1c6f28 No.10413629
What we saw during the rally was Spencer getting arrested and taken to safety while the rally goers were denied being arrested and instead led into violent antifa. This strongly suggests Spencer is a CIA asset.
He likely has 3 purposes:
1. Defang the "alt-right" and lead them further away from our influence, instead toward neocon civnat bullshit.
2. Lead them into traps designed to endanger them/get them to resort to violence, which is a lose/lose situation. They either take the hits and appear weak, or fight back and get demonized.
3. Lead everyone further away from the JQ.
Another anon( >>10412815 ) had an amazing idea, there is a way we are all aptly familiar with to counter this faggy pied piper. We Ben Garrison him. Make memes of him as the most extreme, dangerous Nazi around. Take a picture of him and slap on the most triggering quote you can come up with. Mainly about jews - we can't let our primary enemy hide behind their golems! By doing this we could potentially get him in trouble with his CIA handlers, and could reverse all the intentions he is meant to serve.
This will probably be more effective on fake leftist accounts, as idiots will trip over themselves to RT in order to virtue signal, and we'll be less likely to have our accounts suspended.
4ba5b1 No.10413646
No thanks. I even said it might be an effective idea in that thread, but I don't like lying about people or anyone. Twitter is filled with lying opportunists, though, so you might have luck spreading there.
2cd3ef No.10413687
>>10413629
>not realizing dicky spence was a plant a year ago
it's the current year. try to keep up
6410df No.10413700
>>10413646
>I don't like lying about people or anyone.
Exactly right. Don't make disinformation campaigns to deceive the public. That is literally what /pol/ rages about every day, that so many virtueless people and organizations spread lies and deceits everywhere. We will not do that because it is not honorable or ultimately effective. Liars are not believed, even when that is what is needed most at the time.
The truth is our greatest weapon, and the truth about Spencer and/or about real virtues is enough to counteract him.
2cd3ef No.10413722
>>10413700
>Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run.
Joseph Goebbels
c2ebc0 No.10413728
>>10413647
Don't use the middle one >>10413517 screwed up the wording.
c2ebc0 No.10413734
>>10413700
Nice try Dicky.
4ba5b1 No.10413735
>>10413700
Lying requires power/intimidation, which requires an agent of some sort; or group of agents. Lying is only ever effective as a way which manipulates people. If your lie has no effect on them, then it is useless.
What PR fag will take on the costs of the lie?
It's only when we do ironic campaigns that they aren't lies. DraftOurDaughters was one that had truth. Campaigns/memes are normally ironic, expressing a truth through humor.
I can't really laugh at this 'lie' and there's little ironic about it. Even if it could be effective, if there were some push or it was seen as legitimate.
5d03a2 No.10413739
>>10413647
> that last one
you guys are going to inadvertently turn dick into an undeserving hero.
5d03a2 No.10413746
>>10413647
also
>weaved
<woven
089054 No.10413752
This is as shitty of an idea as portraying that kike Geert Wilders as though he's one of us.
shitty forced meme is forced fuck off alt kike
84c772 No.10413780
>>10413700
We ought to start information campaigns
b6b1a8 No.10413796
1c0fa3 No.10413798
Did Ricky even get arrested? I thought that wasn't him in the picture.
6c0c92 No.10413800
You know, after about 3 fucking years on this board, I still don't understand this petty shit when are much, much bigger enemies to fry. Recall, after election took a month off from here, came back, posted on some random thing, immediately got "yeah right TRS.." Can you fuckers not tell you're being raided by leftist jews into doing their work for them?
Will probably get banned for this too, but in situations like this, one should always ask oneself: "What would Dr. Pierce do?" For example, I know for a fact he didn't like David Duke. So what did he do? HE IGNORED HIM.
With all the Jews busy trying to take down all of us, if you can't see you are bring trolled into doing the Jew's work for them, there is truly no hope for you. I don't fucking like Spencer. I didn't even KNOW who "trs" was until I began getting called it and then was fucking banned for asking why anyone was bothering with it. So, kampfy can ban me again I guess.
The age-old question: ==Cui bono?== Who benefits from energy that could have been spent on Jews being spent on Spencer? Who gains anything from it? How does this board benefit? Not at all from what I can see. Don't like Spencer? Nor do I. Do what Dr. Pierce would: IGNORE HIM. Don't like "TRS" IGNORE THEM. Can you imagine Dr. Pierce or the Alliance before he died engaging in this sort of fucking bullshit?
YOU ARE BEING TROLLED BY ANTIFA JEWS WHO ARE LAUGHING UP THEIR SLEEVES WAKE UP
89abe3 No.10413808
>>10413800
We have to take control of the situation, because right now they are running feds in our name.
765277 No.10413809
Great, another shit Spencer thread.
6c0c92 No.10413820
>>10413808
> running feds in our name.
You're full of fucking shit. Show me evidence of such a thing. If they are committing a crime and attributing it to people here, they'd be in fucking jail. You just know you have no cogent argument agains the very simply question: "What would Dr. Pierce do? IGNORE THEM."
475348 No.10413825
>>10413646
>>10413700
>>10413752
>oy vey, s-stop that goy!
Nice try CIA niggers.
6cff90 No.10413829
>>10413800
Times have changed. If we'd ignored the social justice warriors in 2014, we'd all be in a fun camp or a Eurasian meat grinder right now.
2cd3ef No.10413845
>>10413820
>white nationalist group
>infiltrated & subverted by kikes & feds
>it can't be. POST PROFFS FEGGAT
have you been paying attention for the last 50 years?
89abe3 No.10413850
>>10413820
dude where have you been
>>10413766
>>10413631
>>10413434
They are going to start swat teaming their own federal agents, probably botch a few as predicted here >>10403346
0a1dcc No.10413856
Fuck off you pathetic shills. Spencer did nothing wrong. He had bodyguards. Taking a new approach to white nationalism is the way forward instead of the utter failure of national socialism and all of its baggage fuck off shills you are doing nothing but divide and conquer. Everyone hates spencer and everyone is against him yet he is some sort of cia mastermind in your deluded little head. That picture with Bush is FAKE as fuck you have no source of it and its gay fuck off CIA. Look real cia plant posobiec repeating the same shit you say and your repeated spamming.
89abe3 No.10413859
>>10413820
This isn't going away, the left is lashing out, and we are the whipping post for both the left wing Jews and Right wing Jews.
Shit is getting serious, did you think we could just expose a bunch of blood drinking, child fucking kikes with 80 trillion dollars, and they weren't going to fight back???
1c6f28 No.10413863
>>10413800
>lurked for 3 years
>doesn't know you can't redtext unless its in its own line
Sure.
6c0c92 No.10413871
>>10413845
LEt's say your argument is true. During Pierce's time, the mincing, prancing child-molesting KIKE Franky Cohen took over Rockwell's operation. And there was nothing he could do. Want to do something for your people, for the movement? Learn video editing. A few friends and I learned video editing ! 2006-2007, and learned it well. Our videos of Dr. Pierce's words set to video have been viewed millions of times.
Learn computers Learn to make websites. I'll again ask you, "Cui Bono?" At least 10 times a day, you come on here "spencer is a fag, TRS are fags, this one is a fag…" Maybe that's all true. But how are you, personally, helping instead just LARPing like it's a fucking video game against another "Team." It's not. This is life or fucking death.
Either realize that or go play.."call of duty" or whatever high school kids play these days. How are you helping with threads "X is a fag and y is fag?" WHO are you helping? I think you already know the answer.
1c6f28 No.10413873
>>10413856
>utter failure of national socialism
You are way too obvious.
b6b1a8 No.10413876
>>10413856
The CIA's late night crew is observably worse than the day time crew. Why don't they train you lot to talk like us, instead of a hyperventilating Jew fighting over the last pickle at a kosher deli?
6cff90 No.10413877
>>10413856
Maybe, but I have a hard time believing he didn't know what the outcome would be.
2cd3ef No.10413878
>>10413856
>spencer leads rallies and gives speeches that headline nazi imagery
>new approach to white nationalism
lolwhut?
6c0c92 No.10413881
>>10413863
>doesn't know you can't redtext
"I was almost forced to admit you were right and I have no fucking point and I am a shill, but you didn't use red text correctly (since I never fucking use it). Oh well, you win then I guess….
89abe3 No.10413885
>>10413878
Ya these shills don't know what to do, they thought we would fall for this shit.
1c6f28 No.10413887
>>10413881
>Oh well, you win
Thanks, now shut up.
2cd3ef No.10413890
>>10413871
anon, i'm a big fan of pierce's work. i'm among those who've viewed those youtubes. my issue is with dicky spence. he's not to be trusted, and anybody who does trust him is a tool letting themselves get cranked
0a1dcc No.10413901
>>10413885
No people like you that divide and conquer are the shills ! Look at what they write on how to shill… Just argue and create infighting. Spencer is a white nationalist what the fuck is the problem, exactly you are a shill or you got duped by the shills this is cancer seeing these threads I'm out.
0777b8 No.10413909
>>10413700
<if you jew them you'll be just like them
You haven't been playing the game, have you? I'm an accepted member of a fucking jewish synagogue and have already guilted two cucks into giving me money because muh holocaust. You're missing out if you honestly think using the kike's tools of their trade against them won't work. It does. It works fantastically because they never expect it and, of all people, we know how the jew works better than anyone. Blending in isn't hard at all and the amount you can exploit their lackies without repercussion is massive.
89abe3 No.10413917
>>10413901
His actions and words speak differently, we were winning, now he is just agitating for no reason.
His background and where he gets his money needs to be investigayd.
a1707f No.10413923
>>10413856
I would agree with you if Spencer were against miscegenation and homosexuals
2cd3ef No.10413933
>>10413913
the toppest of keks, anon
475348 No.10413938
>all these obvious faggot shills that sound and act nothing like /pol/locks
I think you're onto something, OP. Your memes are weak as shit though.
6dc922 No.10413950
>>10413800
Spencer has become too big a problem to ignore. He must be exposed and destroyed.
>>10413856
>utter failure of national socialism
You're not fooling anyone kike.
>>10413871
Methinks you doth protest too much.
a0b571 No.10413951
I've yet to see any evidence that he is a CIA plant. Until I see something, I'll keep supporting him. He's organizing major rallies that clearly helps the interest of white people. It's more than anyone else is doing.
6cff90 No.10413956
>>10413938
Mine aren't the best either, and I'm already out of ideas. Any constructive ideas on how to get more out of this one?
1c6f28 No.10413966
>>10413956
>You say white countries for everyone? I say mass graves for the jews.
73e27d No.10413991
>>10413938
The OP ones sound like Richard Spencer though. Like a guy who was getting ass fucked while cogitating the new word he found in a thesaurus.
One Idea you could try is reading his twitter feed to capture his writing style, and then interject more inflammatory words. For that one, how about:
> I am a white supremacist. We should recolonize Africa as a home for white children, that land is wasted on 70 IQ simians.
73e27d No.10413994
6cff90 No.10414001
>>10413966
Ok, but only after I check those dubs.
936e39 No.10414010
>>10413951
At any rate, the real goal would be to have followers themselves pay more attention to the JQ. Keep point out the (((coincidences))) constantly when engaging with fellow members when a topic of degeneracy or leftist behavior comes up. The key is subtlety, so people who are part of these groups find themselves having an epiphany and think, "Shit, the jews are really involved in all of this". The idea is that even if he tries to self-sabotage the group, the scattered followers be redpilled enough to still want to take action on their own. At least then you're covering all the bases.
6cff90 No.10414011
>>10413991
I like it. Very catchy tune.
e0188e No.10414013
Vimeo embed. Click thumbnail to play.
bad news fam. discord released private UTR chats. so much for lulz
a3e17a No.10414014
I can barely contain my laughter when I think about how upset Lil Dicky here will be when he realizes he's been portrayed as someone with conviction for all of a few dozen images. It's better than Taylor Swift laced with Benny G.
73e27d No.10414030
>>10414013
These are pretty good.
73e27d No.10414063
>>10414011
Elephant hunting trips are the quintessential status signal of the affluent WASP. How very passé, I prefer to shoot African children.
e48e81 No.10414066
I'll just leave this here.
73e27d No.10414074
>>10414066
Yesssss. Thanks anon, you're a prince amongst men.
9eb286 No.10414110
At the very least, Spencer is not the best guy to be a "leader". He looks like your average slob, with no aesthetics. He lacks many things that made the only NatSoc leader in history so successful. He has no charisma, he's not a decorated veteran…he's just plain. Go raid a fucking beer hall, Dick.
6cff90 No.10414140
>>10414110
Honda Civic modder in the Le Mans. Anyone on /pol/ could do better, if we would stoop low enough to namefag.
a3e17a No.10414141
>>10414110
>average slob
On a good day, maybe. The rest of the time he's a below average fat kike manlet, ridden with acne decorating his weak jaw butterface that always has a look of constant confusion on it. The man is a fucking multicar pileup on the highway to fuglytown and it's a wonder that any normalfag bluepill cuck is stupid enough to follow him.
475348 No.10414159
>>10413956
>>10413991
The template sucks. They aren't funny enough for /pol/ to bother spreading them, and not convincing enough even if a normalfag does see them. What we need is misinformation so preposterous that /pol/locks can't help but repost it, that normalfags might actually believe. Shit like
>put his face on anti-kike redpill audio recordings and spam them all over twitter, acting shocked at the disgusting things he is saying. two birds with one stone
>edit the gay out of his photos and try to make him look as menacing of a poofter as you can
>Sam Hyde him. take advantage of the fact that his name is being spammed everywhere but normalfags don't really know who he is, and try to trick people he is the perpetrator of whatever crime or wrongthink is going around at the moment. For example, this would have been the perfect opportunity to trick people into thinking he was the guy driving the car.
13e4e7 No.10414163
>>10414110
Richard "I look slightly more aesthetic than Heimbach and Enoch" Spencer.
0777b8 No.10414176
>>10414110
>leaders
Someone get the gas already.
9eb286 No.10414183
>>10414176
Nice try, b8man
34b055 No.10414186
>>10413909
Damn nice idea. Got any more info about how u deceive them?
c9e4a8 No.10414281
>>10413646
You do know rules for radicals talks about making your enemy follow it's own rules. Why would you cuck yourself and follow honorable rules as well? Ridicule is the number one tool used by these fucks as described by alinsky.
9e7eb1 No.10414302
>>10414281
don't get on my case for d&c since you asked.
because jesus
799e7c No.10414433
>>10413800
its gotten to the point that i think our mods are intentionally ruining /pol/ by keeping shit like this up. do they not realize that this shit adds nothing to the discussion? we really need a change of ownership here
9433bb No.10414525
96b9c2 No.10414638
>>10414281
When your enemy is better at applying a tactic, using his own tactic will still lead to certain defeat.
I think there needs to be deep discussion, brainstorming and planning on how to counter their extremely effective Alinsky tactics since it seems like there's very little existing counter to it at this point.
8873be No.10414662
>>10413629
what the fuck am i supposed to see in that second pic
6f06c8 No.10414668
Wow looking at this thread me thinks Spencer must have been doing something right lately.
739fef No.10414719
>>10413800
>ignore the shills
absolutely. It took me a long time to be comfortable using post filters, i felt that i was missing out, but once i started, /pol/ stopped being such a shitshow and turned back into my beloved board of peace, where i can discuss world events and politics with like minded anons.
Here's a (You)
739fef No.10414724
>>10413956
>constructive ideas on how to mislead and misrepresent
yes, stop it, kike.
post shitshow videos of Richard show extensive contusions and bruising. He didn't get off lightly. His arrest was political, and more of the attendees should have chosen that option.
bf606e No.10414752
how the fuck would associating crypto e-celeb tripfags help anyone
fuck off op
learn to sell what you are creating to people
this isnt selling it
f78446 No.10414769
>>10414668
That depends on how 'right' you consider blowing niggers in assorted men's rooms.
a2b1a2 No.10414783
>>10414724
you're not saging right, newfag
99ce2f No.10414789
>>10413629
Fuck off kike spencer
71dc08 No.10414795
I agree Spence is almost certainly controlled plant. He wouldn't be the first either. Probably the goal would be to label the entire new Right as primarily racial supremacists and to have them overplay their hand or "sperg out" at some point.
I don't think the latter goal is generally working very well but the former is.
The meme ad campaign is amusing but I'm not sure if it's the right way to go for several reasons. Think it through a few moves forward like chess. How will the right receive the message, how will the left react, and the middle?
Lying in propaganda if its ever effective long term, or even long enough to accomplish an objective, should certainly be kept to a minimum because of both long term and unforeseen consequences. If you get BTFO telling the truth, oh well.
Perhaps his own choice words can be used. Or perhaps the campaign should only focus on convincing those on the Right, not speaking to lefties and normies the way this one is obviously aimed. His name is already trash amongst them, and he gets no pass for being what seems to many here as rather moderate and mild.
f6be93 No.10414850
>>10414010
I agree with this. By focusing on Spencer, you're detracting from the JQ.
Best approach is to piggy back off of Spencer. Basically, associate the JQ with all things Spencer-related.
Going to a Spencer event? Wear a "Who Controls The Media 2017 Edition" shirt. Get in some of the photos. Or wear a Merchant shirt, do whatever.
Subversion is better than defamation when dealing with an asset whose base you wish to convert.
71dc08 No.10414851
Its interesting this campaign tries to do to Spence exactly what we assume he is trying to do for the non-bushite-neocon "alternative" Right.
To have it labeled more extreme autist than the it generally is, and to speak for it.
Its like a mirror really. I have to admire it even if I'm not sure I'd use it for various reasons, some purely particle and might even question its legality because without being understood as irony it could libel or something similar.
f6be93 No.10414862
>>10414850
>Going to a Spencer event? Wear a "Who Controls The Media 2017 Edition" shirt. Get in some of the photos. Or wear a Merchant shirt, do whatever.
Thought some more on this. The former is better than the latter.
One comes across as blatant racism while the other comes across as a pretty suspicious (((coincidence))). It's like having a statistic thrown in your face.
ce601a No.10414891
>>10413629
> lead them further away from our influence, instead toward neocon civnat bullshit.
Neocons hate all nationalism that's why they're called neo-conservatives because they care about conserving their shekels not their culture, hell they could care less about their country then some neoliberals.
What some on /pol/ don't get is that people need to be phased in to ethnic nationalism, you can't do it in one fell swoop just like how socialists couldn't just install socialist practices and degenerate shit like public money for genetic re-assignment without decades of subversive practices. It has to start with civic nationalism before people can be weened into ethnic.
341327 No.10415522
Why did the faggots even need a public rally? Why didn't they have a private one?
80a6a5 No.10415523
These maymays will only make him more powerful.
f23e36 No.10415555
>>10415522
In fairness, a private rally is actually not a rally at all. The object is to create an event which draws new people into your movement. Private rallies are for people who are already in your camp.
If you want a political organization to grow, you have to put your ideas in the face of people who may not be excited about hearing them at first.
Private rallies are just meetings. Doesn't really matter if you're a TRSfag or not, if you want your ideas to grow, they must be put out in public and people should see the reaction to it.
Not defending Dicky here, but you have to have public demonstrations.
Besides, why would you let antifa and leftists have a monopoly on IRL speaking events? They hold plenty of them. They don't work very well in rural areas, but in places where there's a university or a lot of foot traffic, they're very effective.
f1e782 No.10415716
>>10413629
What if …
The CIA have seen the writing on the wall and realise accelertationism is the best and most peaceful method to retake the nation? Think about it… Everything they do seems to centre around false flags, be it 9/11, the boston bomber or the charlottesville splatterer. They are creating an 'us vs them' narrative, where one side is 'whites' and the other is 'everything else'. They want a 'war' between whites and everyone else; but why now when whites still hold the majority? Why now after they have put the idea of a government bogeyman in the mind's of countless whites, who have predictably started stockpiling guns and ammunition, learning how to live innawoods and got /fit/? Every false flag that they've done seems to have been done with the intention of manipulating 'us' into preparing for a battle with the great 'other'. They've had us preparing for 16 years (at least, I mean Waco and the like goes back further and is such a shitshow that its hard to believe it wasn't intentionally done to start the 'militia movement').
The CIA has been preparing white America to do battle with the foreign hordes that had emerged as a threat to our survival since 1965. Now that a fair portion of White America has armed and readied itself for conflict; the CIA are hitting the 'go' button and attempting to start the war. This is the perhaps the perfect moment for white America to strike; the dark hordes have not yet reached critical mass, we still have numbers on our side - we have had time to prepare - and as of the last year or two white America has been forced to 'pick a side', with the vast majority unsurprisingly picking their own. This is the best time to strike.
Truly the CIA has identified the foreign threat long before any of us had, and have been manipulating white America into preparing for a war by committing blatantly illegal and evil acts against us to force us into 'survival mode'. Every one of us has been manipulated by them and readied for a war that we would have otherwise been unprepared for. It's go time lads. CIA are double-agents and when it all hits the fan - black helicopters gonna be on our side!
7df92a No.10415732
These memes are more effective at destroying the CIA/Mossad/FBI/Cointelpro/DHS/Jew agent Richard Spencer.
222707 No.10415776
>>10413951
He's trying to be a "leader" and to get a cult following. He's fucking it up terribly and he will bring everyone down with him because he's a power hungry whore.
ffbeac No.10415781
>>10413629
I hear what everyone's saying about this helping the jews and shit but it's too funny to pass up over 9000 hours in paint plus they all already think he's a nazi
621f19 No.10415795
>>10413629
>2nd pic
>old bitch on the right is 100% kikess
>middle-age bitch on the left is possible arab
newfags must be blind to not see this shit plain as day
7df92a No.10415827
>>10415795
>old bitch on the right is 100% kikess
You know who that is right?
a11140 No.10415834
f95aa9 No.10415920
>>10415522
>why did attention whore alt-kike faggots need a public rally
So they could be seen as the face of some movement for muh shekels. Just like every person who feels the need to be the face of a group of people in the media.
The thing is there are tons of people in this country with little to zero internet and they need rallies so their presence is known which encourages supporters in liberal states to know they are not alone. Showing up in battle gear to some faggoty park rally is just feeding the media narrative. Even if you don't do anything, the photos look 'scary' to normalfags.
>inb4 muh pr
b659d2 No.10416012
>>10413646
>don't kike the kike puppets, goys
178942 No.10416151
>>10413629
Thats an autistic take. Spencer was maced and taken away by his bodyguards, not police.
51296c No.10416553
FUCK OFF SHILL
SPENCER WAS MACED AND AFTER HE RECOVERED HE WAS ESCORTED INTO ANTIFA HIMSELF
51296c No.10416562
>>10416151
>and taken away by his bodyguards, not police
The police herded him and his bodyguards into the crowd of antifa, where everybody else had to go. He was not given special passage.
beb350 No.10416916
>>10416553
This is for you. How can you seriously post on /pol/ and still be duped by Spencer?
dbfd0e No.10416948
>>10413700
>>10413646
Do you faggots bitch about Garrison edits too?
1eda8f No.10416960
>>10413629
>making a thread for an alphabet soup plant
Where the fuck are the mods?
beb350 No.10417003
>>10416960
We know he's a plant you dolt. That is why we're trying to re-craft the narrative they've invested a lot into.
51296c No.10417022
>>10416916
You can be suspicious of Spencer but still give him credit where it's due. He did nothing wrong in Charlottesville.
beb350 No.10417026
>>10415781
I like the approach of having him call for violence.
beb350 No.10417056
>>10417022
He lured his duped followers into a ridiculous stunt that wasn't going to accomplish anything even if it had't devolved into chaos. What are you smoking? What exactly has Richard EVER done that benefits whites, /pol/ or national socialism?
51296c No.10417133
>>10417056
>real life activism doesn't accomplish anything
no, anon, what are YOU smoking? Is 1 dead commie and 2 dead cops not good enough for you? Are the leftist reactionaries promoting accelerationism not exciting you?
38ad61 No.10417185
>>10417133
Public perception of white nationalism couldn't really be any lower. Yeah, great job. I think we'll be installed the Führer any day now. Thanks Dicky!
38ad61 No.10417195
dbfd0e No.10417202
>>10417185
public perception of white nationalism hasn't changed one iota, its as low as it has been since the sixties.
1eda8f No.10417254
>>10417003
That's fucking retarded. Are you gonna make "le based milo" meme pictures too? Why not use GLR and Dr. Pierce instead?
38ad61 No.10417296
>>10417254
>Why not use GLR and Dr. Pierce instead?
Because they are actually legit? How stupid would you say you are, really?
51296c No.10417320
>>10417185
>PRcucking
The "public perception of White Nationalism" that you're so sensitive to is driven by the fake Jewish media, which will always defame us as "evil." We shouldn't concern ourselves with their lies, especially at a time when less and less people are inclined to believe them.
We need to push forward despite the media defamation just like Trump did during his campaign, and build up our own base and create new mediums with which to inform them. Richard Spencer and TRS will be at the center of this, and they will be resented for his leading roles. But it must happen if there is to be a future for White posterity in the North American continent.
51296c No.10417331
>>10417320
and they will be resented for their leading roles*
38ad61 No.10417396
>>10417320
Richard is leading you into dead-ends. Why not bring the protests to actual centers of power? The point of this thread, I believe, is to turn Spencer into something he isn't, an extreme ally of /pol/'s greater ideals. Spencer is kosher white nationalism, crafted to receive the scorn of the dumb public. You say people don't believe media lies, and yet most goys are getting their information from kikebook. All that has changed is the older medium is dying, not the level of control.
51296c No.10417456
>>10417396
How will framing Richard Spencer as a hardcore dissident be any more appealing to "public perception?"
Your intent here is clearly to destroy, not to create. You have a Jewish character.
f1e782 No.10417472
>>10417396
The point was accelerationism, both through pushing Spencer's followers into reading and possibly accepting more radical ideas, as well as pushing leftists into believing that Spencer and his alt-lite are true /pol/acks - which will lead to them becoming increasingly hostile (if such a thing is possible) which will push them ever further into becoming the leftist boogeyman - us- and at that point they will actually be worthy allies fully aware of the kike cancer threatening us all, and know the only solution is RWDSs.
38ad61 No.10417484
>>10417472
Which is exactly what I said.
>>10417456
see >>10417472
c2238b No.10417497
>>10414783
Spencer addressed the Dugin theory in one of his university speeches…suggest you watch it.
I cant find it, it's in the Q & A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jgyT67fP6k
04556b No.10417504
>>10417456
It's the same purpose as with Zyklon Ben. We have someone who's unwilling to go "all the way" and truly name the jew (beyond just saying they have their own ethnostate). People have tried convincing him to talk more about jews, and he won't do it. Therefore, we meme it and pretend that he said it anyway.
Spencer as an individual is trash. But as a concept symbolic of "white nationalism" we can still use him as a canvas of our own.
dbfd0e No.10417508
>>10417320
>>10417185
The problem with Spencer has never been bad PR or some bullshit. I honestly had no issue with the rally and fuck everyone who bitched about the blood and soil chant. The chant that that kosher faggot baked alaska looked so horrified by.
The real problem with Spencer is that he's cucked on the jewish issue and that he is incapable of being a good leader yet attempts to insert himself into leadership roles anyways. Not some muh pr faggotry.
8d2494 No.10417542
>>10417320
>TRS will be at the center of this
Kike Enoch plz go
38ad61 No.10417580
>>10417542
I think they were channelling their inner Barbara Spectre there.
04556b No.10417582
>>10417508
Exactly. He's fundamentally a shitty leader. He had no backup plans. He was totally naive. He scurried off and left all his followers to the wolves when they were pushed into the crowds of antifa. He's a BAD LEADER.
I have no problem with the PR of the rally. Although, I have to admit, I think people should come up with new symbols to represent the american white nationalists. It's not that I'm PR cucking about the swastika. It's that it's not american. The italian fascists and croatian ustashe and spanish phangists all had their own symbols, flags, etc.
500ee4 No.10417599
>>10417582
there is no issue with groups having their own symbols so long as its for the reason of creating your own identity/brand and not trying to be a "sneaky nazi".
51296c No.10417633
>>10417504
>>10417504
I've listened to Richard Spencer in his recent Q/A with Andrew Anglin. He understands that Jews aren't White and that their presence in Western countries is problematic.
He is not cucking on the Jewish Question, in the sense of failing to identify the Jewish Problem. Maybe he isn't explicitly pressing the issue, but isn't working against us either.
>>10417582
>He scurried off and left all his followers to the wolves when they were pushed into the crowds of antifa
This is a false narrative, see >>10416553
04556b No.10417635
>>10417599
Exactly, that's the point I'm trying to make. It's not about trying to PRcuck and pretend we're not what we are. it's just about having symbols of your own that say "we are american"
Politics/ideology aside, when normal people see people waving 3rd reich flags and swastika, they get the same gut reaction that they see watching some beaner wave a mexican flag. Americans are patriotic, and it's foolish to wave something that doesn't represent America.
Our symbols should be based in americana. stars and strips sort of stuff.
dbfd0e No.10417643
>>10417582
>It's not that I'm PR cucking about the swastika. It's that it's not american.
There were only a couple of people with swastikas, it wasn't exactly used in promotional material. What would you do really? Ban the swastika? Additionally the swastika and public perception of NSDAP is the lynchpin of jewish control over our population, the only way to fully dismantle the brainwashing is to confront that reputation and the holohoax and have people realized that they've been lied to for their entire lives.
1f9557 No.10417646
>>10417633
>but isn't working against us either
Yes he is, he supports the existence of Israel and claim the Holohoax happened, while denying the Holodomor.
dbfd0e No.10417662
>>10417633
>He is not cucking on the Jewish Question, in the sense of failing to identify the Jewish Problem. Maybe he isn't explicitly pressing the issue, but isn't working against us either.
He believes in working with zionist jews, so yes he is thoroughly cucked on jews.
04556b No.10417667
>>10417633
>I've listened to Richard Spencer in his recent Q/A with Andrew Anglin. He understands that Jews aren't White and that their presence in Western countries is problematic.
It doesn't matter if he's willing to talk about kikes in an internal Q/A with DS that only our people will listen to. His "purpose" is supposed to be a frontman for the mainstream cameras, no? He should be dropping at least SOME redpills on the jews.
>his is a false narrative
No it's not. That's no fucking excuse at all. You're ignoring the bigger picture, which is that he gave absolutely no leadership or plans to his people. He DID leave, and he just scurried to twitter because that's what he was more comfortable doing. This was a resort of poor planning on multiple levels.
73eb92 No.10417682
>falling for this long debunked controlled opposition
Kill yourself OP.
04556b No.10417683
>>10417643
You're not hearing me. I'm NOT saying "ban the swastika" at all. I'm trying to make it very clear that I DON'T want to do PR cuck shit like this.
WHAT I'M SAYING, simply, is that we need our own symbols. And that those symbols should be unabashedly AMERICAN to anyone who takes a casual glance at them.
dbfd0e No.10417717
>>10417683
>we need our own symbols
So do you have anything?
>>10417682
>being an illiterate nigger
51296c No.10417745
>>10417646
>he supports the existence of Israel
It is unrealistic for Israel to cease existing, except through weaponized liberalism ("Open Borders For Israel").
It is therefore reasonable for a public figure to simply oppose Israeli interference in our elections and policy.
>the Holohoax happened, while denying the Holodomor
To be fair, these both contain elements of exaggerated atrocity propaganda, but his priorities here are troubling and doubtless influenced by his wife.
dbfd0e No.10417755
>>10417667
>No it's not. That's no fucking excuse at all. You're ignoring the bigger picture, which is that he gave absolutely no leadership or plans to his people. He DID leave, and he just scurried to twitter because that's what he was more comfortable doing. This was a resort of poor planning on multiple levels.
What really struck me was watching the videos of the protesters leaving with jeering coming at them from all sides while they were silent and looked defeated. They should have familiar cadences planned out to be chanting at all times, like you do in the military when marching.
04556b No.10417780
>>10417717
>do you have anything
I'm not a good graphic designer by any means. Here are some examples. Whether any of these are good enough or not isn't the point though; the point is to think about making our own mythos distinct from others. It's not that the swastika and 3rd reich imagery is bad. It's just that it's german, and not american. It's not "ours" so to speak. We need something of our own. And just waving american flags isn't good enough, because then we're not distinguished.
dbfd0e No.10417802
>>10417780
I guess I just prefer 1930's German imagery because at this point my immediate gut reaction to seeing the US flag is to think of kikes and degeneracy.
04556b No.10417803
>>10417755
The fundamental problem is that Spence and the other organizers had 100% faith in the police department having their backs and pulling through as promised. They had no backup plans in case things fell through. That is why they failed.
51296c No.10417808
>>10417667
What kind of leadership would you expect for Spencer to give to a dispersed rally, which by definition is disorganized?
What Spencer did in Charlottesville is admirable. He held is ground in the park and got pepper sprayed by pigs.
51296c No.10417814
>>10417808
>held his* ground
dbfd0e No.10417824
>>10417808
>there's no such thing as organized retreats
04556b No.10417849
>>10417802
I completely get where you're coming from, but it's not going to work that way. It's like trying to get americans to rally behind the, oh say, canadian flag. Something that's just not US.
And I agree that at this point the US flag is too associated with ZOG. Which is why I'm talking about something that still is distinctly american, but still looks different. Even Hitler and the natsocs knew to use german imagery in their symbolism. They used the imperial eagle, but a variation of it. The swastika flag was new, but it still used the colors of the german reich. See what I'm saying?
Just ditching everything about our country and fleeing to other nations' symbols isn't a good strategy. Not because there's anything wrong with swastikas, but because it's not ours. It just doesn't work. We do need to move forward. The ustashe had their own flag. The fascists had their own flag. The phalangists had their own flag. The BUF had their own flag. The polish nationalists have their own flag. WE NEED OUR OWN FLAG.
04556b No.10417873
>>10417808
See how you're trying to frame the debate in a way that you can't make him capable of anything wrong? Your whole point is "given that it turned to shit, what was he supposed to do??"
My whole point is that HE SHOULD NOT HAVE LET IT GO TO SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE. It wen to shit because they were naive, had too much trust in the police, and had ZERO BACKUP PLANS. You can't learn from your fucking mistakes if you are unwilling to admit them. Stop being a boneheaded apologist and just admit that things were very poorly planned.
51296c No.10417894
>>10417824
Recall that he got pepper sprayed or maced or whatever, so he was immobilized and could not provide inspiration to the retreating men.
A state of emergency was declared by the occupational regime and ZOGbots were breaking up any subsequent rallying points. Richard Spencer had nothing left to do there.
04556b No.10417927
>>10417900
There's nothing "americana" about the celtic cross.
dbfd0e No.10417929
>>10417894
>he was immobilized and could not provide inspiration to the retreating men.
He had made no chain of command for if he was disabled? Yet another failure of leadership. Additionally it was his own choice to stand his ground and get maced.
04556b No.10417947
>>10417929
Exactly. It's like if the General were standing on the frontlines, got shot, and the army went into a complete state of disarray and chaos because there were no backup plans or chain of command.
And then this guy would still be an apologist for it saying, ""w-well the general was shot, what were were supposed to do??"
faac97 No.10417949
>>10417927
oy vey lets debate ancestry again with a kike
1fd080 No.10417977
>>10413873
>>10413950
Go out and fly a swastika in front of a white working class persons face and see how they react.
51296c No.10417997
>>10417873
>HE SHOULD NOT HAVE LET IT GO TO SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE
Spencer was not involved in operational logistics. Those who were coordinated with the police, and expected that they were acting in good faith and would try to preserve the peace. Instead, they disregarded all planning so as to make the safety situation untenable, precisely so that they could disperse the rally.
What "backup plan" could have prevented the perfidy of the police?
04556b No.10418020
>>10417969
I'd be in complete agreement with rallying behind the stars and bars, except the only small problem there is that it's strictly a flag for southern nationalism. Might be a bit weird for northerners to rally behind it too, because it's really not symbolic of (white) americans as a whole throughout the country.
I still think it's worth consideration. Probably need to get feedback from yankees and see if they're willing to rally behind it as a symbol of rebellion against the ZOG union.
51296c No.10418028
>>10417929
There were plenty of platoon leaders and such who kept morale high. Spencer was not the only prominent figure.
dbfd0e No.10418050
>>10417947
I'm honestly tempted to try to insert myself into Dickie's spot as I could do far better but it would ruin my chances for election locally. Not sure which is of greater use.
dbfd0e No.10418070
>>10418028
That's not at all what video footage shows. Everyone looks utterly defeated, several with their heads lowered, while they have a pack of niggers and shrill women jeering at them as they pass by.
51296c No.10418091
>>10418070
It depends with which organizations they were part of.
04556b No.10418098
>>10417997
You're just passing the buck. "oh, Spencer wasn't the main e-celeb leader of the rally! So he's absolved of his failure to lead!"
The failure is of the leadership as a whole. Spencer was part of the leadership. I'm not falling for this pass-the-buck bullshit where we go in a merry-go-round of blame over which e-celeb organizer should've been the one to lead. That is also an indication of a failure of leadership in and of itself.
>What "backup plan" could have prevented the perfidy of the police?
this is the equivalent of someone critiquing a movie and the response being "oh yeah, well let's see YOU make a better movie!" It's quite literally not an argument. I don't need to explain to you exactly what sort of contingency plans and chain of commands should have been in place to make my point that there was a failure of leadership at this rally.
The longer you/they fail to take ownership of the failures at Charlottesville, the longer they will continue to occur at future rallies. Even I don't think Spencer is as delusional as you're being. He knows damn well what his failures were, even if he won't come out and say them to people like you.
8d2494 No.10418103
>>10418020
Anon with all due respect you are acting like a whiny bitch. We're not playing dress-up here, just grab a fucking flag that shows our history. For the love of all that's good just don't use a Kek flag.
04556b No.10418107
>>10418091
Once again, passing the buck.
dbfd0e No.10418130
>>10418091
Hey I'd be happy to be proven wrong, have any video of these organizations who left in an organized manner with their heads held high?
04556b No.10418135
>>10418103
Should the national socialists have just said "fuck it" when trying to figure out what flag to rally behind, and just told everyone to bring all their own germanic flags from any of the constituencies of the german confederation or the HRE or any other flags and symbols?
There needs to be a single set of symbols to rally behind. These symbols need to be american. That's all I'm saying.
692f56 No.10418172
>>10413629
Sage and report all D&C shilling threads!
51296c No.10418180
>>10418098
I still don't know what you mean by "lead." The police literally ambushed the rally and routed its participants. Richard Spencer did the most noble thing he could by standing his ground.
What contingency plan could have changed things in a state of emergency where there's martial law and the constitution is suspended? You're just grasping at straws because you dislike Spencer and want to blame him personally.
Instead, blame the ZOGbots. Thank God for those two dead pigs.
a029da No.10418189
>>10417997
>What "backup plan" could have prevented the perfidy of the police?
>backup plan
maybe have an initial plan that doesn't rely on police that are under the authority of a commie mayor who openly despises your movement (and the governor if we're counting the other security assets in place)?
It's not like this wasn't obvious after Berkley…
8d2494 No.10418196
>>10418135
>These symbols need to be american.
Then use the American flag or the Gadsden if you think the stars and stripes are too tainted. If you're that out of ideas just use the Swastika for maximum shock value. You are getting caught up on the equivalent of dumb semantics.
51296c No.10418199
>>10418180
>Instead, blame the ZOGbots. Thank God for those two dead pigs.
Also, blame the governor and the entire occupational regime. They're the ones at fault.
692f56 No.10418216
>>10418180
Exactly.
>>10418199
The responsible must be identified.
04556b No.10418217
>>10418180
>blame the zogbots
If I leave my car unlocked and a nigger open the door and steals everything inside, it's his fault. But it's also still my fault for leaving my car unlocked. If I were to leave my car unlocked in a place where niggers were roaming around, I would be called naive and foolish.
Likewise, The UTR organizers, including spencer, were completely naive and foolish to trust 100% in the police to do as they promised and protect them. I hope they learn from their mistake,
51296c No.10418232
>>10418189
>maybe have an initial plan that doesn't rely on police
That's essentially impossible. The police are agents of the regime and have ultimate authority over everything. By conniving with the mayor and governor to shut down the rally, they checkmated us.
51296c No.10418257
>>10418232
I mean, maybe there could have been a vanguard of 500 armed men who occupied and fortified the park all night, in preparation for the rally. But the police probably would have forced a Waco.
62cddf No.10418261
>>10418103
>Kek flag
Should all Kek symbols with kek be abolished or is just the kekistani flag tainted?
dbfd0e No.10418266
>>10418261
Only the kekistani shit as far as I'm concerned, though gods of obscurity are best left obscured(online)
a029da No.10418267
>>10418232
these were agents of a local, hostile, regime. either pick a friendlier venue, or put together some contingencies for betrayal.
they should hold these rallies in less pozzed places, draw antifa out of their urban/academic shitholes, or make them forfeit via no-show
51296c No.10418278
>>10418267
No, we need to take this fight on the offensive. It's why Berkley was so effective.
51296c No.10418296
>>10418278
>>10418267
And the only contingency for betrayal by the police would risk a massacre.
692f56 No.10418314
>>10418135
It should neither be the basic Swastika flag nor the US flag.
The NSM flag is a good attempt at something new but not good enough design-wise.
Kekistani flag doesn´t look so bad but it seems lacking, sorry Sargon.
+ some basic Swastika and SS flag.
It has to be original and it has to be good.
51296c No.10418318
Maybe giving the police the option of "massacre or rally" would force them to enable the rally.
On the Vice documentary, when somebody threatened to send 200 armed men to Lee Park to retrieve the few people stranded there, the police immediately caved in.
But I think ZOG is itching at a chance to kill us tbh
04556b No.10418333
>>10418196
This is another good candidate, although it's more of the lolbergs and oathcucks thing. Everything has pluses and minuses
>>10418314
You got the right idea. Personally I'd like to see more threads with anons who can into graphic disease coming up with more design candidates too.
ab27dc No.10418347
>>10413629
I can't get enough of these Zyklon Spencer quotes, is anyone sharing them on social media? I want to gauge how normies are perceiving them.
e15eee No.10418350
Listen you fags, surely it would make more sense to out Dicky as a fake nationalist plant rather than make him look like an actual National Socialist, correct? In the eyes of normalfags and honest nationalists being subverted by the Alt-Kike this could potentially serve as an informative redpill against his false controlled op civnat agenda; and with the right wording it may even be possible to provoke a counter movement against him in the Alt-Right and thus redpill more people into becoming honest to goodness National Socialists.
62cddf No.10418351
MoonMan is pretty American, since he enjoys american cuisine.
a029da No.10418355
>>10418296
>the only contingency for betrayal by the police is massacre
says who? I'm not going to spoon-fed the alt-kike. you guys could figure this shit out…maybe if you had sincere leadership or don't figure it out, It's all the same to me
51296c No.10418365
>>10418355
The only leverage you can possibly have against the police is "my gun against your gun." >>10418318