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0712dc  No.11651293

Since it won't be a Turkroach sponsored circlejerk and we can actually have differing opinions, let's discuss World War 2.

Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

Why was Italy so useless?

Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

6ede7f  No.11651315

The axis was doomed from the start and hopelessly out manned from day 1

0712dc  No.11651334

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


I meant to link this video, but the primary reason for defeat is the lack of oil. German had trucks, tanks, bomber, fighters, the whole nine-yards, but lacked oil. Thus they couldn't use hardly any of it and relied on horses for a lot of their logistics.

383325  No.11651363

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If i can discuss this, i have a single and simple question. Try to answer it from an objective perspective:

Was invading / retaking Poland, a bad decision taken by the natsoc germans?

Would WW2 have been averted, or at least delayed a few years, if not for this?

Take into account that germans were researching for atomic bombs, so if they have had gained a few years, it would have literally turned the tables in the upcoming war.

0712dc  No.11651386

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I think so. Knowing when to restrain yourself is just as important as knowing when to strike. Hell you could go a step farther and question whether invading all the other countries prior to Poland was a good idea. Imagine what the outcome would've been had Germany been rather Isolationist in military terms, similar to the US. Granted I don't know how well that would've worked considering the US is across the Atlantic, it's only neighbors being the canucks to the north and the Mexicans to the South, and not the powderkeg that is the entirety of Europe.

6d0c75  No.11651403


Yeah, it was not like the german minorities in the pre WW1 german territories in Poland were getting persecuted by the polish state. If you're running an ethnonationalist state, you kind of have to resolve that. Diplomatic actions failed, and the rest is history.

4e202c  No.11651412


nigger try to understand a few important driving forces as to why Hitler did what he did in the east. Poland was killing swarths of ethnic germans & refused to stop

796cfc  No.11651487

File: 693e826df1e0f84⋯.png (440.15 KB, 1489x1423, 1489:1423, xcKyTvu.png)


>was stopping the genocide of your people after Poland REPEATEDLY IGNORED YOUR CALLS FOR A DEMOCRATIC PLEBISCITE the wrong thing to do


>Would WW2 have been averted, or at least delayed a few years, if not for this?

No. Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany. And Stalin was planning to invade all of Europe. Averted, no. Delayed, barely. And the communists would have won even harder.


> Hell you could go a step farther and question whether invading all the other countries prior to Poland was a good idea.

All none of them, you mean. You're fucking retarded.

0712dc  No.11651509


>All none of them, you mean. You're fucking retarded.

<What is Czechoslovakia

<What is Lithuania

796cfc  No.11651533


So no, you know nothing about the leadup to WWII and are mentally fucking disabled. Got it.

4e202c  No.11651538


no he's right. you are retarded. Lithuania was not Germanys concern until later in the war and regaining german parts of Czechoslovakia was a diplomatic process

0712dc  No.11651588



The Ethnic-German parts of Czechoslovakia were peacefully acquired through the Munich Pact, yes, however Bohemia and Moravia were not.

15f42d  No.11651641


I see nothing wrong with acquiring the ethnic parts of Czechoslovakia, and eliminating the country itself was justified, the less enemies you face on your border the better.

They forced Lithuania to secede the Memel region which voted with overwhelming majority National Socialist, was also mostly ethnically german and had been part of the Reich before.

Lithuania was invaded by Soviet Russia, and the Germans were welcomed as liberators by the Lithuanians during their march through the country as part of Operation Barbarossa.

a476cf  No.11651650


Some anon on here a while back explained they lost because their communications were deciphered fairly on and even despite this they still had a 3/1 K/D ratio

0712dc  No.11651680

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Oh yea, make no mistake is that I'm not necessarily saying that all these decisions are bad, but moreso pondering what-if scenarios on what could've happen hindsight is 20/20.

The re-acquisition of the Sudetenland was done peacefully and diplomatically, and there was nothing wrong in that decision, however invading the rest of Czechoslovakia didn't win Hitler any favors diplomatically with other countries.

855263  No.11651694

Irving's Hitler's war should be required reading to be able to post in this thread.

31c049  No.11651702

I've never really agreed with a common thing that I see here which is anons getting pissy with the average solider for the Allies and how they're "traitors". WW2 was such a different time, information was so much slower to pass through to people and trust in what the government was such much higher. I just can't get mad at some farm boy from some place in rural Texas or Virginia -who barely has a high school education (if that) who hears that his country has been attacked and that Europe is being taken over- and decides to go off to fight, see the world and serve his country. Sure, I'd bet that 95% of them would be appalled to see what has happened to their countries and I bet a large percentage of them would have likely supported the other side as a result but looking at their perspective through a 21st century POV has always seemed silly.

15f42d  No.11651830


I don't see anyone here getting pissy over the average american, brit or frenchman, it's why the entire war is such a tragedy, men of all ages and countries forced to fight eachother so the kikes can use them in their twisted game and win.

855263  No.11651831


You know what. Read Hitler's revolution. It has a lot of great info on the pre-war situation with Germany's neighbouring countries.

1776b8  No.11651919

Hitler spread his army too thin trying to invade the Soviet border. Not to mention all the men and materials he wasted in Norway. Watching the documentary series Nazi Mega Weapons (or Mega Structures) and you'll be like wow Nazis were amazing engineers but Hitler was a moron for building shit in all the wrong places. The amount of concrete he wasted in Norway that was never fired upon is insane.

31c049  No.11652000


I don't mean in this thread but I've seen those sentiments posted here a ton of times.

e741ae  No.11652013

File: e42e322b96e0e38⋯.png (170.02 KB, 2021x894, 2021:894, dunkirk.png)

Why the fuck did Hitler allow the Brits at Dunkirk to escape? Had he got them, the Brits would have been done. If it's because he wanted peace with Britain, Hitler was a weak leader.

c43873  No.11652211


You almost sound like that spammer that kept making those "Germans are the real jews!" threads.

f70a4f  No.11652234

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I have the biggest folder.

prove me wrong

1af513  No.11652383

File: eb6814faf3cfb0c⋯.png (5.17 MB, 6212x3108, 1553:777, After-the-War.png)



>WW2 as is, was a mistake.

<Hitler should have focused on supporting a coup in Britain by Oswald Mosley. With Britain on his side, the world could be split between the Axis powers.

This map is aesthetic though…

fc4c43  No.11652437


>Why was Italy so useless?

Their military was weakened from Mussolini's previous campaigns. He asked Hitler to hold off for a few years while he rebuilt it, but Hitler ignored him and started invading other countries anyway. Mussolini was pissed that Hitler didn't consult him before invading, so he invaded Greece without consulting Hitler just to get back at him.

55a532  No.11652603


>Yeah, it was not like the german minorities in the pre WW1 german territories in Poland were getting persecuted by the polish state

Same thing happened with German minorities in Tyrol, Italy, yet Hitler didn't do anything.


>Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany

It was a reaction to what was planned and what ended up happening.

>With Poland we come now to the core of the Eastern problem. The existence of Poland is intolerable and incompatible with Germany's vital interests. She must disappear and will do so through her own inner weakness and through Russia — with our help. Poland is more intolerable for Russia than for ourselves; Russia can never tolerate Poland. With Poland collapses one of the strongest pillars of the Peace of Versailles, France's advance post of power [is lost]. The attainment of this objective must be one of the firmest guiding principles of German policy, as it is capable of achievement — but only through Russia or with her help

Hans von Seeckt, 1922

f03a66  No.11652658

File: 287cf7793324e61⋯.mp4 (4.05 MB, 476x268, 119:67, deleting the jews.mp4)


Eh, kind of. The Engima was cracked many times, but it had updates and wasn't consistently broken till about 1943. Even then, the Kriegsmarine never really had the levels of infiltration of their encryption the way that the Wehrmacht did.

796cfc  No.11652676


>reaction to what was planned

No. Hitler loved Poland's leader and there was no animosity with the poles beyond restoring German lands. Shit from 1922 has nothing to do with Nazi Germany or Hitler's plans. He wanted an alliance with Poland to attack the USSR.

55a532  No.11652975

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>beyond restoring German lands.

Which wasn't going to happen under any condition. He only liked Piłsudski to buy Germany more time, Haller wanted to invade straight away, in 1936 where we could've done some serious, serious damage, in reaction to the German nation rearming the Rhine and threatening France but Hitlers pandering ended up swaying Piłsudski, so he refused, believing there could be peace.

>He wanted an alliance with Poland to attack the USSR

He wanted to bleed us out, for one, because the USSR offered to invade Germany with us, and secondly, because the Weimar government pior offered to recognize us if we (attempt) to liberate Estonia (with Germany) and Ukraine (alone), the very event that sparked off the Polish-Soviet war, the goal of the Weimar government was for us to loose so that they could annex us without repercussions (this is also why they pressured the Czechoslovaks to block Hungarian reinforcements for us); the NatSoc German government hoped we would loose this time so that they could continue their ambition without looking bad (if we lost) while making us look like the aggressors. The Germans were very good at engineering wars to achieve what they want.

ee6351  No.11653016

Ambassador to England, Joe Kennedy, said Churchill wanted London to be bombed, and he had warned that he would engage in false flag attacks to provoke the war.

Actor, Norman Shelley, was giving speeches, not Churchill. He was a double with a clearer voice. Churchill was always drunk and would slur his words, so they needed an actor.

NYT suppressed it and received Pulitzer Prize for the false journalism on the area deliberately meant to suppress the genocide. USA would've never allied with Stalin in WW2 if knew about the genocide. Malcolm Muggeridge reported on it and suggested that the NYT should get all its Pulitzer prizes revoked because it was a malevolent organization. Gareth Jones also reported on the genocide.

Dachau - fake gas chamber was constructed by CD Jackson and Hollywood directors. The films were made by Alfred Hitchcock and Billy Wilder. Bulldozed bodies were bombing victims. Nuremberg Trials were designed by Murray Bernays, the nephew of Edward Bernays, to give the impression of a trial despite the defendants not being allowed to present evidence in their defense. The Red Cross estimated only 100,000 dead kikes.

ee6351  No.11653029

Hitler supported Poland, but their government was antagonistic against the Germans, so he was left with no options. The previous government would have joined the Axis Powers.

55a532  No.11653062


Churchill became an MP in 1940, when England had already declared war on Germany. Before that, he was effectively a nobody, his opinion didn't matter. England carried out a more than lenient policy forwards Germany: not only did they campaign for Germany to keep Silesia prior to the wars brake out, but they recognized all of Germany's further territorial gains, going as far as to offer them their past colonial possessions (such as Namibia) if they stopped at that.

>The Red Cross estimated only 100,000 dead kikes

Its ~200 000, and it only accounts for those dug up or found, the rest were cremated to combat thypus and get rid of disease, not counting others in Western concentration camps or massacres, that, per Germanys own law, still count as a causality in the "holocaust" as the term envelopes all that happened against the jewish people on occupied territory.


>The previous government would have joined the Axis Powers

Not a chance.

1312aa  No.11653076


a90c67  No.11653170


delete this

545c95  No.11653188


>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

On the day of the larp, people like you will be burned alive.

cdb423  No.11653382


The English are unironically the real Jews.

383325  No.11653419

File: d236b640b238bbe⋯.jpg (73.58 KB, 634x744, 317:372, time_magazine_hitler.jpg)


>No. Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany. And Stalin was planning to invade all of Europe. Averted, no. Delayed, barely. And the communists would have won even harder.

So, now that we know Hitler lost, you still think he did the right moves?

If he restrained from "invading" (rather, retaking lost territory) the places he went for pre-WW2, then the anglos would have had a harder chance at manipulating public opinion about the war.

False flags would have happened, of course, but would have they been enough to drive England into war with non-invading, non-expansionist Natsoc Germany?

My main point here is that, if WW2 would have been delayed for 2 to 5 years, Germany would have won.

Not expanding German territory would have served this purpose of not looking like the "evil menace of Europe", mainly for the Americans who don't understand anything on the other side of the world.

Knowing that Germany lost, i cannot help but think Hitler did misscalculated on the response of the allies.

Also, natsoc Germany should have created propaganda against Soviets, and distribute this to America, and so would have gained USA sympathy.

e741ae  No.11653708


Not an arguement. It's a silly screencap I know but tell me why he held back at Dunkirk?

8cdc64  No.11654366


No they weren't. There are many events that could have gone differently and led to their victory. As brilliant as Hitler was, he had some key weaknesses, like his loyalty to "friends", an optimistic view of relations with Britain, and an unnecessarily brutal treatment of Slavs that contributed significantly to Germany's defeat. Disloyalty in the command structure was a major problem that cost Germany things like the capture of Soviet oil sources, and the encirclenment of Moscow (field marshalls instead chose to waste men and resources on a frontal attack on the city against Hitler's orders). The assassination attempt on Hitler that came closest to succeeding involved dozens of people in powerful positions in the Reich (most of whom were in turn executed for their betrayal).

Outside of outright sabotage was a tendency towards incompetence and corruption with misuse of resources, and mismanagement in various areas important to German victory. Goring (in charge of the Luftwaffe) frequently failed to meet deadlines, and was often found using funds for his own personal enjoyment (very common with others as well, including Goebbels).

Of course maybe there was a way to achieve propaganda victory without having gone to WW2, but even having gone to war, there's many a thing that could have been done differently to give Hitler the victory he sought.

62e19a  No.11654374



Germany raped most of Europe in record time

6ede7f  No.11654442


And? That doesn't change the fact they were outgunned.

The war outside of Asia was basically Germany fighting


>most of North Africa

>the USSR

>the USA


>the UK

>Australia and every other commonwealth country

>towards the end of the war I'm fairly sure even a few south American countries declared war

US war movies paint a picture of the plucky allies defeating an impossible enemy. The reality was the Germans fighting like hell against an almost unwinable war and almost winning.

2401c8  No.11654469


8cdc64  No.11654485

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2401c8  No.11654517

File: 690736db273676f⋯.png (72.84 KB, 266x158, 133:79, eternal_life.png)


good stuff and moar

2382c4  No.11654650

I think its obligatory to say the least to bring up the fact that Hitler played by the rules to a tee, whilst the allied forces degenerately raped and mind fucked the german people to extinction. The carpet bombing on the scale that the allies implemented was disgusting. No matter how hitler would have played it, the jews hate the aryans, the jews had already controlled every side of the fence. No matter how put off or isolationist hitler could have been, it would never have been enough. His hatred was well placed on the jews and he did all he could, not blackpilling but we just arent mentally or dimensionally ready to take them out, we would need a fucking miracle to level the playing field. A solar flare to drop electricity and communications followed by the greatest ethnic cleansing mankind has ever seen. A complete scrubbing of the soulless pyscopathic kikes. All of which just cannot happen while they controll the five eyes, the money and oil, and undoubtably all the fucking nukes.

Also hellstorm docco - https://youtu.be/Ck-TEamhLBk

Already in another thread so I cannot embed

2401c8  No.11654737

we are most certainly ready to take them out yet it has to be in simplistic terms instead of word salad the intellectuals appreciate we keep it simple for the simple minded that have no Idea how the parasite jews have fucked them until slow bread crumb red pills until they think they figured it out for themselves when we knew all along.

41390b  No.11654748

File: ccfaee2ccb2779e⋯.png (65.85 KB, 261x248, 261:248, nikoi.png)

Stop betraying us. Please.

2401c8  No.11654814

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b5e57d  No.11654825


Hitler allying with USSR was a big mistake, letting USSR invading Poland alone would mean that (((alies))) have obligatory to save Poland ass but of course alies wont do shit, this will force desperate Poland to seek help from Natsoc Germany and Hitler could demand Danzig in exchange. To the world Germany aiding Poland VS USSR would have a good reputation to the normies and normies will be like i want to be a fucking Fash kill all the fucking commies ,fuck those allies ,fuck my goverments leader who dint help the polish people. the kike will say to the masse oy vey goyim you gonna fight the Nathzee to save those poor commies that attack weaker country like Poland ,the people of europe, americas wont give a shit about those warmonger and wont risk theirs life for commies.

2401c8  No.11654842


irrelevant we are faced with different circumstances than the germans as much as I appreciate knowledge of old shit I must respectfully say fuck all that lets deal with here and NOW.

2401c8  No.11654871

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5e6340  No.11654957



Read the book!

b00d14  No.11655009

File: 9deec94dd77cb1c⋯.jpg (71.75 KB, 634x802, 317:401, article-2245321-166BD5DC00….jpg)


>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

The whole point of those moves was defeating communism. Hitler's main goal for WW2 was defeating communism, not Bongland. And he was willing to sacrifice his own people.

By forcing the Allies to fight on the communist side he exposed them for what they are.

And he forced Stalin to change the communist block into a pan-slavic union. "For the motherland" was a nationalistic slogan, something that was a big no no under communism.

The fact that the Eastern Block died in 89' was due to Hitler preventing the initial plans of invading Western Europe, exhausting them for the next 20 years and then locking themselves into the before mentioned pan-slavic union where they just cannibalized themselves due to True Communism.

Communism needs new victims to suck life out of.

>Why was Italy so useless?

Italians are shit fighters to begin with. The army was underequipped, badly structured and had moronic leadership. Mussolini f.e. ordered the invasion of Greece against all reason.

>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

Yes. Not bombing the British high command for their high treason of the British people.

9cc219  No.11655023

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I have 100s of gigabytes of WW2 content, your folder is nothing in comparison to any of mine.

b00d14  No.11655095


>Why the fuck did Hitler allow the Brits at Dunkirk to escape?

Chivalry and goodwill. If the same situation happened to France in WW1, they would be suing for peace even before the Germans stepped into the vicinity of Paris. The Allies were soundly defeated on all accounts and he gave them their army back so they wouldn't lose the colonies.

The Brits of course acted like commie jews and had no intention to sue for peace. They were in fact the first that started with the mobilization of their economy and population for total war in 1940.


>Same thing happened with German minorities in Tyrol, Italy, yet Hitler didn't do anything.

[Citation needed]

>>11651403 Poles were massacring Germans on purpose to drag Germany into war. Caring for ethnic Germans was perceived as Hitler's "weak point".

Italy was friendly to Germany and had no reason to do so.


>The Germans were very good at engineering wars to achieve what they want.

Sure thing, it certainly wasn't (((them))), eh commie.


>Before that, he was effectively a nobody, his opinion didn't matter.


Kek anon, at least show some knowledge. He was the first lord of the admiralty. Head of the British Navy,

And also the reason Norway got invaded as he fucked up. Many protested his appointment solely because of this. But he was appointed the same way that Theresa May was.


>Hitler allying with USSR was a big mistake

Taking out Poland was clearing the battlefield of rocks and bumps. They both knew they would be at each other's throats.

The story that Stalin was surprised is bullshit. That mass of arms on your borders isn't going to be unnoticed. Especially due to the fact that the Soviet intelligence operation put the German and Allied counterparts to shame.

What maybe surprised Stalin was the effectiveness and final reach of the German war machine. His purges were probably a big factor in all of this since you don't want to disappoint the head comrade about the bad condition of your otherwise perfect army.

But you could also argue that one of Stalin's strategies was to load Germany with so much war prisoners that the war effort suffers as a consequence.

b00d14  No.11655097


And yet you contributed nothing to the thread.

c12e11  No.11655115

File: dad59ce40afae54⋯.png (14.08 KB, 422x198, 211:99, Screenshot from 2018-05-30….png)

File: ebc5d859c8722c4⋯.png (161.73 KB, 577x377, 577:377, WW2.png)

File: bd366c96b4cb83a⋯.png (162.42 KB, 1240x537, 1240:537, WW2 Anon 1.png)

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File: 99b6a44dfc207d9⋯.png (52.1 KB, 1234x343, 1234:343, WW2 M-R pact.png)


I'll make a zip of my Uncle Adolfs and I don't have much to say other than what other anons have already pointed out and these screencaps.

c12e11  No.11655118

File: a58736ba0e7fdae⋯.png (21.96 KB, 1226x144, 613:72, WW2 aftermath.png)

File: a54c3cb43a4b7ff⋯.png (195.98 KB, 1230x416, 615:208, WW2 Japanese 1.png)

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1bba10  No.11655120

File: c30d9d77787bf69⋯.jpg (26.27 KB, 560x413, 80:59, 44_01.jpg)


With none of todays hindsight theres 2 major ones which should have been no brainers:

1. Turning the Panzers on AG Centre axis south to Kiev and not continuing drive to Moscow. Literally no major troop formations in the way.

2. Attempting talks for a conditional surrender with Allies in August '43 or Jan '44. OR unconditional surrender in Sep '44.

Think about point 2. before you come back at me with some weak dribble about 'defeatism'.

c12e11  No.11655130

File: 901e40de34b2ac0⋯.png (62.03 KB, 1269x289, 1269:289, WW2 and lend-lease.png)

File: bbb3c2a57f1e727⋯.png (25.92 KB, 1218x168, 29:4, WW2 Stalingrad Strategy.png)

File: 17e3f84d8d145e7⋯.png (283.62 KB, 1245x449, 1245:449, WW2 Always kill a traitor ….png)

File: 5894add21074983⋯.png (109.57 KB, 793x446, 793:446, Italy in WW2.png)

File: be05797b52610c4⋯.png (15.89 KB, 820x100, 41:5, Chemical and Biological we….png)


>a conditional surrender with Allies in August '43 or Jan '44. OR unconditional surrender in Sep '44.

That was never an option, it was either Total Victory or capitulation to International Jewry which could not be tolerated.

8cdc64  No.11655163


Propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels criticized the treatment of slavs with good reason. Germany could have entered Russia as saviors, and increased their manpower every step of the way, but instead they shit on the people that were already poorly treated by the Bolsheviks/Soviets and created another problem in what turned out to be a disastrous campaign.

b00d14  No.11655164


>Turning the Panzers on AG Centre axis south to Kiev

Baku oilfields were in all honesty more important. Or at least cutting the railway hub(Stalingrad) to cut the oil supply off.

Moscow was important for production but that would stall if oil wasn't supplied.

>conditional surrender

It was unconditional surrender since 39' anon. Conditional surrender meant Hitler would survive.

1bba10  No.11655197

File: a280b35ea5ae9fc⋯.jpg (332.55 KB, 1369x938, 1369:938, R1VOpmO.jpg)

pic is FJs in 1945 being used as snipers. Interesting choice of G-43s with scopes.


Total Victory wasnt happening after Kursk and Capitulation to ZoGs happened in 1945 anyway.

With a functioning army in in 43-44 something better could have been scraped. Maybe even a Soviet defeat with allies.


Youre thinking summer offensive '42. Fall Blau. Im talking 1941 pre Kiev pocket.

3768c3  No.11655210


It could of if Adolf eliminated the unfaithful generals sooner, started nuclear weapons research earlier and use Chemical weapons to stop allied from getting a foothold in normandy.

abb598  No.11655260

File: 8c42c6b5507c6ae⋯.jpg (44.63 KB, 800x558, 400:279, 1941 Walter Model.jpg)

Real talk time

Army group north retains panzer army 4 and pushes to encircle lake lagoda thereby isolating leningrad from supply. Reinhard and Manstein link up with the Fins instead of diverting to AG centre for OP typhoon.

Army group center drives and encircles Moscow (feasible, no mud) by not wasting time north of Kiev. Panzer army 2 & 3 can use Moscow as a safe haven during winter of 41 and rotate defensive duties as necessary. Rail gauges are convered in time to dump supply in the city.

Army group south drive to Rostov and dig in. Refiting until summer.

This kills the soviet.

b8ec84  No.11655261

File: 444baeb1062ab25⋯.jpg (155.4 KB, 640x669, 640:669, 1505983634934.jpg)

>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland

The poles murdered 70k ethnic Germans in Danzig

>and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Hitler unified the part of Czechoslovakia inhabited by Germans into the Reich, and recognized the ethnically Czech portion as an autonomous state.

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries

UK and France declared war on the Third Reich, not visa versa.

>and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

The Third Reich was already the most prosperous nation on earth.

>Why was Italy so useless?

Italy had no army until 1860, and was still getting their shit together. They performed as well as could possibly be expected of them considering their experience and resources.

8cdc64  No.11655272


Italy was divided in its command structure. Mussolini had to contend with the King, which no doubt limited the effectiveness of the military. Still, Italy's defeats are embarrassing blemishes on the country's history. So many of their failures were achieved whilst having superior numbers and armaments.

e16c62  No.11655283


>The poles murdered 70k ethnic Germans in Danzig

Any hard proof besides hearsay and wishful thinking?

>Hitler unified the part of Czechoslovakia inhabited by Germans into the Reich, and recognized the ethnically Czech portion as an autonomous state.

An autonomous state under german rule. A step too far after taking the sudetenland and splitting the slovaks from the czechs. Strategically sound as a way to prevent commies from using it as a springboard though.

>Italy had no army until 1860, and was still getting their shit together. They performed as well as could possibly be expected of them considering their experience and resources.

Japan fared much better while being more backwards and having less experience fighting western armies and modernising later.

abb598  No.11655460

File: a57157957934bc5⋯.png (296.1 KB, 604x445, 604:445, Off duty.png)


Not entierly true. Trucks were always in short supply, and mechanical losses were often higher than replacement rates. They were also outnumbered in the air 4/1, tanks 3/1.

Romanian oil was more than enough to fill the fuel tanks, but the problem was that the Soviets were far more powerful than anticipated. Guderian had convinced the OKH that there resided only 10'000 tanks across the border. The actual figure was closer to 20'000. Everything that went wrong after '41 simply has to do with the fact that the Germans miscalculated their position.

41dc38  No.11656026


>being this blatant of a kike

No, the camps were not all kikes. In fact, most 'people' in them were not. By the way, we know giant crematoriums did not exist.

Notice how this kike lied about Churchill's instigation of the war against Germany. Why would he do that? Notice all the contradictions in his post. First, he makes the outlandish claim that Churchill had no power despite the facts in the post he replied to dispelled that already. Then he says England supported Germany (kikes feel the need to fully all Whites) until they suddenly declared war for no apparent reason. The kike wants you to believe this makes more sense.


This seems like the true folly.

19862f  No.11656063


>Japan fared much better while being more backwards and having less experience fighting western armies and modernising later.

Well, Italians by their national character were not well suited to the rigours and demands of the WW1-to-WW2 style of warfare. Individually very brave and capable, but not as disciplinable as the Japs. In modern hybrid/semi-guerilla warfare they should perform much better, IF they have good leadership.

a25029  No.11656397


Despite the memes, the US population were neutral until pearl harbor. The US govt was not. (Embargoes, attacking axis ships)

1bba10  No.11658429

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See this could have been a war winning move. '41 was the time to win. No shifting forces around. Especially Panzer armies. Push, push, push. Kinda what i was getting at in my posts.

Hitler was an idiot getting mad at Rundstedt. There was no incompetence on Rundstedts part. AG South hit serious opposition and was slowed down compared to the other AGs. Panzers should have stayed north and center. 2-3 months of gains were lost.

e93a1c  No.11658957

File: e28ac778043955a⋯.jpg (176.21 KB, 595x650, 119:130, Powstanie_Warszawskie_film….jpg)


>[Citation needed]



>Poles were massacring Germans on purpose to drag Germany into war

[Citation needed]

>Sure thing, it certainly wasn't (((them))), eh commie


>Kek anon, at least show some knowledge. He was the first lord of the admiralty. Head of the British Navy

Effectively a nobody, because what are you and >>11656026

>Notice how this kike lied about Churchill's instigation of the war against Germany

- implying? That he false flagged the fucking Battle of London? Lol.

e93a1c  No.11659034


>Then he says England supported Germany (kikes feel the need to fully all Whites) until they suddenly declared war for no apparent reason

Just how stupid are you?

e93a1c  No.11659098


>Be Poland invade Germany

According to legend, when Poland invaded Germany Hitler locked himself inside his room four weeks at disbelief.

383325  No.11659881

File: 3f0f03f22b63cb9⋯.jpg (300.64 KB, 919x1227, 919:1227, 3f0f03f22b63cb955e1f42125f….jpg)


>Be Poland invade Germany

So dropping a piece of land was all that it took Hitler to be baited?

Germany should have turned isolationist and not recover / """"invade"""" Poland nor any other place, for a few more years.


Because an alliance was necessary to bring the inevitable war. And Hitler didn't play well his cards. Not approaching USA (or believing it would be neutral, when Jewnited States of America was already zion-controlled) was a big mistake on his part.


>Germany under attack

Defending your people inside your borders is reasonable. Declaring war to Poland and France was not. It was badly played.

Declaring war to USA was also a big mistake.

Stop trying to paint it as Hitler did nothing wrong. If not, we wouldn't be here fighting the pharisee.

Natsoc Germany should have waited a few more years until nuclear research was done, AND until a proper alliance was held in place.

If a few more years had passed, the superior atomic bomb would have been enough deterrent to stop any jewish outside force.

Don't forget that the Manhattan Project was basically jewish ex-german traitors selling german tech to USA.

Had Hitler gassed these people, or had he somehow (by methos i already detailed in this thread) delayed WWII a few more years, the war would have been won.

855263  No.11659959


Now this is just pure retardation

8cdc64  No.11660025


I'll take David Irving's word and sources over yours.

262d03  No.11661280

What many people forget is that the Polacks actually did a ethnic cleansing on ethnic Germans living in Poland, of course, pushed by a (((certain agenda))) to infuriate the German People and kickstart the war.

970a06  No.11661430


Why did the Japs conquer Israel? What did they possibly have to gain?

9d330e  No.11661444


>on USSR plans to attak Germany

USSR was without a doubt planning an attack on Germany at some point, some speculate the attack was going to take place as early as July of 1941, "Operation Thunderstorm", which was a real Soviet plan for an invasion of Germany in 1941 - for more info on this search Viktor Suvorov's book "Icebreaker", or watch this:


>on death tolls

Some claim up to 30 million dead for the soviets - Stalin claimed 5 million dead or missing in 1945. Actual figure is unknown, but that is probably about accurate. Early in the war it was more like 10 to 1 until the Soviets finally haulted the Germans front of moscow.


this one is bullshit - Germans had either 60 or 80 millions citizens, people in occupied territories dont really count as they didn't really fight for the Germans in the East. The most surprising aspect of the eastern front to the german soldiers and commanders was how many reserve units, even fresh armored formations the soviets seemingly pulled out of nowhere - they drafted almost every man that could walk into the army and threw them between the Germans and Moscow, so yes they had a huge advantage due to population. One interesting statistic rarely brought up is the tank losses ratio, which was normally nearly 5:1 or sometimes more, for example in 1942 the Germans destroyed 15,000 soviet tanks, and lost 2,600 - imagine destroying nearly 100,000 soviet tanks over the course of the war and losing? rough.

otherwise everything else is pretty much true I think.

6ede7f  No.11661462



At the war memorial in Staliangrad you can see the commisars sitting behind the lines with a pistol pointed at soviet soldiers. Deserters were shot.

9d330e  No.11661498



>Defending your people inside your borders is reasonable. Declaring war to Poland and France was not. It was badly played.

Hitler did not declare war on France, they declared war on Germany. Also, Hitler spent something like 9 months negotiating with Poland for the Danzig corridor, even going so far as to offer large prime pieces of upper Silesia rich with coal which the Poles had been after for years, even negotiated with the Weimar gov. for it, (and were denied) to allow the Germans to declare Danzig "a german city" (poles would still have some control of the city and receiving some taxes, etc.), He was asking for a "corridor" 12 miles wide, full of German speaking ethnic Germans, and the Poles would not budge, because they knew England was backing them, and as we know ((England)) wanted this war to happen, very very badly.

>Natsoc Germany should have waited a few more years until nuclear research was done, AND until a proper alliance was held in place.

nuclear bombs were not really a large consideration in 1939, the Americans spent billions and years of research with the worlds smartest scientists to create it, and did not build Los Alamos until 1943. Germany was not at all close to having a working bomb, and only in the beginning stages of nuclear research when the war began, not much effort or research was spent on it. but i agree with you, if they had known the power of it, you are correct.

9d330e  No.11661518


really? you have a pic of that? - yes deserters were certainly shot, but a majority of soviet citizens and red army soldiers wanted to fight and did so extremely courageously, in "the great patriotic war". wouldn't you fight if an army invaded your country and were killing your comrades and family members? I would.

9d330e  No.11661556



>They were enemy civilians.

Not really, most of the "citizens"/peasants were horribly mistreated by the communists who had starved them, mistreated them horribly, and lost many family members during the holomodor etc., Germans were greeted as liberators at first, and the German soldiers treated the civilians well for the most part, German soldiers on the whole were very honorable soldiers, but the German high command policy was to subjugate them, committed many "reprisals" on villages of innocent people after partisan attacks, etc. - this turned any good will they made have had to hatred.

of course there will always be partisans, but if they had acted as liberators (as a policy from the top), MANY soviet citizens would have certainly joined the Germans and helped quell the partisans and fight the red army.

9d330e  No.11661572



>desperate Poland to seek help from Natsoc Germany

you should seek help for this post.

c68a70  No.11662079

File: c6b5928dbd5813c⋯.jpg (154.54 KB, 600x509, 600:509, 1507354535249.jpg)

File: 650db66d8bbe40c⋯.jpg (88.82 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 1507355532784.jpg)

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>"If Europe today finds itself the victim of a serious illness, then the affected countries will either have to overcome it by summoning their entire and utmost power of resistance, or they will be doomed" Adolf Hitler 1945

If you want to understand WW2 from Hitler's point of view you must read: "Mein Kampf the Second Book", "Hitler's War" by David Irving and "Hitler's Table Talks"

and this essay is the most revealing thing you will ever read


here's my account of WW2, i will try to make it as objective as i can

1939: Hitler orders the Gleiwitz false-flag as a justification to invade Poland, he invaded Poland because he wanted to save Germans who were being ethnically cleansed (Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau), he was worried about being encircled by France's allies (Poland and Czechoslovakia) and so wanted to get rid of an enemy and he wanted living space for the German people.

Hitler launched his invasion under the belief that the western powers could not retaliate because they were still re-arming themselves and Hitler entered into the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as another security against the west. during the invasion after it became clear that the western powers were going to war, his plan was then to grab as much Polish territory as possible and then sign a peace treaty, but the Western powers refused to make peace.

1940: Poland has been split between Germany and the USSR, Hitler moves his armies to west and invades the Netherlands to and invades France through Belgium, the French armies move into Belgium to meet him, but Hitler pushes through the Ardennes with his armored divisions and gets an encirclement on the British and French armies which are pushed back to Dunkirk, France capitulates and Hitler stops his armored divisions from attacking Dunkirk and lets the British troops go because he wants to make a peace treaty with Britain because he sees that Britain would lose its empire if it continues the war in Europe. Britain instead chooses to continue the war and invades Norway in an attempt to stop Germany from getting iron from Sweden, but Germany beats Britain to it and invades Denmark and Norway.

1941: With the allies driven out of Europe and Scandinavia secured the only threat now is the Soviet Union, Germany was particularly vulnerable to a Soviet attack because Romanian oilfields that fuel germany's armored divisions border the Soviet Union and Europe's high infrastructure would have allowed Soviet tanks to roll right through Europe. and so anticipating a Soviet attack, Hitler invaded first, and you must imagine that the Soviets worked only on tactical brutality, the Soviets would have invaded Europe if they had the opportunity

Hitler declared war on America in 1941, he did it because America was arming itself for war and so American entry was inevitable, Hitler had read the Polish ambassadors documents (See below), America had been funding Germany's enemies, American ships were attacking and detaining German U-boats and merchant ships and Roosevelt and Churchill plotted together to sink an American ship and blame it on German U-boats (see JFK's Dad, Joseph Kennedy). I highly recommend the essay linked below, it is the most revealing thing you will ever read

To anyone who wants to understand the reasons for America and the Allies involvement in the war you must read the documents written by the Polish Ambassadors in 1938


Further Reading:

(Last Speech)


(Last Political Testament)


(Declaration of War on America)


(Declaration of War on USSR)


a80eb8  No.11662351


>He wanted to free Germany territory and people, defeat an arch-enemy of the German people (still today). If that involved occupying the enemy’s territory, so what. Germany didn’t annex Poland.

Yeah, he just occupies them instead the smart guy.

Didn't know Warsaw is german territory.

1f90ff  No.11662390




>there were no Polish people living in the Corridor

>annexing a large part of my country

Yes, polish nationality does not exist. Only subgermans/german cattle :^)


Yes that's German founded city like Kraków, Poznań, Toruń and any other city in Poland. At least by his (lack of) logic,

a80eb8  No.11662396


His only argument will be kike and shill and/or bluepill, just watch.

I really doubt these posters are even germans, they are PURE LARPers.

18a560  No.11662427

File: 4f0002056409d98⋯.jpg (70.52 KB, 800x526, 400:263, Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-G….jpg)


Like him or damn him, it does look like that Hitler and the nazis were a tool in the hands of Germany's enemies, even though they were completely unaware of this. It doesn't mean that national socialism is somehow flawed, but it does mean that they were never meant to win this war.

18a560  No.11662431

File: 8669c24bb5f37af⋯.jpg (49.95 KB, 800x570, 80:57, Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-698….jpg)




Is cross-board posting disabled?

18a560  No.11662432


No, I just can't type.

c68a70  No.11662438


i doubt that hitler was really a secret zionist agent, if you study him closely, everything he did was for the sake of the german people, if he was an agent wouldn't he just have started a bolshevik revolution instead? why would he try to build up his country if it was all destined to fall down?

18a560  No.11662557


I mean that he too was a tool who didn't know that he was being used.

13c23c  No.11664839


The goal was to lead the German military into certain death. The kikes were just killing off as many goys as possible.

1e7e04  No.11664899


>Hitler was your worst enemy goyim!

You're not even trying Moishe.

1e7e04  No.11664910


They're shills bud.

f96280  No.11664966


>The “Gleiwitz incident” is nowhere mentioned in contemporary, Hitler time Germany, nor press, nor film

Why the hell would they mention it, idiot? Are you saying the jews would admit to 9/11, too? The nazis confessed to this during trial, it fit accurately with Polish report.

1e7e04  No.11664982


Mmm the Jews didn't admit to 911 but they sure took advantage of it. Why didn't Germany attempt to take any advantage of their alleged false flag?

9ec78a  No.11667947


Their government was jewed prior to WW1.

The bolsheviks had influence over the government of Poland prior to WWII.

Poles killed lots of Germans as they were ordered to under their Zionist occupied government, Germans killed lots of Poles in self defense.

After that, Ukranians killed lots more Poles under Hitler and then again under Soviet rule.

9ec78a  No.11668028


That's exactly what it was about.

The ground troops of Eastern and Western Europe were all white.

Russians, Czechs, Ukranians, Poles, etc were fighting the so called Ally countries.

Poland and Ukraine were allied at one point and then subverted again by jews so thy ended up killing each other by the millions. Then there was the Katyn massacre. The jews convinced Poland that Hitler was behind it until the truth came out after the Cold War that Bolsheviks ordered the killing of Polish intellectuals.

a64ffd  No.11668043


>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

Of course. Fascist Europe would have been a paradise, and we would still live in it today.

a64ffd  No.11668052

File: 2a10a8145a55f36⋯.png (789.73 KB, 3840x2160, 16:9, 1476228807974.png)


Just imagine pic related Europe.

42fba7  No.11670060


>being so naive

Hitler dreamed of a Greater Germany uniting all Germans. If you are so naive to think that America and the USSR would have had no problem with the existence of fascist states like Germany and Italy then you really are stupid.

1b3407  No.11670079


>Because it was supposed to be used as justification for war.

>Fact is, it was never used to justify the war

So you don't know the details, yet you're compelled to speak. The Polish army caught them out, idiot.

>Do you have brain damage?

Great answer for a Nazi genius.

>Logic does not apply to “nazis and their heinous crimes”, they are just evil incarnate, everything is true the allies claim and if you disagree then we smash your head, because we are the “good guys” and “freedom”

So where's the logic? I don't see any.

1b3407  No.11670088




>So you don't know the details, yet you're compelled to speak. The Polish army caught them out, idiot

a44d2e  No.11670247


Why don't you zip and torrent the important stuff? We wanna learn faggot

1e7e04  No.11670328


Wasted dubs.

There is no proof Gleiwitz was a false flag set up by the Germans, and we have zero motives for them to do so. They had plenty of legitimate reasons for declaring that war, including over 40 border incursions ala Gleiwitz. The Polish army caught them out? So fucking what? The Polish army has no power to influence the German media who is supposed to support this false flag. And Hitler does certainly not care if any foreign media picks up on a story since they have been running 10 such stories a day for over a decade already. It would be like Trump worrying about CNN putting out their daily hit piece. Yeah he's shitting his pants and will totally change his war plans because of it.

Gleiwitz is just another piece of allied propaganda trying to pin their war on Germany and Hitler. All your so called evidence for this plot are affidavits extracted at fucking Nuremberg. It's such a typical story to push you must be a shill or a complete idiot.

6276ce  No.11670756


> One interesting statistic rarely brought up is the tank losses ratio, which was normally nearly 5:1 or sometimes more, for example in 1942 the Germans destroyed 15,000 soviet tanks, and lost 2,600 - imagine destroying nearly 100,000 soviet tanks over the course of the war and losing? rough.

Most of that is because of casualty overestimation on the part of the Germans and that the Soviets had really odd definitions for things.

ae9f04  No.11671509


Does /leftypol/ have a source for the 100 million exterminated? Have never heard anyone take this claim seriously and I don't know where it originated.

ea17be  No.11671609

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>and we have zero motives for them to do so

Caucus beli for the war.

>they had plenty of legitimate reasons for declaring that war, including over 40 border incursions ala Gleiwitz

Name them.

>the Polish army has no power to influence the German media who is supposed to support this false flag

>Hitler does certainly not care if any foreign media picks up on a story since they have been running 10 such stories a day for over a decade already

Getting a little carried away there. The German media didn't report on it because the American correspondents whom they summoned knew the Germans were full of shit.

>all your so called evidence for this plot are affidavits extracted at fucking Nuremberg


<the Polish army had records of this incident

<the Americans were there at the scene

<and the Germans who were involved in it confessed to it being true, giving us multiple accounts of the incident

…and that Isn't proof?


>you say that as if that would be a bad thing. Do you know were your are?

<it's a good thing I'm acting like an internet tough guy and not providing evidence

OK, Nazi genius.

ae9f04  No.11671664

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Until the bombings of Westphal and the Rhineland, the Reich hadn't had any history of targeting civilian targets. After those bombings, more than two months past before any significant military action was even taken.

The thousands of ethnic germans were being displaced from Danzig through the 20s and dropping of leaflets outlining future annexation of German land all happened prior to the Reich's invasion.

Furthermore, everyone of his proposals to end the polish persecution was turned down. He had every choice of whether or not to invade, and he did so to try and save and secure what was left of the germans there.

1e7e04  No.11672019


Your sole source for this fantasy is a guy named Alfred who turned himself over to the allies claiming he was an Austrian anti Nazi. 0 Then he provided them with convenient "evidence" that nobody else in the SD knew about. Saying the American correspondents knew they were full of shit is especially fabulous considering American papers, New York Times included printed the story, while the German papers did not. The only German papers that even mentioned it did so in connection to the other 40 or so incursions, by irregular troops, which Hitler mentioned in his speech. That together with the Polish mobilization on August 30th and the continuing massacres of German civilians in Poland were all the cassus belli they would ever need to start a war. Trump could start a war in 5 minutes with that type of justification. That pic you posted is a forgery, read Udo Walendy.

95c0e3  No.11672106

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Don't forget German engineers of the 3rd Reich invented the jet airplane.

this short video shows a Messerschmitt Me 262 during Flying Display - both from inside of the cockpit and from outside on take-off and in the sky.

Awespme technology - superlative tech for the year 1944.

4f38a3  No.11672180


hitler hated the Me 262 for some damn reason. They had it ready earlier on in the war.

e5a962  No.11672185


Probably the scalability and supply chain was poor compared to simpler variants

ea17be  No.11672245

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Tell me, why would German newspapers print this if it didn't go according to plan? They knew Americans didn't buy into it, they were testing reception, so why would they go on with it if they knew they were going to be called out? The plan would serve to do opposite of what they were planning, what you're proposing is dumb.

>the other 40 or so incursions, by irregular troops, which Hitler mentioned in his speech

So where is the proof?

>that together with the Polish mobilization on August 30th

So? Hitler wanted to attack on August 24th, originally, we were on alert because of incidents like this, and we most likely had Intel.

>and the continuing massacres of German civilians in Poland

Still haven't provided proof of that either.

985b55  No.11672290


They didn't "killed" everyone who was in their way, you retarded?

985b55  No.11672301


kike,stop he is right!

778fca  No.11672355



10k missing Germans, where are the Germans, Pooland?

ea17be  No.11672385


Your word isn't proof, Gaymany.

778fca  No.11672438


Where are the 60k missing Germans?

95c0e3  No.11672512

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Coincidently critics usually say Hitler hated the advanced military rifle known as the StG 44 or Sturmgewehr 44, history's first assault rifle, something else German engineers of the 3rd Reich invented. Yet it was none other than Hitler himself who is said to have named the rifle "Sturmgewehr".

I wonder if Hitler really hated the best innovative weapons, and if so, where the evidence of such unlikely reactions by him to advances and ballistic advantages actually is.

Here's a two minute shooting demo of the WW2 German progenitor of AK-47s, M-16s, Uzis, FNs, and all the rest.

cc52cd  No.11672557


Source on that? I thought they called it MP44 because Hitler didn't like the idea of assault rifle.

And Uzi are machine pistol/SMG, not assault rifle.

42fba7  No.11672680


The rebels in Syria opened crates full of these. What a waste.

855263  No.11672887


That's complete utter bullshit. The whole defence plan on the western in 1944 relied on it. The problem was that Hitler had told them that he wanted an attack bomber and was told that it was gonna be one. His plan was to supress the beach head with jet bomber that theey couldnt shoot down and then just cruch the landing at the beach. Read Irving!

a33cc0  No.11673080



Both are true. Before the war Hitler wanted every rifleman to be a sniper and didn't approve of developing a new rifle. However once he saw the MP44 in action he loved it and understood it's value. He wanted to re-equip the whole army with them, but the limit was ammo production and logistics. Even if they had been adopted in 1934 it would have been impossible to make effective use of them because they just couldn't make enough ammo and get it to the troops.

a33cc0  No.11673085


They were outnumbered by more than that.

The Germans made about 12k tanks. The US and Russia made 50k each. They lost because they were outnumbered 10 to 1.

1dd53c  No.11673097

Consider this: Italy ruined fucking everything.

8cdc64  No.11673137


>Read Irving!

This forever.

855263  No.11673140


I know Göring said that they would probably have won the war if they didnt have the italians on their side.

338eac  No.11673567


> Imagine what the outcome would've been had Germany been rather Isolationist in military terms, similar to the US.

The biggest strategic difference in doctrine was because of terrain. From Berlin to Moscow there are almost 0 natural barriers.

To fight in eastern Europe, you literally have to be moving at all times or you lose initiative. This is why the Polish, Germans, and Soviets kept to a more mobile doctrine. You either advanced or you lost, period. Brits and Americans actually had fairly solid doctrines of their own that proved effective but also relied on their relative isolation for supply. Total war is total war, the men fighting will only ever be a piece of the insanely complex dance between resources, industry, and politics.

Also, you need resources. Trucks, tanks, halftracks, and everything else rely on oil. This is something Germany just didn't have.

Contrast that with the western powers, the French actually had a fairly solid defensive strategy that made perfect sense for their territory. A lot of their best troops were on the Belgian border because they did expect an attack. Their tanks, artillery, and air strategy were solid (their artillery units were especially well regarded) but command and control was garbage. They expected (somewhat reasonably) that it would be another bloody slog but German doctrine was based heavily on communication and initiative, both of which the French lacked.

The Soviets would've fallen apart if not for the US and UK basically building their entire communications and supply lines. However, they weren't exactly hurting for raw material despite having an inefficient economy. The Germans had the opposite problem.

a54e04  No.11691149

File: 23c4595c17d9ae7⋯.jpg (101.58 KB, 962x691, 962:691, JU-87 Over Stalingard.jpg)


Nothing against your comment, for which is mostly accurate.

But could we have a discussion about the lend lease? Does anybody know the exact amount of material shipped over for the Soviet Union, or else can point toward a credible source in relation to tonnage? WW2 buffs readings this thread will no doubt have come toward their own conclusions based upon their own research. However, has the allied contribution toward the only communist state in Europe ever been accurately quantified?

e1821e  No.11699426

File: 5b88940dbc0ed87⋯.jpg (72.25 KB, 564x832, 141:208, 48cfcf03e5c84310f86c37b9b2….jpg)


Please give us a Megaupload link for some of these. This is an amazing collection.

e1821e  No.11699429

File: 8a72fcf1b4fb010⋯.jpg (154.93 KB, 1882x1050, 941:525, 88858f75169076a842b72f6e71….jpg)

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File: 5ebf0a616f9299a⋯.jpg (65.71 KB, 540x379, 540:379, C4-0eIhWQAIwY1H.jpg)

dumping some of my collection

e1821e  No.11699432

File: ce745bc5da302b4⋯.jpg (42.92 KB, 540x336, 45:28, C4-0oGLWAAAddsy.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699433

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e1821e  No.11699434

File: ec35d3c411dd0d4⋯.jpg (67.94 KB, 429x611, 33:47, C4-y-jmW8AAeddA.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699437

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e1821e  No.11699440

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e1821e  No.11699443

File: 39a6b1cd93ee4d7⋯.jpg (178.48 KB, 1200x744, 50:31, C49dwCxW8AEXJwA.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699444

File: 9fc32db7fbe3f7b⋯.jpg (148.36 KB, 1200x768, 25:16, C49d0B3WEAEie-3.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699446

File: 83ef7bae25f8e88⋯.jpg (169.16 KB, 1200x813, 400:271, C5ZIcCMWUAAe6h9.jpg)

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File: dae3a0ea34bcc17⋯.jpg (100.05 KB, 1008x678, 168:113, C5ZITw0WAAA6yc1.jpg)

>>11699444 (checked)

e1821e  No.11699449

File: a7892afcd338d72⋯.jpg (54.4 KB, 480x480, 1:1, C5ZHnhAWQAEot2s.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699450

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e1821e  No.11699452

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e1821e  No.11699458

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e1821e  No.11699461

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e1821e  No.11699462

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e1821e  No.11699464

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e1821e  No.11699466

File: df7124d1f0b3d61⋯.jpg (113.22 KB, 736x1059, 736:1059, C5ZbWcbXEAAluI9.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699467

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e1821e  No.11699472

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e1821e  No.11699474

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e1821e  No.11699479

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e1821e  No.11699483

File: c7d2c13ca5f17ba⋯.jpg (81.43 KB, 500x714, 250:357, C5YBf_bWcAQBfS2.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699486

File: 5d35f697829b518⋯.jpg (64.9 KB, 800x464, 50:29, C5UBSP8WIAIOJic.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699488

File: b5fe8c879493887⋯.jpg (43.7 KB, 352x539, 32:49, C5UBdsOXUAA52W1.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699493

File: 4c1f33dc12d54ba⋯.jpg (119.87 KB, 1200x791, 1200:791, C5UA02xWMAAfLGf.jpg)

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>>11699488 (heil'd)

e1821e  No.11699496

File: 90826c4dfda1975⋯.jpg (38.32 KB, 500x469, 500:469, C5EuH8_XUAAmNOp.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699499

File: dac23892e8c5ed3⋯.jpg (172.23 KB, 1200x874, 600:437, C5dI4ScXMAE2wmw.jpg)

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613792  No.11699578

File: 34ce0fa319730d7⋯.png (162.78 KB, 538x558, 269:279, 1431088199929.png)


>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Yes, he should have just let the commies keep raping and murdering the German people so that kikes like you wouldn't say shit like this 80 years later. Kill yourself Schlomo.

cff2a4  No.11699590


Germany could not wait for the Soviets to build up their military. Waiting a few more years and they would have been completely out matched.

cff2a4  No.11699613


The idiots who say that kind of shit don't really understand the geopolitical situation of the time. They think Germany could have just been isolationist and everything would have worked out, which is fucking retarded.

2527a5  No.11710032


Memel was taken from Lithuania before armed conflict began.

2527a5  No.11710040


The Polish government was not communist. Communists got to rape and murder Germans as a direct consequence of Hitler's actions.

Both of these statements are objectively true.

3cd66d  No.11710042

File: 201a7f2b7fceebf⋯.jpg (409.93 KB, 1517x1752, 1517:1752, Spanish_soldiers_on_a_raft….jpg)

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File: 0ebadb5bd296823⋯.jpg (109.25 KB, 677x960, 677:960, bb9a6bc6bd6350a0e173d8e733….jpg)

Do not forget the Spanish men who volunteered for fight for the Axis in the northern cold of Russia.

"To troops, the Spaniards are a crew of ragamuffins. They regard a rifle as an instrument that should not be cleaned under any pretext. Their sentries exist only in principle. They don't take up their posts, or, if they do take them up, they do so in their sleep. When the Russians arrive, the natives have to wake them up. But the Spaniards have never yielded an inch of ground. One can't imagine more fearless fellows. They scarcely take cover. They flout death. I know, in any case, that our men are always glad to have Spaniards as neighbours in their sector" - Adolf Hitler

e1821e  No.11710810

File: 49a6b1af406b91b⋯.jpg (203.15 KB, 1200x930, 40:31, C5dIvA3XMAAr1GS.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11710816

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e1821e  No.11710822

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e1821e  No.11710824

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aefe40  No.11712282


neither poland nor chezcoslovakia were communist. not even close actually

e1821e  No.11714250

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e1821e  No.11714251

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e1821e  No.11714253

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e1821e  No.11714254

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e1821e  No.11714257

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e1821e  No.11714258

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e1821e  No.11714261

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e1821e  No.11714264

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e1821e  No.11714265

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e1821e  No.11714266

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e1821e  No.11714269

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e1821e  No.11714270

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e1821e  No.11714271

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e1821e  No.11714272

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e1821e  No.11714273

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e1821e  No.11714274

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baac9a  No.11714276

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e1821e  No.11714277

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e1821e  No.11714280

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e1821e  No.11714282

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e1821e  No.11714284

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e1821e  No.11714287

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e1821e  No.11714289

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e1821e  No.11714290

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e1821e  No.11714291

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e1821e  No.11714298

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e1821e  No.11714300

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e1821e  No.11714302

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e1821e  No.11714305

File: c893da395c4f130⋯.jpg (51.4 KB, 500x599, 500:599, C5h4cf6WYAAvfL4.jpg)

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aefe40  No.11715981


germany was literally running out of quality iron for the war.

alot of the ore in the last two years was mined in shit quality german mines that were only opened by NSDAP in the 30s to create work on domsestic soil.

aefe40  No.11715988

File: 8e1b8df20d4686e⋯.jpg (115.66 KB, 780x557, 780:557, Jews_7593f1_4633329.jpg)



>where are the 10k

>where did the 60k go?

are you shitposting?

aefe40  No.11737881


letters as in documents or as in alphabet?

because the font they used was Tannenber Fett.

as for documents just google anything like "nazi documents"

dd8bfb  No.11748062

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Adolf Hitler's Speech On Operation Barbarossa

" Adolf Hitler's FULL excerpt on Operation Barbarossa. October 3rd 1941.

Historians have debated whether Stalin was planning an invasion of German territory in the summer of 1941. In the 1980s when Viktor Suvorov published a journal article and later the book Icebreaker in which he stated that Stalin had seen the outbreak of war in western Europe as an opportunity to spread communist revolutions throughout the continent, and that the Soviet military was being deployed for an imminent attack at the time of the German invasion. This view had also been advanced by former German generals following the war. Suvorov's thesis was fully or partially accepted by some historians, including Valeri Danilov, Joachim Hoffmann, Mikhail Meltyukhov and Vladimir Nevezhin.

The fiercest battles of World War Two took place along the Eastern Front. The Front reached back to Germany through the Soviet Union, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, the Balkans, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, and the Baltic States. Throughout these sombre landscapes, where Europe’s best gave their lives to free Europe from the scourge of the Bolshevik-London-Washington DC alliance."


9ee875  No.11760196

antislide is prowhite

60c707  No.11760268

File: 376cf680ec261fa⋯.png (1003.45 KB, 596x845, 596:845, british_free_corps_by_wolf….png)


What was the truth surrounding the British Free Corps?

(((Post-war propaganda))) states that they were just womanizing cowards, but I find that to be quite hard to believe, especially with their position within the SS and supposed high rejection rate during recruitment.

68db45  No.11781585


a761a5  No.11781772


The Soviets claimed about 95% of their logistical vehicles were imported, that doesn't say what the limit to their vehicle pool would have been if they had relied on domestic manufacture but it tells you how much of a burden was taken off of them by the aid. Without aid they would have lost. The Germans couldn't have taken Britain but without US assistance they would have had to accept a stalemate(even without any imports they would not have been close to starving). If the US for some reason had not come in to assist the USSR or British Empire they would have crushed the Japanese even more completely. The US built more warship tonnage during that war(and frankly newer better ships) than the world including itself had built after 1860. They produced over 500 destroyers and 4 times the number of U-boats as germany and japan combined. There was really nothing that anybody could do to effectively project power against that sort of opposition. There was a boat hiding behind virtually every island in the Pacific and a sub in every strait.

The USSR could have been overwhelmed as they depended upon the importation of steel and finished vehicles to continue their war effort. Britian was simply not something that could be conquered but could have been defeated. The US simply had too great a logistical advantage and too large a merchant marine to interdict. If they wanted to put an army somewhere then that army would be there.

At best Germany could have had an isolated empire and if conciliatory toward Britain would have escaped with its gains. Japan would likely have been treated more harshly(war between the US and Japan was completely inevitable sort of the Japanese accepting a 3rd rate status and never offending them again). The US might have become extremely hostile to Germany unless something different happened politically that alienated everybody from the kikes.

eb2ee7  No.11781863


Go delouse yourself.

f6b85a  No.11781899


> I have no reasonable contra argument so gfy


8a8d22  No.11783093


If you weren't a jew you'd know that Poland's goal for participating in WWII was to preserve the shape of their borders.

Unfortunately Third Reich and USSR split it between each other.

In addition, Poland stopped bolsheviks in 1920, weimar government blocked arms shipments in Gdańsk/Danzig

And Polish-German tensions could've been avoided if Germany either succeeded at germanization and eradication of Polish culture throughout the 123 years of partitions, or not doing it in the first place.

03ecef  No.11783171

File: 6c389c426e5c176⋯.gif (29.32 KB, 250x228, 125:114, _look eric.gif)


Nope. Not original. Just substantial and reasonable one.

d2e18d  No.11785303

File: d9f374f9293547c⋯.png (1.43 MB, 1280x641, 1280:641, d9f374f9293547c249a39f6df5….png)

The war wasn't realistically winnable. There was a very brief window in which the war could be won, only if it was executed 100% perfectly.

Perfect execution of a plan almost never happens in war, and if it does, it's basically divine providence.

But the war had to be waged anyways. Germany was on the chopping block to be destroyed, and Europe with it. The capitalist democracies as always were too short-sighted and too concerned with their own narrow affairs, and so betrayed eachother for a sheckel, and the jew bolsheviks were gearing up to tear European civilization apart.

It may be hard to believe, but this was the best outcome that was reasonably possible.

The Germans bough us time, that's all we could hope for.

There was no avoiding the war, just read any of Churchills own writings on the topic and you'll realize that.

Look at the Soviet invasions of Eastern Europe, including Poland even, and you'll see it was only the beginning of the larger Soviet plan.

Look at what was actually going on in Germany at the time.

What I will add to the discussion/critique of German strategy is that the eastern front was botched at a total strategic and even ideological scale. Koch and the turbo-autist wing of the party (who were mostly strasserist holdovers with connections) were largely responsible for fucking up the governing of the eastern provinces. Most of the Ukranian people would have been happy to join the SS and go fight the Soviets, who had only just subjected them to the holdomor. Maybe not a deciding factor in the war, but a practical example of how the purity obsessed pseudo-communist interpretation of National Socialism is a self-defeating and short-shortsightedly stupid way to conduct politics.

f88dae  No.11785358

File: ff1166458a2d5c3⋯.jpg (485.41 KB, 1725x900, 23:12, 1507436141908.jpg)

File: 872aa68a04f733f⋯.png (365.75 KB, 752x587, 752:587, 1507434725913.png)

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File: 89110a51fac984a⋯.jpg (423.43 KB, 1212x1445, 1212:1445, The truth about WW2.jpg)

It seems you fucking retards need to research more before you post your stupid opinions. At least read 'Hitler's War'.

f88dae  No.11785402

File: f6bae8d0f99e16b⋯.jpg (742.52 KB, 1299x865, 1299:865, Himmler.jpg)


>The war wasn't realistically winnable. There was a very brief window in which the war could be won, only if it was executed 100% perfectly.

False. Had Hitler not been merciful to the eternal anglo during Dunkirk, than he would have invaded Britain to score a victory. It would not have been easy or quick, but it would have been done. Should be a lesson to us, have no mercy.

>Most of the Ukranian people would have been happy to join the SS and go fight the Soviets, who had only just subjected them to the holdomor. Maybe not a deciding factor in the war, but a practical example of how the purity obsessed pseudo-communist interpretation of National Socialism is a self-defeating and short-shortsightedly stupid way to conduct politics.

<goys, maybe national socialism isn't really a good thing! it is a pseudo communist european style socialism! oy vey it's self defeating! There was no way to be won!

Ukranians did fight and volunteer, moron.


>And Polish-German tensions could've been avoided if Germany either succeeded at germanization and eradication of Polish culture throughout the 123 years of partitions, or not doing it in the first place.

You do realize the Polish-German tensions have been going on WAAAY earlier before WW2 started, right? There were reports of priest calling Germans dogs and that it would not be a sin to kill one. Poles hate Germany for many stupid reasons, and it all culminated to poles starting to genocide Germans in Danzig. That part belonged to Germany pre-WW1 and was taken rightfully. Hitler's plan was to get back all territories lost, it just made it easier to take since the poles were acting like niggers.

f88dae  No.11785414

File: c1d10c4ade7b301⋯.png (26.23 KB, 533x622, 533:622, (((redditor))).png)


>t. shlomo Goldenstein

d2e18d  No.11789896


Stop being defensive and read.

400,000 men is significant but wasn't the reason for losing the war.

The Ukranians joined up early on in large numbers. Koch's government intentionally fucked the country up. I'm criticizing the strasserists, who were thrown out of the party en masse during the night of the long knives. If there was any mercy that caused problems later on, it was not throwing them all out. They're NazBol goons who distort the socialist element as well as the racial element into absurd turbo autism that becomes nonsensical and self-defeating.

3e55cc  No.11789918

File: 32ae150bc0f3540⋯.jpg (11.56 KB, 150x217, 150:217, ns4.jpg)


>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

Dresden was the shining jewel in Germania's crown and I hope the ghost's of it's apoplectic dead haunt the dreams of the British dreams for the rest of all time.

2bd355  No.11809985


>What many people forget is that the Polacks actually did a ethnic cleansing on ethnic Germans living in Poland

I have yet to see any evidence of this presented in this thread or anywhere. Greentexts and one scene from TGSNT are the only bits I see. Could you provide any documented evidence outside of German newspaper propaganda?



Seriously? That's the same rationale kikes use. "Where did Polish Jews go if they weren't killed with diesel exhaust and buried in mass graves then dug up and cremated just in time for a camp uprising?"

60098b  No.11810005

52b3ce  No.11810081

File: 2bd136236d97fba⋯.jpg (36.84 KB, 446x700, 223:350, 375681ebfd45469ddf2af5c7ec….jpg)

52b3ce  No.11810091

File: ac235859b5a6d62⋯.jpg (128.06 KB, 991x765, 991:765, s_w21_3b24776u.jpg)

eee381  No.11830954


The video is blocked for German IPs. You literally are not allowed to listen to original, historical speeches. This alone is proof enough that truth is on our side. Fuck this clown world.

596079  No.11867608


>everyone who disagrees with me is a commie

596079  No.11867612


here's your free (You)

596079  No.11867623


>poles hat egermany for many stupid reasons

<partitions country

<bans teaching of language

<tries to undermine polish culture


596079  No.11867649


>continuing massacres of german civilians

is this what you stormfags really believe?

the only "massacres" were german militias getting BTFO by the BIG SLAVIC COCK after the start of the war because they wanted to help krauts win

2b0b08  No.11867931


What a load of nonsense.

Frank Whittle invented the Jet engine in the 1930's.

>HURR DURR The Me-262 was ahead of it's time

Yeah, by about 6 months, the Gloster Meteor and P-80 also saw service in WW2.

>HURR DURR Awesome technology

An underpowered jet that had to operate from long, vulnerable runways and whose turbojets would explode if the throttle was opened too quickly because of the low nickel content in the engine alloys.

The Luftwaffe would have been far better served by concentrating on improving the high altitude performance of their existing fighters. The 262 was an expensive and wasteful distraction from the strategic aims of air superiority that achieved nothing at all.

d82d54  No.11868369


542 confirmed kills vs allied aircraft for a loss of 100. This at the time when the allied airpower was overwhelming.

ddbc39  No.11868431



When was this, what battle?

7df576  No.11869087

File: 473c8f7bdaf63bb⋯.jpg (54.46 KB, 720x234, 40:13, Czg0eqJVQAQjrUc.jpg)

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File: 686ca2efaa479cf⋯.jpg (167.79 KB, 518x428, 259:214, dsffs.jpg)


You're a stupid nigger. Learn what truly happened and why. God I hate illiterate kike puppets


Also an illiterate nigger. Read German AARs which are dated and time stamped in red ink. Go read an actual history book not written by you Slavic jew faggots


IDK what you said, but just when slavs speak out of turn.

Funny how if it wasn't for us German Americans which made the bulk of the Infantry sending the inbred physically inferior Slavs money, bombing the shit out of the Fatherland, and fighting harder, tougher, faster and worlds better than you slavic fags, the incompetent Red army, Polish whatever you want to call that rag tag fag shit, and the partisans would have continued to be wiped all over the floor. You're fucking welcome, but it should have been Germany unzogging the US and Britain into fighting the Reds and liberating the Slavs that don't have chink in them and reintegrating them into Nordic, Roman and Hellenic awesomeness.

>big slav cock

Seems like they got their teeth knocked out by a big German cock slapping them in their fugly faces. The got railed out til we got involved. You fought a tiny ass Germany, who at the start of the war had equal and lesser equipment than the reds. You faggots killed your own officers because only a quarter of them had the good idea to get rid of communism which is a shit jew ideology. Millions of slavs dead, should have been the rest of the mutts as well.

It took kike spies getting you the bomb to save you from what would have been the United States rolling over your graves. Or maybe we should have stayed out of the war and let Germany murder all you undesirables.

The one thing you have going for you is that you have a decent amount of white blood, besides that mongoloid shit that muddies all that. Be thankful the Krouts left a little of their seed in your women, or you'd all look like half chinks still.

Do you guys even have a plan to get rid of the Gypsy?

ef8328  No.11869274

File: 526808d572918a5⋯.jpg (194.49 KB, 800x1370, 80:137, 541aac1628eb9c5c405a94abb1….jpg)

can anyone post infographs on the holohoax? my ext. hard drive got corrupted and i lost a lot of it

c4d1ad  No.11871659

File: 3c8dfeb19b9daef⋯.gif (551.85 KB, 315x140, 9:4, mg34 firing.gif)

File: 32d33ead3a18588⋯.jpg (28.2 KB, 400x250, 8:5, ss stg-44.jpg)

Does anyone know where I can download a load of footage from World War 2 without any watermarks?

I've found some but they're very low quality, and I'd like to use some videos of the Germans in combat to use in a bit of OC I'm making.

Thanks in advance

d6852b  No.11871669

The war that taught Soros the joy of theft.

d6852b  No.11871685

File: 75b820422bab4e8⋯.png (496.8 KB, 550x500, 11:10, WWII Reminiscing.png)

It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

debf08  No.11871722


do you genuinely believe you do anything to convince people to hate slavs? I just don't fucking get it. How can a species of people survive based entirely on their ability to deceive and turn people against each other, but still be complete and utter dogshit at doing it? Atleast fucking try to get paid you fucking retard.

04dabb  No.11872080


>Waiting a few more years and they would have been completely out matched.

protip: germans lost anyway.

The better strategy would have been self-defense and not expansionism.

of course that is with the knowledge we now have at hand

Germans should have focused on the cultural war, on spreading german ideology worldwide.

c0fd67  No.11872099

File: 9786509464c29ec⋯.jpg (32.58 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 061.jpg)


>Italy ruined everything

>not the US literally feeding and equipping the commies

das rite goy, those pesky italians are to blame, they're non white anyway so it's obviously their fault

694592  No.11876767


Some good pictures here

c2cebf  No.11897989

File: aad3e31800e30f0⋯.png (2.53 MB, 4000x4000, 1:1, ww21911.png)


aa3a91  No.11899310

File: 524ef3a84d1ad41⋯.webm (317.85 KB, 350x154, 25:11, Elements of the Leibstand….webm)

File: 42e7a01d7aa090d⋯.webm (173.79 KB, 360x190, 36:19, German AT in action durin….webm)

File: 9bedb8ab3964cb6⋯.webm (787.09 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Heroes welcome in Brussel….webm)

File: 1d29855d4592f0b⋯.webm (372.78 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Hitler’s personal guard, ….webm)

File: c22b625703ee346⋯.webm (369.08 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Léon Degrelle being award….webm)


A couple hundred GIF/WebM of WWII

From my WWII folder. There are parts of GIFs then combined full clips of them. https://imgur.com/a/N5RVLJS

For convenient downloading:


aa3a91  No.11899326

File: 2bd5e379ae24245⋯.webm (274.2 KB, 300x200, 3:2, Reichsjugendführer (leade….webm)

File: c22b625703ee346⋯.webm (369.08 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Léon Degrelle being award….webm)

File: ac18f4276ec5796⋯.gif (567.62 KB, 500x281, 500:281, Swastika banners.gif)

File: a7c9d918525a5cb⋯.gif (2.17 MB, 250x187, 250:187, Hans Bernhard, a Waffen SS….gif)

File: 422a63068b4c7bb⋯.gif (1.47 MB, 260x197, 260:197, Swastika flag mountain WW2.gif)

Do download so its not just me who has this particular set.

7df576  No.11899704

File: a83ee43daa332eb⋯.jpg (946.45 KB, 1920x1280, 3:2, Where's my money.jpg)

1be4a5  No.11899812

File: 837ff815131cdfe⋯.png (193.59 KB, 500x802, 250:401, berlin-gave-me-the-blues-w….png)

File: 9eac252020558b4⋯.jpg (88.71 KB, 960x692, 240:173, community_image_1424452155.jpg)


Men like this have taught real white men the truth about how shitty slavs really are.


>Um, excuse me, do you think you convince people (of something pretty obvious)

You sound like a god damn slav jew.

Slavs are the joke of the white race, even

most of them can't be considered white anymore with all that asian in them.

Add an "e" at the end of slav and maybe then we'll let the mongrels live, if they don't die from lack of breeding, shit tier wars and accidents from doing stupid shit on camera all day for videos labled "3 guys one hammer" and "warning: graphic content" or some shit. Fuck your mongolian mongrel race. You only survived because of the juggernaut that is the white American fighting man

Don't you watch the news? This is a Nazi board!

Heil Hitler!

7df576  No.11899830

File: cf41b62d9445fc0⋯.jpg (29.48 KB, 512x288, 16:9, de3a090e16cf374b7299475363….jpg)


God damn Slavs shitting things up. Slavs are complete faggots. Anons right: you're in the wrong trench mother fucker!


Glad to see more people get it!

694592  No.11926780

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

bfa764  No.11953581

File: 54fa8892cfed371⋯.jpg (1.38 MB, 2134x1024, 1067:512, FinalForm5.jpg)

c97b26  No.11971691

File: d281b42696714cd⋯.jpg (44.25 KB, 526x592, 263:296, d281b42696714cdb3d3c9db38b….jpg)

The start of WWII had nothing to with Poland. Hitler had extracted Germany from the influence of international (read jewish) finance and Germany flourished, setting an example for the world. This could not be allowed to stand. Whether it was Poland or any other of six million reasons the jews were going to start a war.

2b0b08  No.11971705


This. You can even listen to a covertly recorded conversation between Hitler and Von Mannerheim where Hitler expresses his amazement at the sheer extent of Soviet military industrial capacity.

>don't fall for the (((jewtube internet historian))) meme.

4f0e49  No.11972520

File: 921c067bbe8263f⋯.jpg (146.49 KB, 607x599, 607:599, 607px-Daily_Express_FRIDAY….jpg)

File: fd9c53bc4478f50⋯.jpg (170.85 KB, 800x568, 100:71, 800px-Jüdische_Kriegserklä….jpg)

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the jews declared war against germany in 1933, it would have come to a war in any case

4c3cda  No.11972737


Jewish power was not as great then as it is now. And as you and I know, no one joined them in 1933. War with jewish powers was inevitable, I agree. However, Hitler was not some dumbass who helplessly fell into a war. He knew what he was doing and intentionally allowed Germany to be drawn into a war.

And what kind of war was this? He allowed Germany to be drawn into a war with TWO naval superpowers without any means of actually defeating them. Oh and by the way, Hitler foolishly declared war on America, the second naval superpower. At least he had the means to bomb Britain. He couldn't even touch America.

The jews worked night and day to get people to hate Germany. They worked night and day to whip up hysteria and hate propaganda against Germany. They wanted war as soon as possible. Hitler didn't need to help them.

The longer Hitler waited, the stronger his position seemd to get. Fascist parties were propping up everywhere. Another 5 years and Belgium might have flipped. Or perhaps he could have negotiated an alliance with Poland against the USSR. Or at the very least, Hitler could have improved his technological and military situation.

a4b799  No.11972771

File: 855c8f8bfc60e7c⋯.png (2.08 MB, 1600x966, 800:483, checkemwehrmacht.png)





>thirsty lazy niggers wanting free gibs



>I'll make a zip of my Uncle Adolfs

You're too kind anon

b91bd8  No.11993188


2b0b08  No.11993219


>Tfw der Führer will never be the best man at your wedding

8a8d22  No.11993258


>Or perhaps he could have negotiated an alliance with Poland against the USSR

At the very least he could've waited until USSR invades Poland, that'd accomplish the following

>Bad PR for Soviets

>Poland sees that alliance with (((Britain))) is worthless

>UK doesn't have a legitimate reason to declare a war against Third Reich

>Could reclaim danzig not as Ebil gnatzee agressor but a pragmatic getting payment for helping out helpless poles against (((bolshevik menace)))

4c3cda  No.11993313


>Had Hitler not been merciful to the eternal anglo during Dunkirk, than he would have invaded Britain to score a victory.

Oh jesus. This again.

1. 400,000 men with their backs to the wall would fight and fight hard 9as they did)

Trying to destroy them would have cost the Germans dearly… which they couldn't afford because

2. Their supply lines were already stretched to the brink of collapse. They simply couldn't continue pressing on without risking the entire war.

And even so…

3. An invasion of Britain is a ridiculous notion. Germany didn't have a real navy so even if they slaughtered ever single one of those 400,000 men, they never would have reached the UK.

Only armatures believe in wars being won by attrition. War is always about maneuver and seizing important territory, NOT killing people. You could fail to kill a single enemy and still win a war if you managed to seize a strategic region that threatened the enemy.

Hitler did nothing wrong in allowing the British to escape because

1. He couldn't have stopped them anyway


2. He had far more important things to do like capture Paris and force the French to surrender.

Also, if Hitler did invade Britain, the Soviets would have immediately invaded Europe. And will his best men in Britain, the entire German Wehrmacht would have been destroyed and Europe would be completely exterminated.

4c3cda  No.11993323


That would be par excellence diplomacy that would have made Hitler's idol, Otto Von Bismark proud.

c19ef2  No.11993328


>negotiated an alliance with Poland

well during 1933-1938 Poland had good relations with Germany, during that time Poland was considered as German ally (after they together partitioned Czechoslovakia, Poland took Zaolzie since polish people lived there). Everything fucked up when Beck decided that Poland should be ally of colonial supper power Great Britain and not Germany. Even during that time USSR high command only considered in their strategy option when Poland and Germany attack together as allies.

2b0b08  No.11993330


Do you think the Russians weren't thinking about this too? (((Who))) was it that agitated in Poland for the massacre of German nationals in the Danzig Corridor?

ddff0b  No.11993372


Poland didn't partition Czechoslovakia then, we only took Zaolzie after they annexed it in 1919 under German pressure. We only partitioned Czechoslovakia in 1968.

c19ef2  No.11993394


Well you can see it that way but back then every nation seen Poland as copartitionist.

4c3cda  No.11993407


Um… actually Poland did partition Czechoslovakia with Germany back in 1938

ddff0b  No.11993453


Taking a city back isn't partitioning, it's reclamation.


If your outlook if defined by what majority believe then you don't belong here.

4c3cda  No.11993465


>Taking a city back isn't partitioning, it's reclamation.

Okay then. Germany was simply reclaiming Danzig from Poland.

28fa28  No.11993579


No one claimed Germany partitioned Poland during WW2, and Poland didn't hold it, the League of Nations did.

c19ef2  No.11993581


Rather bad example since Danzig/Gdansk was free state (with German majority) represented by Poland in world politics. It's retarded by XX century standards, but it served as thorn in Germany and Poland back since it served as tool to conflict escalation. Better example would be Polish "reclamation" of lower Silesia after WW2. But to end any D&C, I can say that nobody wanted it except Stalin/USSR (Another thorn in Polish-German relations?)


I'm just saying what majority of world seen during that time, not that I support such statement.

28fa28  No.11993630

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


>Better example would be Polish "reclamation" of lower Silesia after WW2

We gave it back most of it though, until the Kaiser imprisoned Piłsudski, so we annexed it again (plus more).

03a144  No.11993654

Do you guys think Stalin was the real winner of the war? it seems he essentially outmaneuvered the other two powers and just played the Axis against the Allies to his benefit.

17e66e  No.11993657

I've said it before and i will keep saying it.

The war against the USSR was unnecessary.

By '41,all of eastern europe hated Russia and was fascist,UK was alone and could not invade Germany,and with no russia,Germany can use it's army to defend the west,stopping USA from actually invading France,implying USA even joins the war anyways.

If Hitler just finished the UK,communism would slowly disappear as fascism becomes more common thanks to the success of Germany.

c19ef2  No.11993749


There would be no "succes of Germany" after 1942. Stalin planned war against whole Europe since communism could not sustain itself without total world control. To sustain this claim I'll just say that in 1941, USSR concentrated most of their airforce and land army on German border. Also they constructed new airfields to support their aircraft and new bridges so they could cross any river near border with ease. No country which wants to defend itself from other country, makes such efforts. During Barbarossa campaign Germans advanced just because every Russian thought that they are fighting to free them from communism. If Russians would attacked first they could pass through German lines by merit of their numbers alone. Not metioning that during that time German tanks and AT guns were far worse than Russian counterparts.


Yes, since he only acquired new territories and vassal nations after war. I don't count occupation zones.


I'm talking about Silesia after WW2 not Greaterpoland after WW1.

28fa28  No.11993765


Oh yea I see the "WW2" now, sorry my bad.

28fa28  No.11993776

File: 92d2f46411aa64b⋯.jpg (279.78 KB, 800x1102, 400:551, Rokossovsky.jpg)


Poland and Russia are the most unstoppable mix in history.

c19ef2  No.11993799


not really, but Germany with Poland would be interesting.


Yes, because (((they))) don't want another war between brothers... any white country supporting leftist propaganda need redpilling not annihilation since this is what (((they))) want.

8fdb9b  No.11994037


How many babies you think this man raped while in Germany?

c25947  No.11994836

File: b4ba96780da9026⋯.jpg (104.03 KB, 749x500, 749:500, your blue pills are too pa….jpg)


Your blue pills are painful for me to endure, Op.

Please lurk more so you won't be so … insufferable.

c25947  No.11994857


Because you think you're pretty?

That's kinda gay... you know about the SA and the Night of the Long Knives, right?

c25947  No.11994861


The war with the USSR was necessary because Stalin told Hitler he was going to Invade Romania to deny Germany the oil needed to continue the war on the Western Front.

c25947  No.11994880

File: 5139f62bc7975c2⋯.jpg (55.63 KB, 400x357, 400:357, holocast deaths.jpg)

File: 5570067aa617d63⋯.jpg (120.07 KB, 759x1023, 23:31, absurd stories of holocaus….jpg)

File: eed94f9e8ef5114⋯.jpg (203.31 KB, 600x785, 120:157, No proof Jewish holocaust.jpg)

db83ae  No.11995892

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Wehrmacht Parade

db83ae  No.11995897

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Germany during the Third Reich

db83ae  No.11995905

File: 6df88b81cb435ed⋯.webm (14.43 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Wehrmacht Parade [HD Colo….webm)

5f038e  No.11995911



Italian troops actually performed quite admirably in the Afrika Korps if you read accounts from both sides.

Also, the Regia Marina had several successes and in general Italy's navy was second only to Japan's among the Axis.

Italy suffered from a lack of materiel and a much smaller industrial base than its Axis partners.

Still, calling Italy 'useless' is unfair.


Just like in Japan, Nationalism is on the rise in Italy (maybe even more so!)

Even openly Fascist groups like Fiamma Tricolore, Forza Nuova and of course Gianluca Iannone's CASAPOUND have many followers.

f8f860  No.11996552


Iraq was pro-Axis as well as Vichy-controlled Syria and the Shah also secretly aided the Axis, before the Allies invaded them all.

aed400  No.11998107





If you don't know the history here like the back of your hand by now. Follow OP out the door and lurk moar.

5f038e  No.12001294

File: 3de8dc7725d4ab5⋯.jpg (59.46 KB, 400x565, 80:113, Alessandra-Mussolini-poste….jpg)




>Blaming actual Italians and not IMF Jew puppet politicians

Why don't we blame Germany and shit on them too while we're at it?

This reeks of D&C.

Fact is, TODAY, in Italy, Mussolini's female descendants have KEPT his name because it HELPS them politically.

Sure, Italy has issues, but Salvini is already starting to turn things around by trying to unite the North and the South and promote Nationalism for all Italians.



5f038e  No.12001301


Yes, and Iran was actually massively invaded by the Allies in 1941, before Pearl Harbor ever occurred, and Reza Shah was forcefully removed from power, in complete violation of International Law.

This took place without any aggression from the Iranians or any Declaration of War from the Allies.

In fact, Iran still wants to claim 'reparations' over this, and they have a lot more of a case than Jews, Chinese, or Koreans do.

5f038e  No.12001311


Japs just wanted a co-prosperity sphere where nations like Philippines, Indonesia, India, Vietnam, and Burma could be free and independent to pursue their own interests but also aide in the collective interests of Asians and be free from Western domination.

And Japan actually did accomplish this, as all of these countries gained their independence either directly or indirectly as a result of the Japanese war effort.

There was absolutely no way that Japan would have maintained occupation or rule of such a vast empire for very long after the war, even if they had been victorious, and actually in most of these places they had already given rule back to the native inhabitants.

In fact, there was even a conference in 1943 for the Co-Prosperity Sphere where 7 of the aforementioned nations + Manchuria met and discussed policy as equals.

4eceb7  No.12005693

Does anyone have pics and infodumps on the Pacific Theatre? I find Burma especially interesting

303794  No.12005721


Why did her husband pay child hookers?

I mean that wasn't recent either, that's pre-2016.

That said, I bet the mafia probably don't like her.

4dc98b  No.12009717



And guess who facilitated the re introduction of the mafia into Italy,?

289960  No.12013802

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>The Real Deal Ep #202 Benton Bradberry, the author of The Myth of German Villainy (Part I)

289960  No.12013805

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


>The Real Deal Ep #208 Benton Bradberry, the author of The Myth of German Villainy (Part II)

289960  No.12013864

File: 9dabb22acc21957⋯.pdf (6.76 MB, The Myth of German Villain….pdf)

File: dc6b721d2ac46bd⋯.jpg (314.44 KB, 540x792, 15:22, The Myth of German Villain….jpg)

The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry (2012)

d8aa96  No.12032349

File: 8f58be1530e1dbd⋯.png (473.37 KB, 1120x790, 112:79, Map showing the locations ….png)

File: d2003e95243c8ae⋯.jpg (471.82 KB, 1080x680, 27:17, #Waffen-SS- Many Nations, ….jpg)


576e12  No.12046360

File: 0c3d472d92f8673⋯.webm (856.98 KB, 480x360, 4:3, Adolf Hitler at the funer….webm)

Adolf Hitler at the funeral of Dr. Fritz Todt in February, 1942


160db2  No.12047369

File: 92d57f29278346d⋯.png (189.2 KB, 1073x703, 29:19, paradisus.png)

File: 0176e6d0bff30be⋯.png (186.27 KB, 546x350, 39:25, paradisusludaeorumoriginal….png)

Poland deserved all the suffering and death they got for being the prime kike breeding ground for centuries.

42a365  No.12049895



d7ae11  No.12050804

File: 264119a622f1754⋯.png (594.25 KB, 1038x1024, 519:512, Poland 10th century.png)

There seems to be a lot of jews here thinking they can subvert anons who don't know much about history before the 20th century, shilling that Poland is "occupying rightful German territory", so here's a map of the country at it's inception. Notice how it bears a striking resemblance to modern Poland?

d9a251  No.12050946


>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Its not like it was a necessary step because the CCCP was planning a attack on Europe in 1942…

57882c  No.12050988



Do you mean Memmel, the ethnically German part of Lithuania? A nothing burger it seems.


Why the heck not? If the Democrats are the real nazis and Republicans are the real liberals why not Nazis being the real Jews?

57882c  No.12051011

File: 96eaabe75798d04⋯.jpg (138.95 KB, 474x394, 237:197, Jew Anglo.jpg)

6cab6b  No.12051099

File: b2dec0022bdf67a⋯.png (46.88 KB, 711x631, 711:631, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 01d0395b8d4d1ab⋯.png (43.24 KB, 695x565, 139:113, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 27f528ca784b163⋯.png (21.66 KB, 692x317, 692:317, ClipboardImage.png)

File: aa7a452ddfcac7f⋯.png (36.87 KB, 688x538, 344:269, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f5d69d8bb457cf0⋯.png (29.93 KB, 696x408, 29:17, ClipboardImage.png)


find "1001 quotes about jews" on archive.org. Free .pdf.

ff8d7b  No.12052333


nobody gives a fuck about shitty poland

d51a18  No.12053286

File: e8cb313be24bba4⋯.png (17.16 KB, 778x58, 389:29, Screen Shot 2018-08-23 at ….png)

File: 1b9976e72f965a3⋯.png (1.46 MB, 1310x1138, 655:569, Screen Shot 2018-08-23 at ….png)


I know we shouldn't be promoting interethnic divisions, but I've been to Poland twice and I've got to say that the Poles are the most jewy of any Europeans I've ever met in person. They have this national mythos developed around their near-destruction, just like the jews. They talk about their Partitions as if it makes them special, but I've also been to Wales, Breton, Frisia and the Basque country and none of those people are so butthurt about their history. None of them are even autonomous countries, but they also don't pretend that Haman-er, I mean Hitler, wanted to destroy them all like the Poles do. The Welsh joke about the English, but the Poles actually have a real hate boner for the Germans and the Russians (and Ukrainians…) They see themselves as such victims, and it's hard for me to take them seriously when Pollacks come to this board and try to rewrite history to fit into their myths—just like the jews do! I'm an Anglo and an American and I can own up to the evils of my people, but this whole fucking thread is just Pollacks shitting on Uncle Adolf and pretending that Poland dindu nuffin. Wikijew even says that 6 gorillion poles died in the war. Funny that!

Fucking grow a pair and get with the program.

ff8d7b  No.12053349



some polack saying eastern Germany belongs to his kind, smh. he had to be put in his place. what a great civilization the Germans build in east Pomerania and Prussia, and the Poles and Russians had to destroy it

d7ae11  No.12054789


>It's not D&C I'm just creating an internal division on the board

Yeah we get it schlomo but your tactics are a bit tired

ff8d7b  No.12054830

File: a3138f24d587b4c⋯.png (20.84 KB, 253x228, 253:228, better.png)


>blah blah blah everybody that disagrees with me is a kike

>your opinion is dangerous and must be shut down via namecalling

d7ae11  No.12054846


You sure got me, you posted a map of territory that was conquered through war! Unfortunately unlike you I can accept that land changes hands, because literally every country in history has lost and gained it. Too bad you're too butthurt to realize the reason Germany ever had it in the first place is the exact same reason Poland has it now. (Or what's more likely is that you're a kike pitting brother against brother)


That doesn't say anything about the holocaust. Recall that World War 2 was a ==WAR==, and wars are known for having a lot of fighting in them. This particular war involved a lot of fighting in Poland. Are you telling me the Germans were perfect innocent creatures who's bullets would automatically bend away from any civilian? Surely nobody is retarded enough to expect one of history's bloodiest conflicts to leave to population of the countries in which it was fought untouched, so what are you trying to prove?

c0177a  No.12056303


>you posted a map of territory that was conquered through war

…by Russia, most of which was then given to Poland. Poland had just got assraped by Germany in a few weeks prior to that. Poland does not deserve the land no matter how you slice it.

536c83  No.12077079


based bulgar

25f16f  No.12077245


Hitler could of won, that’s what depresses me about WW2.

a6c7a7  No.12077670


At least one sane post in this thread.


>not really, but Germany with Poland would be interesting.

Considering our bloody and violent history that's borderline abstract, but fucking hell, if the outcome is cleaning the planet from kikes and shitskins than count me in. We can sort our shit after that.

t. Polak

d59631  No.12078015

Who was the biggest scumbag in the war and why was it Churchill

5c97f2  No.12078199

File: 92d57f29278346d⋯.png (189.2 KB, 1073x703, 29:19, paradisus.png)

File: 9b490b8ae8eeedd⋯.png (2.41 MB, 1600x1418, 800:709, 1471454847919-0.png)

File: 1110d86c33f9271⋯.jpg (235.23 KB, 2400x1186, 1200:593, 2b042afd111d03732368345440….jpg)

File: ec9239e97dd43ad⋯.jpg (79.11 KB, 720x677, 720:677, ec9239e97dd43ad8b006ca0ee4….jpg)



absolutely. worst white country by far, should not have a coastline and should be about 1/3rd of the size that it is


Russia was baste before Bolshevism

9191bd  No.12079475


>posting your face on hatechan

Newfag normalnigger leave

>I would have made the perfect Aryan soldier for the Third Reich

You look like a soyboy. Honour, loyalty, courage and strength were more important than cy +3 le blonde hair blue eyes maymay. Stop taking selfies and fawning over yourself.

536c83  No.12079762


get a new haircut, drop the glasses and you wont look as a faggot i guess

but right now you look like a turbo faggot

f3ed84  No.12089817

File: ba75d86cdc9d04f⋯.jpg (109 KB, 675x960, 45:64, Luftwaffe Major Hans Phili….jpg)


8a8d22  No.12089880


>1st pic

jews got to be tumors who never assimilated or even spoke the local language, eventually leading to the disappearance of Poland, but still a pretty good deal considering history of kikes in England and USA where they even have the audacity to participate in public life while pretending to be white

How unfortunate there were no efficient genocide extermination methods in XVI century.

>2nd pic

>It's okay when we divide politically weak countries, but bad when they partition us as a result of military weakness

having 6 times less jews than Poland you managed to match them at moral relativism.

Clausewitz's teachings don't apply to germans?

e16089  No.12092914

<Author John Wear reveals evidence contradicting the narrative we have been taught about Germany, Japan & the Allies in World War II. WEARS WAR is the battle to bring FAKE HISTORY into accord with the facts.


24800b  No.12105315

What's the name of the book which supposedly radicalised Himmler? I've seen it posted here, it's a novel and people said to read it instead of siege.

855263  No.12105361


I think I know what book you are talking about but i cant remember the name. Im pretty sure it's two word and the first word starts with v.

24800b  No.12105464


I have a feeling the word 'garden' is in the title and it may have been written by a woman.

I could be completely wrong but it's driving me crazy, I saw it posted here a few times.

2eba59  No.12105561


What supposedly made Himmler "radical" or "radicalised"? Nothing from what I know of him, but do tell your view.

24800b  No.12105625


The way the book was described when someone posted it was the it was a very radical book, a personal favourite of Himmler and they said that it 'radicalised' him.

Might not be true but I want to see it, I'm sure they said it was banned by the allies after the war as well.

2eba59  No.12106031

File: ad2d712c51b2b7d⋯.webm (6.43 MB, 760x568, 95:71, Dutch man reads from Mein….webm)


Okay. Speaking of bookburning after the war:


2eba59  No.12106095

Not to disparage the man in the photo but the comment section might use some insight.


eb7583  No.12106872

File: dd3041346684549⋯.jpg (116.87 KB, 540x720, 3:4, oera linda cover.jpg)


You thinking of the Oera Linda Boek, the so called Himmler's bible? It's a modern forgery but it's pretty interesting.

24800b  No.12107331


That's not it unfortunately. It's a novel.

7579e5  No.12138080


The truth is sad (for poles and suprisingly germans), if III Reich didn't invade Poland in 1939, Germans will be welcoming year 1940 with bankruptcy.

8cea81  No.12162071

Italy caused ww2

ab00cf  No.12162157

Why did Hitler cuck out at Dunkirk? He could've destroyed the English. I wonder how the war would have turned out had he not done that. He should have been ruthless instead of showing weakness and kindess, look what it cost him.

ab00cf  No.12162162


I read this a lot, I do not understand economics and I read that the German economy was one big bubble ready to bust the only thing to keep it going was a war economy. I don't know what to believe anymore.

943013  No.12162174


Goering told him that the Luftwaffe could stop the evacuation on its own and later lied or misstated the number of ships that were getting through. Hitler believed him both times and so no attempt was made to attack the Allies at Dunkirk.

ab00cf  No.12162181


Christ in heaven, why?

943013  No.12162214


Air forces were still pretty new at that point so it could have been that they just greatly overestimated the Luftwaffe's capabilities (which they did disastrously during the Battle of Stalingrad). Also, communications were just not as good back then, which could have led to the leadership misunderstanding what was happening on the ground.

2c5e00  No.12162230


hitler did only one thing wrong.

he was too soft. but not the next one.

ab00cf  No.12162432


I'm not too knowledgeable about WW2 but I imagine Dunkirk was not their only blunder that cost them. Well, we better hurry the fuck up and create a 4th reich and do it right this time or else we'll go extinct.

d12c99  No.12163139

File: 43ef37fd722d290⋯.pdf (782.23 KB, The Artist Within The Warl….pdf)

File: 1e96caada708385⋯.jpg (36.75 KB, 318x480, 53:80, Artist-Within-Warlord-Cove….jpg)



in his own words.. PDF related

>(…) “We had to attack toward the west – Paris and northern France had to be taken very fast, to make it impossible for the English to land additional troops. We also had to direct an offensive toward the south, with a thrust behind the French fortifications. We had to enforce a final decision and thus bring the French campaign to a quick finish because there was another reason of a military-political kind. I did not remain orientated to only one side: for a long time I was listening, worried, toward the east. And did not a slight possibility of peace still exist, even though a vague one, which I might have obstructed by a pitiless defeat of the Dunkirk army?

Continues on the second page

ff8f8a  No.12163629

File: 0367fa4df0906aa⋯.gif (103.9 KB, 150x100, 3:2, 0367fa4df0906aa59980ee2d7e….gif)


Came here to post: your a faggot

34d930  No.12177001

File: 748f5b34a34a7d6⋯.pdf (13.13 MB, Hitler's Revolution - Rich….pdf)


That's far from the full picture. Did you read the PDF above?


No, the war was a strain on the country of course

34d930  No.12177022



^ Dunkirk

15b52c  No.12177200

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

15b52c  No.12177205


where did you get this information from?

6f63b2  No.12177210


That’s true but it’s not the whole story or even I think the “real” reason. Hitler knew the SU was planning to invade Poland as well and if those ethnic Germans wound up behind Soviet lines it would be even harder to recover the territory at that point. Honestly, there might be other stuff too that we don’t know and was destroyed in document form. Nothing in history is ever simple or black and white.

6f63b2  No.12177214

As an aside, what do you guys think about the Table Talks? Real? Fake? Proof for either?

34d930  No.12177257


I'm sure its authentic. Great,very illuminating educative talks.


>Honestly, there might be other stuff too that we don’t know and was destroyed in document form. Nothing in history is ever simple or black and white.

That's nothing but speculation. Its pretty well documented and you too answered it

34d930  No.12177260


What's your reasoning for posting that hack's video? I jumped to the middle of the video and he completely bastardizes what national socialism means within seconds.

d74bd7  No.12177288

File: 9eb48ddf963af47⋯.jpg (35.26 KB, 368x560, 23:35, WWII_anime.jpg)



Germany did not start the war with Poland this was started by the Polish while the British egged them on and promised them Berlin behind the scenes, they did similar things with Italy in both world wars however Italy learned not to trust them after WW1 (well the fascists anyway). The Polish emboldened by the British engaged in crimes and murder against the German people in Poland and tried very hard to cut off East Prussia from Germany…. More or less a blockade, furthermore weeks before the Germans retook their own lands there was an influx of thousands of Germans that escaped and or where expelled from their homes in poland (new reels, footage and newspapers documenting this still exist) whom provided proof of malfeasance and abuse by the Polish government.

> Italy so useless

Most of that is British propaganda and cover ups that are now taken as "fact" since information from the Italian and even the German side ( to some extent) is scarce however information relating to the war effort against England by the Italians that has turned up since the end of WWII paints a different picture of events.

If however you would like to examine the problems with the Italian armed forces in WWII there are 2 main problems. The first was leadership. Poor leadership in the Italian army was directly related to antiqued officer corp. training practices which did not value merit but one’s connections/birth (aristocracy) incidentally this was similar to the British officer corps. Good officers were often punished because they overshadowed “high birth/ well connected officers”.

Moreover the fascists did not control all of the armed forces instead the royals/royalist controlled a large part of the armored forces which resulted in entrenching out touch old officers who did not understand modern( WWII) warfare and were slow to adopt existing technologies for example radar on ships which not only did Italy have radar prewar but the Germans sent them some units for their ships as well (later) however, the royals blocked all attempts to install radar on ships until very late (42-43).

The second issue was PRODUCTION Italy fielded only a fraction of the tanks and aircraft than the British. Low production was due to Italy’s mostly unindustrialized and largely agrarian based economy.

>bomber harris

He was an unhinged jewish agent that helped topple not only Europe but specifically the British empire with what he and Churchill did in WWII. The one thing about diversity that genuinely makes me happy is when I see shit-skins defacing churchill and bomber harris statues in England.


>The axis was doomed from the start and hopelessly out manned from day 1.

Why is it that leftist/allied-philes throw around the term “The Axis” like this?

Incorrect, what beat the Germans and their allies was the lend-lease sent to the Soviet Union, had the US never send aid to the USSR it would have collapsed and starved (food stuffs were a large part of LL). Stalin himself was worried about this as late as 1944 and grew increasing desperate and “insistent” on the allies opening a second front. Stalin considered North Africa and Italy front a joke that did nothing to funnel German forces away from the east and alleviate his problems.


> Mussolini f.e. ordered the invasion of Greece against all reason.

2 reasons for Greece, first Greece was communist and allied with the British as such they were undermining the security of Italy via Albina, and Yugoslavia secondly Mussolini hoped to disperse the Commonwealth forces to Greece to undermine the British from securing a much needed reinforcements in North Africa. Which he was successful unfortunately his generals did not take the incentive to crush the British units and soon lost this advantage (reason given was lack of supplies and restricting the army).

0019a7  No.12177316


>> Italy so useless

>Most of that is British propaganda and cover ups that are now taken as "fact"

They fucking lost a war against us. How wrong could the claim be?

0019a7  No.12177324


> first Greece was communist and allied with the British

That's downright wrong. The Metaxa regime was notoriously hard right and anti-communist and both brits and domestic commies propagandized that he was an Axis sympathizer. If anything the Italian invasion really undermined the far right's rule and human reserves and exhausted the national army while it allowed the communist traitors to build a reputation of patriotic defenders and come as the top of the military power of Greece through conscripting resistance fighters after the Germans curbstomped the National army..

d74bd7  No.12177386

File: 4c0c1d0085c0a3d⋯.jpg (178.87 KB, 848x296, 106:37, d.jpg)



Only due to American intervention, anon before that England was in a very precarious situation and suffered great losses much of which was not reported or was under-reported they likewise over-blew their claims against the axis powers particularly for the Italians in the post war they did not fix this for accuracy.


Pic for you m8.

2d3eee  No.12182886

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Wehrmacht Victory Parade in Paris 14.June 1940 - 22.June 1940 Compiegne


ce9600  No.12182949

if the Italians were competent enough in africa to have won with their 8:1 manpower advantage over the British, would that have allowed the axis enough manpower (through not having to worry about another fucking front in africa and then italy) to have made a sizable difference in, say, the siege of St. Petersberg, Kursk or Svestopol to have made a dramatic difference in the Eastern Front? Obviously with North Africa and the middle east squared away, oil, copper and grain which Germany desperately needed could have been shipped to and through the Mediterranean. Had the Italians pushed to morocco and down to, say, lake Victoria, a huge amount of resouces along with the suez itself would be under axis control.

I know it's heavily optimistic to say that the italians would have had the ability to occupy that much land, but under the same type fictional leadership that would have made the Italian infantry and effective fighting force would also have helped tremendously in the inefficient history of Italian land-occupation in Africa.

b30549  No.12182997


It would already have been much better if Mussolini didn't try to LARP as a roman and invade Greece turning it into a meat grinder for German troops and pushing the country into allies arms

ce9600  No.12183009


>mountainous country that that has been renowned for being difficult to invade for 2500 years

>thinking it'll be easy to invade for your half-baked unmechanized army with 30 year obsolete equipment and dud artillery.

Mussolini had the tactical insight of mossy stone.

cc6697  No.12183018


You know, people kind of gloss over this point but wasn't corruption in the higher echelons of the Reich as huge problem. The sort of problem where either through greed or cowardice there were people trying to cut deals with the enemy and doing things like sending troops the wrong supplies and funneling money to secret bank accounts.

cc6697  No.12183024


I mean I get that every government has problems with corruption but allegedly in fascism/natsoc it is more pronounced because in a one party system with a controlled press it's much harder to muckrake and hold people accountable.

77819b  No.12184557


actually it's the exact opposide (for the third reich at least) i mean sure the leadership got all filthy rich BUT at the same time used hard force and brutality to destroy the corruption in the country and it was very successfull and today LEGAL corruption is everywhere with all the lobbyism, NGOs and other charities but yeah the third reich was very uniqe with this because we germans are not filthy people and pretty much all other authotarian states are really corrupt beyond repair

dd8bfb  No.12187036

File: 134ffab201113b4⋯.webm (12.49 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, How WW2 Started - What Th….webm)



There was treason but your speculation needs some sources to back it up.


>i mean sure the leadership got all filthy rich

And where are the sources for that?

d6b667  No.12187154

File: 99180e28a6a79f9⋯.jpg (85.31 KB, 316x475, 316:475, Wages.jpg)

What do you guys think about the Wages of Destruction. Is it a good book?

3657cc  No.12187325

File: a03f33d2b472cda⋯.jpg (62.54 KB, 494x656, 247:328, f1700b10fad08d4da88b9ee839….jpg)

Each of these men have something in their ass - can you guess what it is?

d78515  No.12187618



Hot pic btw. Saved.

ab3155  No.12214807


>Hitler's Baboon

Those are Mandrills faggot.

d74bd7  No.12214826


t.jewish homosexual

d74bd7  No.12214870



As stated here:



it was necessary due to Greece passing information to allies (espionage) and allowing the allies to use Greece as a base. Also Mussolini wanted to divert British troops to Greece than allow them to land in North Africa which btw went exactly as planned.Unfortunately his North African General did not capitalize on thisdevelopment and crush the British forces.. reasons give as state were "not enough supplies".


Corruption is not very apparent in the third Reich idk about Italy off hand.

There were however traitors Canaris being the biggest, the Italians had many more due to Mussolini's lack of resolve in 1922, he did not kill the royals or their supporters when he had the chance.<-A lesson for anyone that ascends to power, remove the old power structure completely.

The motivations of some traitors towards the end wasn't even against the NSDAP/German state (despite what post war literature pushes) but rather an attempt to end the war by removing Hitler idea being they could broker a cease fire /peace with the Allies more easily that way… They didn't realize that the allies wanted to destroy the German people and cared little about its leader.

7febc7  No.12214892

File: db80e5d246039d8⋯.jpg (37.25 KB, 299x500, 299:500, xgoodnightgentlegoy.jpg)



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d129c7  No.12236504

File: c80b7fece75b0f0⋯.jpg (5.25 MB, 1110x11965, 222:2393, WWII - The real reason Ado….jpg)

The real reason Adolf Hitler invaded Poland, and Bloody Sunday in Bromberg


d129c7  No.12236505

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

879c20  No.12266937

File: 8fe49891999536d⋯.gif (1.65 MB, 540x405, 4:3, GIF Italy map fasce WW2.gif)

File: bcc323f791df1ef⋯.gif (1.69 MB, 540x405, 4:3, GIF Japan Germany map swas….gif)

7ed898  No.12272597

Is there any archieve with lots of redpill on the WWI and WWII? And, If possibly, naming the jews who were in power and incited the war against the reich, such as Hore-Belisha.

175f70  No.12275474




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309ea2  No.12276712

645c0a  No.12288012

File: d88330c40baf0cf⋯.png (2.02 MB, 955x4219, 955:4219, The Reich inventions that ….png)

The Reich inventions that were copied

92f6e1  No.12288681

File: 7d1094f673d840e⋯.jpg (32.11 KB, 299x443, 299:443, Europe-unie-contre-bolchev….jpg)

File: 777be94ac31819a⋯.jpg (603.78 KB, 2537x3520, 2537:3520, dOk0K4M.jpg)

File: edd19d98a753dad⋯.jpg (295.38 KB, 1508x1200, 377:300, edd19d98a753dad9e8d1d856cd….jpg)

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File: f38afd25aa2d514⋯.jpg (136.08 KB, 1920x1499, 1920:1499, G4iGoGr.jpg)


>conditional surrender never on the table

Tinfoil: The July Plot – and many others – were fabricated to ferret out insurgents (like contemporary counter terrorist stings): intelligence agents that later would be re-inserted in Paperclip after the war shed their identities after 'execution'. Conditional surrender may have actually been less desireable or effective for the very, very long con game. IG Farben was only fully liquidated around 2000, and every President seems to have to visit San Carlos de Bariloche down in Argentina since Eisenhower, all the way through Obonga with a contingent of NASA scientists.


>Army group north retains panzer army 4 and pushes to encircle lake lagoda thereby isolating leningrad from supply

Not doing this cucked the Finns' participation and securing Karelia. More significant than Stalingrad imo – this, and Moscow, and Staligrad all not being cleared wasn't acceptable. At least one ought to have been taken, and Leningrad was the most feasible while securing the North Group's flank.


> First, he makes the outlandish claim that Churchill had no power

Rothschild investment from very early on. Winston goes to the Boer War why? Cecil Rhodes. Winston, in his Admiralty post, is the architect of the hunger blockade which forced Armistice, Versailles, and The Balfour Declaration as a consequence. Churchill danced to the tune of pyramid apexers from cradle to grave.


>discussion about the lend lease? Does anybody know the exact amount of material shipped over for the Soviet Union

The entire truck fleet; most ball bearings and rubber. These in-themselves went very far toward staving off implosion, repeating WWI.


If the USA were strict rational actors, they'd have declared war on Britain, taken its empire for itself, and split everything North of the Philippines and East of India 50/50 with the Japanese. Britain is the single greatest historical enemy of geopolitical detente (even through the present via its proxy, Israel.)


Freedman's position at Harry D. White's side in the Versailles negotiations is revelatory, especially the drafting of the Morgenthau plan. It's worse than one imagines hearing it out of the (((horses'))) mouth.


>the start of WWII had nothing to with Poland

Regaining Konigsberg for a port was probably a strategic consideration (vs. Britain). Good bluff to call in any case.


>if Hitler did invade Britain, the Soviets would have immediately invaded Europe

And the USA would have been forced to join the right side of history for once.


Much is made of the demographic crisis in Japan. They aren't close to reaching the 70 million that fought WWII and swept through Asia. If they have to do it again, they could.


>Oera Linda

Red Army troops encountered hundreds of an-hero'd Tibetan monks in SS uniform in Reichstag. Presumably they were there to translate Tibetan texts from the first Ahnenerbe expedition. The frame of time to make the trek during the war, and avoid detection is all the more astonishing.


>Only due to American intervention,

The plan to retake the Colonies was in effect in the early 1800s, and involved grooming an American elite that would be Anglophillic – recapitulate the old world class system out of nothing. Rhodes Scholarships, for instance.


M60 and MG42 ought to be there. MOAB. Crystal Meth.

b7c185  No.12289074


That book is a forgery like the Protocols are a forgery. No evidence either of them are actually forgeries, but we'll just assume it is, cause surely the first civilization in Europe to spread language, technology and culture couldn't have been blonde and blue eyed, right? Surely they couldn't have been purebred Aryans. Nah, the mutt Greeks and Romans did that.

da0fa6  No.12292635

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Axis War Heroes - Joachim Peiper

20bf54  No.12297459

File: bde952a4b801b2f⋯.jpg (44.36 KB, 400x301, 400:301, Antifa - Bomber Harris - B….jpg)


Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

d74bd7  No.12297479

File: e798b369d9ad176⋯.jpg (99.95 KB, 442x241, 442:241, American_junkies.jpg)

File: 67facbea7393540⋯.jpg (164.46 KB, 1025x574, 25:14, Benzedrine-Sulphate.jpg)


That's not as good as it could be… the person who made it was probably a bit unfamiliar with German innovations save the more obvious ones.


> Crystal Meth.

Myth, the Germans removed drugs from their employ by 1941 where as the Allies mass produced it and still use it.

20bf54  No.12297501


Where is your counter-proof?

d74bd7  No.12297514


Pulled from US document Wo22/97 ( primary source document). 2nd pic is real WWII era US issue amphetamine.

99bd96  No.12297536


You were literally given the proof. Looks like you've got work to do now moving the goal post, Abraham. Chop chop

20bf54  No.12297548

d74bd7  No.12297575


It is covered in the US document which the excerpt is cut out from.

ef524f  No.12297581

File: c3a247030fc34c3⋯.jpg (36.51 KB, 680x395, 136:79, brainlet.jpg)

File: ca74ff82d6daaa5⋯.jpg (68.94 KB, 985x554, 985:554, c2cc5db2-7d54-4c88-9ebd-0d….jpg)

>The United States alone holds over 45 percent of the global pharmaceutical market. In 2016, this share was valued around 446 billion U.S. dollars.


Thank god we beat the Nazi's in WW2

3bf793  No.12297583


>Poland was killing swarths of ethnic germans & refused to stop

[citation needed]

Preferably something that is not German wartime propaganda.

ad450d  No.12297610

File: f7c66e52f0b8eb2⋯.pdf (47.52 KB, Harpers Magazine - Octobe….pdf)


For sure


>Someone wrote to Wright Field recently, saying he understood this country had got together quite a collection of enemy war secrets, that many were now on public sale, and could he, please, be sent everything on German jet engines. The Air Documents Division of the Army Air Forces answered:

>Sorry – but that would be fifty tons.

8cd696  No.12297634


>not reliable source

Are you a jewish supremacist? It is starting to seem that way.

8cd696  No.12297642

File: b1b65aa8dbd9441⋯.jpg (5.33 KB, 275x183, 275:183, The internet adventures of….jpg)


>muh secrets

Is there anything more jewish than this title. Answer: no

d74bd7  No.12297652

File: 6e0db9829f2581e⋯.jpg (409.79 KB, 1562x560, 781:280, spinng.jpg)


That's not how WO/CIOS papers work anon they are without propaganda in the typical sense because they are military findings, testing or instructions.. the document is citing a German measure which is typical for these papers to do for example a German memorandum to change quenching oils in some the metallurgy related documents when testing German or domestic armor plate or typical German or japanese squad tactics as a comparison.

In any case here's a medical journal excerpt:

The Journal of interdisciplinary history

Medical Science and the Military: The Allies' Use of Amphetamine during World War II

8cd696  No.12297659

File: 108dc9e4ec0190d⋯.jpg (6.71 KB, 258x195, 86:65, im scared because stuff an….jpg)


You've discovered the dark underbelly of European Internet stuff. Behold my fellow investigative black woman. Behold the secrets of the White male! dig deep into your discoveries around here. For there exist dragons and monsters.

>nothing exist!

>nothing is real!

>my undefeated defense

>I've got them now! *snicker*

haha, what an infantile simp.

ad450d  No.12297668


Okay? Put in some constructive effort

8cd696  No.12297681

File: 22ff6968ada992c⋯.jpg (8.76 KB, 225x225, 1:1, its real!.jpg)



The americanized black woman reactions are really over-the-top transparent. Every word here confuses you. It's like you've entered a new world and your searching for the hidden white male.

Look no further, I am the white male. You've found me! Grrrrrr

8cd696  No.12297711

File: 20b16676ccac781⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 25.61 KB, 479x639, 479:639, 1526236632281.jpg)


>I simply ask for proof, which is not provided.

White people exist. Ok, ok…. we admit it. Dammit you found our most hidden secret. I can't believe it. Please don't write about it on your blog. Can we make a deal? You're just too smart of us. Your "nothing is real" intellectual defense was earth shattering. We can no longer compete with you.

The attention you seek, is being given to you. My words. I am typing them. You read now with eyeballs. Much attention collected.

8cd696  No.12297736


You're really falling apart. I think it's over. The end of this cave adventure of yours has ended. Nothing is as weird as hell as you standing on the platform "nothing is real". That is super creepy.

Action #1: Here is your evidence

Re-action: But that evidence isn't real. Because reality is not real.

Look, clown… I love getting black attention. I'm getting some right now if you know what I mean. >>12297711 Hmmm, hmmmmmmm

7a034c  No.12297748


Reminder that this post not only will not be deleted, but reporting it means the reporter will be banned.

8cd696  No.12297758


>Your evidence is an US source

You have a bright future as a lawyer. I mean, just wow. These big brains of yours are putting me in a place of amazement. Naw I mean, dawg? Seriously bro… you got to be a lawyer. Get dat degree 'n shit muh nig.

8cd696  No.12297829

File: d03324487706e4f⋯.jpg (303.63 KB, 1600x1067, 1600:1067, They want you to be their ….jpg)


Aye yo, my nig. How is it you know for sure the African Slave Trade existed? It was handled by the US Government. So I mean, yeah. Is you saying the US government is to be believed?

d74bd7  No.12298046

File: b8ebd8caf2b9564⋯.jpg (126.58 KB, 1088x214, 544:107, sd2.jpg)

File: 28b1cac5a59467f⋯.jpg (26.2 KB, 664x43, 664:43, s24.jpg)

File: 490fcd577bf288a⋯.jpg (117.34 KB, 1067x246, 1067:246, opiumlaw.jpg)


Sources for restriction and removal due to 1941 opium law cited (OP law international and German citation)

a992d1  No.12303958

< SS Leadership and Command (Audiobook) >


92f6e1  No.12304028

File: 4006e16786e40ea⋯.jpg (16.34 KB, 550x290, 55:29, Pervitin.jpg)

File: 006d1b450e234bd⋯.jpg (32.09 KB, 340x340, 1:1, Schokakola.jpg)


>Myth, the Germans removed drugs from their employ by 1941 where as the Allies mass produced it and still use it.

Pervitin (meth) and Schokokola (less meth, more Chocolate) was in the inventory until the end of the war, and there was never enough to go around. Schokokola is still available sans uppers today.

813d62  No.12304044

File: b7cc83afc2cf3e2⋯.jpg (121.37 KB, 776x834, 388:417, Capture.JPG)



Scho-ka-kola never contained Pervitin. It still exists and it's caffeinated, as it always was.

Now Kikepedia may be a shit, but if it passes up a possibility to shit on the ehbul nazies…

d74bd7  No.12304073

File: 381b1ddd567534e⋯.jpg (753.89 KB, 2260x994, 1130:497, Untitled-2.jpg)


<Schokakola is meth my fellow whites

They don't send their best.

Schokakola is chocolate with a high caffeine level (see pic from their official website) not only do they still make it and sell it but the recipe is almost identical to the WWII recipe except that it has slightly more caffeine now than in WWII.

As stated Pervtin was heavily restricted and more or less withdrawn in 1941 due ill-effects..

57b2dd  No.12305123


Neither of those were invasions you retard.

a12356  No.12311286


>why was Italy so useless?

Not as useless as Japan

460597  No.12311296



Schokakola had kola nut distillation which is very similar to amphetamine salts(ritalin)

Pervtin was amphetamine salts, not methamphetamine.

methamphetamine was developed in a german lab, but was never used widely outside of hospitals(it's still used in hospitals - as is cocaine)

methamphetamine is amphetamine + ephedrine, amphetamine salts is an amphetamine reduction that's much weaker and less addictive.

>t. speed anon

ab4324  No.12315674

The Book of Revelation warns that at a time shortly before the battle of Armageddon, perhaps early in a global war to which Armageddon is the conclusion, an army from the East comprised of 200 million soldiers will be sent to war against Israel, any Arab allies of Israel, and the nations of the West. Such an army China now boasts it has today. Meanwhile, the Old Testament prophet Daniel warns that Russia, as the King of the North, will attack the beast who will rule over a united Europe, and this will happen, again, shortly before Armageddon. One might conclude from those two prophecies that China and Russia will be allied against Europe and against Israel and her allies.

The question is whether this is World War III or a much later war. One must admit that a lot of prophecy that is in Revelation and Daniel has to happen yet – nearly all of it has to, in fact. And these include at least two other world wars that will precede the one called Armageddon. So we may be talking about some distance in the future.

ab4324  No.12315677


Oh, you wanted to discuss II. Sorry, my bad. Keep on sleeping.

ccfd83  No.12316393



>Discussing Christianity (zionism) in a WWII thread no less

9cbf7b  No.12349894

File: 404ab74bdbf05ae⋯.jpg (97.38 KB, 800x615, 160:123, German helmet decals WW2.jpg)

File: dadc22e62143672⋯.jpg (489.32 KB, 1200x1600, 3:4, Divisions of the SS.jpg)

a05459  No.12350023


>t. civilian

There is no such thing as doomed unless a bunch of faggots like you are alive and in the ranks.

c80f12  No.12355264

File: e457eacead05414⋯.jpg (160.74 KB, 655x1016, 655:1016, A Final Appeal To Reason P….jpg)


Its going to be released within two months.

34d930  No.12366218


Better look into it more before calling it a forgery. A proper translation work is ongoing.



e630ca  No.12371716

File: 88b1ecd64cd8d59⋯.webm (15.9 MB, 1280x628, 320:157, Attack on Pearl Harbor 19….webm)


8d5269  No.12371734

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.



Not just that, primary tanks of the Wehrmacht in '39 were Panzer 1 and 2s, they were already out of date by the time the war started and were relegated to training schools by the time the eastern front was opened. It was said that if Hitler actually learned how under powered his light tanks were for his Blitzkriegs, he'd have gone to war later in order to build them up.

Watch the War Files if you haven't already, shit audio but looks at german vehicles without allied moral preaching only in one vid does that happen.

e3bf0b  No.12371802

File: 1df9b7e507043e2⋯.jpg (15.88 KB, 219x156, 73:52, 220px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_18….jpg)

File: 3ae884c721f7cdc⋯.jpg (20.14 KB, 300x198, 50:33, 300px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_18….jpg)


>Any hard proof besides hearsay and wishful thinking?

Yes retard


747ea1  No.12371815

Lebensraum was a stupid idea.

As was thinking arabs would make loyal allies.

e630ca  No.12371838

File: d6f6d8d8e32dff9⋯.webm (14.15 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Adolf Hitler - Response T….webm)

File: 9489c0c7937ff6e⋯.jpg (884.86 KB, 825x2950, 33:118, WWII_massacre_Memos_show_U….jpg)


<Polish Atrocities Continue Against German Minority

>The Germans in Poland continued to experience an atmosphere of terror in the early part of September 1939. Throughout the country the Germans had been told, “If war comes to Poland you will all be hanged.” This prophecy was later fulfilled in many cases.

>The famous bloody Sunday in Toruń on September 3, 1939, was accompanied by similar massacres elsewhere in Poland. These massacres brought a tragic end to the long suffering of many ethnic Germans. This catastrophe had been anticipated by the Germans before the outbreak of war, as reflected by the flight, or attempted escape, of large numbers of Germans from Poland. The feelings of these Germans were revealed by the desperate slogan, “Away from this hell, and back to the Reich!”[1]

>Dr. Alfred-Maurice de Zayas writes concerning the ethnic Germans in Poland:

> The first victims of the war were Volksdeutsche, ethnic German civilians resident in and citizens of Poland. Using lists prepared years earlier, in part by lower administrative offices, Poland immediately deported 15,000 Germans to Eastern Poland. Fear and rage at the quick German victories led to hysteria. German “spies” were seen everywhere, suspected of forming a fifth column. More than 5,000 German civilians were murdered in the first days of the war. They were hostages and scapegoats at the same time. Gruesome scenes were played out in Bromberg on September 3, as well as in several other places throughout the province of Posen, in Pommerellen, wherever German minorities resided.[2]


>WWII massacre: Memos show US cover-up of Stalin’s Katyn slaughter

e630ca  No.12374785

File: 6208bf383d1707d⋯.webm (15.68 MB, 1268x640, 317:160, Battle of Britain 1940 - ….webm)


2b0b3a  No.12402451

File: 8fde9dde22776c5⋯.jpg (359.66 KB, 1280x1240, 32:31, WW2 Map 01.jpg)

File: 959cf8d3ae25b37⋯.webm (15.21 MB, 1280x618, 640:309, The Atlantic Wall.webm)


dc15d7  No.12402484



>removing potential traitors


Well mate, next thing you will say is that jews should not be prosecuted. But on the other hand this shows why nation-states are far safer than mixed nationality-states.

>Slaughter in Danzig

>City full of people which considered themselves as Germans (and many NSDAP members) slaughtered by Polish minority

You are more retarded than communists

129820  No.12408523

File: f177480e7222028⋯.jpg (1.38 MB, 532x5797, 532:5797, First_World_War_ended_100_….jpg)



e3bf0b  No.12408592


>Implying that a minority with guns cannot massacre a majority that was disarmed by the versailles treaty

Sorry nigger but if anyone is a retard here it's you.

a76ce8  No.12412704


dubs of truth

600fba  No.12413253

WWII saved much of Europe from Communism (eventually).

It also gave independence from the (((Allied))) Colonialists to Asian nations such as Indonesia, Burma, the Philippines, and India.

Of course, it was unfortunate that the Axis lost, but we shouldn't regard it as a complete failure.

The failure was afterwards when the (((Holohoax))) narrative started getting pushed, in the 60's.

022415  No.12425503

File: 959cf8d3ae25b37⋯.webm (15.21 MB, 1280x618, 640:309, The Atlantic Wall.webm)

"The Atlantic Wall (German: Atlantikwall) was an extensive system of coastal defence and fortifications built by Germany between 1942 and 1944 along the coast of continental Europe and Scandinavia as a defence against an anticipated Allied invasion of German-occupied Europe from the United Kingdom during World War II. The manning and operation of the Atlantic Wall was administratively overseen by the German Army, with some support from Luftwaffe ground forces. The German Navy maintained a separate coastal defence network, organised into a number of sea defence zones.

Hitler ordered the construction of the fortifications in 1942. Almost a million French workers were drafted to build it. The wall was frequently mentioned in German propaganda. The fortifications included colossal coastal guns, batteries, mortars, and artillery, and thousands of German troops were stationed in its defences.

When the Allies eventually invaded the Normandy beaches in 1944, most of the defences were stormed within hours. Today, ruins of the wall exist in all of the nations where it was built, although many structures have fallen into the ocean or have been demolished over the years."


4c6a2f  No.12425510


>tfw the awful realization that the Atlantic wall was built as a deterrent

>the real wall was the fear of unimaginable losses that might be sustained from attacking it directly

>all to stall the allies long enough to defeat the bolsheviks

7b76e1  No.12433066

File: e7654550abcb11d⋯.jpg (2 MB, 889x8232, 127:1176, Why Germany Was Forced Int….jpg)

>Why Germany Was Forced Into Invading Greece, Crete, North Africa & Yugoslavia: It Was Not For Territorial Expansion


4c3f13  No.12445265

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

"Kampf um Norwegen – Feldzug 1940 (English: Battle for Norway - 1940 campaign) is a 80 minute-long National Socialist documentary directed by Martin Rikli and Dr. Werner Buhre by orders from the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht. Released in 1940, the movie follows the Invasion of Denmark and Norway in the spring 1940.

The film was never even shown in Germany, and nobody knows the reason why. The movie was for a long time considered lost in its entirety. The Bundesarchiv in Berlin held only a few clips from the film. But then a complete nitrate copy of the film surfaced on an Internet auction in 2005. The Norwegian college professor and media expert Jostein Saakvitne discovered this, and purchased the copy.

He then contacted the Norwegian Film Institute, and a consignment was entered into. The Film Institute had the film transferred to a video master, and sent the nitrate copy to the National Library nitrate film depository in Mo i Rana. As it became clear that the rights belonged to the Bundesarchiv, the film copy was brought back to Germany."

ed3093  No.12461828

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


>Otto Ernst Remer in Toronto

>Otto Ernst Remer was the commander of the Berlin garrison in July 1944 when the most well-known attempt on Adolf Hitler's life was made. He was instrumental in crushing the attempted overthrow of the German government. Here is his story of the event.

His part starts at 20min 8sec



20b1ab  No.12461920

File: e69a71b6a8bd9cc⋯.png (235.56 KB, 523x663, 523:663, gassed.png)


<they could never have beaten ZOG goy!

>Hitler let the british retreat at dunkirk as a sign of goodwill

>Churchill wanted war with hitler from 1933 and would not relent

>Hitler refused to retreat from Stalingrad and lost an entire army in a single battle

>Hitler fought on two fronts, including africa

>Germany basically did most of the legwork itself whilst other countries just relied on zerg tactics to overcome germany


c705d8  No.12465654

File: fceb9cb55c8671d⋯.webm (6.65 MB, 612x472, 153:118, Manufacturing the German ….webm)

ca413e  No.12465857


>Was invading / retaking Poland, a bad decision taken by the natsoc germans?

It was primarily over Danzig that Germany invaded Poland. Imagine Canadians killing and harassing Alaskans and cutting off the US highway to Alaska… That's what poland was doing to Danzig.

>Would WW2 have been averted, or at least delayed a few years, if not for this?

Had Poland not been pressured by Britain and France, they would have made a transit deal that avoided war. But we all know that the Happy Hanukkah guys wanted war anyway.

ca413e  No.12465932

File: 30301debf586c3b⋯.jpg (161.52 KB, 668x400, 167:100, saxons.jpg)

File: 8ab07e9cd90e318⋯.jpg (138.35 KB, 657x338, 657:338, Frisons.jpg)

File: e35b6963f4995b5⋯.pdf (941.69 KB, oera_linda_book_sandbach_1….pdf)


I think the book is real. Some points of fact I want to share;

1. There has never been a Peer reviewed study on the paper. It has not been chemically analyzed, microscopically analyzed, or carbon dated! All of which could be done in a week and positively conclude the paper being made in the mid 1800's.

<<The FACT this has NOT been done supports the writings being REAL

2. The content of the book is a compilation of "writings" or "laws" from different settlements throughout the Mediterranean and Europe. Each part is stylistically different from the others, denoting a different author.

3. The Philosophy and Laws written are logical and make sense.


God, whose name is "Wr-alda", is characterized as a "Tough Love Father". He loves us, but wants us to be strong and independent. He wants us to learn without his help. In fact the book states that you should not pray for help until you've done everything else in your power.


No sense being a novel, it was never published as such, and the "forger / creator" just submitted it to a library. And when you consider the content of the book, and the amount of time / knowledge that would be needed to write it. IFF it was forged, the dude would be a Genius!


One part of the book mentions "Fresians" in Alexander's army. I thought this to be wrong until I saw this book!




The Oera Linda book is NOTHING like the protocols, and it proves your ignorance of the book. I bet you've never read it have you?


This Anon knows whats up. In order for this book to be a "Forgery" AKA a "Fiction". Whoever wrote it had to have a very broad knowledge of history, attention to detail and nuance of old words and dialects!

ca413e  No.12465980


Here is a PDF of every page of the Oera Linda Book.


I would ask everyone to at least read it and judge for yourself.

953245  No.12498109

File: 4207b59c05c128a⋯.webm (15.83 MB, 720x480, 3:2, Germany Welcomes Japan’s ….webm)

>Germany Welcomes Japan’s Foreign Minister Yosuke Matsuoka, 1941

6fad32  No.12498506

File: f56df16eba28b8f⋯.webm (10.88 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, The Einsatzgruppen in the….webm)

File: 6d387f40028986a⋯.jpg (1.1 MB, 900x1350, 2:3, The Einsatzgruppen in the ….jpg)

The Einsatzgruppen

in the Occupied Eastern Territories: Genesis, Missions and Actions

"On 22 June 1941, National-Socialist Germany set out to destroy what it saw as a menace to the world: Judeo-Bolshevism in its most threatening manifestation, the Soviet Union. As the German Army marched east, certain special units called Einsatzgruppen (task forces) were deployed behind the front. Mainstream historians maintain that their primary task was to exterminate as many jews as possible. At war’s end, the Einsatzgruppen’s death toll and that of associated units is said to have amounted to some 1.5 to 3 million jewish civilians, depending on which historian you happen to hear.

The present study takes a critical look at the Einsatzgruppen’s activities and missions. While many authentic documents exist attesting to mass executions of jews in the temporarily German-occupied Soviet territories, the accuracy of the data contained in them is questionable, as even mainstream scholars admit.

The present book tries to uncover what really happened to the jews who lived in, or were deported into, the temporarily German-occupied territories of the Soviet Union. It first shows that the Einsatzgruppen were not simple killing units but had a broad variety of responsibilities. It then establishes that there is not a shred of evidence indicating that these units ever received orders to commit wholesale slaughter of jews. In fact, there is abundant evidence refuting such a claim. The extant documentation instead points to the jews having been targeted by the Germans as the fertile breeding ground of Bolshevism, hence as a convenient scapegoat for the atrocious way the Soviets waged this war.

Next, and unlike all other works published so far on this topic, the author analyzes with a critical mind and a common-sense approach the information we have about the Einsatzgruppen’s killings as well as the claimed attempts of German units to erase the traces of these crimes in what has been dubbed “Aktion 1005”: the exhumation and incineration of the murdered victims in 1943/1944. Almost everything known about “Aktion 1005” stems from Soviet investigations conducted after the Germans’ retreat. Their witness testimonies and forensic expert reports, however, reek of atrocity propaganda marked by absurdly impossible and often contradictory claims.

The only way of determining any more about what really happened would be the forensic examination, by independent researchers, of the physical traces left behind. Unfortunately, such research has been prevented by the powers that be."




5e5071  No.12498533


The PDF is here https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/39-te.pdf

6447fe  No.12498553


>In fact, there is abundant evidence refuting such a claim.

I'll be needing that to feed some ignorant minds.

867ce6  No.12509542

File: edf483abcf1c521⋯.webm (15.44 MB, 450x350, 9:7, Das Sowjet Paradies (The ….webm)

Das Sowjet Paradies (The Soviet Paradise), 1941


867ce6  No.12509546

^ are there typos? I added more legible subtitles

dcd6d9  No.12511128


da0fa6  No.12519150

File: 612f544c9044a4e⋯.webm (15.87 MB, 1000x456, 125:57, Battle of Moscow, October….webm)

The Battle of Moscow was a military campaign that consisted of two periods of strategically significant fighting on a 600 km (370 mi) sector of the Eastern Front during World War II. It took place between October 1941 and January 1942. The Soviet defensive effort frustrated Hitler's attack on Moscow, the capital and largest city of the Soviet Union. Moscow was one of the primary military and political objectives for Axis forces in their invasion of the Soviet Union.

The German strategic offensive, named Operation Typhoon (German: Unternehmen Taifun), called for two pincer offensives, one to the north of Moscow against the Kalinin Front by the 3rd and 4th Panzer Armies, simultaneously severing the Moscow–Leningrad railway, and another to the south of Moscow Oblast against the Western Front south of Tula, by the 2nd Panzer Army, while the 4th Army advanced directly towards Moscow from the west. According to Andrew Roberts, Hitler's offensive towards the Soviet capital was nothing less than an 'all-out attack': "It is no exaggeration to state that the outcome of the Second World War hung in the balance during this massive attack".

Initially, the Soviet forces conducted a strategic defence of the Moscow Oblast by constructing three defensive belts, deploying newly raised reserve armies, and bringing troops from the Siberian and Far Eastern Military Districts. As the German offensives were halted, a Soviet strategic counter-offensive and smaller-scale offensive operations forced the German armies back to the positions around the cities of Oryol, Vyazma and Vitebsk, and nearly surrounded three German armies. It was a major setback for the Germans, the end of the idea of a fast German victory in the USSR. Field Marshal Walther von Brauchitsch was excused as commander of OKH, with Hitler appointing himself as Germany's supreme military commander.


9fa784  No.12539771

File: 51f5122f6f0ec26⋯.jpg (230.98 KB, 660x1096, 165:274, From Admiral To Cabin Boy ….jpg)

"A first-hand account of imprisonment without trial under Britain’s notorious World War II-era “Section 18b” regulation, written by the Admiral Sir Barry Edward Domvile, the highest ranking British armed forces officer to be detained for seeking friendship with Germany and opposing the outbreak of the war.

This book, first published in 1947, starts with a short biographical review before moving on to a geopolitical assessment of Britain’s overseas possessions. The author then discusses his efforts to create peace with Germany through his “The Link” organization, and how these efforts led to his arrest and detention in Brixton Prison for three years from 1940 to 1943.

Along the way, Domvile reviews what he saw as the major force behind the war: a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy which he called “Judmas,” which he said, “has wielded such a baneful influence in world history”—although he stated that most Freemasons were completely unaware of the plot.

Detained in a cell next door to Sir Oswald Mosley, Domvile provides a fascinating insight into the conditions and arbitrary nature of the arrest procedure, which was carried out without evidence, court proceedings, or any evidence being supplied."

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1ee40b  No.12546541


no. Hitler was always a Zionist agent.

The result would have been the same or worse.

dc6323  No.12546590

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>Hitler was always a Zionist agent.

Read mein kampf and debunked on qttdot

Keep up faggot.

b7bbf6  No.12546723


Fuck off kike

You shills have been at this for how many years now? You've been at this and got desperate to by making a huge conspiracy theory and try to shaft the blame from the jews to nazies and got called out for it you tried way to hard, then this post you are hardly trying.

Also considering the fact this board already debunked it not to long ago, might as well give up because you havent really convinced anyone.

79ddcc  No.12547168

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Hitler needed either Britain on his side (Oswald Mosley) or America to stay neutral. Furthermore the alliance with Japan should have been against the Soviet Union, not a blanket alliance, giving them permission to attack the US.

7febc7  No.12547461

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America was giving resources to Russia and England far before the allowed false flag of Pearl Harbor. Once the US had created the FED and IRS and entered into war against Germany in WWI the US was destined to do the same thing for WWII.

The problem could have been surgically removed many years ago but for centuries it has festered and the wound has gotten more and more putrid. Amputation is required where good flesh will be lost with the rotten, I wish there was another way but Whites worldwide have fought into these circumstances and will not stop until they can't fight for them anymore. The borders we see of our nations (and thereby living space) will contract until internal pressures causes them to expand again.

The worst part is that over the last century we have allowed everything we ever invented to be taught and learned by every group of people around the world and the easy science seems all final, there will be no great technological revolution that'll ensure our survival, only through the hard fighting might we get at survival and they have many more then our number and we help them all, even now and will do so for decades to come.

dc6323  No.12548497


It saddens me we fought the wrong enemy, had we decided to help hitler against the soviets things would've turned out different, the third reich would've lived up to a 1000 years and none us would need natsoc to ensure the survival of our nations and people.

Honestly you can't really blame your grandfathers fighting a war while not aware of the jew behind the (((iron curtin))) had they known, they will be storming in the white house and other companies to either kill them or kick them out.

000000  No.12548606


>Britain’s notorious World War II-era “Section 18b” regulation, written by the Admiral Sir Barry Edward Domvile, the highest ranking British armed forces officer to be detained for seeking friendship with Germany and opposing the outbreak of the war.

Britain DIDN'T win the war!


The uncomfortable truth is that from the very beginning, it was Britain which sought a conflict with Germany, not Germany with Britain.

Britain simply did not declare war in 1939 to save Europe’s Jews – indeed, our government was indifferent to their plight and blocked one of their main escape routes, to what was then British-ruled Palestine. We also did nothing to help Poland, for whose sake we supposedly declared war.

Forget, too, the ‘special relationship’ with the US: America was a jealous and resentful rival to whom we ceded our global status and naval supremacy. And Washington’s grudging backing came at a huge price – we were made to hand over the life savings of the Empire to stave off bankruptcy and surrender.

But the sad truth is that this country deliberately sought a war in the vain hope of preserving a Great Power status our rulers knew in their hearts it had already lost. The resulting war turned us into a second-rate power.


000000  No.12548617

Germany DIDN'T wanted the war!


Britain actively sought a war with Germany from the moment Hitler invaded Prague in March 1939. Even before then, there were powerful voices in the Foreign Office urging the need to assert ourselves as a Great Power.

Poland was a pretext for that war, not a reason – as was demonstrated by the fact that we did nothing to help Poland when Hitler invaded. It was an excuse for an essentially irrational, idealistic, nostalgic impulse, built largely on a need to assert Britain’s standing as a Great Power.

This goes against everything we’ve been taught to believe. But the behaviour of the Foreign Office between March 1939 – when Britain pledged to guarantee Polish independence in the Anglo-Polish alliance – and the declaration of war in September 1939 strongly backs this up. Lord Halifax’s Foreign Office, contrary to the myth that it was a nest of appeasement, had for some time been keen on a showdown with Germany, despite our grave military weakness. During this period, British officialdom descended into childish frenzies over baseless frights about non-existent German invasions of several countries in Europe.

As for Poland, Warsaw’s military government had, since 1934, had surprisingly good relations with Hitler. And many in Britain feared there was a real possibility Poland might make a deal with Germany, leaving Britain with no immediate reason to go to war in Europe.

At the end of March 1939, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain was reported to be ‘uneasy’ that our Ambassador in Warsaw could obtain no information as to the progress of negotiations during this time between Germany and Poland. Simon Newman, in his book March 1939: The British Guarantee To Poland, records Chamberlain telling the Cabinet on March 30, 1939, of his fears Polish negotiators were giving way to Germany. The British government, so often portrayed as anxious for a way out of war, was worried it would be cheated out of a confrontation it wanted to have.

Despite the Munich Agreement of 1938, when Chamberlain returned to London to rapturous crowds following a negotiated peace with Hitler, he had already begun an ambitious programme of rearmament, including the development of radar capabilities.

By the summer of 1939, he was quietly certain of war because, heavily influenced by the other supposed pacific appeaser, Lord Halifax, he had decided to bring it about. To reassert Britain’s status as a Great Power, there must be war, or at least a declaration.


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000000  No.12548784


>Das Sowjet Paradies (The Soviet Paradise), 1941

The North Star

The North Star (also known as Armored Attack in the US) is a 1943 war film produced by Samuel Goldwyn Productions and distributed by RKO Radio Pictures a unabashedly pro-Soviet propaganda film made in the USA.

It is a really grotesque distortion of living conditions under Soviet rule, were the US audience was suggested that the people forced to live under communism are enjoying an all-american comfy live style.

Of course the Germans of the film are bloodsucking monster (blood lible!), the jewish maker of the film projecting their actions into the Germans.


Walter Duranty was The New York Times correspondent in Moscow from 1922 until 1936,

a role that, for a time, made him relatively rich and famous. Duranty enormously useful to the regime, which went out of its way to ensure that Duranty lived well in Moscow. He had a large flat, kept a car and a mistress, had the best access of any correspondent, and twice received coveted interviews with Stalin.

His missives from Moscow made him one of the most influential journalists of his time.

In 1932, his series of articles on the successes of collectivization and the Five Year Plan won him the Pulitzer Prize.

Soon afterward, Franklin Roosevelt, then the governor of New York, invited Duranty to the governor’s mansion in Albany, where the Democratic presidential candidate peppered him with queries. “I asked all the questions this time. It was fascinating,” Roosevelt told another reporter.

Duranty himself discussed the famine with William Strang, a diplomat at the British embassy, in late 1932. Strang reported back drily that the New York Times correspondent had been “waking to the truth for some time,” although he had not “let the great American public into the secret.”

Duranty also told Strang that he reckoned “it quite possible that as many as 10 million people may have died directly or indirectly from lack of food,” though that number never appeared in any of his reporting.

Jones … A few days later, on March 30, he appeared in Berlin at a press conference probably arranged by Paul Scheffer, a Berliner Tageblatt journalist who had been expelled from the USSR in 1929. He declared that a major famine was unfolding across the Soviet Union

Malcolm Muggeridge, at the time the correspondent for the Manchester Guardian, had just smuggled three articles about the famine out of the country via diplomatic bag. The Guardian published them anonymously, with heavy cuts made by editors who disapproved of his critique of the USSR, and, appearing at a moment when the news was dominated by Hitler’s rise to power, they were largely ignored.

On March 31, just a day after Jones had spoken out in Berlin, Duranty himself responded. “Russians Hungry But Not Starving,” read the New York Times headline.

Duranty continued, using an expression that later became notorious: “To put it brutally—you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.” He went on to explain that he had made “exhaustive inquiries” and concluded that “conditions are bad, but there is no famine.”

“Russians Hungry But not Starving” became the accepted wisdom. It also coincided nicely with the hard political and diplomatic considerations of the moment.

As 1933 turned into 1934 and then 1935, Europeans grew even more worried about Hitler. By the end of 1933, the new Roosevelt administration was actively looking for reasons to ignore any bad news about the Soviet Union.

The president’s team had concluded that developments in Germany and the need to limit Japanese expansion meant that it was time, finally, for the United States to open full diplomatic relations with Moscow.

Roosevelt’s interest in central planning and in what he thought were the USSR’s great economic successes—the president read Duranty’s reporting carefully—encouraged him to believe that there might be a lucrative commercial relationship too.

Eventually a deal was struck. Litvinov arrived in New York to sign it—accompanied by Duranty. At a lavish banquet for the Soviet foreign minister at the Waldorf Astoria, Duranty was introduced to the 1,500 guests. He stood up and bowed. Loud applause followed.


c43762  No.12550312

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2539c1  No.12569831

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German newsreel about the beginning of the Eastern Front (English subtitles)

b9b84d  No.12590064


>America was giving resources to Russia and England





“The Rockefeller enterprise eventually agreed to pay a minor fine “for having betrayed America” but was allowed to continue its profitable commerce with the enemies of the United States. 60 A tentative investigation into IBM’s arguably treasonous activities in the land of the Nazi enemy was similarly aborted because the US needed IBM technology as much as the Nazis did. Edwin Black writes: “IBM was in some ways bigger than the war.” Both sides could not afford to proceed without the company’s all-important technology. “Hitler needed IBM. So did the Allies.” (Black, 333, and 348) Uncle Sam briefly wagged a finger at Standard Oil and IBM, but most owners and managers of corporations who did business with Hitler were never bothered at all. The connections of ITT’s Sosthenes Behn with Nazi Germany, for example, were a public secret in Washington, but he never experienced any difficulties as a result of them. Meanwhile, it would appear that the headquarters of the Western Allies were keen to go as easy as possible on the American-owned enterprises in Germany. According to German expert Hans G. Helms, Bernard Baruch, a high-level advisor to President Roosevelt, had given the order not to bomb certain factories in Germany, or to bomb them only lightly; it is hardly surprising that the branch plants of American corporations fell into this category. And indeed, while Cologne’s historical city centre was flattened in repeated bombing raids, the large Ford factory on the outskirts of the city enjoyed the reputation of being the safest place in town during air attacks, although some bombs did of course occasionally fall on its properties.” (Billstein et al, 98-100)

William Randolph Hearst for example. In the mid 1930s he was one of the richest men in the world due to his yellow-news outlets; 25 daily newspapers, 24 weekly newspapers, 12 radio stations, 2 world news services, one business providing news items for films, the Cosmopolitan film company, and a lot of others. In 1948 he bought one of the US’s first TV stations, BWAL – TV in Baltimore. In 1934 he visited Nazi Germany where he was personally received by Hitler as a guest and friend. His anti-communist ranting only ramped up afterwards, publishing repeated articles about the 'holodomor' starvation in Ukraine and blaming it solely on communist brutality. The articles were debunked as fraud, but their legacy remains today, fed by and feeding into the claim's jingoistic attitude.

b9b84d  No.12590065



Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by the Associated Press. Prescott Bush was a firm believer in eugenics, (the study of genetic improvement through selecting parents, or racial superiority) which was very common among the influential families at the start of the twentieth century… of course we are all more than familiar with the eugenics 'studies' done by the Nazis.

William E. Dodd, U.S. Ambassador to Germany in 1937 said, “… I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi Regime.”

Which 'ruling families' was he referring to? In the end, Prescott was convicted by the U.S. government under the Trading With The Enemy Act in 1942 and fined one million dollars. Brown Brothers Harriman's affiliate Union Bank - of which Prescott was the director - had invested huge sums of money into Thyssen Steel, the backbone of Nazi steel production.

August Thyssen, an affluent German industrialist, lost much of his corporate empire to the harsh Treaty of Versailles after WWI. Vowing this would never happen again, he founded three banks in three countries: The August Thyssen Bank in Berlin, Bank voor Handel en Scheepuaart in Rotterdam, Holland, and Union Banking Corp. in New York City. Using money channeled through these three banks, Thyssen financed the rise of the Nazi party and their front-man Adolf Hitler, ruling Nazi steel production along side Krupp (whom I referred to previously), profited from the mining of coal by Jewish slaves, and financed concentration camps including Auschwitz. In 1937, while director of Union Bank, Prescott hired Allen Dulles to 'cloak' his accounts; Allen obviously didn't do that great of a job because in 1942 the U.S. Alien Property Custodian froze Union Bank's accounts. 'Coincidentally,' Allen Dulles was appointed U.S. Intelligence Chief in post-war Germany while he was also the lawyer representing Thyssen's bank in Holland. This ensuing cover-up may have saved Prescott from further penalty stemming from proper investigation. In 1951, Prescott reclaimed Union Bank fr