece of shit.

WE ARE THE REAL RACISTS AND WE'RE PROUD OF IT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH RACISM


f4bdfb No.10400048

>>10397760

>>10397819

As I already explained here:

>If you're discussing your politics publicly, not just with individuals in private, you will be called a "Nazi" regardless of what you call yourself.

There is a difference between what you're doing, discussing politics one on one with individuals, and actually speaking to the public. If you try speaking to the public, the jews among the public will call you an ebil Natzee.

If you deny their accurate accusation, the general public will see right through you. They'll think you're weak and dishonest.


f4bdfb No.10400053

>>10400048

>>>10397760


0c2128 No.10400095

hmm


2c1fc3 No.10400097

>>10396394

I thought a fair few of them had to be media plants. The imagery is too print perfect to be fully homegrown.


916b45 No.10400124

>>10399950

I had a simliar thoughts. Runes look great and have meaning to european ancestry. However, i would use the colors of the current American flag.

>>10400048

Well, Trump is being accused every day and he made the media Kikes his little bitch constantly. It's not about denying and being on defense, i think it's more about how you make them eat their words when they try to discredit you while turning normies on your side. You can still speak truth while looking reasonable and being charismatic to normalfags, it's just counterproductive to act out the heiling ebil nazi cringe meme the kikes are trying to make you out to be.


975d21 No.10400125

can someone dump swastika pics please? I want to get some eggshell stickers printed with a big symmetrical swastika. Eggshell stickers are really difficult to remove.


1a39d8 No.10400154

>>10400048

>If you deny their accurate accusation, the general public will see right through you. They'll think you're weak and dishonest.

Amen. People don't want to follow weak leaders, they want leaders that FUCK.

People never really grow up; if a bully calls you a name at school and you run away from it and start crying then the entire class points at you and laughs and starts chanting the same insult, because they want to humiliate your weakness.

Democrats understand this perfectly. If they call you a Nazi and you run from it they keep calling you a Nazi. And get everyone else to join in. They say you're "on the wrong side of history" because no one wants to associate with a LOSER.

When you try to call people on the left "Nazis" or "the REAL racists" they just LOL at you and ignore it, they don't run away.


ccdde7 No.10400180

File: de5855ea1f46783⋯.jpg (340.32 KB, 1200x1453, 1200:1453, b553fea8cbea8ad5b298429aba….jpg)

File: c5d11f144bb6e57⋯.jpg (51.86 KB, 1023x522, 341:174, c5d11f144bb6e57c24efc3dc37….jpg)

File: cc8ffbaf6b584c1⋯.png (17.8 KB, 4000x2400, 5:3, Flag_of_the_German_Reich.png)

File: fd636c5c6aa2a76⋯.png (437.04 KB, 624x445, 624:445, HitlerFlag1-624x445.png)

File: a0b84eb8d787281⋯.png (45.13 KB, 2000x1200, 5:3, new swabia.png)


975d21 No.10400193

>>10400180

Thank you. Why is Flag_of_the_German_Reich off center? Was it originally like that?


f4bdfb No.10400204

File: 2a014359503f5ac⋯.png (7.4 KB, 1484x1904, 53:68, new cross.png)

>>10399164

For the record, I disapprove. But I took a shot at it anyway, for you. It's probably not lined up properly, because gimp is a hell of a drug. Using an Iron Cross is probably better if you want a Christian symbol that makes jewish skin crawl.

>>10399221

>Pythagoras was basically one of the first Freemasons,

More like Freemasons fancied themselves his successor. Of course Pythagoras had no notion of them whatsoever.

>>10400124

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when Trump denies being a 'Nazi', he probably isn't lying. But you would be.


ccdde7 No.10400221

>>10400193

Wilkommen.

>off centre

Yes have seen it this way video too. I believe it's made to hang vertical also.


f4bdfb No.10400249

>>10400193

As I understand it:

The national flag after 1935 was deliberately off-center. The party flag was perfectly centered.


f4bdfb No.10400278

File: 417ade4fff712c3⋯.png (1.79 MB, 10000x10000, 1:1, pol-politically-incorrect.png)

File: 3f72f851e830a9b⋯.jpg (27.85 KB, 426x599, 426:599, 50a486e412a96b65c7a84299e9….jpg)

File: c2ee9ba717f91e0⋯.jpg (13.62 KB, 261x218, 261:218, f35e02fcbba933f0f786d444fd….jpg)

File: 3b8f3f0e770a2f9⋯.png (202.86 KB, 970x811, 970:811, 67fd604a4f65c76508c4fc08a9….png)


975d21 No.10400293

>>10400221

When it is vertical is it rotated to the left or right? I'm going to assume its rotated to the right so that the swastika is in the higher portion of the half of the rectangle.


19b2b0 No.10400300

File: d7e6a117f23f9a2⋯.jpeg (62.15 KB, 600x327, 200:109, 101.jpeg)

>>10399988

>need the whole world to fight against one person

>barely win still

>"failure"


e63c37 No.10400314

>>10396434

I dont think you realize how fringe we are. Natsoc will never be a viable option again because of historical associations. This isnt something you can get around.


a58dfd No.10400330

File: 898f0f517aada9e⋯.jpg (194 KB, 1920x1010, 192:101, 29ff91fd0c268214e40ef5979c….jpg)

>>10400314

Wrong. We are citizens of the u.s. with a right to free speech.

If they try to take it away we will defend it with the second.


19b2b0 No.10400334

File: 8fed2f38be44b2d⋯.jpg (48.95 KB, 572x720, 143:180, 10423974_615843795200611_7….jpg)

>>10400314

<APPEAL TO AUTHORITY


908304 No.10400349

>>10397114

Where do you think all the memes and infograph images that get spread by normies on social media come from. This is a guerrilla war over people's minds against the MSM, we aren't supposed sit at the end of the redpill road twiddling our thumbs.

>>10397175

You are a tool for the Jews and anyone else that thinks that invoking any serious imagery related to Nazis and Hitler is also. Nazi imagery in this day any age only works in a funny or ironic context.

Come election time the media isn't going to be fooled again, they'll be writing about the memes that are spreading and link them to the Nazi stuff spread around here, and then Spencer will false flag some rally again to try sink Trump's reelection campaign.

Congrats useful idiots!


f0f861 No.10400352

>>10399988

>As I've said, people aren't afraid of the Swastika because it is a symbol of "hate" and "intolerance" but because it is a symbol of FAILURE

>losing a war means the symbols used in that war are a symbol of failure, especially when a tiny fucking country that fits in a thimble and had years of fucking weimar due to insane and unfathomable to modern minds sanctions put upon it

>>10400002

>American are winners

They lost WW2 ultimately and have become a laughing stock of the world, also Vietnam war.

So why are you posting a symbol of loss?

Because you're a blithering faggot, that's why.


984b98 No.10400355

File: cb7c76b82366245⋯.jpg (29.97 KB, 480x360, 4:3, hqdefault (1).jpg)

>>10400314

The black pill is strong with this one.


f0f861 No.10400362

>>10400349

>You are a tool for the Jews and anyone else that thinks that invoking any serious imagery related to Nazis and Hitler is also. Nazi imagery in this day any age only works in a funny or ironic context.

Gas yourself, too. Faggot.

I'm no tool of yours.


f4bdfb No.10400363

File: b1d4c370c68aad0⋯.webm (2.45 MB, 280x208, 35:26, for-the-coming-man.webm)

>>10400314

It is your duty to fight on against seemingly impossible odds. Even if victory is not realized in our lifetimes, we must keep the flame of truth alive.


ccdde7 No.10400365

File: a59fb4fe7f8b969⋯.jpg (841.2 KB, 964x1515, 964:1515, flags hanging courtyard.jpg)

File: 55430ff59d6476d⋯.jpg (117.92 KB, 540x540, 1:1, Young Hitley holding flag.jpg)

File: 85f67b21e42d7f2⋯.gif (1.76 MB, 506x284, 253:142, swastika flag.gif)

File: c38e8125dbe391d⋯.jpg (172.33 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, Flag bearers.jpg)

File: c38e8125dbe391d⋯.jpg (172.33 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, Flag bearers.jpg)

>>10400249

>>10400293

The above anon has it right I think.

Actually looked through TOTW and the vertical flags are much larger banners as in pic related.

Flags on the top are not vertical but hang down, this is what was confusing me and what I was thinking of.


a58dfd No.10400370

>>10400349

Perhaps we should just be honest. We are here, we are armed, and we are going to exterminate the kikes.

And there really isn't all that much that can be done to stop us.


f4bdfb No.10400383

>>10400355

Blackpill posting (Wehrkraftzersetzung) should really result in a 2-5 day ban. And asses and elbows should receive a lifetime ban.


e63c37 No.10400386

>>10400363

You got a long, perilous road ahead of you if you think you can overcome thousands of "le evil nawwtzeeeee" movies, docus, and school lessons the average person as been indoctrinated by. It would be much easier to keep the spirit alive but give it a cultural rebranding, rather then an attempted revival of historical imagery.


ccdde7 No.10400409

>>10400383

This

Fucking this.

Black pilling is just an increasingly common method of shilling. It's purely demoralization, a common propaganda technique in wars.

Love

>Wehrkraftzersetzung

Do you have a translation of each part? Trying to learn sprekken Deutsch. Thanks.


908304 No.10400429

File: 523a882eac38738⋯.jpeg (64.48 KB, 514x585, 514:585, CVVw8yMUwAE3H7c.jpglarge.jpeg)

>>10400363

That's a funny way to say we should fight stupider and not smarter. I wonder who could be behind this post.


916b45 No.10400457

>>10400363

>It is your duty to fight on against seemingly impossible odds

No, our duty is save the our race, and for that you need to win.


e63c37 No.10400471

>>10400383

Perhaps you should realize how political toxic the nazi image is. We can still follow the doctrine, and policy without having to wave those dead flags around like some autistic fucking retard who doesnt understand the importance of public image. If anything needs to be banned, its any fuckwad appearing at a rally waving that shit around.

(KIKE WAS GASSED FOR THIS POST)

19b2b0 No.10400481

File: b003826ef5689ef⋯.jpg (286.58 KB, 1000x773, 1000:773, 011413gluck_dngnk.jpg)


e5b5fd No.10400515

File: a7e415394d776f1⋯.png (760.81 KB, 900x1500, 3:5, swastika rockwell.png)

>>10396394

Alt-Right uses the Swastika and other NatSoc imagery to be edgy and collect a fanbase. But later they shit on actual National Socialism because they're all Jews.


e63c37 No.10400525

>>10400481

You're either extremely autistic or a kike attempting to make us look terrible for the media, but Im leaning towards autistic. Its ok anon, you'll understand public image eventually (hopefully)


19b2b0 No.10400539

File: 130978fec985ac7⋯.jpg (260.21 KB, 928x1476, 232:369, corneliu-codreanu-si-doamn….jpg)

>>10400525

>y-y-you're a-a-a-utistic


f0f861 No.10400556

Kill all concern trolling kikes who want to sell you anything less that the ultimate source of your power.


f0f861 No.10400571

>>10400560

Rockwell is still revered to this day, you limp wristed eunuch.


e5b5fd No.10400574

>>10400560

True..but is the message to blame or the presenter of it? Let's find out?

Can you name your critique against National Socialism?


19b2b0 No.10400576

File: 9174affad18ca40⋯.jpg (285.15 KB, 579x682, 579:682, Ben Shapiro Six Million Mo….jpg)

>>10400560


f4bdfb No.10400579

File: 32104b46b770d4e⋯.jpg (62.85 KB, 1039x914, 1039:914, whos behind this post.jpg)

>>10400386

>>10400471

>You got a long, perilous road ahead

Do you really think there is an easy and quick way to defeat the jews? Of course you don't, you're a concern trolling shill.


f4bdfb No.10400589

>>10400457

You cannot save the white race without defeating the jews. You cannot defeat the jews if the general public remains programmed by the jews.

Deprogramming the white masses is necessary to save them. Otherwise they'll continue to willfully walk right into the slaughterhouse.


e63c37 No.10400670

>>10400579

If anyones shilling for ZOG here, its the retards that are seriously suggesting flying the flag at political events. You might as well be broadcasting to everyone that you like touching little kids and expecting them to take you seriously after. You dense fuck.


916b45 No.10400707

>>10400589

>Deprogramming the white masses is necessary to save them.

Yes it is, i don't disagree. But will people heiling and hoisting swastikas lead them towards NatSoc, or rather along the already established anti-NatSoc kike narrative they've been contaminated with for decades? Think very hard about the outcome of your actions.

NatSoc must be brought to the public in a way they swallow it, not by playing along with Hollywood memes. It isn't about denying NatSoc or what we believe in, our ideology is what it is, however it's about making that ideology attractive to the outside. You don't defeat the jews by playing into their established narrative and make normalfags believe that kikes are correct about you.


e5b5fd No.10400721

File: 5b43d27b6d62731⋯.jpg (45.85 KB, 500x500, 1:1, swastika cube.jpg)

>>10400707

the only reason people associate legitimate natsoc symbols like the swastika with anything but nobility is the jewish lies surrounding them. easy enough solution: educate the people. why not educate them instead of capitulating to Jews and hiding our symbols?


6cf352 No.10400727

>>10396420

Not showing up at all and simply flyer information flyers whilst looking like a respectable human would be much better https://youtu.be/WgcngfETl_Y


6cf352 No.10400752

>>10400707

They are so programmed they recoil on hearing the word nazi http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/

>>10400727

ps, you only give them fuel, why dont they just go assassinate some of the ring leaders that organize the thing, they are fighting like a Napoleon era group whilst the opposite side is employing 21 century propaganda drowning out any voice opposing


916b45 No.10400756

>>10400721

Partly correct. Education must happen to those who can be educated, however everyone here should know about the Bell Curve at this point, and the majority of white people are simply mediocre IQ normalfags. That's sad but it's true, and in order to win these people over in a propaganda war, you need to make things attractive for them, and that won't happen through just education, but PR. We need them. Attacks must happen from all sides, for both PR and Non-PR redpills, from normies, to smart people to radicals, from education to memes. All of them need a NatSoc package according to their flavour, and it's our job to deliver it with a tip top taste.


f0f861 No.10400762

File: b6429d881e38b8e⋯.webm (7.91 MB, 640x360, 16:9, thejewproblem.webm)

>>10400707

>NatSoc must be brought to the public in a way they swallow it, not by playing along with Hollywood memes.

You are ruled by Hollywood.

Hollywood can produce anything and you will cuck, cuck.

The way to go is to show that Hollywood is wrong.

The way to go is to teach the world the audacity of the kikes to besmirch one of our most holy symbols.

The way to go is to become an insurmountable bulwark against the forces that want to diminish the radiance of our icon by even the tiniest iota.


e5b5fd No.10400775

>>10400756

Yeaaaaah no. That wastes too much time – trying to re-package NatSoc to everyone's individual taste. Let's just give everyone the full, naked truth and go from there? :)


f0f861 No.10400796

>>10400762

Any white country can do this.


f4bdfb No.10400838

>>10400707

If you allow jews to use the accusation of being a 'Nazi' against you, then you'll never get anywhere. We must strip the jews of that control word.

If you try to avoid the label, you're allowing the jews to keep using it against you. You're allowing them to always put you on the defensive with the accusation.


314d29 No.10400862

>>10396886

>>10396874

>>10396847

It has to be something that every white American can relate to


e5b5fd No.10400868

>>10400849

NatSoc was created for the world, not just Germany. The Swastika is the original symbol of the Aryan people. America will become communist and altright but you dont think we can make it NatSoc? Interesting...


d1f5a4 No.10400880

>>10396434

So much has to happen before it gets to that point.

You know how much society will have to decay to get there?


f0f861 No.10400884

>>10400849

Have you considered killing yourself? Why drag things out?


314d29 No.10400887

>>10396929

I'd say that's pretty limited


f0f861 No.10400897

>>10400868

You are talking to a walking corpse.

Italy and Japan weren't German, either.

And they went along for the ride.

The dead cannot listen and should go to sleep instead of walking the earth.


e7b6c0 No.10400921

File: 2701c6d5f3bd9b3⋯.png (773.86 KB, 769x771, 769:771, Ebola-chan plush.png)

>>10396847

To be fair, there have been billions of variations of the black sun and swastika throughout history, right? So why not at least come up with a new design? Just please don't unironically use a heil hoitler design just because of it being funny, actually make it look interesting and specifically relate to America in some way or another, or you're not being genuine about this movement like what Evola prescribed and are just going for mimicry without any real heart to it.


e5b5fd No.10400930

File: 8b6da72e24fcb0e⋯.png (120.87 KB, 1568x650, 784:325, new german order.PNG)

>>10400897

>mystical mumbo jumbo

not an argument.

National Socialism was designed to save the entire world from International Jewry: first Germany, then Europe and then elsewhere.

>pic related

The only argument against NatSoc is optics. The only reason NatSoc has bad optics is Jewish lie. Lies are easily destroyed with the truth. Bad optics are not a problem.


e5b5fd No.10400935

>>10400921

>So why not at least come up with a new design?

thats a good compromise


f0f861 No.10400949

>>10400921

The swastika as it was used in WW2 is the purest and had the most power, obviously.

Regain control of yourself.

>>10400930

>mumbo jumbo

There is no mumbo jumbo.

Your own control has been exorcised.

The normalfags control you.

The jews control you.

Hollywood controls you.

You are not a person anymore. You can only bend to the will of others.

A zombie that walks the earth and wants to spread your disease to others.

It stands to reason that you cannot stand the pure radiance of the sunburst, the swastika, the holy light that sears evil.


916b45 No.10400969

>>10400775

>Let's just give everyone the full, naked truth and go from there?

Exactly, only in a way where we think about how we present it to whom. No denying, no cucking, no lying and without changing NatSoc idelogy, but with a thought of "whom do i want to reach?". You don't change the core or the pill, just the outer shell to make them swallow it easier.

>>10400838

It's not about avoiding the NatSoc label, be a Nationalist and Patriot proudly. However, make it appear attractive. Everyone knows exactly what the "Right" is about, even normies know very well and many still are alright with it, but if you LARP it just puts them off hardcore. Americans should have long ago come up with their own symbol of Nationalism in the first place.


e5b5fd No.10400972

File: 2a77a4965122ad3⋯.mp4 (165.61 KB, 240x240, 1:1, fidget spinner swastika.mp4)

>>10400949

>The jews control you.

Jews control everything by lying.

So give the people the truth and destroy Jewish lie?

whats so hard about that?


d680e3 No.10400978

File: 99ff5dedf7d7e39⋯.jpg (199.14 KB, 1000x1483, 1000:1483, e7ce7d1b287c6343d949e873c2….jpg)

>>10400707

>NatSoc must be brought to the public in a way they swallow it, not by playing along with Hollywood memes.

Research The Third Wave. I'm going to make a thread about it sometime, but in a nutshell a highschool teacher was able to turn his classroom into high-performing, highly-engaged, and highly-motivated NatSoc-esque youth with the glorification of Discipline, Pride, and Unity within a week. It spread like wildfire, the Jewish students literally hated it on a visceral level enough to get their rabbi involved, and was only stopped because the teacher was frightened of his own creation. Naturally it has been taught in schools as a warning against 'fascism' for decades now, but if you read the original account there is nothing but good effects that come from it - effects that /pol/ talks about all along.

Anyway, that's the key to promoting /pol/ ideals - ignore the bullshit that pulls you into defending yourself and your ideas as 'not bad', but rather focus on the virtues and strengths of your efforts and by so doing you attract the admiration of the masses who are starving for inspiring leadership. It can be done with any symbol that captures the imagination, so the whole debate about whether to switch it out or not is moot when it comes to how to act as a noble and driven soul towards the betterment of your Nation.


e5b5fd No.10400981

>>10400969

>but with a thought of "whom do i want to reach?". You don't change the core or the pill, just the outer shell to make them swallow it easier.

sure im good with this. what are some of your ideas tho? i mean… we could spread natsoc to blacks by educating them about the jews' control over american slavery.. but who else?


e7b6c0 No.10400992

>>10400935

It's more than a compromise, it's evolution. Think of it this way, if you do a good enough job with it, the analogy to make here is that:

"Patriarchy" is to Goyimtavistock as the Swastika is to whatever new symbol is made. In other words, in the same way that "gamertavistock" got thrown around to the point where it became the new "patriarchy" in the minds of a variety of leftists, the symbol you make will become the new "swastika" in their minds, while making them even more ridiculous because normalfags can clearly see it as not being the same as the swastika.

>>10400949

You're being an autist, anon. Hitler decided on a symbol for his own movement, as you should yours. You need to evolve and transcend the swastika in order to truly make Uncle Hitler proud of you.


f4bdfb No.10401009

>>10400930

National Socialism is not simply anti-Jewish. It wasn't designed merely to defeat the jews, but to carry the German people forward in a time when there were no more jews to be defeated. In that respect, National Socialism was a system for germanic people.

White people in America are predominately Anglo-Saxon or straight up Germanic, with the plurality being Germanic. As such, an American National Socialism would have many similarities to German National Socialism, but it wouldn't be identical.


58089e No.10401013

> If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc

That wasn't the goal. That "the left are the real racist" shit doesn't work. It's boomer tier. It started out as a protest of removing the Lee statue and grew into a White Nationalist rally.

I'm of two minds on Nazi symbolism. On one hand I don't give a fuck what people think. The line has been drawn. The alt-lite, cucks, and normies will be forced to choose sides eventually. And they'll make their decision based on their personal character and intelligence. Shocking or offending them with swastikas gives me little concern. It's also something impossible to police at a public rally. On the other hand, this isn't the fucking 1930's. It seems a lot like LARPing. Even a stone cold National Socialist in America should get behind defining their own style, symbols, and brands. It also flies in the face of the movement. The third reich was Germanic in focus. An American movement shouldn't rely on century old German nationalist material. Be original. Stop aping them. In the end, it really comes down to what works. What advances the agenda. I personally don't think the Nazi stuff does. I don';t think it moves the Overton window. Maybe as shock and awe online. But at a rally that is supposed to show legitimacy and reason? It turns people off. It's too big a leap. You have to move the window slowly. I could be wrong. Doesn't really matter. Anyone who would object will be gone soon.


e7b6c0 No.10401022

>>10400992

The hell? "G a t e" is wordfiltered to "Tavistock"?


e5b5fd No.10401026

>>10400992

good strategy i think

>>10401009

>National Socialism was a system for germanic people.

Everything the Germans face we now face: poverty, rampant degeneracy, Jews and even ANTIFA. The kikes have re-created pre-Hitler Germany and we should take full advantage imo.

>American National Socialism would have many similarities to German National Socialism, but it wouldn't be identical.

what are some of the changes?


f4bdfb No.10401040

>>10400978

>Research The Third Wave. I'm going to make a thread about it sometime, but in a nutshell a highschool teacher was able to turn his classroom into high-performing, highly-engaged, and highly-motivated NatSoc-esque youth with the glorification of Discipline, Pride, and Unity within a week. It spread like wildfire, the Jewish students literally hated it on a visceral level enough to get their rabbi involved, and was only stopped because the teacher was frightened of his own creation.

And how did he stop it? He stopped it by pointing out how similar it was to National Socialism. The participants felt deceived, and quickly rejected it.

If you don't deprogram people, free them of the "Nazi" taboo, you allow the jews to stop any progress you've made dead in the water by pointing out that you're a 'Nazi'. As soon as they do, people will recognize that as the truth and abandon you. Unless they've been deprogrammed.

To make any meaningful progress, you need to disarm jewish anti-NatSoc memes.


f4bdfb No.10401073

>>10401026

>Everything the Germans face we now face: poverty, rampant degeneracy, Jews and even ANTIFA. The kikes have re-created pre-Hitler Germany and we should take full advantage imo.

I fully agree.

>>10401026

>what are some of the changes?

Well for one, all the industrial/economic stuff needs an overhaul. The impact of automation on labor must be addressed, the situation is bad now but it will be even worse in 15 and 50 years from now. Tech and the internet were unaddressed by 1930s National Socialism.

You also have distinctly American traits that need to be accounted for. America has more wilderness, it's people are accustomed to less government, far less central planning. These properties of the American people can't be caulked up to jewish influence, nor can they be written off as harmful traits requiring correction. They are natural consequences of America's geography and history as a frontier. American National Socialism would need to be mindful of these deep-seated wholly American traditions and inclinations. It would need to work with the American mentality, not against it.


f4bdfb No.10401082

>>10401073

>chalked up


916b45 No.10401144

>>10401040

Do both. Spread NatSoc ideologies like anon said and apply them while disarming jewish nati-natsoc propaganda step by step. It should have even more effect if they see the good effects before they even knew what it was about, or at least you can make them question everything easier afterwards. You can use gat eways as these that ultimately lead up to the jewish question sooner or later.


e5b5fd No.10401146

>>10401073

I see what you're saying. NatSoc needs an update, especially American NatSoc. That's fair permitted we aren't also reforming NatSoc or its basic tenets/structure.


8bbe73 No.10401381

I have no problem with the swastika, but I also see how it looks to normalfags. IRL is not the internet. There's a big difference between nazifrogs online and people waving 3rd reich flags IRL.

It's not because the message is wrong. It's just that it's fundamentally not american. We need to create our own symbols that are based in american traditional history. Something that we can fly without baggage that says "this is new, but still distinctly american". There have been plenty of fascist/nationalist movements, and they didn't all need to fixate on Hitler's aesthetics exclusively.

It's not "muh PR". It's just that we need something new for ourselves. We need to look forward rather than always dwelling in the past. I'm just at a loss for what our americana symbolism should be. The national socialists took the colors of the german reich's flag and turned it into something new that was still german. We need to do something like that ourselves.


03febc No.10401387

File: dc7d798a0c06944⋯.jpg (80.75 KB, 500x617, 500:617, b88d31b2387d79f332ae449790….jpg)

>>10400571

Revered by who though? The people who revere him in death are the same people that would revere him in life. His death didn't gain him any followers. Outside of far right circles he's literally unknown to most people, and the people that do know of him just think of him as 'that kooky neo-nazi guy.' A martyr becomes more powerful in death than in life, and GLR lost all of his power in death. His party splintered and his followers were pretty much powerless until the advent of the internet.

>>10400574

You're hitting the nail on the head right here as to what this thread (I think at least) was supposed to be about. The problem with natsoc isn't the message, the message is the closest to truth our people have ever been, at least in modern times. The problem is the presentation, and this is what I think OP was trying to tackle. It's still possible to keep the message of natsoc pure while changing the aesthetics and presentation to fit our time and place. Acting like you're in 1920s Germany isn't going to do much good in 2010s America, even if there are some parallels between the two.

The problem here is that people here are more focused on the means than the end, which is interesting as it’s more indicative of a fascist outlook than a natsoc outlook. For a fascist, the goal is not important, the means are. It doesn't matter who the fascist fights or what his people achieve, just that they do it with power and speed as a unified force.

>It is humiliating to remain with our hands folded while others write history. It matters little who wins. To make a people great it is necessary to send them to battle even if you have to kick them in the pants. That is what I shall do

-Benito Mussolini

This is a Nietzschean view of the world, one where the goal is not important. Take the Overman for example. What makes him special is not his goal, but rather the fact that he "overcomes" the human condition. The means of what he's done is the essence of his very existence. Remember what the Protocols say of Nietzsche, they name him outright as subversive and Judaic. The essence of natsoc is not how we accomplish our goal, not the means; the essence is that we accomplish our goal by whatever means we need.

>The organization is only a necessary evil. At best it is only a means of reaching certain ends. The worst happens when it becomes an end in itself

-Adolf Hitler

>Nietzsche’s Zarathustra. I immediately tried to absorb the entire work, but something about it struck me as alien. That was, as I realized later, the overly pathetic, even theatrical element which, to me, appeared willful rather than perfect.

-Alfred Rosenberg

Hitler was no Nietzschean. He was the philosophical disciple of Dietrich Eckhart, who himself was a disciple of Arthur Schopenhauer. Nietzschean fascists reach back to Rome and seek to make men the slaves of their spirits, which may be an improvement over the modern era where men have no spirits, but it’s inferior to Hitlerian natsoc. Hitler reached back even farther, to Aryan prehistory. We neither want man enslaved to spirit or man devoid of spirit, we need man to become one with spirit.

>Hitler is a spiritual vessel, a demi-divinity; even better, a myth… Mussolini is a man

-CG Jung

Don’t be a slave to symbols. The goal is more important than the means, if we succeed in liberating our people and conquering our (((foes)) then our actions will be lionized regardless of whether you toed the orthodox 1920s NSDAP party line or not. Do what needs to be done, do it with nobility and honor, but don’t forget why you’re doing it. There’s a legitimate criticism to be had of PR-fags, people who are more concerned with PR than actually accomplishing their goal. But using PR doesn’t make one a PR-fag. PR is a tool like any other, and it’s a tool we’ll have to use. If you think Hitler didn’t use PR, then you’re off your rocker and you need to do some more reading.


6cf2fb No.10401406

>>10401387

Nietzsche was a good friend with Zvi/Ginsberg, he idolised Marx, and one of his books includes the biggest "hoax" in time.


f114bb No.10401409

>>10397241

>our new symbol is Pepe

>using a fucking cartoon frog in real life like kekistani cancer

>don't use symbols like the swastika

>reddit spacing

Fucking kill yourself.


e5b5fd No.10401425

>>10401381

abandoning natsoc symbols is a slippery slope to abandoning natsoc ideology


916b45 No.10401461

>>10401425

It's not about abandonment, don't abandon it, but rather making an American one that Americans can connect with. I mean Japan and Italy didn't use German swastikas either.


f114bb No.10401476

>>10401425

When TRS first started shilling here its one of the first things they pushed. Trying to shit on Hitler and talk about how the swastika is bad. I'm not sure if its them again or reddit but this cancer needs to be driven out.

Unabashedly using the swastika is the quickest way to signal, "Yes I am a national socialist and yes I think jews are a problem." Trying to act like a bunch of kikes and fool people into thinking that we're not really national socialists or some bullshit is detestable and cowardly.


e5b5fd No.10401491

File: 605ee933cc1561f⋯.png (320.27 KB, 1919x1003, 1919:1003, american swastika.PNG)

>>10401461

>but rather making an American one that Americans can connect with

interesting approach. will do more research


6cf2fb No.10401492

go full

the anti-semantic

is your only final solution

to understand


6cf2fb No.10401504


f114bb No.10401510

>>10401461

There is nothing about modern America that I respect. It is an utterly diseased culture promoting degeneracy and weakness over moral fiber and strength. What do you actually respect about our society at this point?


ccdde7 No.10401542

File: 08aab618ee9270c⋯.mp4 (7.92 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Truth.mp4)

File: c3eded2181260e1⋯.webm (3.79 MB, 800x450, 16:9, dreamer.webm)

File: 201e9008a7c6fa0⋯.jpg (86.2 KB, 1267x715, 1267:715, National Socialists will e….jpg)

>>10400471

>concern trolling

Ever stopped to think that using that very flag gets people wondering WHY?

Why would someone throw away their public image, for the Bewegung?

Maybe because they believe in it so strongly and that there are so many lies about it, that's its really one of the only ways to get the point across?

To get people curious and looking.

And we have succeeded at that god damnit, with praise unto Kek, Tet and all the old gods for our successes so far. I have been protesting since early 9/11 days and have never seen such a ripe climate for national socialism.

I never thought we'd see what is happening today, in my wildest dreams but I never gave up fighting for it, regardless - Trump, pedos under attack, kikes under attack, a growing movement, large torch rallies and all this shit going down.

You are here. Now.

It is happening.

And National Socialists will ensure this.

>>10400515

This

It's also an amazing filter for those who are dedicated.


5ba3c2 No.10401564

If you want people to stop using swastikas, give them a symbol with greater resonance. Can't do that? Shut the fuck up and join those willing to raise a noble banner.


e5b5fd No.10401591


942865 No.10403828

File: b392725ea9f7d32⋯.jpg (167.55 KB, 894x894, 1:1, b4530de230cc7496cb8f35af03….jpg)

>>10396394

>strategic idea behind having the swastika armbands and nazi flags at the rally

Same reasons antifa flies commie banners and Trump supporters where MAGA hats. The fuck do you mean "strategic idea"? Do you have autism or something? It's the symbol of what we believe.

>If the goal is to show that the REAL racists are anti-white SJWs/BLM/Antifa/etc.

It isn't and never has been. You're fucking stupid.

> the media are hypocrites in their coverage, and the police (or at least the city politicians directing them) are on the side of the leftists,

Your just stating facts here. Your premise is correct but your conclusions reek of newfaggotry and you should lurk and think more before attempting to contribute to discussion.

>I don't believe that 100% of the people at the rally were unironic neo-nazis

They were unironically White Nationalists. They were fine (mostly young) men and women who were out there unashamedly speaking their thoughts and feelings. It was beautiful to watch while it lasted, before the commies and local government (((shut it down))). And yes, a lot of them were Nazis, or had Nazi sympathies, as they should because the Nazis were the good guys dipshit. Lurk more and figure that out.

>why did no one tell them… "I don't think this will help our cause."

No, it did help. There are more racially aware people in America than you think, and this huge show of force will embolden the previously quiet and afraid even more than recent events already have. Also, you don't have to be such a pushover and a faggot. You need to speak the truth, stand up for what you believe in, and make no apology for it. Because it's the right thing to do, and there is no other way towards victory. We won't accomplish anything if we attempt to be (((moderate))).

You are way too new to be posting. It's very clear to me that you started coming here this summer, and you're still trying to work things out. Lurk more, and maybe actually read Mein Kampf or some Julius Evola or some Nietzsche, like uncle /pol/ has been telling you to. Maybe then it will become more clear to you. I'd highly recommend "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" by Nietzsche for an understanding of the grave conflict we are currently in. We are the Over Men, or Ubermensch, and our opposition are the Last Men. READ NIGGA, READ!


be311e No.10404057

File: 197de5fbf290a14⋯.png (394.85 KB, 1767x807, 589:269, synthesis of spirit.PNG)

>>10401387

Well said.


be311e No.10404068

>>10401510

Then you will always lose as you will be unable to attract more people to your cause.

If you cannot be constructive, then leave. You are not doing anyone any good here.


8bbe73 No.10404109

>>10401476

I get that. That's not the "issue" I have with it. My critique is that national socialism was a specifically German thing. We need to "americanize" it. And that means having our own symbols based in american tradition and mythos. Tribal identity (ie, we're americans) is a separate issue from raw ideology.

I'm not saying "hide" our support of national socialism. I'm just saying we need our own aesthetic. I'm not saying I want to purge all traces because muh PR, I must stress.


7f249a No.10404113

Trump should force unemployed anti-far to work at migrant labor jobs along with the rest of the unemployed.


f4bdfb No.10404147

>>10404109

>We need to "americanize" it.

That's a discussion for another thread. In fact, we've had countless threads on that exact topic in the past several years.

If you think the Swastika isn't the best symbol for American National Socialism, then provide us with a better option. Until a better symbol comes along, we're going to continue using the best we've got.


29a5a7 No.10404151

honestly it's fucking easy to berate and belittle and shit all over other people, but it gets you no where in the real world. the way to advance your cause, your race, is to be better than them and people will look up to you and follow. you don't "win" by putting other people down, you WIN BIG LEAGUE by rising above it and making more money/ having more kids/ controlling politics etc etc. instead of telling gays and kikes to fuck off, walk the walk and fuck them up for real. man up or shut up.

people latch onto the swastika or make fun of fatties or whatever cuz it's easy, your beliefs may be accurate but it doesn't meant shit until you produce actual, practical results. don't cry about the game even if they cheat and it's bullshit, just win it. ya it's hard to win so fucking what, just do it


3f2b96 No.10404153

>>10400471

I could tell by your first post that you where a kike. You coward and cry thanks to the beautiful symbol that is the swastika.


5ba3c2 No.10404322

>>10404068

No who is attracted to the cause of Amercanism is a worthy ally. From its founding, this country has stood for ignoble, liberal values with a degenerative culture diverging from the heritage of European nations in service of masonic plots to support a new world order. The America we see today is exactly what was destined at its creation.

The only noble path is the path of European cultures.


95d676 No.10404601

>>10400021

You know the symbol itself is powerful because the kikes have spent all of their resources trying to demonize it.


000000 No.10404633

>>10396394

You are so fucking obviously from T_D it fucking hurts. This is not 4chan, go the fuck back.


95d676 No.10404650

File: 55655ac4f220455⋯.jpg (13.07 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 9a8c685721a7266e742e8bd935….jpg)

>>10399264

I'm liking this. Doesn't even immediately conjure up Hitler, but definitely still has the Swastika's impact.


95d676 No.10404672

>>10399267

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ3uv0yolhowlQyLX_S-V5w

Looks like some artist making up symbols for stuff. Polite sage because I've been flooding this generally shit-tier thread.


770c7b No.10404707

File: e93cdfd65b679da⋯.png (3.91 MB, 1114x9774, 557:4887, trs-shills-kike-lovers.png)

This whole thread is cancer, most people dont even realize the protest was against Jews removing white culture and statues of confederate heroes, as if its somehow racis.The tiki torch guys all surrounded the statue. Pay attention, Jews are playing you like a fiddle. Why does this anti-natsoc garbage even have 400 replies, use the report button and sage your posts. This is the exact same trs bullshit from months ago. Muh 88 hurts white people! Remember, /pol/ is a civic nationalist board and black people are based! Along with zionist jews, who will stop white genocide for us. amirite?


770c7b No.10404730

File: 5bb3180fb6fa64b⋯.jpg (94.95 KB, 850x400, 17:8, Rockwell-Rats.jpg)

File: 231c2150336da04⋯.png (649.1 KB, 871x1540, 871:1540, george-lincoln-rockwell2.png)

File: d296c3dc22c3534⋯.png (1.13 MB, 932x2169, 932:2169, George-Lincoln-Rockwell3.png)

File: 352c660b7337d79⋯.png (145.46 KB, 683x865, 683:865, Rockwell7.png)

File: 57e72fdcbe6280e⋯.jpg (72.9 KB, 850x400, 17:8, GLR-on-Revolution.jpg)

Also anyone who suggests National Socialists have anything to hide should be gassed. Theres people in this thread who suggest Rockwell was doing whites a disservice by organizing rallies and spreading the good word etc. Scum.


e3b5c8 No.10404794

It's been a full day, but:

>>10398427

>>10398767

>>10398827

>>10398840

>>10398951

>>10400045

>>10401013

>>10403828

As I repeated multiple times, I know I used bad phrasing. What I was trying to imply was not that racism is bad or that whites aren't racist.

I was trying to express the idea of waking average white people up to the fact that basically everything in their education and in the media that they watch is anti-white. That it is entirely acceptable to be anti-white. That the company they work for is probably anti-white, and the shows they watch are anti-white, and the people teaching their children are teaching them to hate themselves for being white.

How is this not the most obvious redpill vector for the average white person?

I'm trying to say that you can win a ton of people to the side of white acceptance, and then white pride, and eventually white nationalism by showing them these things - but as soon as you fly a Swastika, you trigger their indoctrination.

What is the goal? What are you actually fighting for?

Do you actually want to save the white race, or do we want to jerk off to an unironic belief in the magical power of a symbol while white people die out?


e3b5c8 No.10404815

Even from the political perspective of advancing NatSoc policy… does anyone actually believe they can build a political party around actual German NatSoc symbolism?

Do you think National Socialism could even work in a country as diverse as the US in its current state? Should the first goal not be to build a culture of non-degenerate white people who actually bother to have children and know enough to keep their kids from being indoctrinated against their own race?


b2bfcd No.10404910

File: dc0ec1523effa3f⋯.png (1.98 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1466180904151.png)

>>10399549

I like how emotional you get.

>>10400204

>More like Freemasons fancied themselves his successor. Of course Pythagoras had no notion of them whatsoever.

In the strict sense you're right, but at the same time he was apparently the first one who created a kind of secret society in Europe based on numerology and arcane grades. Of course it's kinda tenuous, but the Masons are not completely wrong in making him one of their ancestors I think.

>>10400352

>They lost WW2 ultimately

In he long run, this is unfortunately true, although no-one lost as hard as the Brits.

>>10400383

>Wehrkraftzersetzung

Indeed.

HEIL HITLER


bafd3e No.10405427

>>10397018

the eternal /x/ strikes again

>"why dont we adopt this symbol guys"

>implying there is a WE

>forcing memes and symbols unto /pol/

>im not versed in the occult I totally swear guys :^)

You'll hang on the DOTR, faggot


6ce1cc No.10406200

>>10397018

Ankhs and crosses make kikes butthurt, but nothing makes kikes butthurt like the hakenkreuz.


f0f861 No.10406279

>>10400992

> You're being an autist, anon. Hitler decided on a symbol for his own movement,

Wrong. He decided on a symbol that gives us immense power.

You're the autist if you think anything can top one of our most holy and powerful icons.

It's an incredible source of power.

What if spears had the same "connotation" as swastikas.

Would you say "well spears might be pretty much king of melee weapons but we should use whiffle bats, instead".

Why am I even arguing with you. You are scared of your own strength, only you are not.

Nobody would turn down a battery that supercharged them.

If you cannot handle the swastika then you belong in the group that gets seared by it's radiant light.

It is as simple as that.

You are at least partly corrupted and ruined. If you're white/of native European to begin with.

If you are, and you cannot embrace an *actual symbol of our power* then you're partway ruined.

Partway in the grave. You don't want the best for yourself or you kin. You want something watered down. You fear strength. You fear scaring away sheep, why?

Why don't you want to turn the sheep into wolves? Why do you want them to remain sheep?

Everybody could pick up the swastika in NatSoc Germany and enjoy its immense power. It was there, ready to be grasped.

From the lowest peasant to the highest echelon.

An engine that drove our people to the summit of existence, as much as it was possible for such a small nation and it's allies.

Whoever cucks for anything less for some shitty whipped up new age bullshit cannot be right in the head.


076749 No.10410210

>>10397692

Did you draw a dick on that pharaoh?


b2bfcd No.10419624

>>10405427

Yawn. You're boring.


000000 No.10426471

>>10400300

this dubs confirm it

Swastika is the supreme symbol




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