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07187b  No.11811520

The Untold Story of Late-Ancient Rome's Afroid-Asiatic Immigration Problem

'''We hear a lot about the "barbarian hordes" from the north and how they hastened Rome's decline. We hear a lot less about their mud-race problems from the south and east. Gee, I wonder (((why))).```

What follows is a patchwork of quotes from various sources hinting at the scope of Ancient Rome's racial cucking problem, and the predictable decline and fall thereafter.

***

1. In his piece, “Race mixture in the Roman Empire”, Frank outlined how he first realized that race mixture was the cause of the change in Roman society. By studying the names of graves on the Appian ay in Rome, he found that huge numbers of late Roman Republic inhabitants had names which originated in the (((Levant,)) or Middle East, in strong contrast to the early inhabitants of Rome, who had Latin names.

Frank describes it so:

"There is one surprise that the historian usually experiences upon his first visit to Rome. It may be the Galleria Lapidaria of the Vatican or at the Lateran Museum, but, if not elsewhere, it can hardly escape him upon his first walk up the Appian Way. As he stops to decipher the names upon the old tombs that line the road, hoping to chance upon one familiar to him from his Cicero or Livy, he finds prenomen and nomen promising enough, but the cognomina all seem awry. L. Lucretius Pamphilus, A. Aemilius Alexa, M. Clodius Philostosgas do not smack of freshman Latin. And he will not readily find in the Roman writers now extant an answer to the questions that these inscriptions invariably raise. Do these names imply that the Roman stock was completely changed after Cicero’s day, and was ```the satirist (Juvenal) recording a fact when he wailed that the Tiber had captured the waters of the Syrian Orontes?'''

(Frank, Tenney, 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American

Historical Review, Volume 21

07187b  No.11811528

“To discover some new light upon these fundamental questions of Roman history, I have tried to gather such fragmentary data as the corpus of inscriptions might afford. This evidence is never decisive in its purport, and it is always, by the very nature of the material, partial in its scope, but at any rate it may help us to interpret our literary sources to some extent. It has at least convinced me that Juvenal and Tacitus were not exaggerating. ==It is probable that when these men wrote a very small percentage of the free plebians on the streets of Rome could prove unmixed Italian descent. By far the larger part — perhaps ninety percent - had Oriental blood in their veins.”==

Frank, Tenney, 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American

Historical Review, Volume 21


07187b  No.11811562

Lot of name-changin' going on as fake (((Greeks))) flooded Rome

"Clearly the Greek name was considered as a sign of dubious origin among the Roman plebians, and the freedman family that rose to any social ambitions made short shift of it. For these reasons, therefore, I consider that the presence of a Greek name in the immediate family is good evidence that the subject of the inscription is of servile or foreign stock."

These “Greek” names were for the greatest part not Greeks at all, and were Middle Easterners who had adopted Greek names.


07187b  No.11811571

The writer Juvenal, speaking of the Roman population, actually points out the Levantine origin of many of these people in his writings, referring to the Syrian River, the Orontes:

“These dregs call themselves Greeks but how small a portion is from

Greece; the River Orontes has long flowed into the Tiber”

(Juvenal, III, 62).


07187b  No.11811593

"Therefore, when the urban inscriptions show that seventy per cent of the city slaves and freedmen bear Greek names and that a larger portion of the children who have Latin names have parents of Greek names, this at once implies that the East was the source of most of them, and with that inference Bang’s conclusions (Dr. Bang of Germany) entirely agree. In his list of slaves that specify their origin as being outside Italy (during the empire), by far the larger portion came from the Orient, especially from Syria and the provinces of Asia Minor, with some from Egypt and Africa (which for racial classification may be taken with the Orient). Some are from Spain and Gaul, but a considerable portion of these came originally from the East.”

“Very few slaves are recorded from the Alpine and Danube provinces, while Germans rarely appear, except among the imperial bodyguard. Bang remarks that Europeans were of greater service to the empire as soldiers than servants….and this, in turn, helps to explain the strikingly Oriental aspect of the new population.”

(Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American

Historical Review, Volume 21, pp. 700, 701).


07187b  No.11811610

Frank went on to explain the push and pull effect that led to the racial makeup change in Rome: of how native Romans were drawn away from Rome by colonization and military service, and of how their places were taken up by slaves, in serfdom and as freedmen, in Rome itself:

“Thus, during the thirty years before Tiberius Gracchus, the census

statistics show no increase. During the first century B. C., the importation of captives and slaves continued, while the free-born citizens were being wasted in the social, Sullan, and civil wars. Augustus affirms that he had had half a million citizens under arms, one eighth of Rome’s citizens, and that the most vigorous part.”

(Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American

Historical Review, Volume 21 p. 703).


07187b  No.11811624

"[White Romans] {spent their twenty years of vigor in garrison duty

while the slaves, exempt from such services, lived at home and increased in numbers.

In other words, the native stock was supported by less than a normal birthrate, whereas the stock of foreign extraction had not only a fairly normal birthrate but a liberal quota of manumissions to its advantage.”

(Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American Historical Review, Volume 21 p. 703).


5cf9d0  No.11811640

File: 232d8698cf29aeb⋯.jpg (46.97 KB, 586x390, 293:195, zeus.h21[1].jpg)


07187b  No.11811647

ROMAN FATE SEALED

Duff pointed out that even by the time of Octavian Augustus, there were significant numbers of ‘Orientals’ in Rome:

“Even in Augustus’ day the process of Orientalization had gone too far. The great emperor saw the clouds, but he did not know they had actually burst. His legislation would have been a prudent and not a whit excessive a century earlier; but in his time Rome was a (((cosmopolitan))) city, and the doom of the Empire was already sealed”

(A.M. Duff, Freedmen in the Early Roman Empire, pp. 207, 208)


07187b  No.11811659

Friendly fucking reminder:

IGNORE BOTS

IGNORE SHILLS

AND

CARRY ON


07187b  No.11811673

‘THE RACE WENT UNDER

Frank’s study of the Roman family lines revealed exactly how native Romans vanished. He writes:

“The race went under. The legislation of Augustus and his successors, while aiming at preserving the native stock, was of the myopic kind so usual in social lawmaking, and failing to reckon with the real nature of the problem involved, it utterly missed the mark. By combining epigraphical and literary references, a fairly full history of the noble families can be procured, and this reveals a startling inability of such families to perpetuate themselves.”

(Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': American

Historical Review, Volume 21: pp. 704, 705).

“We know, for instance, in Caesar’s day of forty-five patricians, only one of whom is represented by posterity when Hadrian came to power. The Aemilsi, Fabii, Claudii. Manlii, Valerii, and all the rest, with the exception of Comelii, have disappeared. Augustus and Claudius raised twenty-five families to the patricate, and all but six disappear before Nerva’s reign. Of the families of nearly four hundred senators recorded in 65 A.D. under Nero, all trace of a half is lost by Nerva’s day, a generation later. And the records are so full that these statistics may be assumed to represent with a fair degree of accuracy the disappearance of the male stock of the families in question.”

Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire'


1b1840  No.11811674

File: 85e52aae5dccf15⋯.jpg (25.64 KB, 307x395, 307:395, 85e52aae5dccf15285db5dfe74….jpg)

Italians have a way better government than 99% of West Europe. Mediterraneans are strong and honorable people who volunteered en mass to help with Operation Barbarosa. We are fierce warriors and it was our bold inclinations that led us to being major changers on the world stage. I like all White people and I want Europe and the USA to remain White.

Whether you consider us White or not, we want your countries to remain homogenous and other Europeans are also great. Stop with the divide and conquer tactics


94ad0d  No.11811677

>>11811520

>1. In his piece, “Race mixture in the Roman Empire”, Frank outlined how he first realized that race mixture was the cause of the change in Roman society.

So this is the cause of the current demographic of Northern Africa and Western Asia?


07187b  No.11811685

“Of course members of the aristocracy were the chief sufferers from the tyranny of the first century, but this havoc was not all wrought by delatores and assassins.

The voluntary choice of childlessness accounts largely for the unparalleled condition.

This is as far as the records help in this problem, which, despite the silences is probably the most important phase of the whole question of the change of race. Be the causes what they may,

the rapid decrease of the old aristocracy and the native stock was clearly concomitant with a twofold increase from below; by a more normal birth-rate of the poor, and the constant manumission of slaves.”

(Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire'


07187b  No.11811702

>>11811674

OP here. I consider Italians white.

This shit happened 2000 years ago. Today's Italians are neither the original Romans nor the shitskins that followed them. If you are Italian, you should know from you own history how much northern immigration came in later, in countless waves, to correct this problem.

This is a specific case of how mud races helped collapse the empire 2000 years ago. It has almost nothing to do with today's racial makeup of Italy.


c5a164  No.11811708

>>11811674

Preachin to the choir bub. If our governments were halfway close to yours or poland's we wouldn't be in this mess.


28a86a  No.11811721

File: 26badae05f6fb95⋯.jpg (372.55 KB, 1140x1061, 1140:1061, wewuzeverythang.jpg)

Das right!


07187b  No.11811728

ROMAN SOCIETY BECAME “ORIENTALIZED”

Duffy goes on to describe the social change process at work in Roman society:

“It may be asked in this connexion what became of the Latin and Italian stock. Reasons may be given for the coming of the foreigners, but at the same time some explanation may be demanded for the disappearance of the native. In the first place ==there was a marked decline in the birthrate among the aristocratic families. . . .==

As society grew more pleasureloving, as convention raised artificially the standard of living, the voluntary choice of celibacy and childlessness became a common feature among the upper classes.”

(Duff, A.M., Freedmen in the Early Roman Empire, Cambridge, Engl: W

Heffer and Sons, Ltd., 1958 (1928), p. 200).

“But what of the lower-class Romans of the old stock? They were

practically untouched by revolution and tyranny, and the growth of luxury cannot have affected them to the same extent as it did the nobility. Yet even here the native stock declined.

The decay of agriculture. . . drove numbers of farmers into the towns, where, unwilling to engage in trade, they sank into unemployment and poverty, and where, in their endeavours to maintain a high standard of living, they were not able to support the cost of rearing children.

==Many of these free-born Latins were so poor that they often complained that the foreign slaves were much better off than they —

and so they were.”==

(Duff, A.M., Freedmen in the Early Roman Empire, Cambridge, Engl: W Heffer and Sons, Ltd., 1958 (1928), pp. 200, 201).


5cf9d0  No.11811739

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57197d  No.11811742

>>11811520

I've read that Ashkenazi DNA shows Semitic male roots and Italian/Greek female roots.

I wonder if it was their genesis being noticed here?


07187b  No.11811762

By the Third Century AD, many of the emperors were actually descendants of the slaves of earlier centuries. La Piana states it this way:

“The denationalized capital of the great empire, came to be ruled by the offspring of races which originally had come to the city only to serve.”

(La Piana, Foreign Groups in Rome, p. 223).

‘90 PERCENT’ OF ROME’S POPULATION OF ‘SERVILE EXTRACTION’

Based on his research, Frank goes on to estimate that as much as 90 percent of the population of the city of Rome was of “servile extraction.” While this 90 percent would not all have been of foreign race, the majority most certainly were.


07187b  No.11811779

==CHANGE OF RACE EXPLAINS CHANGE IN CIVILIZATION–

“This Orientalization of Rome’s populace has a more important bearing than is usually accorded it upon the larger question of why the spirit and acts of imperial Rome are totally different from those of the republic. There was a complete change in the temperament!”

(Frank, ibid., p. 705).

“There is today a healthy activity in the study of the economic factors that contributed to Rome’s decline. But what lay behind and constantly reacted upon all such causes of Rome’s disintegration was, after all, to a considerable extent, the fact that the people who had built Rome had given way to a different race.”

(Frank, ibid., p. 705).

“The lack of energy and enterprise, the failure of foresight and common sense, the weakening of moral and political stamina, all were concomitant with the gradual diminution of the stock which, during the earlier days, had displayed these qualities.”

(Frank, ibid., p. 705).


07187b  No.11811790

“The cumulative effect of these (((Oriental religions))) helped to break the old Roman character. Another more powerful solvent was also inherited from slavery and manumissions. The profuse intermixture of race, containing without interruption from 200 B.C. far into the history of the Empire, produced a type utterly different from that which characterized the heroes of the early republic.

Instead of the hardy and patriotic Roman with his proud indifference to pecuniary gain, we find too often under the Empire an idle pleasure-loving cosmopolitan whose patriotism goes no further than applying for the dole and swelling the crowds in the amphitheatre.”

(Frank, ibid., pp. 205, 206).


07187b  No.11811802

tl,dr:

1. The original Roman people were dissipated by war, foreign service in the military and emigration to their colonies.

2. Their place in Rome and surrounds was taken by the wholesale importation of slaves, the majority of whom had come from the mixed race southeastern reaches of the empire.

3. Eventually not even the emperors themselves were of Roman extraction; and as a result, the remaining Roman population became increasingly of mixed racial origin as time progressed.


30197f  No.11811841

CIA:

>>11811577


07187b  No.11811865

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File: cc58fab757fa6c6⋯.jpg (11.21 KB, 236x307, 236:307, 11.jpg)

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261f44  No.11811891

That's the problem of having such a large empire composed of thousand different cultures and ethnicities, no matter how much the romans tried to civilize their barbarians, even going as far as giving them citizenship and lands. The subjects would always remain true to their roots, with one or two remaining loyal, but only under the threat of a common enemy like the huns.

And they didn't have much of a choice when it comes to their shitskin berber migrants, they were the responsible for feeding the whole empire with the grains from North Africa and Egypt, so it was better for the romans to get on their good side or else there wouldn't be any panis et circensis.


383d09  No.11811930

>>11811790

Nice work, OP. As we come close to our own destruction as a civilization, it is easier to find the causes that would lead to such a demise. Destroying the demography of the original inhabitants seems like an obvious cause for the demise of the international empire of Rome. It is idiotically reductive when people like toynbee try to apply the garbage scientisim of economics to simplify the civilization collapse. It could be an aspect, but its of that marxist reduction of complexities. I'm sure the Romans allowed for the northerners to attack their society when they became disenfranchised by the changing demography and probable jewish take over.

/pol/ and spengler have been really helpful in making people aware of the cyclical nature of history. A problem exists, however, in that the graduate level history students - that I've talked to - are all being indoctrinated against concepts of repeating history. They simply don't believe that history repeats.


a445db  No.11811931

Bump. Enjoyed your thread OP.


68767f  No.11811945

>>11811577

I actually agree with you. If a white person is a slob and they try to latch on to some notion of a glorious history as if there is some association, it only denigrates that legacy.

In other words, I vomit at the NY dago with a gabbagol sandwich and a tracksuit claiming they're a Roman, as much as I do the fat Germanic alcoholic overweight degenerate hookup culture loser who thinks he's a displaced SS man.


a14670  No.11811961

File: 8638118232b0364⋯.jpg (42.55 KB, 375x600, 5:8, dbb3e2a5addc2cb1d91490cd10….jpg)

File: 646a6991f1d64d8⋯.png (11.1 KB, 327x154, 327:154, images.png)

File: 9dc8b4358da45ab⋯.jpeg (11.75 KB, 198x254, 99:127, images (1).jpeg)

File: 2b4f6e73efc975d⋯.jpg (122.73 KB, 740x618, 370:309, CiceroJewsQuoteMeme.jpg)

File: 700b3d0340e6d70⋯.png (319.49 KB, 720x311, 720:311, When the Jews return to Zi….png)

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1835889

http://sci-hub.tw/

great find Anon. i had never heard this theory about Semite DACA slaves causing the fall of Rome. i have only heard about the German Goths and Barbarians causing it. gee, i wonder (((who))) could be behind promoting a pro-immigration revisionist history blaming Germans for destroying the Glory of Rome?

these kinds of academic redpill hate facts are verboten to even acknowledge nowadays. this inspires me to dig into JSTOR and find other papers from the eugenics era of the 1920's about the racial roots of Rome and later European empire's collapse.


667c53  No.11811986

File: 8d284a8d66b256f⋯.jpg (18.37 KB, 688x359, 688:359, this is what happens when ….jpg)

>Roman empire

>real

The worst part about this meme: it spawned the civcucks.


000000  No.11811988

>>11811673

>“We know, for instance, in Caesar’s day of forty-five patricians, only one of whom is represented by posterity when Hadrian came to power. The Aemilsi, Fabii, Claudii. Manlii, Valerii, and all the rest, with the exception of Comelii, have disappeared. Augustus and Claudius raised twenty-five families to the patricate, and all but six disappear before Nerva’s reign. Of the families of nearly four hundred senators recorded in 65 A.D. under Nero, all trace of a half is lost by Nerva’s day, a generation later. And the records are so full that these statistics may be assumed to represent with a fair degree of accuracy the disappearance of the male stock of the families in question.”

Excellent quote.

That is future awaiting the ruling traitors. They may think of themselves as smarter and more cunning than the hoi polloi, the masses, but the undermining of the ethnic, racial base of their countries is ultimate dooming them. They will go extinct, their families are to be ereased by the new ruling classes formed by the immigrants they let in.

>>11811930

>cyclical nature of history. indoctrinated against concepts of repeating history. They simply don't believe that history repeats.

History don’t repeat. Changes happened and are irreversible.

The mechanisms, human nature stay the same.

It is the fetishized believe in “progress” that it is used to make people believe them to be better than their ancestors, them not in need of learning from history.


000000  No.11812028

>>11811961

>blaming Germans for destroying the Glory of Rome?

Well, it is true, whatever of the “glory of Rome” was left.

A hollowed out Rome, that was cruising on auto-pilot, breaking apart because of lack of maintenance, lack of people who would be able too do so. The stock building the foundations and house long ago has passed away.

There is a reason why Roman author and politicians lamented the demise, the times of the republic.

Historians do acknowledge the economically and militarily impact of the stratification of Roman society, the dis-empowering of the little people, farmers and concentration of wealth and power in few hands, while importing masses of cheap labour in the form of slaves, a free-man could not compete with.

Todays historians, in contrast to those of the turn around of the century, would deny the impact of race, because they are not allowed to.


30197f  No.11812185

>>11812028

But did you know they had a deep state problem, and it destroyed the republic? 8^) This shall not, of course, be recorded, as they were the ones making the records…


000000  No.11812242

>>11812185

>>11812028

>But did you know they had a deep state problem, and it destroyed the republic? 8^)

So Caesar was one of them – no.

The influence of jews was much bigger in Rome then, than the public is aware, but it was mostly, strongest in the imperial period.

The jews wouldn’t have been able to infiltrate the Roman empire if not for the greed and corruption of the Roman upperclasses. Basically the same as has happened in modern times. They had listen to the snakes forked tongues. It is always the same, ally with an outsider against your kin, get destroyed.

>This shall not, of course, be recorded, as they were the ones making the records…

Strange that the Romans let a jew write the history of the jewish war.


25a405  No.11812271

>>11811520

The racial cucking problem started with (((christian))) infiltration into roman politics. Tacitus wrote how the jews were the ones spreading christianity and described the jews as having dark skin. This explains the missing connection between jews and their favored shitskin race, the nigger. The jews transformed into white as their assimilation into roman society progressed and most people don't think of the remnants of their true heritage, the mizrahi.


b149c3  No.11812350

>>11812271

It happened a lot earlier. Even when the republic fell, there was already a marked degeneration. The Romans of earlier times would not have let it fall to Caesar. the entire reason the Roman Empire came into existence was because the Romans were already getting cucked.


e91c87  No.11812351

>>11812271

This, everyone here should read Roma Contra Judaea ; Judaea Contra Roma. It goes in depth about the spread of christcuckery throughout Rome and the jewish involvement behind it. What also is interesting to note that the religion spread the fastest in its early days in the Levant region and Turkey.


ccf560  No.11812365

Great thread OP.

Ruin a nation's gene pool, ruin the nation.


8a7f80  No.11812367

>>11812351

>Roma Contra Judaea ; Judaea Contra Roma

Does that come in an English translation?


415a5d  No.11812402

File: b4f90e281a7bd1c⋯.jpg (41.61 KB, 379x224, 379:224, abovhighang.jpg)

>>11812365

Society is a racial construct.


000000  No.11812405

>>11812271

>>11811520

>The racial cucking problem started with (((christian))) infiltration into roman politics.

Yeah sure, the jews created the empire, Augustus, the lativundias and slavery.

>>11812351

>>11812271

>This, everyone here should read Roma Contra Judaea ; Judaea Contra Roma. It goes in depth about the spread of christcuckery throughout Rome and the jewish involvement behind it.

There were no Christians when the empire was created, because Jesus was not born yet.


d87472  No.11812569

>>11811961

>i have only heard about the German Goths and Barbarians causing it. gee, i wonder (((who))) could be behind promoting a pro-immigration revisionist history blaming Germans for destroying the Glory of Rome?

>revisionist

Come now, don't you think that's a bit strong? The "northern barbarians felled Rome" line has been around for a long, long time. People latched onto it because it's easy, not because it's exhaustive - one people kicking the hell out of another for the sake of wealth is a story writ large throughout all of human history and much more accessible an answer than "there are between zero and several dozen smoking guns; here, have centuries of scholarship on the topic that you can work through and then form your own opinion". Of course I have no disagreement that this is wrongthink of the highest order but to attribute malice to centuries of historians at the drop of a hat seems asinine to me. Chill out a bit.

>>11812351

>Roma Contra Judaea ; Judaea Contra Roma

Nice find. I had to use jewgle translate but it's readable and fascinating. Someone who speaks Spanish should translate it properly; it seems like it could be quite a significant document,


81e595  No.11812600

>>11812350

Yeah, the Republic started to face many problems we see today for the same reasons. It's an interesting case study.

>>11812271

To blame it on Christians is just retarded considering the timeline. You could argue that was the case because many of the Germanic invaders were Christian, however your argument centers around the degeneracy that gripped the Romans which early Christians used as a warning against decadence.


03a614  No.11812693

>>11811593

The importance of Hellenistic Judaism as an intermediate transition which allowed the Jews to assimilate within the Roman Empire is greatly underestimated, many spoke only Greek and had Greek names.

>Their efforts were probably facilitated by the arrival of a fourth wave of Greek-speaking newcomers to Cilicia/Southern Turkey and Northwestern Syria: Cypriot Jews and 'Cyrenian' (Libyan) Jewish migrants of non-Egyptian North African Jewish origin, as well as gentile Roman settlers from Italy—many of whom already spoke fluent Koine Greek and/or sent their children to Greek schools. Some scholars believe that, at the time, these Cypriot and Cyrenian North African Jewish migrants were generally less affluent than the autochthonous Cilician-Syrian Jews and practiced a more 'liberal' form of Judaism, more propitious for the formation of a new canon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_Judaism


000000  No.11812723

>>11811702

>how much northern immigration came in later, in countless waves, to correct this problem.

What will correct the problem of the nigger europe future?


000000  No.11812726

>>11812271

>>11812351

Jews conquered Rome by spreading slave morality (christianity)


b1113a  No.11812772

>>11811562

One of the Roman names taken by Jews was Agrippa.


2d3de0  No.11812801

Certainly immigration from all over wreaked havoc upon Rome; but I feel that the German influence has been entirely overlooked here. The Germans warriors and later farmers who had no loyalty to Rome but just their generals were another huge factor in the destruction of the Empire. The new people with no connection to the land and little desire other than personal prosperity are much like the immigrants that the West is flooded with today; when they get into political positions, or become policeman, or soldiers; they have no intrinsic loyalty to their nation like a genuine Roman would have. Rome saved themselves due to Christianity creating a unifying force outside of race that allowed for them to continue on in relative stability - as all the people were actually loyal to the new faith it served as a bond that allowed for the people to strive for the 'greater good of Christendom', just as the Latin Romans had striven for the greater good of Rome; and in contrast to the Germans, Syrians and Greeks (both real and otherwise) who were only it for personal or tribal gain.

In our modern world there is no unifying ideology that can unite the Frenchman with the Arab or with the Somali. Those few Leftists who have understood this far might think that Communism could work; but Communists eat their own, they always have, and they still do to this day. The best solution at this point is deportation or removal by other methods. It is possible that a new religion could unite the people, but judging by modern standards and the extremism of most of these immigrants (and the fact that they were purposefully chosen because they were muslims with Christians being left behind); I do not think that will be possible.


000000  No.11812889

>>11812693

>>11811593

>Hellenistic Judaism many spoke only Greek and had Greek names.

What jews don’t want you to know the amount of jewish proselytism at the time. It is not possible to understand the sudden surge in jewish population without converts.

Jews try to peddle the lie of jewish non-proselytism, while there were mass-conversion to judaiusm on several occasions. The jew make proselytes even today, just more discrete, not only influential people like Ivanka, probably a born jew, but even Indios:

How 90 Peruvians became the latest Jewish settlers

When a delegation of rabbis travelled to Lima to convert a group of South American Indians to Judaism, they added just one condition: come and live with us in Israel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/07/israel1

http://archive.fo/QdL7z


25a405  No.11812942

>>11812600

> degeneracy that gripped the Romans which early Christians used as a warning against decadence.

This is purely a myth and stems from christian/jewish hypocrisy. Christian senators during the gradual downfall of rome were the most degenerate of all. Christianity being anti-degeneracy is nothing more than a jewish lie.


62ecd2  No.11813066

>>11811674

During the Gothic wars under Justinian, Italy was almost completely depopulated. Rome went from having more than a million people to something under 20,000. Afterwards the Lombards (a Gothic tribe) immigrated en masse, so it's likely that modern Italians, especially northern ones, descend mostly from 6th century northern tribes. Italians are white.


000000  No.11813159

>>11812942

>>11812600

> degeneracy that gripped the Romans which early Christians used as a warning against decadence.

>This is purely a myth and stems from christian/jewish hypocrisy.

Why don’t you read a history book? It is quite obvious that Rome was decadent, that reflected in its politics. If you don’t trust “modern” historians, how about contemporary ones like Tacitus, not known for his preference of Christianity.


283cb8  No.11813163

File: 0ac7b03fe5a4e95⋯.gif (119.27 KB, 273x270, 91:90, jewishing.gif)

>>11812271

>History shows that Rome collapsed because Romans were more interested in materialism and sexual depravity than raising wholesome families, allowing themselves to be overwhelmed by shitskins.

Jewish response: Shit, the goy know! Quick, blame the religion that rejects materialism and celebrates the family while calling us jews the synagogue of satan!


d1fb1d  No.11813232

File: 6cdd69a068c7771⋯.png (108.16 KB, 1270x1136, 635:568, 1435761532591.png)

File: 991410f6caa5edd⋯.gif (102.11 KB, 113x170, 113:170, 1455501287607.gif)

>>11811610

>import slaves

>get fucked

It's like pottery.


62ecd2  No.11813254

File: 7efe1d5f0d12e84⋯.jpg (5.17 KB, 179x164, 179:164, Silphium.jpg)

>>11811520

This theory would also explain the decline of the traditional Roman Pantheon of Jupiter, Mars, etc. and the rise of the semitic religions, not just Judaism but Mithraism, emperor worship, and various mystery cults. As the people were replaced, so went their religion.

>>11812801

>Rome saved themselves due to Christianity creating a unifying force outside of race

This was really born of necessity, since they had nothing unifying them anyways. The glory of the Rome was a concept that only applied to true blood Romans.

>>11812942

>This is purely a myth and stems from christian/jewish hypocrisy. Christian senators during the gradual downfall of rome were the most degenerate of all.

I don't doubt that, but there were cries against degeneracy during the late republic and early empire. Many of the mystery cults were just glorified orgies, and they pulled in the rich and hedonistic with the promise of anonymous pleasure. The exact same thing happens today i.e Bohemian Grove There was an herb used for birth control that the Romans made extinct due to overuse, pic related. This is likely how the rot started, from the top down. A man has as many masters as he has vices. By indulging in them, the rulers of Rome found themselves being ruled by the (((pushers))) of these vices.


03a614  No.11813260

>>11812889

It was rampant, the extent of Jewish influence pre-dating Christianity is greatly under estimated, they were expelled from Rome in 139 BC for conspiring to introduce the cult of Jove Sabaoth, and were well established even in the Crimea by that point.

>Hypsistarians, i.e. worshippers of the Hypsistos (Greek: Ὕψιστος, the "Most High" God), is a term that appears in documents that date from around 200 BC to around AD 400, referring to various groups mainly in Asia Minor (Cappadocia, Bithynia and Pontus) and the Black Sea coasts that are today part of Russia.

>Some modern scholars identify the group, or groups, with God-fearers, non-Jewish (gentile) sympathizers with Second Temple Judaism.It is possible that the native Cappadocian cult of Zeus Sabazios slowly integrated into the cult of Jahve Sabaoth practiced by the numerous and intellectually predominant Jewish colonies, and that associations of strict monotheists formed, who fraternized with the Jews, but who considered themselves free from the Mosaic Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypsistarians

>Krymchaks are probably partially descended from Jewish refugees who settled along the Black Sea in ancient times. Jewish communities existed in many of the Greek colonies in the region during the late classic period. Recently excavated inscriptions in Crimea have revealed a Jewish presence at least as early as the 1st century BCE. In some Crimean towns, monotheistic pagan cults called sebomenoi theon hypsiston ("Worshippers of the All-Highest God," or "God-Fearers") existed. These quasi-proselytes kept the Jewish commandments but remained uncircumcised and retained certain pagan customs. Eventually, these sects disappeared as their members adopted either Christianity or normative Judaism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krymchaks


25a405  No.11813284

>>11813159

By the time Tacitus was around the judeochristian influence was already taking its toll on Rome. Try harder.

>>11813163

Did you accidentally quote your partner's script but reply to the wrong post? Can't help but point out how you loaded as much into one post but didn't bother to address the topic. Furthermore, the exact quotation where the "synagogue of satan" phrase is uttered explicitly states that description as a warning against fake jews; as in jews that do not follow a jewish religion. This favorite phrase used by shills is used knowing that it itself is invalid. The bible constantly and explicitly urges against jews joining other religions. That's what the context of that excerpt is about. It's a callback to that repeated imperative.


e671a6  No.11813345

File: 3656f55e8e89ddf⋯.jpg (94.87 KB, 800x460, 40:23, 56deb203178e45dd06f5ec2789….jpg)

Archive:

https://archive.org/details/jstor-1835889


44c737  No.11813427

>>11811802

>1. The original Roman people were dissipated by war, foreign service in the military and emigration to their colonies.

Same as the English, in an empire the best get spread too thinly

>2. Their place in Rome and surrounds was taken by the wholesale importation of slaves, the majority of whom had come from the mixed race southeastern reaches of the empire.

Same as mass immigration of lower class non-whites into England

>3. Eventually not even the emperors themselves were of Roman extraction; and as a result, the remaining Roman population became increasingly of mixed racial origin as time progressed.

Nearly there:

1 Already the mayor of london and the fucking HOME SECRATARY are muslim pakis.

2 As time goes on, with relentless race-mixing propaganda everywhere stupid sluts will increasingly father more mutts

It seems like all this happening now is no different than the collapse of rome.

It's quite a cohencidence that there were increasingly more jews in rome in the 3 centuries before it fell, much like cromwell letting them back in to england around 1650s


d33d27  No.11813784

>>11812914

I suppose what I am getting at is: if the military was comprised 100% of Roman citizens, it would be near impossible for any other faction to actually take them down. This is why the Jews want women and muds in our militaries and our police forces. It wouldn't matter how well they did regarding infilitrating our governments if the military could just come along and be like: "So, you're clearly foreign invaders trying to take over our country - and we are the people with the big swords - and now you're dead, and now our people are saved."

I'm not trying to insult Germans or anything but even among whites it is a very bad idea to mix our peoples too much. Look at the problems that the Irish, and to a much lesser degree the Scottish have caused the British. Look at the problems the Catalans have caused the Spanish. Look at the Lombard areas of Italy (Milan/Venneto). To this day, after hundreds and hundreds of years and countless wars; they are more loyal to their own tribe than they are to the nation that they have been a part of. Now it's true that there has been some success with integrating whites in the USA, and it is true that there has been some success in the UK with Huguenots, Normans, Danes and so on; but even then you will find that the historically 'Anglo' areas of the UK are still predominantly Anglo, the predominantly Dane areas are still largely Dane, and places like Wales are near 100% Brythonic. So too with the USA; the old English colonies are still English, the old French areas are still largely French, the old Dutch areas are still Dutch. Even in the success stories it is a lot less successful than it appears.

So even we should keep to our own. Although I do of course advocate friendship and brotherhood among us all, let's just stay in our own homes

>>11813254

>This was really born of necessity, since they had nothing unifying them anyways. The glory of the Rome was a concept that only applied to true blood Romans.

Agreed. It is worth mentioning though because a lot of people seem to blame Christianity for the fall of Rome, where if anything it was a desperate and semi-successful ploy that allowed it to survive. The truth is more important than what we might personally desire to have happened.


283cb8  No.11813903

File: a39015d44a6ac27⋯.jpg (12.76 KB, 407x333, 11:9, huuuuur.jpg)

>>11813284

Oh, I see, so to the christians, who don't follow the laws of judaism at all and call the people who do judaizers, heretics, and unbelievers, only the jews who also don't follow judaism are a problem

So now the only question is, are you a regular mongrel burger brainlet, a nigger brainlet, or a jewish brainlet.


1cb44b  No.11814115

>>11811674

>Italians have a way better government than 99% of West Europe.

Population West Europe = 398 million

Population Italy = 60 million

60 / 398 = 0,15

so it's not 99% but 85% you are welcome.


769efd  No.11814271

>>11812723

Mass repopulation from /pol/and after the inevitable collapse.


56da03  No.11814272

>>11813427

>2 As time goes on, with relentless race-mixing propaganda everywhere stupid sluts will increasingly father more mutts

The number of women who'

d willingly choose to have sex with muslims and niggers without being raped has already plateaued to about 40-something percent. It hasn't budged past fifty since. The real racemixing danger is children getting kidnapped, gangraped, and sold off to die from being fucked to death by muslims and raping every woman possible.


509fee  No.11814274

>>11811623

>>11811577

>>11811629

>>11811649

>>11811669

Oh, look, an angry Jew.


509fee  No.11814295

File: f59217ebdad5009⋯.jpg (251.25 KB, 2288x577, 2288:577, Christian Views of Jews.JPG)

File: 3d93dab1b23e05e⋯.jpg (1.34 MB, 2500x2616, 625:654, Muh Based Poland.jpg)

>>11813903

>Oh, I see, so to the christians, who don't follow the laws of judaism at all

Except they do, entirely. And from there, the rest of your comment is just sort of a ridiculous joke.

>>11814271

Poland is shit m8.


be5bbc  No.11814351

Every single major white civilization has fallen due to non white immigration.


71698e  No.11814362

>>11812726

Let us once again look at the Divide and Conquer technique, which in essence is very simple.

If you were locked up in a dungeon with two powerful brutes, and you yourself were a 97 pound weakling, and all of you were hostile to each other, it would seem that as a comparative inferior your chances of survival would be slim. If, however you were cunning enough to whisper incendiary provocations into the ears of the two brutes, one at a time, about what insults the one had said about the other, and goad them into a life and death fracas, your chances of survival might greatly improve. If you egged them on until they beat each other senseless, then you could easily finish them off separately and without too much effort.

This is exactly what the Jews have been doing to the White goyim for centuries. Divide the dumb brutes up into two hostile camps, incite them to war and let them beat each other senseless. We fell for this ruse in the Civil War, we did it again in World War I, again in World War II, to cite a few major examples, although the list is endless. We can cite the Hundred Years War, or the thirty Years War. No matter which we choose.

White Men killed other White Men and each time the parasite reaped a Jewish harvest in power and monetary gain.


c2b9be  No.11814413

>>11814271

The Polish aren’t reproducing.


06f415  No.11814538

>>11811647

What continues to amaze me is that the Romans, who have annihilated entire tribes and peoples in wars of total war and conquest, who have fought bloody civil wars Roman against Roman, didn't extend this bloodlust for exterminating the foreign hostiles. When even they couldn't bring themselves to do so, what hope do we have?


dcd7fd  No.11814628

>>11814538

Degeneracy. From the beginning the Romans wanted conquests for slaves and plunder. They rarely exterminated anyone because you can't tax or sell a dead person. Emperors who tried to rock the boat in any way were promptly offed in conspiracies by the wealthy aristocracy, if they were lucky enough to first escape the wrath of usurpers or their own soldiers. Rome was a degenerate civilization and doomed to fail for that reason.


dbd1b2  No.11814662

Empires are shit. The only empire that ever did anything useful was Britain spreading its people to the US, Canada, Rhodesia, NZ, etc.

Farm your own land and kill any foreigner who so much as sets foot there.


be982a  No.11814663

File: 61c8519555864f6⋯.jpg (32 KB, 397x436, 397:436, Square Roots.jpg)

>>11813903

“Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets; I came not to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished” (Mt. 5:17-18).


a0dc07  No.11814788

File: f3243edf529e6d7⋯.png (28.37 KB, 600x190, 60:19, IMG_6001.PNG)

>>11814413

http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/298154,Poland-experiencing-baby-boom-report

>According to the paper, the number of babies being born has been steadily growing since October last year, hitting a seven-year high in January.

>The daily adds that the reason for the boom might be the government’s “500+” programme, which provides all families with two or more children with a state handout of PLN 500 (USD 124, EUR 115) a month per child.

You always try so hard, Schlomo.


283cb8  No.11814800

File: e4bd086a5639fe4⋯.jpg (21.98 KB, 433x267, 433:267, fulfill.jpg)

>>11814663

We already established you're a brainlet, you illiterate fucktard. I'm trying to find out what subspecies of nigger you are. I'm going to guess israeli jew at this point, given how desperate you are to hate on Christianity and your astounding lack of basic english literacy.


d0d840  No.11814805

>>11811577

Gyrofag here. You are wrong. It's pretty fucking evident we are genetically inferior to our Northern cousins and Classical era miscegenation is a very good explanation for this.


2f49b9  No.11814897

>>11814272

>Only 40% of white women will miscegenate.

We are saved!


c98b19  No.11814907

>>11811520

This seems like kangz tbph


be982a  No.11814917

File: 0a3566faed7bba5⋯.png (267.43 KB, 925x667, 925:667, ButtBlasted.png)


9d3f3b  No.11814996

File: d14eb62bbf310bc⋯.png (8.56 KB, 183x232, 183:232, download.png)

>>11811674

Lel, Italian in the op text was code for white. What passes for "Italian" niwnis mixed with all that "orient". Most of Italy, Spain, virtually all ofGreece, I would guess over half of france, they need to be pushed across the Mediterranean if not into the oven.

THIS IS THE ULTIMATE GENOCIDE PILL. IF YOU LEAVE OTHER RACES ALIVE ON EARTH YOUR CHILDREN WILL GROW UP AND ENSLAVE THEM OUT OF PETTY DESIRE. THE ONLY TRUE SECURE FUTURE IS AN ALL ARYAN PLANET, WITH THE LINES DRAWN TIGHTLY AROUND THE DEFINITION OF THAT WORD, AND EUGENICS FOREVER PRACTICED TO KEEP THE VIGOR OF THE BLOODLINE ALIVE.


9d3f3b  No.11815012

>>11811702

One drop Giorgio. Next Aryan army to conquer won't make Hitler's mistake and treat you as equals. You want survival then you go and start the fourth Reich. My guess is real Aryans will, and you will beg for scraps at the table. Italy like all other nations will be scoured for pure whites, and cleansed of the rest.


9d3f3b  No.11815016


000000  No.11815118

>>11815012

Stormman Shlomo again


2702e3  No.11815165

>>11812569

Joogle has an English translation of "Roma Contra Judea, Judea Contra Roma", by the pseudonym Europa Soberana:

https://books.google.com/books?id=6c5YDwAAQBAJ&q=contra#v=snippet&q=contra&f=false

This text was included in the censored-by-Amazon anthology of redpill essays "The Fair Race's Darkest Hour", published anonymously by "CT"

CT's blog can be found here:

https://chechar.wordpress.com/

CT reads ike more of a Scholarly Blackpilll Siege NS'er than an Alt-Kike e-celeb who believe The System can even be saved any longer by working from within it to change it.

I only just found CT's blog when looking for a pdf "Roma Contra Judea", and have now spent a few hours reading his blog posts, which have led to discovering several other authors and books which I had never heard about.

In all, any thread that leads me to spend some time discovering new and forbidden authors and books and ideas is the best i can ask for from an image board.

thanks Anon for posting this.


9d3f3b  No.11815291


ac2bdb  No.11815338

>>11814274

I don't think that is a jew…look at it in the ephemeral…it is even more corrupt than a jew…whatever it is has dabbled in true decay, rather than just destruction. It NEEDS to be hunted down and exterminated.


74626a  No.11815458

>>11815012

>When talking to Anglos

<Hey fellow Goyim! Those Italians and Greeks are niggers. Not White like us.

>When talking to Italians

<Hey fellow Goyim! The Eternal Anglo, am I right? The Anglos and Germans are completely cucked. No longer even White. All the real White Germanics died in the war and their women are whores and sluts who racemix with Arabs and niggers. Unlike us Italians who refuse the brown hordes. Let's go fight them. They're not White like us.

>When talking to Germans

<Hello Fellow Aryans! Slavs are subhuman niggers. Lets exterminate them and replace them with good German stock. They're not White like us.

>When talking to Slavs

>Hello fellow Aryans! We're the true Aryans. Real White men defend our borders. Unlike the Germans and French. They're practically niggers at this point. Let's just exterminate them and rule Europe ourselves. They're not White like us.


cd750e  No.11815516

>>11814295

Who programmed this shitty robot? The first image it posted clearly says that judaizers try to force Christians to keep mosaic law against the teachings of the new covenant, and the second pic is of poland.


8a7f80  No.11815918

>>11815165

>This text was included in the censored-by-Amazon anthology of redpill essays "The Fair Race's Darkest Hour", published anonymously by "CT"

To make sure I'm understanding correctly, so all this in its entirety is in The Fair Race's Darkest Hour? Or, by "censored-by-Amazon", are there portions missing? How do you mean censored?


62851c  No.11816388

>>11811520

It started with the 2nd Punic Wars when droves of Roman Republican Citizen soldiers were slaughtered and the rest robbed through bankruptcy of their lands, meaning slaves worked the fields which were owned by the Senatorial Oligarchy. And the Gracchi Brothers were too cowardly to lead open and armed revolt to exterminate the Senate and give the land back to the Citizen.

Thats where it started.


62851c  No.11816408

>>11811610

Its almost as if the Roman ruling class salivated over the opportunity to free up so much land for their slaves estates.


62851c  No.11816439

>>11811674

Ah yes, Operation Barbarossa, the greatest mass slaughter of fair hair and fair eyed people ever set forth, all while leaving the Med and noeth africa vulnerable, .

Hitler could have moved to secure Gibraltar and persuaded Stalin to invade Turkey.

And through such tactics, evicted the British from the Suez and the Straits of Hercules, securing the Med as a German lake.


62851c  No.11816460

>>11811702

Some of the Northern Italians. Southern Italians and Sicilians are fucking shitskins.


62851c  No.11816481

>>11811891

The Berbers werent fully shitskins at the time.


62851c  No.11816519

>>11812726

By the time of Christ, Rome was already doomed.


62851c  No.11816525

>>11812801

Germans were more loyal to the empire and the emperors than the actual "Romans". In the West's dying days, German Federates were the Roman military.


f50897  No.11816569

>>11811674

you meds are great and all but you're the most mongrelised races of the planet


2bfcea  No.11817031

>>11816439

>persuade Stalin to invade Turkey

>Turkey being among the reasons he decided to launch Barbarossa in the first place

Lurk more.


1e9c40  No.11817388

>>11811702

This whole ordeal just solidifies my idea that the Germans weren't the cause of collapse with the western Roman Empire, but were attempting to save it. The later Roman Empire had become a cesspool of different races. The Germans, many as Roman citizens, correctly saw the Empire collapsing and wished to salvage it with the only way they knew, by invading and destroying the shitskins. Late Rome was the America of the 5th century. I would think that the founding stock actually welcomed the Germans, while the corrupt and multiracial bureaucracy are the ones that hated it, hence the one sides historical record.


aaf512  No.11817406

File: b0dbe4d84bf14ff⋯.jpg (138.09 KB, 1126x1200, 563:600, NATO sodomy religion.jpg)

File: 93cde6d44023406⋯.jpg (10.53 KB, 231x218, 231:218, Halliburton leftist corpor….jpg)

File: f6a77212ae6876f⋯.jpg (79.93 KB, 750x910, 75:91, Dge-8uWVQAABUHJ-01.jpg)

File: e6e1468d04249e1⋯.png (299.88 KB, 480x297, 160:99, Rainbow LGBT-Church-Flags-….png)

>>11816519

>>11812726

>By the time of Christ, Rome was already doomed.

I always wondered how could Christianity replace the Roman pagan religion so fast and with such unstoppable force, how Christians went from being outlawed to being the ruling elites in Rome and Constantinople. I no longer wonder after witnessing live how the worship of poopdick/sodomy/trannies is replacing Christianity in the west in just a decade.


000000  No.11817618

>>11816525

>>11812801

>Germans were more loyal to the empire and the emperors than the actual "Romans".

That was Romes actual problem the "Romans", that were no Romans. They made everyone under Romes rule "Romans", debasing Rome and devaluing Roman citizenship.

Initially Rome was very strict in granting citizenship. After Romes upper class had no need for the ordinary Romans, didn’t value them anymore, they started to hand out Roman citizenship like candy. Paulus/Saulus a jew of quite extremist religious views for all of his life, was a Roman citizen.

That fine Lebanese merchant is a more upstanding and productive citizen, than you Apalach Apennine bum.

Finally Caracalla made in 212 everyone under Roman rule citizen. That was some 150-200 years before Rome collapsed.


e1168f  No.11817663

>>11811577

>impotent butthurt


000000  No.11817891

>As I conceive of it, culture is essentially a social thing:

it is born of intercourse and it needs a conscious solidarity of interest in order to sustain it.

https://archive.org/details/Baynes1943DeclineRomanWEurope

>>11657200

>The Scientific Council for Government Policy released a scientific report this week, which shows that ethnic diversity negatively impacts social cohesion.

>Our analysis shows that, when a neighbourhood becomes more diverse, it becomes less socially cohesive. This result is significant. Social-economic factors have been taken into account.

One thing, one has to consider is, that the difference cultural, sociological cultural and probably intellectual, in IQ, between the Romans and their slaves wasn’t that big.

Romans had nearly no negro slaves and the people from the eastern provinces had a similar cultural standard, eventually higher, than the Romans. Many slaves of the Romans were teacher, Graeculis.

So maintaining the Roman civilization should have been no problem, from a pure technical point of view.

We in contrast do import millions of people with significant lower intellectual capabilities, IQ numbers 10 point (Orientals) or 20 point lower (Negros) than Europeans. The state of their home lands is indicative of what we are importing, how they will transform Europe if they will stay.

Was there in ancient times, between people of roughly similar intellectual standard, a distinct lack of conscious solidarity, so is there today, contrarian, hostile cultures, no amount of forced interbreeding and race mixing is going to erase. What it is going to erase is the intellectual capabilities for maintaining such a civilization.

That, invasion and forced interbreeding, rape, forcing upon a primitive intellectual stifling ideology, has already happened in the former eastern provinces of the Roman empire. It never recovered from the fall of the empire. It has since then contributed not one bit to further humanity. It would look much worse than it already does if not for the west giving them material and intellectual input.


c720a8  No.11818621

>>11814996

THIS

Thank God someone has the balls to say it.


44e9d4  No.11818707

Those with beady black eyes and pure black hair are more prone to violence and aggression. Its also a tell tail sign of the kike or moore. We all notice it but many are too afraid to even push differences that far.

I want an ethonostate for those with hair colors lighter than black and with blue/green/amber eyes only.

Sicilians are arabs


d1efc7  No.11818819

>>11817388

>digits

Germanic invaders tried to keep Roman institutions going but didn't have the existing infrastructure or know-how to follow through. The depopulation was a complete clusterfuck.

Goths were foreign but they had some important similarities to Romans both sides were Christian which helped a lot but I don't want to turn this into a shitflinging match so I'm spoilering the "C-word" due to triggers. It's not like they appeared out of nowhere. Goths fought alongside Romans for a long time.

This doesn't change the fact that the Goths did invade and sack everything though.


508fe7  No.11819440

File: 8efedfc30fb8e5c⋯.png (219.94 KB, 573x642, 191:214, thinking ss skull.png)

>>11812801

>Rome saved themselves due to Christianity creating a unifying force outside of race that allowed for them to continue on in relative stability

it's almost as if Christianity is a civcuck globalist ideology designed to get people to abandon loyalty to race or nation and dissolve themselves in the melting pot of universalism.

really gets the noggin joggin.


000000  No.11819497

>>11819440

>>11812801

>Rome saved themselves due to Christianity creating a unifying force outside of race that allowed for them to continue on

>it's almost as if Christianity is a civcuck globalist ideology designed to get people to abandon loyalty to race or nation and dissolve themselves in the melting pot of universalism.

Yeah that is relevant for an empire that has no nation and race.


5677c0  No.11819547

>>11814805

you may be a shitskin but I'm not

t. gyro


932179  No.11819605

>>11811520

Racemixing caused the decline and collapse of ancient Egypt as well. Just look at how browned and shitskinned modern Egypt is compared to the tiny minority of Coptic people who are direct descendants of ancient Egyptians. Look at ancient India too. They were always depicted with light skin. Now they look like monkeys from mixing with aboriginals and shit in the fucking street.


8651a7  No.11820103

You are asking for a translation of Roma contra Judea; Judea contra Roma. It's here:

https://chechar.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/judea-vs-rome.pdf


dcc3d9  No.11823028

File: 926ff64580d7a89⋯.png (3.6 MB, 1917x1563, 639:521, Roman_Empire_125.png)


000000  No.11824609

>>11814115

>Italy

>West Europe


3aff29  No.11831863

bump


cd9059  No.11832263

how much of this mixture can be seen today?

where are the genetic infographs?

why has no one posted a single one?


932179  No.11832436

>>11832263

Southern Italy is basically Arabia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrone


6620ed  No.11857057

File: f1c194bed1fb517⋯.jpg (365.2 KB, 1280x1682, 640:841, ca519e610a58645d184dcbd066….jpg)

>>11813232

Funny you post this because Jesus and Yahwey replaced Odin and Thor in Germanic culture after the northern unholy crusades.


000000  No.11857081

Anyone have that Roman diary about a man's "disastrous" "generational" observations regarding the inferior miscegenation products created with Saracens?


63db6d  No.11857115

>>11857081

Bump for this /r/ if it exists.


63db6d  No.11857128

>>11819547

Δεν χρειάζεται να'μαι γιουφτάκι για να συνειδητοποιήσω τη γενετική ανωτερότητα των Σκανδιναβών.


02397d  No.11859373

friendly reminder that original Romans were a bunch of mobsters that got very very good at defending themselves, and starting bullying around, but very pragmatically. They lost their pragmatism with the bounties and outside influences. Race is a secondary problem, citizenship played a role, getting pozzed by lead played a role, the destiny of any empire having to deal with finite resources played a role, not keeping invading oppa Alexander style played a role, christianity played a role even if some guys (veith) say that it was the fall of the roman empire that gave christianity the win over pagans.

But before calling /pol/ wrong, which never happens: even today RACE itself is not the problem, citizenship is.


efdd04  No.11859446

>>11857057

>>11857057

>Funny you post this because Jesus and Yahwey replaced Odin and Thor in Germanic culture after the northern unholy crusades.

Leider falsch.


f60cba  No.11862064

>>11816460

>Sicilians are fucking shitskins.

this

jews and muslims make up a large part of the genetics of sicily


27fd26  No.11862193

>>11814788

Almost all of my older friends already have at least one child, but most of them have two.

I'm planning at least 2, maybe 3.

Check'd


148a22  No.11862363

>>11811988

Bingo. The hubris is overwhelming as described in this CNBC article. File under 'Ozymandius Wanna-bees'. Self-preservation smugness….

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/survival-of-the-richest-the-wealthy-are-plotting-to-leave-us-behind.html


e3b0aa  No.11862374

>>11813903

Christianity is judaism for the goyim you stupid American cattle.


148a22  No.11862395

>>11813260

Religious proselytism was not uncommon in Antiquity. Whether the Assyrians, the Greeks, or the Samaritans.


50404e  No.11862446

>>11862374

Sure it is, which is why your tribe has been in a fervor trying to destroy it, thanks for admitting you see non jews as cattle though


000000  No.11862449

>>11811520

It is refreshing to see a quality post on this board today. Rest eeasy OP, for at this time you are not a faggot.


32037a  No.11862454

>>11862446

>jews trying to destroy it

Sure thing, that's why Christianity supports everything the jews want. Whether Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical or what have you. Please tell me which very specific branch of Christianity you adhere to and which very specific congregation you belong to.


e3b0aa  No.11862456

>>11862446

>a 2000 year old jewish subversion is no longer up to date with modern jewish subversion which is why jews dislike it and that must mean it's totally based and fashy

Can't you Amertard alt-kike shitheads please stick to your forum bathhouses please, arguing with you is so tiresome.


bdd4e3  No.11862568

>>11812402

Good line anon, I'll start using it


bdd4e3  No.11862577

File: c08f9e18bc22aba⋯.png (36.81 KB, 350x365, 70:73, Haak_et_al_Fig_3_small.png)

>>11815012

Better kys too then, North and South euros are the same stock


451031  No.11862603

File: 89c1bd72438d7bb⋯.jpg (23.38 KB, 484x458, 242:229, 89c1bd72438d7bb0853031c100….jpg)

>>11811702

Too bad they aren't you moronic fetishist cuckold. Go worship your brown skinned pets somewhere else.


2dcc36  No.11862676

>>11814538

They were greedy for luxuries and imported too many serviles and slaves. Essentially they drown in their own greed.


79a5c9  No.11862723

>>11811562

They were Greek names because they were a bunch of fucking shitskin faggot christians. Obviously nothing has changed, as most of them are nonwhite even now.


79a5c9  No.11862725

>>11862456

Easy you nigger. I am a burger and get it. Don't lump us in with those faggots. At least we have things like nationwide Odinic networks, which is probably better than your shithole country. :^)


0aa063  No.11862739

File: ee225708f56bbb9⋯.jpg (25.53 KB, 355x293, 355:293, Damn normies.jpg)

What's with all this D&C? It's been proven time and time again that southern Europeans are of the same stock as they've always been, with admixture rates being laughably low. It's either shills, trolls, or uninformed shitposters.


2dcc36  No.11862745

File: 189a54e2b9fac3e⋯.png (543.65 KB, 1378x642, 689:321, PersianMuslimZanjAfrican.png)


e3b0aa  No.11862807

>>11862725

>Odinic networks

Pfffff cringe. It's funny how you Walmart shoppers can't help but see everything through duality glasses, like when someone isn't a judeo-crosscuck he has to be a Thor LARPer. The old gods are dead son. A new religion will arise organically over time.


041207  No.11863117

File: ec16e33d3888933⋯.png (73.56 KB, 559x794, 559:794, ec16e33d3888933aeea5081d6e….png)

File: b2a44057380aa0b⋯.jpg (169.09 KB, 610x363, 610:363, b2a44057380aa0bc26fdc36068….jpg)

>>11811674

I'm not so sure about some Sicilians…but there isn't a European nation that doesn't have such a problem at this point. God Bless Salvini! Viva Italica!

That said, history over the past few hundred years has not shown Italy to be capable of the same political administrative efficiency typical of Romans or Germans. It is that 'efficiency' coupled with extreme military persistence in the face of failure which has lead to most of the great aryan empires.

This is the theme of aryan egypt, india, persia, the hellas and indeed the mythos of most non-white natives, especially those in the new world. Each of those empires was founded by a relatively small nobility who transformed the locals from barbarous rabble to an empire. Those facts demand a study of demographics


eace22  No.11863126

>>11811520

So from what I am getting at here, we are simply repeating the same old mistakes but on the larger scale?


7aefdb  No.11863133

>>11863126

You mean jews are using propaganda to lead us into committing the same mistakes.


eace22  No.11863205

>>11862739

They still don't realize it doesn't work here.


eace22  No.11863208


5ba8a5  No.11863488

This is yet more evidence that shows we need globalism and a one world race. That is, global conquest and the removal of everyone unlike us and a totally homogeneous world. It's the only way we can truly advance and prosper.


5ba8a5  No.11863501

>>11862807

Not necessarily. Spiritualism arises mostly from a lack of understanding. With science around to explain things, thee isn't exactly much room for gods. However, that's irrelevant. Nationalism needs to fill the void, not religion. We need loyalty and dedication to our people at the forefront, not loyalty and dedication to a god.


971e96  No.11863526

>>11863501

>loyalty to our people; loyalty to god

It’s the same thing. Our god(s) are carried in our culture. They are our archetypes; as such inseparable. This is why the kikes had to modify judaism beyond recognition to dominate Ethnic European thought.


e3b0aa  No.11863624

>>11863501

I've recognized a long time ago that you Americans are completely dead inside (probably a side effect of severing your roots when leaving the motherland) but you still manage to drop my jaw on a regular basis by the magnitude of the subhumanity you keep displaying. You might as well just go to the nearest McDonalds with a couple thousand of your (((dollars))) and eat until your heart stops as well.


5ba8a5  No.11863638

>>11863624

>D&C shill is D&C shill

Filtered for low-IQ D&C shilling.


5ba8a5  No.11863641

>>11863526

>They are our archetypes

Some, in a sense, but completely irrelevant to modern life. How do you suppose people are going to start believing in gods of war and thunder and shit again? Not happening.


e3b0aa  No.11863646

>>11863638

>muh D and C

Go ask your mommy for some dry panties you whiny pussy.


0bb994  No.11865313

>>11863117

This. The issue with Greeks was a bit different due to the native non-Hellenic population being somewhat whiteish that allowed them to make blooming city states and have global influence; nevertheless Hesiod still notices a gradual degradation of merit and morality over the generations but failed to recognize increasing miscegenation and dilution of proto-hellenic genealogies as the primary cause.


0bb994  No.11865336

>>11863646

You realize we have IDs, right?

>>11862374

>argues against Christianity

>>11862807

>argues against Paganism

>>11863624

>argues against atheism

>not DnC


0bb994  No.11865337

>>11863641

Materialism is the death of the spirit, even if "spirit" is just a metaphore.


607838  No.11865704

>>11863638

Cry more you butthurt faggot.

If my position is too hard for you take, why don't you leave and go watch some Teletubbies or something. Cuckling.

I'm not against heathenism per se but most of what I see is not authentic, it doesn't come from the soul. These people are literally LARPing. I am against Judeo-Christianty though. And atheism, that's even lower.


dc6cfd  No.11872076

>>11812801

Deport yourself to Jerusalem, faggot.


6697cc  No.11872676

With what the MSM comes up with these days it's surprising the masses don't wonder how whites are in Europe at all.l. Apparently everyone in Europe was a nigger to begin with now.


79a5c9  No.11875616

>>11813163

Christ insanity was the religion of the foreign slaves that helped the kikes destroy Rome, you utter retard. That post is your brain on wordism.


79a5c9  No.11875620

>>11862807

I missed this verbal vomit on my first pass. Get the fuck off my board, you shill nigger.


000000  No.11897678

>>11875616

>>11813163

utter retard is an appropriate description of you, writing such substanceless drivel at the end of this thread.


ee855d  No.11897893

>>11814538

Money. Simple greed. They wanted slaves and serfs for their estates and farms. House these slaves in the cities for ease of access. As long as we continue with the moneyed idea, we are doomed


000000  No.11898343

>>11815012

ARYANS ARE ANCIENT PERSIANS

You uneducated mong.


16e974  No.11899218

>>11811674

Well, you can be pretty sure that cities back then had high mortality rates while they were replenished by the countryside or foreign trade with new people.

Deseases in the cities and cosmopolitcan living dont make for much progenity back then, once the infrastructure was destroyed by barbarians italic farmers from the countryside probably made more children then the dying citydwellers again.


000000  No.11925759

bump


000000  No.11949993

This did it, cuckflare jews


ab8f44  No.11950009

>>11898343

disgusting


109883  No.11950066

File: 5452b0c7df92089⋯.png (477.24 KB, 800x533, 800:533, 1242345475893268467967.png)

>>11814538

They were limited by technology. Foreign hostiles were simply out of their reach. If you look at the Roman Empire in it peak, it is just equal time travel to Rome map. Conquering land outside these lines was pure economic loss and unsustainable with their technology and political model of centralized empire.


2bfcea  No.11950079

>>11818819

That was hardly a sack. Took some money and some slaves, but let the population live and didn't burn the city.


f40e70  No.11950109

>>11811674

I have moved from south of France to Italy in the support of my Mediterranean brothers, helping the activist movements as much as I can, always showing up at all the demonstrations I can. When Italy is healed I will pursue the fight in my home country and I have no doubt that Italy will help us reclaim our land, and we can finally be a strong alliance again.


b841d1  No.11950282

>>11812271

It’s funny to see the anti-christians shills circlejerk and spread their misinformation. It started before the christianisation, in fact, if you want to blame it on the current religion at that moment, it’s the pagans fault.


2bfcea  No.11950298

>>11950282

And this is an argument in favor of Christianity how? They both failed.


b841d1  No.11950303

>>11817406

Replace Christianity with “white people”, and roman pagans with “previous generations of white people”, the same logic applies. Every single group of people in the west will have blue pilled members.


b841d1  No.11950309

>>11950298

Read again, he blames it all on christianity, but the truth is, if you want to blame it on religions, it’s both the christians and the pagans fault. That shill is just using D&C tactics.


000000  No.11973839

>>11950066

>>11814538

>Foreign hostiles were simply out of their reach. Conquering land outside these lines was pure economic loss and unsustainable

Interesting graphic.

Contrary to your assertion were the borders of the empire not at equal travel time.

Local resistance had for sure some influence.

BTW travel times in Italy were quite uneven, doesn’t speak well for Romes famed road network.


8e66e1  No.11974115

>>11973839

If you are thinking about the graphic it is because they are not quickly reachable by sea.


000000  No.11995863

bump


9fd957  No.11995908

Glad to see a thread on this after reading about it in TFRDH.


7f3eaf  No.11995919

>>11811865

>first pic

It's well known that he was the first emperor born in modern day Syria and not Italy. Doesn't really help prove your point.


54690d  No.11995920

File: 9162f183b7646ad⋯.jpg (208.42 KB, 533x800, 533:800, From-Slave-to-Emperor-Famo….jpg)

>>11811520

I'll recommend this book, which goes into details also on cemetery name records which illustrates the racial bastardization.

From Slave to Emperor: Famous Historians on the Racial Reasons for the Decline of the Roman Empire

>Including the work of Professors Tenney Frank, A.M. Duff, Charles Merivale, George La Piana, Theodor Mommsen, and the multiple authors of the Cambridge Ancient History and the Encyclopedia Britannica’s Historians’ History of the World. Introduction by Arthur Kemp, BA (Pub.Ad., Pol., Sci., Int. Pol.).

>Although many historians have either ignored the racial factor in the cause of the fall of the Roman Empire, there have been many who recognized race as the critical element in Rome’s history.


54690d  No.11995926

File: 98824bfec4cd78d⋯.pdf (1.54 MB, Race Mixture in the Roman ….pdf)

File: 0c3a8c8b78a985f⋯.jpg (280.67 KB, 1907x741, 1907:741, Pigmentation of early Roma….jpg)


54690d  No.11995935

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Physical Appearance of Early Roman Emperors


54690d  No.11995936

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


3f5113  No.11995965

File: 146dcac6d4df58a⋯.jpg (50.31 KB, 469x395, 469:395, civilization_leaves.jpg)


c98c88  No.11995978

>>11862577

>"North and South euros are the same stock"

>posts graph that clearly demonstrates northerners clustering on the top with higher degrees of Yamna/Indo-European DNA versus southerners clustering on the bottom with markedly less

There's a gradient/spectrum, but if you look at the big picture you're disproving your own point


df0e02  No.11996005

>>11811674

So tough you were bred by Arabs until you assumed an Arab phenotype. Based.


547b0e  No.11996023

>>11950066

BUT they didn't build canals yet. If they'd build some canals and fixed Gotthard, they could have build a true European Reich.


c98c88  No.11996052

>>11973839

>BTW travel times in Italy were quite uneven, doesn’t speak well for Romes famed road network.

Hey Torpedo retard, it's almost like the geography of the Italian peninsula is uneven and that is reflected in the travel time map.

Rome lies on the western coast of the Italian peninsula, and a mountain range runs down the central 'spine' of the peninsula which restricts movement. This means Romans have an easier time moving along the coast of the Tyrrhenian Sea than the coast of the Adriatic. Your thesis could only work if Italy was geographically uniform, which it is not, nor is anywhere else on this earth.


668845  No.11998542

>>11819440

>Christianity is to blame

Except it isn't. The 12 tribes called Israel [Acts:26 6-7] were of white genetic stock harkening back to Adam. Christ came for his people and the apostles specifically sought out the 12 tribes to inform them. [James 1] The OT/NT is only for whites and admonishes race mixing throughout, starting with opposition against race mixing with the genetic family tree of knowledge of good and evil. Later, Esau race mixed with Cannanites [Gen:36] whom spawned Edomites that subverted Judea in 200BC [Strabo, Geography 16.2.34] and later [Rom: 9:1-13, Antiquities 13:254-258, 395-397] became known as jews.

(((Universalism))) was introduced by rabbis when they were consulted by White bishops to read the original Hebraic scrolls, but needed groundwork laid by Jesuits in the 14th century, then the inherent division from Protestantism (which was justified per based Luther), and the (((Church of England))) so British impersialism had a plausible cover story.

>inb4 hurr durr no it isn't my word is truth no evidence cited

Shills dont read citations, but plebs will. They are whom the citations are for, not you.

tl;dr the jews did this. every. fucking. time.


668845  No.11998832

>>11811988

Checkin those Hitler dubs.

Human nature repeats. Progress is regress.

White Nocuck Now


697201  No.12011256

buno


8f51f4  No.12011326

>>11998542

How do I gain more knowledge like you?


000000  No.12033014

>>11996052

>>11973839

>Hey Torpedo retard, it's almost like the geography of the Italian peninsula is uneven and that is reflected in the travel time map.

>Rome lies on the western coast of the Italian peninsula, and a mountain range runs down the central 'spine' of the peninsula which restricts movement. This means Romans have an easier time moving along the coast of the Tyrrhenian Sea than the coast of the Adriatic.

According to the map, travel time to Carthage was shorter than to Milan.

Pretty shit road network if true.


d5e08b  No.12033031

>>11814996

So the ethnoglobe anon hates Italians too huh? fucking wew


10ef4f  No.12060181

Rome caused its own collapse, only degenerate romaboos claim otherwise.


3d1bbb  No.12060237

File: ab1f549da4b856d⋯.jpg (10.79 KB, 300x300, 1:1, cesare.jpg)

>>12060181

>not being a romaboo

it's like saying you prefer to live for mcdonalds, nigger cocks and (((interests))) payments rather than virtue, honor and glory, burgerman


c7257a  No.12060260

>>11811520

Daily reminder the Third Reich was well aware of how Rome fell. Read the Myth of the 20th century.


f40e70  No.12060304

kill niggers


f40e70  No.12060339

>>11811721

(((BLACKED))) history


a67474  No.12060342

>>12060325

>sit your ass down child.


fbad98  No.12060358

>>12060237

Every civilization causes its own collapse. How Roman society operated (allowing citizenship to conquered tribes/nations) made this obvious. Then there's Cicero who divorced the martial aspect from Roman virtus.


a67474  No.12060364

Rome started to collapse the day Caesar was stabbed in the back. Caesar was the peak of Roman power.


fbad98  No.12060374

>>11811988

For America, besides the Clintons and Bushes, who are the aristocratic (not new money) families? McCain? Are there any major Jeffersons and Washingtons? Jacksons?


a67474  No.12060382

> doesn’t know the royal bloodlines still run everything. probably wears their clothing brands as well


c7257a  No.12060389

>>12060382

>doesn’t know the royal bloodlines still run everything. probably wears their clothing brands as well

Royal bloodlines like the Romanov? Like the Plantagenet?

Faggot, most "royal" bloodlines these days are victims of miscegenation or outright jews pretending to be European.


a67474  No.12060392

>>12060389

>calls a royal a nigger

>Assumes he knows more than said royal about the families


c7257a  No.12060404

File: 50b7f80b6fea47e⋯.jpg (111.03 KB, 634x582, 317:291, a nice king.jpg)

>>12060392

What the fuck are you talking about, nigger.


a67474  No.12060412

>>12060404

>calls me nigger again, wishing he was a Romanov and not some dirty shitskin kike


c7257a  No.12060424

File: 4ee562f8d674960⋯.jpg (253.88 KB, 2047x1152, 2047:1152, Ahnenerbe cover.jpg)

>>12060412

>larping as some bastard offshoot several generations away from being directly related to a family claiming to be "royal"

We both know you won't post proof, nigger faggot. You'd have to be an absolute retard to do it. Since you can't prove it, there's no point making the claim. The fact you didn't realize that, shows you fell short on the genetic ladder of excellence. You project like a kike. I didn't call you a nigger, until you claimed I called you a nigger, so you appear to have a problem with being called a nigger, you fucking nigger.

You made a stupid claim, saying royal families still run things, I countered with the fact that the current "royal" bloodlines aren't "royal" at all, but a product of miscegenation, which is verifiable. Even now you have the jew tainted Windsors racemixing. The old bloodlines were supplanted, mostly by Jews.


fad7de  No.12060454

File: d08c8f9b78896d0⋯.jpg (134.45 KB, 1280x586, 640:293, IMG_20180727_212236_420.jpg)

File: 5327995e8ac1362⋯.png (17.86 KB, 532x418, 14:11, italy-gdp.png)

>>11814996

>goys let's start another thousand of brother wars because no one is good enough

Fuck off with your D&C, Mordecai. The only thing Italy needs is eugenics in the south. It's not always about muh based blonde hair people.


a3eb39  No.12060538

So what happened to the niggers after Rome fell? Where they all just killed off by Germans?


94c0e8  No.12060902

>>11814362

imagine that the jew convinces one of the brutes to adopt an ideology that calls for the extinction of all brutes including himself, and said brute will stop at nothing to enact this conclusion. what should the other brute do? he cannot reason with the self-destructive one.

metaphors are pretty but they must have accurate connection to reality. what exactly did the germans "fall for" in ww2?


9a7948  No.12091998

>>11811520

The crusades tried to help - but it wasn't enough.


950217  No.12092165

File: 167032541f383f4⋯.jpg (2.42 MB, 1500x2600, 15:26, Romulii5673744.jpg)

File: 13602560a61889a⋯.jpg (65.45 KB, 850x423, 850:423, hercules-2b5437.jpg)

yes the romans disappeared. wonder where they all went. because there's no trace left obviously


377b93  No.12092243

>>11811520

>he found that huge numbers of late Roman Republic inhabitants had names which originated in the (((Levant,)) or Middle East, in strong contrast to the early inhabitants of Rome, who had Latin names.

Jews bought the nationhood, others went through the army and got in (only men, too).


62763c  No.12092287

>>12092165

Except ancient Greeks and Romans were Nordic, Homer describes Achilles as blonde, Menelaus as red-headed, Poseidon as black-haired. In one of his poems, Theognis mentions the Athenian peasantry as blonde.


513656  No.12092330

>>12092287

>implying

Just desist with this historical WE WUZ revisionism.


d2e6e9  No.12092335

>>12092330

neck yourself, being olive skinend doesnt imply niggers and yes the greeks where blondes, red-headed and blue-eyed as any other northern european back then much to your dismay.


513656  No.12092341

>>12092335

I didn't say Mediterraneans are niggers, just that they weren't Nordics straight outta Norway. You're the one promoting this false dichotomy.


bfa759  No.12092352

>>12092165

Absolutely cherrpicking in that image with mainly some swarthy "Italian-Americans".. How will you spin to your narrative the physical descriptions of emperors from records? -> >>11995926

Interesting how many of those sculptures are low quality compared to the standards of the early times. Just speculation but there goes.


5b3110  No.12092360

File: ae22fa5fb883b2a⋯.gif (1.75 MB, 300x227, 300:227, ae22fa5fb883b2a166843e85ac….gif)

>>11811721

>>11811721

If only niggers knew that what they brag about is the (((decline))) of every society. Truly there is a hidden black history…


d2e6e9  No.12092363

>>12092341

It's not false, why do you seek to imply they where all black haired and brown eyed? Compared to their nordic counterparts obviously less so, but to imply or believe that they did not exist is just stupid.


e7c9fb  No.12092374

>>11812028

People don't understand that the glory of rome was gone by Caesar's day and that Caesar himself was a degenerate.

The Empire itself was a symptom of decay. The Republic was peak Roman civilization, and those who tried to save it failed.


d2e6e9  No.12092387

>>12092374

-Too many non-romans in the legions serving, getting paid and becoming citizens

-Slaves also outnumbering actual roman citizens by the dozens

The sacking of rome saved it.


bfa759  No.12092397

>>11995908

>after reading about it in TFRDH

What is that?


3d2a18  No.12092406

It was the mud hut dwelling Germanic snowniggers invaders that destroyed Rome.


bb1957  No.12092410

File: e8522c04ccc4d65⋯.jpg (147.7 KB, 890x890, 1:1, 1379203284585.jpg)

>>11815012

>pic related


513656  No.12092431

>>12092363

Yes, of course the Mediterraneans would share features in common with Nordics, but not because one is the descendant of the other - instead it was because they share a great deal of common ancestry.

Remember that the three peoples that immigrated to Europe to make it what it is today - the first hunter-gatherers, the farmers, and the Indo-Europeans. Most modern Europeans are descendants of the Aryans, but not all.


bfa759  No.12092434

File: abd1b62637036b1⋯.webm (12.25 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Physical Appearance of Ea….webm)

<Physical Appearance of Early Roman Emperors (Hair and Eye Color)


5b3110  No.12092508

>>12092406

Back to reddit with you


e7c9fb  No.12092907

>>12092431

Indo-Europeans isn't that correct of a name, easier to refer to them as horse nomads/pastoralists.

First group was the cro-magnon hunter gatherers who mostly destroyed the indigenous neanderthal population, though some of their genetic stock was assimilated into their population. Then the first farmers who were from Anatolia, then the Horseback pastoralists who originated in modern Ukraine or Anatolia. Genetic and material records show that there was not much conflict between these groups because they occupied different economic niches, there was a lot of intermarriage which created a shared genepool between them until the groups gradually became more sedentary and geographically distinct as farming became the dominant lifestyle in most of Europe as the population grew, the climate grew warmer and the conditions became more suitable for it.

We also should note that on the fringes of Europe, there was interaction with semitic peoples very early in history, particularly in Greece. Herodotus, the first Western historian, pointed out several customs that the Greeks had adopted from Egyptians and Phoenicians, who he said were darker skinned than Greeks but lighter than Ethiopians. Many Phoenicians actually settled and became naturalized in Greek society including the famous philosopher Thales, who Aristotle noted was known to be of Levantine stock.

Rome itself was no stranger to migrants, in its earliest days as a kingdom it served as something of a free port for the outcasts and rogues of the ancient Mediterranean world. Jews, Phoenicians and Greeks all settled in the city from its earliest days, however this was before the time of the empire and before the dole, these migrants were all required to be skilled and provide services to the kingdom and its citizens both in war and peace. Later migrants were mostly eager to receive free grain, free water, and free admission to the games. Most of these asiatic bugmen were exterminated by the Lombards, fortunately, so the Italians, particularly North Italians, are of a racial stock not significantly different from the rest of Europe at large. Southern Italy was subject to Arab raids but was eventually conquered by the Normans who expelled large numbers of the Muslims living in Sicily.


9f78ec  No.12094406

File: 58c7d780ac319cd⋯.jpg (50.17 KB, 598x344, 299:172, 32d.jpg)

You are now aware why Jews promote Immigration from non-white areas and Race-mixing so fervently; it is to bring down the host nation, so that they may rule.

Rome fell, and so will all of the West unless (you) stop it. History repeats itself.


bc1b3a  No.12095854

we wuz romanz n shiet


997e1f  No.12095897

>>12092434

Saved. Brought tears to my eyes.

We can win this war, we just need to group up.


f8e119  No.12097927

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12092434

Source video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VToZ551CaxA


417df8  No.12104041

>>12033014

Travelling by sailing ship is far faster than traveling by foot or ox cart. It is also far less exhausting.


0a19e2  No.12105526

>>12092363

> why do you seek to imply they where all black haired and brown eyed?

Where the fuck did you derive that from? Nearly half of modern Greeks are hazel-eyed.


84e2ce  No.12105536

>>11998542

> The 12 tribes called Israel [Acts:26 6-7] were of white genetic stock harkening back to Adam.

This is inaccurate.


950217  No.12105558

>>12097927

Good vid. Just leaves out that Augustus was described as shitskin. Strange omission.


9468c5  No.12108788

>>12105558

Where was he supposedly described as such?

https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/emperors.htm


a1e143  No.12108890

>>11811520

Strangely enough I've been wondering about this lately and figured that if you'd look, you'd likely find evidence of this happening with a lot of empires


13139b  No.12108919

>>11812271

>>11812351

>not knowing the difference between jews and white hebrew israelites

you sure have a high iq from rick & morty ay mate?


13139b  No.12108948

>>11998542

Why is for both 8pol and cuckpol so hard to realise this? Maybe the time is not right that we wake up this truth that (((they))) took from us by destroying our history or God let us know when the time is right.

>>11812271

>>11812351

Forgot to mention if the bible is all about being a cuck and not defending ourself why did the Messiah did a self made whip and fucked over the (((money changers))) and insulted them while destroying everything around the temple? Why did he even outed the (((rabbis))) as being stupid cunts who can't read the scripture right, but do believe in human rules and laws instead those of God? Why did he told us to sell our cloaks and buy a sword? It is written do not marry outside of your tribe, meaning race, the word for race weren't there at the time. *tips fedora*


5cd460  No.12108963

>>12108919

>hebrew Israelites

>white

Wrong. Christian Identity WE WUZery is a delusion at this point.


5cd460  No.12108985

>>11998542

>muh Edomites garbage

Esau was honorable and the Canaanites were an advanced people of good morals whom the Jews were always jealous of. You have fallen for the Jewish anti-Canaanite propaganda like an idiot. Those Pharisees hated the Canaanites, and that's why (((Their))) rules reflected this (Hence why Jesus had to work around the Jewish public's antipathy towards the Canaanite woman by calling her a dog - at least if you accept the Christian excuse for this).


8e66e1  No.12109159

>>12108985

A guy walks into the holy temple of the city, starts beating on businessmen who probably got some pull in the community. But he has to stoop so low as to call a member of a people more decent than Jews, a dog? Because what? Some of the Jews who already hate him will hate him a little bit more? Both the story and explanation are examples of Jewry. An Aryan would never put it to record that he called somebody a dog. He loves dogs. And that's not a way to talk about somebody who is supposedly decent in any case. The explanation is pure Jewish disregard for logic, morals and truth.

Now definitely Jesus had a lot of Aryan in him, lest he would not appeal so much to white people. He's so loved that people ignore the fact that the old testament resonates very little with white people, most Christians choosing to tacitly ignore it. But I'm reconciled with the probability that he was a mutt, and whenever NatSocs find things they have to explain away about him, and about Christianity, it is that foreign element causing it.


348067  No.12109245

>>12108985

>>12109159

Both of you are fucking retarded. It's a rhetorical game that the woman played on Jesus when he called her a skeptic.

Dogs were not considered unclean, and being called a dog was not an insult: it implied you were pragmatic, and possibly skeptical of things that could not be immediately proven to you. This is why Diogenes et al are called Cynic philosophers, coming from the Greek word for Dog. Jesus was referencing how he was sent to preach to a specific group of people who were already prepared to hear his message and would not be predisposed to be too skeptical to ignore the message out of hand. He was showing his followers that they shouldn't make the mistake of standing on a street corner and screaming the world is ending 31AD style.

So this woman, having just been called a skeptic, plays a joke on Jesus and says "Ahh, but doesn't the little pet dog eat from the master's table as well?".

She used the word Kunarion, and Jesus found it hilarious. People love to use this story to preach Jewish Supremacy Haage style, but the entire issue stems from the fact that brainlets don't look into the Greek. Looking at the Greek, you realize it's a big rhetorical game played with Jesus after he uses metaphor to explain to his apostles that they shouldn't waste their time with people who would be too busy arguing the semantics of the message to listen to it.

But then again, (((some))) people are absolutely terrified that you would even think to look at the Latin (if you're a Catholic) or the Greek (if you are otherwise).


5cd460  No.12109314

>>12109159

I don't personally buy this notion that Jesus called a woman a dog just because she wasn't Jewish. It reads like a (((Pauline))) adulteration.

>>12109245

Although, this poster makes an excellent point. It would just seem too (((Out of character))) for Christ to be walking around calling gentiles dogs if there wasn't some rhetoric involved.


348067  No.12109534

>>12109314

Also, one needs to keep into account that a few pages before this, he literally says that gentiles will sit down with the sons of the tribe of Judah before God.

tl;dr (((they))) do everything they can to obfuscate Christ's message.


348067  No.12109568

>>12109534

In addition, people also need to realize that Christ only says two people are of "Great Faith" in the entire of the gospels. Both of these people are gentiles, one: the Canaanite woman and the other was a Roman Centurion. It is also (((Out of Character))) for a man who considers gentiles to be of great faith to go around insulting them and not deserving of his message. He refers to his apostles as people with "little", read as marginal, faith.

This entire issue doesn't even touch the fact that the "Chosenness" of the tribes of Israel was entirely based upon the fact that these people were the lowest of the low before God entered into a covenant with these people - not that God thought they were at all "special" or the "best".

At the risk of blaspheming, and insinuating that the implications are exactly the thoughts of God, it is heavily implied that God gifted the covenant to these tribes due to the fact that they were the lowest of all: and that by having the shit kicked out of them repeatedly they would understand the need to be humble and pious. Ergo, he chose to reveal himself to these people with the thought that they would, due to their experience of all things impious, behave in a pious manner. Then, seeing that they constantly broke the covenant, acted impiously, and sought to destroy other nations unjustly, fulfilled the covenant, thereby revoking their chosen status, and revealed himself for all of the world through Christ.

Talmudic Judaism hates Christ implicitly because it contains the implication that they are not special, never were special, and lost the ability to ever be special because they spit in the face of God after being shown the truth time and again.


13139b  No.12112663

>>12108963

Yeah, but yo druid bullshit makes more sense. The white race is something special and you are like: No.


13139b  No.12112745

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>>12109245

>>12109314

>>12109245

>>12109314

>>12109534

Well, even those who are not of the adamic race can still repent

>>12109568

>>12112663


13139b  No.12112754

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b60a32  No.12113297

>>12109568

Why would the creator of the universe be stupid enough to trust kikes in the first place?


8e66e1  No.12113480

>>12112754

Always remember that the Christian never had any qualms about slaughtering the best of white people if they did not want to cuck to his adopted desert God. And that makes the Christians a Jew. Worse even, because he is also a race traitor. This is the fact that the Christian never owns up to, and that is why any National Socialist should never trust them. They will always put their Jewish God before you.

And now he tries to claim that the only alternative to Christianity was paganism. Self assured that he has been able to destroy all knowledge about what was once true whiteness. Rule of law, no degeneracy, no slavery, real socialism and equality. This was the way of life in much of the North before it all succumbed to Christianity. They managed to resist paganism, but not "the holy cross" of Israel.


d8d0fd  No.12113642

>>11814996

>you wont survive with other races around

>so kill off the Italians, Spaniards, and Greeks

found the subhuman kike


96ea62  No.12113688

>>12109568

THE ALMIGHTY ALL GOOD GOD. DIDN'T. CHOOSE. (((JEWS)))

He chose a forsaken naive and weak Canaanite tribe that would have gotten their shit pushed in if He didn't help them. He didn't choose a bunch of scheming rats who knew how to play the game.

>No eye had pity on thee to do any of these things for thee, out of compassion to thee: but thou wast cast out upon the face of the earth in the abjection of thy soul, in the day that thou wast born. And passing by thee, I saw that thou wast trodden under foot in thy own blood. and I said to thee when thou wast in thy blood: Live: I have said to thee: Live in thy blood.


13139b  No.12113768

File: 731f9a11032f4d6⋯.jpg (89.18 KB, 846x717, 282:239, 1533203923519.jpg)

>>12113480

Nigger literally fucking what? Hitler was christian and everything you say against that is yiddish shilling. You could say he was the Messiah Yeshua 2.0, maybe a scapegoat, 'cause if not for him Christianity would have been already erased from the earth by the Kikes although without their Holocaust™ made by Germany, but indeed a other land, most probably Russia.

Also take the Vatican and every other Church and shove it in your ass. Catholcucks are not christian, don't even get me started on the (((Pope))) and his (((priests))), as long as you do what the bible says you are a true follower of the Messiah (christian).

Try me, chaim.


378339  No.12116411

>>11811520

>huge numbers of late Roman Republic inhabitants had names which originated in the (((Levant,))

yeah, they're kikes and they called themselves "christians," dipshit. Neitzsche literally already said this


01a06f  No.12116441

>>12113688

>JEWZ WUZ CANAANITES N' SHEEIT

Wrong. The Heebs/Pissraelites and the Canaanites were mortal enemies.


d63fcd  No.12116820

>>12113768

>Hitler was christian

>he actually believes this


f27e8a  No.12116912

>>12108788

Same source as his hair color. You'd think a man's skin complexion would be mentioned when trying to work out the "race" of a guy, but hey, that's what happens you have an agenda to push. Even on statues his eyes were painted brown lol


4eb1b8  No.12121150

File: 3439060f2936121⋯.png (247.25 KB, 2000x1546, 1000:773, christ brings division.png)

File: 527afdadfe245ea⋯.webm (2.69 MB, 1440x1049, 1440:1049, adolf hitler church windo….webm)

>>12112745

>>12112754

>>12113768

NO GOOD JEW

King Jew is no exception. Christianity is and always has been anti-aryan.


41579b  No.12121470

File: 100566a9334180c⋯.webm (14.16 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Adolf Hitler Responds to ….webm)

>>12113768

He was spiritual, not a christian.

The church powers worked against Hitler and the NSDAP even though Hitler tried to work with them, even appeased them often.

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954000  No.12122486

Rome is agood allegory for the collapse of the US.  Recent Europe is like Greece in Roman times, still above water, but not what it once was.  The US had slaves which changed its demographics, immigration from the levant, and barbarian hords from the south.  It is pretty eye opening to see threads like this and read about that time period because the parallels are many and the lost knowledge is great.


32de8e  No.12127598

>>12121150

>what is a jew

Israelites =/= Jews. At this point you're just retarded. Basta.


32de8e  No.12127629

File: 17612766f34a7e6⋯.gif (1.19 MB, 854x480, 427:240, Nations-of-Yahweh.gif)

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>>12116820

Yes chaimsel shlomowitz

>>12121470

Churches =/= Biblical

Nowadays priest etc. are kidfucking goyim who love to tell ya to love everybody and let anybody in especially niggers


1c4785  No.12127664

>>12116820

>he hasnt seen the greatest story never told

he gets the swastika from the church. he went to church as a boy


1e2f04  No.12127713

>>11813163

>celebrates the family

kek. christinsanity tells people to reject their parents and follow jesus


1e2f04  No.12127731

>>11812405

>Yeah sure, the jews created the empire, Augustus, the lativundias and slavery.

Yeah, all that stuff is like the AIDS and Christianity is the tuberculosis. Early Christians got "martyred" until Rome was too far shitskinned and big-governmented to fight back against the Jeboids. That's why whites need a society where cities never get too big, shitskin slaves are not allowed, and jews are autoshoahed if discovered within its borders.


7c01ff  No.12128059

>>11813345

Fake quote. Schweitzer never said this.

Right wing discourse is saturated with phony and misattributed quotes. So many that I believe this is actually a psyop.


6536ed  No.12128116

They find any graves with RODRIGUEZ in gothic letters


a1c69d  No.12162035

Based


8d451c  No.12162470

https://youtu.be/ltjH6HPs7vg

No faggots, the alt-right was the reason for the fall of the roman empire -and that is a good thing

Tl;dw version of the lecture

>"barbarians" were actually commanders of the roman army, born romans, living dressing eating like romans

>there was a rethorical dialectic of "barbarian"/civilized that controlled roman politics and served the purpose of delegitimizing competition for the throne

>any suitable heir not accepted by the imperial intelligentsya was considered in all records of history as "barbarians" and their attempts of grabbing power were written down as "barbarian invasions"

>all it took for the empire to fall was for one general to put a pair of pants and a barbarian helmet and gladly accept his place in the dialectics as a barbarian -this gave him massive popular support

>this general proceeds to do that which would be the most barbarian action possible - sack Rome itself

>suddenly all local commanders of the army do the same and each conquers a different area of the empire

>substitute "barbarian" for "nazi", that's the point in History we presently are


ac36e5  No.12162880

So the jews created christianity and then used christians from the middle east to overwhelm and destroy Rome in the same way they created islam and are attempting to destroy the west today?


a2410f  No.12162996

>>12127664

>he gets the swastika from the church.

This is an inventive form of delusion. Also, Dennis Wise puts a christian bias/spin to the documentary. Instead of saying Germans, Russians or other nationalities he makes sure to insert Christian✞™. This is the christian way, where the Cult of christianity goes above race in the end. To be clear, I think its a brilliant powerful documentary

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/100566a9334180c8f6e0aed787ccbef6ff4ddb6ce2f1eecdadcfc6510fb2abc4.webm


f3db9d  No.12164538

>>12162880

The short answer, yes.

They gained control over the slave class and used connections through them to get political representatives on their side. The jewish-christian infiltration of roman politics was the beginning of the end of rome. Almost every story of degenerate roman politicians match up with jewish-christian infiltration, and the ones that don't are easily the case of accusing your enemy of what you're doing.

Reminder: revelations is an anti-rome declaration. All of the "symbols" in it are easily identified as relating to rome. Revelations' relevance ends there. That was the mission of christianity, which was so successful that it was repurposed as the foot in the door for the rest of europe.


4662f7  No.12164616

>>12113297

You are thinking too small. If God wanted to prove to everyone that He really was God, the Creator, the font of all that Good and Righteous; then how should he go about such a thing?

If He had chosen the Germanics, Celts or Scandinavians; then when we looked back on history to see them acting righteously, to see them winning great victories, to see them being a pure and noble and honourable people; then would we not think that they were so because of their blood?

… But to look back in history and hear that the Jews were noble, pure and brave? What madness is this?! Surely such a thing can only of happened by the grace of the All Mighty, for I can think of nothing else that can raise such a rotten and vile people up. Their inevitable fall was nothing to do with God being stupid or short-sighted; it was done to be a proof to all of us, so that we would see what vile and wretched creatures they are when left to their own devices - and we would know that God is so great that even the most despicable of all can be pure, courageous, noble and righteous, if only they do His will.


4662f7  No.12164659

>>12164538

Go and read Revelation 18.

Who is it that all the kings of the world have fornicated with and been made drunk by?

>The jew

Who are the Merchants?

>der juden

Who is it that murdered the prophets and saints?

>the hebrews

Who is this beast? Who are the children of the devil?

>the devil, the jews

Why Babylon instead of Israel?

>Israel literally means 'nation of God', so for the Bible to say that it was 'the nation of God being destroyed' would sound ridiculous. But do you know what's interesting about Babylon? Have you ever heard of the Babylonian Talmud? … The pharisees… the jews.

You clearly know absolutely nothing about theology or history, assuming you are not a shill. Please refrain from talking about subjects that you know little about. /pol/ is a place of learning.


0f859e  No.12164715

File: 85d114481ddfe8e⋯.jpg (67.35 KB, 247x324, 247:324, (egyptian firstborn cries ….jpg)

did the glorious romans and greeks, who never tamed an animal or plant and never invented a writing system, were destroyed by those who really contributed to the civilization banner?

thats really nice, makes a lot of sense


14b54d  No.12165916

The Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Egypt, and the rest of North Africa were white before bedouins from the arabian peninsula and mongols from central asia invaded. Hell even Persians were still pretty white at the time of the Roman Empire. The problem wasn't that the immigrants were non-whites, it's that they were different people, and mixing people of different ethnicities inherently leads to lack of co-operation and decline of society.


af27c3  No.12165949

>>12164659

Stop getting Babylon into this, Babylon is a heaven compared to desert mud huts that is Israel.


a20a0d  No.12166542

>>12164715

>did the glorious romans and greeks, who never tamed an animal or plant and never invented a writing system

You are an actual retard


5419df  No.12166696

>>12164616

Yahweh is a god that despises those who cow to his will. Note the similarities in this term and the term ‘goyim’ - these gentiles, or pure peoples, do not cower to Yahweh, but are blessed with prosperity that, according to the stories of Cain and Abel, Job, the prodigal son, and Isaac, is merited because they do not serve His will. So Jews are left with the philosophical and scriptural issue of choosing to obey the laws of their one true god and face constant persecution, or to break His command and prosper - combined with the question of whether no -believers are worthy of moral judgement/consideration for their lack of faith. The whole religion, then, has to beat the Jew into submission to seee if he will break the curse of Yahweh and survive - but be cast out from his fellow tribe for having left them to suffer, and thereby lose any home. One must of course remember that Jews are known for their nomadism.

So, in order to maintain a social whole, a Jewish identity, they must posit that it is their disobedience of others’ customs that makes them the chosen and virtuous people of the earth, rather then the disobedience of their own God, even though to do so they must ruthlessly best their own into submission with physical and psychological assaults.

The Jew hates himself, and that is what makes him Virtuous.


000000  No.12166713

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