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0712dc  No.11651293

Since it won't be a Turkroach sponsored circlejerk and we can actually have differing opinions, let's discuss World War 2.

Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

Why was Italy so useless?

Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

6ede7f  No.11651315

The axis was doomed from the start and hopelessly out manned from day 1


0712dc  No.11651334

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>11651315

I meant to link this video, but the primary reason for defeat is the lack of oil. German had trucks, tanks, bomber, fighters, the whole nine-yards, but lacked oil. Thus they couldn't use hardly any of it and relied on horses for a lot of their logistics.


383325  No.11651363

File: 02f80d524081618⋯.jpg (213.59 KB, 1400x947, 1400:947, 02f80d524081618850466e99f4….jpg)

>>11651315

If i can discuss this, i have a single and simple question. Try to answer it from an objective perspective:

Was invading / retaking Poland, a bad decision taken by the natsoc germans?

Would WW2 have been averted, or at least delayed a few years, if not for this?

Take into account that germans were researching for atomic bombs, so if they have had gained a few years, it would have literally turned the tables in the upcoming war.


0712dc  No.11651386

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>>11651363

I think so. Knowing when to restrain yourself is just as important as knowing when to strike. Hell you could go a step farther and question whether invading all the other countries prior to Poland was a good idea. Imagine what the outcome would've been had Germany been rather Isolationist in military terms, similar to the US. Granted I don't know how well that would've worked considering the US is across the Atlantic, it's only neighbors being the canucks to the north and the Mexicans to the South, and not the powderkeg that is the entirety of Europe.


6d0c75  No.11651403

>>11651386

Yeah, it was not like the german minorities in the pre WW1 german territories in Poland were getting persecuted by the polish state. If you're running an ethnonationalist state, you kind of have to resolve that. Diplomatic actions failed, and the rest is history.


4e202c  No.11651412

>>11651363

nigger try to understand a few important driving forces as to why Hitler did what he did in the east. Poland was killing swarths of ethnic germans & refused to stop


796cfc  No.11651487

File: 693e826df1e0f84⋯.png (440.15 KB, 1489x1423, 1489:1423, xcKyTvu.png)

>>11651363

>was stopping the genocide of your people after Poland REPEATEDLY IGNORED YOUR CALLS FOR A DEMOCRATIC PLEBISCITE the wrong thing to do

No.

>Would WW2 have been averted, or at least delayed a few years, if not for this?

No. Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany. And Stalin was planning to invade all of Europe. Averted, no. Delayed, barely. And the communists would have won even harder.

>>11651386

> Hell you could go a step farther and question whether invading all the other countries prior to Poland was a good idea.

All none of them, you mean. You're fucking retarded.


0712dc  No.11651509

>>11651487

>All none of them, you mean. You're fucking retarded.

<What is Czechoslovakia

<What is Lithuania


796cfc  No.11651533

>>11651509

So no, you know nothing about the leadup to WWII and are mentally fucking disabled. Got it.


4e202c  No.11651538

>>11651509

no he's right. you are retarded. Lithuania was not Germanys concern until later in the war and regaining german parts of Czechoslovakia was a diplomatic process


0712dc  No.11651588

>>11651533

>>11651538

The Ethnic-German parts of Czechoslovakia were peacefully acquired through the Munich Pact, yes, however Bohemia and Moravia were not.


15f42d  No.11651641

>>11651509

I see nothing wrong with acquiring the ethnic parts of Czechoslovakia, and eliminating the country itself was justified, the less enemies you face on your border the better.

They forced Lithuania to secede the Memel region which voted with overwhelming majority National Socialist, was also mostly ethnically german and had been part of the Reich before.

Lithuania was invaded by Soviet Russia, and the Germans were welcomed as liberators by the Lithuanians during their march through the country as part of Operation Barbarossa.


a476cf  No.11651650

>>11651334

Some anon on here a while back explained they lost because their communications were deciphered fairly on and even despite this they still had a 3/1 K/D ratio


0712dc  No.11651680

File: 1e93af1a36da908⋯.jpg (839.57 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, nn_01_mt_elliot_rodgers_14….jpg)

>>11651641

Oh yea, make no mistake is that I'm not necessarily saying that all these decisions are bad, but moreso pondering what-if scenarios on what could've happen hindsight is 20/20.

The re-acquisition of the Sudetenland was done peacefully and diplomatically, and there was nothing wrong in that decision, however invading the rest of Czechoslovakia didn't win Hitler any favors diplomatically with other countries.


855263  No.11651694

Irving's Hitler's war should be required reading to be able to post in this thread.


31c049  No.11651702

I've never really agreed with a common thing that I see here which is anons getting pissy with the average solider for the Allies and how they're "traitors". WW2 was such a different time, information was so much slower to pass through to people and trust in what the government was such much higher. I just can't get mad at some farm boy from some place in rural Texas or Virginia -who barely has a high school education (if that) who hears that his country has been attacked and that Europe is being taken over- and decides to go off to fight, see the world and serve his country. Sure, I'd bet that 95% of them would be appalled to see what has happened to their countries and I bet a large percentage of them would have likely supported the other side as a result but looking at their perspective through a 21st century POV has always seemed silly.


15f42d  No.11651830

>>11651702

I don't see anyone here getting pissy over the average american, brit or frenchman, it's why the entire war is such a tragedy, men of all ages and countries forced to fight eachother so the kikes can use them in their twisted game and win.


855263  No.11651831

>>11651293

You know what. Read Hitler's revolution. It has a lot of great info on the pre-war situation with Germany's neighbouring countries.


1776b8  No.11651919

Hitler spread his army too thin trying to invade the Soviet border. Not to mention all the men and materials he wasted in Norway. Watching the documentary series Nazi Mega Weapons (or Mega Structures) and you'll be like wow Nazis were amazing engineers but Hitler was a moron for building shit in all the wrong places. The amount of concrete he wasted in Norway that was never fired upon is insane.


31c049  No.11652000

>>11651830

I don't mean in this thread but I've seen those sentiments posted here a ton of times.


e741ae  No.11652013

File: e42e322b96e0e38⋯.png (170.02 KB, 2021x894, 2021:894, dunkirk.png)

Why the fuck did Hitler allow the Brits at Dunkirk to escape? Had he got them, the Brits would have been done. If it's because he wanted peace with Britain, Hitler was a weak leader.


c43873  No.11652211

>>11652013

You almost sound like that spammer that kept making those "Germans are the real jews!" threads.


f70a4f  No.11652234

File: 8b7af26f9c21a60⋯.jpg (111.03 KB, 525x700, 3:4, 14 88459513274.jpg)

File: 4f683d1257f2186⋯.png (2.53 KB, 341x78, 341:78, Untitledd.png)

I have the biggest folder.

prove me wrong


1af513  No.11652383

File: eb6814faf3cfb0c⋯.png (5.17 MB, 6212x3108, 1553:777, After-the-War.png)

>>11651293

>>11651293

>WW2 as is, was a mistake.

<Hitler should have focused on supporting a coup in Britain by Oswald Mosley. With Britain on his side, the world could be split between the Axis powers.

This map is aesthetic though…


fc4c43  No.11652437

>>11651293

>Why was Italy so useless?

Their military was weakened from Mussolini's previous campaigns. He asked Hitler to hold off for a few years while he rebuilt it, but Hitler ignored him and started invading other countries anyway. Mussolini was pissed that Hitler didn't consult him before invading, so he invaded Greece without consulting Hitler just to get back at him.


55a532  No.11652603

>>11651403

>Yeah, it was not like the german minorities in the pre WW1 german territories in Poland were getting persecuted by the polish state

Same thing happened with German minorities in Tyrol, Italy, yet Hitler didn't do anything.

>>11651487

>Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany

It was a reaction to what was planned and what ended up happening.

>With Poland we come now to the core of the Eastern problem. The existence of Poland is intolerable and incompatible with Germany's vital interests. She must disappear and will do so through her own inner weakness and through Russia — with our help. Poland is more intolerable for Russia than for ourselves; Russia can never tolerate Poland. With Poland collapses one of the strongest pillars of the Peace of Versailles, France's advance post of power [is lost]. The attainment of this objective must be one of the firmest guiding principles of German policy, as it is capable of achievement — but only through Russia or with her help

Hans von Seeckt, 1922


f03a66  No.11652658

File: 287cf7793324e61⋯.mp4 (4.05 MB, 476x268, 119:67, deleting the jews.mp4)

>>11651650

Eh, kind of. The Engima was cracked many times, but it had updates and wasn't consistently broken till about 1943. Even then, the Kriegsmarine never really had the levels of infiltration of their encryption the way that the Wehrmacht did.


796cfc  No.11652676

>>11652603

>reaction to what was planned

No. Hitler loved Poland's leader and there was no animosity with the poles beyond restoring German lands. Shit from 1922 has nothing to do with Nazi Germany or Hitler's plans. He wanted an alliance with Poland to attack the USSR.


55a532  No.11652975

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>>11652658

>beyond restoring German lands.

Which wasn't going to happen under any condition. He only liked Piłsudski to buy Germany more time, Haller wanted to invade straight away, in 1936 where we could've done some serious, serious damage, in reaction to the German nation rearming the Rhine and threatening France but Hitlers pandering ended up swaying Piłsudski, so he refused, believing there could be peace.

>He wanted an alliance with Poland to attack the USSR

He wanted to bleed us out, for one, because the USSR offered to invade Germany with us, and secondly, because the Weimar government pior offered to recognize us if we (attempt) to liberate Estonia (with Germany) and Ukraine (alone), the very event that sparked off the Polish-Soviet war, the goal of the Weimar government was for us to loose so that they could annex us without repercussions (this is also why they pressured the Czechoslovaks to block Hungarian reinforcements for us); the NatSoc German government hoped we would loose this time so that they could continue their ambition without looking bad (if we lost) while making us look like the aggressors. The Germans were very good at engineering wars to achieve what they want.


ee6351  No.11653016

Ambassador to England, Joe Kennedy, said Churchill wanted London to be bombed, and he had warned that he would engage in false flag attacks to provoke the war.

Actor, Norman Shelley, was giving speeches, not Churchill. He was a double with a clearer voice. Churchill was always drunk and would slur his words, so they needed an actor.

NYT suppressed it and received Pulitzer Prize for the false journalism on the area deliberately meant to suppress the genocide. USA would've never allied with Stalin in WW2 if knew about the genocide. Malcolm Muggeridge reported on it and suggested that the NYT should get all its Pulitzer prizes revoked because it was a malevolent organization. Gareth Jones also reported on the genocide.

Dachau - fake gas chamber was constructed by CD Jackson and Hollywood directors. The films were made by Alfred Hitchcock and Billy Wilder. Bulldozed bodies were bombing victims. Nuremberg Trials were designed by Murray Bernays, the nephew of Edward Bernays, to give the impression of a trial despite the defendants not being allowed to present evidence in their defense. The Red Cross estimated only 100,000 dead kikes.


ee6351  No.11653029

Hitler supported Poland, but their government was antagonistic against the Germans, so he was left with no options. The previous government would have joined the Axis Powers.


55a532  No.11653062

>>11653016

Churchill became an MP in 1940, when England had already declared war on Germany. Before that, he was effectively a nobody, his opinion didn't matter. England carried out a more than lenient policy forwards Germany: not only did they campaign for Germany to keep Silesia prior to the wars brake out, but they recognized all of Germany's further territorial gains, going as far as to offer them their past colonial possessions (such as Namibia) if they stopped at that.

>The Red Cross estimated only 100,000 dead kikes

Its ~200 000, and it only accounts for those dug up or found, the rest were cremated to combat thypus and get rid of disease, not counting others in Western concentration camps or massacres, that, per Germanys own law, still count as a causality in the "holocaust" as the term envelopes all that happened against the jewish people on occupied territory.

>>11653029

>The previous government would have joined the Axis Powers

Not a chance.


1312aa  No.11653076

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a90c67  No.11653170

>>11653161

delete this


545c95  No.11653188

>>11651293

>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

On the day of the larp, people like you will be burned alive.


cdb423  No.11653382

>>11652211

The English are unironically the real Jews.


383325  No.11653419

File: d236b640b238bbe⋯.jpg (73.58 KB, 634x744, 317:372, time_magazine_hitler.jpg)

>>11651487

>No. Poland (at Britain's behest) was already drawing up plans for the invasion of Nazi Germany. And Stalin was planning to invade all of Europe. Averted, no. Delayed, barely. And the communists would have won even harder.

So, now that we know Hitler lost, you still think he did the right moves?

If he restrained from "invading" (rather, retaking lost territory) the places he went for pre-WW2, then the anglos would have had a harder chance at manipulating public opinion about the war.

False flags would have happened, of course, but would have they been enough to drive England into war with non-invading, non-expansionist Natsoc Germany?

My main point here is that, if WW2 would have been delayed for 2 to 5 years, Germany would have won.

Not expanding German territory would have served this purpose of not looking like the "evil menace of Europe", mainly for the Americans who don't understand anything on the other side of the world.

Knowing that Germany lost, i cannot help but think Hitler did misscalculated on the response of the allies.

Also, natsoc Germany should have created propaganda against Soviets, and distribute this to America, and so would have gained USA sympathy.


e741ae  No.11653708

>>11652211

Not an arguement. It's a silly screencap I know but tell me why he held back at Dunkirk?


8cdc64  No.11654366

>>11651315

No they weren't. There are many events that could have gone differently and led to their victory. As brilliant as Hitler was, he had some key weaknesses, like his loyalty to "friends", an optimistic view of relations with Britain, and an unnecessarily brutal treatment of Slavs that contributed significantly to Germany's defeat. Disloyalty in the command structure was a major problem that cost Germany things like the capture of Soviet oil sources, and the encirclenment of Moscow (field marshalls instead chose to waste men and resources on a frontal attack on the city against Hitler's orders). The assassination attempt on Hitler that came closest to succeeding involved dozens of people in powerful positions in the Reich (most of whom were in turn executed for their betrayal).

Outside of outright sabotage was a tendency towards incompetence and corruption with misuse of resources, and mismanagement in various areas important to German victory. Goring (in charge of the Luftwaffe) frequently failed to meet deadlines, and was often found using funds for his own personal enjoyment (very common with others as well, including Goebbels).

Of course maybe there was a way to achieve propaganda victory without having gone to WW2, but even having gone to war, there's many a thing that could have been done differently to give Hitler the victory he sought.


62e19a  No.11654374

>>11651315

>>11651315

Germany raped most of Europe in record time


6ede7f  No.11654442

>>11654374

And? That doesn't change the fact they were outgunned.

The war outside of Asia was basically Germany fighting

>Greece

>most of North Africa

>the USSR

>the USA

>France

>the UK

>Australia and every other commonwealth country

>towards the end of the war I'm fairly sure even a few south American countries declared war

US war movies paint a picture of the plucky allies defeating an impossible enemy. The reality was the Germans fighting like hell against an almost unwinable war and almost winning.


2401c8  No.11654469

NO MERCY EVER AGAIN


8cdc64  No.11654485

File: 965e976f5eddce8⋯.jpg (116.92 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 5d0ef5f6a805aaa6bd94d17c23….jpg)


2401c8  No.11654517

File: 690736db273676f⋯.png (72.84 KB, 266x158, 133:79, eternal_life.png)

>>11654485

good stuff and moar


2382c4  No.11654650

I think its obligatory to say the least to bring up the fact that Hitler played by the rules to a tee, whilst the allied forces degenerately raped and mind fucked the german people to extinction. The carpet bombing on the scale that the allies implemented was disgusting. No matter how hitler would have played it, the jews hate the aryans, the jews had already controlled every side of the fence. No matter how put off or isolationist hitler could have been, it would never have been enough. His hatred was well placed on the jews and he did all he could, not blackpilling but we just arent mentally or dimensionally ready to take them out, we would need a fucking miracle to level the playing field. A solar flare to drop electricity and communications followed by the greatest ethnic cleansing mankind has ever seen. A complete scrubbing of the soulless pyscopathic kikes. All of which just cannot happen while they controll the five eyes, the money and oil, and undoubtably all the fucking nukes.

Also hellstorm docco - https://youtu.be/Ck-TEamhLBk

Already in another thread so I cannot embed


2401c8  No.11654737

we are most certainly ready to take them out yet it has to be in simplistic terms instead of word salad the intellectuals appreciate we keep it simple for the simple minded that have no Idea how the parasite jews have fucked them until slow bread crumb red pills until they think they figured it out for themselves when we knew all along.


41390b  No.11654748

File: ccfaee2ccb2779e⋯.png (65.85 KB, 261x248, 261:248, nikoi.png)

Stop betraying us. Please.


2401c8  No.11654814

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b5e57d  No.11654825

>>11652676

Hitler allying with USSR was a big mistake, letting USSR invading Poland alone would mean that (((alies))) have obligatory to save Poland ass but of course alies wont do shit, this will force desperate Poland to seek help from Natsoc Germany and Hitler could demand Danzig in exchange. To the world Germany aiding Poland VS USSR would have a good reputation to the normies and normies will be like i want to be a fucking Fash kill all the fucking commies ,fuck those allies ,fuck my goverments leader who dint help the polish people. the kike will say to the masse oy vey goyim you gonna fight the Nathzee to save those poor commies that attack weaker country like Poland ,the people of europe, americas wont give a shit about those warmonger and wont risk theirs life for commies.


2401c8  No.11654842

>>11654825

irrelevant we are faced with different circumstances than the germans as much as I appreciate knowledge of old shit I must respectfully say fuck all that lets deal with here and NOW.


2401c8  No.11654871

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


5e6340  No.11654957

>>11651386

EIN VOLK! EIN REICH!

Read the book!


b00d14  No.11655009

File: 9deec94dd77cb1c⋯.jpg (71.75 KB, 634x802, 317:401, article-2245321-166BD5DC00….jpg)

>>11651293

>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

The whole point of those moves was defeating communism. Hitler's main goal for WW2 was defeating communism, not Bongland. And he was willing to sacrifice his own people.

By forcing the Allies to fight on the communist side he exposed them for what they are.

And he forced Stalin to change the communist block into a pan-slavic union. "For the motherland" was a nationalistic slogan, something that was a big no no under communism.

The fact that the Eastern Block died in 89' was due to Hitler preventing the initial plans of invading Western Europe, exhausting them for the next 20 years and then locking themselves into the before mentioned pan-slavic union where they just cannibalized themselves due to True Communism.

Communism needs new victims to suck life out of.

>Why was Italy so useless?

Italians are shit fighters to begin with. The army was underequipped, badly structured and had moronic leadership. Mussolini f.e. ordered the invasion of Greece against all reason.

>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

Yes. Not bombing the British high command for their high treason of the British people.


9cc219  No.11655023

File: 79915f2afad9390⋯.png (13.31 KB, 422x206, 211:103, Screenshot from 2018-04-01….png)

File: 8c7c09598d03e71⋯.png (13.52 KB, 389x224, 389:224, Screenshot from 2018-05-30….png)

>>11652234

I have 100s of gigabytes of WW2 content, your folder is nothing in comparison to any of mine.


b00d14  No.11655095

>>11652013

>Why the fuck did Hitler allow the Brits at Dunkirk to escape?

Chivalry and goodwill. If the same situation happened to France in WW1, they would be suing for peace even before the Germans stepped into the vicinity of Paris. The Allies were soundly defeated on all accounts and he gave them their army back so they wouldn't lose the colonies.

The Brits of course acted like commie jews and had no intention to sue for peace. They were in fact the first that started with the mobilization of their economy and population for total war in 1940.

>>11652603

>Same thing happened with German minorities in Tyrol, Italy, yet Hitler didn't do anything.

[Citation needed]

>>11651403 Poles were massacring Germans on purpose to drag Germany into war. Caring for ethnic Germans was perceived as Hitler's "weak point".

Italy was friendly to Germany and had no reason to do so.

>>11652975

>The Germans were very good at engineering wars to achieve what they want.

Sure thing, it certainly wasn't (((them))), eh commie.

>>11653062

>Before that, he was effectively a nobody, his opinion didn't matter.

>nobody

Kek anon, at least show some knowledge. He was the first lord of the admiralty. Head of the British Navy,

And also the reason Norway got invaded as he fucked up. Many protested his appointment solely because of this. But he was appointed the same way that Theresa May was.

>>11654825

>Hitler allying with USSR was a big mistake

Taking out Poland was clearing the battlefield of rocks and bumps. They both knew they would be at each other's throats.

The story that Stalin was surprised is bullshit. That mass of arms on your borders isn't going to be unnoticed. Especially due to the fact that the Soviet intelligence operation put the German and Allied counterparts to shame.

What maybe surprised Stalin was the effectiveness and final reach of the German war machine. His purges were probably a big factor in all of this since you don't want to disappoint the head comrade about the bad condition of your otherwise perfect army.

But you could also argue that one of Stalin's strategies was to load Germany with so much war prisoners that the war effort suffers as a consequence.


b00d14  No.11655097

>>11655023

And yet you contributed nothing to the thread.


c12e11  No.11655115

File: dad59ce40afae54⋯.png (14.08 KB, 422x198, 211:99, Screenshot from 2018-05-30….png)

File: ebc5d859c8722c4⋯.png (161.73 KB, 577x377, 577:377, WW2.png)

File: bd366c96b4cb83a⋯.png (162.42 KB, 1240x537, 1240:537, WW2 Anon 1.png)

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File: 99b6a44dfc207d9⋯.png (52.1 KB, 1234x343, 1234:343, WW2 M-R pact.png)

>>11655097

I'll make a zip of my Uncle Adolfs and I don't have much to say other than what other anons have already pointed out and these screencaps.


c12e11  No.11655118

File: a58736ba0e7fdae⋯.png (21.96 KB, 1226x144, 613:72, WW2 aftermath.png)

File: a54c3cb43a4b7ff⋯.png (195.98 KB, 1230x416, 615:208, WW2 Japanese 1.png)

File: 06d3a5ef4bc7a6d⋯.png (32.17 KB, 1203x215, 1203:215, WW2 Japanese 2.png)

File: c2da207b0056768⋯.png (33.25 KB, 1194x211, 1194:211, WW2 Japanese 3.png)

File: 9a0e26e9c9059b3⋯.png (25.44 KB, 1244x113, 1244:113, WW2 9-11 tactic.png)


1bba10  No.11655120

File: c30d9d77787bf69⋯.jpg (26.27 KB, 560x413, 80:59, 44_01.jpg)

>>11651293

With none of todays hindsight theres 2 major ones which should have been no brainers:

1. Turning the Panzers on AG Centre axis south to Kiev and not continuing drive to Moscow. Literally no major troop formations in the way.

2. Attempting talks for a conditional surrender with Allies in August '43 or Jan '44. OR unconditional surrender in Sep '44.

Think about point 2. before you come back at me with some weak dribble about 'defeatism'.


c12e11  No.11655130

File: 901e40de34b2ac0⋯.png (62.03 KB, 1269x289, 1269:289, WW2 and lend-lease.png)

File: bbb3c2a57f1e727⋯.png (25.92 KB, 1218x168, 29:4, WW2 Stalingrad Strategy.png)

File: 17e3f84d8d145e7⋯.png (283.62 KB, 1245x449, 1245:449, WW2 Always kill a traitor ….png)

File: 5894add21074983⋯.png (109.57 KB, 793x446, 793:446, Italy in WW2.png)

File: be05797b52610c4⋯.png (15.89 KB, 820x100, 41:5, Chemical and Biological we….png)

>>11655120

>a conditional surrender with Allies in August '43 or Jan '44. OR unconditional surrender in Sep '44.

That was never an option, it was either Total Victory or capitulation to International Jewry which could not be tolerated.


8cdc64  No.11655163

>>11654899

Propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels criticized the treatment of slavs with good reason. Germany could have entered Russia as saviors, and increased their manpower every step of the way, but instead they shit on the people that were already poorly treated by the Bolsheviks/Soviets and created another problem in what turned out to be a disastrous campaign.


b00d14  No.11655164

>>11655120

>Turning the Panzers on AG Centre axis south to Kiev

Baku oilfields were in all honesty more important. Or at least cutting the railway hub(Stalingrad) to cut the oil supply off.

Moscow was important for production but that would stall if oil wasn't supplied.

>conditional surrender

It was unconditional surrender since 39' anon. Conditional surrender meant Hitler would survive.


1bba10  No.11655197

File: a280b35ea5ae9fc⋯.jpg (332.55 KB, 1369x938, 1369:938, R1VOpmO.jpg)

pic is FJs in 1945 being used as snipers. Interesting choice of G-43s with scopes.

>>11655130

Total Victory wasnt happening after Kursk and Capitulation to ZoGs happened in 1945 anyway.

With a functioning army in in 43-44 something better could have been scraped. Maybe even a Soviet defeat with allies.

>>11655164

Youre thinking summer offensive '42. Fall Blau. Im talking 1941 pre Kiev pocket.


3768c3  No.11655210

>>11655197

It could of if Adolf eliminated the unfaithful generals sooner, started nuclear weapons research earlier and use Chemical weapons to stop allied from getting a foothold in normandy.


abb598  No.11655260

File: 8c42c6b5507c6ae⋯.jpg (44.63 KB, 800x558, 400:279, 1941 Walter Model.jpg)

Real talk time

Army group north retains panzer army 4 and pushes to encircle lake lagoda thereby isolating leningrad from supply. Reinhard and Manstein link up with the Fins instead of diverting to AG centre for OP typhoon.

Army group center drives and encircles Moscow (feasible, no mud) by not wasting time north of Kiev. Panzer army 2 & 3 can use Moscow as a safe haven during winter of 41 and rotate defensive duties as necessary. Rail gauges are convered in time to dump supply in the city.

Army group south drive to Rostov and dig in. Refiting until summer.

This kills the soviet.


b8ec84  No.11655261

File: 444baeb1062ab25⋯.jpg (155.4 KB, 640x669, 640:669, 1505983634934.jpg)

>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland

The poles murdered 70k ethnic Germans in Danzig

>and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Hitler unified the part of Czechoslovakia inhabited by Germans into the Reich, and recognized the ethnically Czech portion as an autonomous state.

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries

UK and France declared war on the Third Reich, not visa versa.

>and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

The Third Reich was already the most prosperous nation on earth.

>Why was Italy so useless?

Italy had no army until 1860, and was still getting their shit together. They performed as well as could possibly be expected of them considering their experience and resources.


8cdc64  No.11655272

>>11655261

Italy was divided in its command structure. Mussolini had to contend with the King, which no doubt limited the effectiveness of the military. Still, Italy's defeats are embarrassing blemishes on the country's history. So many of their failures were achieved whilst having superior numbers and armaments.


e16c62  No.11655283

>>11655261

>The poles murdered 70k ethnic Germans in Danzig

Any hard proof besides hearsay and wishful thinking?

>Hitler unified the part of Czechoslovakia inhabited by Germans into the Reich, and recognized the ethnically Czech portion as an autonomous state.

An autonomous state under german rule. A step too far after taking the sudetenland and splitting the slovaks from the czechs. Strategically sound as a way to prevent commies from using it as a springboard though.

>Italy had no army until 1860, and was still getting their shit together. They performed as well as could possibly be expected of them considering their experience and resources.

Japan fared much better while being more backwards and having less experience fighting western armies and modernising later.


abb598  No.11655460

File: a57157957934bc5⋯.png (296.1 KB, 604x445, 604:445, Off duty.png)

>>11651334

Not entierly true. Trucks were always in short supply, and mechanical losses were often higher than replacement rates. They were also outnumbered in the air 4/1, tanks 3/1.

Romanian oil was more than enough to fill the fuel tanks, but the problem was that the Soviets were far more powerful than anticipated. Guderian had convinced the OKH that there resided only 10'000 tanks across the border. The actual figure was closer to 20'000. Everything that went wrong after '41 simply has to do with the fact that the Germans miscalculated their position.


41dc38  No.11656026

>>11653062

>being this blatant of a kike

No, the camps were not all kikes. In fact, most 'people' in them were not. By the way, we know giant crematoriums did not exist.

Notice how this kike lied about Churchill's instigation of the war against Germany. Why would he do that? Notice all the contradictions in his post. First, he makes the outlandish claim that Churchill had no power despite the facts in the post he replied to dispelled that already. Then he says England supported Germany (kikes feel the need to fully all Whites) until they suddenly declared war for no apparent reason. The kike wants you to believe this makes more sense.

>>11655163

This seems like the true folly.


19862f  No.11656063

>>11655283

>Japan fared much better while being more backwards and having less experience fighting western armies and modernising later.

Well, Italians by their national character were not well suited to the rigours and demands of the WW1-to-WW2 style of warfare. Individually very brave and capable, but not as disciplinable as the Japs. In modern hybrid/semi-guerilla warfare they should perform much better, IF they have good leadership.


a25029  No.11656397

>>11653419

Despite the memes, the US population were neutral until pearl harbor. The US govt was not. (Embargoes, attacking axis ships)


1bba10  No.11658429

File: 99477d665ed35f7⋯.jpg (46.74 KB, 500x434, 250:217, FSJ975097099e79e75cfa99922….jpg)

>>11655260

See this could have been a war winning move. '41 was the time to win. No shifting forces around. Especially Panzer armies. Push, push, push. Kinda what i was getting at in my posts.

Hitler was an idiot getting mad at Rundstedt. There was no incompetence on Rundstedts part. AG South hit serious opposition and was slowed down compared to the other AGs. Panzers should have stayed north and center. 2-3 months of gains were lost.


000000  No.11658827

>>11655163

>>11654899

>Germany could have entered Russia as saviors, and increased their manpower every step of the way, but instead they shit on the people that were already poorly treated by the Bolsheviks/Soviets and created another problem in what turned out to be a disastrous campaign.

That is totally bullshit.

They were enemy civilians.

Being nice to the enemy is not reciprocated, see, France, Denmark, Norway.

Ukrainians didn’t turn immediately against Germany, but their retarded militant politics fucked up the hinterland of the front (murders), no occupying power can tolerate that.

Germany acting against Slavs is just retarded commie propaganda that doesn’t become truth by repeating it.

Atrocities against civilians were solely committed by NKVD special forces AKA “partisans”.


e93a1c  No.11658957

File: e28ac778043955a⋯.jpg (176.21 KB, 595x650, 119:130, Powstanie_Warszawskie_film….jpg)

>>11655095

>[Citation needed]

Article:

<https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19390113&id=tTU1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=L6YLAAAAIBAJ&pg=4868,1686331&hl=en

>Poles were massacring Germans on purpose to drag Germany into war

[Citation needed]

>Sure thing, it certainly wasn't (((them))), eh commie

Nope.

>Kek anon, at least show some knowledge. He was the first lord of the admiralty. Head of the British Navy

Effectively a nobody, because what are you and >>11656026

>Notice how this kike lied about Churchill's instigation of the war against Germany

- implying? That he false flagged the fucking Battle of London? Lol.


e93a1c  No.11659034

>>11656026

>Then he says England supported Germany (kikes feel the need to fully all Whites) until they suddenly declared war for no apparent reason

Just how stupid are you?


e93a1c  No.11659098

>>11654899

>Be Poland invade Germany

According to legend, when Poland invaded Germany Hitler locked himself inside his room four weeks at disbelief.


000000  No.11659436

>>11659098

>>11654899

>Be Poland invade Germany

>when Poland invaded Germany Hitler locked himself inside his room four weeks at disbelief.

Hurr Durr the war started in 1939 and everything before is IRRELEVANT REEEEEEE


383325  No.11659881

File: 3f0f03f22b63cb9⋯.jpg (300.64 KB, 919x1227, 919:1227, 3f0f03f22b63cb955e1f42125f….jpg)

>>11654899

>Be Poland invade Germany

So dropping a piece of land was all that it took Hitler to be baited?

Germany should have turned isolationist and not recover / """"invade"""" Poland nor any other place, for a few more years.

Why?

Because an alliance was necessary to bring the inevitable war. And Hitler didn't play well his cards. Not approaching USA (or believing it would be neutral, when Jewnited States of America was already zion-controlled) was a big mistake on his part.

>>11654899

>Germany under attack

Defending your people inside your borders is reasonable. Declaring war to Poland and France was not. It was badly played.

Declaring war to USA was also a big mistake.

Stop trying to paint it as Hitler did nothing wrong. If not, we wouldn't be here fighting the pharisee.

Natsoc Germany should have waited a few more years until nuclear research was done, AND until a proper alliance was held in place.

If a few more years had passed, the superior atomic bomb would have been enough deterrent to stop any jewish outside force.

Don't forget that the Manhattan Project was basically jewish ex-german traitors selling german tech to USA.

Had Hitler gassed these people, or had he somehow (by methos i already detailed in this thread) delayed WWII a few more years, the war would have been won.


855263  No.11659959

>>11654825

Now this is just pure retardation


8cdc64  No.11660025

>>11658827

I'll take David Irving's word and sources over yours.


262d03  No.11661280

What many people forget is that the Polacks actually did a ethnic cleansing on ethnic Germans living in Poland, of course, pushed by a (((certain agenda))) to infuriate the German People and kickstart the war.


970a06  No.11661430

>>11652383

Why did the Japs conquer Israel? What did they possibly have to gain?


9d330e  No.11661444

>>11658444

>on USSR plans to attak Germany

USSR was without a doubt planning an attack on Germany at some point, some speculate the attack was going to take place as early as July of 1941, "Operation Thunderstorm", which was a real Soviet plan for an invasion of Germany in 1941 - for more info on this search Viktor Suvorov's book "Icebreaker", or watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9Geqf3LB8

>on death tolls

Some claim up to 30 million dead for the soviets - Stalin claimed 5 million dead or missing in 1945. Actual figure is unknown, but that is probably about accurate. Early in the war it was more like 10 to 1 until the Soviets finally haulted the Germans front of moscow.

>population

this one is bullshit - Germans had either 60 or 80 millions citizens, people in occupied territories dont really count as they didn't really fight for the Germans in the East. The most surprising aspect of the eastern front to the german soldiers and commanders was how many reserve units, even fresh armored formations the soviets seemingly pulled out of nowhere - they drafted almost every man that could walk into the army and threw them between the Germans and Moscow, so yes they had a huge advantage due to population. One interesting statistic rarely brought up is the tank losses ratio, which was normally nearly 5:1 or sometimes more, for example in 1942 the Germans destroyed 15,000 soviet tanks, and lost 2,600 - imagine destroying nearly 100,000 soviet tanks over the course of the war and losing? rough.

otherwise everything else is pretty much true I think.


6ede7f  No.11661462

>>11658444

>>11661444

At the war memorial in Staliangrad you can see the commisars sitting behind the lines with a pistol pointed at soviet soldiers. Deserters were shot.


9d330e  No.11661498

>>11659881

>>11659881

>Defending your people inside your borders is reasonable. Declaring war to Poland and France was not. It was badly played.

Hitler did not declare war on France, they declared war on Germany. Also, Hitler spent something like 9 months negotiating with Poland for the Danzig corridor, even going so far as to offer large prime pieces of upper Silesia rich with coal which the Poles had been after for years, even negotiated with the Weimar gov. for it, (and were denied) to allow the Germans to declare Danzig "a german city" (poles would still have some control of the city and receiving some taxes, etc.), He was asking for a "corridor" 12 miles wide, full of German speaking ethnic Germans, and the Poles would not budge, because they knew England was backing them, and as we know ((England)) wanted this war to happen, very very badly.

>Natsoc Germany should have waited a few more years until nuclear research was done, AND until a proper alliance was held in place.

nuclear bombs were not really a large consideration in 1939, the Americans spent billions and years of research with the worlds smartest scientists to create it, and did not build Los Alamos until 1943. Germany was not at all close to having a working bomb, and only in the beginning stages of nuclear research when the war began, not much effort or research was spent on it. but i agree with you, if they had known the power of it, you are correct.


9d330e  No.11661518

>>11661462

really? you have a pic of that? - yes deserters were certainly shot, but a majority of soviet citizens and red army soldiers wanted to fight and did so extremely courageously, in "the great patriotic war". wouldn't you fight if an army invaded your country and were killing your comrades and family members? I would.


9d330e  No.11661556

>>11658827

>>11658827

>They were enemy civilians.

Not really, most of the "citizens"/peasants were horribly mistreated by the communists who had starved them, mistreated them horribly, and lost many family members during the holomodor etc., Germans were greeted as liberators at first, and the German soldiers treated the civilians well for the most part, German soldiers on the whole were very honorable soldiers, but the German high command policy was to subjugate them, committed many "reprisals" on villages of innocent people after partisan attacks, etc. - this turned any good will they made have had to hatred.

of course there will always be partisans, but if they had acted as liberators (as a policy from the top), MANY soviet citizens would have certainly joined the Germans and helped quell the partisans and fight the red army.


9d330e  No.11661572

>>11654825

>>11654825

>desperate Poland to seek help from Natsoc Germany

you should seek help for this post.


000000  No.11661858

>>11661498

>>11659881

>>11659881

> Hitler spent something like 9 months negotiating with Poland for the Danzig corridor, even going so far as to offer

101 German history after WWI

The CORRIDOR, or the Polish corridor was a large piece of land annexed by Poland without referendum from Germany after WWI.

This piece of land connecting Danzig, Königsberg, East- and West-Germany was annexed because “Poland needs access to the Baltic sea”. So the whole point was never justice for alleged suppressed people, but the geopolitic convenience to prop up and arm an enemy of Germany.

An enemy who attacked Germany with French support short after “ceasefire and peace treaty” of Versailles.

Referendum is important because the allies claimed to fight for the right of self determination of people, to free the oppressed Polish or Czechoslovakian people. Referenda were never held about German territory looses, or that referenda were manipulated, gerrymandered (with the exception of the dispute with Denmark).

There was no referendum about the Polish corridor, because there were no Polish people living in the Corridor, Poland would loose the referendum big (like all the other too).

Hitler was willing to compromise on the Corridor issue, if Poland stops its attack on Germany, like he did in the case of Southern-Tyrol. Poland did fire at civilian Lufhansa planes on their way to Danzig.

Hitler asked Poland to have a neutral street, highway through the Corridor, to connect Danzig and East-Prussia to the rest of the Reich.

Poland never changed its hostile stance towards Germany, feeling the weakness of Germany and in confidence of French (British and US) support.


c68a70  No.11662079

File: c6b5928dbd5813c⋯.jpg (154.54 KB, 600x509, 600:509, 1507354535249.jpg)

File: 650db66d8bbe40c⋯.jpg (88.82 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 1507355532784.jpg)

File: f0dadae6fe245a4⋯.jpg (147.31 KB, 720x720, 1:1, 1507355738139.jpg)

File: 417007a69e401c9⋯.jpg (105.73 KB, 1024x558, 512:279, 1505190976077m.jpg)

>"If Europe today finds itself the victim of a serious illness, then the affected countries will either have to overcome it by summoning their entire and utmost power of resistance, or they will be doomed" Adolf Hitler 1945

If you want to understand WW2 from Hitler's point of view you must read: "Mein Kampf the Second Book", "Hitler's War" by David Irving and "Hitler's Table Talks"

and this essay is the most revealing thing you will ever read

https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

here's my account of WW2, i will try to make it as objective as i can

1939: Hitler orders the Gleiwitz false-flag as a justification to invade Poland, he invaded Poland because he wanted to save Germans who were being ethnically cleansed (Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau), he was worried about being encircled by France's allies (Poland and Czechoslovakia) and so wanted to get rid of an enemy and he wanted living space for the German people.

Hitler launched his invasion under the belief that the western powers could not retaliate because they were still re-arming themselves and Hitler entered into the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as another security against the west. during the invasion after it became clear that the western powers were going to war, his plan was then to grab as much Polish territory as possible and then sign a peace treaty, but the Western powers refused to make peace.

1940: Poland has been split between Germany and the USSR, Hitler moves his armies to west and invades the Netherlands to and invades France through Belgium, the French armies move into Belgium to meet him, but Hitler pushes through the Ardennes with his armored divisions and gets an encirclement on the British and French armies which are pushed back to Dunkirk, France capitulates and Hitler stops his armored divisions from attacking Dunkirk and lets the British troops go because he wants to make a peace treaty with Britain because he sees that Britain would lose its empire if it continues the war in Europe. Britain instead chooses to continue the war and invades Norway in an attempt to stop Germany from getting iron from Sweden, but Germany beats Britain to it and invades Denmark and Norway.

1941: With the allies driven out of Europe and Scandinavia secured the only threat now is the Soviet Union, Germany was particularly vulnerable to a Soviet attack because Romanian oilfields that fuel germany's armored divisions border the Soviet Union and Europe's high infrastructure would have allowed Soviet tanks to roll right through Europe. and so anticipating a Soviet attack, Hitler invaded first, and you must imagine that the Soviets worked only on tactical brutality, the Soviets would have invaded Europe if they had the opportunity

Hitler declared war on America in 1941, he did it because America was arming itself for war and so American entry was inevitable, Hitler had read the Polish ambassadors documents (See below), America had been funding Germany's enemies, American ships were attacking and detaining German U-boats and merchant ships and Roosevelt and Churchill plotted together to sink an American ship and blame it on German U-boats (see JFK's Dad, Joseph Kennedy). I highly recommend the essay linked below, it is the most revealing thing you will ever read

To anyone who wants to understand the reasons for America and the Allies involvement in the war you must read the documents written by the Polish Ambassadors in 1938

https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

Further Reading:

(Last Speech)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIk4sDft04A

(Last Political Testament)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9zqWiS8zTU

(Declaration of War on America)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiiHjIQu8s

(Declaration of War on USSR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDvDuPMd6fE


a80eb8  No.11662351

>>11662343

>He wanted to free Germany territory and people, defeat an arch-enemy of the German people (still today). If that involved occupying the enemy’s territory, so what. Germany didn’t annex Poland.

Yeah, he just occupies them instead the smart guy.

Didn't know Warsaw is german territory.


1f90ff  No.11662390

>>11661858

>>11662343

>>11661760

>there were no Polish people living in the Corridor

>annexing a large part of my country

Yes, polish nationality does not exist. Only subgermans/german cattle :^)

>>11662351

Yes that's German founded city like Kraków, Poznań, Toruń and any other city in Poland. At least by his (lack of) logic,


a80eb8  No.11662396

>>11662390

His only argument will be kike and shill and/or bluepill, just watch.

I really doubt these posters are even germans, they are PURE LARPers.


18a560  No.11662427

File: 4f0002056409d98⋯.jpg (70.52 KB, 800x526, 400:263, Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-G….jpg)

>>>/pfds/9227

Like him or damn him, it does look like that Hitler and the nazis were a tool in the hands of Germany's enemies, even though they were completely unaware of this. It doesn't mean that national socialism is somehow flawed, but it does mean that they were never meant to win this war.


18a560  No.11662431

File: 8669c24bb5f37af⋯.jpg (49.95 KB, 800x570, 80:57, Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-698….jpg)

>>11662427

>>>/pdfs/9227

https://8ch.net/pdfs/res/3388.html#q9227

Is cross-board posting disabled?


18a560  No.11662432

>>11662431

No, I just can't type.


c68a70  No.11662438

>>11662427

i doubt that hitler was really a secret zionist agent, if you study him closely, everything he did was for the sake of the german people, if he was an agent wouldn't he just have started a bolshevik revolution instead? why would he try to build up his country if it was all destined to fall down?


18a560  No.11662557

>>11662438

I mean that he too was a tool who didn't know that he was being used.


13c23c  No.11664839

>>11662438

The goal was to lead the German military into certain death. The kikes were just killing off as many goys as possible.


1e7e04  No.11664899

>>11664839

>Hitler was your worst enemy goyim!

You're not even trying Moishe.


1e7e04  No.11664910

>>11662438

They're shills bud.


f96280  No.11664966

>>11662343

>The “Gleiwitz incident” is nowhere mentioned in contemporary, Hitler time Germany, nor press, nor film

Why the hell would they mention it, idiot? Are you saying the jews would admit to 9/11, too? The nazis confessed to this during trial, it fit accurately with Polish report.


1e7e04  No.11664982

>>11664966

Mmm the Jews didn't admit to 911 but they sure took advantage of it. Why didn't Germany attempt to take any advantage of their alleged false flag?


9ec78a  No.11667947

>>11653029

Their government was jewed prior to WW1.

The bolsheviks had influence over the government of Poland prior to WWII.

Poles killed lots of Germans as they were ordered to under their Zionist occupied government, Germans killed lots of Poles in self defense.

After that, Ukranians killed lots more Poles under Hitler and then again under Soviet rule.


000000  No.11668004

>>11664966

>>11662343

>The “Gleiwitz incident” is nowhere mentioned in contemporary, Hitler time Germany, nor press, nor film

>Why the hell would they mention it, idiot?

Because it was supposed to be used as justification for war.

Fact is, it was never used to justify the war.

Fact is, it was never mentioned in Germany at that time.

> Are you saying the jews would admit to 9/11, too?

Do you have brain damage?

> The nazis confessed to this during trial, it fit accurately with Polish report.

Ha ha ha

Fits with other post war “confessions” and polish reports.

>>11664982

>>11664966

>Mmm the Jews didn't admit to 911 but they sure took advantage of it. Why didn't Germany attempt to take any advantage of their alleged false flag?

Logic does not apply to “nazis and their heinous crimes”, they are just evil incarnate, everything is true the allies claim and if you disagree then we smash your head, because we are the “good guys” and “freedom”.


9ec78a  No.11668028

>>11664839

That's exactly what it was about.

The ground troops of Eastern and Western Europe were all white.

Russians, Czechs, Ukranians, Poles, etc were fighting the so called Ally countries.

Poland and Ukraine were allied at one point and then subverted again by jews so thy ended up killing each other by the millions. Then there was the Katyn massacre. The jews convinced Poland that Hitler was behind it until the truth came out after the Cold War that Bolsheviks ordered the killing of Polish intellectuals.


a64ffd  No.11668043

>>11651293

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries and instead focus primarily on making Germany prosper even more?

Of course. Fascist Europe would have been a paradise, and we would still live in it today.


a64ffd  No.11668052

File: 2a10a8145a55f36⋯.png (789.73 KB, 3840x2160, 16:9, 1476228807974.png)

>>11668043

Just imagine pic related Europe.


000000  No.11669658

>> 11668043

>>11651293

>Would things be better had Hitler not invaded neighboring countries

>Of course. Fascist Europe would have been a paradise, and we would still live in it today.

>Dear white people why are you so aggressive when I take some stuff from you

t. nigger


42fba7  No.11670060

>>11668043

>being so naive

Hitler dreamed of a Greater Germany uniting all Germans. If you are so naive to think that America and the USSR would have had no problem with the existence of fascist states like Germany and Italy then you really are stupid.


1b3407  No.11670079

>>11668004

>Because it was supposed to be used as justification for war.

>Fact is, it was never used to justify the war

So you don't know the details, yet you're compelled to speak. The Polish army caught them out, idiot.

>Do you have brain damage?

Great answer for a Nazi genius.

>Logic does not apply to “nazis and their heinous crimes”, they are just evil incarnate, everything is true the allies claim and if you disagree then we smash your head, because we are the “good guys” and “freedom”

So where's the logic? I don't see any.


1b3407  No.11670088

>>11664982

See:

>>11670079

>So you don't know the details, yet you're compelled to speak. The Polish army caught them out, idiot


a44d2e  No.11670247

>>11655023

Why don't you zip and torrent the important stuff? We wanna learn faggot


1e7e04  No.11670328

>>11670088

Wasted dubs.

There is no proof Gleiwitz was a false flag set up by the Germans, and we have zero motives for them to do so. They had plenty of legitimate reasons for declaring that war, including over 40 border incursions ala Gleiwitz. The Polish army caught them out? So fucking what? The Polish army has no power to influence the German media who is supposed to support this false flag. And Hitler does certainly not care if any foreign media picks up on a story since they have been running 10 such stories a day for over a decade already. It would be like Trump worrying about CNN putting out their daily hit piece. Yeah he's shitting his pants and will totally change his war plans because of it.

Gleiwitz is just another piece of allied propaganda trying to pin their war on Germany and Hitler. All your so called evidence for this plot are affidavits extracted at fucking Nuremberg. It's such a typical story to push you must be a shill or a complete idiot.


000000  No.11670727

>>11670079

>>11668004

>Great answer for a Nazi genius.

You say that as if that would be a bad thing. Do you know were your are?


6276ce  No.11670756

>>11661444

> One interesting statistic rarely brought up is the tank losses ratio, which was normally nearly 5:1 or sometimes more, for example in 1942 the Germans destroyed 15,000 soviet tanks, and lost 2,600 - imagine destroying nearly 100,000 soviet tanks over the course of the war and losing? rough.

Most of that is because of casualty overestimation on the part of the Germans and that the Soviets had really odd definitions for things.


ae9f04  No.11671509

>>11658444

Does /leftypol/ have a source for the 100 million exterminated? Have never heard anyone take this claim seriously and I don't know where it originated.


ea17be  No.11671609

File: 8b4a3b38030829d⋯.png (129.36 KB, 527x361, 527:361, oie_YOnaoNvMWSD5.png)

>>11670328

>and we have zero motives for them to do so

Caucus beli for the war.

>they had plenty of legitimate reasons for declaring that war, including over 40 border incursions ala Gleiwitz

Name them.

>the Polish army has no power to influence the German media who is supposed to support this false flag

>Hitler does certainly not care if any foreign media picks up on a story since they have been running 10 such stories a day for over a decade already

Getting a little carried away there. The German media didn't report on it because the American correspondents whom they summoned knew the Germans were full of shit.

>all your so called evidence for this plot are affidavits extracted at fucking Nuremberg

So,

<the Polish army had records of this incident

<the Americans were there at the scene

<and the Germans who were involved in it confessed to it being true, giving us multiple accounts of the incident

…and that Isn't proof?

>>11670727

>you say that as if that would be a bad thing. Do you know were your are?

<it's a good thing I'm acting like an internet tough guy and not providing evidence

OK, Nazi genius.


ae9f04  No.11671664

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>>11658957

Until the bombings of Westphal and the Rhineland, the Reich hadn't had any history of targeting civilian targets. After those bombings, more than two months past before any significant military action was even taken.

The thousands of ethnic germans were being displaced from Danzig through the 20s and dropping of leaflets outlining future annexation of German land all happened prior to the Reich's invasion.

Furthermore, everyone of his proposals to end the polish persecution was turned down. He had every choice of whether or not to invade, and he did so to try and save and secure what was left of the germans there.


1e7e04  No.11672019

>>11671609

Your sole source for this fantasy is a guy named Alfred who turned himself over to the allies claiming he was an Austrian anti Nazi. 0 Then he provided them with convenient "evidence" that nobody else in the SD knew about. Saying the American correspondents knew they were full of shit is especially fabulous considering American papers, New York Times included printed the story, while the German papers did not. The only German papers that even mentioned it did so in connection to the other 40 or so incursions, by irregular troops, which Hitler mentioned in his speech. That together with the Polish mobilization on August 30th and the continuing massacres of German civilians in Poland were all the cassus belli they would ever need to start a war. Trump could start a war in 5 minutes with that type of justification. That pic you posted is a forgery, read Udo Walendy.


95c0e3  No.11672106

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Don't forget German engineers of the 3rd Reich invented the jet airplane.

this short video shows a Messerschmitt Me 262 during Flying Display - both from inside of the cockpit and from outside on take-off and in the sky.

Awespme technology - superlative tech for the year 1944.


4f38a3  No.11672180

>>11672106

hitler hated the Me 262 for some damn reason. They had it ready earlier on in the war.


e5a962  No.11672185

>>11672180

Probably the scalability and supply chain was poor compared to simpler variants


ea17be  No.11672245

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>>11672019

Tell me, why would German newspapers print this if it didn't go according to plan? They knew Americans didn't buy into it, they were testing reception, so why would they go on with it if they knew they were going to be called out? The plan would serve to do opposite of what they were planning, what you're proposing is dumb.

>the other 40 or so incursions, by irregular troops, which Hitler mentioned in his speech

So where is the proof?

>that together with the Polish mobilization on August 30th

So? Hitler wanted to attack on August 24th, originally, we were on alert because of incidents like this, and we most likely had Intel.

>and the continuing massacres of German civilians in Poland

Still haven't provided proof of that either.


985b55  No.11672290

>>11661518

They didn't "killed" everyone who was in their way, you retarded?


985b55  No.11672301

>>11659034

kike,stop he is right!


778fca  No.11672355

>>11672245

>proof

10k missing Germans, where are the Germans, Pooland?


ea17be  No.11672385

>>11672355

Your word isn't proof, Gaymany.


778fca  No.11672438

>>11672385

Where are the 60k missing Germans?


95c0e3  No.11672512

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>>11672180

Coincidently critics usually say Hitler hated the advanced military rifle known as the StG 44 or Sturmgewehr 44, history's first assault rifle, something else German engineers of the 3rd Reich invented. Yet it was none other than Hitler himself who is said to have named the rifle "Sturmgewehr".

I wonder if Hitler really hated the best innovative weapons, and if so, where the evidence of such unlikely reactions by him to advances and ballistic advantages actually is.

Here's a two minute shooting demo of the WW2 German progenitor of AK-47s, M-16s, Uzis, FNs, and all the rest.


cc52cd  No.11672557

>>11672512

Source on that? I thought they called it MP44 because Hitler didn't like the idea of assault rifle.

And Uzi are machine pistol/SMG, not assault rifle.


42fba7  No.11672680

>>11672512

The rebels in Syria opened crates full of these. What a waste.


000000  No.11672851

>>11671609

>>11670328

>they had plenty of legitimate reasons for declaring that war, including over 40 border incursions ala Gleiwitz

>Name them.

Read the Books German Foreign Ministry published, cases like that:

Berlin, 24 August 1939

-Apart from the shelling of the Luft Hansa plane D-APUP off Hela which we reported yesterday two further reports regarding the shelling of aircraft have been received .-

-1. At about 1.15 p.m. the aeroplane D-APUP, Savoia type, piloted by Bohner, when making the trip from Danzig to Berlin was shot at by anti-aircraft guns on Hela and also aboard a Polish cruiser lying at a distance of 25 miles off the coast.

>Getting a little carried away there. The German media didn't report on it because the American correspondents whom they summoned knew the Germans were full of shit.

Your statement is lacking logic, since when did the German press need US approval to publish something since 1945 and Kikepedia is no source:

<American correspondents were summoned to the scene the next day[5]

Germany summoned no-one, to a fictitional event. (((New York Times))) reports as follows:

> Wireless to The New York Times

>Berlin, Friday, Sept. 1–An increasing number of border incidents involving shooting and mutual Polish-German casualties are reported by the German press and radio. The most serious is reported from Gleiwitz, a German city on the line where the southwestern portion of Poland meets the Reich.

>At 8 P.M., according to the semi-official news agency, a group of Polish insurrectionists forced an entrance into the Gleiwitz radio station,

There were no reports in the German press and radio about Gleiwitz, easy to check for a “neutral country” at the time. So even NYTimes refers only to an unnamed “semi-official news agency”.

The “increasing number of border incidents involving shooting” is an undeniable fact since 1918. There were several report of shootings in Gleiwitz over a longer time span, as well as on many other places on the border. None involved any setup or staging, none was made more important than the other.

The only thing staged after the war was the “Gleiwitz radio station incident”, with unproven, quite ludicrous claims. Nobody killed prisoner and put them into polish uniform only to be hidden from the world and the German public.

Remember the allies operated radio stations pretending to be German to spread propaganda, false reports. They even developed a technique to embedded the lie into half-truths, irrelevant facts to give their lies more credibility – see Sefton Delmer and black propaganda.

Gleiwitz radio station incident was an allied propaganda piece to “prove” German bad faith. The allies claimed Germany needs to stage an incident to have a casus beli, because Poland dindu nuffin.

Gleiwitz was a none issue at the begin of the war and was trumped up after the war “how Germany forged a reason for war”. Which Germany obvious did not.

It never addressed the long list of real incidents and grievance the Germans had, the German government published.

The Polaks here try to create the impression that if Germany staged Gleiwitz and “summoned the internal press”, they may as well have “staged” Bloody Sunday in Bromberg, the aftermath which was witnessed by the international press.

There was a German investigation, photos and international press in Bromberg.

There was no German claims, investigation, photos and no invitation to the international press in Gleiwitz.

I mean, anybody reading /pol and related boards know that the Poles lust for German territory even today. They never fail to mention how weak Germany is and Poland strong how easy they could take Germany. They daydream all the time how Poland will be the domineering power in Europe.

Just like they did between 1918 and 1939.

Hell, their first new elected president after Soviet occupation, Noble peace recipient Walesa publicly expressed his wish of nukeing Germany.

Poland dindu nuffin


855263  No.11672887

>>11672180

That's complete utter bullshit. The whole defence plan on the western in 1944 relied on it. The problem was that Hitler had told them that he wanted an attack bomber and was told that it was gonna be one. His plan was to supress the beach head with jet bomber that theey couldnt shoot down and then just cruch the landing at the beach. Read Irving!


a33cc0  No.11673080

>>11672512

>>11672557

Both are true. Before the war Hitler wanted every rifleman to be a sniper and didn't approve of developing a new rifle. However once he saw the MP44 in action he loved it and understood it's value. He wanted to re-equip the whole army with them, but the limit was ammo production and logistics. Even if they had been adopted in 1934 it would have been impossible to make effective use of them because they just couldn't make enough ammo and get it to the troops.


a33cc0  No.11673085

>>11655460

They were outnumbered by more than that.

The Germans made about 12k tanks. The US and Russia made 50k each. They lost because they were outnumbered 10 to 1.


1dd53c  No.11673097

Consider this: Italy ruined fucking everything.


8cdc64  No.11673137

>>11672887

>Read Irving!

This forever.


855263  No.11673140

>>11673097

I know Göring said that they would probably have won the war if they didnt have the italians on their side.


338eac  No.11673567

>>11651386

> Imagine what the outcome would've been had Germany been rather Isolationist in military terms, similar to the US.

The biggest strategic difference in doctrine was because of terrain. From Berlin to Moscow there are almost 0 natural barriers.

To fight in eastern Europe, you literally have to be moving at all times or you lose initiative. This is why the Polish, Germans, and Soviets kept to a more mobile doctrine. You either advanced or you lost, period. Brits and Americans actually had fairly solid doctrines of their own that proved effective but also relied on their relative isolation for supply. Total war is total war, the men fighting will only ever be a piece of the insanely complex dance between resources, industry, and politics.

Also, you need resources. Trucks, tanks, halftracks, and everything else rely on oil. This is something Germany just didn't have.

Contrast that with the western powers, the French actually had a fairly solid defensive strategy that made perfect sense for their territory. A lot of their best troops were on the Belgian border because they did expect an attack. Their tanks, artillery, and air strategy were solid (their artillery units were especially well regarded) but command and control was garbage. They expected (somewhat reasonably) that it would be another bloody slog but German doctrine was based heavily on communication and initiative, both of which the French lacked.

The Soviets would've fallen apart if not for the US and UK basically building their entire communications and supply lines. However, they weren't exactly hurting for raw material despite having an inefficient economy. The Germans had the opposite problem.


000000  No.11691009

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a54e04  No.11691149

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>>11673567

Nothing against your comment, for which is mostly accurate.

But could we have a discussion about the lend lease? Does anybody know the exact amount of material shipped over for the Soviet Union, or else can point toward a credible source in relation to tonnage? WW2 buffs readings this thread will no doubt have come toward their own conclusions based upon their own research. However, has the allied contribution toward the only communist state in Europe ever been accurately quantified?


e1821e  No.11699426

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>>11655023

Please give us a Megaupload link for some of these. This is an amazing collection.


e1821e  No.11699429

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e1821e  No.11699432

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e1821e  No.11699434

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e1821e  No.11699440

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e1821e  No.11699443

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e1821e  No.11699444

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e1821e  No.11699446

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>>11699444 (checked)


e1821e  No.11699449

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e1821e  No.11699450

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e1821e  No.11699458

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e1821e  No.11699464

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e1821e  No.11699466

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e1821e  No.11699467

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e1821e  No.11699474

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e1821e  No.11699479

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e1821e  No.11699483

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e1821e  No.11699486

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e1821e  No.11699488

File: b5fe8c879493887⋯.jpg (43.7 KB, 352x539, 32:49, C5UBdsOXUAA52W1.jpg)

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e1821e  No.11699493

File: 4c1f33dc12d54ba⋯.jpg (119.87 KB, 1200x791, 1200:791, C5UA02xWMAAfLGf.jpg)

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File: 20e6c02ba98b2a3⋯.jpg (63.85 KB, 576x475, 576:475, C5UBDn-WEAEyiMb.jpg)

>>11699488 (heil'd)


e1821e  No.11699496

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e1821e  No.11699499

File: dac23892e8c5ed3⋯.jpg (172.23 KB, 1200x874, 600:437, C5dI4ScXMAE2wmw.jpg)

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613792  No.11699578

File: 34ce0fa319730d7⋯.png (162.78 KB, 538x558, 269:279, 1431088199929.png)

>>11651293

>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Yes, he should have just let the commies keep raping and murdering the German people so that kikes like you wouldn't say shit like this 80 years later. Kill yourself Schlomo.


cff2a4  No.11699590

>>11651363

Germany could not wait for the Soviets to build up their military. Waiting a few more years and they would have been completely out matched.


cff2a4  No.11699613

>>11699578

The idiots who say that kind of shit don't really understand the geopolitical situation of the time. They think Germany could have just been isolationist and everything would have worked out, which is fucking retarded.


2527a5  No.11710032

>>11651538

Memel was taken from Lithuania before armed conflict began.


2527a5  No.11710040

>>11699578

The Polish government was not communist. Communists got to rape and murder Germans as a direct consequence of Hitler's actions.

Both of these statements are objectively true.


3cd66d  No.11710042

File: 201a7f2b7fceebf⋯.jpg (409.93 KB, 1517x1752, 1517:1752, Spanish_soldiers_on_a_raft….jpg)

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File: 0ebadb5bd296823⋯.jpg (109.25 KB, 677x960, 677:960, bb9a6bc6bd6350a0e173d8e733….jpg)

Do not forget the Spanish men who volunteered for fight for the Axis in the northern cold of Russia.

"To troops, the Spaniards are a crew of ragamuffins. They regard a rifle as an instrument that should not be cleaned under any pretext. Their sentries exist only in principle. They don't take up their posts, or, if they do take them up, they do so in their sleep. When the Russians arrive, the natives have to wake them up. But the Spaniards have never yielded an inch of ground. One can't imagine more fearless fellows. They scarcely take cover. They flout death. I know, in any case, that our men are always glad to have Spaniards as neighbours in their sector" - Adolf Hitler


e1821e  No.11710810

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e1821e  No.11710816

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e1821e  No.11710822

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e1821e  No.11710824

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aefe40  No.11712282

>>11699578

neither poland nor chezcoslovakia were communist. not even close actually


e1821e  No.11714250

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e1821e  No.11714251

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e1821e  No.11714253

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e1821e  No.11714254

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e1821e  No.11714257

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e1821e  No.11714258

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e1821e  No.11714261

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e1821e  No.11714264

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e1821e  No.11714265

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e1821e  No.11714266

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e1821e  No.11714269

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e1821e  No.11714270

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e1821e  No.11714271

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e1821e  No.11714272

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e1821e  No.11714273

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e1821e  No.11714274

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baac9a  No.11714276

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e1821e  No.11714277

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e1821e  No.11714280

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e1821e  No.11714282

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e1821e  No.11714284

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e1821e  No.11714287

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e1821e  No.11714291

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e1821e  No.11714300

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000000  No.11715433

>>11655023

Offer a Mega upload and/or torrent please


aefe40  No.11715981

>>11672106

germany was literally running out of quality iron for the war.

alot of the ore in the last two years was mined in shit quality german mines that were only opened by NSDAP in the 30s to create work on domsestic soil.


aefe40  No.11715988

File: 8e1b8df20d4686e⋯.jpg (115.66 KB, 780x557, 780:557, Jews_7593f1_4633329.jpg)

>>11672438

>>11672355

>where are the 10k

>where did the 60k go?

are you shitposting?


000000  No.11732096

Anyone have pictures of NSDAP letters? Or letters to them?


aefe40  No.11737881

>>11732096

letters as in documents or as in alphabet?

because the font they used was Tannenber Fett.

as for documents just google anything like "nazi documents"


000000  No.11747557

rwn


dd8bfb  No.11748062

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>11651293

Adolf Hitler's Speech On Operation Barbarossa

" Adolf Hitler's FULL excerpt on Operation Barbarossa. October 3rd 1941.

Historians have debated whether Stalin was planning an invasion of German territory in the summer of 1941. In the 1980s when Viktor Suvorov published a journal article and later the book Icebreaker in which he stated that Stalin had seen the outbreak of war in western Europe as an opportunity to spread communist revolutions throughout the continent, and that the Soviet military was being deployed for an imminent attack at the time of the German invasion. This view had also been advanced by former German generals following the war. Suvorov's thesis was fully or partially accepted by some historians, including Valeri Danilov, Joachim Hoffmann, Mikhail Meltyukhov and Vladimir Nevezhin.

The fiercest battles of World War Two took place along the Eastern Front. The Front reached back to Germany through the Soviet Union, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, the Balkans, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, and the Baltic States. Throughout these sombre landscapes, where Europe’s best gave their lives to free Europe from the scourge of the Bolshevik-London-Washington DC alliance."

(..)


9ee875  No.11760196

antislide is prowhite


60c707  No.11760268

File: 376cf680ec261fa⋯.png (1003.45 KB, 596x845, 596:845, british_free_corps_by_wolf….png)

>>11651293

What was the truth surrounding the British Free Corps?

(((Post-war propaganda))) states that they were just womanizing cowards, but I find that to be quite hard to believe, especially with their position within the SS and supposed high rejection rate during recruitment.


68db45  No.11781585

…..


a761a5  No.11781772

>>11691149

The Soviets claimed about 95% of their logistical vehicles were imported, that doesn't say what the limit to their vehicle pool would have been if they had relied on domestic manufacture but it tells you how much of a burden was taken off of them by the aid. Without aid they would have lost. The Germans couldn't have taken Britain but without US assistance they would have had to accept a stalemate(even without any imports they would not have been close to starving). If the US for some reason had not come in to assist the USSR or British Empire they would have crushed the Japanese even more completely. The US built more warship tonnage during that war(and frankly newer better ships) than the world including itself had built after 1860. They produced over 500 destroyers and 4 times the number of U-boats as germany and japan combined. There was really nothing that anybody could do to effectively project power against that sort of opposition. There was a boat hiding behind virtually every island in the Pacific and a sub in every strait.

The USSR could have been overwhelmed as they depended upon the importation of steel and finished vehicles to continue their war effort. Britian was simply not something that could be conquered but could have been defeated. The US simply had too great a logistical advantage and too large a merchant marine to interdict. If they wanted to put an army somewhere then that army would be there.

At best Germany could have had an isolated empire and if conciliatory toward Britain would have escaped with its gains. Japan would likely have been treated more harshly(war between the US and Japan was completely inevitable sort of the Japanese accepting a 3rd rate status and never offending them again). The US might have become extremely hostile to Germany unless something different happened politically that alienated everybody from the kikes.


eb2ee7  No.11781863

>>11781802

Go delouse yourself.


f6b85a  No.11781899

>>11781863

> I have no reasonable contra argument so gfy

Riiiiiiiight.


000000  No.11783026

>>11781899

>>11781863

> I have no reasonable contra argument so gfy

Did you have an original argument?


8a8d22  No.11783093

>>11699578

If you weren't a jew you'd know that Poland's goal for participating in WWII was to preserve the shape of their borders.

Unfortunately Third Reich and USSR split it between each other.

In addition, Poland stopped bolsheviks in 1920, weimar government blocked arms shipments in Gdańsk/Danzig

And Polish-German tensions could've been avoided if Germany either succeeded at germanization and eradication of Polish culture throughout the 123 years of partitions, or not doing it in the first place.


03ecef  No.11783171

File: 6c389c426e5c176⋯.gif (29.32 KB, 250x228, 125:114, _look eric.gif)

>>11783026

Nope. Not original. Just substantial and reasonable one.


d2e18d  No.11785303

File: d9f374f9293547c⋯.png (1.43 MB, 1280x641, 1280:641, d9f374f9293547c249a39f6df5….png)

The war wasn't realistically winnable. There was a very brief window in which the war could be won, only if it was executed 100% perfectly.

Perfect execution of a plan almost never happens in war, and if it does, it's basically divine providence.

But the war had to be waged anyways. Germany was on the chopping block to be destroyed, and Europe with it. The capitalist democracies as always were too short-sighted and too concerned with their own narrow affairs, and so betrayed eachother for a sheckel, and the jew bolsheviks were gearing up to tear European civilization apart.

It may be hard to believe, but this was the best outcome that was reasonably possible.

The Germans bough us time, that's all we could hope for.

There was no avoiding the war, just read any of Churchills own writings on the topic and you'll realize that.

Look at the Soviet invasions of Eastern Europe, including Poland even, and you'll see it was only the beginning of the larger Soviet plan.

Look at what was actually going on in Germany at the time.

What I will add to the discussion/critique of German strategy is that the eastern front was botched at a total strategic and even ideological scale. Koch and the turbo-autist wing of the party (who were mostly strasserist holdovers with connections) were largely responsible for fucking up the governing of the eastern provinces. Most of the Ukranian people would have been happy to join the SS and go fight the Soviets, who had only just subjected them to the holdomor. Maybe not a deciding factor in the war, but a practical example of how the purity obsessed pseudo-communist interpretation of National Socialism is a self-defeating and short-shortsightedly stupid way to conduct politics.


f88dae  No.11785358

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It seems you fucking retards need to research more before you post your stupid opinions. At least read 'Hitler's War'.


f88dae  No.11785402

File: f6bae8d0f99e16b⋯.jpg (742.52 KB, 1299x865, 1299:865, Himmler.jpg)

>>11785303

>The war wasn't realistically winnable. There was a very brief window in which the war could be won, only if it was executed 100% perfectly.

False. Had Hitler not been merciful to the eternal anglo during Dunkirk, than he would have invaded Britain to score a victory. It would not have been easy or quick, but it would have been done. Should be a lesson to us, have no mercy.

>Most of the Ukranian people would have been happy to join the SS and go fight the Soviets, who had only just subjected them to the holdomor. Maybe not a deciding factor in the war, but a practical example of how the purity obsessed pseudo-communist interpretation of National Socialism is a self-defeating and short-shortsightedly stupid way to conduct politics.

<goys, maybe national socialism isn't really a good thing! it is a pseudo communist european style socialism! oy vey it's self defeating! There was no way to be won!

Ukranians did fight and volunteer, moron.

>>11783093

>And Polish-German tensions could've been avoided if Germany either succeeded at germanization and eradication of Polish culture throughout the 123 years of partitions, or not doing it in the first place.

You do realize the Polish-German tensions have been going on WAAAY earlier before WW2 started, right? There were reports of priest calling Germans dogs and that it would not be a sin to kill one. Poles hate Germany for many stupid reasons, and it all culminated to poles starting to genocide Germans in Danzig. That part belonged to Germany pre-WW1 and was taken rightfully. Hitler's plan was to get back all territories lost, it just made it easier to take since the poles were acting like niggers.


f88dae  No.11785414

File: c1d10c4ade7b301⋯.png (26.23 KB, 533x622, 533:622, (((redditor))).png)

>>11781802

>t. shlomo Goldenstein


d2e18d  No.11789896

>>11785402

Stop being defensive and read.

400,000 men is significant but wasn't the reason for losing the war.

The Ukranians joined up early on in large numbers. Koch's government intentionally fucked the country up. I'm criticizing the strasserists, who were thrown out of the party en masse during the night of the long knives. If there was any mercy that caused problems later on, it was not throwing them all out. They're NazBol goons who distort the socialist element as well as the racial element into absurd turbo autism that becomes nonsensical and self-defeating.


3e55cc  No.11789918

File: 32ae150bc0f3540⋯.jpg (11.56 KB, 150x217, 150:217, ns4.jpg)

>>11651293

>Did Bomber Harris do anything wrong?

Dresden was the shining jewel in Germania's crown and I hope the ghost's of it's apoplectic dead haunt the dreams of the British dreams for the rest of all time.


000000  No.11809841

>>11789918

>>11651293

>Dresden was the shining jewel in Germania's crown

Dresden wasn’t bombed until the last days of the war because they wanted it as a undestroyed target for the atomic bomb.

Since the war was ending before the bomb was ready, they destroyed Dresden anyway.


2bd355  No.11809985

>>11661280

>What many people forget is that the Polacks actually did a ethnic cleansing on ethnic Germans living in Poland

I have yet to see any evidence of this presented in this thread or anywhere. Greentexts and one scene from TGSNT are the only bits I see. Could you provide any documented evidence outside of German newspaper propaganda?

>>11672355

>>11672438

Seriously? That's the same rationale kikes use. "Where did Polish Jews go if they weren't killed with diesel exhaust and buried in mass graves then dug up and cremated just in time for a camp uprising?"


60098b  No.11810005


52b3ce  No.11810081

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52b3ce  No.11810091

File: ac235859b5a6d62⋯.jpg (128.06 KB, 991x765, 991:765, s_w21_3b24776u.jpg)


000000  No.11830742

>>11810091

Hallo Hallo

Anyone at home?


eee381  No.11830954

>>11748062

The video is blocked for German IPs. You literally are not allowed to listen to original, historical speeches. This alone is proof enough that truth is on our side. Fuck this clown world.


000000  No.11857014

bump


596079  No.11867608

>>11655095

>everyone who disagrees with me is a commie


596079  No.11867612

>>11661280

here's your free (You)


596079  No.11867623

>>11785402

>poles hat egermany for many stupid reasons

<partitions country

<bans teaching of language

<tries to undermine polish culture

WE WUZ INNOCENT


596079  No.11867649

>>11672019

>continuing massacres of german civilians

is this what you stormfags really believe?

the only "massacres" were german militias getting BTFO by the BIG SLAVIC COCK after the start of the war because they wanted to help krauts win


000000  No.11867854

>>11830954

Use Tor and a proxy


2b0b08  No.11867931

>>11672106

What a load of nonsense.

Frank Whittle invented the Jet engine in the 1930's.

>HURR DURR The Me-262 was ahead of it's time

Yeah, by about 6 months, the Gloster Meteor and P-80 also saw service in WW2.

>HURR DURR Awesome technology

An underpowered jet that had to operate from long, vulnerable runways and whose turbojets would explode if the throttle was opened too quickly because of the low nickel content in the engine alloys.

The Luftwaffe would have been far better served by concentrating on improving the high altitude performance of their existing fighters. The 262 was an expensive and wasteful distraction from the strategic aims of air superiority that achieved nothing at all.


d82d54  No.11868369

>>11867931

542 confirmed kills vs allied aircraft for a loss of 100. This at the time when the allied airpower was overwhelming.


000000  No.11868381

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

You should learn of the events of WWII, listen here


874744  No.11868393

>>11867623

You stupid subhuman illiterate nigger scum.

POLAND INVADED CZECHSLOVAKIA WITH GERMANY


874744  No.11868396

>>11868393

Was meant for faggot OP but it passes for a worthless polish subhuman too.

>>11781802

Tell me of the achievements of the poles.

*cricket*


ddbc39  No.11868431

>>11868393

>POLAND INVADED CZECHSLOVAKIA WITH GERMANY

When was this, what battle?


7df576  No.11869087

File: 473c8f7bdaf63bb⋯.jpg (54.46 KB, 720x234, 40:13, Czg0eqJVQAQjrUc.jpg)

File: c1d10c4ade7b301⋯.png (26.23 KB, 533x622, 533:622, c1d10c4ade7b30118837d3e34b….png)

File: 686ca2efaa479cf⋯.jpg (167.79 KB, 518x428, 259:214, dsffs.jpg)

>>11867623

You're a stupid nigger. Learn what truly happened and why. God I hate illiterate kike puppets

>>11672245

Also an illiterate nigger. Read German AARs which are dated and time stamped in red ink. Go read an actual history book not written by you Slavic jew faggots

>>11867649

IDK what you said, but just when slavs speak out of turn.

Funny how if it wasn't for us German Americans which made the bulk of the Infantry sending the inbred physically inferior Slavs money, bombing the shit out of the Fatherland, and fighting harder, tougher, faster and worlds better than you slavic fags, the incompetent Red army, Polish whatever you want to call that rag tag fag shit, and the partisans would have continued to be wiped all over the floor. You're fucking welcome, but it should have been Germany unzogging the US and Britain into fighting the Reds and liberating the Slavs that don't have chink in them and reintegrating them into Nordic, Roman and Hellenic awesomeness.

>big slav cock

Seems like they got their teeth knocked out by a big German cock slapping them in their fugly faces. The got railed out til we got involved. You fought a tiny ass Germany, who at the start of the war had equal and lesser equipment than the reds. You faggots killed your own officers because only a quarter of them had the good idea to get rid of communism which is a shit jew ideology. Millions of slavs dead, should have been the rest of the mutts as well.

It took kike spies getting you the bomb to save you from what would have been the United States rolling over your graves. Or maybe we should have stayed out of the war and let Germany murder all you undesirables.

The one thing you have going for you is that you have a decent amount of white blood, besides that mongoloid shit that muddies all that. Be thankful the Krouts left a little of their seed in your women, or you'd all look like half chinks still.

Do you guys even have a plan to get rid of the Gypsy?


ef8328  No.11869274

File: 526808d572918a5⋯.jpg (194.49 KB, 800x1370, 80:137, 541aac1628eb9c5c405a94abb1….jpg)

can anyone post infographs on the holohoax? my ext. hard drive got corrupted and i lost a lot of it


c4d1ad  No.11871659

File: 3c8dfeb19b9daef⋯.gif (551.85 KB, 315x140, 9:4, mg34 firing.gif)

File: 32d33ead3a18588⋯.jpg (28.2 KB, 400x250, 8:5, ss stg-44.jpg)

Does anyone know where I can download a load of footage from World War 2 without any watermarks?

I've found some but they're very low quality, and I'd like to use some videos of the Germans in combat to use in a bit of OC I'm making.

Thanks in advance


d6852b  No.11871669

The war that taught Soros the joy of theft.


d6852b  No.11871685

File: 75b820422bab4e8⋯.png (496.8 KB, 550x500, 11:10, WWII Reminiscing.png)

It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.


debf08  No.11871722

>>11869087

do you genuinely believe you do anything to convince people to hate slavs? I just don't fucking get it. How can a species of people survive based entirely on their ability to deceive and turn people against each other, but still be complete and utter dogshit at doing it? Atleast fucking try to get paid you fucking retard.


04dabb  No.11872080

>>11699590

>Waiting a few more years and they would have been completely out matched.

protip: germans lost anyway.

The better strategy would have been self-defense and not expansionism.

of course that is with the knowledge we now have at hand

Germans should have focused on the cultural war, on spreading german ideology worldwide.


c0fd67  No.11872099

File: 9786509464c29ec⋯.jpg (32.58 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 061.jpg)

>>11673097

>Italy ruined everything

>not the US literally feeding and equipping the commies

das rite goy, those pesky italians are to blame, they're non white anyway so it's obviously their fault


694592  No.11876767

http://www.kriegsberichter-archive.com/index.php

Some good pictures here


000000  No.11897655

>>11872080

>>11699590

>The better strategy would have been self-defense and not expansionism.

Yeah, just die the death of thousand cuts. Give up your land a let it be invaded.

Good to know you all will be history in a few decades anyway. The weels set into motion are going to crush the wester post-war order.

>Germans should have focused on the cultural war, on spreading german ideology worldwide.

So wise sempai! Did you miss your pilates? Time to fetch some soy.


c2cebf  No.11897989

File: aad3e31800e30f0⋯.png (2.53 MB, 4000x4000, 1:1, ww21911.png)

Mein.


aa3a91  No.11899310

File: 524ef3a84d1ad41⋯.webm (317.85 KB, 350x154, 25:11, Elements of the Leibstand….webm)

File: 42e7a01d7aa090d⋯.webm (173.79 KB, 360x190, 36:19, German AT in action durin….webm)

File: 9bedb8ab3964cb6⋯.webm (787.09 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Heroes welcome in Brussel….webm)

File: 1d29855d4592f0b⋯.webm (372.78 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Hitler’s personal guard, ….webm)

File: c22b625703ee346⋯.webm (369.08 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Léon Degrelle being award….webm)

>>11651293

A couple hundred GIF/WebM of WWII

From my WWII folder. There are parts of GIFs then combined full clips of them. https://imgur.com/a/N5RVLJS

For convenient downloading:

https://mega.nz/#F!iap1HT6R!pEDXxMY14dOSopxVDDT4BQ


aa3a91  No.11899326

File: 2bd5e379ae24245⋯.webm (274.2 KB, 300x200, 3:2, Reichsjugendführer (leade….webm)

File: c22b625703ee346⋯.webm (369.08 KB, 300x150, 2:1, Léon Degrelle being award….webm)

File: ac18f4276ec5796⋯.gif (567.62 KB, 500x281, 500:281, Swastika banners.gif)

File: a7c9d918525a5cb⋯.gif (2.17 MB, 250x187, 250:187, Hans Bernhard, a Waffen SS….gif)

File: 422a63068b4c7bb⋯.gif (1.47 MB, 260x197, 260:197, Swastika flag mountain WW2.gif)

Do download so its not just me who has this particular set.


7df576  No.11899704

File: a83ee43daa332eb⋯.jpg (946.45 KB, 1920x1280, 3:2, Where's my money.jpg)


1be4a5  No.11899812

File: 837ff815131cdfe⋯.png (193.59 KB, 500x802, 250:401, berlin-gave-me-the-blues-w….png)

File: 9eac252020558b4⋯.jpg (88.71 KB, 960x692, 240:173, community_image_1424452155.jpg)

>>11869087

Men like this have taught real white men the truth about how shitty slavs really are.

>>11871722

>Um, excuse me, do you think you convince people (of something pretty obvious)

You sound like a god damn slav jew.

Slavs are the joke of the white race, even

most of them can't be considered white anymore with all that asian in them.

Add an "e" at the end of slav and maybe then we'll let the mongrels live, if they don't die from lack of breeding, shit tier wars and accidents from doing stupid shit on camera all day for videos labled "3 guys one hammer" and "warning: graphic content" or some shit. Fuck your mongolian mongrel race. You only survived because of the juggernaut that is the white American fighting man

Don't you watch the news? This is a Nazi board!

Heil Hitler!


7df576  No.11899830

File: cf41b62d9445fc0⋯.jpg (29.48 KB, 512x288, 16:9, de3a090e16cf374b7299475363….jpg)

>>11871722

God damn Slavs shitting things up. Slavs are complete faggots. Anons right: you're in the wrong trench mother fucker!

>>11899812

Glad to see more people get it!


000000  No.11926705

>>11899812

>Add an "e" at the end of slav

From Middle English sclave, borrowed from Medieval Latin Sclavus, from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos)

It may derive from the Greek verb σκυλάω (skuláō), a variant of σκυλεύω (skuleúō, “to get the spoils of war”)[1] because Slavs were often enslaved.

Jews and Arabs and Vikings and Byzantines


694592  No.11926780

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


000000  No.11951482

anti-slide bump


bfa764  No.11953581

File: 54fa8892cfed371⋯.jpg (1.38 MB, 2134x1024, 1067:512, FinalForm5.jpg)


c97b26  No.11971691

File: d281b42696714cd⋯.jpg (44.25 KB, 526x592, 263:296, d281b42696714cdb3d3c9db38b….jpg)

The start of WWII had nothing to with Poland. Hitler had extracted Germany from the influence of international (read jewish) finance and Germany flourished, setting an example for the world. This could not be allowed to stand. Whether it was Poland or any other of six million reasons the jews were going to start a war.


2b0b08  No.11971705

>>11655460

This. You can even listen to a covertly recorded conversation between Hitler and Von Mannerheim where Hitler expresses his amazement at the sheer extent of Soviet military industrial capacity.

>don't fall for the (((jewtube internet historian))) meme.


4f0e49  No.11972520

File: 921c067bbe8263f⋯.jpg (146.49 KB, 607x599, 607:599, 607px-Daily_Express_FRIDAY….jpg)

File: fd9c53bc4478f50⋯.jpg (170.85 KB, 800x568, 100:71, 800px-Jüdische_Kriegserklä….jpg)

File: d7f4e5e5b437ec9⋯.jpg (125.54 KB, 444x600, 37:50, 444px-Daily_express_(Vorde….jpg)

File: 872c78ca3636223⋯.jpg (187.4 KB, 550x599, 550:599, 550px-Judea_declares_war_s….jpg)

File: 9dc59558df92bb2⋯.jpg (137.71 KB, 800x598, 400:299, 800px-Jdecwardayexp.jpg)

>>11651293

the jews declared war against germany in 1933, it would have come to a war in any case


4c3cda  No.11972737

>>11972520

Jewish power was not as great then as it is now. And as you and I know, no one joined them in 1933. War with jewish powers was inevitable, I agree. However, Hitler was not some dumbass who helplessly fell into a war. He knew what he was doing and intentionally allowed Germany to be drawn into a war.

And what kind of war was this? He allowed Germany to be drawn into a war with TWO naval superpowers without any means of actually defeating them. Oh and by the way, Hitler foolishly declared war on America, the second naval superpower. At least he had the means to bomb Britain. He couldn't even touch America.

The jews worked night and day to get people to hate Germany. They worked night and day to whip up hysteria and hate propaganda against Germany. They wanted war as soon as possible. Hitler didn't need to help them.

The longer Hitler waited, the stronger his position seemd to get. Fascist parties were propping up everywhere. Another 5 years and Belgium might have flipped. Or perhaps he could have negotiated an alliance with Poland against the USSR. Or at the very least, Hitler could have improved his technological and military situation.


a4b799  No.11972771

File: 855c8f8bfc60e7c⋯.png (2.08 MB, 1600x966, 800:483, checkemwehrmacht.png)

>>11670247

>>11655097

>>11699426

>>11715433

>thirsty lazy niggers wanting free gibs

>>11655023

>>11655115

>I'll make a zip of my Uncle Adolfs

You're too kind anon


b91bd8  No.11993188

BUMP


2b0b08  No.11993219

>>11714254

>Tfw der Führer will never be the best man at your wedding


8a8d22  No.11993258

>>11972737

>Or perhaps he could have negotiated an alliance with Poland against the USSR

At the very least he could've waited until USSR invades Poland, that'd accomplish the following

>Bad PR for Soviets

>Poland sees that alliance with (((Britain))) is worthless

>UK doesn't have a legitimate reason to declare a war against Third Reich

>Could reclaim danzig not as Ebil gnatzee agressor but a pragmatic getting payment for helping out helpless poles against (((bolshevik menace)))


4c3cda  No.11993313

>>11785402

>Had Hitler not been merciful to the eternal anglo during Dunkirk, than he would have invaded Britain to score a victory.

Oh jesus. This again.

1. 400,000 men with their backs to the wall would fight and fight hard 9as they did)

Trying to destroy them would have cost the Germans dearly… which they couldn't afford because

2. Their supply lines were already stretched to the brink of collapse. They simply couldn't continue pressing on without risking the entire war.

And even so…

3. An invasion of Britain is a ridiculous notion. Germany didn't have a real navy so even if they slaughtered ever single one of those 400,000 men, they never would have reached the UK.

Only armatures believe in wars being won by attrition. War is always about maneuver and seizing important territory, NOT killing people. You could fail to kill a single enemy and still win a war if you managed to seize a strategic region that threatened the enemy.

Hitler did nothing wrong in allowing the British to escape because

1. He couldn't have stopped them anyway

and

2. He had far more important things to do like capture Paris and force the French to surrender.

Also, if Hitler did invade Britain, the Soviets would have immediately invaded Europe. And will his best men in Britain, the entire German Wehrmacht would have been destroyed and Europe would be completely exterminated.


4c3cda  No.11993323

>>11993258

That would be par excellence diplomacy that would have made Hitler's idol, Otto Von Bismark proud.


c19ef2  No.11993328

>>11993258

>negotiated an alliance with Poland

well during 1933-1938 Poland had good relations with Germany, during that time Poland was considered as German ally (after they together partitioned Czechoslovakia, Poland took Zaolzie since polish people lived there). Everything fucked up when Beck decided that Poland should be ally of colonial supper power Great Britain and not Germany. Even during that time USSR high command only considered in their strategy option when Poland and Germany attack together as allies.


2b0b08  No.11993330

>>11993258

Do you think the Russians weren't thinking about this too? (((Who))) was it that agitated in Poland for the massacre of German nationals in the Danzig Corridor?


ddff0b  No.11993372

>>11993328

Poland didn't partition Czechoslovakia then, we only took Zaolzie after they annexed it in 1919 under German pressure. We only partitioned Czechoslovakia in 1968.


c19ef2  No.11993394

>>11993372

Well you can see it that way but back then every nation seen Poland as copartitionist.


4c3cda  No.11993407

>>11993372

Um… actually Poland did partition Czechoslovakia with Germany back in 1938


df369b  No.11993411

File: 69a4e57b50840d2⋯.jpg (462.65 KB, 2448x2373, 816:791, 20180627_033031.jpg)

I would have made the perfect Aryan soldier for the Third Reich


ddff0b  No.11993453

>>11993407

Taking a city back isn't partitioning, it's reclamation.

>>11993394

If your outlook if defined by what majority believe then you don't belong here.


4c3cda  No.11993465

>>11993453

>Taking a city back isn't partitioning, it's reclamation.

Okay then. Germany was simply reclaiming Danzig from Poland.


28fa28  No.11993579

>>11993465

No one claimed Germany partitioned Poland during WW2, and Poland didn't hold it, the League of Nations did.


c19ef2  No.11993581

>>11993465

Rather bad example since Danzig/Gdansk was free state (with German majority) represented by Poland in world politics. It's retarded by XX century standards, but it served as thorn in Germany and Poland back since it served as tool to conflict escalation. Better example would be Polish "reclamation" of lower Silesia after WW2. But to end any D&C, I can say that nobody wanted it except Stalin/USSR (Another thorn in Polish-German relations?)

>>11993453

I'm just saying what majority of world seen during that time, not that I support such statement.


28fa28  No.11993630

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>11993581

>Better example would be Polish "reclamation" of lower Silesia after WW2

We gave it back most of it though, until the Kaiser imprisoned Piłsudski, so we annexed it again (plus more).


03a144  No.11993654

Do you guys think Stalin was the real winner of the war? it seems he essentially outmaneuvered the other two powers and just played the Axis against the Allies to his benefit.


17e66e  No.11993657

I've said it before and i will keep saying it.

The war against the USSR was unnecessary.

By '41,all of eastern europe hated Russia and was fascist,UK was alone and could not invade Germany,and with no russia,Germany can use it's army to defend the west,stopping USA from actually invading France,implying USA even joins the war anyways.

If Hitler just finished the UK,communism would slowly disappear as fascism becomes more common thanks to the success of Germany.


c19ef2  No.11993749

>>11993657

There would be no "succes of Germany" after 1942. Stalin planned war against whole Europe since communism could not sustain itself without total world control. To sustain this claim I'll just say that in 1941, USSR concentrated most of their airforce and land army on German border. Also they constructed new airfields to support their aircraft and new bridges so they could cross any river near border with ease. No country which wants to defend itself from other country, makes such efforts. During Barbarossa campaign Germans advanced just because every Russian thought that they are fighting to free them from communism. If Russians would attacked first they could pass through German lines by merit of their numbers alone. Not metioning that during that time German tanks and AT guns were far worse than Russian counterparts.

>>11993654

Yes, since he only acquired new territories and vassal nations after war. I don't count occupation zones.

>>11993630

I'm talking about Silesia after WW2 not Greaterpoland after WW1.


28fa28  No.11993765

>>11993749

Oh yea I see the "WW2" now, sorry my bad.


28fa28  No.11993776

File: 92d2f46411aa64b⋯.jpg (279.78 KB, 800x1102, 400:551, Rokossovsky.jpg)

>>11993769

Poland and Russia are the most unstoppable mix in history.


c19ef2  No.11993799

>>11993776

not really, but Germany with Poland would be interesting.

>>11993769

Yes, because (((they))) don't want another war between brothers... any white country supporting leftist propaganda need redpilling not annihilation since this is what (((they))) want.


8fdb9b  No.11994037

>>11993776

How many babies you think this man raped while in Germany?


c25947  No.11994836

File: b4ba96780da9026⋯.jpg (104.03 KB, 749x500, 749:500, your blue pills are too pa….jpg)

>>11651293

Your blue pills are painful for me to endure, Op.

Please lurk more so you won't be so … insufferable.


c25947  No.11994857

>>11993411

Because you think you're pretty?

That's kinda gay… you know about the SA and the Night of the Long Knives, right?


c25947  No.11994861

>>11993657

The war with the USSR was necessary because Stalin told Hitler he was going to Invade Romania to deny Germany the oil needed to continue the war on the Western Front.


c25947  No.11994880

File: 5139f62bc7975c2⋯.jpg (55.63 KB, 400x357, 400:357, holocast deaths.jpg)

File: 5570067aa617d63⋯.jpg (120.07 KB, 759x1023, 23:31, absurd stories of holocaus….jpg)

File: eed94f9e8ef5114⋯.jpg (203.31 KB, 600x785, 120:157, No proof Jewish holocaust.jpg)


000000  No.11994996

>>11993776

>>11993769

>Poland and Russia are the most unstoppable mix in history.

Such proud servants of the jew


db83ae  No.11995892

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Wehrmacht Parade


db83ae  No.11995897

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Germany during the Third Reich


db83ae  No.11995905

File: 6df88b81cb435ed⋯.webm (14.43 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Wehrmacht Parade [HD Colo….webm)


5f038e  No.11995911

>>11652437

>>11651293

Italian troops actually performed quite admirably in the Afrika Korps if you read accounts from both sides.

Also, the Regia Marina had several successes and in general Italy's navy was second only to Japan's among the Axis.

Italy suffered from a lack of materiel and a much smaller industrial base than its Axis partners.

Still, calling Italy 'useless' is unfair.

ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, ITALY TODAY IS NOWHERE NEAR AS CUCKED AS GERMANY.

Just like in Japan, Nationalism is on the rise in Italy (maybe even more so!)

Even openly Fascist groups like Fiamma Tricolore, Forza Nuova and of course Gianluca Iannone's CASAPOUND have many followers.


000000  No.11995931

>>11995911

>>11652437

>>11651293

>ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, ITALY TODAY IS NOWHERE NEAR AS CUCKED AS GERMANY.

LOL

Fact is Italy was/is one of the biggest points of entry for the flooding of Europe with Arabs and Nigger.

1 Jul 2018

Bulgarian prime minister Boyko Borissov

“Let’s face it: Greece, Italy and Bulgaria let the migrants through, and they went to Germany,” he said bluntly.

“That’s how the countries of Western Europe were flooded with migrants, and that’s why they want to send some of them back.”

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/01/bulgarian-prime-minister-close-europes-borders-imprison-illegals-deport-africa/


f8f860  No.11996552

>>11651334

Iraq was pro-Axis as well as Vichy-controlled Syria and the Shah also secretly aided the Axis, before the Allies invaded them all.


000000  No.11997732

>>11661430

>Israel would be founded in a post-Axis-victory timeline

you are massively retarded


aed400  No.11998107

SLIDE THREAD

IGNORE

SAGE

REPORT

If you don't know the history here like the back of your hand by now. Follow OP out the door and lurk moar.


5f038e  No.12001294

File: 3de8dc7725d4ab5⋯.jpg (59.46 KB, 400x565, 80:113, Alessandra-Mussolini-poste….jpg)

>>11995931

>Tor

>Kikebart

>Blaming actual Italians and not IMF Jew puppet politicians

Why don't we blame Germany and shit on them too while we're at it?

This reeks of D&C.

Fact is, TODAY, in Italy, Mussolini's female descendants have KEPT his name because it HELPS them politically.

Sure, Italy has issues, but Salvini is already starting to turn things around by trying to unite the North and the South and promote Nationalism for all Italians.

FUN FACT #1–MANY OF THE PROBLEMS IN ITALY ARE RELATED TO CORRUPTION THAT WOULDN'T EXIST IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE MAFIA'

FUN FACT #2–THE MAFIA WAS ALMOST COMPLETELY EXPELLED BY MUSSOLINI, BUT THEY RETURNED AFTER WWII AND THE FASCIST PERIOD WAS THE ONLY TIME WHEN THEY WEREN'T RUNNING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES IN ITALY.


5f038e  No.12001301

>>11996552

Yes, and Iran was actually massively invaded by the Allies in 1941, before Pearl Harbor ever occurred, and Reza Shah was forcefully removed from power, in complete violation of International Law.

This took place without any aggression from the Iranians or any Declaration of War from the Allies.

In fact, Iran still wants to claim 'reparations' over this, and they have a lot more of a case than Jews, Chinese, or Koreans do.


5f038e  No.12001311

>>11661430

Japs just wanted a co-prosperity sphere where nations like Philippines, Indonesia, India, Vietnam, and Burma could be free and independent to pursue their own interests but also aide in the collective interests of Asians and be free from Western domination.

And Japan actually did accomplish this, as all of these countries gained their independence either directly or indirectly as a result of the Japanese war effort.

There was absolutely no way that Japan would have maintained occupation or rule of such a vast empire for very long after the war, even if they had been victorious, and actually in most of these places they had already given rule back to the native inhabitants.

In fact, there was even a conference in 1943 for the Co-Prosperity Sphere where 7 of the aforementioned nations + Manchuria met and discussed policy as equals.


4eceb7  No.12005693

Does anyone have pics and infodumps on the Pacific Theatre? I find Burma especially interesting


303794  No.12005721

>>12001294

Why did her husband pay child hookers?

I mean that wasn't recent either, that's pre-2016.

That said, I bet the mafia probably don't like her.


4dc98b  No.12009717

>>12001294

>THE MAFIA WAS ALMOST COMPLETELY EXPELLED BY MUSSOLINI, BUT THEY RETURNED AFTER WWII AND THE FASCIST PERIOD WAS THE ONLY TIME WHEN THEY WEREN'T RUNNING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES IN ITALY.

And guess who facilitated the re introduction of the mafia into Italy,?


289960  No.12013802

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>The Real Deal Ep #202 Benton Bradberry, the author of The Myth of German Villainy (Part I)


289960  No.12013805

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12013802

>The Real Deal Ep #208 Benton Bradberry, the author of The Myth of German Villainy (Part II)


289960  No.12013864

File: 9dabb22acc21957⋯.pdf (6.76 MB, The Myth of German Villain….pdf)

File: dc6b721d2ac46bd⋯.jpg (314.44 KB, 540x792, 15:22, The Myth of German Villain….jpg)

The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry (2012)


000000  No.12014392

>>12001294

>>11995931

>Blaming actual Italians and not IMF Jew puppet politicians

>Why don't we blame Germany and shit on them too while we're at it?

You did

> NOWHERE NEAR AS CUCKED AS GERMANY

Italy started to vote for the Lega after it became too uncomfortable, they could not longer send the nigger and arabs to the north, they started to have a back que in Italy

The Bulgarian PM did speak the truth. Now that Italy is blocked (for the time) it is Spains time (again) to be "humanitarians" send the nigger north, while virtue signaling.

>>12001301

>>11996552

>Iran was actually massively invaded by the Allies in 1941

Joint, by Britain and the Soviet Union, with US lend lease.

>This took place without any aggression from the Iranians

Wait, they bought some railway stuff from Germany, that means they are in with Germany's plans for world domination.

>>12001311

>>11661430

Japs just wanted a co-prosperity sphere where nations like Philippines, Indonesia, India, Vietnam, and Burma could be free and independent to pursue their own interests but also aide in the collective interests of Asians and be free from Western domination.

They wanted oil and rubber


d8aa96  No.12032349

File: 8f58be1530e1dbd⋯.png (473.37 KB, 1120x790, 112:79, Map showing the locations ….png)

File: d2003e95243c8ae⋯.jpg (471.82 KB, 1080x680, 27:17, #Waffen-SS- Many Nations, ….jpg)

Bump


576e12  No.12046360

File: 0c3d472d92f8673⋯.webm (856.98 KB, 480x360, 4:3, Adolf Hitler at the funer….webm)

Adolf Hitler at the funeral of Dr. Fritz Todt in February, 1942

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Todt


160db2  No.12047369

File: 92d57f29278346d⋯.png (189.2 KB, 1073x703, 29:19, paradisus.png)

File: 0176e6d0bff30be⋯.png (186.27 KB, 546x350, 39:25, paradisusludaeorumoriginal….png)

Poland deserved all the suffering and death they got for being the prime kike breeding ground for centuries.


42a365  No.12049895

Videos

https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Empire+HD%22


d7ae11  No.12050804

File: 264119a622f1754⋯.png (594.25 KB, 1038x1024, 519:512, Poland 10th century.png)

There seems to be a lot of jews here thinking they can subvert anons who don't know much about history before the 20th century, shilling that Poland is "occupying rightful German territory", so here's a map of the country at it's inception. Notice how it bears a striking resemblance to modern Poland?


d9a251  No.12050946

>>11651293

>Were Germans the real niggers for invading Poland and conquering different countries such as Czechoslovakia?

Its not like it was a necessary step because the CCCP was planning a attack on Europe in 1942…


57882c  No.12050988

>>11651509

>>11651509

Do you mean Memmel, the ethnically German part of Lithuania? A nothing burger it seems.

>>11652211

Why the heck not? If the Democrats are the real nazis and Republicans are the real liberals why not Nazis being the real Jews?


57882c  No.12051011

File: 96eaabe75798d04⋯.jpg (138.95 KB, 474x394, 237:197, Jew Anglo.jpg)


6cab6b  No.12051099

File: b2dec0022bdf67a⋯.png (46.88 KB, 711x631, 711:631, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 01d0395b8d4d1ab⋯.png (43.24 KB, 695x565, 139:113, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 27f528ca784b163⋯.png (21.66 KB, 692x317, 692:317, ClipboardImage.png)

File: aa7a452ddfcac7f⋯.png (36.87 KB, 688x538, 344:269, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f5d69d8bb457cf0⋯.png (29.93 KB, 696x408, 29:17, ClipboardImage.png)

>>11651533

find "1001 quotes about jews" on archive.org. Free .pdf.


000000  No.12051537

>>12050804

>Poland 10th century.png)

>Poland is "occupying rightful German territory", so here's a map of the country at it's incep

“Poland”, in 10th century there was no Poland

LOL

In 1270, more than 300 years later:

The Book of Henryków (Polish: Księga henrykowska, Latin: Liber fundationis claustri Sancte Marie Virginis in Heinrichau) is a Latin chronicle of the Cistercian abbey in Henryków in Lower Silesia.

Note it is named by the German name Heinrichau in Latin.

It is notable as the earliest document to include a sentence written entirely in what can be interpreted as an Old Polish language[1][2]

The circumstances under which this sentence was written closely reflected the cultural and literary conditions in Poland in the first centuries of its national existence. It appeared in a Latin chronicle, written by a German abbot.

So the first known Polish words were recorded in 1270 by a German in in the German abbey of Heinrichau Silesia.

If we want to discus borders based on the early middle age, then half of Europe belongs to Germany.


ff8d7b  No.12052333

>>12050804

nobody gives a fuck about shitty poland


d51a18  No.12053286

File: e8cb313be24bba4⋯.png (17.16 KB, 778x58, 389:29, Screen Shot 2018-08-23 at ….png)

File: 1b9976e72f965a3⋯.png (1.46 MB, 1310x1138, 655:569, Screen Shot 2018-08-23 at ….png)

>>11994996

I know we shouldn't be promoting interethnic divisions, but I've been to Poland twice and I've got to say that the Poles are the most jewy of any Europeans I've ever met in person. They have this national mythos developed around their near-destruction, just like the jews. They talk about their Partitions as if it makes them special, but I've also been to Wales, Breton, Frisia and the Basque country and none of those people are so butthurt about their history. None of them are even autonomous countries, but they also don't pretend that Haman-er, I mean Hitler, wanted to destroy them all like the Poles do. The Welsh joke about the English, but the Poles actually have a real hate boner for the Germans and the Russians (and Ukrainians…) They see themselves as such victims, and it's hard for me to take them seriously when Pollacks come to this board and try to rewrite history to fit into their myths—just like the jews do! I'm an Anglo and an American and I can own up to the evils of my people, but this whole fucking thread is just Pollacks shitting on Uncle Adolf and pretending that Poland dindu nuffin. Wikijew even says that 6 gorillion poles died in the war. Funny that!

Fucking grow a pair and get with the program.


16529d  No.12053314

>>12053286

>>12052333

Kikes sowing D&C.


ff8d7b  No.12053349

>>12053314

>muh DEE ENN SEE

some polack saying eastern Germany belongs to his kind, smh. he had to be put in his place. what a great civilization the Germans build in east Pomerania and Prussia, and the Poles and Russians had to destroy it


d7ae11  No.12054789

>>12053349

>It's not D&C I'm just creating an internal division on the board

Yeah we get it schlomo but your tactics are a bit tired


ff8d7b  No.12054830

File: a3138f24d587b4c⋯.png (20.84 KB, 253x228, 253:228, better.png)

>>12054789

>blah blah blah everybody that disagrees with me is a kike

>your opinion is dangerous and must be shut down via namecalling


d7ae11  No.12054846

>>12054830

You sure got me, you posted a map of territory that was conquered through war! Unfortunately unlike you I can accept that land changes hands, because literally every country in history has lost and gained it. Too bad you're too butthurt to realize the reason Germany ever had it in the first place is the exact same reason Poland has it now. (Or what's more likely is that you're a kike pitting brother against brother)

>>12053286

That doesn't say anything about the holocaust. Recall that World War 2 was a ==WAR==, and wars are known for having a lot of fighting in them. This particular war involved a lot of fighting in Poland. Are you telling me the Germans were perfect innocent creatures who's bullets would automatically bend away from any civilian? Surely nobody is retarded enough to expect one of history's bloodiest conflicts to leave to population of the countries in which it was fought untouched, so what are you trying to prove?


000000  No.12055240

>>12054846

>Pole declares might is right you gnatzis

>Muh Teutonic knights

>Muh Ostsiedelung

>Muh Partions

>Muh Nazis

>Muh Katyn

>Muh Muh Ukrainians burned my farm and stole Liv

>Muh hall of costs

>Muh Polish Death Camps

>Muh Warsaw

>Muh Russians

>Muh Smolensk

>Muh Nordstream


c0177a  No.12056303

>>12054846

>you posted a map of territory that was conquered through war

…by Russia, most of which was then given to Poland. Poland had just got assraped by Germany in a few weeks prior to that. Poland does not deserve the land no matter how you slice it.


536c83  No.12077079

>>11654748

based bulgar


25f16f  No.12077245

>>11651315

Hitler could of won, that’s what depresses me about WW2.


a6c7a7  No.12077670

>>11971691

At least one sane post in this thread.

>>11993799

>not really, but Germany with Poland would be interesting.

Considering our bloody and violent history that's borderline abstract, but fucking hell, if the outcome is cleaning the planet from kikes and shitskins than count me in. We can sort our shit after that.

t. Polak


d59631  No.12078015

Who was the biggest scumbag in the war and why was it Churchill


5c97f2  No.12078199

File: 92d57f29278346d⋯.png (189.2 KB, 1073x703, 29:19, paradisus.png)

File: 9b490b8ae8eeedd⋯.png (2.41 MB, 1600x1418, 800:709, 1471454847919-0.png)

File: 1110d86c33f9271⋯.jpg (235.23 KB, 2400x1186, 1200:593, 2b042afd111d03732368345440….jpg)

File: ec9239e97dd43ad⋯.jpg (79.11 KB, 720x677, 720:677, ec9239e97dd43ad8b006ca0ee4….jpg)

>>11993769

>Poland

absolutely. worst white country by far, should not have a coastline and should be about 1/3rd of the size that it is

>Russia

Russia was baste before Bolshevism


9191bd  No.12079475

>>11993411

>posting your face on hatechan

Newfag normalnigger leave

>I would have made the perfect Aryan soldier for the Third Reich

You look like a soyboy. Honour, loyalty, courage and strength were more important than cy +3 le blonde hair blue eyes maymay. Stop taking selfies and fawning over yourself.


536c83  No.12079762

>>11993411

get a new haircut, drop the glasses and you wont look as a faggot i guess

but right now you look like a turbo faggot


f3ed84  No.12089817

File: ba75d86cdc9d04f⋯.jpg (109 KB, 675x960, 45:64, Luftwaffe Major Hans Phili….jpg)

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/theimpartialtruth2/


8a8d22  No.12089880

>>12078199

>1st pic

jews got to be tumors who never assimilated or even spoke the local language, eventually leading to the disappearance of Poland, but still a pretty good deal considering history of kikes in England and USA where they even have the audacity to participate in public life while pretending to be white

How unfortunate there were no efficient genocide extermination methods in XVI century.

>2nd pic

>It's okay when we divide politically weak countries, but bad when they partition us as a result of military weakness

having 6 times less jews than Poland you managed to match them at moral relativism.

Clausewitz's teachings don't apply to germans?


e16089  No.12092914

<Author John Wear reveals evidence contradicting the narrative we have been taught about Germany, Japan & the Allies in World War II. WEARS WAR is the battle to bring FAKE HISTORY into accord with the facts.

https://wearswar.wordpress.com/


24800b  No.12105315

What's the name of the book which supposedly radicalised Himmler? I've seen it posted here, it's a novel and people said to read it instead of siege.


855263  No.12105361

>>12105315

I think I know what book you are talking about but i cant remember the name. Im pretty sure it's two word and the first word starts with v.


24800b  No.12105464

>>12105361

I have a feeling the word 'garden' is in the title and it may have been written by a woman.

I could be completely wrong but it's driving me crazy, I saw it posted here a few times.


2eba59  No.12105561

>>12105315

What supposedly made Himmler "radical" or "radicalised"? Nothing from what I know of him, but do tell your view.


24800b  No.12105625

>>12105561

The way the book was described when someone posted it was the it was a very radical book, a personal favourite of Himmler and they said that it 'radicalised' him.

Might not be true but I want to see it, I'm sure they said it was banned by the allies after the war as well.


000000  No.12105933

>>12089880

>>12078199

>jews got to be tumors who never assimilated or even spoke the local language

Hoho

>The baptism of the Frankists was celebrated with great solemnity in the churches of Lwów, with members of the Polish szlachta (nobility) acting as god-parents. The neophytes adopted the names of their godfathers and godmothers, and ultimately joined their ranks. Frank himself was baptized in Lwów (September 17, 1759) and again in Warsaw the next day, with Augustus III as his godfather. Frank's baptismal name was "Joseph" (Józef). In the course of one year more than 500 individuals were converted to Christianity at Lwów, and nearly a thousand in the following year. By 1790, 26,000 Jews were recorded baptised in Poland.[7]

Jews were an integral part of old Poland. They served as middle men between Poles, that is the Szlachta nobility and bydlos, literal goyim, that were not considered member of the Polish nation.

It was the Polish Commonwealth that let the jews grow back from near extinction (less than 300 surviving individuals in Germany) to become millions infecting Europe and America.

>It's okay when we divide politically weak countries, but bad when they partition us as a result of military weakness

Weak argument when your country sole existence is based on the self determination of people and you insist to violate that of the German people.

No, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Belorussians don’t want to be Polish, so cry a little bit longer about your passed away empire you wish you could restore.

Now go back to beg for more money from Merkel and curse the “Nazis”.


2eba59  No.12106031

File: ad2d712c51b2b7d⋯.webm (6.43 MB, 760x568, 95:71, Dutch man reads from Mein….webm)

>>12105625

Okay. Speaking of bookburning after the war:

https://ia801302.us.archive.org/22/items/NarrationsLootAndPlunder4/Narrations%20Loot%20and%20Plunder%204.mp3


2eba59  No.12106095

Not to disparage the man in the photo but the comment section might use some insight.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0RQAKTG


eb7583  No.12106872

File: dd3041346684549⋯.jpg (116.87 KB, 540x720, 3:4, oera linda cover.jpg)

>>12105315

You thinking of the Oera Linda Boek, the so called Himmler's bible? It's a modern forgery but it's pretty interesting.


24800b  No.12107331

>>12106872

That's not it unfortunately. It's a novel.


7579e5  No.12138080

>>11651293

The truth is sad (for poles and suprisingly germans), if III Reich didn't invade Poland in 1939, Germans will be welcoming year 1940 with bankruptcy.


8cea81  No.12162071

Italy caused ww2


ab00cf  No.12162157

Why did Hitler cuck out at Dunkirk? He could've destroyed the English. I wonder how the war would have turned out had he not done that. He should have been ruthless instead of showing weakness and kindess, look what it cost him.


ab00cf  No.12162162

>>12138080

I read this a lot, I do not understand economics and I read that the German economy was one big bubble ready to bust the only thing to keep it going was a war economy. I don't know what to believe anymore.


943013  No.12162174

>>12162157

Goering told him that the Luftwaffe could stop the evacuation on its own and later lied or misstated the number of ships that were getting through. Hitler believed him both times and so no attempt was made to attack the Allies at Dunkirk.


ab00cf  No.12162181

>>12162174

Christ in heaven, why?


943013  No.12162214

>>12162181

Air forces were still pretty new at that point so it could have been that they just greatly overestimated the Luftwaffe's capabilities (which they did disastrously during the Battle of Stalingrad). Also, communications were just not as good back then, which could have led to the leadership misunderstanding what was happening on the ground.


2c5e00  No.12162230

>>11651293

hitler did only one thing wrong.

he was too soft. but not the next one.


ab00cf  No.12162432

>>12162214

I'm not too knowledgeable about WW2 but I imagine Dunkirk was not their only blunder that cost them. Well, we better hurry the fuck up and create a 4th reich and do it right this time or else we'll go extinct.


d12c99  No.12163139

File: 43ef37fd722d290⋯.pdf (782.23 KB, The Artist Within The Warl….pdf)

File: 1e96caada708385⋯.jpg (36.75 KB, 318x480, 53:80, Artist-Within-Warlord-Cove….jpg)

>>12162162

>>12162157

in his own words.. PDF related

>(…) “We had to attack toward the west – Paris and northern France had to be taken very fast, to make it impossible for the English to land additional troops. We also had to direct an offensive toward the south, with a thrust behind the French fortifications. We had to enforce a final decision and thus bring the French campaign to a quick finish because there was another reason of a military-political kind. I did not remain orientated to only one side: for a long time I was listening, worried, toward the east. And did not a slight possibility of peace still exist, even though a vague one, which I might have obstructed by a pitiless defeat of the Dunkirk army?

Continues on the second page


ff8f8a  No.12163629

File: 0367fa4df0906aa⋯.gif (103.9 KB, 150x100, 3:2, 0367fa4df0906aa59980ee2d7e….gif)

>>11993411

Came here to post: your a faggot


34d930  No.12177001

File: 748f5b34a34a7d6⋯.pdf (13.13 MB, Hitler's Revolution - Rich….pdf)

>>12162157

That's far from the full picture. Did you read the PDF above?

>>12162162

No, the war was a strain on the country of course


34d930  No.12177022

>>12162157

https://youtu.be/iwFzm6rZH3o?t=1h9m49s

^ Dunkirk


15b52c  No.12177200

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


15b52c  No.12177205

>>11652975

where did you get this information from?


6f63b2  No.12177210

>>11651412

That’s true but it’s not the whole story or even I think the “real” reason. Hitler knew the SU was planning to invade Poland as well and if those ethnic Germans wound up behind Soviet lines it would be even harder to recover the territory at that point. Honestly, there might be other stuff too that we don’t know and was destroyed in document form. Nothing in history is ever simple or black and white.


6f63b2  No.12177214

As an aside, what do you guys think about the Table Talks? Real? Fake? Proof for either?


34d930  No.12177257

>>12177214

I'm sure its authentic. Great,very illuminating educative talks.

>>12177210

>Honestly, there might be other stuff too that we don’t know and was destroyed in document form. Nothing in history is ever simple or black and white.

That's nothing but speculation. Its pretty well documented and you too answered it


34d930  No.12177260

>>12177200

What's your reasoning for posting that hack's video? I jumped to the middle of the video and he completely bastardizes what national socialism means within seconds.


d74bd7  No.12177288

File: 9eb48ddf963af47⋯.jpg (35.26 KB, 368x560, 23:35, WWII_anime.jpg)

>>11651293

>Poland

Germany did not start the war with Poland this was started by the Polish while the British egged them on and promised them Berlin behind the scenes, they did similar things with Italy in both world wars however Italy learned not to trust them after WW1 (well the fascists anyway). The Polish emboldened by the British engaged in crimes and murder against the German people in Poland and tried very hard to cut off East Prussia from Germany…. More or less a blockade, furthermore weeks before the Germans retook their own lands there was an influx of thousands of Germans that escaped and or where expelled from their homes in poland (new reels, footage and newspapers documenting this still exist) whom provided proof of malfeasance and abuse by the Polish government.

> Italy so useless

Most of that is British propaganda and cover ups that are now taken as "fact" since information from the Italian and even the German side ( to some extent) is scarce however information relating to the war effort against England by the Italians that has turned up since the end of WWII paints a different picture of events.

If however you would like to examine the problems with the Italian armed forces in WWII there are 2 main problems. The first was leadership. Poor leadership in the Italian army was directly related to antiqued officer corp. training practices which did not value merit but one’s connections/birth (aristocracy) incidentally this was similar to the British officer corps. Good officers were often punished because they overshadowed “high birth/ well connected officers”.

Moreover the fascists did not control all of the armed forces instead the royals/royalist controlled a large part of the armored forces which resulted in entrenching out touch old officers who did not understand modern( WWII) warfare and were slow to adopt existing technologies for example radar on ships which not only did Italy have radar prewar but the Germans sent them some units for their ships as well (later) however, the royals blocked all attempts to install radar on ships until very late (42-43).

The second issue was PRODUCTION Italy fielded only a fraction of the tanks and aircraft than the British. Low production was due to Italy’s mostly unindustrialized and largely agrarian based economy.

>bomber harris

He was an unhinged jewish agent that helped topple not only Europe but specifically the British empire with what he and Churchill did in WWII. The one thing about diversity that genuinely makes me happy is when I see shit-skins defacing churchill and bomber harris statues in England.

>11651315

>The axis was doomed from the start and hopelessly out manned from day 1.

Why is it that leftist/allied-philes throw around the term “The Axis” like this?

Incorrect, what beat the Germans and their allies was the lend-lease sent to the Soviet Union, had the US never send aid to the USSR it would have collapsed and starved (food stuffs were a large part of LL). Stalin himself was worried about this as late as 1944 and grew increasing desperate and “insistent” on the allies opening a second front. Stalin considered North Africa and Italy front a joke that did nothing to funnel German forces away from the east and alleviate his problems.

>11655009

> Mussolini f.e. ordered the invasion of Greece against all reason.

2 reasons for Greece, first Greece was communist and allied with the British as such they were undermining the security of Italy via Albina, and Yugoslavia secondly Mussolini hoped to disperse the Commonwealth forces to Greece to undermine the British from securing a much needed reinforcements in North Africa. Which he was successful unfortunately his generals did not take the incentive to crush the British units and soon lost this advantage (reason given was lack of supplies and restricting the army).


0019a7  No.12177316

>>12177288

>> Italy so useless

>Most of that is British propaganda and cover ups that are now taken as "fact"

They fucking lost a war against us. How wrong could the claim be?


0019a7  No.12177324

>>12177288

> first Greece was communist and allied with the British

That's downright wrong. The Metaxa regime was notoriously hard right and anti-communist and both brits and domestic commies propagandized that he was an Axis sympathizer. If anything the Italian invasion really undermined the far right's rule and human reserves and exhausted the national army while it allowed the communist traitors to build a reputation of patriotic defenders and come as the top of the military power of Greece through conscripting resistance fighters after the Germans curbstomped the National army..


d74bd7  No.12177386

File: 4c0c1d0085c0a3d⋯.jpg (178.87 KB, 848x296, 106:37, d.jpg)

>>12177316

>us

Only due to American intervention, anon before that England was in a very precarious situation and suffered great losses much of which was not reported or was under-reported they likewise over-blew their claims against the axis powers particularly for the Italians in the post war they did not fix this for accuracy.

>>12177324

Pic for you m8.




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