/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>>10399247

Had everything been peaceful, the media would have said the exact same shit. If both actions result in the same outcome, then what difference does it make in what we do?

>>10399225

3 people died? Source?

>>10399351

1 died in the car crash incident and the other 2 who died were the helicopter pilots who crashed though those deaths are unrelated, the media is including them in order to make us look worse

>>10399247

>fucking cringe

>le ebin reddit spacing

You'll die with the rest, faggot.

>hur larping nazi wtf why did you drive a car into protestors like wtf omg

The lesson you should be taking away is that if TRS and Richard Spencer want you to do something (like attend a rally) it's a fucking trap.

>>10399379

>though those deaths are unrelated

How the fuck did it even happen?

And how are people on the ground even at fault?

This is crazyland.

The attitude of this post is exactly why /pol is the only place I feel at home.

>>10399531

The real tragedy of this is that most lemmings are stupid enough to just read some Fuckbook blurb on it and not think twice, or at all really.

>>10399510

I agree. We need to look to George Lincoln Rockwell's example when he said that American National Socialism can not be the same as German National Socialism.

We must base our version in American culture so that it is relatable to all. Our enemies do this in spades by tirelessly citing the poem on the State of Liberty, 'give us your huddled masses, tired and poor...' as just one example.

We have the history and the stories to accomplish this. Yesterday's demonstration could haev focused on venerating General Lee for the great general and war hero he and his family were. We'd still be called racists, we'd still be attacked, etc, but our message would be more receptive to Americans as a whole.

Further, we can and should, compare the looks/aesthetics/outward appearance of the left and right. This should be harped on as often as possible.

Remember this video clip from a Trump rally during the primaries? You have ugly, vile leftists screaming obscenities at a normal, attractive, probably ex-military suburban white man and his children. This was a powerful scene when I first saw it. It would have the same impact on those who don't frequent places like 8ch and half-chan.

>>10399247

how many niggers fuck your mother per day on average?

>>10399510

Agreed 100%. Of course, you're going to get people calling you a PR cuck, but there's a difference between PR cuckery and not being tone deaf. We haven't rehabilitated the image of NS enough to be going out with anything but esoteric NS symbols without it backfiring. But we've been gaining ground and given a few more years of the same trend, we will be able to without the majority of people caring one way or the other.

>>10399247

>Ill stick to the real right, ones that are trying to be inclusive.

oops, you gave yourself away you colossal faggot.

take your poz back to whatever gayhole you crawled out of and kill yourself.

>>10399510

As much as I hate to say it, I think you are right. We need to raise a flag that is ours, not Hitler's or Lee's. Those are theirs, but we need something that is wholly ours. None of that kekistan bullshit either.

I'd like to explain what happened in terms of the factions involved. So on the left we had Soros and other (((financiers))) of antifa, along with the mayor setting this thing up. The police knew that this rally would gather opposition and stood back, allowing the antifags to attack UTR giving them justification to swoop in and deny the rally-goers their 1A rights.

Trump had the opportunity to respond, and if he were smart, he would have made the following point clear "I don't like these guys, but they had the right to protest, and breaking it up sends the wrong message". He didn't. His message ended up saying "I'm not in control, the federal government does not care about your rights." In doing so he has done exactly what the (((Globalists))) on the left want: get the right to fight the government.

The reason why they wan the right to fight the government is so that they do not have to rely on the left to do the fighting for them, because the left would be crushed if they tried. Trump played right into their hands, whether he intended to or not.

>>10399713

>lol it's still Trump's fault

He's one of the few not outright condemning "white supremacy" or "white nationalism"

The others refuse to even admit there is fault on the left.

It's like we haven't learned anything.

When we show up to a place a protest in person, niggers and commiecucks will show up too and incite violence that we'll be blamed for no matter what. Now couple that with KKK imagery and the swastika and normies who are brainwashed will believe dinosaur media and it'll make us look bad even though we're in the right.

That being said, this time I understand why people felt like they had to turn out for this. They're literally trying to erase our history but we need to be smarter about these things. We've gotta organize better when we do this. That being said, I feel like we make more gains just doing podcasts. And then there's the whole car thing. We get set up to be the media's punching bag when we do this shit. Imagine if everyone there did podcasts and dog piled in people in YouTube comments ect instead. We'd have consensus and could literally just drown out opposition out. That's what they did to us for the last 60 years. Think about it. It's not "muh PR" it's strategy.

Now, the fact that Trump didn't just immediately cuck is a good sign but let's not let it give us any false hope because this is only the beginning. We still have a lot of work to do and a long way to go. I'm gonna focus on my YouTube channel and keep converging with the rest of you here and in my humble opinion, whatever that's worth to you, you should all do the same until we see our next move open up.

>>10399807

It was a guy on facebook. I don't want to inadvertently DOX him

>>10399789

The issue with PR is that it's completely impractical. If you have 1000+ people, there's going to be one guy there with a nazi flag or whatever. And the media are going to focus entirely on that one person. And you're never going to be able to completley tone police a crowd of thousand(s) of people. You just have to deal with it and accept it. Real world action is required, because it demonstrates our size and projects power.

The CORRECT PR to have here is to never disavow anyone. The left has great PR because they never disavow. You never see them cucking and throwing those further left under the bus. You never see democrats tripping over themselves to disavow communists. That's the correct attitude to have.

>>10399826

Gotcha, I wasn't sure if that was from an article somewhere.

>>10399829

Correct. Never punch right.

>>10399829

I agree with you. But I still think we need to do SOMETHING differently somehow. I don't see this as a victory.

muh pr muh pr muh pr

as if you control the pr institutions

if only we ask the jews nicely they'll let us propagandize on their news channels about how we dont like them genociding us

>>10399855

Checked. This was a trap by alt-kikes, the media, the mayor, antifa - We are never going to get 'good PR'

You will always be labelled a nazi by being to the right of communists jews, they have been pushing this narrative for 50 fucking years

>>10399850

It is a victory. You're thinking 2D not 3D, (as much as the meme is overplayed).

Short term, this might look like it's bad, but it's not. Just trust me on this. The images of thousands of people with torches marching in the night is powerful, and it shows people that white nationalism is legitimate. Media narratives always crumble apart, but the optics of power-projection do not.

And you can't really complain about bad optics when the rally didn't even get to take place. Hard to have good optics when all you're doing is scrambling away in small groups away from hordes of antifa and CIA niggers. Point being that you can't plan for everything. Just roll with it.

>>10399881

The point I'm making is Rockwell would be killing the subhumans in the streets. He wouldn't be watching this country get browner day by day and fret about the idea of bad PR making it look bad.

>>10399855

The problem is we don't have a leader. No, that faggot Spencer is not a leader. A leader is needed in order to properly organized a paramilitary unit of stormtroopers around.

>>10399897

Because potential leaders are scared off by the FBI and 5-eyes lines of "everyone's a honeypot"

>>10399895

Rockwell understood PR. He knew that the only way to get attention was to jump into the wave, rather than try to swim away from it. He would never have gotten any recognition whatsoever if he didn't call it the American Nazi Party and walked around in armsleeves and brown shirts

>>10399907

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IgvLfH7vvI

You should listen more.

>>10399907

He explicitly explains that he's not making a political statement. He's building an army. Because the communists will kill us in the streets once they get the ability to do such. Like they did in Russia. Like they did in germany. Like they did in Poland.

>>10399789

>>>10399807

We'll be gassing you soon, jewboy

>>10399897

Not having a leader or leaders is what makes us so hard for our enemies to deal with.

>>10399928

There is not a victorious army in history without a general.

>>10399930

Fucking

THIS

No leadership makes us hard to pinpoint, yes, but having leadership enables us to move in unison.

>>10399247

>How about leaving the torches and Nazi signs at home

How about bringing good, proper torches next time instead of cheap storebought ones, and some proper banners too

>>10399927

Yeah, no. We'll be gassing unintelligent morons such as yourself trying to divide us for no reason. Not actual Aryans contributing intellectually to our cause. You should cut us off at the pass and drink bleach, that'll teach us.

>>10399933

Not that I'm saying a faceless insurgency isn't effective, but it won't stop the world from becoming a slave plantation for the Jews.

>>10399928

I agree. It's impossible to take down an anonymous decentralized group, in the same way that it's impossible to remove all traces of a pirated piece of media once it's been uploaded online. Believe me, I embrace it as much as the next anon.

I'm just saying that this has its downsides. And one of the downsides is that it's harder to have IRL organization that's not just a group of ragtag individuals. I'm not making a judgement call on which is better. I'm just saying that each system has its strengths and weaknesses. I personally think both systems can coexist, with each serving their strengths.

>>10399934

Are we really going to nitpick over the use of home depot tiki torches? That's the the dumbest and most pointless critique imaginable.

>>10399939

>>10399933

>>10399930

You make good points. Maybe there will be a time when a leader will be more effective than this but for now I feel like us being amorphous is part of what's keeping us going because our enemies have to discuss us in vague terms that make them sound paranoid and they never know who we are exactly, a neighbor, that guy walking down the street, the pizza guy. We could be anyone and anywhere at any time.

>>10399956

This is why I indoctrinate as many as I can with the teachings of rockwell and pierce. I hope the one with the brass is cultured in their words.

>>10399948

Listen, man, don't ever go to imageboard irl meetups.

Firstly, you'll get cum brownies.

Secondly, build a circle of redpilled friends around you, redpill your family, people you can trust. Don't look for redpilled people. Create them.

>>10399955

Think about it this way- if antifa were using tiki torches from lowes would you be mocking them?

>>10399972

If worst comes to worst just seek out covington. It's all we've really got.

>>10399907

GLR was from a time when he needed mass media to communicate with the masses. His strategy was correct for the time, but now it's antiquated. Making a circus out of ourselves undermines the points we bring, not strengthens them.

>>10399972

I never said anything about /pol/ meetups. And I agree on your tactics, because that's exactly what I'm doing. Meeting others online opens you up to fed infiltration. Better for now to redpill those close to you and form small tight-knit "cells" capable of operating independently but within a common "movement" (for lack of a better term) and with a common overall goal. This is actually very similar to how terrorists work, with independent al-qaeda cells working toward something similar. It's an effective strategy in our situation.

I'm just also saying that this has a downside of not having a "leader". That is all.

>>10399977

Leftists shat themselves all over twatter because of the torch march. It's probably why antifa needed to come in a shut it down

>>10399991

Defending yourself from violent communists is a circus to race traitors.

Or are you referring to the many hours-long lectures he gave at universities as "making a circus"?

>>10399977

No. Of all the things to attack/mock about, that's just retarded

>>10399247

I used to feel the same way when gamertavistock started. But I realized (the hard way), that no matter what you try and do, the media will just label their opponents all sorts of nasty things.

Look at all the "positive PR" things gamertavistock tried to do, and the media still writes articles calling them a bunch of evil women hating barbarians. And it's been what, almost 3 years now?

The vast majority of people don't believe what the mainstream media says. If they call us all Nazis, who the fuck cares? The only people who take MSM at face value are not the type of people who support Trump.

A country's media, no matter how much the host country loves freedom, is there to push agendas and manipulate public opinion. It doesn't matter if it's Chinese government state TV, CNN, NPR, BBC, or CBC. They have goals and politics and they'll do what they can to make sure that their beliefs win. The power that comes with being involved with large media attracts a lot of extremely bad people that aren't interested in the truth.

Media is already lying about this by trying to imply that the driver killed three people, when only one died and the other two were in an unrelated incident. That's flat out lying, and it should be used to spread FUD about how the media is reporting on this whole incident. If they're lying or manipulating facts against the rally, how can you actually trust them to be honest about the rest of the rally or the snowflake plow?

>>10399997

I'm referring to holding rallies in Natsoc regalia as making a circus.

>>10400008

It weeds out those who have no stomach for conflict, like yourself.

>>10400010

And the majority of the population. We don't need a conflict to win.

>>10400004

Exactly. The correct response should be to mock those who are REEing about nazis, because it's a classic case of boy-who-cried-wolf, and nobody gives a fuck anymore

>>10400012

You're a fool if you think cuckservatives will stand by your side in the race war they will invariably kick off once you've reached enough people with your hollowed-out message.

>>10399984

>hurr

>durr

>random muh dik image

>furfaggotry

>oy vey! dont join up with anyone outside of the imageboards. only imageboards are allowed to be pro-white where nobody will ever see us.

>dont make any impact on the real world, goy.

>>10400012

>We don't need a conflict to win.

Yes, we fucking do.

THEY BRING IT TO US.

You're just telling people to bury their heads in the sand.

>>10400017

Cuckservatives will be dead and buried or damn near close by the time we need to fight the Race War (on the most advantageous terms possible) if we play the long game instead of act like niggers.

>>10399510

Even putting aside the pragmatic concerns, adopting the imagery of another country's nationalism is wrong.

Why are American nationalists using German symbols?

Yanks need their own form of ethnic-national identity instead of the EVROPA shit.

>>10400025

>act like niggers

This is how a race traitor tries to convince whites to do nothing. Note how they excuse communist violence and claim that whites gathering in a place for a time is "acting like niggers".

>>10400029

You need to fuck off and never post on this board again.

>>10400005

As far as I'm aware actual torches are illegal in VA.

>>10400044

What is tactical about holding a rally where you inevitably get BTFOd by police?

I think what this has shown is that we are winning.

Trump has never been our guy. But he has been useful to help people find their voice again.

The consensus among the normies is that Trump wants to make America great again but the political class are stopping him.

His presidency has made the civil war more likely and liable to happen soon.

>>10400049

>What is tactical about holding a rally where you inevitably get BTFOd by police?

A lot of things if you're the jews organizing it

>>10400049

Consider how popular and well known antifa was 70 years ago, how popular/well known they are now, and what they've done to gain that popularity.

>>10400049

I hate to compare us to Emperor Nigger MLK, but he only got stronger whenever he was locked up in jail or his niggers had the hoses and dogs turned on them. Or hell, how about Uncle Adolf getting tossed in jail after the putsch?

Humans have an intrinsic sympathy toward the underdog. It's just how we work. Alinsky tactics are valid regardless of political ideology.

>>10400047

That's a shame.

>>10400067

>I think what this has shown is that we are winning.

>His presidency has made the civil war more likely and liable to happen soon.

Winning just by enabling a situation where there would be an apparent conflict to win? I suppose.

>>10399998

>>10399999

>>10400000

Who got them?

>>10400087

But there's nothing good about Spencer or any of the eceleb pack of faggots getting power. They promote based jews and kosher nationalism.

>>10399199

Stop lying you fag. Dude in a car was clearly fleeing the murderous mob. This was self defense, he was trying to save his life.

>>10399888

Powerful message powerful trips.

I think you might be right.

>>10400098

For us at this stage there is no peaceful solution.

We might be able to avoid a serious conflict but violence is inevitable.

In the case of the USA though? Extreme violence is inevitable.

>>10399510

This is true. Mostly. We should stop with the whole German aesthetic because it alienates people. The enemy will call us Nazis no matter what, so let's just be Nazis...but we need to be Nazis with an American flavor. America is not 1920s Germany, we are swarmed with skitskins and there are more commies and Jews within our borders than there were back then (surprisingly). Even the German government of the era wasn't as jewed compared to our modern American one. Point is, if we're going to go public with National Socialism in America it needs a Nationalist flavor. The German flavor of German NatSoc worked because Hitler was doing his thing in Germany, it appealed to the nationalist sentiments of the people. This guy >>10399618 mentions it, we should bring back the words of Rockwell, talk about Rockwell and clean up his image. Rockwell is the key to a white American future, not Hitler. What I mean by that is we learn from and be inspired by Hitler, like Rockwell was, read Mein Kampf and listen to his words, but we need to utilize Rockwell's Nazi Party in the United States, because he knew that we needed to Americanize our National Socialism. Rockwell also doesn't have the whole "MUH SIX GORILLION" tied to his legacy like Hitler does. Rockwell has never been accused of genocide, so we can make a new figure out of him. He was assassinated, we can make a martyr out of Rockwell, there is more we can do with him.

Bottom line: We need an American Nazi Party resurgence, and Rockwell needs to be memed into relevance again. Most Americans don't even know who he is, so he doesn't have the "Big ebul stoopid jew-killing" label Hitler has, meaning we can be the ones to teach people about him. We have combined our autism before, but it was for minor things, now we have to do something more major.

>>10399379

communists are not "people". cops in the chopper were downed by a BLM sniper, confirmed.

>>10400107

I hate Implicit Dick as much as the next guy. It's not about him. In fact, the fact that he didn't actually get to speak makes it a win-win. He's only "good" in that he's just a symbol to normal fags of WNism. The guy himself is a retarded nazbol huckster who only cares about namebrand recognition.

>>10400087

>Humans have an intrinsic sympathy toward the underdog. It's just how we work.

I'm not sure I buy that in this situation. You think Rockwell got that much sympathy?

>>10400042

Ok Yankee

>>10400120

Rockwell was doing pretty good until he got MOSSAD'd. It was only after his death that "WN 1.0" fell apart

>>10400138

Fair enough, although that second point would undermine the argument for the benefits of having a leader. Can't cut the head off a snake if it doesn't have a head.

I normally don't care that much about PR, but the nazi thing is a trap. American History X did the same kind of bullshit. They took reasonable arguments against things like illegal immigration, and then show the guy making a decent argument curb stomping niggers, being a nazi, etc.

The whole thing is a trap. They want to equate being against open borders, being proud of your heritage, etc as a nazi thing. Realistically, not wanting open borders is easily a moderate viewpoint, there's probably a few people a bit on the left side that don't want open borders.

It's a common trick, you take someone you want to discredit, let them make some decent arguments, then viciously attack them and correlate them to something most people think is awful in an effort to make those decent arguments be correlated with groups that most people don't like.

>>10400087

>I hate to compare us to Emperor Nigger MLK, but he only got stronger whenever he was locked up in jail or his niggers had the hoses and dogs turned on them.

MLK was an (((asset))). Nothing about his activism was legitimate and the only reason he "succeeded" is because he had the full force of the jews behind him. If you try his brand of activism then you'll just stay in jail and nobody will know or care, because it doesn't work without Schlomo pulling the strings for you.

>>10400156

You're absolutely right, but being leaderless also has its drawbacks. I think the proper step forward should be a synthesis of the two ideas, where the main body is decentralized and anonymous, but there are still groups of non-faggots (spencer is shit) organizing IRL strictly as a paramilitary organization or something

>>10399618

This is completely true, and yet everytime it is brought up some spergs pop up and shout

> MUH PR!!!!!

If you want to have a brighter future in the states, you've got to drop the associations people have been taught since birth to associate with negativity. It'd be like running for public office in a Klan outfit, no matter how good your ideas are, you're going to get < 10 votes.

>>10399829

The idea that large "peaceful" portests are effective is nonsense. It is the political equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. It has no effect other than to turn normies against the side doing the protesting. I believe 95%+ of these are drummed up by intelligence agents for one of a few dozen different interests. This one was certainly deep state CIAniggers trying to defuse white nationalism.

Stop being useful idiots and showing up to gunfights without your rifle.

>>10400186

The point is, respect Hitler, and move towards actual national socialism, move towards gassing all kikes. Just don't outwardly show it, until you have the power to actually do it.

>>10400029

>Why are American nationalists using German symbols?

because there are millions of people with germanic heritage in america

>>10400166

I agree in the sense that MLK had an easier time when the kikes were propping him up every step in the way, just like with Trayvon, Mike Brown, etc. But that's really just indicative of how we have an uphill battle. The CONCEPT that being kicked down by the establishment does make more people sympathetic to you is still valid. It's just that we're on our own and it's up to us to meme it and make people see it our way, rather than just having ZOG do all the work at the snap of their fingers.

>>10400191

I don't think we're at that point yet. I hope one day soon, but we have to start with "peaceful protests" in order to demonstrate that we're nominally willing to settle things reasonably before jumping straight toward physical violence.

>>10400199

Most people using it aren't though and the one's that are are almost all 1/2 or 1/4 hybrids. Even if they are, what's the point? They're not Germans. They're not going to consitute a German state in America. Americans need their own nationalism instead of 'muh heritage' nationalism

>>10400113

I think dropping some of their symbols would be a benefit, but some of their lesser known values would be good to push. I'm talking about their reverence for nature, and a more traditional lifestyle. Things that your average, dumbass normie can grasp as being noble. Then we gas the kikes race war now.

>>10400199

it's not even a "german" symbol.

>>10399510

>al

>>10399510

>We are better than these reprobate communists, and we need to act like it. The future of our race is in our hands.

- Czar Nicholas II and his children were too.

- The French monarchy was too.

- <insert every other regime crushed by (((them)))>

The graveyards are full of people who stood on principle. Until we control the narrative, nothing is off the table.

>>10400113

>>10399618

Video related was a pretty good intro when I started looking at Rockwell and his stances. He breaks down National Socialism to its essence pretty well. His book, White Power, is also good and I've been reading it. To be honest, Rockwell is also good for sorting between the retards who think white nationalism is supremacy and is only about genocide, rather than refining yourself and your race and that every race should determine their own destiny. Which points out Jews are the complete opposite, promoting destruction of these values and usurping nations and people of their sovereignty.

>>10399247

There is absolutely zero fucking guarantee some leftist and/or journowhore won't simply infiltrate such a event, unfurl a Swastika flag and throw a Sieg Heil at a moment that would be "bad PR" None.

>>10400186

>If you want to have a brighter future in the states, you've got to drop the associations people have been taught since birth to associate with negativity.

This is called letting your enemy set the terms. Should we proclaim that leftists are the real racists next? The winning move is to give people a positive association with nazis and le ebil skinheads, the idea of which scares the jews shitless.

>>10400257

Rockwell had a chance to bring White america to the crucible of truth. If rockwell's america was 60% white he wouldn't be advocating anything less than a civil war. Pierce realized this.

>>10400262

Dude looks completely unphased by it.

>>10400262

He hit him in the neck.

what a failure.

It's an important to also note that VA clearly has kiked and deepstate police.

>>10400284

Obviously since it's the home of the JTRIG and global intelligence

>>10400227

There is no nationalism other than one's heritage. America must be dissolved into many European colonies which re-establish ties with the mother countries. "Whiteness" is a false concept, there is only European heritage. The ideals and history which underlie America itself are ignoble and progressive, thus any American nationalism is folly.

>>10399287

>>10399311

>>10399421

> The Media will say we're retarded anyway, so better act like retards !

I can't believe people think acting like unironic nazis and kkk is an effective tactic still exist. Everytime there is a right wing event, the (((media))) is drooling at the idea that some fucking idiot will show up dressed as hitler and beat up some kid, and every fucking time there's some moron to do it. And you guys think it's all fine and dandy! You see leftist tactics and say 'let's do the same', but the left owns the media. We don't. It's not fair, deal with it.

>>10400132

>do nothing just hide and never go outside goyim

>>10400269

>This is called letting your enemy set the terms. Should we proclaim that leftists are the real racists next? The winning move is to give people a positive association with nazis and le ebil skinheads, the idea of which scares the jews shitless.

How hard is it to draw the nazi line at the actual nazis ?

>>10400306

>If you don't walk into alt-kike traps set by its anti-white leadership and get ensnared then you're just staying inside and doing nothing, goyim

Your rhetoric is weak, yid.

>>10400297

>America must be dissolved into many European colonies which re-establish ties with the mother countries

Mind your own fucking business Eurokike.

>>10400297

But given that almost all white americans aren't from one European backgorudn, what happens them?

>The ideals and history which underlie America itself are ignoble and progressive, thus any American nationalism is folly.

Don't fall for jewish lies

>>10400301

Okay, so next time everyone acts like well-groomed Jehovah Witness' and plays nice. The media will say and do the exact same shit as if everyone was goosestepping in jackboots and lynching anyone darker than milk.

So, what should we be doing then?

>>10400327

>hurr durr everyone is a jew

get over yourself you coward and do something for once

>>10400315

> Imagine an (((infiltrator))) waving a swastika flag at a right wing rally

motherfucker, you dont even want those rallies to happen, because everything is an alt-kike "set up" remember? get the hell outta here.

>>10400310

Remind me again, was this written before or after Americans firebombed the Reich out of existence and stationed niggers as an occupying force to rape the Germans whose homes they stole to turn over to kikes?

Beyond which, that passage refers to a European ethnicity within America as the source of superiority. You are bolstering my argument, not providing any sort of counter.

>>10400344

Pick one of your bloodlines and move to that colony, then enter into a long term eugenics project to move the colony closer to purity, eventually assisted by genetic engineering technology. High purity individuals would have the option of moving to the mother country as well.

American ideals are progressive trash. The revolution was begun by masonic blackguards seeking personal power through rejecting the proper authority of the monarchy. The liberty which is so valued is a false virtue and should tip you off to the liberal nature of all American political theories.

The only hope for Americans is to shed that identity and become Europeans. There is nothing noble in Americanism.

>>10400415

Hitler wished to free whites from the yoke of Jewish terrorism no matter where they lived.

>>10400415

>pick one of your bloodlines

I'm not an American mut. Stop larping and just accpet that you're a yank. Why would Europeans want millions of americans fmoving back? Just accept what you are ffs.

Appying that logic, Germany should break apart in various distinct states, as should France, Britain etc.

>>10400442

You posted this in another thread.

Word for word.

This is clearly a shill.

>>10400389

Perhaps he's letting us know that the Chinese government is willing to finance us since they know a nuclear armed nigger country is more of a danger to them than a nuclear armed white country.

>>10400389

>what did he mean by this? will china become the next honorary aryans?

No he is insinuating that the Chinese could do to the US what the US did to Ukraine and elsewhere. Arm radical and extremist elements to destabilize the country.

>>10399928

/pol/ is really the centre of our ideological development and as such should always be an anonymous, formless mass of people. However for IRL purposes leadership is vital to actually get more than a dozen people anywhere at once. It doesn't matter if we have 50,000 /pol/acks when they can't be mustered as an effective group.

>>10400448

I copied my post and replied here because I seriously think that's what should happen. Spencer is a psy op leading sheep astray. I really hope you don't think Spencer is actually genuine in action a and motive.

>>10400470

that is what we want though isn't it? why china and not russia?

>>10400440

I guess I'll just stop LARPing and firebomb Europe again because I have no connection to it. Thanks for the wonderful advice.

It is exactly because I am a mongrel that I know we should not allow such a country as ours to continue existing. For as long as the United States exists rather than European colonies in America, we will go further and further astray. Genetically and culturally, the US is a dead end.

>>10400486

We don't want to be used to fight a proxy war, that's for sure.

>>10400483

This shit is bigger than Spencer.

The fact that you keep trying to focus on him tells me enough.

>>10400518

>This shit is bigger than Spencer so don't point out how Spencer is an anti-white fraud

wew

>>10400496

>oy vey, don't do anything goyim

fuck off kike

>>10400277

Looks like that guy hits like a bitch. I remember this kid in junior high that punched me in the face one time and i just laughed

>>10400496

what was the trap, the fact that there was opposition?

you truly are a sniveling coward that does nothing but bitch about others actually taking action.

>>10400531

>If you don't fall for the alt-kike meme and let yourself be trapped by it's ZONIST LEADERS then you aren't doing anything for the Aryan cause, goy!

lelelel

Weak sophistry is still weak the second time around, you know.

>>10400483

For events like this, Spencer is completely irrelevant. It's not a conference wherein he gets to advance anti-racialist, Dugin-aligned ideas. He was completely overshadowed by men waving flags which represent the correct ideals, which is what the media itself is trained to focus on as well. What you should be wanting to happen are more rallies where the swastika is held aloft over the light of torch flames. The more this happens, the closer people will come to throwing Spencer to the wayside because he fails to show the correct values.

>>10400415

>reddit spacing

>>10400578

>attack vehicle

>get ran over

>WOWWW THIS IS WHITE TERRORISM

Meanwhile somolian ran over people in ohio and it wasn't called islamic nigger terrorism, really makes you think

>>10400582

It just makes me think there needs to be a higher body count next time.

>>10400578

>if you kill your enemy they win

what was the trap you absolute faggot

of course all the political whores are going to bitch and moan like you

>>10400592

>The alt-kike gets transformed into a white supremacist domestic terrorist organization overnight after a crypto-jew activates it into a crowd of leftists

>WHAT'S THE TRAP THO?

You're bad at this

>>10400619

are you seriously afraid of the kikes smearing you in the media?

>>10400555

Ok Schlomo, what do you suggest we actually do?

>>10400654

>are you seriously afraid of the kikes smearing you in the media?

>media

You know anti-terrorism laws exist, right? If the alt-kike gets legally declared a domestic terrorist group then anybody foolish enough to fall for the alt-meme is going to face problems are considerably worse than being smeared in the media.

>>10400658

>Ok Schlomo, what do you suggest we actually do?

I think don't attend literal traps masquerading as rallies setup by anti-white zonists is a good place to start :^)

>>10400706

>do nothing because the jews will over react

the jews wont relinquish power peacefully and if you aren't willing to fight then you have no right to exist in this world

>>10400596

>Anyone associating with the ecelebs involved in planning this farce are to be considered commie kike shills and denounced.

An eceleb has been reduced to "someone who makes videos and isn't anonymous" now, so that could mean ANYONE who wants to do anything, anywhere.

Why do you want everyone to be exclusively on the internet?

The people who showed up didnt show up to support spencer, they showed up to defend history, they showed up for white people.

You trying to make this all about Spencer is very telling. It has been bigger than him or any other "eceleb" for months now.

You're not getting the genie back in the bottle, kike.

>>10400778

Ah, so there is a bright side to this mess. I feel a bit better with that in mind.

>>10400782

I don't know but I hope not

>>10400760

>Oy vey goyim, if you aren't labeled a domestic terrorist group and shut down by the government then you aren't doing anything!

>The real way to advance your cause is to fall for all the traps (((we))) set for you!

>LIsten to Dicky Spencer, Kike Enoch, Cernobitch, and whatever jewess we choose to be your "aryan" waifu

lol

>>10400782

It's not a photoshop

it is though

>>10400831

If you aren't willing to go to jail by appearing at rallies and holding our symbols aloft, just kill yourself now. You're waiting for a time that will never come except by the sacrifice of others. Everyone arguing in the manner you argue is advocating for nothing. You want nothing to happen, instead of men gathering in the name of White nationalism.

>>10400831

Fuck off hasbarafag, go kill yourself already

>>10400553

The mayor suddenly switching protest locations, declaring an emergency while telling police to stand down when protesters were told to leave, keeping the police on stand down when more antifa took the streets, which lead to negligence and an accident. There's been a civil suit filed against the city for this. BIG if stands up in court.

>>10400876

>$$\color{red}{The Most Important Take Away}$$

you have to go back

>>10400869

>IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO GO TO PRISON BY ATTENDING ALT-KIKE HONEYPOTS RUN BY JEWS THEN YOU AREN'T A REAL NAZI

lol oh fuck my sides can't take much more of this please stop

>>10400879

>Fuck off hasbarafag, go kill yourself already

Because hasbara-fag would be telling people not to walk into zionists traps, right? lel

>>10399311

They accuse us of the very shit they do, it's time to mcveigh some media buildings.

>>10400931

>Because hasbara-fag would be telling people not to walk

they want everyone to chicken shit to do anything for fear of reprisal like you. inaction is death and that is all you preach

>>10400778

I'm talking to /pol/ and referenced previous threads but you take my post out of context and accuse me of being a kike and imply I meant some shit. Nice one but seen it.

It's about way more than Dickie, it's his Dugin connected wife and the fact that Dugin is being pushed hard rn by many others, it's about Kikeovich and his tranny whoring B'nai B'rith wife singing oven songs for xmas, it's about Grindr Greg, pedo Ghoul, 7thMeth, all these jokers that have been shilling here and pushing each others podcasts for years. All these people are ecelebs because they are famous for nothing but shitty podcasts funded by their CIAnigger sugar daddies.

>>10399199

>The night before false reports were made by Antifa/BLL members in attempts to cause police to intervene. They fled. The police arrived, determined the demonstrators were operating within the law.

Is this a typo of BLM, or is BLL something different? Because I genuinely do not know what BLL refers to, and searching for it doesn't bring up anything.

>>10399702

>>10401001

Hitler's 3rd reich flag was a synthesis of old and new. It had the swastika, but it still used the traditional colors of the german reich. It was distinctly german.

Likewise, whatever flag/symbol/whatever we use should be distinctly american. WE have plenty of american symbols. We just have to figure out a way to synthesize something of our own, rather than picking the symbols of unrelated groups that we connect with ideologically. That's not enough. It needs to be something that is intrinsically AMERICAN. Something that's red, white, and blue, includes some variation of the stars and stripes, etc.

I think it's important to note that the pretense is gone. People now know that its Anti-White vs Pro-White and it should be referred to as such.

>>10400229

I agree with that, nature, family and traditionalism can be pushed without even having to be tied to National Socialism. Meaning we can push it with our movement and normies can push it with their CivNat shit. Sort of a tavistockway.

We need to organize, though. Someone on another Charlottesville thread talked about making a redpilled manifesto, but not calling it that. I forget what the anons decided to call it. The anon who devised the idea did not want to write it because he said he wasn't a good writer. Making an anonymous redpill book would be a great first step. We could make two which basically say the same thing, but one is fully redpilled, while the other is a bit lighter (say elites instead of Jews) which would ease people into things, make them want more and then pick up the more 14/88 one. One book is 14/88, the other 14. Both would outline the need for whites to exist within their countries, highlight white genocide and name the specific people behind the whole thing (like George Soros and his many, many connections). To disguise the writing style of the author, we could have other people rewrite it in similar language but covering up the specific ways the original author wrote, so that the book cannot be traced back.

Basic idea is, that manifesto idea is a great start.

>>10401100

Interesting idea; perhaps have it done on google docs (or some other form of document where people can edit together). It could even be done in a style similar to the bible, in that there could be multiple books with different stories, writing styles, and redpills being dropped. First books are the more "kosher sterilized" versions, and the heavier redpills in later books.

>>10400965

>they want everyone to chicken shit to do anything for fear of reprisal like you. inaction is death and that is all you preach

See, kike, this is why your subversion never works. Here I am simply saying not to walk into a literal traps set for us by anti-white zionists, but you're saying that we have to walk into traps set for us by anti-white zionists in order to get anything done. Sad!

>>10401023

note - a better word for "people resources" is human capital. Use that instead

>>10401100

>>10401180

I agree with all of this. I would contribute, although I have no way to get it to anybody. I'm not putting any of my info on here.

>>10401180

>>10401239

I want to write commercially, so I don't want my writing style being recognized. But I agree with the google doc idea, we set up burner accounts or something and go from there. I wrote a lot of notes down because I was planning to do the lighter, 14 no 88 one I mentioned anyways, but I think a collaborative effort is better. We need to organize, white people are getting angry. Point them in the right direction and we'll get there. I can drop my admittedly rather disorganized notes here if you would be interested.

>>10401388(checked, but so close, yet so far)

What about this discord I'm always seeing? I never looked into it, because I have so many IRL hobbies that keep me busy. But a buddy of mine described it to me as being (the way I took it) similar to that old IRC bidness

>>10401192

>still no proof of trap

>more baseless accusations

just accuse anyone who doesn't fall for your crippling paranoia a jew, i'm sure that will bring about the 4rth reich

>>10400122

>>10399896

>Donald Trump is Jewish

>the Aut-Right is heroes

Go the fuck back to r/the_donald and stay there, you fucking faggot.

/pol/!=alt-right

>>10401863

I was thinking that. I actually think Trump handled this whole thing well: condemned the violence, but did not renounce white nationalism when asked. Take him out of that and change the alt-right flag in the pic to something else.

>>10401872

I think you're still not getting it. Mike Enoch is a fucking Kike, and fuck Richard "homosexuality is European culture" Spencer. That "OC" was created by a typical reddit/goon infiltrator faggot who jerks off over "tomi lahren" and "based niggers." Whoever posted that, whoever made it, and whoever agrees with it will hang.

>>10401519

>The organizers of the alt-kike rally were anti-white yids and zionist good goys

>An event just happened to occur that will most likely get the attendees legally categorized as a domestic terrorists

>The driver of the car is a cryptokike

>A primary witness is CIA

>still no proof of trap

Ha ha, oh jew

>>10401904

I get all of that. Which is why I believed they should change the German flag for the Alt-Right because they're not NatSoc and shouldn't be compared to them.

>>10401180

>>10401239

If we are to draft a manifesto, an ultimate redpill series, we would need utmost secrecy. Our ideas must be known and spread but the writers cannot let their names be known, unless we are to be hit by Mossad.

>>10399199

>The purpose of the event was to respond to the destruction of monuments to civil war heroes who had fought northern aggression.

No, the main purpose was to promote the brands of Richard Spencer and Mike Peinovich. Fortunately, it failed in that aspect.

>>10400985

I still want to know what the fuck "BLL" is. Searching for it just brings up some alt-right twitter accounts and some bullshit by that kike Bill Mayer.

>>10399956

It's not that we lack a leader in so much that a leader worth following has not yet appeared. It's no good making Kike Enoch or Homospencer into a leader when they're so week. As the movement grows more men will be willing to lead, will learn the skills to lead and one will become the stand out leader.

>>10399980

I'm torn on Covington. I don't like that he begs for money constantly, but he seems serious.

My largest concern is that he's broadcasting where he is. If shit goes down then people know where to find him

>>10402044 (again)

But we need a spot to coherently organize this. Have to be able to bounce ideas off of each other. Hell, I'm not the most eloquent penman, myself. So there's a need to be a spot to brainstorm to deliver the most effectively, yet succinct "manifesto"

>>10402614

I would be willing to make a thread, but my thinking is that there is so much going on we might have to wait a bit. /Pol/ is probably the best place to organize and brainstorm, everyone posts their thoughts and what we should include, and then we set out to work. Google is pozzed, so we might need something like a google doc that isn't google.

>>10402640

For what purpose is this document? Whats your objective? If you're wanting to mass spread it you would be better off making it a flier so people can print it and hand it out or leave it for people to find.

A document you're talking about would simply get passed around like minded people, which is fine if it's useful and by useful I mean helps the race war. Has to teach about blood and soil, has to teach how to use both of these and not just scream "muh niggers". Teach people to grow food, to train, to be better men.

>>10401100

Double checked.

I believe anon suggested calling it an "open letter."

>>10402454

Well said and a great start.

Sup TRS? So your movement is turning to shit because your leadership is shit. Are there any of you left who aren't purposely trying to make white nationalism look stupid and dangerous? Why don't you kick out Spencer.. and let's talk about a new approach? Remember when you guise did the echo thing and everyone loved you? We could do that again. Or can just keep being irrelevant faggots no one cares about…

besides: you always complain about PR problems, and well, this is a PR problem that wont blow over. your shekels will dry up if you dont do something…

new rules

When /pol/acks go to these meetings bring a round shield and some sort of long stick along with a pocket knife and some duct tape.

Should things get violent, whilst retreating duct tape knife to tip of stick (pref broom handle).

Assume Phalanx with fellow bros securing front and top first then whichever side has more enemy combatants on.

Preferably have the shield be made of metal and coated in a fire repellant paste. Fucking gommies and their cocktails.

Slowly march back, this will ensure safety and allow us legal defense should the enemy pursue and we strike at them with our makeshift spears.

>>10402640

Let's get to work. The only issue with a thread is shills, niggerfaggots, and faggotniggers.

>>10402932

I think it should either be a concise document (like a brochure), or a multi-part document. Of course, it would have to depend on like-minded folks spreading it to the masses. Obviously the key points should be shit like raising a healthy family, minimizing the electric jew, nature both in preserving it and spending adequate time in it to keep mind/body healthy, physical fitness, diet, etc. etc. Shit that was all key tenets of National Socialism, but it's low key enough to not scare folks off with MUH6GORILLIONEBILSHIDDLER

>>10402932

which writing program should we write it in?

How do we make sure it cannot be tracked?

I am a good writer and am willing to help write for it, but where would it be gathered and through what means?

I suppose we could always type it up, print it out, take a pic and then remove exif data…

>>10402933 (checked)

Yes, an open letter could work!

>>10402932

I proposed making two, the first is the one that would be passed around by likeminded people, the entirely redpilled one that names the Jew and so on, but the second would be more "moderate". It wouldn't name the Jew, but like the first one it would name the specific Jew elites behind everything and allow the reader to connect the dots on their own. Both letters would stress the necessity of keeping the white race, but the second one is more of a plea with evidence why whites are important and should be kept, and the first is more of a demand. The second is to appeal to right whites and maybe even anti-capitalists across the board who are against the "elites" mixing us together to create a consumerist mongrel race. Both would be focused on revealing white genocide and the motive for it, as well as talking about cultural marxism. It's just the first book is the 14/88, reveals EVERYTHING, and the second is more just 14, we can't make people swallow a pill their throat can't handle, the moderate one would ease them into it and in their desire to learn more, would lead them to the more informative, totally redpilled one. I know I used to be just 14, but eventually, after searching for more info, I learned to Heil Hitler. Two years ago I was essentially a classical liberal, imagine, instead of learning through sparse and separate knowledge like I did, learning through one large informative book.

This is a collaborative effort, so add any input you want.

>>10403002

If you go the full document it has to start with the Saxon poem.

Make it clear that it did not start out as WEW NIGGERS but as time went on hatred was the only option left as more and more whites were left no other choices.

>>10403013

Wouldn't discuss details in public TBH, needs to be done in private where shills can't disrupt it. throwaway e mails leading to a Discord/irc channel to discuss the details.

>>10403042

>Begin with wrath of the awakened Saxon

That…was actually the idea I already had. Holy shit you read my mind. It's perfect.

>>10403002

>>10403013

I think before we start a thread, we should find where to write this together. If anyone has any notes, share them. I do, but there's a lot and so far it's just for the second "moderate" one.

>>10403042

Point.

But how are we supposed to organize on here to go somewhere else if we don't tell where it is because we are afraid of shills.

At this point I'd be willing to risk the shills because we'd be able to sort out which pages written are cohesive with our message and which are not.

The worst thing that could happen then is either they'd save it themselves and pervert it and try and sell it as the true version OR … they'd just know that we are doing it, which they presumably already do.

but thats my two cents. I understand the paranoia. Maybe the shitstorms getting to me.

>>10403084

I agree with you. We must brave the shills. We should "peer review" each person's contribution. Ensure the details are correct. Help our brothers out.

This is why we need a place to write it. Somewhere secret. Google doc seems to be the best bet so far, but google accounts are easily hacked, and Google is not our bruder.

>>10403042

>>10403078

>>10403084

>>10403102

If going with a google doc that is open to everyone to add to, then we need someone to essentially be an editor. Someone with a great grasp of grammar to make sure that everything looks intelligent, and palatable.

>>10403084

Shills aren't the problem so much as getting shit done is the problem. Nothing works when you try to build it on an image board because the threads die and no one does shit. If we get the 3 (I assume 3) of us in a private chat we can throw around ideas then actually put them into action.

It's less about "muh shills" and more "Everyone wants to be an idea guy". The best way to get shit done is a small group working together, which image boards simply doesn't support. You can still have a thread to discuss things but you need that central HQ of "this is where we do it" which is where you take the refined ideas to become the manifesto

>>10403123

Google doc is a very bad idea.

A, it's fucking Google. They will ID who wrote it should the FBI want to find them

B, Google can delete it.

C, you don't want monkeys on type writers. You want a dedicated team with a single vision working towards it.

>>10403123

I can edit.

>>10403133

As I said in other posts, we'll need a place to write it. That's where I think we can discuss this. It'll be a few guys, anyone who contributes nothing will be booted (because they could be spies) all discussing together.

>>10401100

A small manifesto listing all the issues in America and the proposed solutions to it would be good enough. talking about this reminds me of Common Sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_%28pamphlet%29

>>10403147

Set up a discord and link it then.

>>10403165

Just set up a discord account. No friends or anything, though

>>10403193

>>10403165

Can discord be traced?

>>10401001

the tilted cross is a jewish symbol

the jews complained about the original confederate battle flag having christian symbols so the confederates tilted it into an X to appease the kikes

http://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/the-confederate-flag.html

we should not use kike symbols on our flags and the confederate cross is historically confirmed to be kike influenced

>>10402608

Covington is definitely the real deal, he's just broke.

>know where to find him

NWF is not small fish and would not be worth the fight if/when its open season on gommies. they'll stick to the cities and suburbs

dragons are a good symbol

they represent european nobility and also monoethnic east asia

both powerful civilizations

classic noble images of unicorns are also symbols of european masculinity

we could take the unicorn back from faggotry

>>10403233

No, and it's too small a channel for any one to give a fuck about any way.

>>10403193

Channel made

https://honeypot/JPhVKW Temp link so get in here while it's hot.

>>10403193

>>10403233

No, and it's too small a channel for any one to give a fuck about any way.

>>10403193

Channel made

https://honeypot/JPhVKW Temp link so get in here while it's hot.

>>10403357

lol, they change the discord dot gg url to honeypot.

>>10403362

So we have a discord, now all we need to do is begin and filter any shills.

>>10403357

I can't find this shit in my app haha. I'm a newfag to discord

>>10403362

>https://honeypot/JPhVKW

What do we replace honey pot with? I tried d iscord and discor dapp

>>10403426

>>10403417

You can just enter the JPhVKW into the new server section.

>>10403426

>Guys the wordfilter won't let me post links to this honeypot how can I get around it and post links to this fucking honeypot

>>10403362

The username was unclaimed so I just claimed it.

The communists were the ones who started a civil war in Germany.

They'll do it again and again the people take a good clear look at society for the first time in their lives and will wish and call upon the diametrically opposed.

Everything is just like before.

>>10403362

Can I get a link to the channel? Put a space in the word that gets filtered to honeypot and I'll get there.

>>10400297

All europeans are super genetically close if you look at the haplogroups.

D&C shilling doesn't work here

>>10403140

Create a thread for people to post stuff they've written.

Then you only need a dedicated team of editors.

>>10403542

discord DOT gg is what is censored

>>10403694

>not antifa

>not the cops

ultimately

>just stay on the internet, goyim

>forget that hundreds of whites came out to stand up for history and white interests, DISAVOW BECAUSE SPENCER WAS THERE

>>10402454

Yes, they hate us.

>>10399225

>>They forced us into a bottleneck through the worst of antifa and BLM, whom they had allowed to surround the park, and people got seriously hurt because of it.

Is there any footage/evidence of this?

>>10403733

Did you not watch the streams? What pretty bs tbh lad

>>10403758

Come again?

I watched some of the streams, but I didn't examine them in-depth as to be able to identify evidence of this claim.

>>10400578

Is that a Shriner sticker on the Tundra?

>>10403795

Blind why?

>>10403818

Bear mace at point blank range, apparently. Coincidentally, TRS just popped back up. Interesting…

>>10399225

>We were set up by the BLM supporting vice mayor and 3 people died because of it.

Lies.

>>10399379

There was no helicopter crash, look at pictures of the "crash" site, it is tiny and there's no trace of a helicopter.

Your ancestors stood in lines with their muskets and got cut down by the thousands because the British were being mean, and now every single mini Hitler strategic genius is soapboxing about how to most effectively ply state power against their enemies because they'd rather stand in a line with tiki torches or shitpost online. Not being le FBI violence incitement man here, but if this passes for a grand plan to retake the US and establish a white ethnostate, it's pretty toothless.

Go traditional innawoods, or go loud and escalate, but you can't keep hoping that every domino will fall according to your master plan. Go ahead, call me a shill, I don't even care about these half brained """planning""" threads anymore. The time for planning is long passed.

>>10403829

>>10403840

Should of wore sun glasses I guess.

>>10403869

Circumstances are different. The founding fathers didn't live in a 1984 police state where every action is known, tracked and countered instantly. We can only what we can in the realm of possibility. Just going allahu akbar and chimping out isn't going to get us anywhere.

>>10403807

Nah, that's like saying a National Socialist is an evil Hitler that is to be slain by the noble Allies.

Dragons weren't always necessarily evil.

>>10403847

>Lies.

What makes you say that?

>>10403875

He did, they got ripped off, from what I gather.

>>10399618

>We must base our version in American culture so that it is relatable to all.

>Our enemies do this in spades by tirelessly citing the poem on the State of Liberty, 'give us your huddled masses, tired and poor…' as just one example.

Here's the problem though, and you hit the nail on the head unwittingly in your commentary: What you describe is legitimately impossible.

Why?, you might be asking… Because the enemy has changed the majority perspective as to what our culture was/is, and because of their control of media and academia, there is really no way to effectively combat those narratives.

That's a big portion of the problem at present, and was/is the intent of the implementation of cultural Marxism, which is itself a derivation of international Jewry: When the enemy controls the mainstream perception of your culture/traditions, you're fucked.

>>10399896

>Mike Peinovich

>calling yourself goyim

God damn TRS could you try not to fail in absolutely fucking everything you do? Jesus Fucking Christ.

>>10400496

That's actually one of the few times Dicky was 100% right though… All the RAISE Act does is focus on bringing in a high-IQ, high-agency leadership caste to direct action in the years to come.

>>10400876

Did someone's bot fail, or are you just a faggot and a retard?

>>10399928

>>10399948

>>10400480

Problem is not having a IRL group is we allow (((them))) to chose our thought leaders for us.

>>10403975

>Problem is not having a IRL group is we allow (((them))) to chose our thought leaders for us.

WE don't, but others certainly do.

Again, the issue of allowing some hostile faction to control your media and academia is blatantly demonstrated.

90% of this shit in the modern age is exposure.

What are the three biggest factors for someone in this context as regards exposure?

1. Shekels

With a greater amount of shekels, you can drastically increase your exposure.

2. Connections

Why do you think Spencer still has a Twitter account? Do you think its because he never typed out the word 'nigger'? Unlikely. Its because he's got connections, which can and do bring in shekels and influence (for example, the means via which to arrange that you don't get de-platformed).

3. Risk

Due to the nature of these times and concepts, the context of our situation, there is a high degree of risk for one to step forward as a thought leader - however, if you're in a position of insulation, say, you've got the right connections or sufficient shekels to protect yourself, those risks are drastically reduced.

Given that context, there's really no way for 'us', nor the general populace, to choose thought leaders - thought leaders are those who have the most exposure and greatest appeal, but 90% of that is the exposure bit, and without large amounts of shekels, the right connections (most of whom echo), and a condition (usually derived from the previous two factors) to alleviate the risks, well… You aren't becoming a thought leader, in all likelihood.

>>10400389

why would we need funding when we already have guns?

>>10404009

Spencer still has a twitter account because he is the boogie man the left will use to destroy our movement.

>>10403975

Don't support anyone who won't run for run for seats in government. It's a useless nothing movement because protests solve and accomplish nothing except thug on thug violence, they have to do what Hitler did. What the elite fear most is the working class whites obtaining political power, they lost control when white workers voted for Trump but they know we could choose someone much better later on too and topple their house of cards and banks.

>>10400319

>>The winning move is to give people a positive association with nazis and le ebil skinheads, the idea of which scares the jews shitless.

>>10400319

<<idea

>>Meme Nazi as "Not See"

its word magic that will enable people to reevaluate their thoughts on the matter (If done properly of course)

>>10404131

the dragon in western mythology represents fear and desire.

>>10403840

>idiot wandered through the think of it

So you want people to just cower and stay back? otherwise they're "idiots"?

>>10404192

>there are only two places in a protest, behind enemy lines and behind your lines

he should've stuck with the group but he wandered off and got isolated

>>10403945

The kikes may have set what the culture is in current year, but they have not yet crushed the memory of what we once had as a national identity or taken our hope for what we could have. There was a famous (((communist backed))) nigger that had a dream that he shared in a televised speech. This inspired many to destroy white America. Before that, a charismatic German army corporal with experience investigating nationalist groups had a dream. His speech on the subject was much better.

Both dreamers relied on creating a shared myth of what the future would be. This was powerful. It propelled Hitler into power and got MLK shot. Meme wizards know much about creating a myth. We already know what kind of future we want. We need to bring people in on that dream.

>>10400578

why are you posting the censored version?

>>10403776

Quick search says yes. What's the deal on them?

>>10403945

>the enemy has changed the majority perspective as to what our culture is

Sort of but they aren't as clever as they think.

For example, Paul Bunyan is uniquely American and represents strength. We can move away from the fashy haircuts and move towards lumberjack aesthetic with a big blue ox and an Ax as a symbol of our own strength.

and Paul Bunyan hasn't been made into a gay tranny into beastiality yet It's a piece of Americana along with the likes of Johnny Appleseed that is unmolested by the jew and still harkens to the American spirit of competition and discovery.

Well, just remember to focus on politics. The NSDAP were a grassroots political party, remember that.

>>10404496

I don't think there should be a unifying image. People don't want to see a collective mob like antifa, a gathering of like minded individuals is more appealing and less intimidating.

>>10404567

>less intimidating

to whom?

the public isnt scared of people marching

leftists are scared of any white man that spreads their legs comfortably on a bus or has a fit aesthetic instead of a pudgy appearance

>>10404623

Put your normie glasses on for a moment. I know it's cringy but who would sympathize with more. Antifa vs. some perceived Nazi larpers or Antifa vs. some goofy people in MAGA hats dancing to Shadilay.

>>10404659

everyone gets called a nazi larper though

my normie glasses just tell me to trust the government to fix things and that i wont be unemployed and will continue finding rewarding work in the field I have papers in

what about normie glasses?

>>10404674

True. But normies don't think that deep

>>10404688

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im not sure i can even comprehend normies anymore im so deep

if i was 15 again I would be wondering immediately why nigger attacks that happen more often never stay in the news long and peaceful rallies like this ar always attacked by (antifa) that appears so much like a group of homeless thugs but always has money to travel the continent very strange

>>10400262

"the impeccable pig" - isn't that where the dodge challenger either started at or ended?

They just blew their load early. part of the power of "le evil nazi", no: its only power, is the white people who feel good fighting them. They just called every white person a nazi white supremacist. they just disabled their only narcissistic supply to the white populace at large by knee-jerk reacting.

>>10405089

Prepare for some serious shit going down.

They just blew their load early and now they're forced to come down hard on everything "alt-right".

What you saw as a gradual redpilling was equally them stalling their final move. All golems are getting mobilized to prevent the coming split in politics.

If Trump was one of theirs, they were waiting to ease you back into the system. If Trump wasn't, he is still the cult of personality for half the country and 95% of whites (young ones especially).

Many frontiers are opening up against old internet pressure release valves:

- no more fun with teasing Shia or else you're kkk

- no more frog memes or else you're a nazi

- being anything right of centerleft is literally hitler

- being attached to confederate heritage is "white supremacist"

This shit is going to go full Orwellian very fast. They can't afford to let the cold war remain cold any more. Cold is complacent and forgetful for the lemming. They need to heat it up a bit to cause a panic reaction. Did I say a bit?

The ploy will be a pro-homo pro-trans and socjus "centrism" like typical alt-kike. Anything considered more "extreme" than that will be shut down. The alt-kike is already making its cuck apologies in an attempt to keep themselves from being lumped in with "nazis", but when has that ever worked on the left? Never. A miracle will have to happen.

The cognitive dissonance caused in whites will make them realize that Hitler wasn't so bad, or they'll start killing themselves. Here we go…

>>10406062

>the same low effort leftypol OC from the other thread

Hey /pol/. This whole Cville episode is really making me reconsider our relatonship with the Alt-right. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least my motivation for participating in so many anti-TRS threads was the attempt to subsume /pol/ as a part of the alt-right rather than its own entity, via shilling the board. With the start of summer, this appears to have stopped after watching it backfire. However, now that they're not trying to take over the board, they're proving very useful in proving the divide between pro and anti-white in America, etc. If the kid is found not guilty this could be a Zimmerman-level redpilling for us, combined with the obvious chimpout that would cause.

What's I'm saying is so: The alt-right wants an ethnostate. We want a national socialist nation. These goal are mutually aligned to a point. Right now their head faggot figures are calling for a LARPer purge, but in the wake of Cville and likely the coming crackdown on the far-right via jewgle etc, I don't think there's anything to be gained in continuing to war against them.

By and large, there are no alt-righters on /pol/ anymore. Now that our objective of repelling them has been accomplished, what is our relationship with them?

Lesson learned: /pol/ was right about the alt-kike all along. Warned for ages, we knew about Spencer too.

>>10405004

They fucked up, the problem is there's already a narrative of Southerners getting annoyed when someone tries to take down confederate artifacts and the public is already at peace with that. Instead of making it about 'Nazis', it's coming across as them being against anyone who supports their confederate heritage. The first thing most reports mention is that statue.

>>10403944

Anyone who doesn't open carry when Antifa is about and they're in a place where it's legal to do so really deserves everything they get.

>>10399829

This is where the /thread/ should have ended.

>>10401872

>I actually think Trump handled this whole thing well: condemned the violence, but did not renounce white nationalism when asked

Trump was the star player in all of it. It's not just that he didn't denounce white nationalism, he opened the Overton window and made it acceptable for the general public to openly condemn Antifa. Politically speaking Antifa and the left would have been better off had they just stayed in bed that day, then the media could kvetch about the gnatzis and there wouldn't be too much in the way of possible counter-arguments.

>>10406103

>>10399829

THe way you do that is REALLY simple. Their method is easy. Let me tell you their one simple trick. It better not blow your mind:

They always make the excuse not to disavow by saying they're justified not disavowing them because they were helping you perform the goal you wanted (preserving the monument, whatever else, etc. etc.).

Super simple argument that typically totally frustrates the other person since you can do this indefinitely with any number of goals. This is because you're not answering their real question:

Do you agree with the other individuals' views and support them? Are you platforming them?

Again you can deflect by saying it's for the good of your goal so you can't comment or whatever.

Kikes use this method all the time. The only reason these arguments aren't used by people is because they're trying to not be a dick and they're trying to be honest. That, or they actually are concerned with the problems expressed within the question itself.

When kikes do this deflecting behavior, they're expressing a disregard for the concerns the questions are supposed to address. Likewise anyone who deflects in appeal to their own standard and not a shared standard between the inquirer and the one answering.

>>10400116

Can a get some sauce on that?

>>10406116

Also, it's easy for the left to say 'thats just one person' or even deflect by saying 'well you have a evil person in your group!' or saying that it is less important for their evil person to be disavowed than yours.

>>10403139

Very interesting thanks for food for thought.

>>10400269

>>10400319

Before the UTR event last weekend, the average normie was desensitized to the word Nazi. They've been calling anyone who wasn't far left a nazi for the last year. Somehow between the MSM and lefty spin on recent events, they've now pushed nazi into something that is really bad.

IMO it might be worth some reverse shilling, start calling anyone and everyone associated with the right/alt-right nazi and people will think it's just lefties being lefties.