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96fd16  No.11976428

The powers that be are cracking down on the internet and I fear we will soon find ourselves without a home online. Someone as mild as Alex Jones can be deplatformed now. If the kikes had the power to kick him off the net then they would. Anons in the EU are facing more and more draconian censorship laws and if the dems come back into power then we will see similar laws here. While we should definitely be getting off of websites like Facebook and Twitter, we need something that can't be shut down. We need an decentralized alternative to the internet. The only things close to that (that I know of) are HAMnet, packet radios, and maybe hostcoin. If any anons have better solutions please share them with the rest of the class. We need an alternative and we need it soon or we are fucked.

0f11d7  No.11976439

No.

Fight for the internet.


96fd16  No.11976471

>>11976439

Yes we should certainly keep fighting, but it would be wise to have a plan b.


383b50  No.11976475

>>11976428

>"give your enemy an inch, and they willtake a mile"

Rather than finding an alternative; perhaps "we" should stand our ground yes?

bump for reasons


edf64a  No.11976493

SHUT THE WHOLE INTERNET DOWN


eaea13  No.11976499

>>11976493

AND GO TO THE LOCAL BEER HALL


edf64a  No.11976503

>>11976499

CHECKED

Lots of good shit has come from the beer halls brüder

See you there


ac632d  No.11976506

>>11976475

Yes, networking with each other in a more permanent and unbreakable fashion would be more effective. Set up networks of contacts via a platform like Ricochet or something like that.


96fd16  No.11976509

>>11976475

There is a chance that the kikes could win this round. Yes we should keep fighting. We shouldn't make life easy for them, but we should be ready if they take down the internet.


edf64a  No.11976522

Old school bulletin boards / cork boards

Yeah it's slow but we could still shitpost


2e0fa9  No.11976526

YOUR LOCAL BEER HALL

No srsly anon. IF THEY TAKE THE INTERNET, TAKE THEIR SOUL.


8201aa  No.11976533

How is IPFS?


1ca5c7  No.11976537

>>11976522

We lose our global reach if we go old school.


4ab572  No.11976544

>>11976475

>Not taking ground for yourself.


edf64a  No.11976551

>>11976537

Our message has been firmly implanted in the minds of the masses

If they take our containment field away all the better. Force some irl action.

Smoke signals and high powered laser pointers signaling morse code from region to region

K.E.K.

-.- . -.-


000000  No.11976563

Support decentralized platforms you shitbirds. Don't just pay lip service, COMMIT! Delete your Twitter, tell everyone you are going to Mastadon, then DO IT

Mastadon is infinitely superior and unlike most open source software it actually works pretty well. We are the culture creators, if we move the normies will eventually follow.


3f000f  No.11976595

File: 930d0c2e7318512⋯.png (981.62 KB, 2000x1500, 4:3, github is for fagits.png)

Setup a personal site using Jekyll and add disqus comment capability. They can't shut us all down. And even if you are taken down, just move your site to another host. Easy peasy.

Don't use GitHub. They will take you down. Gitlab is good.

You can always come to my site to shitpost.

Iamwillywonkaa.gitlab.io


dc85fb  No.11976623

Something decentralized without a domain name.


96fd16  No.11976631

>>11976595

>And even if you are taken down, just move your site to another host.

Or we could find a more permanent solution. We can't run forever.


dc85fb  No.11976633

>>11976551

>Smoke signals and high powered laser pointers signaling morse code from region to region

What about mesh networks?


ac632d  No.11976645

File: 8f8ce1e4066a5c8⋯.png (101.39 KB, 1057x491, 1057:491, mastodon.png)

>>11976563

Any specific instance you suggest?


96fd16  No.11976647

>>11976633

HAMnet is a mesh network.

http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_multimedia_radio


c76e9b  No.11976649

retroshare like /hypno/, IPFS like /tech/, or just BitTorrent like /pdfs/.


000000  No.11976654

>11976428

> I fear

>Someone as mild as Alex Jones can be deplatformed now

This is a kike post. It is meant to demoralize.

>BE SCARED


ba49f8  No.11976666

I've said it once and I'll say it again the three major options seem to be:

>Handshakes or Signals.

This reduces 'anon' status though and takes away what actually makes us powerful. It's a simple idea but reduces literally everything that makes 'us' 'us'.

>Jekyll/Gitlab/Hamnet

All good but could easily be potentially taken down and would just create an 'on the run' culture which to be perfectly honest isn't terrible. USB drops and what not would be fun and spy LARP like but this isn't a permanent solution.

>Infiltration

Quite literally being a 'collective' lone wolf.

<FInd venue/club/etc

<Infiltrate said venue/club etc

<Steer it towards the turning wheel

<Slowly we have 'spring up' groups everywhere

Again though, Anonymous is the core.

So what do we do?


dc85fb  No.11976668

>>11976563

>Mastadon

>https:// joinmastodon.org/

This you torfag?


96fd16  No.11976670

>>11976654

>A kike post encouraging users to find decentralized censorship resistant platforms.

The only kike here is you, Moshe.


96fd16  No.11976678

>>11976666

How could HAMnet be taken down?


f0a1b9  No.11976688

memo.cash

twitter clone on the blockchain. literally uncensorable, and more people are using it everyday.


dc85fb  No.11976691

IRC again?


ba49f8  No.11976703

>>11976678

TOR was taken down, not being a downer simply saying that it might be effective for now but policies and 'solutions' to dissidents are created daily so we should prep. HAMnet imo would be the most viable solution though it should be kept as a solution with a shelf life.


d1e841  No.11976720

>>11976678

Autistic boomers assisting zog by triangulating comms. To maintain opsec, one would have to schedule of freqs or only operate during certain, only passed in person, times/places.


0b6e06  No.11976731

>>11976428

This has been in /tech/.


000000  No.11976732

>>11976668

Yes.

>>11976645

I use pawoo since weeb. Maybe someone has started one for the Right. In the end it doesn't matter as they have a mechanism for migrating your account between instances.


9fd366  No.11976736

>>11976703

>Iamwillywonkaa.gitlab.io

Not sure who I tagged but this might be a long read, and it's supposed to be important, so listen up.

Here is the perfect solution: Riot.im

You can read a lot about it, it's well documented.

Documentation: https://matrix.org/docs/spec/

Here's a summary: Matrix defines a set of open APIs for decentralised communication, suitable for securely publishing, persisting and subscribing to data over a global open federation of servers with no single point of control. Uses include Instant Messaging (IM), Voice over IP (VoIP) signalling, Internet of Things (IoT) communication, and bridging together existing communication silos - providing the basis of a new open real-time communication ecosystem.

So, you see a general idea of what it is. Now here's the good part. The application [ Riot ] at riot.im is _very_ useful. You can create end-to-end encrypted chats which means no logs and nothing can be read from a 3rd party. Just as well, you can create rooms where people join to chat. It's entirely anonymous, you can sign up for an account at matrix.org using Tor, plus, you can chat while proxied through Tor. So, that also means you could proxy through I2P or something of the sort. Matrix protocol and riot application are very very easy to use and are anonymous to the core.

I suggest that we use this for a number of reasons.

1. Anonymous

2. Decentralized

3. Encrypted (end to end, means no logs)

4. You can host your own node and provide for everyone

Please take this into consideration. If you'd like to chat with me, my contact on Riot is [hide] @suicide:matrix.org [/hide]


9fd366  No.11976742

>>11976736

Feel free to ignore my failure at the end :(


000000  No.11976753

>>11976736

The Murdoch Murdoch fanclub uses Riot. It's good stuff, though not perfect. Never use platforms that can kick you off on a whim.


9fd366  No.11976764

>>11976753

I don't know what that is, woops.

Maybe it's because I haven't watched TV in years and follow none of the trends of society?


ba49f8  No.11976775

>>11976736

That sounds pretty good. I'll have a look into it tonight.


000000  No.11976798

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>11976764

Educate yourself friend. We have our own cultural movement and some of the creators are excellent. None of this is "TV", where do you think we are?


3f000f  No.11976829

>>11976631

True, but in the meantime, I don't see a negative in creating hundreds of hydra heads. 1000 targets are much harder to hit that one


1e787d  No.11976903

File: a96c742de312dbe⋯.gif (472.52 KB, 500x210, 50:21, decaprio shrugggin.gif)

>>11976668

>https://joinmastodon.org/

they have open source code


dc85fb  No.11976998

File: cc01f3258496d11⋯.png (1.2 MB, 1754x983, 1754:983, gfgfg.png)


ac632d  No.11977013

>>11976736

+1 for Matrix/Riot.


c76e9b  No.11977047

>>11976736

To anyone saying "just use Discord"

https://ordoevangelistarum.com/psa-discord-is-jewish-use-riot/

https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/discord/

To learn about how to use Matrix/Riot

https://ordoevangelistarum.com/matrix-encrypted-chat/

https://ordoevangelistarum.com/chat/

https://matrixtutorial.subvert.pw


f4efb2  No.11977050

>>11977047

Fuck Discord. It is quite literally the new Skype and there is a reason why 'Skype' was used as a describer.

I'm admin at /machinecult/ and somebody tried the same shit. RIP our IRC.


c76e9b  No.11977060

>>11977050

Shit! /machinecult/!? Could you join #neural:matrix.ordoevnagelistarum.com ASAP? We need you there


f4efb2  No.11977069

>>11977060

Saved the script, will jump on after work


8156f1  No.11977079

God I miss IRC


f4efb2  No.11977087

>>11977079

IRC was fucking amazing. On /machinecult/ we literally just taught Guacman (A Jeb Bot based on Tay's script) a bunch of key phrases over and over again. Then the owner released him on Twitter and hilarity ensued.

I used the handle Ultron, his last two tweets reference me, felt good man


c76e9b  No.11977089

>>11977069

>#neural:matrix.ordoevnagelistarum.com

Tell the people in #foyer you are from /machinecult/


416b77  No.11977209

>>11976736

I'm not finding you on riot. Did you get shoah'ed


9fd366  No.11977238

>>11977209

You have to make a direct chat with exactly this:

@suicide:matrix.org


9a8964  No.11986643

>>11977069

You back?


3a9d17  No.11987264


3fa288  No.11987299

>>11976439

>centralized power structure

>"nooo, let's feed the system by continuing to use it"

meshnet is the future


ec4d36  No.11987343

File: 2abed1433b9f673⋯.jpg (7.99 KB, 182x207, 182:207, uncharted 4.jpg)

>ctrl + f

>carrier pidgeon

>0 results


99f53f  No.11987347

>>11976533

Good, but not an efficient replacement for bbs.


a7db2e  No.11987352

>>11987343

I don't know why /pol/ isn't on my shortwave radio? Fix this codemonkey!


ec4d36  No.11987368

File: 712e6e6db3b0048⋯.jpg (63.92 KB, 400x400, 1:1, ov.jpg)

I think we should start using smoke signals.


20259e  No.11987476

>>11976666

>Handshakes or Signals

so… we become Free Masons?


11b3fa  No.11987493

File: 0b9c30753e1a5ac⋯.jpg (37.97 KB, 328x499, 328:499, 51hylzZ85KL._SX326_BO1,204….jpg)

>>11976428

Have you tried real life? It's like a social network, but better.


000000  No.11987829

>>11976688

>literally can't delete CP from it

Should I spell it out to you how its users will get v& if this starts to gain traction?


000000  No.11987993

>>11987343

You can use all protocols mentioned in this thread over RFC 1149 links if you want, anon.


6439ae  No.12008147

File: e8d48a834ef50ff⋯.png (124.6 KB, 1298x974, 649:487, De-Googlefy Your Life.png)


57d4f4  No.12008579


000000  No.12008721

why use riot/matrix when you can use xmpp. its federated, clients dont require javascript, it can be router over tor, and its a mature solution unline matrix synapse which appears to be in pretty young.


52ff64  No.12008747

File: 0bc9b406c6a8e50⋯.jpg (261.67 KB, 667x1000, 667:1000, 20160801-IMG_0793.jpg)

You faggots need Iceland. Strictest privacy policies in the entire world.

They have hosted services for anything, mounting another 8chan would be easy, and could never be shut down easily.

Viking-land for the win.


000000  No.12008749

The situation is even worse than this. It's not just the internet anymore.

Robert Spencer from Jihadwatch got booted from Patreon. Not because he broke any rules. He got booted because mastercard told Patreon to boot him. There is a really dirty game going on, with the Cabal pulling strings that pull string that pull strings that pull strings and attacking from the shadows. Mastercard may not even be the original source, but they are the earliest in the chain we are aware of so we should attack them.

No fucking lame namecalling on twitter. No stupid deaththreats. We will attack them intelligently and with finesse, using their same shady tricks against them.

First of all, this should be obvious. Don't use a mastercard, get a visa. Second. If you have a position where you can control a company or organization, get them to use a visa. DON"T state the reason. If challenged make up a bullshit reason.

The second front is attacking their cut. Why should stores have to pay them a few percent for doing barely anything? Normally the contract will prohibit stores from charging higher prices to cover this. HOW IS THAT FAIR? Tell your representatives that this is horribly anticompetitive.

The third front is attacking late fees and overdraft fees. This disproportionally affects poor and underprivileged people who live hand to mouth. These fees must be massively cut.

The fourth front is parasitism. Look into credit card churning where you get and cancel credit cards at a rapid pace to get bonus moneys. Make sure to be careful so you don't hand them money instead of taking it.

The fifth front is attacking the competitive situation. Are two credit card companies really enough? Do they need to broken up into tiny tiny pieces?


89662e  No.12008839

>>11976503

HOT, CROWDED BEER HALLS IN YOUR AREA LOOKING TO GET NATIONALIST

FIND OUT HOW

》》CLICK HERE《《

Seriously though, I think the public square will explode horribly if they try to ban this place or seriously crack down on the internet. What do we have to lose at that point, you know? We have to communicate somehow, and all the crackdown does is legitimize /pol/ and it's spiritual cousin sites across the internet.

More likely they'll march against individual sites, though.


cc837c  No.12008873

>>11976428

Write letters, forward letters, use snail mail. It's pretty cheap. Use a wax seal, carve the seal yourself so it's hard to replicate. Make sure the recipient checks that the seal wasn't tampered with. Use other tamper-proofing methods for delivery. Deliver the letters by hand when possible. Avoiding kiked and pozzed internet surveillance is not that difficult. Just avoid the internet. How much are you saying online that's really crucial or important? Probably not much. Take what little that is important, mail it to a friend, ask that friend to reply. If that friend has another, he can copy the letter by hand and send it to that friend. Thus your idea is spread by a "community of correspondence." If it's a good idea, someone else might talk about it. Congratulations, you're officially a human.


fb9b18  No.12011752

>>11976506

>>11976509

You mean like IRL networking? It's effective but slow and casts a very narrow net. Ready to do what anon? I'm a little blackpilled right now but I don't think there would be a revolution if they shut down the internet in the U.S like they have in the Ejew. Look at the Warner bill being floated around right now. They know, they just can't right now.

>>11976537

True but hopefully >>11976551 is right. Hopefully the global message that we have broadcast and will continue to until we no longer can has been seen who needed to see it.

>>11976829

Agreed

>>11987352

gonna look into this


971432  No.12014488

# ZeroNet it has many tools built in It works on web technologies, but it is not the WWW as we know it because you need to run a special client to connect to this hidden world.

https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet


459351  No.12021381

TOR? I2P? Freenet? GNUNet? How would you do proxies?

IPFS? Bittorrent? Joystream? How would you share files?

Sia? Storj? Maidsafe? Filecoin? How would you do file storage?

GNUTaler? DarkWallet? How would you do monetary transactions?

BTC? ETH? LTC? XRP? XMR? DASH? ZEC? A new currency?


674a75  No.12021384

Deport yourself illegals


26b155  No.12021704

>>11976563

Mastodon and CounterSocial are both owned by SJWs, Antifas and such. Freezepeach is safer.


26b155  No.12021706

>>11976595

remember gitgud.io


9f6fc6  No.12021767

>>11976428

The need for ISP's is the weak point of internet.


26b155  No.12021779

>>12021767

And that is why HAM radio and Mesh Networks are the future for small cities (but not in-between cities or world-wide)


26b155  No.12021782

>>12008749

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropayment

GNUTaler, Flattr, Stellar/SatoshiPay?


1f2cc1  No.12021834

There is even a beer hall board.

I suggest lurkers return.


3f000f  No.12021882

>>12021706

Tried it but couldn't figure out their pages option. I liked the idea of what it stands for tho.


91b029  No.12022169

>>12008839

They smash this site and teh hive disperses to recreate itself in a thousand places, to have one rule supreme again

it is inherent to the users and the technology


069222  No.12022201

How about both? Fight for a "hands off" big brother approach while creating a separate network

>The reason for the 1st amendment is simple; free speech acts like a relief valve. Without it, things become really bad. It's there to vent/to prevent overpressurization

The internet we have today is based upon Telephony. There is a vast amount of space available on radio frequencies where only a single band is needed. It's there, just waiting to be exploited


7af1ee  No.12022212

Bit off-topic, but:

This whole computer technology revolution is in some sense completely fucked up.

I mean, we probably spent the last 10.000 years as a species adapting to just shit like language, agriculture and settling down.

Then comes the industrial revolution and shit just goes upside down. Our brains cannot even really make sense of artificial light.

And then just 40 years ago, computers became a thing. And then the internet. And next there will be AI technology in your fucking toaster.

The technological race caught up with us maby 2-300 years ago and have now far surpassed our inherent ability to truly live alongside it. And it's continuing to accelerate at unstoppable rates.

Shit's fucked yo.

Our minds was ment to understand that rustling leaves could mean danger, not that too much online poker could mean fincancial ruin.

But hey:

We're sort of feel ok with it because we can at any instance find a video of a guy snorting chili and laugh about it.


732855  No.12037404

>>12022201

You can't just "have one band", otherwise only one person can talk at a time. You need multiple bands or multiple cables.


173033  No.12037414

>>12008839

>Seriously though, I think the public square will explode horribly if they try to ban this place or seriously crack down on the internet.

Going offline is better anyways.

Go to a bar or a local beer hall.

Go to a commnity center. make yourself heard and talk to people.


a62440  No.12037445

>>11976428

Usenet.


f90221  No.12041211

>>12037445

Is Usenet traceable? Can the kikes shut it down?


12ebee  No.12041417

A series of taught strings with cans on the end


bcbb75  No.12041436

File: c5fa20dac24905c⋯.webm (1.73 MB, 640x360, 16:9, FBI OPEN UP.webm)


89f1f5  No.12041672

Hi feds. I'm posting here in your thread. Hope you get some cool tips about where all the real dirt is.

Anyway. While we're here.

You (anon) don't want e-celebs to start. Let them be purged. On top of that, containment boards will always be present. If you have to run around and be on the go from time to time while looking for a new base, do it then you faggot you're supposed to be thrilled with the idea of guerrilla movement. Revel in it. Finally, you will always be able to go behind enemy lines (reddit facebook twitter youtube etc) and drop red pills as a lonewolf. (Maybe start bulking up your folders lad). This creates a scenario where chosen anon is moved by red pill and seeks to join the boogie man containment board and join the collective unconscious. This censorship shit is basically helping increase anonymity though it may slow down the spread of the anon web. It will lead to more quality and less quantity anyway. It will also create an awareness of a 'mainstream' internet like mainstream television and music which will create an unprecedented surge to the underground right in about 20 years. Way to go dipshits.


182d12  No.12041711

Carrier pigeons and smoke signals


b42fa5  No.12041722

>>11976563

>tumblrdon

stick to gnu/social, but do note you can't get shoah'd regardless

>>12008721

matrix bridges mainly, think they have one for xmpp as well

>>12041672

have already started using "clearnet" unironically to mean the normie web, did so unintentionally, fits nicely


d90b03  No.12041983

File: 6984d035a83488d⋯.gif (2.36 MB, 480x480, 1:1, 6984d035a83488daaa5a50f4e9….gif)

>>12021381

>XRP?

esplain why this was ever uttered


a70463  No.12042259

>>11976428

So, you're saying you need ol' fags who can tell you how to set up PPP over dial ups, like the internet really was, and start passing around telephone numbers.


f90221  No.12042313

>>12042259

Teach us your ways old fag.


de13c6  No.12042523

>>11976428

You use Tor, wisely.


de13c6  No.12042525

And Tox over Tor.


8b01a8  No.12042556

>If any anons have better solutions please share them with the rest of the class

Meshnet, or whatever it's called. Can't shut down the internet when servers are hosted literally fucking everywhere.


de13c6  No.12042578

>>12042556

Do you know how to use Tor? Do you know about Whonix? Do you know about Tox over Tor?

Have you EVER toxed ANYONE?!


f777ce  No.12043063

>The powers that be are cracking down on the internet and I fear we will soon find ourselves without a home online.

>tptb

>muh beer hall

>muh masonry is leik hitler beer hall

>go to tptb

this is why they are shutting it down so they can shut us down individually at the lodge if you stand on the tables (like hitler not the dancers) and scream about masons and jews. So just blame the jews and go to le beer hall? Chug a dick faggots

>>11976499

mason


4ca5fe  No.12043083

Dial up BBS


b6a77b  No.12043581

>>11976493

Oy vey shut it down!


0ae33a  No.12044069

They can cut off our access to websites by refusing relevant DNS queries, or by dropping packets to the server's IP address, but unless the server is physically located in the US or another ZOG country, they can't actually take the website down. In this case, the problem is not that the website is gone, but that it's inaccessible.

Meshnets make it much more difficult for (((them))) to restrict access, because, by design, the meshnet should have hundreds of viable paths through which to send the packets. Literally the the easiest way that a website accessible over a meshnet can be cut offline is if all nodes in the vicinity of the meshnet are taken down. This is possible, but if all pertinent data in the packets are encrypted, then it's virtually impossible to determine the contents of the packets, and so ZOG would have to at least resort to some legal bullshitery to justify a search and destroy operation of meshnet nodes.

A major problem, though, is that like all communication paths that are encrypted or otherwise difficult to track a person's location over, the meshnet will likely become a haven for pedophiles. Those fuckers just have to ruin everything.


111d5d  No.12044142

>>11987368

>not shining a spotlight into the sky and do morse code

Only works on cloudy days though.


c71496  No.12044149


c71496  No.12044155

>>12042578

jondonym also


5aa280  No.12044431

>>12043063

Spoiler that shit.

Fucking disgusting man.


cbb646  No.12044467

>>11976736

Software doesn't matter, all modern CPUs are pozzed beyond belief. To actually have any security you need to not have your CPU ratting out every keypress to home base.


917dde  No.12044635

>>12044467

That's a bit inaccurate. CPU are vulnerable to NSA-CIA hacking, however, in the default circumstance a Ryzen, running Linux, isn't spied on. But the potential for implanting a trojan doubtless exists.

Now, how can we be confident in this area? Because it is possible to trace completely all communications through the router. This is done all the time by white hat hackers, using various types apps (on other machines). So we know they aren't leaking your info, your keystrokes, as you put it.

But we also know that the PSP is a dodgy thing, and we also know that consumer CPU designs are not open source.

So what's your risk level? Well, if you get targeted ur fucked, because, from the inside, your CPU is quartered (this is a 3rd Amendment violation). But that doesn't mean you can't prevent yourself from being spied on by default - you can.

Now, relating to the question of CPU backdoors, there is progress in this area, pic related. $3000 right now, gotta add ram, a videocard, and a PSU to that…

…and it will be frightfully slow…

…but the price should come down. My hope is that they'll get it down to Raspberry Pi levels, or at least < $200 for a fully-functional PC.


000000  No.12044665

>>12044635

Let me make this clear that nothing and I mean nothing you do will stop a motivated and dedicated spook or cianigger using standard opsec like a couple of blockers/add-ons, a change in OS, a custom CPU you get off some foreign fab or foundry, or even using whore like now because you don't use whore to hide from cianiggers or what have you, it's best for other reasons not connected to spooks. The best way to hide from spooks is simply the same way professional spies do it, by blending in.


c6b610  No.12044706

>>11976753

>>11976764

It's a web-based Matrix client. It can inter-operate with all other Matrix servers, and via Matrix's extensive bridging, many other messaging systems. Matrix+Riot looks and functions similar to Discord, but you can have it completely under your own control.


ff9864  No.12044715

>>11976439

>>11976428

children you are idiots

1) aj was on their platform, he shouldnt be on facebook or fucking youtube he did it to himself

2) plan b , are you a retard? do you understand what the internet is? How about you create your own ISP , enjoy

3) what the fuck are we doing here anyways? You act like something of value will be lost. Its a catch 22 just like alex jones. He was too powerful to be allowed to speak but apparently not powerful enough to stop himself from being shut down. If /pol gets shut down its a show that /pol wasnt really doing shit to begin with.

So simply, how will be stop from being shutdown? No answers? Because there is nothing to shutdown anyways , its just shit posting and hitler jokes. I enjoy the forum but if /pol was shut down tomorrw I would just get more work done and go exercise.

It wouldnt really change my life that much? Is anyone really getting shit done on this forum? Any businesses built or real life friends?

The vast majority of us are just being nazi version of boomers , eating our own shit and making fun of the other side.


917dde  No.12044727

>>12044665

So there is a bit of an issue in your writing.

Look, you have an identity. That identity could be attacked, if any of your devices is associated with your identity.

Now, it's quite possible to engage in activities which will never be associated with your identity.

Furthermore, if you use Whonix and no scripts (we need a better browser design, which I have worked out, and which is 100%, yes, I say this adamently, 100% unhackable (due to the absence of sophisticated features)) you've been safe from every attack thus far, so long as you had nothing personally-identifiable (for example, being stupid enough to name your pc something identifiable, unusual) running in any software simultaneously. And if on Ryzen, safe from that risk also. But people like you only see ghosts.

The most important thing you can do, though, is transition to a pen & paper lifestyle, neuter your phone so it doesn't have a mic or camera, and you have to use handsfree.

>>12044706

To what extent is Matrix onion-y? To what extent does it compete with Tor? I didn't read the article on Matrix, and am asking from a position of no knowledge.


917dde  No.12044736

>>12044665

So to some extent I support what you're saying, I hope you understand, but people need to understand the concept of identity, location, that kind of thing. Like what info is out there, what patterns.

And keep track of the fact that it's a myth that you are under constant surveillance even when you are on Tor, and have scripts disabled. They attempt to surveil, but generally have no idea wtf is going on.

But as a way of agreeing with you, everyone should have some modest activity on FB. To look normal.


7810c2  No.12044738


7a22cd  No.12044745

Any suggestion on books about network and infosec? i get completely lost when anons discuss those things.


c6b610  No.12044749

>>12041211

If you use the right provider and preload your path header, it requires path correlation to locate your true posting server - doable, but not easy.

More interesting would be the idea of starting up an independent network. Without the binaries and spam of Usenet proper, this could be feasible to run off anon's own home internet connections. And then, of course, there is nntpchan:

https://github.com/majestrate/nntpchan


c6b610  No.12044761

>>12044727

To no extent. Matrix is more about removing your messaging from corporate control by running your own server on a federated system. It may be possible to operate it over Tor or I2P, I haven't looked into it.


e5af07  No.12044773

>8 pointed star of chaos for the internet

I see what you did there.


917dde  No.12044796

>>12044761

But federated systems can blacklist, right? And since most on federated systems are faggots they'd blacklist all right-wingers, right? So anyone on their servers would experience no less censorship than on TwitterazonFaceBoogle?


b30c82  No.12044820

Normies and cucks are fucking interlopers, fight to re-establish dominance of a free uncensored internet.

But set the framework for an alternative network separate from the bullshit.


006851  No.12044835

>>11976645

there is nazis on mastodon it's just the flagship instance is run by spergs and they instance block them


c6b610  No.12044869

>>12044796

Yes, they can create their own safe-space servers if they wish to, but if we run our own servers they can't shut us down. And most people don't like having their information censored by others - if word gets around that certain servers are heavily censored, all but the most irredeemable SJW cucks (the type who share block-lists on twitter to protect their precious feelz) would avoid them.


917dde  No.12045358

>>12044869

Someone ALWAYS wants to censor me.


c6b610  No.12045520

>>12045358

Then run your own server. They can only censor you on theirs. Do you care if a bunch of snowflakes use safe-space servers to protect their precious feelz from your words? This isn't majority public opinion, and if there was a large-scale public shift to one of these systems, uncensored servers would be more popular.


216cb5  No.12045678

File: b94a6511a40036c⋯.png (173.31 KB, 350x342, 175:171, ClipboardImage.png)


8578cb  No.12046220

I have been thinking of setting up a totally new internet altogether, but still using conventional ISP's. I hate javascript, css, and html- so I would set up scriptable java/c# that would be interpreted by a "hinternet" (the name for this alternative internet) client and display pictures, video, text, etc. Well, either that, or a web host could simply send the binaries for their website, to be run in a sandboxed, secure platform. Anyways, I could run the DNS server at my house, deploy to cloud later, and dole out domains on a first-come first-serve basis. The client/server would communicate using asymmetrical aes 256 encryption. The problem is finding people who would want to develop websites for the hinternet, and beyond that, creating incentive for people to use the hinternet.

Pros:

*asymm encryption means that even if our ISP's log all our data and hand it over to the nsa, it's computationally unfeasible for them to ever crack it.

*No more DNS monopoly, which means a fresh start on domains. wwh.eatmyshit.poo could be yours.

*No more javascript

*greenfield search engine development opportunities

Cons:

*the hinternet would be lonely at first

*steep learning curve, as IIS, php, and many other web dev frameworks are put to REST


bcb564  No.12047335

Can you post a guide on how to set up these systems/sites for ourselves? I'm not all that tech savy myself.


732855  No.12047808

>>12046220

Now you are the ISP. Yay, you solved nothing important


8578cb  No.12052273

>>12047808

No, this system still relies upon ISP's to route traffic. The difference is that when a person connects to a website on the hinternet, instead of applying to a monopolized DNS for the IP of a domain, it applies to a hinternet DNS to get the IP. The client (browser) still needs to connect to the IP, which would be on the web developer's server, and in order to that it needs the ISP to route the traffic to the correct destination.

TL;DR- The main thing the hinternet replaces is the DNS, but it also replaces conventional internet protocol. It doesn't replace the ISP's themselves. To do that, you need something like HAMnet, with ham radios.


d787a3  No.12055017

File: 0777d5100b1ff2a⋯.jpg (26.49 KB, 620x350, 62:35, CERN02.jpg)

Well, this guy wrote a protocol, a language and a browser in his work´s basement, while procastinating from daily chores.

You can do it OP.


77c02e  No.12055230

BREAK UP BIG TECH MONOPOLIES *~> FOSTER COMPETITION

STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP *~> FREE THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS

END SOFTWARE PATENTS *~> RESTART INNOVATION


eab78f  No.12055304

We hams are already ready with Winlink, which despite the name is now Windows dependent. For something like /pol/ there is already 14.313 in North America and there are frequencies like it in Europe too.

Fooling with mesh nets might be practical in dense-packed cities for unlicensed users but nobody has really solved the trunking issue for inter-area connections. Ham radio still wins from a practicality standpoint, this shit is all a solved problem and it’s long haul, the only limitation is bandwidth.


eab78f  No.12055320

>>12055304

NOT Windows dependent.


ec0cc1  No.12055325

File: 3dd6342c476eff7⋯.png (13.96 KB, 336x330, 56:55, 3c6e21a955da939d63b6d7e1c6….png)

>>11976563

>shitbirds

>Delete your Twitter

>unlike most open source software

>normies

>we


a04204  No.12056509

File: cd3bd89089c700d⋯.png (18.14 KB, 256x256, 1:1, retroshare-symbol.png)

Retroshare is the answer.


917dde  No.12056524

>>12045520

False "solution". So long as one is censored, one hasn't a voice.

It's like a stadium with no seats. You can have your own stadium! It will have no seating!


c6b610  No.12058736

>>12056524

This isn't comparable to the likes of Youtube, Twitter, etc, where it's totally centralised and SJWs have control. The current problem is that they are using that power to silence our voices from being heard by potentially receptive ears, using any excuse they can think up ban us from these system entirely.

The whole point of federated systems is that no one person or company has control over a large part of the system. SJWs lose their power under this model. They can run their own servers and censor them, but those servers will only be popular with people who want that censorship. Who would choose to use censored servers, when there are uncensored ones available that inter-operate on the same system? Only fully indoctrinated leftists that need their precious feelz protected from uncomfortable truths that trigger their cognitive dissonance. You lose nothing by having your posts blocked from these people, who choose to put their fingers in their ears. If the server didn't do it for them, they would block you personally anyway. They already share blocklists on twitter to accomplish similar goals.

Given a choice, most people would rather hear all the voices and decide for themselves. Anyone that might be open to our ideas with naturally choose to use an uncensored server. The federated system removes the ability of the SJWs to stand between us and people we could influence.


3ba53c  No.12059556

>>11976563

>>11976645

>>11976668

DO NOT USE ANOTHER SILICON VALLEY FUNDED STARTUP FOR FUCKS SAKE!

You dummies keep falling for the same god damn trick.


63a771  No.12059829

>>12056509

IPFS and Orion is easier and more accessible


ab8d50  No.12059838

Whut?!

Terrorists and mafia bosses are less concerned with opsec. What the actual fuck? None of us are plotting high level shit. We just are a tad racist and shitpost. Fight in public for 1st amendment rights etc but all this cloak and dagger bs is LARPy af


63a771  No.12059860

>>12059838

> Not wanting to Build an Ethnostate or Ancap city

>>>/oven/


6240d0  No.12060052

>>12022212

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock


5ff106  No.12060141

>>11976428

>Freenet

>I2P

>BitMessage

>IPFS

>OpenBazaar

prism-break.org


5ff106  No.12060153

>>12008747

>Strictest privacy policies in the entire world.

Which is why they b& Anglin.


289b02  No.12060216

>>11976428

What if I told you it was possible to build a new internet using the old internet. I feel retarded typing that out but that's the only way to explain it to you brainlets.

What we have here is a classic social engineering trick called the namespace collision. It's something like step one to creating a tower of babel. Funfact: you should shift your perspective of the internet to be 'i am stuck in a tower of babel, i have no idea what level i am on or what room i am in.' This is your internet.

You are stuck in the web.

You are stuck in a web application.

There are other webs. You encounter them on occasion but have no cause to understand that by all measures they are other webs. So to your average anons perspective, there are many internets. The series of tubes can, infact, be redirected to any other set of tubes.

What most people want here is that old new network feel when they first logged on to the intertubes and started shitposting. Look backwards in time. http is but one protocol. There are others. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc977


e15557  No.12060222

>>11976428

FOR THE LAST TIME.

WEB != INTERNET


289b02  No.12060230

>>12060222

The goyim don't know. They think 80/443 are the only ports. They think we can't build our own service discovery mechanisms and services. This is ancient alien techonology to them and it's 40 fuckin years old.

This is your Brave New World.


607758  No.12060233

Anyone want to start a carrier-hawk shitposting mailring?


8468d5  No.12060250

>>12022212

>Our minds was ment

Your nigger mind was a mistake.


000000  No.12060669

>>12059556

This. Support open protocols with proper RFCs, the Internet was made by people submitting RFCs and it fosters inter-operation and flexibility.

Going from one web site to another just makes you an eternal serf.


c3a0f8  No.12060758

>>11976428

>We need an decentralized alternative to the internet.

No.

Leaving the internet is what they want you to do.

You have no control when you use someone's "platform". Start setting up your own hosts and software. 8chan lives because it self hosts.


0cfae5  No.12060762

I got a good Internet alternative: GO OUTSIDE


000000  No.12060805

>>12060758

This, host your own web site and services. One issue people run across is DDOS, which (((they))) use to get you onto Cloudflare and so on. One obvious solution is to use Zeronet or simply put your content up as torrents.


63a771  No.12066407

>>12060805

Zeronet is a bit slow, TOR/I2P, IPFS or Retorshare would do


c635d2  No.12068953

File: 21b04dc4215deb6⋯.jpg (47.01 KB, 540x552, 45:46, AndYouArentInsane.jpg)

>>12008747

This nigger understands.

> run quasi-legal company.

> Icelandic webhosting and email.

> All accessed via VPN.

> All corporate internal email never leaves icelandic jurisdiction.

> Police raided location, got nothing but dummy terminals.

> Not in jail because prosecutor had nothing to charge with.


000000  No.12069797

What about but sniffing. Dogs use it?


87e944  No.12069873

hi


6212ea  No.12070853

>>12068953

*sigh

You do realize 8chan is global, right?


a26501  No.12070940

File: b9d0d690e66ac89⋯.png (45.97 KB, 1022x500, 511:250, IPFSclientIllustration.png)

>>11976533

IPFS needs numerous pioneers. It can (and should) replace HTTP. If you want, you can go to neocities.org and get 1 Gigabyte of free disk space without giving them any identifying information. When I get some chores taken care of, I might start up an 8ch-themed IPFS blog and invite others to join me. But I suspect that the only takers will primarily be readers of /tech/ not readers of /pol/.


a26501  No.12070956

>>12044635

>there is progress in this area, pic related. $3000 right now, gotta add ram, a videocard, and a PSU to that…

I am not seeing a pic. Did you mean "Talon" or "SiFive" or something?


f83b0a  No.12070979

>>12022169

>gitgud.io

>>12070940

I like this a lot…I'm going over to /tech/ thanks to you…


95556d  No.12070990

>>12070940

I dont think another pol would be beneficial, the state of the current pol is bretty good.

is it technically possible to have ipfs nodes of 8chan? as i understand it it would not be possible but it would be great if it was.


0f96c8  No.12071003

>>11976647

This is how it'll be done when they shut off the internet. And it's a matter of when, not if. It's already been/being done routinely in the shithole countries.


2d2cb2  No.12071010

>>11976428

I will share what I know:

- No social media

- Startpage.com instead of google

- Hooktube.com + redirect userscript instead of youtube

- VPN on "normal" internet

- TOR

- Linux


95556d  No.12071042

File: 9796ac49f1087f8⋯.png (72.26 KB, 300x100, 3:1, banners.php.png)

repost, anon wrote this.

##############

ONLINE PRIVACY RISKS

##############

# Preface:

Ask yourself a question, how much do you really know about keeping your identity safe online? I’m smart enough to admit that I do not have the expertise to make definitive judgments about best practices which is why I am doing this write-up. I *want* holes poked in my ideas, there may be attack vectors that I have not considered. My professional background is not in security, at least not in the sense that would be assumed by this type of post. Now on to the meat of the subject, what are some risk factors that I do not see being discussed that I view as essential considerations?

Being secure is going to cost you time, money, but not necessarily a lot of either. The most important thing to remember is that even with a “perfect” system, you are your own worst enemy. Your identity is only as safe as you keep it. It is only as safe as it is separate from your online persona. If you use your personal gmail over TOR, you are exposing a link between your real identity and your online persona.

Any activities that are going to be performed that could result in a visit by "Law Enforcement" gangs should be separate from EVERYTHING else you do. It should not be understated that you should never, at any time, use closed source software(Windows/MacOS) while undertaking any activities frowned upon in your jurisdiction if you value your freedom. This includes running Windows as the host operating system and Backtrack/Tails/etc in a virtual machine, don't do it.

# Risks when using Windows:

1. Windows Update - How easy would it be for Microsoft, a known collaborator with the NSA, to collect:

a. MAC address (for all interfaces)

b. CPU serial number

c. motherboard/laptop serial number

d. make and model of your device

e. a copy of the ARP table

f. the list of saved SSIDs and MACs(does it save MACs?) from the network manager

g. Computer Name

h. the local broadcasting SSIDs with MAC addresses

For all we know, Microsoft already does some or all of this. None of this data specifically tells anyone who you are(Unless you make the hostname your real name, like any Mac OS machine will do by default), but it does a lot to tell them where you are. Item "h" is the most damning. If your local WiFi access points' MAC addresses are known, your location is likely known, unless you are in a very isolated location with all new access points that have NEVER been active in any more densely populated areas.

Given the previous statement, it would be prudent for you to physically REMOVE your wireless network card before even considering starting anything. It is an inconvenience, but also a big security risk. There are ways to still have wireless connectivity without this security hole.


95556d  No.12071044

File: 9c5a757bb6aadfe⋯.jpeg (46.9 KB, 456x612, 38:51, cat.jpeg)

repost, anon wrote this.

##############

ONLINE PRIVACY RISKS

##############

To demonstrate my point about the danger of WiFi, I searched for a video of someone using airodump on youtube. There are numerous tutorials and almost all of them will show the screen with bssids of all the local access points.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLO9HGDwOY0&t=129

Parameters passed to google (note the information in the string matches access points from the video):

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/browserlocation/json?browser=firefox&sensor=true&wifi=mac:C4-10-8A-36-80-A8|ssid:CL|ss:-19&wifi=mac:C4-10-8A-36-B8-D8|ssid:CL|ss:-30

The parameters google will return are a lat&long with accuracy confidence. I am not sure if it is meters of feet, but it really doesn’t matter for this. Punch those into google maps

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=29.4080785,+-98.4975053

Search nearby for *, this will give a dot for the building that is being pointed to, notice the business name Cevallos Lofts matches nicely with the SSIDs of CL.

This is just one example, search for “BSSID PWR Beacons #Data, #/s” on google and what you will find is numerous people posing the equivalent of GPS coordinates to their homes.

Consider the FOXACID attack by the NSA. What if it had executed and recorded the results of the command “netsh wlan show all” which does not trigger UAC? Go ahead, run it on your own Windows Vista or newer Windows machine. You will observe your own MAC address, your card make and model, and the details for all the local WiFi networks. Everything needed to identify where you were and which computer was yours

# Risks when using Windows:

2. Your antivirus software. Do you trust your antivirus vendor to not collect any of that same data when they update your definitions? In many cases, Microsoft is your antivirus vendor. Symantec is widely used in government computer networks, how hard would the NSA have to push for them to collect this type of information?

3. Any other piece of software on your computer. You have a lot of leak vectors from many entities with unknown affiliations and loyalties. The more software you run, the more vectors there are.

These same risks apply equally to Apple or any other major software vendor.


796641  No.12071408

Samizdat: I write it myself, edit it myself, censor it myself, publish it myself, distribute it myself, and spend jail time for it myself.


cb58f2  No.12075045

>>12070990

Treat IPFS/pol/ as an archive or /pdfs/, that will come in really handy

>>12071010

>startpage.com

Use searx.me or searx.ordoevangelistarum.com

>Hooktube

Use invidio.us since hooktube got pozzed

>>12071042

>>12071044

Nice


b0f9a2  No.12075108

>>12055017

He also had a bunch of funding from governments.


148512  No.12076962

File: 5babdd80a722301⋯.jpg (133.6 KB, 843x843, 1:1, 1499541930506.jpg)

>>11976533

>>11976623

>>12021767

>>12042556

>>12044069

A very good start.

Many of the earlier posts in here are focusing on very superficial problems (like worrying about particular corporate media outlets), or hoping that the system will fix the problem for them - conveniently ignoring the reality of lobbying.

If you want to eliminate censorable data, move away from websites and HTTP. If you want to eliminate censorable bandwidth providers, move away from ISPs and TCP/IP. As long as traffic can be owned, it can be controlled, and ultimately, censored.

>>12058497

>>12058497


ec3136  No.12077298

>>12060216

Butterfly war faggot?


c67a49  No.12077397

>>12044069

>A major problem, though, is that like all communication paths that are encrypted or otherwise difficult to track a person's location over, the meshnet will likely become a haven for pedophiles. Those fuckers just have to ruin everything.

I find it hilarious when he who claims to be liberated shows how much he is still a slave.


84e8de  No.12077434

A major problem with the beer hall approach is that you’ll have to interact and try to redpill/educate normies, and because every person here has an allergic, apoplectic reaction to the slightest whiff of making our message palatable or even digestible to them, no one has any idea how to strike a balance between hiding their power level completely or going full GTKRWN. If we could formulate some kind of plan or program to walk people through the ideas and concepts without triggering their mass media/education programming that shuts down their thought processes when they encounter wrongthink, beer halls would work wonders.


c176a0  No.12077494

File: 1069aa3029bb610⋯.png (301.23 KB, 758x691, 758:691, GetsMyNogginJoggin.PNG)

>>11976471

Once they seize control there's no freeing it. As we say about guns, from my cold dead hands, they will say about their control of the internet. They know free flow of information is working against them. China knew it from the beginning. I think it would be better to tear it all down and rebuild at that point. Thankfully we're not there, but headed there.

>>11976736

>>11977047

To add to the fuck discord, they're going to get subpoenaed to release the names of far-right people who went to UTR 1.0. Any service you use for communication either needs to be decentralized or be setup to protect your privacy.


9cebbd  No.12077546

File: 25cd524bc187046⋯.png (1.24 MB, 4576x4256, 143:133, We Remember Everything.png)

>>12077494

Some guy called me a reddit fag for making this .jpg but if they "turn off" internet or censor it completly, I will still have my redpill threads keeping me warm

>>12077434

If I had a steady income I would fill USB's with light redpills, easily digestible, put into envelopes and maybe go to postal office for mass lettering, or hire some young gen z boys wanting to make a few bucks drop in mailboxes


d32e27  No.12077577

Internet!=www

I see you propose Hamnet, but any packet switched network will replicate tcp/ip. Look into cjdns or i2p for the next 10 years.


d32e27  No.12077588

>>11976428

Internet!=www

I see you propose Hamnet, but any packet switched network will replicate tcp/ip. Look into cjdns or i2p for the next 10 years.


d32e27  No.12077591

>>12077434

Sargon is a stepping stone. Yeah, incoming the Puritans, but he is on the point.


d32e27  No.12077600

>>12071044

At this point: get an old LCD-HDMI and a PI-compatible clone and opsec between the fake normie machine and this. You'll enjoy the possibilities.


d32e27  No.12077607

>>12060230

Good. Let's build a gopher 8chan and let all middleware filters suck donkey dick.


d32e27  No.12077611

>>12059838

Who is Alex Jones?

Idiot.


d32e27  No.12077615

>>11976647

PR sucks because it is closed ware. Schade.


32b4a2  No.12079503

File: 7106a52b96df016⋯.jpg (19.45 KB, 458x324, 229:162, stronger_together.jpg)

I2P, if the internet is still up but censored.

Meshnet made of wifi routers if the internet is gone.

>>11976533

>How is IPFS?

IPFS is shit. What kind of fucking idiot downloads a shitload of unknown darkweb content onto their HDD?

I2P is the answer to our problem.


32b4a2  No.12079510

File: 4164a17ed2c75f7⋯.jpg (82.88 KB, 631x784, 631:784, 100_billion_rwds.jpg)

Also,

I2P will stress the internet (as will TOR) if we use it like we use today's internet. We will need to conserve bandwidth (imagine the dialup era) and focus on text discussion. There's a reason that chans on the dark-web are mostly text instead of images. (Images are still OK, but they should not be overused)

We should also be setting our tunnels to two hops, instead of three, to further conserve bandwidth.


aeb996  No.12079518

>>12079510

>100+ billion people

Wouldn't this also include niggers, jews, communists, sandniggers, and the such?


8b000d  No.12079537

>>12079503

>IPFS is shit. What kind of fucking idiot downloads a shitload of unknown darkweb content onto their HDD?

That is not how IPFS works retard.


889be9  No.12079550

>>12079503

IPFS does not work like that. Unless you WANT unknown darknet shit, you won't get it on your computer. Same as torrents.

>>12077546

>>>/redstick/ way ahead of you.

>>12077546

Will look into it


aeb996  No.12079583

File: 571120fd8cdaf6e⋯.png (1.43 KB, 281x18, 281:18, Guacman Vult.PNG)

File: 074b88d0d21e429⋯.png (9.4 KB, 351x112, 351:112, Big Guac For You.png)

File: 68daa9f91c5df39⋯.png (1.39 KB, 312x21, 104:7, BASED GUACMAN.PNG)

File: fe1fe5788a77df4⋯.png (1.57 KB, 354x20, 177:10, Most Intelligent Thing Gua….PNG)

>>11977087

Was it this time?


000000  No.12079658

>>12070990

>is it technically possible to have ipfs nodes of 8chan?

What you want is this project: https://github.com/smugdev/smugboard/


1f3be9  No.12079664

File: d4c84729084543b⋯.jpg (129.71 KB, 983x655, 983:655, assault backpacks.jpg)

testing the i2p with an image

I'm in TN, but my IP says I'm in Norway…


32b4a2  No.12079697

>>12079664

The most popular exit node is in Norway.

It also has a bridge to Tor, so you can type Tor addresses into your browser while on I2P and get to Tor.


32b4a2  No.12079710

File: 1a50fadc37b353f⋯.jpg (15.86 KB, 439x380, 439:380, atom_feels.jpg)

>>12079550

IPFS still DOWNLOADS anything you look at on IPFS.

This is unacceptable.

Decentralized hosting on I2P and Tor is much safer.


889be9  No.12079719

>>12079710

As I said, SAME AS TORRENTS. If you don't want it in the first place, keep it in RAM and delete it.

Are you saying that all these years BitTorrent has failed? It is meant to be fast for clearnet duplication, Learn 2 Tech.

You can't just P2P and expect TOR/I2P to come with it (Retroshare and IPFS OpenBazzar fork works though)


32b4a2  No.12079731

File: 72c211d66f15173⋯.jpg (12.07 KB, 255x191, 255:191, sergal_disapproves.jpg)

>>12079719

Then just use fucking torrents for torrenty things. We don't need a new fucking protocol that no one will use to replace torrents which everyone already uses.

We're talking about imageboards and other forms of communication.

You don't want a ton of CP on your hard drive because some faggot spammed the board with CP.


889be9  No.12079748

>>12079731

Because Torrents requires trackers, can't handle file redundancy (if the torrents needs to be updated the new torrent has a different hash), and it is very inconvenient to use when it comes to redpilling (no "one hash does the job").

Case in point: /g/entoomen library and murder/k/ube, those torrents has not been updated for the last five years with new books.

Also both Torrents and IPFS has file directories for you to select specific files to download.

>We're talking about imageboards and other forms of communication.

Smugboard was a mistake. IPFS is NEVER suitable for decentralized social media.


32b4a2  No.12079771

File: d3eb756e39cfe77⋯.jpg (6.68 KB, 217x164, 217:164, annoyed_wolf_sighing.jpg)

>>12079748

I2P does torrents, and every I2P Node ("I2P Router") is its own tracker.

Checkmate atheists.


889be9  No.12079784

>>12079771

Then applying this to IPFS like OpenBazzar would make things frictionless.


d32e27  No.12079851

>>11987299

The day a mesh enables me to access a mongolian basket waving board running in Chile I'll believe it's possible. Mesh's are only a local solution and for this you could just walk over and hand the disk just like that.


125bd9  No.12079857

>>11976563

From their website: "Motherboard has an excellent deep dive on Mastodon that discusses how the service works, and how it’s a “Nazi-free zone.” Notably, mastodon.social and many instances like it strictly ban "content illegal in Germany and/or France, such as holocaust denial or Nazi symbolism," as well as sexism, discrimination, and xenophobia."


d32e27  No.12079859

>>12079697

Wait, only do this with tor-browser and not chaining the tools or the exit node can read what you access on tor.


d32e27  No.12079860

>>12079857

Because local caches are in France and Germany. Make your own instance on tor and you can push whatever you want there.


d32e27  No.12079863

>>12079518

> Sandniggers

> Not extremely extreme

Well…


000000  No.12079870

>>12079710

>Decentralized hosting on I2P and Tor is much safer.

The problem with that is you can still get DDOSed through that, since you still have a single server and therefore single point of failure.


d32e27  No.12079872

>>12079510

What hinders you to only post text? No seriously, most don't use video while discussing politics or coordinating family dinners. Today it is still possible to use random titles for videos and link them directly. Makes finding content impossible and possibly data mining easier for them by correlation and cluster of like minded users, but fuck this. They know anyways - let's use their infrastructure as long as they allow this.


d32e27  No.12079879

>>12079870

This is where either good coding, Zeronet or a handcrafted cdn comes into play. Make only one session per user, in that one onion-address equals one session. IIRC a pure "waterfall" DDoS over tor is not possible.


125bd9  No.12079885

>>11976798

This is the gayest thing I've ever suffered through.


889be9  No.12079900

>>12079851

But not Chile to Mongolia, which is why it fails in the first place.

>>12079860

Local instance in Iceland, Norway, Russia, Japan or Taiwan.

>>12079870

>>12079879

And even IPFS people are finding ways around.

>>12079885

>>>/trannypol/ if you can't handle it


d32e27  No.12079906

>>12055304

>Winlink

https://winlink.org/ClientSoftware

Nothing is open source, correct?


d32e27  No.12079910

>>12079900

>And even IPFS people are finding ways around.

Huh, you mean ipfs has a DDoS-problem?


bf75e0  No.12079916

>>11976903

They're a shit fork of GNU social.


889be9  No.12079918

>>12079910

Low-seed files can be DDoSed out of existence, combining this with the mentioned CP problem it makes things tougher.

Low-trust and low-seeding combined with IP targeting, either by CP or by /pol/-v& like the ones in EU, leads to lost files.


889be9  No.12079920

>>12079916

UI wise it is the other way around. If you don't want SJWs try the pawoo fork from the Japs at Pixiv


d32e27  No.12079938

>>12077397

Spot the pedo. Compare the silk road to the tor gateway of facebook. A global mesh with five guys sitting on each continent is useless and a tool used by only a too specific subset of society is mostly dangerous, but definitely not sustainable. They built a onion-gate at Facebook. Now they regret it, but still hold it up for "NGOs". As if. But this shows that you can argue even as a pozzed entity against the general media tone if the specifics point to a good cause.

They now own all platforms culturally. Any innovation in decentralization will be defamed because muh Nazis scheming there [0]. Any group programming the next big shit has to be aware of the media going after them and from the beginning make appealing first impression sites with undeniably benign talking points.

[0] http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/04/mastodon-doesnt-have-nazis-yet.html


000000  No.12079965

>>12079918

Regarding the CP problem, I don't think it's necessarily a serious issue, no more than CP ending up in your browser cache through no fault of your own (something we have never seen prosecuted). That said, I should point out that it's already possible to use IPFS over TOR today, though it's not officially supported until they complete their security audit. You can find it at https://github.com/OpenBazaar/go-onion-transport

The point about files with few seeds being vulnerable to DDOS attacks is valid though, technically torrents of all sorts have this vulnerability. Thus it's important your site is somewhat popular. The more eyes on it the better the integrity of the network.


889be9  No.12080020

>>12079965

Wanna create an IPFS+TOR package for Arch or AntegrOS?


700a94  No.12080056

>>11976428

mesh-networking


889be9  No.12080077


d32e27  No.12080116

File: 8cdd35547074161⋯.png (764.7 KB, 2198x6222, 1099:3111, mastodon_feldmann.png)

>>12079938

nymag has an archive-problem.


d32e27  No.12080122

>>12079965

I thought ipfs specifically is immune to crowding out files.


d32e27  No.12080160

>>12046220

1. There is no dns monopoly. The problem are mobil platforms which enforce top down dns entries - most use poogle 8.8.X.X.

example: https://bit.namecoin.org/

2. Traffic correlation and analysis works surprisingly well. One can find out which news sites a user reads because they all have different bursts.

example: https://geti2p.net/en/blog/post/2018/08/20/NTCP2

There is a need for padding and obfuscation as proposed in NTCP2. Deployed systems have to sustain an increased load of bullshit traffic and false packets to render DPI useless.

3. Useful search relies on ordered content. That social soup made it impossible to find anything. There is a urgent need for a distributed site directory like yahoo had (still has?), paradoxically something like… the www already is. Strict adherence to RSS and semantic outlining could make google redundant. Alternative.to works better than senselessly searching with engines. Just a plain list. Have sites with lists of lists to evade the need for Google.


889be9  No.12080176

>>12080122

http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Crowding_Out

what? If you want incentive then Filecoin or ETH+IPFS would work, similar to Torrent+Joystream

Otherwise IPFS is just Torrent with better parity, and universal Trackers and TOR if we count OpenBazzar


d32e27  No.12080190

>>12080176

Hm, oke

t. learned something today.


889be9  No.12080240

>>12080190

I mean that vanilla IPFS has the same hash for the same file EVERYWHERE, and Universal Trackers for the whole web.

For the OpenBazzar fork, they have TOR support, so now you can "torrent" things like we are RetroShare from >>>/hypno/41015


4d120b  No.12080754

>>11976428

>>11976428

Briar? https://briarproject.org/

> put that shit on a unactivated burner phone

> leave plugged in at a high traffic location

> even if tor or internet is assblasted, can sync through bt and wifi


4d1a6b  No.12081675

File: 7d4aad400ed0a31⋯.png (86.33 KB, 846x512, 423:256, 2018-08-29-134803_2560x144….png)

I used the alternatives, apparently far earlier than most everyone else. And one thing to note is how antifa is literally everywhere. GNUSocial had antifa shit everywhere to the point the home page's feed was pro-immigration, bash the fash, anti-Trump sensationalism, or whatever garbage.

Also just trying out i2p and they're here too.


4d1a6b  No.12081692

>>12081675

Same goes for legionfags.

Anything privacy or decentralized oriented, you will come across legionfags and antifa.


be479f  No.12081878

>>12081692

Call them pedofaggots and ignore them then.


be479f  No.12081885

>>12080116

>>12079938

Mastadon and GNU Social and even Gab are too clunky and spread out to be of any real use.

I really wish someone could write a tech article without the soyfag virtue signalling…


be479f  No.12081900

>>12060216

>>12077298

>Posts the RFC for NNTP

Usenet. alt.politics.correct exists.

As previously pointed out here: >>12037445 and here:>>12044749


be479f  No.12081911

>>12077607

Just call our version of jughead search 'Jugears'


be479f  No.12081922

>>12079518

Those are demons. No soul. Not our ancestors.


cf78c6  No.12082195

>>11976471

go to freebird.is


76035c  No.12083163

>>11976537

Destroying the internet was always the best ending to Deus Ex anyway.


a56540  No.12083196

>>11987343

Why not just use heebs and piles of (now worthless) money?


4d1a6b  No.12084380

>>12081878

The problem is mainly how small instances of GNUSocial go from maybe 30% antifa shit, 65% linuxfag conversation, 5% whatever else to 95% antifa shit and 5% anything else.


000000  No.12085841

>>12084380

Twitters' the same way but right wingers love causing them to sperg out.

Use this to your advantage.


df042c  No.12085953

File: 8631e468cc5bbd5⋯.png (3.43 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, hackerman.png)

>>12060222

>>12060230

>They think 80/443 are the only ports.

For 99% of the people the WEB = INTERNET.

To grow your ideas and numbers you need to make access easy. There are people who may not be technical but they may be in positions of power, management, government, etc. They need to be redpilled. No new person is going to just up and install some program to access an alternate protocol. Sekrit underground clubs just stagnate and die.

(((They))) want you off the web. They want you out of sight under some rock.

Secondary access methods are fine but FIGHT to keep your websites.

No retreat. No surrender.


000000  No.12086408

Tor already exists; and everything can be made to work on it.

I2P already exists; and everything can be made to work on it.

I am connected to Tor from within I2P making this post right now. Muh 7-proxies maymay, Kek.

IPFS is attempting to recreate the wheel, only the wheel is square, and made of feces. (and made by niggers)


007fa6  No.12086654

>>11976526

>TAKE THEIR SOUL.

This is exactly what I though. I am hoping that they do take it. I won't be sitting around in my house anymore when it happens I will join a hunting team and get to work on the people we need to exterminate.


aeb996  No.12087268

>>12081922

Still counted as part of the 100 billion, aren't they?


889be9  No.12087655

>>12086408

IPFS > Torrents when it comes to parity (and no private trackers as everything is public).

See >>12080240

>>12084380

Pawoo's Mastodon fork > GNUSocial and Mastocucks TBH

>>12081900

Sounds like a good plan

>>12081675

ordoevangelistarum.com/chat > IRC (if Disc0rd UX is what you want)


1a41a5  No.12089755

>>11976645

>>12059556

They blockchain social media is the best route, because you can ban it, but it may be the mark of the beast because the blockchain records everything.


96cd4f  No.12089843

File: ab4d10b4a2d2ee9⋯.jpg (14.84 MB, 9999x9999, 1:1, d6e699e36cf295e866d42b6fd3….jpg)

You are aware that this website exists for the sole purpose of discrediting any actual decent arguments made here, right?

To most normalfags, most of the chans and the people here are seen as boogeymen. To the point where anything that comes from here is instantly discredited. A great way to control supposed free speech.

Watch how nothing will happen to imageboards, and how dataminers are king in the internet world.


0cdaa6  No.12091335

>>12089755

But always be aware of the ponzi schemes. This is why IPFS( without filecoin) is safe from the OpSec point of view.


b4bcbd  No.12093551

>>11976428

Mesh network is a functional theory.

It requires multiple anons (at least tens of thousands in each ~3000 mile radius connected with well guarded internet exit/entry points to other continents)

Remember, there is no alternative if the government totalitarians (mostly jews and jew puppets) win. They could use wifi/am jamming frequencies if they really wanted to, at that point.


aeac9c  No.12093644

FidoNet plus encryption.


48899d  No.12094910

>>12093644

Too low-tech


407410  No.12106592

Does anyone have the two posts by the guy claiming to be one of the six guccifer team talking about genius stuff and the cryptopocalpse? His posts were deleted. There were only two.


407410  No.12106654

File: f6d7a1dd7522d91⋯.jpg (4.73 MB, 1080x14085, 24:313, Screenshot_20180904-204315.jpg)

>>12106592

It was the wrong thread. Here's what I was looking for. Sage dblpst.


c17635  No.12106919

>>12089843

Well shareblue, CTR, JIDF and such are looking for us right now, we need an alternative to 8chan.


fc414f  No.12106956

>>12106654

If the threads still up, just link it and I'll gladly take a proper screenshot instead of this mobile bullshit. Makes my eyes fucking bleed.


1c7420  No.12107259

>>12106919

Mlpol.net no one will take it seriously.


3eac6e  No.12109403

>>12107259

Well OrdoEvangelistarum.com/chat would work


000000  No.12111584

>>12109403

Mein Gott, are you faggots so inept that you cannot figure out how to install I2P and connect your IRC client to localhost:6668

?

The clear web is full of normies and shitlibs. The darkweb is a secure place to make plans.


000000  No.12112145

Use:

>Firefox with all links removed from about:config (make a user.js)

>Linux without systemd, or Windows 7 with TinyWall, Ancile

>uMatrix - block everything except 1st party CSS and images

>startpage.com and searx.me

>A VPN

Do not use:

>Google

>Facebook

>Amazon

>Windows 8/10

>Intel

>Javascript

>Closed source software

>Any software without you yourself first verifying it is not phoning home - on Linux use "watch netstat -tnp", on Windows use TinyWall (It doesn't matter so much on Windows, because it will be blocked by TinyWall).


aa6c00  No.12112339

>>12112145

Is uMatrix better than using noscript. Also how do you make a user.js for your about:config tweaks? I like to remove WebGL and WebRTC from my browser too (which are protocols that can potentially expose your real IP).


000000  No.12112367

Caution TOR Browser

Each new install comes with Javascript enabled in NoScript.

Switch it to disable global and enable just case by case.

Recently a new version has been released, that resets the NoScript defaults back to global enabled!

>>12112339

>>12112145

>Is uMatrix better than using noscript.

Different purposes, use both.


2604a1  No.12112368

none


c17635  No.12117334

>>12111584

IRC is old-tech. Use something better.

Also TOR is full of antifags. http://syndicatetxz7cj5.onion/discorddump/


8578cb  No.12119571

>>12080160

I have researched search engine development and even started to catalog IP/Domains. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list of websites, not even godaddy can provide such a list. I started querying randomly generated http IP addresses, but it seems computationally unfeasible in that 80% of IP's are cloud servers, and it carries legal risks to scrape/crawl certain websites without first obtaining written permission. Still not sure what to do about that.


623cad  No.12120143

Thoughts on Osiris Serverless Portal System?


000000  No.12120699

>>12112339

Noscript is largely pointless, more convoluted. Just don't waste your time with it. The correct extension setup is:

>uMatrix (Your main interface for monitoring all connections to sites)

I'll give a quick explanation here. When you connect to a website your browser loads 8 things: >Cookie

>CSS (Page layout and formatting)

>Image

>Media (Video players)

>Script (commonly called javascript)

>XHR (Sends or recieves information, for example, to send a message, or recieve a new email)

>Frame

>Other

Nowadays it is rare to connect to a website that does not also connect you to other sites. For example, you can verify this yourself:

Visit https://www.dnsleaktest.com/ (Don't do this with your retarded setup or enjoy Google a(i)ds). Your browser will connect to Google to retrieve an image from maps.googleapis.com. You connecting to Google to load this image provides Google with:

>Your user agent (which browser/OS you are using)

>Your IP address (the address attached to your internet connection, giving an approximate physical location)

>The above information linked with the knowledge that you were looking at https://www.dnsleaktest.com/.

So you use uMatrix to block everything globally, except first party (meaning the actual site you're on) CSS and images. This means that you for each site, you enable what you need to get it working. You'll soon figure out what does what.

Since most sites are bloated garbage in this age, many will not work with javascript disabled. Fuck 'em. Enabling javascript is basically the equivalent of handing your fingerprint over to the site you're looking at (and any third party botnets like Facebook, Google, Twitter, Amazon, Linkedin etc, that the dumb fucking retards who created that site decided to add to it)

>Smart HTTPS (Loads all pages with HTTPS instead of HTTP. With HTTP your ISP (or the DNS server you are using, do not use your ISP's default DNS servers) can see every site you visit. With HTTPS your requests are encrypted, meaning that your ISP can see you visited shoah.com, but cannot see whether you are looking at shoah.com/goodgoy or shoah.com/badgoy)

>Decentraleyes (Lets you enable requests to sites such as ajax.googleapis, making the retarded sites that rely on these things usable, but without actually connecting to the site, instead using a local version, which I hope they are not downloading from something equally as privacy-infringing)

>CanvasBlocker (if you are not using Firefox. Set to "Block everything" or "Ask for permission". Prevents sites that use canvas tracking from getting a unique value based on your browser/OS/hardware that makes you almost completely identifiable, like an actual fingerprint)

Install your browser and set it up with addons with your internet connection disabled.

>how do you make a user.js for your about:config tweaks

Make a file, name it " user.js ", open Firefox, find help, troubleshooting information, open your profile folder, paste the " user.js" file inside.

https://zerobin.net/?a8b7ceaf20839586#tPcZhxh5UdcC2h8vYHCMFQ5u+XxepaQjPNmsDfZc+5o=

Above is all you need for that. This disables WebRTC, WebGL, etc.

There is a lot of information to learn, I can't possibly cover everything in one post.


844033  No.12120885

>>11976428

>The powers that be are cracking down on the internet and I fear we will soon find ourselves without a home online.

Your fear is misguided and only applies to shekel whores.

It's impossible to censor us. You'll always be named, jew.

"questioning the holohoax" is illegal in many countries.

Does that fact remove the ability in people to potentially do it anyway?

Of course not.

censorship only applies to shekelwhores who have to stay kosher.

I can name the jew all day.


844033  No.12120906

File: a81db09b506a2d4⋯.jpg (11.47 KB, 230x283, 230:283, at_first_i_was.jpg)

File: c27e6178bdfac2a⋯.jpg (101.47 KB, 678x900, 113:150, then_I_was.jpg)

File: eae7ba0673c8865⋯.png (558.23 KB, 750x536, 375:268, and_then_I_was.png)

File: 5f6932cda0c911f⋯.jpg (78.81 KB, 504x379, 504:379, and_then_the_larp_was_over….jpg)

File: 8fa48af037c082b⋯.jpg (275.47 KB, 971x924, 971:924, 8fa48af037c082b2798581fdcf….jpg)

Also

>Please use some faggoty ass alternative

Fuck no. I will tell Stacy Sixpack and Norman Normalfag on their funny cat video things like:

Numbers of jews gassed by national socialists since the alleged holocaust: 0. Zero.

Numbers of penises mutilated by jews since national socialist Germany: millions

Numbers of animals slaughtered with inhumane kosher slaughter practices since NatSoc Germany: probably billions.

Boycotts against domestic gentile trade with the kosher label and prerequisite for jewish patronage: countless.

Instances of masquerading as whites of European descent by ashkenazim for the purpose of race baiting and other sabotage: countless.

Resources drained from gentile nations and people, including the alleged saviors of the jews, the Americans: many, many billions worth.

Numbers of chickens waved around in the ritual of kapparot that transfers sins from the jew onto the chicken: probably billions.

Numbers of oaths and promises voided which whites take seriously and at face value via the ritual of kol nidre: countless since it happens every year at yom kippur.

Amount of antiwhite propaganda produced and aimed at even their alleged saviors: countless.

Amount of atrocities committed against gentiles: countless.

Amount of usurious FIAT currency created, peddled and cultivated by jews: a figure that doesn't fit inside this comment due to the sheer number of zeroes.

Amount of meddling in foreign affairs despite usually being only 1-5% of the population: nigh infinite

Amount of marxism, bolshevism, globalism etc: infinite

Amount of kvetching in general: infinite.

And many, many, many other things that happened after the alleged holocaust, including the lie itself and all the atrocities against whites derived from that.

Now to the important tally:

Number of worries about jews voiced by gentiles based on actual things happening like genital mutilation et cetera legitimized by jews and golems: 0

Number of worries about nazis actively hunting, killing, persecuting, gassing jews despite none of that happenin legitimized by jews and golems: as many as there are claims made.

tl; dr:

jewish fear of persecution, which they deserve due to their heinous acts and despicable nature but is, sadly, not happening is routinely legitimized.

Gentile fear of the degrading, parasitical, atrocious effect of the jewish race in the light of their many, many actions which they commit daily is stamped away as irrational.

Chutzpah is a mental illness, though, and whitey has long grown tired of this stupid game. Next time the table gets flipped, you'll wish for the lies about the holocaust because they will be considered heavenly in comparison to the fate this abomination of a race will face due to its own, never knowing when to leave well enough alone, actions.

I WILL SHIT ON YOUR JEWISH FACES IN PLAIN SIGHT EVEN IF YOU IMPLEMEMENT SIX GORILLION FILTERS

I WILL CALL YOU A FORESKIN MUNCHIN PARASITE UNDERNEATH A MITSUBISH ADVERT

I WILL TELL THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE BALFOUR DECLARATION AND LEO FRANK ON FUCKING DEBORAH FAKETANS BEAUTY VIDEOS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT YOU FILTHY FORESKIN FEASTING MUTANTS


f25ef3  No.12121330

Let's start to grow and sell weed, we will then get used to heat, make money and make a network in the "underworld"

Then we start to sell weapons to our new contacts in the "underworld" with the goal of being the go to for illegal weapons in our area. We keep growing our busseniss until we meet high up in the weapons trade in some years:)


000000  No.12121671

>>12076962

Ham radio is the only practical solution so far, one could arrange local high-speed networks using the high Wifi channels in the ham bands with much more power than consumer equipment is allowed, and bridge these "islands of broadband" with multiple long-haul, lower bitrate radio links. The FCC already approved a rule waiting to go in to effect which tweaks the data mode rules for HF from a certain symbol rate (aka baud, 2400 is what it is now) to a certain bandwidth transmission which will lead to better modems and higher bandwidth. The theoretical bit-rate limit for a 3 KHz wide transmission is in the megabytes per second but it would require a really fancy modulator / demodulator.

The real current day darknet is currently accessed by bouncing radio waves off the moon with highly directional antennas. Why do you think old Ham Nellie got licensed? It was a Deep State admission that the Internet is fully owned.


11fe57  No.12122443

>>12121330

degenerates get the gas

>>12120885

>>12120906

newfags can't into HWNDU, infodump and /pdfs/

>>12120699

This guy gets it. /tech/ always know


f25ef3  No.12122523

i see where you are coming from, but look: /pol/ goes down, anons start "weed plant", best anons make it to the higher levels of the illegal weapons trade, and meet other anons who made it. anons are now organised criminals. to get this far you will have to establish means of communication, and protect your self at all times against hostile criminal elements, state, police ect. Meaning you are now para military units operating out of the shadows>>12122443


f25ef3  No.12122549

>>12122523

Europa needs guns so not get genozided and white America can help with this, so why don't you?


000000  No.12122566

Only decentralisation will fix things. I hope people make up their minds soon, it's easy in theory but the difficult part is adoption. Yet if done right can be amazing, like another golden age of the internet before web 2.0 faggotry.


11fe57  No.12122617

>>12122523

>>12122549

Don't fedpost.

>>12122566

Are you ready for blockchain and web3.0?


f25ef3  No.12122884

>>12122617

Blockchain is the beast system, it is created by AI to better AI as the network grow bigger, working like synapses of the brain, to create GAI.

Bitcoin alone, now use more electricity than Switzerland.

Future of goy will be slavery peddling a bicycle generator to substain the AI with electricity.


11fe57  No.12122958

>>12122884

what is this bait? I mean Sia can be used for decentralized storage, and we can make a jew-free network with blockchain if we can get pass the logo stage.

AI sounds good… until you realized most datasets are shit and is basically kiked


ceba47  No.12123662

>>11976428

>>11976471

anarchists are already working on this, but, of course, failing bc they're talentless.

No Discord – Use IRC – for decentralized IRC, Matrix

No openweb – Use I2P

No internet connection? – mesh networks → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

there are already some pretty large mesh networks in high density high h'white areas, but how well they work is anyone's guess. Another option is making a non-profit that has a FCC license in order to broadcast a wifi signal throughout the city in order to provide a low-cost (no censorship) ISP.

>inb4 it can't be done

it literally was done in a little college town in the midwest. i used it, and i was told they were doing it all over the country. that was like 20yrs ago, tho, so idk if anyone is still doing it


26a74d  No.12123686

>>12123662

>Use IRC

Baaaaaaaaaaaad NIGGER advice!


ceba47  No.12123797

>>12123686

>niggers use IRC

go home shlomo

>>12122617

>muh fedpost on imageboards

stfu or i'm going to go over to this kike's house (probably your cousin) three doors down and shoot him in the face with this loaded Glock19 I have in my hand right now… i just cocked it. make my day


08c089  No.12123805

The alternative to the internet is we cut the power to every major city


606ffb  No.12123808

>>12123797

You should be arrested. for your shit taste in funs


26a74d  No.12123959

>>12123797

You are right. They are wiggers, not niggers.

What's wrong with IRC? Well, all of the servers share comprehensive IP lists and logs with the worst of SJW. Hell, they do that (((here))) as well, so everything (((here))) goes to (((them))), both the irc, but also the boards - all of the boards.

Worthless trash: all things which invite even, even invite, lack of anonymity or at minimum pseudonymousness without tracking.


f53210  No.12123993

>>11976798

fuck off murdoch go back to halfchan kike faggot


dab319  No.12124568

File: e662f0307dd1777⋯.jpg (12.66 KB, 400x165, 80:33, 53503113v9_400x400_front_c….jpg)

>>12044069

>Meshnets make it much more difficult for (((them))) to restrict access, because, by design, the meshnet should have hundreds of viable paths through which to send the packets. Literally the the easiest way that a website accessible over a meshnet can be cut offline is if all nodes in the vicinity of the meshnet are taken down. This is possible, but if all pertinent data in the packets are encrypted, then it's virtually impossible to determine the contents of the packets, and so ZOG would have to at least resort to some legal bullshitery to justify a search and destroy operation of meshnet nodes.

this

>A major problem, though, is that like all communication paths that are encrypted or otherwise difficult to track a person's location over, the meshnet will likely become a haven for pedophiles. Those fuckers just have to ruin everything.

no encryption. HAM radio communications can not be encrypted. It works for us…not for ZOG. ZOG needs encryption to operate.

>>12044635

>…but the price should come down. My hope is that they'll get it down to Raspberry Pi levels, or at least < $200 for a fully-functional PC.

Why not use Raspberry Pi ? or similar with open source processor ?

When SHTF network (mesh) will be slow at start. We do not need fast processors…look at 8ch…it can work on Raspberry Pi

When SHTF we create small mesh nets. Then we connect then either over existing links over internet or directly. We start small and build it up. Internet as idea is great. we use this idea but keep control over it

>>12055304

>nobody has really solved the trunking issue for inter-area connections.

we use existing optical fibre. Either by controlling it directly or by point-to-point connection between nodes over existing internet. They can shut down access to server but (((they))) are not shutting down communication between different nodes on the network. It is all good (((they))) are shutting them self's down from internet and closing in walled gardens

>>12055320

>NOT Windows dependent.

correct. nothing win dependent. it can work on win but it can not depend on win. everything has to be open source.

>>12060216

>What if I told you it was possible to build a new internet using the old internet.

This, internet is collection of networks. If (((they))) do not want us on their servers we build out own servers. Like in old days.

Problem is IP addresses. (((they))) are changing them constantly and that is a reason why more people do not host their own server. But, there is private set of IP addresses that can be used for private networks.


dab319  No.12124573

>>12079965

>Regarding the CP problem

There would be no CP problem. We will take care of it. like we have been taking care of it


dab319  No.12124644

File: 651a16a981b9741⋯.png (181.08 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, main-qimg-98153fbb0fbfc451….png)

>>12085953

>To grow your ideas and numbers you need to make access easy. There are people who may not be technical but they may be in positions of power, management, government, etc. They need to be redpilled.

Everyone who wanted to take a red pill has already taken it. Those who did not taken it have consciously decided not to take red pill. It is (((their))) decision. And it should be respected.

>(((They))) want you off the web. They want you out of sight under some rock.

no, (((they))) want us of their server because we are virus that is spreading. (((they))) are trying contentment. We should let them do it

>Secondary access methods are fine but FIGHT to keep your websites.

it is becoming difficult.

>No retreat. No surrender.

yes of course. But there is also no point in imposing something (up)on someone. it is rude and unnecessary

>>12093551

>Mesh network is a functional theory.

nope, it is functioning in practice. When you are connected to wi-fi router with your phone that is mesh network. But, it is intentionally not configured with full capability's


dab319  No.12124680

File: f46d688f7329677⋯.jpg (54.95 KB, 1050x551, 1050:551, patent-6630507-US-governme….jpg)

>>12121330

>We keep growing our busseniss until we meet high up in the weapons trade in some years:)

you mean (((them))) ? Who do you think owns weapons businesses ? Or drug businesses ?


dab319  No.12124688

>>12122549

>Europa needs guns so not get genozided and white America can help with this, so why don't you?

There is shit load of guns in europe. There is a problem with access to those guns.


f25ef3  No.12124794

>>12124680

That's on the highest level, should anyone get that high up some useful info will get ubtained. If not you will propaply get some useful info from lower level actors.


f25ef3  No.12124818

>>12124688

Hunting rifles and shotguns.


103a37  No.12125674

>>12123959

matrix is completely decentralized and open source so no servers have any info whatsoever

https://matrix.org/blog/home/

also use a vpn and anonymous email for registration dipshit

>>12123808

lol true


26b8fe  No.12125780

File: 8cbcca9f73e5f83⋯.jpg (150.37 KB, 1280x1440, 8:9, realpepe.jpg)

real life


ceba47  No.12125814

>>12125744

>we're free, where do we register

that's just if you want to namefag. i don't know of any IRC that forces you to register, though there are certain channels where you can't go (most are gay af anyway) and, of course, you can't hold ops (unless someone with ops gives you ops every time you join the channel)

most of us have a serious profile (or several more or less serious profiles/personas) for shit like that, but do most of our posting through non-registered nicks. if you use a terminal-based client, its nothing to have several profiles open at the same time, even on a shitty laptop. if you're super security conscious, then use VMs all connected through different VPN nodes in order to fake like each of your nicks is actually a different person

>>12125754

>Tox seems the best thing going, right now

i thought they stopped development on tox. also, someone was saying something about the protocol being fucked for some reason. Ricochet.im automatically uses tor, and you can use Pidgin (with OTR) in order to have one client that consolidates all your normalfag accounts (if you're a huge homo and have normalfag accounts)


7e9e4c  No.12125839

>>12044635

isn't the problem with linux that any distro can be hijacked by hostile actors that are interested in embedding malware. It is open source but nobody really looks at the code.


ceba47  No.12125914

>>12125839

>isn't the problem with linux that any distro can be hijacked by hostile actors that are interested in embedding malware

not any more than winblows or gOySX. in fact, much less so. there's a reason why the backbone of the internet – the vast majority of world servers – runs on linux. your android OS is also linux btw

also this >>12125870


54c0ef  No.12125929

>>12123662

Would someone be willing to give a 2 minute explanation or a pro/con list of mesh networks? Because I'd rather NOT waste my time reading wikipedia articles if I can get it from a non pozzed source here.


7e9e4c  No.12125953

>>12125914

I would trust an operating system made by the chinks more than I trust anything from Silicon Valley. wish the chinks would make their own os


54c0ef  No.12125969

>>12125953

As soon as a linux distro learns to cater to normie retards and gaymers, we won't really have to worry about OS stuff. Until then though, we're hosed.


54c0ef  No.12126009

>>12125975

I admittedly haven't tried Ubuntu in years, but when I mean catering to normie retards I mean REALLY catering to normie retards. Basically until someone can use an .exe without figuring out how to use WINE it's not gonna happen. Unless your 90 year old grandma can work it, most niggers can't.


11fe57  No.12126141

>>12123797

You don't need to be resentful of loosing your foreskin, schlomo.

>>12123808

>>>/oven/ for you too WEW

>>12123993

Oh hi >>>/trannypol/ how is the butthurt?

>>12124688

>>12124818

Weak.

>>12125674

Well said. >>12125744 does not understand that even /pol/ need to purge people in their communications sometimes.

>>12125814

IRC requires registration as well (Rizon, Freenode)

>>12125839

At least everything is transparent, Windows is kiked, OSX is kiked.

>>12125929

Pro: hard to knock down one by one, can be easily set up

Con: Signal jamming kills them all, possible trust and MITM issues, wastes lots of resources to have multiple nodes


54c0ef  No.12126144

File: 3132fbb8d2d3244⋯.png (425.39 KB, 600x481, 600:481, 980.png)

>>12126041

>>12126037

It's not entirely about games. believe it or not gaymers don't make up the majority of computer users Hence why macOS is so popular it's mostly people that don't entirely know what the fuck they're doing but just want to get shit done without looking shit up, just something as dumbed down as possible. Hense why macOS is so popular

Also

>Trusting Gaben to not jew us over once he's inside our OS.


11fe57  No.12126178

>>12126159

So you can't OpSec. Great. We have a case of lone wolf Elliot Rodger here


54c0ef  No.12126181

>>12126159

No one would be "in charge" it would be decentralized. That's kind of the entire point of linux distros if you think about it. No ONE person/company/whatever controls the software. If a group wants to take it and run in a totally different direction with it they can. All I'm saying is we should be petitioning the ether of austism for a better OS, not Daddy Gaben.


ceba47  No.12126187

>>12126009

>Basically until someone can use an .exe without figuring out how to use WINE

you can't do that on OSX and its still really popular with normalfags. Ubuntu at this point is just as easy, with perhaps the exception of some gaming

>>12125953

>chinks spend massive amounts of time and money developing an OS for American consumers

>you should definitely trust it; nothing could be awry, here

>>>/leftypol/

>>>/retard/

>>>/gaschamber/

>>>/oven/

>>12125929

>pro/con list of mesh networks

from what perspective? hypothetically, a mesh wifi network like i was referring to could route many ppl's traffic through just a few actual internet connections, thereby saving tons of money. it could also circumvent certain types of censorship, like if you're personally targeted by your ISP (something i haven't heard of… yet). likewise, assuming no one is logging and the glowniggers don't have access to the routers (BIG assumptions, but plausible) then it would also provide a certain amount of anonymity esp if combined with onion/garlic routing

either be more specific or read the wiki article bc i'm not exactly sure what you're asking

>>12126141

>IRC requires registration as well (Rizon, Freenode)

neither Rizon nor Freenode REQUIRES registration to interact with channels on their servers. registration is only so you can disconnect from their servers without losing your nick/ops

t. someone who is on those two networks right now


ceba47  No.12126219

>>12126159

>Who's in charge?

of what? this is how IRC used to ALWAYS operate from the beginning. ad hoc networks. the first person into a channel (ie. channel founder/creator) gets ops. they get to chose who has ops after that. if you leave, you lose sucker. Matrix has a built-in bouncer system iirc, so you never have to leave, tho. or, you could just stop being a faggot and set up your own server, or pay for a VPS or whatnot since they're not very expensive. idk even what you're trying to argue at this point. if you're not retarded, please explain yourself

>>12126197

>>12126199

what are you, fucking retarded? have you processed even one word that i've written?


11fe57  No.12126227

>>12126219

The bouncer system is a feature to prevent infiltration, and IRC is for broadcasting and lone-wolf operations


11fe57  No.12126245

>>12126239

Even if you use it through TOR it is not secure-comm for Ops, just a place for shitposting


ceba47  No.12126271

>>12126227

>IRC is for broadcasting and lone-wolf operations

as opposed to…?

>>12126235

t. doesn't know what an argument is

>>12126239

stop double-posting you retarded nigger. also…

>too retarded to realize that since Matrix is decentralized, it has no "server"

>so stupid it still believes you have to register to post in IRC

>doesn't realize you can't track someone who regularly changes their IP, nick and behavior patterns

>rants about IRC privacy concerns while posting on an imageboard known to track users and leak information

>such an idiot, doesn't recognize the irony of the former

>>12126245

there is no such thing as a secure-comm for (group) Ops. but, if you mean one-on-one IRC will work fine as you can use OTR for PMs and thereby hide your data from the server


54c0ef  No.12126275

>>12126187

>be more specific

How exactly would mesh networks fix not having an internet connection? Would it require new infrastructure and if so how much would it cost? How secure is it overall? What are it's major security concerns? Would there be any way to fix those issues? How easily would it be censored? Would there be any speed issues?

Y'know the important stuff.

>>12126245

>Even if you use it through TOR it is not secure-comm for Ops

Holy shit really? That's fucking boinzos.


11fe57  No.12126284

>>12126271

>as opposed to…?

Matrix or other group E2E chat that works.

>there is no such thing as a secure-comm for (group) Ops

There is one in Matrix, but it require prior trust between parties.

> if you mean one-on-one IRC

Pretty useless since it is not a group chat, unless you think "The Telephone Game" is good for Ops communication between 3+ people.


11fe57  No.12126306

>>12126288

> Not using Matrix

>Relying on Discord, Twitter DM, kikebook, steam chat and (((tox)))

>>>/oven/


ceba47  No.12126335

>>12126275

>How exactly would mesh networks fix not having an internet connection?

(1) locally, this should be obvious. as long as there's an unbroken chain of routers, then those computers can communicate

(2) globally? well, hypothetically you could create a brand new internet by expanding (1), though crossing over sparsely populated areas or oceans or what have you could be a problem

>Would it require new infrastructure and if so how much would it cost?

iirc the anarchists are just doing it using old ddwrt routers

>How secure is it overall?

i don't know that i can give a good answer to this. see next

>What are it's major security concerns?

pretty much the same as any network. if you're using wifi then you have all the problems associated with that, like the fact that you're broadcasting data to anyone who wants to listen, even if encrypted. after that, you have the whole decentralized vs centralized argument ie. are you more worried that one "bad actor" might pwn you by giving your data to the police or whoever, or are you worried those fuckers will take advantage of the decentralized structure of the mesh network and infiltrate it? one good thing is that if you suspect someone hypothetically you could blacklist them from handling any of your communications

>Would there be any way to fix those issues?

strong encryption. better accountability and transparency structures. using ethernet cable where you can and strong encryption where you cannot.

>How easily would it be censored?

this is the big selling point: censorship would be practically impossible, assuming a "thick" and "wide" enough network and a some level of noncompliance (either through solidarity, apathy, or lack of knowhow) with censorship efforts among the general population. someone could try to jam your node if you're operating through wifi, but its pretty infeasible to do so for any significant amount of time.

>Would there be any speed issues?

it depends on how far you're going and what you're trying to use it for, and also the sort of software that you're using. hypothetically, ppl could start stringing up their own fiber optic cables and create a whole new internet that's just as fast. or, if you're just taking a few hops through wifi to get to the router that's connected to the ISP, then the lag would be in the milliseconds iirc, so not noticeable at all. if you're all just checking your email, then you're probably fine, but if you're all streaming netflix at the same time, then there's the very real possibility of overloading the system.

this last question is very dependent on what equipment your working with, the network topography, what you're trying to use it for, etc

>>12126284

>Matrix or other group E2E chat that works

no, i meant as opposed to broadcasting/lonewolf, not opposed to IRC

>There is one in Matrix, but it require prior trust between parties

there is no such thing as secure communication that does not require prior trust between parties, by definition

>unless you think "The Telephone Game" is good for Ops communication

i don't think the internet is good for ops communication, generally, if anything you're doing is illegal or even socially questionable. if you're just planning posting fliers or some shit then a private room in IRC works just fine, perhaps in addition to leetifying some keywords that might trigger red flag algorithms

>>12126288

>making categorical statements with no reasoning or evidence

>not knowing what an argument is

also

>>12126306

this


11fe57  No.12126368

>>12126335

> there is no such thing as secure communication that does not require prior trust between parties, by definition

Which is why vetting and IRL meeting exists.

> if you're just planning posting fliers or some shit then a private room in IRC works just fine

Still better in things like Matrix because Antifa are hellbent on doxing the shit out of the right if you give them the chance, having a vetting or vouching model makes things safer. See: UnicornRiot


fd8e5f  No.12126426

>>12124644

>Everyone who wanted to take a red pill has already taken it. Those who did not taken it have consciously decided not to take red pill. It is (((their))) decision. And it should be respected.

You can't unlearn a truth, a friend of mine was always up to date on world events and I was very impressed. I asked him where he got his info from and he sent me to cuckchan. I stumbled upon this gem by typing /pol/ into duck duck go. I was as bluepilled as it gets. The only people who don't take the red pill are people who literally have no internal monologue when they think. Literally they have the same thought process as your dog. I think the best thing is to be a walking virus and do your best to redpill others around you. My work is now filled with dudes who swallowed the JQ and see the world for what it is. They are redpilling their friends. This works like leaderless resistance, 1 becomes 3, 3 becomes 9, so on and so fourth. Just have facts at the ready and those who are worth a damn will see the light. If the kikes can brainwash thousands with a steady stream of repeated lies you can unwash them with a solid undeniable fact. I was lost and it took a good man to take a minute out of his day to show me the light. you all must do the same!


ceba47  No.12126511

>>12126368

>Which is why vetting and IRL meeting exists

what's the point of this comment, just to attempt to say something that sounds like the opposite of what i said?

>Antifa are hellbent on doxing the shit out of the right

i still fail to see how you're going to get doxed on IRC by antifa while using a temporary nick, a new IP, a private channel and, perhaps if you like, a few obvious, natural codewords. But, yeah, Matrix would be better, of course.

I honestly don't know what you're on about. I think perhaps you and I have different ideas about what constitutes planning Ops, especially in the internet setting, and how that works and plays out. if you want a high-trust, high-discipline, hierarchically managed organizational structure, then good luck because you're bound to lose. political action is more like espionage than warfare, even guerrilla warfare. there's a reason that the IC operates in cells, nobody knows anyone else or their business, etc etc. the internet provides a way of enhancing this part. you should never be talking openly or allowing yourself to be known by lots of people.

if you're looking for a social club, join the shriners or the YMCA or some shit. if you truly want to engage in political action – if you're truly committed to changing shit – then get all ideas of normalfaggotry out of your head. you will never live a normal life. that is over. you have to learn to live as an intelligence agent in hostile territory


11fe57  No.12126532

>>12126511

>what's the point of this comment, just to attempt to say something that sounds like the opposite of what i said?

I am saying that doing such a thing is necessary for operation, from picking the right people to keeping everything secret to the in-group.

>i still fail to see how you're going to get doxed on IRC by antifa while using a temporary nick, a new IP, a private channel and, perhaps if you like, a few obvious, natural codewords

As I said, gatekeeping is a layer of security worth wasting time on.

> if you want a high-trust, high-discipline, hierarchically managed organizational structure, then good luck because you're bound to lose

High trust and high discipline? Yes. Hierarchical? Not necessary. Because one jackass who makes a wrong move spoils the plan.

> political action is more like espionage than warfare, even guerrilla warfare

Still you have to keep communications hidden from the outside, not someone who can tap in willy nilly.

> if you're looking for a social club, join the shriners or the YMCA or some shit.

Local. Beerhall. It. Worked. Before. But how do you digitize it, is where Matrix, Ring and other encrypted software comes in.

> if you truly want to engage in political action – if you're truly committed to changing shit – then get all ideas of normalfaggotry out of your head. you will never live a normal life. that is over. you have to learn to live as an intelligence agent in hostile territory

Of course (but not that dramatic), but does that imply you are here just to shitpost instead of getting things done? Or are you one of those newfags or /trannypol/ who are just trying to stir sh*t up?


ceba47  No.12126559

>>12126532

>I am saying that doing such a thing is necessary for operation

no its not. its simply not. there is no such thing as an in-group in espionage, not like you mean

>gatekeeping

there's no effective gatekeeping in espionage, only OPSEC

>communications hidden

things shouldn't be communicated at all unless completely necessary

>local beerhall worked before

so did arrows and swords, and before that sticks and rocks, but times change. the enemy has changed

>inb4 you just said no one should ever meet in a beerhall that's stupid

that's not what i said, and you damn well know it

>always turning everything into an sentence-by-sentence argument

disgusting. you have no actual social skills, do you?

>inb4 …

that was rhetorical

>if I call him a newfag/lefty/shill/etc then i win!

how very newfag of you. considering you clearly have no understanding of the operations we've been running on h8/pol/ for almost 5 yrs, and elsewhere (including IRC!!!) for the last 15yrs (and others older than me for much, much longer), it seems to me that you're the newfag, newfriend. I honestly don't think I even know what you mean most of the time bc your perspective seems so ill-informed about the nature of how effective political action is put together, and/or how it has been put together on the so-called dissident right recently.

or, perhaps i'm wrong and we're just speaking too much in generalities or poorly defining our terms. perhaps at base we mean the same thing but only think we disagree. its hard to tell


11fe57  No.12126601

>>12126559

> there is no such thing as an in-group in espionage

I don't think we are just dealing with ONLY espionage but a whole host of other topics just as propaganda distribution (see Redstick and IOTBW) and public disruption (HWNDU to some extent, though embarrassingly), it is the out group or enemy that are using espionage against us.

> there's no effective gatekeeping in espionage, only OPSEC

There is when dealing with human resources, the artists who makes posters and art, the programmers who datamines the enemies and find their weaknesses, the "journalists" who monitors people IRL, all these things require some organization to kick off a project.

> things shouldn't be communicated at all unless completely necessary

You are stating the obvious but did not say "what" are unnecessary.

> so did arrows and swords, and before that sticks and rocks, but times change. the enemy has changed

But the underlying principles are still the same, we are still dealing with the problem of "How can we have operations while not letting others know that we are doing".

> you clearly have no understanding of the operations we've been running on h8/pol/ for almost 5 yrs

I have been here for 5 years in 8/pol/ as well, so I do understand that some who works in monitoring want to work anonymously like SHG Nacht, and some who works in the propaganda side of things do so in teamspeak/mumble, IRC (burgersandfries), Twitter DMs (color cabal), Google+ (streamfags) (and yes I know some are pozzed)


dab319  No.12126778

File: 9fe3a8f2a707f77⋯.jpg (50.48 KB, 400x400, 1:1, butbutbut.jpg)

>>12126335

>but if you're all streaming netflix at the same time, then there's the very real possibility of overloading the system.

but..but…we can use private range of IP addresses

Private network addresses are not allocated to any specific organization and anyone may use these addresses without approval from a regional Internet registry. However, IP packets addressed from them cannot be routed through the public Internet.

Then everybody can have their own IP addresses…their own server…and there is no need for netflix (or similar things). you use torrent server to get from local network any content you want. There is no need to have content provider for streaming. Also, there is no need to pay for it.


ceba47  No.12126863

>>12126601

a diversity of tactics is key, but what you're talking about is still essentially espionage. and, i still think you're thinking in more or less hierarchical terms (what "we" are doing; "our" "operations") and, perhaps the biggest mistake of the dissident right for some time now, thinking in conventional terms – mimicking the tactics of the left. beerhalls and all that worked because they operated within local high-trust communities and were easily able to fly under the radar of what, at the time, was a very small and weak State apparatus. what we're dealing with now is an expansive surveillance state, and the dissident right would do well to stop fetishizing the NSDAP etc and start reading thinkers like Foucault and adjusting tactics accordingly. newer tactics that have been adopted like stopping the "alt-right" specific rallies and blending in with MAGApedes for networking are positive steps forward, but re-thinking OPSEC from traditional WWII military terms and translating that into digital space is, i think, key. so, for instance, instead of "vetting" you congregate in ways that don't expose you to risk – a key strength of using the internet. instead of security through exclusion, you have security through obscurity. instead of having a tight-knit, highly disciplined group of operative that can act in concert, you have a loosely affiliated, horizontally networked system of actors and groups that can act and dissolve quickly, only to reform again (as in the guerrilla warfare of forest tribes as opposed to roman legions)

most importantly, you have to realize that your tactic is precisely to do what the State has been doing to the population all along: Destroy, Deny, Degrade, Deceive, Disrupt etc. After all, its THEM that has to hold a ruling coalition together. It is THEM that are hellbent on imposing (their) order. Cede them the organizational ground because they already have it anyway, and they have nearly unlimited resources to hold and protect it. In fact, not having it means not existing for them, by definition. That's your weak point. Exploit it

What's most amazing about the new dissident right, to me, is everything they do screams anarchism, but they don't realize it. Operation Redstick is perhaps pretty tradition propaganda dissemination, can't credit anarchists there (and i'm not a huge fan of the op tbh). But, IOTBW was fairly straight forward "Culture Jamming." But the main strategy of using MemeMagick to take an undifferentiated, seething revolutionary mass and focus it toward certain targets, the anarchists call "Platformism." We even formed small cadres (usually ad hoc, on the fly – "Spontaneous Order," a main tenent of Anarchism) of MemeMagicians who planned ops to spread the ideas in imageboards. Contrary to the popular belief, the main object of Mememagick has been the imageboard goers themselves (lol), not "the normies" – or at least, it was first the imageboard kiddies, then they were trained and mobilized to hit the normalfags. The HWNDU trolling and stealing of the flag etc is reminiscent of the Situationists' flash mobs and other pranks. Much of the twitter trolling, comment section fuckery, etc reminds me so much of Operation Mindfuck (the main Discordian "religious practice") that its spooky. Fuck, even the term Happening is an old free form anarchist hippie art term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happening

And, without even knowing it, these silly bastards are worshiping an ancient deity who is described almost to the letter just as Eris is described in the Prinicipia Discordia (as opposed to her personage in Greek Mythology). Its fucking mind-blowing. Now, if you all would just understand that you're using old anarchist tactics and actually act accordingly, all the while remembering that you have to upgrade it for the internet age, then you'll be unstoppable. You probably already will/are. At least, after all these "Alt-Right" leaders finally admitted that C'ville was a mistake and decided to "go back to the old tactics" I'm much less worried. Let's put it that way. I have high hopes.


b06ba9  No.12126870

>>12126778

If you want website you're going to need some sort of registry or DNS or your new "internet" is going to be unusable.


ceba47  No.12126884

>>12126863

(continued)

The point is you have to stop thinking in High Modernist terms, if that makes sense. You need to think like an anarchist, think in postmodern terms, tactically (perhaps as opposed to philosophically) speaking. That's probably going to be difficult for a dissident right group, but it'll reap benefits beyond your wildest dreams. Or, just do the traditional "conservative" thing and keep your head down while making a whole bunch of money so you can mobilize it when you get old against those you've wished you could attack the whole time. That's always needed. But, political tactics at this stage imho should be using your strong points (obscurity, diffuse, creative, mobile, malleable) in order to use your strengths (trolling, hacking, flaming, lulzing) to break down the enemy's main strengths and tactics (organization).

in short, stop thinking in terms of building organizations and start thinking in terms of destroying them

>>12126778

>you use torrent server to get from local network any content you want

yes, indeed. i thought that went without saying. but, you still have to dl those torrents in the first instance, so you all have to make sure you're not doing that all at the same time. or if the movie i want is on your PC and the one you want is on my PC etc etc you may not be able to transfer all of that at one time. my point is, a network based upon niggerrigging a bunch of old shitty wifi routers together may run into some bandwidth limitations, especially if you're having to build the mesh network around normalfags who aren't participating and therefore may develop some bottlenecks. that's why, in the end, i said:

>this last question is very dependent on what equipment your working with, the network topography, what you're trying to use it for


dcb8e7  No.12127058

>>12075045

what's wrong with startpage?

>hooktube got pozzed

how


6f87d5  No.12128931

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>>12126870

>If you want website you're going to need some sort of registry or DNS or your new "internet" is going to be unusable.

only if you want domain names. A DNS, short for domain name system, is used to resolve a particular domain name to its IP equivalent. Domain names (e.g. 8ch.net) are simply used to be more easily read / remembered by humans, however, all domain names are associated with a particular IP address. This can be compared to a phonebook where a person’s name would correspond to the domain name (e.g. yourwebsite.com) and their phone number would correspond to the website’s IP (e.g. 159.x.x.x).

with static website’s IP you can use IP address. But, if that is a problem you can configure your own DNS server on some dedicated machine on your network.


6f87d5  No.12128965

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>>12126884

>but, you still have to dl those torrents in the first instance, so you all have to make sure you're not doing that all at the same time. or if the movie i want is on your PC and the one you want is on my PC etc etc you may not be able to transfer all of that at one time.

But, if there is a few copy's of the same content on different computers you could (using torrent) get different parts of the same movie from different locations. Than you own throughput is limit to speed you would get content. we are talking about decentralized BitTorrent/P2P client and decentralize networks.


ae1ca2  No.12130726

>>12128931

This is an easy opportunistic and cryptographically secure solution. Depending on your p2p model, you'll need time synchronization protocols (which most cryptosuites have), And you can put forth a domain request. You sign it with a private key (IPFS and other systems already use a key pair), and then as it propagates other nodes sign it with a timestamp.

The requirements would also include a relatively low latent federation channel for just this purpose or a proper pub/sub framework (IPFS again)


fa84e8  No.12131126

>>12126863

>>12126884

Well decentralizing and clandestine warfare is important, but there are too few musicians, illustrators, artists, programmers, video directors, image editors and such to maintain our media strategy. Too many LARPers, too few people with practical skill.

>>12128965

Using P2P for IP leaking is relatively easy. That this the hard part with cryptography.

>>12130726

Nice with IPFS


ae1ca2  No.12131386

>>12131126

You can mitigate some of it by "trusting" (shudders) certain bootstrap servers. I'm the IPFS shell above your post but you can also use private networks like IPv6 or something along the lines of a VPN for introductory nodes. Leakage is inevitable at some point, UNLESS, you vow to only use a certain intranet or otherwise relegate it to walled garden with stringent outbound firewall rules so leakage is minimal. As is the case with IPFS over TOR or any network device (virtual or otherwise) that is essentially just an encrypted tunnel (cjdns).

If you want the whole end product. Use cjdns or any such tunneling and routing infrastructure to pour out into commercial modems that then use local meshnets. If the netblock isn't found within the local meshnet, traffic is forwarded to more performant routers for long distance connectivity.

CHeck out TVWS. TVWS is very nearly 802.11 compatible in freq. All it requires is a transciever and it uses the white spaces of digital tv bands. Most US states allow unlicensed civilian use aslong asyou channel hop on each TX/RX pair. IF two nodes are NLoS to each other, the range can go up to 40km on a clear day with low humidity (the best case). Worst case maybe 10km (at around 50W)


15d7a3  No.12131406

>>12008749

This is correct. We need to kike the kikes. Absolutely make up reasons for fucking goy cattle. Anyone who has been around knows that's what the enemy does.

>>12044715

>/pol

>not see

Kill yourself.

>>12044820

Yes. I am not one of the top-tier techfags, but I can clearly see the need for another internet where we run servers. They will quickly become the best thing, and everyone will want in.

>>12059838

You're obviously clueless. Wanting the kikes out is seen as worse of a crime to them than any conventional "crime." You're a newfag if you don't know this. It's constant in any area they have real control over that anyone offending kikes is given a worse sentence than an apolitical murderer or robber.

>>12077434

I keep telling you newfags that you start at people WHERE THEY ARE and shift them in our direction a bit. If they resist that day, then you stop and come back to the point later. I can't count how many times I have said this on here.


000000  No.12131443

>>12117334

>TOR is full of antifa faggots.

And?

Remember: ALWAYS INVADE AND COLONIZE "LEFTIST SPACES."


3093ac  No.12131463

>>12044069

>some legal bullshitery to justify a search and destroy operation of meshnet nodes

i mean couldn't they just spam cheese pizza themselves and use that as justification?


000000  No.12131507

>>12131463

That's what the kikes did with USENET (specifically JewYork govt kikes threatened legal action) and all major ISPs dropped USENET support.


6f87d5  No.12133051

>>12131126

>Using P2P for IP leaking is relatively easy. That this the hard part with cryptography.

there is no need for cryptography…..you own a network. you can make your own rules.

you are thinking about it in the wrong way. why would you need cryptography ? is there something to hide ?

for private things you can use cryptography but there is no need for whole network to use cryptography protected traffic. there is just no need for it. and no real benefit.


ae1ca2  No.12133158

>>12133051

Are you stupid. Cryptograpraphy has more than the use of hiding? There's attribution an authentication which requires crypto. and entire network segments SHOULD use crypto, especially if you don't know what adversarial entities exist.

Now imagine this new novel network. It ferments the fostering ideas, some not so popular with the political bloc. WIthout a cryptographic means to lean on, how do you start with MitM mitigation? c r y p t o


e286d6  No.12134066

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>>12133158

>Now imagine this new novel network. It ferments the fostering ideas, some not so popular with the political bloc.

This is the reason why we should not use crypto. if you own a network it is your network. you can do with it as you please. It is yours….who gives a fuck what other political blocs in their walled gardens are doing. you are thinking in terms of government who i regulating what is allowed on network and what is not allowed. if we remove governments ability to control network then you (as owner) can put on the network anything you want.

Government will always try to control network. we should remove government from position to control network. you are thinking in terms of building your own closed network with out access from outside. I am thinking in terms of completely open network for everybody.

With cryptography you would build same thing that we now have. just with opposite political ideas. I would like to have open network for all ideas that can spread. The answer for our problem now is not more control, it is less control.


ae1ca2  No.12136269

>>12134066

Ever heard of the OSI model. You might own layers 1-4 but can't dictate the application and presentation layers if you let anyone else or expect to federate with /anyone/ else. If yous till don't want to, then that sort of defeats the purpose of a decentralized network.

You're throwing us back into the dark ages where Token Ring, IPX, IP, and tons of other arbitrary protocols were put in place b/c "its our network"


e286d6  No.12137324

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>>12136269

>You might own layers 1-4 but can't dictate the application and presentation layers if you let anyone else or expect to federate with /anyone/ else.

Why would i dictate anything to anybody ? We can just all get along and open source it. And if I (or you) do not like it then i can dictate what am i going to do on my own network. Which I own. And I can forward traffic to everybody else. It does not concern me how their application and presentation layer going to work. That is great about OSI model

>>12136269

>You're throwing us back into the dark ages where Token Ring, IPX, IP, and tons of other arbitrary protocols were put in place b/c "its our network"

Good thing we are progressive now. Internet is now so great….Right? RIGHT?!

You mean internet before demonetization, before censorship…Right? RIGHT?!>You might own layers 1-4 but can't dictate the application and presentation layers if you let anyone else or expect to federate with /anyone/ else.


c135a4  No.12139286

File: b3cb8aa3e005e63⋯.png (533.81 KB, 600x772, 150:193, cb567b9a0071441dcd2766e7ea….png)

FREE ALEX JONES

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOtaQmwxgow

We need 500k signatures for free speech. Even larpniggerloving Q/ueers and child raping leftists can agree on that.

INB4 CIANIGGER SHILLS REPLY WITH VAGUE DISINFO AGAINST ALEX JONES

20 YEARS OF EXPOSING AND FIGHTING THE CORRUPT CABAL, MUST BE ONE OF THEM BTW

BREAK UP BIG TECH MONOPOLIES ~> FOSTER COMPETITION

STOP INTERNET CENSORSHIP ~> FREE THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS

END SOFTWARE PATENTS ~> RESTART INNOVATION

Traitors are working for ChiNa


ae1ca2  No.12141006

>>12137324

So you'd rather have a gaggle of hobbyists and tinkerers virtually duct tape a protocol together and expect to get a distributed internet out of that?

TCP/IP is fine, especially in the use case that's presented int his case. Not with the billions of devices we have to support now.


08c089  No.12141015

Reminder. If they take away the internet we take away the power grid.


9fd646  No.12141554

I saw two guys in the entire thread even mentioning the fundamental problem:

Every implementation above ISO/OSI layer 2 is trash as it is because the "internet" is a hub and spoke network which requires you to provide your identity to access the hubs.

Once you can reliably implement packet routing in a mesh network, then we can have a network which is uncensorable.


10d69d  No.12141756

>>12131443

colonize lmao

as if there were no HUMANS already.

well spoken


7576f0  No.12155759

>>12141756

Also Tor is CIANigger territory if you manage to avoid antifa. Be careful (unless you are >>>/hypno/)

>>12139306

Ultimate Redpill/Punished Alex Jones… we can fuck em up real bad.

>>12131406

First we need new ways of doing Ops, second please learn to >>>/pdfs/ and IPFS, learn to Retroshare and I2P/Freenet

>>12131386

Design a proof-of-concept and bring it to >>>/poltech/, be the change you wish to have. OpernBazaar's TOR+IPFS could work… but still a bit risky until the I2P option is made.

Also is TVWS Euro-proof? Jap-poof? HK/TW-proof?


91e019  No.12155954

new computer code is the only way everything leads back to Basic and APL MANUPULATE THAT AND U WILL BE SAFE


88a47e  No.12157146

>>11976471

What's your plan b? Carrier pigeons?

Server and client websites can get ass and titty raped by the government any time. What's needed is a more public use of P2P networks such as freenet.

For the layman, freenet works similar to an imageboard. As long as anons host/talk about a website, it will stay online.




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