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File: fbdd5b1510c6702⋯.png (925.92 KB, 902x639, 902:639, yum.png)

f30b9d  No.12007068

EAT KETO

The balanced hormone diet.

Minimum ~50% calories from Fats.

Maximum for safety reasons ~75% calories from Fats.

Less Polyunsaturated Fats bc they cause inflammation.

More Saturated and Monounsaturated Fats bc that’s what you are made of.

Animal Fats, Coconut Oil, Avocado Oil, Olive Oil, Peanut Oil.

EAT PROTEIN

Amino Acids are the building blocks of life.

Men require ~60g Protein per day.

Women require ~40g Protein per day.

Eat more if skater or ninja warrior.

Bodybuilders eat 1g. of Protein per 1lb. of body weight.

The quality of the Amino Acid profile matters.

Grass-fed (and finished) and pasture-raised (sun) animals only.

Legumes are a good source of Protein.

EAT FIBRE

All Carbs are fibre.

Soluble and insoluble fibre.

Fibre hydrates muscle tissue.

Fibre ferments in colon forming 60% of stool.

Psyllium husk is good add.

Balance of grains, legumes, roots, tubers, and leafy greens.

No Carbs will cause gut death then your death.

FEED GUT FLORA

~60% of your stool is gut flora.

Raw milk, yogurt, and kefir.

Sprouted and fermented grains, legumes, breads, and pasta.

Fermented vegetables, dills, and kraut.

DRINK WATER

Consume 1/2 your body weight in ounces.

If 160lbs., drink 80oz. or 10 cups of water per day.

Drink more if fighting race war.

Beer hydrates better than water bc of the sugars.

Too much alcohol causes dehydration.

EAT BALANCED

Eating "balanced" is no meme.

By volume:

1/3 Fats

1/3 Carbs

1/3 Proteins

Because Protein and Carbs are ~4 calories per gram.

And because Fats are ~8 calories per gram.

“Balanced” diet is ~50% calories from Fat.

'My Plate' and 'Food Pyramid' are high-carb memes.

EAT DIVERSE

Diversity is your strength

Monoculture farming is unhealthful for the earth just as monoculturing your gut flora is unhealthful for your body. The more diverse your diet, the the more healthful your gut, which houses 70% of your immune system. Do not support homogenization in any form, not of milk, beer, gut flora, or people.

Don't forget to sprout your grains and legumes.

>1st thread: web.archive.org/8ch.net/pol/res/11459365.html

f30b9d  No.12007075

File: 10f86ed93470a35⋯.jpg (86.76 KB, 1024x728, 128:91, bauernfruhstuck.jpg)

EUROPEAN CUISINE

wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cuisines


f30b9d  No.12007077

File: ad86825c5d1d065⋯.png (244.82 KB, 464x373, 464:373, think.png)

READ EVERYTHING

Dominic D'agostino

Ketogenic (macronutrient) diet research.

>Tripping over the Truth: How the Metabolic Theory of Cancer Is Overturning One of Medicine's Most Entrenched Paradigms

Rhonda Patrick

Micronutrient research.

>Vitamin D Hormone Regulates Serotonin Synthesis. Part 1: Relevance for Autism

Drs. Justin and Erica Sonnenburg

Fibre and gut flora research.

>The Good Gut: Taking Control of Your Weight, Your Mood, and Your Long-term Health

Wim Hof

Iceman breathing.

>Becoming the Iceman: Pushing Past Perceived Limits

Katy Bowman

Biomechanics research.

>Move Your DNA: Restore Your Health Through Natural Movement


788601  No.12007126

>'My Plate' and 'Food Pyramid' are high-carb memes.

who the fuck listens to the government for health advice


377847  No.12007178

>eat as your ancestors did

>like slaves to a master kike


a1a53b  No.12007192

Keto means under 50g carbs a day.

Doing keto right requires consuming enough sodium.

Fruit is just sugar. Vegetables and fiber are overrated, they are just for taste.

Eat liver and egg yolks.

Dairy is not healthy.


9e4eb8  No.12007231

>>12007068

I had a small melanoma on my hand that disappeared after I started keto.

Keto and fasting are the keys to health.


026659  No.12007242

File: 30c56190df43836⋯.jpg (90.86 KB, 689x674, 689:674, 55bf5425a2a2545cf4867307a9….jpg)

Smart post Anon. I do construction in 100+° heat for 11 hours a day five days a week. I juice homegrown veggies , about two quarts a day. And eat PBnJ for lunch usually. I'm lean and strong and look like a body builder. I have no supplements and no energy drink crap and after work I smoke cigarettes and drink a bunch of beer and I'm healthy as a fucking ox at 30. The key is I avoid meat and dairy. First if all, it's disgusting rotting flesh or piss filled cow jizz. Since I'm not a faggot I don't drink white cow cum.


000000  No.12007345

>>12007242

You drink the milk, not the cum ya doofus. Did you milk a bull by accident?


f24395  No.12007371

>>12007192

>>12007242

>anti milk shills are already here


b98490  No.12007382

File: 5a8a489b24c9054⋯.png (56.24 KB, 753x336, 251:112, MUH KEEETOOOO.png)

>>12007068

>using the nu/pol/ (((meme)))

>EAT (((KETO)))

fuck off


dbfad4  No.12007428

My ancestors ate bread you faggot


c73967  No.12007437

Been on keto for a little over a month. I've lost 12 lbs. and my lifts are slowly going up. Also, I'm not very hungry these days. What happens if I don't get enough fat and significantly more protein? A couple of my days, I've been unable to get enough fats.


3cafcf  No.12007532

>>12007437

You may be kicked out of ketosis temporarily but it's nbd. Once you're out of ketosis you'll likely be hungrier than normal and more prone to carb cravings and over-eating.


53e0a9  No.12007541

>>12007382

The enemy is is using this tactic so we can’t.

You’re a schizophrenic retard.

Eat healthy guys, please.


f20b4b  No.12007545

>>12007437

Keto is gay you're just running a caloric deficit and are satiated from so much protein. Once you get to a healthy size you can start eating a more normal diet by just reducing your portion sizes.


09aa31  No.12007562

>keto

Keto is the best way to lose a lot of weight if you're a fat ass. However, gaining muscle while on keto is difficult, losing muscle while on keto is common, and keto is not an ideal diet for maximizing testosterone levels. I highly recommend keto to fatasses, but I don't think there's a point in eating keto if you aren't trying to lose weight.


39b149  No.12007595

File: 5b7b5814bc98456⋯.jpg (172.92 KB, 1136x1536, 71:96, Teddy Roosevelt.jpg)

Lots of factors in this thread.

Eat at least 1.5 grams of protein per bodyweight and make sure you are exercising for the coming race war.

Do keto runs followed by carb up days.

Avoid modern grains. They are not the grains your ancestors are. Grains are a Jewish food.

White men were hunters, fishers and pastoralists who at a keto style diet with carbs from local grains, tubers and root vegetables, fermented dairy and fruits in season.

Train for strength and endurance - but not long distance running. That shit is for fags and will fuck your knees. Hiking and sprints along with weight lifting and fighting.


82b1fb  No.12007632

File: fa5b1f77a8f8c2e⋯.jpg (12.38 KB, 359x359, 1:1, 9e6.jpg)

No baked kale? No soy?? This isn't nu/pol/! Get off my board nazis.


bed9c1  No.12007637

>>12007595

humans are the best long-distance running species overall. as long as you stretch properly after every run and aren't a lardass your knees will be fine. also need to start running on softer surfaces and transition up. 100% agree with you otherwise

cycling is the real faggot cardio btw


11e093  No.12007660

I eat at least 600g of carbs per day and less than 30g of fat and my athleticism increased immediately and I'm losing weight because I have tons of energy to train with sustained intensity. My mood is awesome and have a lot more motivation. No need for stimulants either. I think the Olympic athletes figured out how to eat for health and fitness. High carb low fat is the best and the diet is very similar to that of our ancestors. Civilization became a thing because of farming grains. I slam potatoes, brown rice, corn, oats, beans, cabbage, and fruit all day and feel great. The kings of old got diabetes, and heart attacks because they indulged on luxury fatty cheeses and meats every meal while the strong and lean farmers got mad work done fueled on carbs.


d58430  No.12007665

>>12007637

Yeah, but we have fucking concrete!!!

Did our ancestor run on rocks or fields?

At any rate, I think that one meal a day is best. Lead into it with two meals a day spaced out by ~9 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FYZ_8Z9qk

This guy's name is Simon, but pretty sure he is not a kike.

This video is fascinating. Previously our ancestors mostly only had a large meal in evening.

Also talks about Kellogg's with cereal and his circumcision fetish.Truly one of the worst gentiles in the history of the world.


4fcda9  No.12007675

You're a good man OP

I've recently started keto, not too terribly fat but desk job, love handles, was eating too much sugar anyways. Good information here it's more or less all what I've come across in my own research. I will say getting the best quality protein you can is crucial, none of that grain fed, hormone pumped bullshit, local/grass fed and if you can kill it yourself all the better.


e0cdab  No.12007687

>>12007595

I think that's far too much.

A good formula is 0.8 - 1.2 g of protein per LEAN lb of body weight for an active man. So if you are 160 lbs at 15% body fat -> 160 * 0.85 = between 100 and 160 grams of protein. More than that probably goes to waste.


863821  No.12007690

File: 96bded3d224905b⋯.gif (1.51 MB, 512x512, 1:1, 4f4248dd737a2692787bcef042….gif)

Whats the deal with sodium? I've been hearing it's not as bad as people make it sound, which wouldn't surprise me. Since corporations like to use scapegoats to cover up the main health hazard sugar.


4fcda9  No.12007708

>>12007690

it's one of the top nutrient deficiencies, helps you retain water, regulates blood pressure, crucial in nerve and muscle function


a0b7dd  No.12007709

EAT BIG GET BIG

ALSO VEGANS ARE GAY


6d58b9  No.12007721

>>12007068

that's too complicated fuck that i'm just getting a big buford w / milkshake and curly fries yum


1f4b0b  No.12007744

>>12007178

(1) and done. you guys must not be getting paid that much.


8873c3  No.12007751

File: 1072444c7d7ad30⋯.jpg (17.41 KB, 336x265, 336:265, ButterFamily.jpg)

pol's Self Improvement threads have changed my life. Eating whole foods is the foundation of good health. I can't say enough positive things about Weston A. Price and his dietary recommendations. Eat and live clean and the rest will follow. Thank you /pol for showing me the way.


6571ae  No.12007758

I do much better on the Starch Solution tbh.


1f4b0b  No.12007759

>>12007428

nigger OP told you to eat carbs


11e093  No.12007771

>>12007758

Dr Mcdougall is a god. Realest dude out there


000000  No.12007802

>>12007382

>nu/pol/

>nutrient/pol/

I thought it was obvious.

>(


91e17d  No.12007808

>>12007545

Just do all your shopping around the edges of the grocery store. And do fast every once in awhile I think it has benefits. Some diet advice I heard recently that stuck with me was that humans weren’t made to necessarily eat every single day. If you limit calories enough for a short time your body goes into starvation mode and you burn more calories off as your body thinks you’re out hunting for something. If you just lower portions for awhile but don’t go below some certain level, your metabolism just lowers to account for it and you stop losing weight. This is what happens for most. Some Asian guy has jewtube vids about it. It seems legit. I honestly think there is something to the intermittent fasting idea. I feel better when I feel empty than heavy full and slow. It makes food taste even better when you break fast too. I feel it may be good to do. There’s gotta be a reason many faiths call for it in spiritual senses.


9781e1  No.12007811

>>12007068

>Eat more if skater or ninja warrior.

I want to beat the shit out of you just for this you faggot hipster


000000  No.12007813

>>12007192

Different people of different body sizes and body types require different amounts of resources. Based on the caloric requirements for each individual person, measuring fat intake as a proportion of their daily caloric intake makes such a diet scalable.


000000  No.12007817

>>12007808

I "fast" 12 hrs a day. 8-10hrs sleep + 1-2hrs no eat before and after sleep. Works well for me but everybody is different.


fa5b3d  No.12007829

>>12007811

I unironically enjoy skateboarding, am I wrong for that?


8d6710  No.12007857

>>12007829

as long as you're a qt boy, no


fa5b3d  No.12007867

>>12007857

t. kike


32ab37  No.12008022

>>12007068

>another fad diet

buy my "vitamin" pills goy.


27ebe7  No.12008730

I lost 100 lbs. eating keto and most of the symptoms to my health problems cleared up, I have Crohn’s disease.

Shit works. Wake up with tons of energy.

However, carb craving is real. I have to give myself a monthly cheat day for my own sanity.


27ebe7  No.12008732

>>12008022

No need for multivitamins on Keto. You get everything you need from your diet.


3e9a71  No.12008746

File: 0e202418b9a7beb⋯.png (13.27 KB, 1033x416, 1033:416, carbohydrates-testosterone….png)

>>12007562

keto causes testosterone levels to crash.


7b8915  No.12008752

WHERE THE FUCK CAN I GET RAW MILK IN BURGERLAND

This shit is harder to find than crack cocaine. As soon as I ask any grocer, farmers market worker, etc, they clam up in horror and say that it's illegal, no way would they sell it.

This is ridiculous, where have other anons gotten their supply from?


792583  No.12008754

>>12007562

As a former fat fuck I disagree, lifting and a bodybuilder diet got me in shape. Building muscle kills fat, and the protein rich diet keeps (((temptation))) at bay. Keto seems like a meme diet, it's the kind of thing my coworkers use to brag about losing 5 pounds that they regain in a weekend.


792583  No.12008758

>>12008752

You gotta go into rural areas for it. I tried it once and got the shits for days. Other people swear by it though.


3b23b8  No.12008810

>>12008752

See if you can find any local creameries. Depending on what state you're in, it's (((illegal))) to sell in stores, but still legal to sell at the creamery itself.

https://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/


3b23b8  No.12008814

>>12008752

>>12008810

Forgot to mention be prepared to shell out for it, I get it from a local creamery for $11 a gallon. It's rough, but it's the real deal. There's absolutely no comparison when it comes to the taste, grocery store milk just tastes like vaguely milk flavored hormone water once you've been drinking real stuff for a while.


381a34  No.12008820

I hope you like cow shit, Raw milk is full of it.


ee1493  No.12008834

>>12008752

>WHERE CAN I GET RAW MILK?

from a cow. my family had a cow milked it by hand to get fresh milk. it was very good, andthe cream would always separate out easily. best butter ever


79fd91  No.12008880

>>12007231

Intermittent fasting is supposed to be very healthy. Activates the immune system and helps regulate insulin levels.


79fd91  No.12008881

>>12008834

That was a bull sweety


18edb2  No.12008932

>>12007068

Can you give an example of a typical day's meal plan?


95681b  No.12008988

File: ec3363c7e53db3e⋯.png (305.97 KB, 560x426, 280:213, 1517600406067.png)

>>12008810

>>12008752

The way to buy it legally in (illegal states) is to say the raw milk is of the purpose of bathing in; not for consuming.


18edb2  No.12009109

>>12008834

I actually got cream milk from Amazon Fresh a few times weirdly enough. Don't have it anymore though and no stores around here carry it.


ec132d  No.12009121

You shouldnt be drinking raw milk without getting yourself acquainted with it first. Drink very very little of it, you will get the shits.


5a16af  No.12009124

>>12007068

Our ancestors didn't eat a bunch of retarded and contradictory fad diet bullshit.


000000  No.12009292

>>12009124

They ate as OP posted. A balanced meal of meats, fats, grains, fruits, and veggies. I do not see what is "fad" about eating balanced.


5a16af  No.12009384

>>12009292

OP posted contradictory things, try reading. You can't eat keto and balanced you moron. They fermented things to store it, not because it made it better for you.


c506d4  No.12009433

>>12007637

Long distance running is for niggers.


115bcc  No.12009490

File: e7490e96a69c9be⋯.jpg (18.82 KB, 200x200, 1:1, 1523896629893.jpg)

>>12007632

No soy latte, no up-vote, Nazis!


676eca  No.12009526

>keto

>suggests carbs

lol, that's not keto, dumbass

>eat like your ancestors

>eat keto

its called paleo, retard, and you should be eating shittons of veggies, (almost) no grains (or fruits)


5a16af  No.12009556

>>12009526

Absolutely none of the vegetables available now existed in paleolithic times. The only thing paleo about your fad diet is the name.


5c65d6  No.12009583

>>12007242

>The key is I avoid meat and dairy.

Anon, you should mean avoid mass farmed dairy and pasteurized milk. The former for all the fucked up hormones and the latter as it's no longer a substance the body recognizes as food and will fuck up your intestines.

Befriend a farmer, pay him $50-$100 bucks a month for a gallon of home milk, and some home butter, and home cheese and home beef it will change you life.


c13a25  No.12009616

I was surprised to see in some story on professional gamers living in a mansion that the chef there makes keto meals for marathon gaming sessions. This keeps them from craving jew diabetes powder every couple of hours.


5a16af  No.12009635

>>12009583

>cooking milk makes it no longer food

How do people get this stupid?

>paying more for milk will change your life

No retard, it really won't. My milk comes from my back yard. You can't tell the difference.


5c65d6  No.12009711

File: 8b8e8844f38965d⋯.jpg (177.74 KB, 638x826, 319:413, DeepNutritionWhyYourGenesN….jpg)

File: 5d57011920e5486⋯.jpg (187.43 KB, 638x826, 319:413, DeepNutritionWhyYourGenesN….jpg)

File: 51d046b34689fe6⋯.jpg (207.01 KB, 638x826, 319:413, DeepNutritionWhyYourGenesN….jpg)

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>>12009635

>>cooking milk makes it no longer food

>How do people get this stupid?

Kike spotted! You're using a strawman! pasteurization isn't just cooking it, it's superheating it until all the proteins break down and thus destroying any nutritional value it has and any good bacteria with it!


5a16af  No.12009770

>>12009711

Pasteurization is not superheating you fucking retard, it is a lower heat than normal cooking, 145 to 160 F. By your "logic" cooking a chicken breast makes it no longer food and have no nutritional value.


5c65d6  No.12009784

>>12009770

Personal insults and ad homonim? Deffo kike. Filtered.


5a16af  No.12009817

>>12009770

If you want to play captain fedora of the starship reddit and fire your logical fallacy rays, you might want to learn how they work first (or at least how to spell them). Insulting you is not an ad hominem. Your post is an ad-hom though, learn the difference.


000000  No.12009854

>>12009526

It's okay, I get things mixed up sometimes, too.

>keto

'Keto' means "ketogenic" which is a state that describes the body burning keytones instead of glucose as fuel.

>paleo

'Paleo' means "paleolithic", as in 3,000,000 to 12,000 years ago. There is no knowing what they ate since our oldest human samples barely go back 10,000 years. It is an inaccurate label, you shouldn't use it.

'Ancestors' includes your grandparents and relatives from all previous times such as the middle ages and such. They baked bread and brewed beer, in addition to eating dairy, meat, vegetables, and fruit.

There was an actual list posted >>12007075 if it was unclear what you should eat.

wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cuisines


4ca308  No.12009864

Kill yourself you jew fuck.


4ca308  No.12009871

They want you on keto so you can't differentiate between cat-piss smells from crazy feminists and alt-kike.


7911ac  No.12009880

>>12008746

>Not stating if the test subjects had the ability to get accustomed to this diet

Your picture proves exactly nothing.


5dc6d7  No.12009907

>>12009711

What about vat pasteurization? It’s kept at a lower temperature for a longer amount of time in an attempt to keep those vital fats alive


000000  No.12009918

>>12009384

>keto balanced

Yes you can, the math of 1/3 fats, which are twice the calories of proteins and carbohydrates per gram, makes it so.

>fermentation is not "better"

It is, as it replenishes the things that live in your gut. A very important addition to a modern sanitized diet where the water and milk have been treated with heat, uv, and/or chemical antibiotics to kill the natural cultures they contain.

If you didn't defend raw local dairy, I would think you were here only to take a shit, since all of your posts are rude.


4ca308  No.12009922

>>12009711

What's the nutritional value of blood, pus, and fecal matter, moshe?


7e3a45  No.12009932

>>12009711

>it's superheating it until all the proteins break down

You're referring to UHT pasteurisation, which produces horrible-tasting long-life milk that keeps for months without refrigeration. Regular pasteurisation is much less severe.


f86ec6  No.12009937

>>12007068

This is how I know that keto is cult and OP is a faggot.

>Eat As Your Ancestors Did

Weren't any avocados, coconuts, or olives where my folk lived.

>keto

>milk, breads, and pasta

Yeah, pick one, asshole.

At least OP isn't a fucking vegan.


000000  No.12009940

>>12009864

>>12009871

>t. actual jew

Anon, if you reverse engineer the ancestral meals of your people you will find a balance of fats, proteins, and carbohydrates, as well as a variety of meats, dairy, grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruit. Only people fighting cancer should go up to the 75% calories from fats mark and only with the assistance of an experienced physician and only for short periods of time before returning to the balanced level of 50% calories from fats.


000000  No.12009944

>>12009937

>no tomatoes or most legumes either

Maybe not, but there was animal fat.


f30b9d  No.12009983

>>12007660

I don't think that is true, anon.


f30b9d  No.12009988

>>12008752

realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/


96d314  No.12010089

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


380528  No.12010108

>>12009940

Cunt, if you had half a brain you would know increasing your ammonia levels isn't doing your brain any good. Kill yourself.


380528  No.12010121

File: 27c5c3c1db962ae⋯.gif (3.26 MB, 500x281, 500:281, WarlikeJitteryFrilledlizar….gif)


5a16af  No.12010186

>>12009918

You are completely and utterly fucking brain dead. 1/3 fats, 1/3 protein, 1/3 carbs will not put you in ketosis. The bacteria in your gut do not need to be "replenished", they reproduce on their own. Water and milk do not contain natural cultures, if they have bacteria in them it is due to contamination. Keep crying about your feelings, I'm sure that will prove useful eventually.


bac467  No.12010285

>>12007690

Sodium is necessary, and your (suggested) intake heavily depends on your diet. Hypertension is usually caused by your sodium to potassium ratio being off (not enough potassium relative to your sodium levels).


8a26bb  No.12010402

> All Carbs are fibre.

Are you fucking retarded? Dietary "carbs" are exactly the opposite of fibre. "Carbs" is sugars and starches, while fibre is indigestible cellulose.


34419f  No.12010462

File: d8dc08664926365⋯.gif (2 MB, 269x299, 269:299, fatty bally.gif)

Been on Keto and sober 6 months now. Fucking love it. Never been fat but I had a little beer belly and lost that. I don't work out but work outdoors a lot and run occasionally.

But Keto is a NO SUGAR LOW CARB diet. Carbs=Sugar. Carbs break down into sugar once digested. Once you eliminate the poison (sugar) your brain starts running off ketones and its fucking energy and clarity like you've never known.


000000  No.12010489

>Bodybuilders eat 1g. of Protein per 1lb. of body weight.

Bodybuilders are striving for cosmetic effects.

If a "body builder" requires protein at 1g/lb must you mix metric and imperial? for optimal gains, then a man in a physically demanding role should probably strive to consume a similar amount.

>all carbs are fibre

What do you mean by this? A sugar cube is 100% carb and 0% fibre.

>Fibre hydrates muscle tissue.

This is turning woo-ish. Fibre does not enter your blood stream, so how the fuck can it "hydrate" muscle tissue?

>No Carbs will cause gut death then your death.

Ok, explain Eskimo.


9dd6c6  No.12010640

>>12007068

My ancestors were Swiss.

> eat oil from trees they never heard of

Fuck off.


5a16af  No.12010641

>>12010462

>sugar is poison

>that's why we evolved to live on it

Enjoy your low T ketard.

>>12010489

>If a "body builder" requires protein at 1g/lb

They don't, that's a myth. Virtually everyone is fine at 0.64. A man in a physically demanding role is not going to be at a protein deficit getting 0.5. Also that is lean mass, carrying around 80 pounds of lard doesn't mean you need more protein.

https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/


9dd6c6  No.12010662

>>12009940

And that they ate 50 plants per week. Different plants and different parts so in fact 100 different things. The poor were deprived and stupid and the very rich ate also different. Look up stomach contents of swamp bodies.


11e093  No.12010744

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I exercise about 1 hour per day (cardio and lifting) and sit on my ass at work all day. I'm losing fat mass as we speak. How long will it take me to become obese, diabetic, and prone to heart disease and high cholesterol with this carbohydrate demon diet? Should I replace my artery clogging potatoes with lard instead? I don't know guys…


b2d989  No.12011898

>>12007813

Following OP's advice will not put someone into ketosis. He recommends 50% of calories from fat, which is not enough. It should be at least 70% calories from fat.

50 grams of carbs is just a rule of thumb, but still more accurate than what OP wrote.

Individual responses will vary, but consuming just enough carbs and protein to be low carb, but not in ketosis, can lead to problems where the glucose needs are not being met, nor is the body in a keto adapted state where it burns ketones and produces some glucose itself via gluconeogensis.

Read the books by Volek & Phinney.


000000  No.12012416

>>12011898

OP didn't mention low-carb, and half calories from fats means half calories from carbs and protein, the latter of which stores as glycogen when you eat more than you need and burns as glucose, so your assertions of health risk are untrue. Also, 70-75% calories from fats is risky cancer treatment amount and can cause ketoacidosis and death if done over long periods in some people, especially those at risk of, or who already have, diabetes.


000000  No.12012418

>>12011898

>Volek & Phinney

Thanks for the rec, tho.


b2d989  No.12012497

>>12012416

You are sadly misinformed. Please don't give out advice about things you know very little about.

>Defining ‘Nutritional Ketosis’

The second way to define ‘low carbohydrate’ is physiologic – specifically that level below which there is a fundamental shift in your body’s fuel homeostasis (i.e., energy regulation) away from glucose as a primary fuel. This shift is the adaptation of the body’s hormonal set and inter-organ fuel exchange to allow most of your daily energy needs to be met by fat, either directly as fatty acids or indirectly by ketone bodies made from fat. This process, which is discussed more fully in Chapter 7, begins for most adults when total carbohydrate is restricted to less than 60 grams per day along with a moderate intake of protein. After a few weeks at this level, the primary serum ‘ketone’ (beta-hydroxybutyrate, or B-OHB), rises above 0.5 millimolar (mM). At this ketone level, which is 10-fold higher than that in someone with a daily intake of 300 grams of carbohydrate, the brain begins to derive a substantial portion of its energy needs from B-OHB, resulting in a commensurate reduced need for glucose.

With further restriction of carbohydrate below 50 grams per day, the serum B-OHB rises in response to reduced insulin secretion. However, because dietary protein prompts some insulin release, and serum B-OHB itself stimulates insulin release by the pancreas (albeit subtly), adults eating 20 grams of carbohydrate and 75-150 grams per day of protein rarely run serum B -OHB levels above 3 mM. This is in contrast to the response to total starvation (i.e., no dietary carbs or protein) where the serum BOHB levels run as high as 5 mM.

This 10-fold range of serum ketones, from 0.5 to 5 mM, is your body’s normal physiological response to varying degrees of dietary carbohydrate and protein restriction. This response range is called ‘nutritional ketosis’, and is associated with metabolic adaptations allowing your body to maintain a stable state of inter-organ fuel homeostasis. This process is dependent on an adequate, albeit minimal, ability of the pancreas to produce insulin in response to dietary protein and serum ketones, thus maintaining serum B-OHB in the range where it replaces much of your body’s (and your brain’s) need for glucose without distorting whole-body acid-base balance.

Nutritional ketosis is by definition a benign metabolic state that gives human metabolism the flexibility to deal with famine or major shifts in available dietary fuels. By contrast, ‘diabetic ketoacidosis’ is an unstable and dangerous condition that occurs when there is inadequate pancreatic insulin response to regulate serum B-OHB. This occurs only in type-1 diabetics or in late stage type-2 diabetes with advanced pancreatic burnout. In this setting of deficient insulin, when exogenous insulin is withheld, serum B-OHB levels reach the 15-25 mM range – 5-to-10-fold higher than the levels characteristic of nutritional ketosis.

Unfortunately, among the general public and even many health care professionals as well, these two distinct metabolic states tend to be confused one for another. Understanding how different they are is key to being able to capture the many benefits of nutritional ketosis while avoiding the risks in that very small minority of the population subject to developing diabetic ketoacidosis. To this end, a full chapter later in this book is devoted to the clinical use of carbohydrate restriction in diabetes.


000000  No.12012696

>>12012497

Anon, your post confirms my statements about the difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis. Please clarify your argument because it seems we are in agreement about these things. However, the claim of a weight in grams as the defining point for ketosis doesn't address the difference between people's sizes and systems. And the body's storing of excess protein as glycogen and burning it as glucose is an accurate simplification of the process. Your claims are simply untrue.


b2d989  No.12012783

>>12012696

My arguments are:

1. Ketosis, when done right, is not dangerous for the vast majority of people (those without metabolic issues like diabetes).

There is an important difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis. What you claimed to be a dangerous therapeutic zone is in reality the minimum required to reach nutritional ketosis, and anything else is not it.

2. Ketosis is automatically low carb. How low varies slightly between people, but a good rule of thumb is below 50g of carbs per day, preferably lower.

3. Low carb is not automatically ketogenic

4. Low carb without entering ketosis is not ketosis, meaning the body does switch to producing and burning ketones, and does not be come keto adapted

5. Because protein is insulinogenic and gluconeogenic, eating too much of it can prevent ketosis, same as eating too many carbs

6. A ratio of anything below 70% fat from calories is unlikely to result in ketosis

7. This point is a hypothesis on my part: the ratio of only 50% fat and 50% other calories in order to reach nutritional ketosis can only be justified in phases of low caloric intake, where the fat calories missing from the diet can be compensated for by stored body fat, and the total calories from carbohydrates and protein do not surpass the maximum required for the organism not to enter nutritional ketosis


b2d989  No.12012790

>>12012783

>meaning the body does switch

*meaning the body does not switch


048ae0  No.12012812

>>12007068

Not bad advice.

Saturated fat is good for you.

Eggs are good for you.

Dietary cholesterol does not affect serum cholesterol (in your blood). Poor cholesterol profiles result from massive simple sugar intake as well as deep fried foods (which contain much trans fat no matter what claims are mad).


e9a844  No.12012902

>>12009124

gas yourself you dumb kike

>>12009384

gas yourself you dumb kike

>>12009556

gas yourself you dumb kike

>>12009635

gas yourself you dumb kike

>>12010641

gas yourself you dumb kike


9f932e  No.12015028

>>12007242

Vegan here, dropping by to say I think you meant "puss"

Btw, for people who cant into nutrition, im stronk af, and people think I work out but I don't (I'm just ripped)

Meat is for niggers and kikes

Sieg Heil.


95d1bc  No.12015045

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>>12007068

>DRINK WATER

>Consume 1/2 your body weight >in ounces.

>If 160lbs., drink 80oz. or 10 >cups of water per day.

>Drink more if fighting race >war.

>Beer hydrates better than >water bc of the sugars.

>Too much alcohol causes >dehydration.

What would you folk consider a good diet for someone looking to lose weight and bulk up?

>roughly 220lbs built chub

>I'm a Recovering Beta and I'm having a relapse, haven't been to the gym all week…

Thank you captcha for the words of encouragement.


000000  No.12015071

>>12007178

>>12007382

>>12007632

>>12008746

>>12009490

Great thread, OP, it attracted some kikes.

(((They))) are worried about their precious medical industry and diet foods industries. Anything to keep the goyim hooked up to the expensive teats which have been engineered for them.

I lost a bunch of weight going keto and I feel great. Still drink some beer though I am sticking to low- or no-hops varieties.


389608  No.12015088

File: bfd7b4858035b00⋯.jpg (55.11 KB, 629x720, 629:720, 18b78e97ab31a933e6c89529f9….jpg)

Seems like a good thread. How do I remove be heavy metal toxins from my body?


5a16af  No.12015114

>>12012902

Poor soybug get triggered?

>>12015092

> Men require about as many grams of protein as their weight in pounds per day.

No, they don't. Read.

https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/


000000  No.12015127

>>12015088

Eat lots of cilantro, it has a chelating effect. Also iodine will flush out accumulated fluoride.


95d1bc  No.12015133

File: 99a3766ee9e75f2⋯.png (113.08 KB, 297x430, 297:430, HitlerCheckem.png)

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>>>12015088

SIEG

Bumping for interest in this as well.

How do I even check for this shit?


42857c  No.12015626

>>12010744

>120g of protein

>1kg of meme potatoes

>no meat

What the fuck are you doing you absolute retard? How much do you weigh and what is your body fat percentage?


d44070  No.12015710

>>12007595

>but not long distance running. That shit is for fags and will fuck your knees.

This. Running has shown to lower testosterone in men as well. If you have to run, do either sprints as suggested by anon I quoted, or hiking/walking long distance.


048ae0  No.12015742

>>12015114

anti protein is anti white


a30213  No.12015789

File: 7168095927c14da⋯.jpg (338.77 KB, 1300x5000, 13:50, Keto-Grocery-Shopping-List.jpg)

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>>12009871

>They want you on keto so you can't differentiate between cat-piss smells

I've been on the Keto diet for the last 4 months and it has corrected my chronic nasal congestion. I'm actually able to fully breathe through my nose for the first time in my life. So I have no idea what you're on about.


5b18bf  No.12015801

>>12015789

so you went on a sketchy idea of a "diet" instead of eating well and cleaning the mold out of your house?


4ec5ba  No.12015818

File: 4fbe19f784e59df⋯.png (39.83 KB, 498x497, 498:497, airuvowva.png)

>>12007242

>I smoke cigarettes and am as healthy as a fucking ox!

You're fucking retarded, faggot. Your lungs will be like lead when you are sixty.


5b18bf  No.12015828

>>12007242

>dont eat meat

>dont eat dairy

>drink beer and smoke pesticide +40 other carcinogens

So how not to be prime

I bet you look like a sack of rotting potatoes.


bed9c1  No.12015859

>>12009433

cyclist detected lol. in any case, need some form of cardio. swimming is also good but generally less convenient and more difficult to do properly.


9d49c7  No.12015913

>>12015626

I weigh 200lbs currently. I'd probably be pretty cut at 160lbs, as I remember seeing a bit of abs at 170lbs. So I'm guessing I'm around 20% body fat at the moment. I had originally cut down to 170lbs and ended up gaining the weight back after returning to normal eating so I'm pretty sure I fucked up my metabolism a bit by cutting aggressively like I did. Anyway, my metabolism is back up and seems faster than ever as I never ate 3000 calories per day consistently while getting leaner. I attribute this to the high carb low fat plant based diet that I've never done in my life until now. So it feels good to be able to satisfy my hunger, not get fat, and just use exercise to burn the fat instead of eating like an anorexic. With so many carbs I have tons of energy to do this exercise. 120g of protein is enough protein for a 160lb lean body mass, which is decent weight for being 5'7". 1g per pound is not necessary. Also, if you want a screenshot of my diet hitting all required amino acids I can provide that, just in case you believe meat is necessary for that. 1kg of sweet potatoes isn't really that crazy. Its about 2 big sweet potatoes and they're roughly 75% water anyway.


5c355b  No.12015940

>>12007068

>EAT KETO

>EAT FIBRE all carbs are fibre

Choose one

Keto is fucking retarded and unsustainable. You're literally not allowed to eat ANY sugars/fruits, carbs, or even too much meat or you'll fuck it up.


612c65  No.12016006

>>12015913

ur either a manlet or lanky Skelly.


4ec5ba  No.12016039

Here is my routine. I will tell you why I did what I did and the results that I received from my decisions:

I have been struggling with skin conditions (psoriasis, dandruff, minor eczema…) for about ten years, and nothing would really help. I decided to try intermittent fasting and a carnivore diet for a month to see what would happen.

I limited myself to steak, eggs, supplements and ginger juice:

-Wake up and drink ginger juice and water. No coffee needed when you drink some ginger (the health benefits are legion), but don't pay attention to what (((wiki))) has to say about ginger.

-Fast throughout a 10 hour shift behind the god damned computer. Drink ginger water to defeat hunger. Hunger disppates after the eighth hour. Water, water, water.

-After work, take out frozen steak and liberally coat one side with coarse sea salt for two hours until thawed (this technique will give any cut of any meat the tenderness of a filet mignon; just don't let the salt sit for too long). Rinse off salt. pan sear steak after rubbing down both sides with salt, garlic, and black pepper. 2 minutes each side in a HOT cast iron skillet. Cook 2-3 eggs.

-Eat it. Sleep. Repeat.

The flakes disappeared on my scalp, and the psoriasis went away on my face and elbows Perhaps this is from the reduction of inflammation. The ginger juice helps move the food along when there is a shortage of roughage.

Supps: acidophilous, multivitamin, selenium, calcium.


9d49c7  No.12016042

>>12016006

Yep. Manlet reporting in. 5'7" master race.


6c841e  No.12016106

>>12015071

>I lost a bunch of weight going keto and I feel great

yes. Losing a bunch of weight, with or without consuming carbs, makes you feel great.

Keto is a great meme-diet for fatasses with no self-control who are too stupid and lazy to properly plan a balanced diet that fits their goals and then measure calories on a daily/weekly basis. Cutting out the carbs from the sodas you guzzle and pastries you gorge on will probably put you at a caloric deficit and thus help you lose 'a bunch of weight'.

But I don't need to lose a bunch of weight. I need to gain a bunch of weight. I need to deadlift 500lbs. I need to do 15 weighted pullups. I've tried keto. Making progress in any intermediate strength training program while not consuming carbs (if you're not roiding) is almost impossible. You constantly feel like complete shit and you put yourself at risk of injury because it literally makes you weaker. Even most pro-keto people will have the common sense to warn you that once you've lost the weight, you should go back to consuming carbs because keto makes your body dump testosterone production. Consuming copious amounts of soy at every meal has less of an effect on test than keto does.


d28707  No.12016141

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>>12015045

Look up snake diet on youtube. Exercise builds muscle. Diet builds fat. Get back in the gym faggot. When you're sitting on your ass stop shoveling food into your cock holster.

I only eat once a day, but I eat all my calories at once then go to bed. I've been lifting more, and losing weight. Snake diet guy is all about fasting. The longest I've done is a 36 hour fast, but I'm a skinny faggot. I used 24hour fasts to ditch my caffeine addiction. Haven't touched the cold brew jew in a month. My sleep is amazing. My energy is high as fuck. I'm making gains on quitting porn & sugar now.

You will have to go through a couple weeks of withdrawal symptoms that are absolute suffering. Working out until your arms are numb from pain is how I suppressed the urges to quit. Dry fasting has worked best for me, ut early on you will need your electrolytes so salt water fast you fat fuck.


9d49c7  No.12016178

>>12016141

>Atkins diet meme


b8df79  No.12016231

stay active and dont eat fast food. all these diets, even muh based carnivore, are for retard.


d28707  No.12016271

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>>12016178

>Not recognizing Upton Sinclair's meme diet


dc9b9b  No.12016285

Veganstep on these goose eatin niggas

Honk honk meat-eating faggots, get in the back of the mobile oven


377a00  No.12016414

>>12016039

>carnivore diet

Some cursory reading I've done about these new fad diets suggests reducing simple sugars from your diet to a bare minimum helps to reduce the effects of inflammation in most regards. You could probably help your skin along by making sure you have ample magnesium, potassium, zinc (read: plain yoghurt) and getting some more time under the sun. Also, you can never get enough fiber so any cruciferous vegetables you can eat will do you better.


dc9b9b  No.12016453

>>12016141

Can you answer to the ties camus had to Judaism?

I endorse the quote about Sisyphus, but I am skeptical of camus.


b2d989  No.12016607

>>12016414

>cursory

Yeah, it shows.


95d1bc  No.12016991

>>12016141

Will be acquiring Snake Juice ingredients tomorrow. Wish me luck on my fast anons!


b1680d  No.12018324

Wow, wholepol really has declined in quality.

Came here a month or so before the first exodus.

Using Hitler to push Veganism..

Veganism destroys your gut − all types of Vegan-diets does this, "fully Raw", "Fruterian", "Oils", "Fatty".

Hitler had IBS.

IBS is caused by vegetables and grains.

These foods creates a bacterial climate in your gut, that over time − eats you from the inside.

Not to mention that your body starts to burn organs, muscles, brain-matter and your own skeleton for nutrients.

That is why the Vegans feel so good the first month, because your own body is leaching on it self, you'll use up the nutrients that has been stored for decades.

A year later and you will rapidly age, your teeth will fall out.

And you'll start going crazy.

"Let me try that, high vibrational frequency breatherian diet!!"

Just look at Vegans on YT, all of them are scrawny wimps, the ones that aren't, are using loads of supplements − from the pharmajew, anabolic steroids, loads of dental work and facial lifts.

If you just want to watch a compilation of them. You can search for "Epitome of Malnourishment"

Now, for the point about Hitler, New age then is new age now. He got conned.

Onto "DIEts"

Flip the food pyramid on it's head and your all set. If you still have issues.

Do an elimination diet, Start with nothing but beef (Grass-fed is key, but grain-fed "works" as well)

In extreme cases, your gut is so badly damaged that raw eggs are your only option, stick with it for a week and you'll notice positive effects.

Then you can add foods one at a time. Vegetables is the last thing that you'll add(Because contrary to popular belief, it's not healthy for us, loads of acids and anti-nutrients)

I eat mostly raw meat and organs from healthy/wild animals (but I also cook them from time to time). homemade crispbread without yeast. Loads of raw butter and raw milk.

Greens are not healthy for people, but other types of plants and roots can be beneficial in small quantities.

Herbs and mushroom is where I get most of my "non-animal" nutrients.

I stay away from seeds, (they cut-up your intestines)

Drink blood from healthy wild animals (just try it, you'll not regret it)


cd5e31  No.12018419

>>12016141

>meat

Meat is an emergency survival food. All the longest lived peoples on earth have one thing in common; a diet consisting of <1% meat and <10% fish. Look up the Abkhasians of the Caucasus mountains, the Vilcabambans, and the Okinawans. All routinely live to over 100 years old and stay completely healthy, even youthful in some respects, until the last few months of life.


b1680d  No.12018654

>>12018419

You don't live long on a diet consisting of anti-nutrients.

There we're many explorers in the 1800-1900 that went to tribes all over the world, they ate meat whenever they could get it, especially island dwellers, with fish diets. 70year old women looking like 30 year old. Average lifespan of 150years.

Stay soy.


260a22  No.12018793

>>12018324

Does your logic apply to the nearly carnivorous eskimo cadavers that were found to have osteoporosis and atherosclerosis? Osteoporosis is not from low levels of calcium intake, but the dissolving of bone minerals to balance the pH from high levels of acid in the bloodstream that comes from the metabolism of proteins. Fat in the bloodstream sure is a good risk factor for atherosclerosis, an easy way to increase fat in the bloodstream is to eat more fat. Their facial appearances also had indications of low thyroid output from their low carb diet. Carbohydrates facilitate the conversion of inactive to active thyroid hormone so this makes sense.

>greens are bad for you

>greens are foods highest in nitrates that increase nitric oxide gas production that seeps into the blood stream, dislodging arterial plaques and dilating blood vessels for increased blood flow. They're great for maintaining strong boners throughout life.

All animals with seminal vesicles are vegetarian by nature. Men have seminal vesicles. Modern men are products of civilization, which was only possible after being able to farm and produce high amounts of starchy foods to support a growing population. Gladiators ate primarily barley diets. Mayans ate primarily potato. Some of the greatest Ancient Greek philosophers thought vegetarian eating was superior.

Eating animals did have a benefit to survival though in times of famine or winter. A carnivorous diet slows the metabolism and the appetite also goes down to make it easier to survive the famine of preferred energy sources (carbs). Muscles store glycogen for energy. The liver stores glycogen. The brain absolutely requires glycogen. Carnivorous diets cause insulin resistance so that glucose is not stored in tissues and is to be kept in the bloodstream to be used by the brain. Our tongues find sweetness to be the most desirable. This is because we are carbohydrate eating animals by nature. Carnivores on the other hand have a strong taste reaction for raw unseasoned meat.

Humans are long distance runners by nature and are supposed to be lean and agile. Many vegans are unhealthy and sickly, but so are many meat eaters. The sick ones are sick not because they don't eat meat, but they most likely don't eat enough food in general.


b2f454  No.12018830

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>>12007068

>Coconut Oil, Avocado Oil, Olive Oil, Peanut Oil

You're deluded if you think ancient Europeans ate any of this shit. Europeans ate mainly meat in the winter, and some berries/vegetables when they were available in other seasons.


d03e49  No.12018971

>>12018830

Olives are popular in the Mediterranean, I don't what kind of paint you're huffing.

>inb4 Mediterranean Europeans aren't White d&c Kikery


fc2c34  No.12019586

>>12007068

I generally do pretty well on keto, but it probably isn't ideal. Today I eat a dairy-heavy diet with moderate carb and it is the supreme diet.


fc2c34  No.12019589

>>12018830

And milk. If you want to be Aryan, you must eat dairy. If it causes you gas or acne or anything, it's because you probably have nigger genes.


fc2c34  No.12019596

>>12018793

>Humans are long distance runners by nature

Only if you're a nigger or a faggot. Aryans do not run long distance.


4b1c96  No.12019612

>>12007068

I don't buy the "sugar is evil/poison"-meme. If it's so bad, why is our sense of taste so sensible to it? Doesn't make any sense.

Another thing is this "drink more water"-meme. If I am thirsty, I will drink something. If not, then not. What did our ancestors do without people telling them to drink more water 24/7?


f35a3c  No.12019628

File: e6e7ad22d65e9e0⋯.png (1.04 MB, 792x605, 72:55, highmeat.PNG)

Been on Keto for six months. I've lost roughly 40 lbs and I'm in better shape than I was back in high school (I'm in my thirties). I've always been a heavy carnivore but also ate lots of carbs. Now I'm consuming my favorite meats and veggies and I have more energy than before. Bacon and kale are staples for me. My blood sugar has dropped drastically after previously being pre-diabetic. Keto is a godsend for someone like me. I'm working on getting truly fit now that I've lost all the excess weight. Plus I am far more confident in how I look and carry myself. I've always been pretty outgoing, but now I'm on a whole different level. 10/10 would recommend keto to any fucking white male.


62babe  No.12019646

>>12019612

>biology

>physiology

>passage of time

>technology

>genetics

Which or these, or all, are you having a problem with?


f35a3c  No.12019653

>>12019589

>drink milk

Found the faggot who doesn't actually know shit about ketosis. Milk is full of sugars, aka carbs. It is terrible for ketosis. If you want to consume dairy (I agree that dairy is Aryan) you should be consuming high quality cheese (fat and protein) and heavy cream (pure wonderful fat). I eat fresh dark berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries) and whipped grass fed heavy cream for dessert regularly. It's amazing and very keto friendly. Furthermore, if you are not on the keto diet and absolutely cannot live without milk you shouldn't be consuming any milk other than the 100% raw stuff (basically straight from the cow and make sure the cow is on a grass fed diet) Everything else is kiked out and full of estrogens.

TL;DR milk is shit for ketosis but quality cheese and heavy cream is top notch


1ebaea  No.12019724

A lot of misinformation in this thread. Actual keto Anon reporting in, I check my ketones with a blood monitor daily.

Ketosis takes approximately 80% calories from fat, rough estimate.

An adult generally can get by if they stay under 20g carbs per day, but this varies between person. Sometimes called Modified Atkins Diet.

My most recent blood test about 3 months into ketosis I had blood work and my inflammatory markers were so low my doctor asked if I had been taking anti-inflammatories. The only thing that had changed was being on keto. Leads me to suspect "normal" inflammatory markers are high, we just perceive them as normal because we never tested till our diet had been knocked off our evolutionary path.

I feel great on keto but I legit follow my diet and test my blood, usually between 1.3-3.0 mmol/L.


1ebaea  No.12019729

>>12019724

Also intermittently fast for about 14+ hours a day and my first meal is keto coffee with MCT, butter, cocoa butter, and ghee butter.


fc2c34  No.12019753

>>12019653

I don't care about ketosis.


e14d0b  No.12046026

>>12019653

>milk is full of sugars

>i eat berries which have no sugar

>milk is terrible for ketosis

>breastfed babies are in a state of ketosis

Anon, you may mean well but, holly shit, be more thoughtful about your words. Milk is plenty fine since what matters is the proportion of macros in every meal, not so much the source, though source quality does matter, e.g., fatty acids from grass-fed animal products.


e14d0b  No.12046028

>>12019724

>lots of misinformation itt

>ignore my not pointing it out

>actual keto anon

>because all others are fake

Why write this at all then ?

>i check ketones with a blood monitor daily

Good shit. Every person is different and should do exactly this. Pregnant women not eating keto often test in the keto state.

>80% = ketosis

For you.

Breastmilk is ~1% protein, ~7% carb, and ~5% fat; the rest is water and trace disolved minerals.

colostrum has more protein but same fat

Converted to grams for maths.

8g@4cal/g and 5g@8cal/g

protein & carbohydrate = 32cal

fats = 40cal

32+40=72

40÷72=0.55…

BREASTFED BABIES EAT 55% CALORIES FROM FAT

They are is a constant state of ketosis.


e2c91b  No.12046104

File: d32d1fc93c9e0c1⋯.jpeg (92.95 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, trumpspam.jpeg)

>>12007068

Eat this giganigger then fuck off pic.related


2a7207  No.12046109

I eat, don’t care about the rest. I eat what I feel like. Stop obsessing over things that don’t matter.


000000  No.12046357

>>12046104

>>12046109

>t. jews on break from shitting up other threads


000000  No.12046410

>>12019612

It's not, nor does the op say it is or even imply it.

Your body absorbs nutrients via your small intestines and can only do so by absorbing what is in contact with your small intestine surface. If every "particle" of food or individual "unit" of nutrient (3/3) is a carb, then you will get sick from malnutrition; same if it was only protein or fat. If you balance your meals with equal parts protein, carbs, and fat, then 1/3 of the "particles" of food or individual "units" of nutrients are carbs, 1/3 are protein, and 1/3 is fat. The body prefers glucose, which is 1:1 balance of sucrose and fructose, iirc. Too much fructose or sucrose can limit the absorption of other nutrients and minerals by stealing them to aid in using carbs as fuel or by damaging the intestines through high concentrations like liquor or candy. However, carbohydrates hydrate muscle tissue and are required for proper brain function. Eaten in their natural forms, grain, legumes, tubers, roots, and other food products like bread and pasta, are good for you.


000000  No.12046421

>>12046368

>moishe

It's moshe.


44e140  No.12046467

>>12007242

I hear you dude. I am a vegetarian, who would like to be a vegan, but I haven't been able to give up cheese…I keep trying. The casomorphin in milk and cheese products is very addicting. I want to be a vegan…I tried cutting down on cheese but I swear it is an addiction. I can't stand regular morphine, I would honestly rather be in extreme pain than feel that shit in my veins, but the casomorphin is really difficult to let go of since I have been an addict from childhood. I guess it is like quitting smoking, we just keep trying until we achieve our goal. It is brutal. I admire your resolve.


5d5d2b  No.12046521

>>12046026

Technically, you will be in some degree of ketosis if you are eating less than about 100g of carbs per day. It will just not be deep ketosis or producing so much that you're pissing them out. Unless you are drinking over half a gallon of milk a day, it is not going to push you beyond that threshold. If you want moderate ketosis, you can do less than 100g and intermittent fasting, with all your carbs being post workout


5d5d2b  No.12046529

>>12046467

Why would you ever want to be a vegan? Vegetarian is enough if you have any ethical reason, and there are no health reasons to be vegan. It's nonsensical.


44e140  No.12046573

>>12046529

The casomorphin causes my skin to itch. It is that same feeling of having morphine rush through and dilate all your blood vessels from the inside, like you have something crawling on/under your skin; which makes you fidget and itchy just like a morphine rush but a little more mild. The result is that I am constantly touching my face/skin and it causes acne. The more milk products I consume the more fidgety and itchy I am, the worse the acne. When I go without milk products the itching and acne disappears. Then I go into withdrawals, freak out eat a whole bunch of cheese/dairy and start the whole process over again.


5d5d2b  No.12046587

>>12046573

Ah, so you're a nigger


d77066  No.12046589

Paleo keto dieter here. I've stumbled upon methionine restriction lately. I think vegan keto every couple of days is an untapped game changer. A day of methionine restriction (20g of protein or less) stimulates autophagy, so you consume dead organelles and debris (cancer prone cells). It also increases insulin sensitivity. Eat healthy and normal protein other days though.

intermittent methionine restriction


44e140  No.12046613

>>12046573

No I am NOT A NIGGER you faggot


44e140  No.12046658

File: 4d2bc60f0fe7622⋯.png (314.86 KB, 914x650, 457:325, lactose intolerance worldw….png)

>>12046587

0-20% of my own people, Germans, are lactose intolerant…but I am not 'lactose intolerant'…I am 'morphine sensitive' you dick and I wouldn't be surprised if many other Germanics were as morphine/casomorphin intolerant as well.

Who are you anyway, the fucking Diary Council sponsor assigned to /pol/?


5c6779  No.12046685

File: 9dd35a0fd42fe01⋯.jpg (68.35 KB, 923x713, 923:713, 1533441981791.jpg)

>>12010641

Lies. But what would we expect from a parasitic kike?


599996  No.12047443

I'm not sure if I have will and inncome to go pure paleo. What about samurai diet?


d7b422  No.12047451

Milk and dairy products are what enabled our ancestors to spread over Europe and Asia Minor. Every self-respecting white man should incorporate milk, butter, cheese, yogurt, or kefir into their diet. In addition, the ingestion of pork separates us from the Abrahamic cults, and is so central to our diet that Christianity is the only one that doesn't ban it. So be sure to enjoy plenty of bacon, sausage, ham, and pork chops when you so desire. Fermented vegetables like pickles or sauerkraut are also musts, as they helped our ancestors survive through the long winters.


de418c  No.12047733

>>12007687

>More than that probably goes to waste

excess protein gets turned into glucose, same as carbs


5c6779  No.12048689

File: a329f00fde0aa31⋯.gif (9.12 KB, 300x250, 6:5, 1531891480317.gif)

>>12047443

What's the samurai diet? I'm guessing it's similar to an eskimo's.

I'm currently on about 1/3 carbs fat and protein as I'm training hard at the moment. Normally I'd be on less carbs, although the only carbs I have is rice.

I have to agree, running on less carbs does feel better, cleaner I guess, but everyone perceives it in different ways. I never got this flu or anything, but I did find myself craving sugar a lot at first


b1b529  No.12049110

>>12048689

Basicly paleo with white rice, dairy and some other shit that is haram in paleo


601d95  No.12051989

File: ae27a210b212ebd⋯.jpg (39.99 KB, 431x386, 431:386, Obese woman lots of meat a….jpg)

>>12047451

Sure it is seriously healthy…that is why all our people look so healthy nowadays.


44e140  No.12052434

File: f47c944ee7771fc⋯.jpg (318.54 KB, 1000x792, 125:99, The Hannah Hays with Nigge….jpg)

>>12047443

I wish /pol/ would go on a diet.


1a0425  No.12054208

File: 60add77bcb8674b⋯.jpg (157.47 KB, 760x430, 76:43, 60add77bcb8674b9c37450477a….jpg)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180823110827/https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-speaker-busts-coconut-oil-health-myth-calling-it-pure-poison-2018-8

are you guys sure about coconut oil?


1d067d  No.12054244

I drink a lot of soda, usually 4-6 cans a day, or 38g of sugar each. Obviously that's bad. But sugar is a carb and that counts as fibres? Is that why my guts are fairly regular, despite my shit diet?

Also, I have a nut allergy and work a minimum wage mcjob. I can't exactly have steak or eat out every day. What are some good quick cheap sources of protein then?


6b9736  No.12054775

File: 3dc326a173de795⋯.jpg (84.58 KB, 500x475, 20:19, lizardpissfuck.jpg)

>>12007242

>Smart post Anon. I do construction in 100+° heat for 11 hours a day five days a week

look at this scorched cunt exhibiting the dangers of working outside without wearing a fucking sunhat. 30 is 5 minutes from 50, faggot, ditch those cigarettes (I did at 39 and it was almost too late for my lungs after 27 years of smoking) and don't indulge in spirits too often if you want to keep passing beer through your kidneys (learned this the hard way).

For those trying to stop drinking don't tell yourself you will never drink again, tell yourself you will definitely have a beer again some day but there is no real urgency for that day to arrive, leave your options open.

Same thing with DON'T PANIC, those words could cause pansied faggots to freeze while they mentally tear their panties to pieces, PANIC LATER leaves you free to act now and shit yourself when the danger has passed.

Apologies up front if that last paragraph gets anyone white killed.


6b9736  No.12054862

File: 8b8db5ee0e7c3d2⋯.png (357.29 KB, 527x405, 527:405, the-warriors-luther1.png)

>>12054262

>a woman would have to

>-wash dishes

>-sew

>-do laundry

>-mop and sweep

>-actually cook and make dough from scratch

my missus does all those things, some regularly.

>-give her man a sold hand job

# I'm with Trump - this must be fake news. I had to listen to mine whine `how long is this going to take?' four, five, six, seven maybe eight times before I told her she was sacked and I can do it better anyway.

I would consider doing all her chores if she tugged my lad while I was doing them.


08d1a0  No.12055005

>>12054244

All fibres are carbs but not all carbs are fibre. Those sugars in soda are not fibres and are actually totally poison to your body


e14d0b  No.12058713

File: 17a50fe4d42f215⋯.jpg (59.86 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, boomer.jpg)

>>12054208

>karin michels

Pic related is the lady.


e14d0b  No.12058726

>>12054208

>woman

>speech

>at harvard

>in /nu/german

>actual boomer

Now, I don't discriminate because of these things but, let me explain how stupid this lady is and why she might be part of an attempt at prolonging the hormone-imbalance-as-a-result-of-malnutrition problem that has caused the fifty-year increase in gay, low-t, and crossdresser communities all over the world.

She makes two arguments:

1. That coconut oil is "toxic" because of it's saturated fat content

2. That there are no studies that validate coconut oil's positive affects on health

>what about studies on the positive effects of saturated fat

>what about studies on the negative effects of coconut oil

When in reality:

Saturated fats is a precursor to major steroid production functions of the body, such as cholesterol and sex hormones. Mitochondria, which are the cpu of every cell, require cholesterol for biogenesis and membrane maintenance, and for the synthesis of steroids, oxysterols, and hepatic bile acids.

>healing

>as the body repairs itself from damage associated with physical, mental, and emotional stress

TL;DR

Cholesterol and Vitamin D are required for proper cell funtion. Saturated fat is the precursor to these.

Sources:

Dietary Saturated Fatty Acids Increase Cholesterol Synthesis and Fecal Steroid Excretion in Healthy Men and Women

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8281983

Important Derivatives of Cholesterol Include Bile Salts and Steroid Hormones

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22339/

Mitochondrial Cholesterol: Mechanisms of Import and Effects on Mitochondrial Function

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25425472

Cellular and Molecular Mechanisms of Mitochondrial Function

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3513836/

Vitamin D Receptor Is Necessary for Mitochondrial Function and Cell Health

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6032156/

Also, it is important to synthesize Vitamin D via sautrated fats/cholesterol since supplementing it long-term causes issues:

Safety Issues of Vitamin D Supplementation

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23094916

Vitamin D Supplementation Causes a Decrease in Blood Cholesterol in Professional Rowers

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27264092

Increase of circulating cholesterol in vitamin D deficiency is linked to reduced vitamin D receptor activity via the Insig-2/SREBP-2 pathway

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26694996

The last study here suggests that if you do not kinetically (movement) or ultra-violetly (sun exposure) use the serum cholesterol the body synthesizes from saturated fat, it builds up in your blood as a plaque. Supplementing Vitamin D aids in the non-use of serum cholesterol.

And dietary cholesterol doesn't affect serum cholesterol levels; eating over 9000 eggs, for example:

Panel Suggests That Dietary Guidelines Stop Warning About Cholesterol in Food

>health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warning-about-cholesterol-in-food-201502127713

Dr. Ronald Krauss on LDL Cholesterol, Particle Size, Heart Disease, & Atherogenic Dyslipidemia

>foundmyfitness.com/episodes/ronald-krauss


e14d0b  No.12058732

File: a44745fbd2d6abf⋯.pdf (2.25 MB, cholesterol-yale.pdf)

>>12058713

>>12058726

Cellular Control of Cholesterol


8984fe  No.12058735

I'm doing intermittent fasting and I dropped 2 inches from my waist and almost 10 lbs in 3 weeks. I'm still obese. I only eat for 4-5 hours (basically 2 meals) a day and fast for the rest. Sometimes my meals are low carb and sometimes they're not. I'm going to transition to lower carb/keto style soon.


562c75  No.12058746

I totally support this, but you definately want cornfinished beef, or better yet bison or venison. My family raises beef and we live in the corn belt. Ive tried grassfed. Its not good. No reason to go that far for historical accuracy imo. Just avoid the hormone riddled stuff.


97d1f8  No.12058773

Keto is for fatasses to lose weight fast. There's no point to be on keto if you're healthy. Plus, if you stay on it too long it can cause vitamin deficiencies.


000000  No.12058831

>>12054244

Yeah, beans are great source of protein and fibre.

But anon, please stop drinking soda.

Switch to kombucha, which is naturally fermented soda invented by the chinks.

Or at least make your own soda.

https://www.homebrewing.org/How-to-Make-Soda_ep_44-1.html

https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/50-homemade-sodas

https://www.fix.com/blog/how-to-make-homemade-soda/

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Soda

They even make a machine.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/best-soda-makers-4091721

https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/20/the-best-soda-maker/


000000  No.12058879

>>12058746

Grass-fed meats taste better because the animal is healthier.

They also have a better fatty acid profile.

>grain is grass seed

>animals only fed the seed are eating too much sugar and not enough fibre or nutrients, as the husk and bran are removed

Grain-fed animals can have more fat but fat is where the animals store toxins. Strong chad grass-fed animals have less toxins stored in their fat than their fat grain-fed counterparts. But it isn't just the diet, it is the lifestyle. Barn-caged animals are unhealthy and need to be pasture-raised in the sun where they can walk up and down hills and sleep under trees.


3d1f43  No.12059465

>>12058773

>if you stay on it too long it can cause vitamin deficiencies.

Fake news.

>>12058879

Yeah, grass fed has more DHA/EPA and CLA. Good shit. I'm too broke to buy it, so I get some grass fed butter and only eat lean meat, which saves money and gives similar nutrition.


e6b1fd  No.12059599

I think this is slightly related.

Is pig meat actually bad?


000000  No.12060799

>>12007562

(1)

Look out lads, this thread bothers (((them.)))


3d1f43  No.12060953

>>12059599

I think it's fine. The fat profile is where most criticism comes from, but I am of the understanding that this is only an issue if fat consumption is low. The omega 3:6 ratio hypothesis has not panned out afaik. Increased intake of omega 6 such as linoleic acid does not increase potentially inflammatory arachidonic acid content in cell membranes as long as intake of DHA and EPA are sufficient, so it is more important to ensure you are getting enough EPA and DHA than to worry about limiting omega 6. If you are worried about it, there is always stuff like low fat ham, which is relatively cheap so you can get your fat elsewhere.


e550b1  No.12061032

File: 44766e85f17b537⋯.jpg (100.04 KB, 800x246, 400:123, Zwijnen[1].jpg)

>>12059599

Pigs absorb whatever garbage they eat into their fat more easily. And they will eat absolutely any garbage put in front of them. They are definition omnivore, we ain't got shit on them. So a pig which eats dirty becomes dirty.

This is why middle eastern religions ban pork. Pigs in ancient middle east would roam the streets and literally eat shit, carcasses, piss, garbage and vomit.

Now consider the classic european view of pork. Pigs on their natural diet of roots, mushrooms, and whatever dead animals they can scavenge are healthy. In the forest the dead are eaten long before they can rot.


000000  No.12061057

>>12061032

>middle eastern religions ban pork because pigs are dirty

We frankly have no idea why some religions banned pork. We can guess but there is no definitive answer.


e550b1  No.12061064

>>12061057

It literally says in both the bible and the koran that pigs are "unclean". That is explicitly the reason. We know why they would think that because they would eat garbage and shit.


51cbb8  No.12061198

>>12007192

>Dairy is not healthy

By the Gods of Hibernia be gone southman and leave our bog butter be


4bf52f  No.12061223

>>12061057

Well, there is a definitive answer. Pigs were considered dirty. It's written all over the various religious texts and the bible, torah and koran, as well as the latter two's accompanying talmud and countless hadiths. There no confusion as to why pork was banned. Pigs are believed to be filthy animals because they will eat anything, and the filth they eat becomes part of their meat, blood, and organs.

Idgaf about any of that. Pork tastes awesome. But there's no question about the reasons so many peoples, religions and cultures banned their consumption


000000  No.12061239

>>12061064

Ironic considering pigs are some of the cleanest animals.


cfb49a  No.12061295

File: dd00ef4b5e610d2⋯.jpg (52.24 KB, 640x360, 16:9, guy heaven.jpg)

>>12047451

This is good advice. Only niggers can't drink milk.

Steak, fish, eggs, onions, garlic, broccoli, yogurt, kale, spinach, nuts, and you're set.


6e31ba  No.12065888

>>12061064

>>12061223

>>12061239

>Ironic considering pigs are some of the cleanest animals.

The specific reason why jews banned the consumption of pork is because they have a terrible gastrointestinal system that can't properly digest a specific protein found in pork meat. Look up pork meat sensitivity. Jews are famously bad at digesting things because of their famously bad immune system. Gastrointestinal problems translate to autoimmune issues. They're unable to tolerate so many food groups and that includes pork, because of the pork protein.


0ae985  No.12065917

File: e8bf0eca501d47d⋯.jpg (31.82 KB, 751x418, 751:418, kys.jpg)

>fibre

>drink 10 cups of water

>eat diverse

>Do not support homogenization of people.

Jesus fuck, why is this shit thread up? Kill yourself, OP.


000000  No.12084776

>>12065917

>matza

>drink 10 cups of blood

>eat foreskins

>racemix

I am sure you wish it said this instead, jewanon.


000000  No.12084791

>>12059465

Good shit but grass-fed and pasture-raised animals are cheaper to raise and cost the same to slaughter. Only places that also sell the grain-fed animal products are going to have higher prices for grass-fed and pasture-raised because they are charging for the label and the concept. Grain production is subsidized and actually costs quite a bit more than grass. Find a local farmer and buy a half cow or pig. Much easier on the pockets. You will need a large freezer for all the cuts.


a10d8d  No.12084974

>>12007068

>Do not support homogenization in any form, not of milk, beer, gut flora, or people.

>Do not support homogeneous cultures.

Fuck off kike.


000000  No.12085010

>>12084974

>in chemistry, homogenization is any of several processes used to make a mixture of two mutually non-soluble liquids the same throughout

>in cell biology or molecular biology research, homogenization is a process whereby a biological sample is brought to a state such that all fractions of the sample are equal in composition

It means racemixing, anon.

DO NOT RACEMIX


a10d8d  No.12085020

>>12085010

>homogeneous

>1 : of the same or a similar kind or nature

The OP is pushing for a (((diverse))) society under guise of helping through food. As he states that 50% of calories from fat is good, which is entirely untrue. 1/3 is max I've read about.


a10d8d  No.12085021

Oh fuck me I'm responding to a TORkike.


8f07ff  No.12085026

>>12007817

I've just always done this and never noticed anything


7e3837  No.12085065

Keto for few months, going great for wife and me.

Problem at moment is we noticed the meat we buy from supermarkets and butchers now has potato starch (along with the water and other crap) injected inside of them.

So the meat has carbs as well as the needed protein.

I know obviously could jump to another butcher, but selection is limited and i'm unsure i could even trust the others - (muslim owned etc. Have little choice because we live inside of a city in the UK)


8f07ff  No.12085157

>>12085065

potato starch? What teh fuck?


7e3837  No.12085190

>>12085157

https://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/products/potato-starch-for-meat/

apparently makes texture better and it retains water during cooking.

At the same time, makes the raw chicken weigh more so you get charged more for less.


c9d366  No.12085363

File: 89891d7935ee046⋯.jpg (128.93 KB, 735x1922, 735:1922, 89891d7935ee0466ad74a05f60….jpg)

>>12007068

It's mostly probiotic foods I eat. I actually make my yogurt with an instant pot and strain it into greek yogurt. I'm also in the process of fermenting kombucha tea and my own pickles since all the store bought ones have vinegar which kills the good bacteria. Sourdough bread and blue cheese are also rich in good bacteria as well. Oats, bananas, honey, and apple cider vinegar feed the good bacteria. Try ginger beer as well some time. I'm going to learn how to make my own cheese once I get all the hiccups with pickles figured out. It said to ferment for 4 days. They're soggy, but still potent in terms of bacteria. It's all trial and error as always.


1dddbc  No.12085384

>>12085363

Thank you for that image, saved.


000000  No.12111993

>>12085020

To be fair, it says 1/3 by volume.

But it also should be by weight, since calories per gram is a weight measurement. Then it maths to 50% calories from fat.

>>12085021

>oy vey

>separating ip from routing is what jews would do

:^)


f30b9d  No.12112022

File: 24f4dc351328ebb⋯.jpeg (183.03 KB, 736x2217, 736:2217, prebiotics.jpeg)

>>12085363

Prebiotics are mostly non-soluble plant fiber that act as a fertilizer for the flora found in probiotic foods. My favorite is psyllium husk but corn husk and bean husk, usually in cornbread and chili, are also good for me.


e14d0b  No.12112030

>>12085020

>europeans not being the same as africans is bad

I guess you could consider milk from one cow or a batch of beer as already homoginized with itself.


e55772  No.12112286

>>12058831

i brewed kombucha myself for quite some time.

i tell you, kombucha is not really good to drink in large amounts. it still has high caffeine, and quite some sugar in it. it is highly acidic and will fuck up your teeth enamel.

drink it like a shot, no sipping!

if you buy it in the store, it has to be non fermented or it is basically completly useless.


1815e2  No.12112309

>>12015088

How do i detox from years of drinking from plastic bottles and yearas from drinking artificial sweeteners?


e55772  No.12112316

i think humans understand jackshit about nutrition.

putting things in categories like carbs protein and fats wont be around in 100 years+

also, parasites might have been symbionts in past times. in the wild, the only food you can find all the time was meat. it was most likely that you have parasites, eating raw meat after you hunted for along time.

also toxoplasma gondi is omnipresent and even has some evolutionary benefits (more risk taking behaviour in males observed in a study, more entrepreneurs have it)

>>12061295

the massai want to have a word with you.

(The Maasai and their Diet. The Maasai are a pastoralist tribe living in Kenya and Northern Tanzania. Their traditional diet consists almost entirely of milk, meat, and blood.)

>>12061295

if you think that you should eat garlic daily you are brainwashed. this is seen as a medical herb through cultures.

on pigs: the desert religions all banned pigs because they literally eat the food we are eating too. there is no real benefit in having them. so if food is scarce there are no leftovers to feed the pig with. people do not gave a damn shit about the hygiene standards of today, it has reasons economically.

meanwhile animals like cows or goat will eat grass just fine, not competing with humans for leftover foods etc. that is why the pig is frowned upon in these areas. if it would be a hygiene issue then other cultures would have forbid the eating of meat aswell. it has to do with climate


e55772  No.12112333

>>12058773

not if you eat liver regularly. it has the highest amount of vitamins that are hard to find in other food.

give me sources for vitamin a to get to the RDA. And if you tell me about beta carotine, please calculate how much you will be transferring into vitamin a.

I will sit here waiting for you.


e55772  No.12112342

File: 86dd15d004cbef9⋯.png (113.1 KB, 1826x943, 1826:943, liver nutritional facts 10….png)

>>12112333

pic attached. find me a food that has this much vitamin a

problem is people stopped eating organ meats. stopped drinking blood. became huge pussies


e55772  No.12112359

>>12008746

please do your homework.

keto causes testosterone levels to crash because it gives more permability to the blood brain barrier and mitochondria.

if you think testosterone levels say anything about anything, you are brainwashed. it is way more important how good the testosterone receptors can uptake the testosterone than its levels circulating in your blood.

if they really had a worse hormone function, why do they not lose muscle mass? why do they not get any of the symptoms associated with low testosterone?

lurk more.


e55772  No.12112393

>>12015088

heavy metal toxins bind to fat mostly. so if you get rid of the fat, you get rid of them too. thats what i know about detoxing.

but you really should not be worried too much about it i think. also cilantro gets thrown around as detox herb all the time, i have not investigated this topic yet.


d7bb97  No.12112398

>>12018324

this guy is living the life


5a16af  No.12112407

Anyone making the mistake of reading this clusterfuck, don't listen to retards here spouting nonsense. Read real information from real scientists who look at real studies for their data: http://raypeat.com/articles

Keto is inflammatory and raises estrogen levels. Legumes are a bad source of protein, they are inflammatory and contain polyunsaturated fats which are toxic and raise estrogen levels. Raw milk is hipster nonsense. Pasteurization is killing bacteria using a low heat. It does not hurt the milk, it simply makes it so you don't get food poisoning from it. Your gut has very little to do with your immune system, and you do not need a wide variety of foods. Even 80 years ago it was clearly established using long term human trials that humans are much healthier on a diet of glucose syrup, potato starch, purified milk protein and vitamins than they are on a normal diet.


5a16af  No.12112415

>>12054208

Yes. That woman has no evidence to support her claim, she just insists saturated fat (the only kind that is safe to eat) is bad because she wants it to be. In reality, unsaturated fats are toxic and are the cause of the huge increase in obesity, diabetes, alzheimers, etc. http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsuitablefats.shtml


192e0f  No.12112426

>>12007068

>store all your food in plastics

>dont eat fresh, meal prep and eat it stale a week later

i wonder who is behind this trend.


297760  No.12112435

>>12112426

>dont eat fresh, meal prep and eat it stale a week later

I've been wondering because if you have to prepare all your food yourself, and if you'd want to maximize freshness, theoretically you'd have to go grocery shopping several times a week (so you don't have to cook with ingredients that have been laying around for a week and lost a bunch of nutrients) and cook every day. Now if you have a proper wife that wouldn't be much of an issue, but a single guy working fulltime will then spend a lot of time preparing food if he doesn't cook in batches an freeze / refrigerate a lot of it. Time that could be used on improving oneself in other areas.


5a16af  No.12112459

>>12112435

Short term preservation of food is trivially easy. Keep air out of it and keep it cold. You do not need everything to always be fresh, we are white. We evolved to handle winter. You handle winter by preserving food. None of our ancestors ate fresh food year round. We always smoked, salted, dehydrated, froze, fermented, etc our foods.


00f208  No.12112672

File: 8938af808f5aa33⋯.jpg (148.29 KB, 1125x1500, 3:4, nettle.jpg)

File: fd7cdd9b7919915⋯.jpeg (77.43 KB, 704x396, 16:9, VonBingen.jpeg)

>>12007068

>Eat As Your Ancestors Did

>Promotes Keto instead of an ancestral diet

People who promote Keto, Atkins of high-fat diets are straining themselves to avoid dealing with their forefathers and race, the elephant in the room. Every organism must eat the food its ancestors ate to remain healthy. Sheep must eat grass or foilage, Chickens must eat grains or insects and humans, depending on the race of their forefathers must eat a modern ancestral diet, a combination of meat, sea food, weeds, nuts & berries; Historically, men ate more sea food & meat and women ate more nuts, weeds & berries. Of course we conquered many more food sources, but that's our dietary foundation, so let's call it what it is:

ANCESTRAL DIET

HISTORICAL DIET


c9d366  No.12114385

>>12112022

I've been consuming metamucil ever since I had gastritis. It's been a while since I had cornbread. The only bread I've been eating was sourdough due to the wild yeast it contained. Guess I'll add cornbread to my diet if it's that potent.


4dcee3  No.12114648

File: de8228b5d547298⋯.jpg (159.45 KB, 791x1024, 791:1024, 395OldwaysMDP_1000px-791x1….jpg)

>>12007068

There is so much conflicting information out there. I was told by a doctor that keto is bad for you in long terms. He recommended that I stick to a Mediterranean diet. However if you live in the USA, such a diet is expensive and is hard to find clean ingredients. I tried keto once and your main source of fat you get from GMO hormone enriched dairy products (milk, yogurt, butter..ect). So I am skeptical of this sort of diet.

I always wondered if you should eat according to the season if that makes any sense. Considering if we were living like our ancestors did, we would not be able to eat any fruit or veggies during winter which would imply a high meat diet.

Can any anons recommend me some self improvement lists for optimal energy (both physical and mental)? I am on the process of getting fit (187 lbs and getting toned) but with university being strenuous, my brain is always fogged up and slow from all of the work I have to do.


00f208  No.12115422

File: 2f11ee423558818⋯.jpg (20.69 KB, 625x411, 625:411, 2f11ee423558818663defacbff….jpg)

>>12114648

>There is so much conflicting information out there

It's not difficult to see who is lying or does not know what they are talking about.

>I was told by a doctor

Who cares? Most of them are clueless about anything that doesn't involve subscribing pill a for symptom b, they are nothing but pharmaceutical salesmen.

> I always wondered if you should eat according to the season

Of course. The food is generally local, therefore fresh & cheap.

>my brain is always fogged up and slow from all of the work I have to do.

Almost always a result of a poor diet and not enough detox

>Can any anons recommend me some self improvement lists for optimal energy

- Look into fasting. Not eating anything every now and then is probably the cheapest way to get healthy. It also opens up the opportunity to buy expensive food that you would not be able to afford if you ate three meals a day.

- Eat healthy & have a positive mindset, because there's absolutely no viable alternative.

- Stay away from overly processed & prepared food

- Eat fresh, raw & green things with every meal

- Take a walk in nature, you can't reach peak-health while you're getting bombarded with artificial chemicals, fragrances, lights, etc.

- Gravitate towards fruits & nuts from perennial plants with deep roots (trees & shrubs), because the state of our agriculturally used fields with a few exceptions is absolutely abysmal and anything that grows on them is devoid of important nutrients.

- Grow your own food, Even a window sill is better than nothing.

You don't have to believe anyone. Try different diets for 2-3 weeks, see how you feel, take notes and then decide if it's the diet for you.


00f208  No.12115467

>>12115422

* prescribing pill a for symptom b


41b85d  No.12115494

>>12115422

how often and how long to fast?


00f208  No.12115636

>>12115494

If you just want to cleanse your body, you should do a water melon or grapes fast. Eat one large meal of watermelon or grapes a day and when you are thirsty eat watermelon or grapes to quench your thirst. Do that for 3-4 days with some aerobic and anaerobic exercise and you should feel as good as new.

Fasting without food is a skill that requires more practice, you need to condition your body, it needs to learn to burn fat, consume itself and get by with less. Start with intermittent fasting - later breakfast, earlier dinner and work your way up. Depending on how skilled you are you can go 3-4 days without eating and not feel hungry or tired and you only eat more when you have to perform heavy physical work. It's very rewarding and great for your mental health.


0fd6b5  No.12115660

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12114648

Remember, full keto/complete ketosis is aimed mainly to control epilepsy, diabetes, cholesterol and is especially effective for losing weight. What would be the best for many is modified keto, just a little more carbs with all the beneficial effects. What the video, watch the second video below too. Keto might be bad for your metabolism long term, there is no scientific data out yet, that is why for me at least, carb cycling is the best. I have attained the ability to switch between fats and carbs very fast, so I stay low carb for 4 to 12 weeks, and eat more carbs for 1 to 4 weeks, whatever makes you feel better. Unlike many other diets, ketosis takes time to set in, so if you are going to give it a try, do it for 12 to 20 weeks.

Keto is expensive almost everywhere in the world mate but you can do it for as little as 7 dollars/day. The major problem for the majority would b, stop seeing food as pure pleasure and more as fuel, still taking pleasure on the food you are eating, with this mindset you can go keto for cheap. The best diets for optimal energy at both levels are any variant of low carb. Keto is low carb, paleo is, a bunch of others is. Keto is the most radical, thus hardest. Eating seasonally is the best option because you save a lot, another tip is going to your local farmers market and developing relationships, with time you get way better prices. Learn where and how to buy cheap at supermarkets too.


0fd6b5  No.12115669

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12114648

Second video, watch both. Whatever you do, remember to eat enough protein, we can live without all other food sources, but not without animal fat and protein.


faac52  No.12115718

phd in a biological field, ask me anything.


4dcee3  No.12116611

>>12115660

I have tried grass fed meat before and it was fucking delicious. The only drawback is that it's expensive and only have meat available by the season. I do have a few raised bed gardens in my backyard (kale, swiss chard, green beans, broccoli, mustard greens, spinach) that I plan to harvest late fall


4dcee3  No.12116617

>>12115422

I appreciate the time you took to type this.

What is recommended that you do during fasting? I always associate it with abrahamic religious things.


82ae4b  No.12116656

File: d0766e82c189988⋯.jpg (102.58 KB, 485x542, 485:542, 1524001283781.jpg)

Does anyone here have a PDF of "the zero carb diet" by Borge Fagerli they could drop


82ae4b  No.12116673

>>12112407

>Ray Peat

>real scientists

lad…


83ef80  No.12116735

Don't do this. This is literally what soyboys do : spend ridiculous money on "food suplements" and other so called nutritions rich foods, pills, and other kind of shit. My ancestors ate meat, from the cattle of their own farm. They drank milk from the same source. They also ate vegetables they were harvesting on their own garden, and doing pastries with crops of good cereals from the locals. Not keto, or boxes of nutriment pills and other scams (who produces these ? who sells them ? :^) it's me, goyim, your favorite (((merchant)))). Enough and off with this soyfaggotry. You look like those hipsters making homebrewed soy beer, that buy and apply more makeup than women and have a barber shape their beard every 3 days.


f2283d  No.12116821

File: 2037c915338f2a1⋯.png (239.05 KB, 736x1024, 23:32, bacteria.png)

>>12116617

Fasting is completely natural. You've done it thousands of times in your life at night and every morning you break fast. It's simple only requires a little bit of willpower. Start by extending your nocturnal fast, skip meals, get used to burning fat and once you're comfortable you can go for one day and one night without food (and water if you like)

It's a good idea to exercise a little bit and shower at least once a day during your first fasts, because things that usually leave your body with your stool and urin have to leave through your skin and lungs during a fast, in addition to that some bacteria that live in your mouth and gut start to die (not on day one though) and your body starts sweating out all sorts of nasty smelling substances. As a result you'll probably feel & smell pretty awful during your first fast, especially if you have never detoxed. During subsequent fasts you'll feel light, warm, serene and calm. A fast has a big impact on your mental state and mind; energy that is usually diverted to your gut is made available to your brain. It's pretty cool.


8d2e89  No.12117525

How do I kick my sugar addiction? I've tried many times. Last time was in spring. I knew it would suck, but I told myself I would not give up this time. I quit cold turkey, and felt like shit as expected. But it never got better. For 3 whole months I was deeply depressed. I would start randomly crying like a fucking baby. I had no energy, when I wasn't working I was in bed. Didn't even have the energy to play vidya or watch movies. One day I felt really messed up and grabbed a candy bar because fuck it. 2 fucking minutes after eating it I felt completely fine again, after almost being suicidal for 3 months. I should add that the actual sugar cravings went away after like 10 days, but mentally I was a complete mess. I eat good foods. Veggies, chicken, fish, and rice mainly. Any advice for me?


18b4ca  No.12117635

>>12117525

Fast and drink some organic apple vinegar diluted in some water. That killed my cravings.


613c90  No.12118067

>>12054775

Yeah, im 30 and cutting the booze hard. Would swill beer every night for like 8 years. Doesnt feel bad not drinking just have to ditch my favorite pass time (camping) cuz idk what im gonna do teetotalling around a camp fire. Ditching cigs is harder. Using a douche flute (vape stick) to try and ween off smoking.


01ae4a  No.12118961

>>12007068

>Minimum ~50% calories from Fats.

Your basis for Keto diets are wrong. You only need high fat percentage of your calories if you are a GROWING child. That diet was created to treat epilepsy in GROWING children. If you eat jars of mayonaise you are going to get fat keto or not. Stop trying to make /pol/acks fat.


82ae4b  No.12119044

>>12118961

You need high % of fat regardless, unless you're planning on eating 500g of protein a day or something.


dd0768  No.12122467

>>12117635

But I did manage to beat my cravings. My problem was that I stayed mentally messed up for several months, long after my cravings were gone.


5a16af  No.12124400

File: c0d1bfe522d7031⋯.png (16.66 KB, 380x336, 95:84, 1290182106412.png)

>>12116673

>scientists aren't scientists unless they tell me what I want to hear

>journalists are totally scientists though!111


a32d3f  No.12124423

>>12118961

You shouldn't be eating mayonaise in the first place. It's primarily just soybean oil and canola oil. The good fats are monounsaturated and saturated fats with select few polyunsaturated fats such as omega 3s.


3b100b  No.12124444

The only way to decide this is by selecting champions to represent each diet faction and have them battle to the death. The superior diet will translate into the superior lifestyle and superior physique. I envision paleo monsters seizing spindly vegans by their ankles and using them as temporarily living weapons against malnourished vegetarians, driven toward their ranks by pursuing keto fags, who are slowed in their pursuit by their lack of carb loading, while everyone ignores the fasters until last as they are too lethargic to do much of anything.


f24eb1  No.12128843

NONE of you fuckfaces even mentioned BLOOD TYPE DIET!


cccdd9  No.12130039

My ancestors didn't eat like that. They ate roast beef, potatoes, corn, and strudel.


e50131  No.12130070

>>12007068

> EAT KETO

< posts fridge full of carbs including high glycemic fruits

nigger are you retarded?


dc9b9b  No.12130240

>>12058713

Literally a kike


3acf16  No.12132887

do not eat zero carb. your body needs carbs for the production of mucus.

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/11/dangers-of-zero-carb-diets-ii-mucus-deficiency-and-gastrointestinal-cancers/


5a16af  No.12132944

>>12130039

Ancestors doesn't just mean the last 400 years dude.

>>12124423

Monounsaturated is not good, it just isn't as bad as polyunsaturated. You do not need any omega 3s, that's a con to make a market for fish that nobody wants to eat. Now they can catch all of them and grind them into goo and sell it because they have conned people into thinking it is healthy when all it does is slightly offset all the bad polyunsaturated fats in fish and they would have been better off just not eating fish at all. Saturated fats are the only safe fats. Olive oil has antioxidants that make it safe even though it is monounsaturated. Never eat any plant based fat other than coconut oil and olive oil.


9e5d7c  No.12133105

I can’t keep track of it all, almost nothing is consistent…


da544e  No.12133882

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

What is with this push for liberal-hippy organic bullshit?

You can literally plant a couple plants in the dirt and have perfect food all tear round…but noooo. Eat this expensive shit and read about how we think your body works…

The capitalist mentality assumes that anyone not specifically trying to help you is deliberately trying to hurt you and more than likely just a scheme to rob you.

Just listen to these two kikes talk about stupid shit. Its not natural.

Andyes…daily reminder? Joe rogan is most definetly a kike.


c37f53  No.12134014

>>12016141

You shouldn't be getting the majority of your calories from meat dumbass.


e14d0b  No.12134174

File: 2691368463a8d3c⋯.webm (2.11 MB, 640x360, 16:9, varsity.webm)

>>12112393

I think all toxins store in fat, which is part of why people get sick when they first start burning fats as fuel.

>>12112426

I just picked a colorful picture of fruits and vegetables so I can find it easily in the catalog. My sister meal preps for her varsity cheer team once a week and suggested I find a pic. She also just beat up a giant nigger, so there's that.


e14d0b  No.12134185

>>12114648

>keto is bad for you in long terms

The best way is to get tested to find out how much and what kind of resources your body uses, since we are all a bit different. Otherwise you are just guessing.

>mediterranean diet

Not if you are Northern European.

>diet is expensive

Local non-subsidized foods are cheaper. Unless you live in or near a major city, then you pay more for "local" and "organic" even though producing it costs much less.

>clean ingredients

>not gmo hormone enriched

Produce your own. A single plant of each herb you use can last a lifetime. Salad greens and kale grow fast, easy, and cheap. Onions, especially green onions, and garlic grow easy and reproduce almost indefinitely. Chickens are cheap and make eggs almost daily. If you have land, milk can be produced locally. And if you fish and hunt, you will have the most healthful and inexpensive meat ever. Find a local farmer and buy grain and make it into breads and pastas.

>eat according to the season

Yes. More so for southies than northies, since food preservation and fermentation are Nordic. Get a seasonal produce calender wheel and use that as a guide.

>my brain is always fogged up and slow

Thinking takes more energy than doing. Eat more, especially protein, and move around more than you sit. Read

MOVE YOUR DNA

By Katy Bowman

>&

BECOMING THE ICEMAN

By Wim Hof


e14d0b  No.12134187

File: c87c878ec0585a9⋯.png (933.69 KB, 676x900, 169:225, dom.png)

>>12112407

>real information from real scientists

Like Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

>polyunsaturated fats are toxic

I do not disagree but can you even explain how they are "toxic" ?

>raw milk is hipster nonsense

Because our ancestors were hipsters ?

>pasteurization is killing bacteria using a low heat

Low heat is below 120°F. In the US, "flash pasteurization" or "high-temperature short-time" processing of milk is done at 161°F for 15 seconds.

>your gut has very little to do with your immune system

~70% of your immune system is "housed" in your gut.

>healthier on a diet of glucose syrup, potato starch, purified milk protein and vitamins than they are on a normal diet

You mean like Soylent ?


67d3ff  No.12134209

File: cb799fa4ebbef53⋯.png (64.54 KB, 537x462, 179:154, OY.PNG)

>>12007751

Based Dr. Price

Stay away from (((grains))), kids.


360348  No.12134217

File: e240c4b0832c51e⋯.jpg (3.28 MB, 2186x9384, 1093:4692, 1511714937044.jpg)

>>12007068

I created this chart, with a thesis on "european foods" its quite nice, I always suspect that some of you may have found insight in it when I posted it…perhaps…well let me use this thread to complain a bit

>probably had some social retardation/lite assburgers and mirror neurons that did not work properly

>start consuming kefir many years ago

>think nothing of it, just keep on eating it

>also eating generally healthy with few foods that kill the good bacteria

>at workplace

>be bullying people as I usually do (a grill)

>casually think "nothing can hurt me, my autism powers will protect me as they always have"

>they didnt this time

>actually feel dread and sorrow for the first time in my life for another person

>it spirals further out of control

>basically have to apologize to that person in order to try to prevent that dread and sorrow from manifesting itself

>it does not fucking work

>had to quit work to try to distance myself from whatever the fuck is giving me these moral problems

honestly, I cant even comprehend how normies deal with this shit in their brains, its no wonder so many of them turn to drinking or drugs to escape this pain. I am thinking of drinking lite dosages of bleach to cleanse my gut bacteria and become an autistic again lol

also, have some new source

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321566.php


ff96eb  No.12134250

>>12115494

>fast

Once a month max.

For one 24hr period.

Water only.

Can go up to one 72hr period but that can get dangerous fo some people.

I would not do anon's sugar fast diet btw.

You can do a 12hr fast easily, starting today.

Less Sleep:

Don't eat for 2hrs before bed (water only).

Sleep for 8hrs.

Don't eat for 2hrs after bed (water only).

More Sleep:

Don't eat for 1hrs before bed (water only).

Sleep for 10hrs.

Don't eat for 1hrs after bed (water only).


000000  No.12134255

>>12116611

Good shit. I once grew 100 kales and didn't know why. I gave them away as gifts tied in a bundle with a graphic instruction on how to make a dank egg, sausage, potato, and kale scramble.


000000  No.12134267

>>12133882

Only packaged food and other "food products" are expensive. "Organic doesn't even have to be 100%. It's like "lead-free" labeling which does contan lead, as opposed to "no lead" labeling.


1a76c5  No.12136008

>keto

>1/3 carbs

stop reading there


40cccf  No.12136056

Is there any validity to Keto whatsoever or is it a fad? I keep hearing people say it's done wonders for them, and how they're fitting into clothes that haven't fit in years. Or is this just over complicating healthy eating habits? Gonna be honest, there are some foods I'd refuse to give up. I'd rather be a fat tits than not have an occasional baked potato or pasta bowl.


048ae0  No.12136080

>>12136056

It's usually people that never watched what they ate suddenly finding a new "religion".

The biology of a human isn't there, the body is capable of it when no options are present but it isn't needed to be healthy and it isn't the best way to lose fat in a healthy way.


0586d8  No.12136095

File: 195f795c0be1828⋯.png (488.01 KB, 1575x904, 1575:904, ClipboardImage.png)

Why do anglos say "black man" instead of "nigger male"? There is no such thing as nigger man, only whites can be men.


0586d8  No.12136100

>no mentions that onions and coconut oil increases test

<anons saying onions and cocnut oil are bad

<because of "research"

This place is beyond cucked. It's kiked, backward.


000000  No.12136118

Bump


048ae0  No.12136201

>>12136100

those foods arent bad

theres no magical "test" increasing foods though

look at all the things you think increase test, take the valid studies, then see if you added all those foods up would you really increase text n+n2+n3+n4+n5 or would it be just you eating healthy?


976bbe  No.12136561

>>12112309

just avoid eating dogshit. I have the same problem. I love the taste of coke and I love the texture of Doritos, but have gotten into a pretty good eating habit. I use an instant pot to cook rice + beans + veggies + chicken/pork/beef. When it finishes I put 4 eggs in (for fat) mix in kimchi for flavour and it has pretty much all. the essential food groups in one meal. Squeeze a lemon on it (if they're cheap where you are) and you'll have vitamin C.


976bbe  No.12136577

>>12117525

Just drink Coke Zero or something without sugar that is slightly less bad for you. If you feel that bad in general you must have a dogshit diet. What do you generally eat?


e1aebd  No.12136677

File: 8b4b2dc10ff254a⋯.jpg (27.95 KB, 464x606, 232:303, DmdMpzGW4AIHaaV.jpg)

>>12007192

>Dairy is not healthy

spotted a lactolet. Don't be mad because your body is too weak and you evolution chain is fucked up and can't process lactose


5a16af  No.12137613

>>12136056

It is accidentally doing the right thing. Low carbs doesn't matter at all, that's just stupid. But by cutting out carbs, most people cut out unsaturated fats at the same time, which is the actual benefit. Eat all the carbs you like, just don't touch unsaturated fats.

>>12134187

>Like Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

Yes, and also like ones that focus on research more than selling fad diets.

>I do not disagree but can you even explain how they are "toxic"

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturatedfats.shtml

>Because our ancestors were hipsters ?

Our ancestors didn't think heating milk up was bad.

>Low heat is below 120°F. In the US, "flash pasteurization" or "high-temperature short-time" processing of milk is done at 161°F for 15 seconds.

160F is low. You retards are babbling about it "superheating it" and "destroying all the nutrients". If that were the case, cooking anything would destroy all the nutrients.

>70% of your immune system is "housed" in your gut.

Stating random nonsense doesn't make it so.

>You mean like Soylent ?

No, soylent is full of crap, do you have difficulties reading?


e14d0b  No.12138896

>>12136008

>oy vey

>something I don't agree with

Being a spiritual jew tbh.

Breastfed babies, who are in a constant state of ketosis, eat 55% calories from fat.

The maths is here: >>12046028


4a2093  No.12138916

They dug up Neolithic man from Alps glacier and his stomach was 50% full of goat lard. The rest was ferns which werent even edible and he probably only ate as medicine.


000000  No.12138924

>>12136080

>keto

>isn't the best way to lose fat

>in a healthy way

Sauce or gtfo.


4a2093  No.12138926

>>12136577

Kys for wasted digits. Aspartame metabolizes into fermaldahyde and rots your brain.

>>12136561

You're addicted to additives put in there to be addictive.


e8f359  No.12139054

File: a3a3a3a25d05c45⋯.png (1.39 MB, 667x877, 667:877, 1.png)

>>12137613

>dr. dominic d'agostino

>the leading researcher in this area

>selling fad diets

Lies. He provides science to other people's books and all his research is available on his site for free.

>link to text spam

It doesn't explain the mechanism by which the inflammation occurs. Why does polyunsaturated fat become toxic inside your body ? Can you explain it in a sentence or two ?

>heating milk not bad

It's not. I cook with dairy often bc Franco-germanic. It is not good to kill one of the four main sources of probiotics; raw milk, the additional three being raw water, soil, and fermented foods. The average American consumes sterilized dairy, sterilized water, sterilized soil or no soil at all, and vinegar "pickled" foods.

>160F is low

Not only is it legally defined as "high-temp short-time" processing, the water heater in your house cannot legally be above 120°F because it can scald you. Bringing bakers yeast above 140°F kills it.

>stating truth is random nonsense doesn't make it so

Ftfy. The digestive system, which contains 70-80% of your immune tissue, is comprised of cells, proteins, tissues, and organs which work together in a complex way to defend the body against harmful bacteria, infectious diseases, and toxins. The gut mucosa connects with the largest population of immune cells in the body known as gastrointestinal immune cells.

>do you have difficulties reading

No but it seems that you have trouble communicating your thoughts. What you described seemd no different than Soylent or Ensure.


6d47d0  No.12139076

>>12007068

this is some advanced food knowledge


48850d  No.12139108

>>12010641

>>that's why we evolved to live on it

Ahahaha

Do you also believe fat is blubber and we were meant to be whales?


e1015c  No.12139163

Body fat is natural to a limit. It’s proven in natural power lifting that strength requires more than average bodyfat.

That obviously doesn’t mean go out and consume everything in sight. It does means you should be eating a slight surplus to build strength and stay healthy.


5a16af  No.12139215

>>12139054

>He provides science to other people's books and all his research is available on his site for free.

And he ignores science that contradicts the fad diet he sells.

>It doesn't explain the mechanism by which the inflammation occurs

Just because you refuse to read, doesn't mean the information is not there.

>Why does polyunsaturated fat become toxic inside your body ?

It is already toxic outside.

>It's not.

Then why are you replying? The comment you replied to was precisely that heating milk is not bad.

>It is not good to kill one of the four main sources of probiotics

Literally every single thing you ever touch is covered in bacteria, stop being a retard.

>Not only is it legally defined as "high-temp short-time" processing

We're not comparing two forms of pasteurization you fucking retard.

>The digestive system, which contains 70-80% of your immune tissue

Repeating it won't make it so.

>What you described seemd no different than Soylent or Ensure.

Then you should really look at the ingredients of both of those products you braindead nigger.


000000  No.12139925

>>12136201

Wrong, pine pollen increases test.


2f5424  No.12141762

>>12018793

i would like more on this

>But the pioneering research of Dr. Weston Price indicates that we should not accept the protein theory without further study. Dr. Price found many groups throughout the world subsisting on high meat diets. Although he did not directly study bone density in these peoples, he did study their teeth. He found that groups on high meat diets–including Alaskan Eskimos–had a high immunity to tooth decay, were sturdy and strong, and virtually free from degenerative disease. Groups subsisting mainly on plant foods were less robust and had more tooth decay. Pre-Columbian skeletons of American Indians whose diets consisted largely of meat show no osteoporosis, while those of Indians on largely vegetarian diets indicate a high incidence of osteoporosis and other types of bone degeneration


2f5424  No.12141772

>>12018793

>In addition, they found that high levels of saturated fat also gave protection. That’s right, the much-maligned saturated fats, found in tropical oils, butter and other animal fats, play an important role in bone modeling. This may be a major reason that population groups in tropical areas, where coconut and palm oils form a major component of the diet, have very little osteoporosis

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/dem-bones-do-high-protein-diets-cause-bone-loss/


67d3ff  No.12142985

>>12141772

Based Dr. Price.


5a16af  No.12143013

>>12141762

Not only did he not study their bones, he didn't study them at all. He cherry picked select groups he thought would support his beliefs and then said they were healthy without bothering to actually check. Eskimos aren't healthy, they have always had high rates of heart disease and low average life expediencies. People who dealt with them in the early part of the 1900s said they looked elderly by 40 and almost none of them lived to be 60. Because they eat so much fish, which contains toxic unsaturated fats.

>>12142985

>Based Dr. Price

Was a fraud.


67d3ff  No.12143050

File: 0d52f905286df9e⋯.jpg (10.38 KB, 605x259, 605:259, nice.jpg)


000000  No.12143534

>>12139215

>directly addressing

>means ignoring

>for free

>means for sale

Now your are just being a faggot liar and, based on the rest of the response where you blatantly ingnore my clarifications and don't offer any of your own, you are clearly a jew.


000000  No.12143563

>>12143013

Heart clogging from too much free serum cholesterol is not the same as no tooth decay or other degenerative diseases. It is caused by the body not using free serum cholesterol, for example, via UV conversion of serum cholesterol in the skin to vitamin-d. It happens when they sit inside more than they move outside. European people evolved to live like that and they have less issues as a result.

>fraud

You never know.


b4de4a  No.12143610

File: 71925ebacd398b9⋯.jpg (21.14 KB, 635x357, 635:357, Human.jpg)

>>12007068

If you want to be a wolf, eat what wolves eat.

Seriously, keep the carbs limited to vegetables, no white carbs. Absolutely no sugar, and that includes alcohol (your liver processes it like sugar). You can eat the occasional fruits, and if you genetically present northern European, you can eat cheese (REAL cheese, no goddam "Cheez Whiz") and drink milk without problems. Don't be afraid of animal fats. NO PROCESSED FOODS…they are packed with preservatives that kill gut fauna. An occasional glass of raw milk will bring them back into balance.

Basically, you're eating the way your ancestors ate, if you are genetically northern. If you are more southern Euro, grains will not be as much of a problem, but try to eat them prepared the way your ancestors did, no bleached grains.

Alcohol is to be reserved for special occasions, do not drink it every week, or even every month.

If you are already fat, starve it off, first. Yes, you can do this, your body is designed to do this, and it is the only way you'll see enough progress on the scales to keep you at it. Those that tell you "it's unhealthy!" are full of shit.

When the weight is off, and your diet has become reasonable amounts of what's listed above, start lifting. It will increase your testosterone count, as will getting away from processed "food." Get some cardio in, as well, maybe an hour a day of jogging, walking, bicycling, whatever…but make some time to build and maintain your body. Boxing is an EXCELLENT workout, by the way, with heavybag, partner, or even shadow. Try it and see.


7f63e7  No.12144454

File: 65aa2396e472c85⋯.jpg (52.82 KB, 650x722, 325:361, Luis Royo - Castlevania - ….jpg)

>>12143610

You are correct about this. I am a former Fatty Arbuckle have lost over 100lbs 3x during my near 40 years on this plane of existence. I am in the midst of another very light food intake/starve, this time mostly because of severe IBS-D, Hyper-tension, and Syringomyelia/spinal injuries that I have been battling for 20+ years here in USA. I am also of Nordic (Lapp), English, Scottish, and Irish decent, among others ( anyone know of a trustworthy DNA/Ethnic discovery firm whom white folks can use?). Anyway, I started raw milk 1 month ago and my shit immediately improved, after adding home-churned butter, and raw grass-fed bone marrow/bone stock and bone oil, raw kefir, raw clabber, potato veggie snacks instead of cheese-its etc, and NON-BURNED meats, my shit came out in perfect chunks and experienced less than a one-wipers and I have been living on fucking wet-wipes for my anus for ages. Why? I think the best answer is struggle. Struggle at works, family, and tolerance general candy-coating of normie and vegan/vegetarian life-styles. I have been woke since pre-9/11 mind you, yet the daily shuffle REALLY takes its' toll on a resilient human body ( Wow isn't the human body resilient beyond most measure, yet a spiritual, sensitive temple).

When you say grains are not a problem for certain area of Earth; Yes this is your basic blood-type human diet. The east Asians can tolerate veg, because they are blood type-B mostly, check it out for yourselves. As for me I have been waiting for my Eldon cards in the mail and I donated blood to RedCross years ago, but they had no record (past 10 years), however I believe I am O- or A-, or other undocumented type, due to my small intestines loving the raw dairy and meat. I have been slowly dying and I let myself get to a point where i felt my heart giving out complete with stroke symptoms. And yet I still never got sick, not sure what was protecting me. After living through the 70's and 80's with an Avon lady, tupper-fucking-ware party Momma, giving me my cereal everyday out of cheap plastic bowls for the 60's and 70's I am lucky not to suffer to any serious health issues my more recent immigrant fore-fathers endured (watch i get cancer tomorrow). I love Americans and stand-up Euros and Asians, including Russians, but good Lord some real POS in the business and marketing/secret society fields of commerce of this world.

Now I am back on track again in this current block of timeline we live in now. Hail the true Great Awakening, good men like myself and good women like my lovely wife have been dying due to this NWO/vegetarian agenda.


aa5dc0  No.12144600

>>12007231

>mall melanoma on my hand that disappeared

That's called metastasis. Go to a doctor, immediately.


81c895  No.12145343

>>12015028

Oy vey, we need to lobby more (((school boards))) to stop people like you from talking about infected nipple puss.


81c895  No.12145358

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12007371

Because modern dairy production is absolutely disgusting. No, you don't need to drink the milk of another mammal to get the calcium and protein you need.


73c45a  No.12145386

>>12145358

>vegan

Have fun with your D3, B12, EPA+DHA, Iron, and Zinc deficiencies.


fac669  No.12145402

File: 14cde88acb6b804⋯.jpg (31.46 KB, 424x450, 212:225, heydrich-424x450.jpg)

>>12143610

Great advices mate.


73c45a  No.12145953

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12145498

The guy I was responding to posted a video by a vegan.

I agree that industrial dairy is practically poison, but vegans tend to pigeonhole every opposing viewpoint as if you can only source animal foods from meat/dairy industry. To them, every cow in the US is being tortured on a feedlot somewhere in the mid-west.

>isn't very nutritious

Depends on the diet and the breed of the cow of course. Most conventional dairy at the supermarket comes from grain-fed Holstein cows which were bred for an increased volume of milk production. Jersey cows, on the other hand, will produce less milk with a higher fat content (5%).

>finding a source is hard

Where I live raw milk can be sold if it is labeled for pet consumption, and IIRC it's only totally illegal in a few states. Like >>12008814 said it's not even comparable to the synthetic shit sold in supermarkets. Also, I get mine for $8.50; price varies greatly by state.

>clean water is totally fine

Milk is actually more hydrating than water. I suspect this has to do with the mineral content of milk over normal water. Of course, they didn't measure spring or well water which has a significantly higher mineral content, so take it with a grain of salt: https://www.acefitness.org/education-and-resources/professional/prosource/april-2016/5855/the-newest-index-on-the-block-the-hydration-index


a99484  No.12146070

>>12007690

Some French faggot decades ago injected a shitload of Sodium into rats and it gave them high blood pressure, then the U.S. government saw that and said Sodium was bad. Complete farce, just like the food pyramid made by the Department of Agriculture telling you to eat a shitload of grains, particularly breads made from processed-as-fuck flour from modern wheat. White flour has zero nutrients in it, which is why it was noticed that bugs don't try to get into containers of the stuff to eat it, and is also why "enriched" flour exists - to try to put something worth while back into it.


000000  No.12146448

>>12146070

This, it's lunacy because in the old days people knew that some salts were good and some weren't desirable. These days many people eat ordinary table salt which is of questionable provenance.

Best salt is made from seaweed IMHO.


67d3ff  No.12146985

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12146448

>These days many people eat ordinary table salt which is of questionable provenance

This.

Video very related.


5a16af  No.12147012

>>12145498

>We actually bring in jugs of vitamin A and vitamin D to inject into large pasteurized tanks of milk to "enrich" them

So? That doesn't mean milk isn't healthy, it means the government put in stupid laws that require adding vitamin A and D to milk.

>They're all spot on about enzymes and indigestible material that feeds gun flora,

No they aren't. They are full of shit. Do a chemical analysis of pasteurized and unpasteurized milk. All it does it kill bacteria.

>>12143610

Humans are not wolves. Eat like a human, not like a wolf. Your advice is retarded. Our ancestors ate as much fruit as they could get their hands on, sugar is perfectly fine.

>>12143563

They have other degenerative diseases, this is the point. He said "their teeth were nice and that means they are healthy and have no diseases" when in fact that's total bullshit.

>It is caused by the body not using free serum cholesterol, for example, via UV conversion of serum cholesterol in the skin to vitamin-d

Yes, they have the vitamin D problem. They also have the polyunsaturated fat problem. Notice how the eskimos that live off of caribou meat are much healthier than the ones that eat fish? It isn't a co-incidence.


a43746  No.12147243

>>12143610

>If you want to be a wolf, eat what wolves eat.

t. furry


fdd7e3  No.12148482

>>12134187

Fan of Dom D'Agostino's logic and ideas, NOT a fan of that freaking picture. Jeezus


d1a340  No.12148532

>>12061057

>>12061032

>>12061064

It's because pork spoils in warm climate


fdd7e3  No.12148615

>>12148532

and undercooking it can be deadly, although my chef cousin tells me they've mostly taken care of trichinosis in the civilized world with modern medicines and government mandated standards of practice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis


7d4f90  No.12148725

File: 3e9714b85009bb1⋯.jpg (28.82 KB, 600x450, 4:3, grillad-abborre-med-ortyog….jpg)

Had freshly caught perch grilled in my oven with onions and homegrown potatoes today.

Its the only interests me and gf shares (except fucking ;-)), growing stuff like potatoes, rootfruits, dill, spices, fishing and hunting.

Its kind of fun actually, much work but feels good to eat what you can produce, fish or hunt.

Moose hunting begins in a month :D

I don


2dbcc7  No.12148747

>>12148725

Go back to facebook normie faggot.


e8f359  No.12149101

File: 6d15fba32ff6d37⋯.jpg (17.44 KB, 300x300, 1:1, not.white.jpg)

>>12143610

>no white carbs

"White" has no value in this context, please do not use it.

I have to presume you mean processed grains that are only endospernm and have no bran or husk, and root vegetables such as potatoes, yams, parsnips, and turnips; things that appear "white". There is no reason to cut out these foods since the balance of each meal is what matters most. Remember that your food is chewed up and broken down with acids before it is sent to the small intestine to have nutrients absorbed, and the ratio of macronutrients in that "slurry" should be aligned to your individual needs.

>absolutely no sugar

The body processes all the soluble carbs as sugar in some form. Getting a balance of fructose and glucose is important because the body prefers to process the combination of the two as sucrose plus eating too much of just one sugar can cause digestive and nutrient/mineral absorption issues. Honey and tree syrup are the most balanced, iirc.

>starving is not unhealthy

It is. Long-term starvation causes gut mucus issues that lead to celiac and colitis and eventualy colon cancer and death. However, at the 24hr mark, the body begins to clean out pre-cancerous cells. Fasting with water only for 1-2 days a month is the most one should do.


000000  No.12149105

>>12147012

>caribou vs fish

I wonder in the China Study guy's poorly reasearched conclusions about fish being the least healthful meat were actually related to the polyunsaturated fat it contains and not the protein structure but he sucked as a scientist and didn't notice the relation.


e8f359  No.12149123

File: 837a7f98a222073⋯.png (159.66 KB, 649x446, 649:446, bento.png)

>>12144454

>ibs-d

You killed your gut flora but first they ate the mucin lining that protects you. The body's natural response to proteins directly contacting the intestinal lining is to send blood (inflammation).

>hyper-tension

You don't move enough. Read 'move your dna' >>12007077 and get moving.

>dna/ethnic discovery

Ethnicity is culture but you should use Bento and do the test at home:

https://bento.bio/


58e2ec  No.12149141

>>12145306

Cholesterol can go unused and cause the new cholesterol produced as you eat more saturated fats to also go unused and stay in your blood stream. That cholesterol in your blood can build up as plaque and lead to circulatory issues. It is only one type of cholesterol that does this, though, and it can be tested for. The "Small Dense Low-Density Lipoprotein" is the only biomarker relevant in a cholesterol test. I have never heard the claim that the mechanism for this buildup to happen is microfissures caused by inflammation. I will read up on this and learn; thanks.


000000  No.12149143

>>12147012

>caribou vs fish

I wonder in the China Study guy's poorly reasearched conclusions about fish being the least healthful meat were actually related to the polyunsaturated fat it contains and not the protein structure but he sucked as a scientist and didn't notice the relation.


000000  No.12149159

>>12149143

Sorry for posting twice I am a huge faggot.


58e2ec  No.12149174

>>12148615

Wild pigs can still have this. Be careful hunterbros.

>>12149159

It's okay anon, sometimes the .onion site doesn't align to the clearnet, I can still post in some 404 threads using the .onion site after they are gone from the .net site.


5a16af  No.12151821

>>12149143

Almost certainly. It is the same as people like D'Agostino pushing keto. They just have it set in their heads what the problem is from the start, so they refuse to look at other correlations they are missing. Like how keto works for people who don't eat much nuts/seeds or fish, and fails for people who eat a lot of those things, especially vegetarians who have to eat tons of seeds and nuts. A typical keto diet accidentally removes unsaturated fats, which is why it actually works, not because of carbs or protein.


f2ef67  No.12151841

File: 1a938c9752f332c⋯.jpg (1.76 MB, 2700x3184, 675:796, 1875dfcc79.jpg)

>>12136677

"Milk is for babies" as Arnold Schwarzenegger said. What other animal drinks mother's milk after infancy? Weirder still, what other animal drinks the milk of a different species after infancy (or at all?)? Cow's milk is designed to push a calf up to 1,500 pounds in a year (North Americans are getting close, heh heh). Because of capitalism and modern farming, cows are given hormones to super-charge milk production and they live their lives attached to milking machines. Because of this, they often get mastitis, which leads to infection. The end result is that the bottom 1/8th of your glass of milk is pus. You're not doing yourselves any favors by drinking milk.

Pic not related


1c2532  No.12153953

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12143610

>If you want to be a wolf, eat what wolves eat.

Anyone have any thoughts on a raw meat diet? Derek Nance has been eating raw meat for 9 years straight and claimed that it got rid of his illnesses he was suffering earlier, and he actually hasn't passed gas since either.


000000  No.12154084

>>12153953

Raw meat is easier to digest than poorly cooked meat. The protein fibers of meats stiffen considerably between medium rare and well done. Once these fibers stiffen beyond a certain degree, the only thing which can make them easily digested again is extended cooking until the meat becomes "fork tender" and practically falls apart. This is true of all meats and seafood.

Raw (or very rare) meat does make you feel satisfied and provides a nearly instant boost of energy. You can actually feel it working. I sometimes make beef carpaccio and tartare, but I always select my cut and blanch it in boiling water for 20-30 seconds, to eliminate bacteria on the outside before I slice or mince it.


69d3d5  No.12155856

>>12112672

>Chickens must eat grains or insects and humans

watch out for them chickens


945491  No.12155884

>>12015088

>>12112309

>>12112393

Read up on kombucha.

Only thing I've stumbled upon that removes inorganic materials in the body through the kidneys, as the liver can't deal with it.


389608  No.12156109

File: 6b802afb8d65afa⋯.jpg (168.74 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, fd076ba8185b8d24580daf20e1….jpg)

What vitamins should I be taking? I'm tired all the time


67d3ff  No.12156121

>>12156109

Vitamin Stop wanking


af61f5  No.12156124

>>12156109

Zinc, because you loose that when you

>>12156121


bf64a0  No.12156174

>>12156109

None, change your diet and your fucking lifestyle before thinking about any silver bullets.

-excercise regularily

-go to bed at consistend times

-eat nutrient dense animal foods like eggs, liver, meat, fatty fish, full fat yogurt

-avoid inflammatory food like grains, legumes, nuts

-stop wanking


9e4eb8  No.12156199

>>12156109

Niacinamide, B-12, and boron.

All men should take this 28 days per month.


bf64a0  No.12156204

>>12153953

Works perfectly fine. A raw meat diet is actually a far superior choice when compared to the standard american diet. Also, it eliminates inflammatory responses some people get from grains, legumes, nuts, vegetables, all sort of stuff.

Dr. Salisbury, who tried different foods like beans, corn and such in elimination diets (only said food) on himself for prolonged periods of time, actually found out that beef is the best choice for overall health. He published his findings in "The Relation of Alimentation and Disease".

Few facts regarding all meat diets:

-Supplementation not necessary. Vit. C for example is required in larger amounts when eating the SAD due to the difference in glucose metabolism

-Sufficient uptake of fat is mandatory. A good thumb-rule is at least 1:1 fat:protein in grams.

-Can reduce inflammation to basically zero. Heals diseases like Crohn's disease and depression for some people.

-Good for fighting type 2 Diabetes

-Great for weight loss

If your meat is sourced properly, you are at no risk of infecting yourselves with parasites.


8ed006  No.12156340

This is literally the stupidest nutritional advice ever advised. and you can't eat "keto" ketosis is a disease you get when you don't get enough calories and your body starts eating at your fat reserves.


ef2028  No.12156367

You guys are fucking retards.

Keto is a fad diet. Its a meme.

Your ancestors (the ones that built civilizations, egypt, babylon, vedic india, greece, etc that no other groups of people on the world could ever do) ate little meat and lots of carbs.

This heavy meat diet and big (((dairy))) industry that was introduced to us in the past century is turning men into numales.

Its not soy you dumbasses. Have you ever met anyone who consistently eats only soy? No. You meat flamboyant and weak numales and manchildren who drink lots of milk or eat bacon and lots of meat.


ef2028  No.12156373

>>12134217

You know that white people invented grains right? There's nothing more European than wheat?


f39bd9  No.12156391

>>12149123

I defntly agree. I would assume that the drinking I did back between 1999 and 2007 played a huge role in the breakdown of my gut flora/ bene bacteria. And the subsequent un-caring, willy-nilly diet finished the job. I was slowly dying. Thank you for that info about the bento helm. I will read the links also. Correct again, i was a super-athlete in my younger years and there is no reason I cannot be that person again….edit on my post you replied to originally I meant the grain and veg eaters have type A and AB blood. I made a typo there..Type B is the nomadic steppe dwelling Mongolian hordes who fermented/soured their dairy and ate fish and meat and fat, often dried and/or raw and naturally preserved.>>12149123


bf64a0  No.12156400

>>12156367

>Your ancestors (the ones that built civilizations, egypt, babylon, vedic india, greece, etc that no other groups of people on the world could ever do) ate little meat and lots of carbs.

>Your ancestors.

And thusly, the kike outed himself. People in highly advanced civilizations ate mostly grains because they simply could not afford eating meat, you stupid piece of shit. This is also why the perfect indicator for an agricultural society is tooth decay found in skeletons.

>>12156373

French fries are a white man's invention, therefore you.. ahh.. we should take more pride in eating french fries, right? Right, fellow white people?


ef2028  No.12156440

File: cba6d938c6bca84⋯.jpg (51.38 KB, 470x272, 235:136, Veganism-3.jpg)

>>12156400

You have to be a kike to truly believe the right half of pic related is actually justifiable.

The third reich was the first government to start noticing the effects of cancer caused by eating meat.

Drop your fucking meme tier education.

It's not about not being able to afford eating meat but being of a higher culture. That's why higher caste vedic Indians didn't eat meat while the bottom caste, the filth, ate meat or whatever.


a5adfc  No.12156443

>>12018324

I've moved to raw animal products, and I drink blood every other day.

I can't say it's as amazing as some advocates claim, but it has made my asthma almost entirely disappear in only a month. I sleep much better and my mood is more stable. That alone makes me want to continue.

Adaptation was very quick, but socially it's tricky. Eating Carpaccio and other raw meat dishes when going out helps.


bf64a0  No.12156451

>>12156440

>Calling me a jew for eating humanely killed meat.

>Implying meat for white man's consumption is killed according to the kosher or helal requirements.

>The third reich was the first government to start noticing the effects of cancer caused by eating meat.

Source on that? That outlandish claim has no scientific backing, only some observational studies being done, which obviously prove jack shit.

>It's not about not being able to afford eating meat but being of a higher culture.

I really don't give a fuck wether you consider yourself entitled or not for avoiding meat.


ac90a6  No.12156465

>>12061032

Isnt it because it has hooves?


ef2028  No.12156471

>>12156451

Look you're still killing an innocent creature.

The only people's who haven't moved on from hunting and gathering are eskimos (living to like 50 years old at 5'3) and skinny African tribes.

Read the Nazi war on cancer by Robert N. Proctor published in the Princeton University Press. Also read whatever articles you see on cancer and meat relation.

Its unnatural.


bf64a0  No.12156495

>>12156471

>Look you're still killing an innocent creature.

You obviously don't understand the effect of intensive agriculture on the environment. It has a tendency to literally destroy it, whereas ruminants like sheep and cows can be used to regenerate it. Also, don't get me started on all the animals being killed by harvesting machines.

>The only people's who haven't moved on from hunting and gathering are eskimos (living to like 50 years old at 5'3) and skinny African tribes.

I present to you: Eskimos, living according to their traditional diet:

-no cases of cancer

-no cases of tooth decay

-no birthgiving difficulties

-no obesity

-no diabetes

The low life expectancy can mostly be attributed to the harsh living conditions in the arctic, accompanied by streaks of starvation.

>Also read whatever articles you see on cancer and meat relation.

I've seen all these bullshit articles. Again, nothing has been proven so far.

"The Nilotic tribes have been chiefly herders of cattle and goats and have lived primarily on dairy products, including milk and blood, with some meat, and with a varying percentage of vegetable foods. It was most interesting to observe that in every instance these cattle people dominated the surrounding tribes."

Dr. Weston Price was an american dentist who traveled the world in order to find out the cause of diseases of civilization, mostly tooth decay and malformations of the jaw. He examined indigenous people living on their traditional diet and compared them of the same people living on a modern diet. Maladies like tooth decay, bone malformations were absolutely rampant among those living on the modern diet. Every single time.

Source: http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price9.html


ef2028  No.12156518

>>12156495

You can't argue intensive large scale agriculture when I'm talking about killing animals, especially when all meat is produced in large scale animal farming that requires lots of food to feed these animals and lots of land and water.

Modern day farming of animals is absolutely terrible for the environment. Don't try to use some bogus argument of large scale farming when farming can be done on local scales without damaging the environment.


bf64a0  No.12156519

>>12156471

To further refute your claims:

>The only people's who haven't moved on from hunting and gathering are eskimos (living to like 50 years old at 5'3) and skinny African tribes.

"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of inter-marriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them."

"Their food is of a simple kind, consisting of wild-fruit, fresh game, and curdled milk."

The Germans as described by the Roman historian Tacitus in his book Germania.

Source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Germania_(Church_%26_Brodribb)


bf64a0  No.12156522

>>12156518

>all meat is produced in large scale animal farming that requires lots of food to feed these animals and lots of land and water.

Wrong. Cows and sheep can even be used to make use of land which does not support agricultural use. Cut your bullshit, you have been called out too often already.


ef2028  No.12156532

>>12156519

Germanics travelled the world and built the great civilizations for the past 6000 years, Germania is not the only example of German diet. Germans in vedic India or Egypt (mummies with red and blonde hair) didn't eat meat their.


ef2028  No.12156539

>>12156522

Read any article or science, mass animal farms take up such a heavy strain of water resources.


5a16af  No.12156558

>>12156532

Those were Gauls you dumbass. And yes they did eat meat there. Humans can not live naturally on a vegan diet, so obviously you are stupid and wrong.

>>12153953

He's a retard. The reason his diet is good for him is because it eliminates unsaturated fats. You can do that while still eating lots of good foods, there's no reason to eat gross shit like a subhuman.


bf64a0  No.12156560

>>12156539

>>12156522

>Germanics travelled the world and built the great civilizations for the past 6000 years, Germania is not the only example of German diet. Germans in vedic India or Egypt (mummies with red and blonde hair) didn't eat meat their.

YES, but they were able to grow strong and very tall, as described by the Romans, annihilating them in combat quite some times. This refutes your claim of an animal product based diet stunting growth. Also, look at the Masai, you fucking cunt living off of mostly dairy and blood and growing to an average height of 1,9m. And no, I am not going to calculate the equivalent in the retarded units your fucking shit ass country most likely uses.

>Read any article or science, mass animal farms take up such a heavy strain of water resources.

MOST ARTICLES ARE FUCKING SHIT, YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER! They are targeted towards sales and clickbait, towards the stupid pieces of shit like you who need easy ass "explanations" to understand anything. Also, nowhere did I claim that all meat is raised on pasture, you fuckwit.

Go eat a bag of dicks, you retarded peace of shit, I am so sick of your irrational bullshit.

Might someone else take care of this idiot?


6286c1  No.12156577

>>12007192

Dairy is not healthy, just because your gut can't digest lactosis and you fart like a hyppo every time you eat yoghurt doesn't mean everyone have the same issue m8.

I would never stop eating a delicious EUROPEAN Gouda, Emmenthaler, Brie or Roquenfort cheese because a poor lactosis intolerant idiot said that it's bad for him therefore it's bad for everyone else.


ef2028  No.12156594

>>12156560

There are numerous athletes moving to plant based high carb diets. NO successful athlete eats only protein or only meat. How are they so tall without your logic?

You dumbass do you not know how big the dairy and meat industry is? Dairy is advertised everywhere constantly. You're falling for one of the biggest food marketing in the country.


ef2028  No.12156606

>>12156560

Websites that sell you on high protein low carb fads only make their money from selling books or ads on their website because its just random people.

YOUR'E THE ONE WHOSE BEING TRICKED BY A FAD.


f39bd9  No.12157004

>>12156594

Fake dairy may be advertised but not raw, actual, factual dairy. Fake dairy is full of sugar and additives to mask the fact that it's destroyed by flash heating and homogenization of the super-healthy bacterial environment within clean animal products…The reason why the Genesis and Levitican procedure, God approved animal is because the animal chews the cud and not divide the hoof. The cow can ingest and digest plant matter for us…Beautiful ain't it? Unclean sea birds, bottom-dwelling sea creatures can harbor deadly parasites, they are unclean. God says not to drink any blood btw, it is satanic and unclean as we can see now plainly in cannibalism.


f39bd9  No.12157011

>>12156577

I would suggest you read up about human blood types and history of the human diet.


5b18bf  No.12157018

>>12012812

>Not bad advice.

>

>Saturated fat is good for you.

>

>Eggs are good for you.

>

>Dietary cholesterol does not affect serum cholesterol (in your blood). Poor cholesterol profiles result from massive simple sugar intake as well as deep fried foods (which contain much trans fat no matter what claims are mad).


5b18bf  No.12157020

>>12157004

>eat like the semitic cult gods tell you to

poor understanding of nutrition


bf64a0  No.12157048

>>12157018

So what? Everything that Anon stated is correct.


f39bd9  No.12157049

>>12157020

You are referring to the re-written man-made post-1600 bible texts? If not, then Nope, the bible, as fat-fetched as it may seem, is, in many instances, more reliable than modern advice of smoothies, man-made sugar-packed fruits, and pre-packaged hot-doggery. Explain briefly why we should do whatever your point is?


f9a284  No.12157523

>>12157004

Where does God say to not drink blood? I like rare steaks


4b5d2b  No.12166380

>>12157523

According to the bible, god hates vegans. Cain was a vegan and god called him a faggot because of it (and like a typical vegan he turned out to be a psycho). Abel gave god an offering of slow smoked beef brisket and god loved him. The most important rite in christianity, the eucharist, is supposed to be consumption of god's flesh.


4b5d2b  No.12166387

>>12124400

Ray Peat is literally not a scientist, bro. He's a retard.


dde552  No.12166633


096acf  No.12166667

>>12156367

Anyone who ate carbs instead of meat did so because they didn't have meat.


dad366  No.12166739

>Eat As Your Ancestors Did

That excludes a lot of healthy food. My ancestors wouldn't have had access to potatoes or bananas.


5a16af  No.12167524

File: 13433a489128008⋯.jpg (99.88 KB, 811x787, 811:787, 1290183180790.jpg)

>>12166387

>PhD in Biology

>literally not a scientist


0329be  No.12170608

>>12156121

10/10 reply, I struggle with the same thing (I found quitting tobacco easier than quitting wanking), but starting this summer I made really good progress after a 6 day water fast.

My longest streak managed was 18 days, and even if I relapsed (without porn, very important), right now I'm 3 days in another and still feel better and without urges, aside from morning wood.


a2f718  No.12170686

>eat as your ancestors did

That's how it should be, our ancestors have evolved to digest different kinds of foods. Some of them couldn't digest milk or even vegetables, but how far back are we talking? I can't really find anything on what my Iberian ancestors ate.


7e6582  No.12172142

>>12166739

>starch and sugar is healthy

I used to be a (((vegan))), and after some trial and error, I've found that there's no reason to eat anything but meat. Every plant is wasted when fed to a human. We lack the ability to digest plants (or even fibre) properly. At best we get a kick out of the sugar.

And raw meat is superior to cooked meat


bc5242  No.12172193

>>12167524

Show me his publications. He isn't a scientist. He's a retard who doesn't even understand basic human physiology.


0ad11b  No.12172517

File: 9cd20c2a6bdcd49⋯.gif (996.11 KB, 220x258, 110:129, 17c2c7005b7810aa5425a7e3e4….gif)

>>12134174

Is that your sister? Based


5a16af  No.12176544

File: 4aeef7c1cbb4841⋯.jpg (39.35 KB, 700x456, 175:114, 1290186875769.jpg)

>>12172193

>PhD in Biology

>He isn't a scientist


0337b0  No.12176913


e9e3b1  No.12176949

>>12156109

Get "Beyond Tangy Tangerine" by Dr. Wallach….

Energy goes up and you loose weight because you stop eating shit food…


95d1bc  No.12176980

>>12007068

Currently 220ish built pudge looking to drop weight asap. Is the water fast the best idea if I'm trying to lose most of my fat? Or is there something better for where I'm at right now?


932b40  No.12177007

Why <75% fat and not more?

Ive been on keto for 4 weeks now and I have lost 10.2 kg (weight loss started to slow down this week)

I average 80% fat 3% carbs 17% protein with a pretty big calorie deficit every day, is this unhealthy? My calorie intake is between 1300-1700.

I work as a carpenter 40h/w and walk a few km a day after work.

Im 183cm tall and current weight is 106kg

I could eat up to 2000 calories if there was an easy way to ingest all that fat.

Should also probably add that I do add more protein whenever i know my workload will be larger during said day. (Carpentry is not hard work, but it can be sometimes)

Would appreciate any opinions on what Im doing wrong as I do want to lose more weight but not at the expense of my health


9be83e  No.12177172

>>12177007

Low protein keto is fucking stupid unless your an autistic child with epilepsy. Up your protein to 50% at least.


9be83e  No.12177174

>>12176980

Water fast is stupid. PSMF is better.


93dffa  No.12177176

>>12007068

>eat as your ancestors did

>50% of calories from fat

lmao you fucking brainlet retard. enjoy your cardiovascular disease and insulin resistance.

btw saged because OP is spreading disinfo.


93dffa  No.12177181

File: 5b863bd2954bb2f⋯.png (4.92 KB, 234x216, 13:12, brainlet4.png)

>>12007192

>Fruit is just sugar. Vegetables and fiber are overrated, they are just for taste.


93dffa  No.12177184

>>12145306

More disinfo brainlets ITT

the cholesterol deniers have misinformed you. Eating added sugar and salt promote heart disease BUT SO DOES eating saturated animal fat and dietary cholesterol. It's not either-or, it's "both-and." ALL of them raise your LDL above the physiologically normal range of about 35-60/70, and at higher levels of LDL people get more and more plaque in their arteries, whereas plaque simply doesn't build up in arteries when LDL is in the TRULY normal range (35-60/70). Whatever analogy you want to use (firefighters, bandaids), the plaques themselves are largely made up of the excess fat and cholesterol that is in people's bloodstream so it's like you sent too many firefighters and the excess ones wound up laying around on the walls of your arteries. But if you lower LDL enough, plaques stop forming and the ones that are there start shrinking:

http://www.onlinejacc.org/content/43/11/2142

http://www.onlinejacc.org/content/70/24/2979

http://dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf

http://www.dresselstyn.com/Esselstyn_Three-case-reports_Exp-Clin-Cardiol-July-2014.pdf

And when you feed dietary cholesterol to mammals that don't usually get atherosclerosis (e.g., rabbits), that creates atherosclerosis and if you do it long enough, you can give them heart attacks. Meanwhile, the sharp spikes from crystallized cholesterol (from too high a concentration of cholesterol in the blood) appears to be a trigger for heart attacks:

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/cholesterol-crystals-may-tear-though-our-artery-lining/

Meanwhile, whole food carbs are VERY healthy for you, with longevity increasing with increasing consumption of whole food carbs such as whole grains, beans, or sweet potatoes. People are confused about carbs because virtually all the studies are on highly processed carbs then the authors/researchers turn around and falsely claim that that applies to all carbs, including whole foods. ALL the healthiest longest-lived populations got the vast majority of their calories from whole food carbs, as do the remaining gatherer-hunter tribes that are left (e.g., Hadza).


93dffa  No.12177189

>>12177007

Enjoy your heart arrhythmia and insulin resistance, ketocultist brainlet.

Low Carb (or Ketogenic) Diets are incredibly popular right now here in the U.S. and I see men on that diet all the time on Peak Testosterone Forum. Altthough, Low Carb Diets have been around for decades with various names and in various forms, they have recently flourished as never before due to the fact that a significant number of doctors and researchers have become apostles of the movement. Weight loss is rapid, due to loss of water attached to glycogen stores, and lipids usually improve in some positive ways, such as rising HDL and falling triglycerides. If you're a meat and dairy lover, this diet seems like a dream-come-true.

But behind the scenes, ugly side effects and research have been surfacing and literally tens of millions have jumped aboard. I see over and over men that show up on The Forum with standard symptoms that they assume are testosterone or estradiol related. In fact, I find that they are likely experiencing one or more of the common side effects of Low Carb Diets. Some men even get incredibly ill, and I did an interview with one of them here: A Low Carb Diet Made Me Sick.

To be clear, I am NOT saying that all of these side effects occur in all men on a Low Carb Diet. I am just saying that they occur often enough that men should be aware and monitoring themselves. Plus, many men on a Low Carb Diet are feeling terrible and do not know why. For all these reasons, I urge you to read for yourselves The Top Twelve (Dirty Dozen) Potential Dangers of a Low Carb Diet:

1. Heart Palpitations and Arrhythmias. Perhaps the most dangerous aspect of a low carb diet are the ketones. What?!? That's not what you heard, right? Low carb bloggers love to go on and on about the benefits of ketones - and there are some - but there is also a dark side. (Low carb diets are labelled ketogenic, becausse ketone levels in the blood are elevated.) What you are not going to hear about is the fact that high ketone levels can disturb the heart nodes responsible for your heart beat. There is actually a growing body of research on the subject and I discuss it in page on Low Carb Diets and Arrhymias.

On this page I explain that the researchers believe it is the ketones themselves causing these issues. However, there no doubt that the increased cortsiol and other stress hormones that result from Low Carb Diets may contribute as well. (See #2 below.)

2. Increased Cortisol and Adrenaline. Did you know that it is quite common for men on low carb diets to have elevated cortisol or adrenaline? This is actually how these type of diets work interestingly enough.

For example, some researchers have found that another danger of the Atkins (Low Carb) Diet is increased cortisol levels by allowing cortisol to stay in one's system longer. [10] High cortisol levels are bad for many reasons, including the fact that they attack neurons, cause visceral fat depostion ("beer belly" or "pot belly"), lower testosterone and increase the risk of heart disease and disturb sleep. (Read this link on the Brain for more details.) This was verified in a study on athletes were cortisol was increased by 17% on a low carb diet. [15]

3. Decreased Blood Flow. Saturated fat slows down blood flow. Many, many studies have shown this. In fact, researchers have actually studied ways to help the arteries recover from a high saturated fat meal. Certain nuts can help for example, such as walnuts. And, of course, exercise can reverse the artery-stunning effects of saturated quite well. However, how many men go for a walk or a run after a meal? If you don't, you will probably find your nitric oxide lowered and your blood flow decreased. Men that are 40+ may notice an impact in the bedroom as well.

What I have noticed is that it is always the younger guys pushing low carbohydrate diets. The reason is simple: young guys have enough buffer in their nitric oxide levels to withstand a high saturated fat meal usually. But, as you age, you realize that all that fat is just going to sludge your blood and causes noticeable trouble.


93dffa  No.12177191

>>12177189

>

4. High Fasting Blood Sugar. Dr. Greger points out that there is an insulin-producing index that was created for a variety of foods. Counterintuitively for many, beef has a pretty high insulin index. What?!? How can a food with virtually no carbs produce an insulin spike?

The reason is simple: modern beef is very fatty and these fats get broken down into fatty acids that end up stored in muscle and liver cells. When these cells start getting packed with fat, insulin resistance sets in. In fact, researchers use high fat diets all the time to induce insulin resistance in lab animals.

The irony in this is that many low carb men do not realize that they are actually quite insulin resistant in spite of the fact that they have consumed very few carbs. Because of this, they often have high fasting blood glucose levels. Now, if they are just a little high, it may not be much of an issue. However, to play it safe, many physicians now urge low carb followers to pull their A1C also and make sure that average blood glucose levels are not too high. Again, some men just do not do well with low carb and higher glucose levels will age tissues and potentially lead to chronic disease(s).

5. High Fasting Insulin Levels. Some low carb men - again, I am not saying all - have sky high fasting insulin levels. I was just chatting with one whose numbers were 15+. Of course, this is potentially dangerous for many reasons, including the fact that high insulin levels are pro-cancer and pro-inflammatory. Again, the irony here is that a low carb person can have just as many blood insulin and glucose issues as men eating a lot of refined carbohydrates.

6. Decreased Exercise Performance (Higher Intensities). Have you had a low carb person tell you that their diet has been shown in the studies to increase exercise performance. I have. The person left out one little detail: this is only true at lower exercise intensity levels! And they also failed to mention was that still other research shows that at higher intensity levels, low carb or ketogenic diets actually lower exercise performance.


93dffa  No.12177192

>>12177191

So, if you plan on slowly pedaling your say from New York to LA, a low carb diet may be a decent alternative. But if you are doing almost any sport, or are weight lifting or strength training or doing more serious cycling or running, you'll need carbs and you'll need a decen tamount. This has been shown over and over again. This is old news to anyone in the fitness business or athletics. Just do a quick search on glycogen replacement and stores and you will see that loading yourself with carbs post-workout is critical. In fact, some of you will be surprised to know that:

a) It is critical for athletes to consume a good amount of carbs post-workout in order to in order to activate their glycolytic enzymes sufficiently to handle the ensuing (and necessary) glycogen loading sequence.

b) Those interested in gaining muscle need to eat a good amount of carbs post-workout in order to insure adequate hypertrophy. (Insulin is highly anabolic.)

NOTE: Many of my readers are interested in enhancing their exercise performance, endurance, power and so on. The above 2009 study on rats found that animals on a high fat diet could run only about half as far as those on a low fat diet. [18] This is simple chemistry: fat is an inefficient energy source for your muscles. Just as bad is the fact that a recent study found that carbohydrates are just as essential as protein go muscle gains. [21]


4d6f59  No.12178610

>>12177184

>Dr (((esselstein)))

>(((nutritiondata)))

>>12177192

>study on rats

Nice sources faggot

>And when you feed dietary cholesterol to mammals that don't usually get atherosclerosis (e.g., rabbits), that creates atherosclerosis

If you feed animals shit that they have not evolved to eat, then it kills them? Good job dr esselstein. Chalk another Nobel prize up for the jews

>What you are not going to hear about is the fact that high ketone levels can disturb the heart nodes responsible for your heart beat.

100% impossible unless the person has type 1 diabetes. This idiot has no clue what he's talking about.


e1ff98  No.12178627

File: a56c40282cf985d⋯.jpg (148.23 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, .jpg)

my ancestors ate potatoes and haggis


4d8733  No.12178906

File: 4eeda7f7100df3c⋯.webm (2.87 MB, 216x400, 27:50, Mexican_Fillet.webm)

I've been on Keto for well over 3 years. There seems to be a lot of retards on here that are just now being introduced to Keto due to it's increased popularity amongst mainstream media. Due to the increase in popularity, much of the real science has been lost to talking heads bullshit.

the decades long facade of the 'fat is bad' bullshit was not a coincidence. This was an effective method of making the entire population very sick. It worked. Now people are very sick, and they're dying. This was (((they're))) intent.

Keto is the ultimate way to combat the kikes. ==I promise you; it will turn you ubermensch.== It will. I'm talking full on bone structure changes and testosterone increases.

My two cents to anyone interested in changing their life; physically, mentally, and spiritually:

1) Go out and grab some ketone sticks from CVS for the fist month. Track your ketone levels. This will get you comfortable in knowing what will and will not kick you out of keto. You won't need them after the first month of so.

2) Stick with whole foods. Especially now that there is an official keto industry. Most "Keto products" are fucking retarded and filled with shit like vegetable oils and soy. Stick with what your ancestors ate, meat, eggs, fish, poultry, some veggies. I do broccoli and brussel sprouts.

3) Don't cheat. Ever. You want to be superhuman? Don't be a fucking loser and eat fucking ice cream 3 times per week.

THIS IS IMPORTANT

4) Research intermittent fasting. The human body is not adapted to eating 3-5 times per day. Your ancestors would go days without food. They would kill something, eat it, then repeat. Your body needs more than 12 fucking hours of fasting to actually digest food and heal itself. I personally do a weekly 24hr fast on my heavy lifting day. Trust me. Fasting on keto will change fucking everything. You've got bowel problems? Skin problems? literally any health problems? Fasting WILL solve nearly everything. There's a reason that (((they))) shoahed the concept of fasting around 100 years ago. Fasting used be be commonplace in western society. (mostly due to religious reasons) Now, most people think it's some fad. It's not. You want to look like Arno Brekker subjects? Fasting is your answer.

5) Experiment. Obviously, everyone is different genetically. So, experiment and find a groove that works for you. I eat the same things nearly every day.

- Breakfast, nothing

- Lunch, Mackerel/Oysters/Deli Turkey/Roast Beef/Chicken, occasionally i will add aged cheese. I do one cup of coffee with heavy cream and high-quality butter from grass-fed cows.

- Dinner, Steak, Chicken, Fish.

-Snacks/Treats - i know this is where some people struggle. My go to is Peanut butter + whipped cream. Don't overdo it. I'm also obsessed with 5% Greek Yogurt by Fage or Supernatural. I will add PB2 powder to it and if I'm feeling good, I'll add some form of confectioner to get my sweets fix.

DYOR - Peter Attia and Dom D'Agostino were the ones that got me going years ago. I haven't been in the scene in some time due to all of the annoying "buy these exogenous ketone mix" bullshit ads, but go back to the guys that pioneered this shit. A book called Tripping Over the Truth will start you in the right direction.

And yes, your ancestors ate bread, potatoes, etc. This was done out of necessity. We live in a time where we get to choose to eat like an ubermensch. So stop eating like a fucking loser. Man up and fucking do it. If you can't, you're weak and should an hero immediately.

Remember what we're up against.

'''The most precious possession you have in this world…

is your own people.

And for this people…

and for the sake of this people,

we will struggle and fight.

And we shall never slacken…

never tire…

never lose courage…

And never lose faith.'''


42d445  No.12178969

>>12178627

fuck off racemixed spic abomination


bf64a0  No.12180320

File: b10c66d71d4d5bc⋯.jpg (75.24 KB, 674x477, 674:477, 850 Calorie Comparison Fru….jpg)

File: 4d6d6ec27dc4d82⋯.gif (3.8 KB, 452x523, 452:523, (((You))).gif)

>>12177176

>>eat as your ancestors did

>>50% of calories from fat

>lmao you fucking brainlet retard. enjoy your cardiovascular disease and insulin resistance.

Insulin resistance is caused by an increased uptake of easily digested carbohydrates.

>>12177181

>>Fruit is just sugar. Vegetables and fiber are overrated, they are just for taste.

But it is. Go on and name me one essential vitamin or trace mineral found readily available in fruit or vegetables. Hint: There are none. Fruits and veggies have never been proven to be actually beneficial for overall health. Some people do better without them.

>>12177184

>More disinfo brainlets ITT

KEK. If you only knew what irony meant.

>>12177189

>>12177191

>>12177192

Trying really hard at disinfo shilling, aren't we? Two shekels have been added to your bank account. Now go eat your daily share of foreskins, fucking disgusting kike.


3e8400  No.12180345

>>12178906

I’ve got to ask you anon. I’ve seen a lot of people ask Keto people about constipation but when I eat Keto I have the exact opposite problem. How do I avoid very loose b.m.?


bf64a0  No.12180469

>>12180345

Not him, but I might be able to give some advice. What do you usually eat, especially up to two hours before experiencing diarrhea?


3e8400  No.12181506

>>12180469

I eat eggs, bacon, some type of meat, and a vegetable like broccoli, asparagus, artichoke hearts, cauliflower, or a salad. Butter, olive oil, or coconut oil for cooking or on vegetable. Coffee in the morning with cream.

The diarrhea is in the a.m. when I normally go. But it could be more than once in a day. Makes it hard for me to have a life on Keto. Not unless I want to stay home every day. Are some people just not able to eat hflc?


bb12bd  No.12181530

How is this diet possible on a budget? Protein is expensive. Good fats can be expensive. Carbs are cheap as fuck. I'm talking over 1000 calories for a dollar or less.


4d6f59  No.12181532

>>12181506

Maybe lower your fat. If you're eating a ton of coconut oil that can give you the shits.


3bf0a9  No.12181572

Has anyone had experience either buying an entire cow and eating that for a year, or maybe living off of game meat?


3e8400  No.12181645

>>12181532

I just saw a short video by Dr. Eric Berg. He said increased bile to digest saturated fats can case it. He recommends eating easily digestible vegetables for a month. (Lettuce, cucumber, tomato, zucchini, bell peppers, and bean sprouts) He says broccoli, cauliflower, artichoke, and even spinach can cause issues. I don’t eat a lot of coconut oil, only to sauté a vegetable or pan fry meat or fish. Cutting back on fat makes Keto pointless, so I’ll try swapping the vegetables and see if that helps. If it doesn’t I’ll have to see a doctor to make sure I don’t have some other issue.

Never had a problem in the past eating Atkins or HFLC, but I always eventually drift back to carbs. I went on a BART diet (banana, applesauce, rice, toast) to stop the runs and it works but it’s all carbs. As soon as I go back to low carb the runs come back.


4d6f59  No.12182461

>>12181645

>(((Berg)))

Serves him right, he trusted a Jew.

>easily digestible

>vegetables

Pick only one.

>Cutting back on fat makes Keto pointless,

It doesn't if you up your protein.


bf64a0  No.12183466

>>12181506

Could be adaptation, could be an intolerance of dairy fats and/or vegetable fats.

Berg is an Idiot. He confuses Ketoacidosis with Ketosis to claim vegetable carbohydrates are necessary to maintain a safe state of ketosis. However, only Type 1 Diabetics should be wary of Ketoacidosis. See vid embedded.

My suggestion is trying a reductionist approach. Eat very fatty beef, drink some water. See how your body reacts. If you don't observe adverse effects, add dairy fats like butter. And so on. If you continue getting the runs on nothing but beef and water, your body needs to still adapt to the increased fat uptake.

Ketoacidosis

Overview

Diabetic ketoacidosis is a serious complication of diabetes that occurs when your body produces high levels of blood acids called ketones.

The condition develops when your body can't produce enough insulin. Insulin normally plays a key role in helping sugar (glucose) — a major source of energy for your muscles and other tissues — enter your cells. Without enough insulin, your body begins to break down fat as fuel. This process produces a buildup of acids in the bloodstream called ketones, eventually leading to diabetic ketoacidosis if untreated.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/diabetic-ketoacidosis/symptoms-causes/syc-20371551


bf64a0  No.12183467

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12183466

Here's the video.


000000  No.12184951

>>12183466

>he confuses

The confusion is intentional and it's done by a lot of people. They're not confused, they're sowing confusion.


f63527  No.12185746

>>12007068

Are you a ninja by any chance?


de4dcf  No.12185983

>>12085065

> Have little choice because we live inside of a city in the UK

Are you stupid? The UK has a shitload of local farms a quick drive outside of every town.

If you are unable to find any there are also a lot of farms that specialise in online orders.

I honestly cant think of a single place in the UK where you wouldn't be a stones throw away from decent local produce unless you were literally swimming in the middle of the sea.


07b86a  No.12186207

>>12156367

>This heavy meat diet and big (((dairy))) industry that was introduced to us in the past century is turning men into numales

Might it have anything to do with the BGH and soy-fed stock, instead of pure meat?


fa7f81  No.12186340

>>12007077

HOLY SHIT ANON, Wim Hof method based af. Today i ran like never before


000000  No.12189170

>>12186207

Not at all. In the old (pre-WWII) days grain was a luxury eaten in small quantities. Potatoes, meat, and starchy tubers like rutabega, turnips, and carrots were eaten. You'd maybe have one biscuit or pancake in the morning and another small helping of grain with your evening meal.


000000  No.12189173

>>12189170

* and oatmeal


5a16af  No.12189543

>>12180320

>Insulin resistance is caused by an increased uptake of easily digested carbohydrates.

There has never been any evidence to support this myth.

>Go on and name me one essential vitamin or trace mineral found readily available in fruit or vegetables

Vitamins A, C, E, K, most of the B complex vitamins, potassium, selenium, copper, and magnesium. How can you be that retarded?

>>12181506

Stop being a ketard. Your shits are due to the massive increase in stress hormones increasing lipid peroxidation and cellular degeneration. Eat some potatoes or have a glass of orange juice you god damned moron.

>>12181645

>I just saw a short video by Dr. Eric Berg. He said increased bile to digest saturated fats can case it.

And he has no evidence to support his random nonsense.

>>12189170

Grain has never been a luxury. From Roman times all through to modern times grain has been the cheapest food. We have lots of expressions still in all European languages based on this fact. Like in English we have "the daily grind" and "our daily bread" precisely because 99% of the population ground grain into flour to bake bread every day, which was the main food for the day. Potatoes are from the new world, no Europeans were eating potatoes until the late 1500s.


000000  No.12189601

>>12189543

>grain has been the cheapest food

Wrong, that'd be turnips and rutabagas. And the poor's bread (vast majority produced) was made mostly from ground peas and lentils, and seaweed in coastal areas, not grains (grain content 25% typical).

t. amateur food historian


3ef7b2  No.12189618

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>>12007068

>All Carbs are fibre.

Sugar and alcohol are fiber?


7a72f8  No.12190351

>>12016141

Due to this post I’ve listened to about 4 hours of your content Cole and I’m convinced you’re shilling your yt but I’m also convinced enough to trial it.

I’ll report back in two weeks I’m 6” 185 pounds, 16% bf. if it works I’ll post photos


9dbb50  No.12190360

>>12189543

>Potatoes are from the new world, no Europeans were eating potatoes until the late 1500s.

Very true, and this isn't even only about nutrition per se. The whole of modern European history and geopolitics (e.g. the rise of Prussia) depended on the introduction of the humble potato.


bf64a0  No.12190547

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>>12189543

>Vitamins A, C, E, K, most of the B complex vitamins, potassium, selenium, copper, and magnesium. How can you be that retarded?

Oh, the irony, my friend. Plants don't contain:

-Vitamin A

-Vitamin B12

-Vitamin D

-Vitamin K2

Also, plants do contain a certain amount of essential minerals, that is correct. You have to take the much worse bioavailability of minerals contained in plants into account, however. Also, plants contain anti-nutrients like phytic acid which further inhibit the uptake of said minerals which aren't that bioavailable in the first place. Who's the retard now, faggot?


5a16af  No.12190600

>>12189601

Repeating nonsense won't make it true. Turnips were cheaper by the pound, but that is not the relevant question. Cost per calorie is, which is why literally every single working class home ground grain and baked bread every single day for nearly 2000 years. Peas were not used for bread, they were used for peas porridge. Bread was made from different grains at different eras, ranging from spelt to barley to wheat.

>>12190547

I didn't say anything about B12 or D or K2 you braindead nigger. Yes, they do contain vitamin A. Vitamin A content is not defined as retinol, it is retinol or any of the provitamin A carotenoids.

>Who's the retard now, faggot?

That would be you. You ignored what I said and responded with irrelevant nonsense. Nobody said veganism was good. Nobody said phytates don't exist. I listed a whole bunch of vitamins and minerals that are found readily available in fruits or vegetables. But hey, oranges don't cure scurvy because you're butthurt about your mom making you eat spinach last night.


bf64a0  No.12190656

>>12190600

>That would be you. You ignored what I said and responded with irrelevant nonsense

Wrong. The low bioavailability of minerals found in plants as well as the anti-nutrients found in most legumes and grains are very relevant.

>But hey, oranges don't cure scurvy because you're butthurt about your mom making you eat spinach last night.

Vitamin C uses the same metabolic pathways like glucose. Diets low in glucose don't require vitamin C, like the carnivore diet, for example.

Carotenoids need to be transformed to retinol via complex metabolic pathways. Some people seem to do be able to do that at an OK rate, others do that at a much worese efficiency. Carotenoids are merely a precursor to Vitamin A. Plants don't contain Vitamin A.


bf64a0  No.12190663

>>12190656

Looking back, I might have been a bit more precise with my initial claim; I might give you that. Plants do contain Vitamins like Vitamin C. However, plants are an overall worse choice as a source for vitamin or minerals when compared to animal-based whole foods like liver, eggs, meat and full-fat dairy. The consumption of plants is absolutely unnecessary and for some people even detrimental to their health.


d9c2ae  No.12191262

>>12016106

Then why does Conor McGregor, one of the most successful MMA fighters among others, not eat carbs at all? He said so himself he rarely eats carbs and if he does, it's a sweet potatoes on occasion.


d9c2ae  No.12191314

>>12016141

This. Fasting was a regular part of our ancestors regimen and hunter-gatherers. Humans are not made to eat 3 times a day. Intermittent fasting is the way to go, followed by 3 day water or dry fasts monthly.


d9c2ae  No.12191445

>>12156367

What a fucking moron. Why don't you look up the diet of Roman legions or citizens. THEY COULDN'T AFFORD MEAT YOU DUMB FUCK. That's why Romans were fucking tiny compared to Gauls and Germans. Their Diet was absolute trash consisting nothing but bread and the occasional Fish/Meat/vegetables if you had the money for it.


d9c2ae  No.12191503

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>>12178906

Great advice. Heil.


c67f7c  No.12191517

>>12191262

They key to heavily anaerobic activity without carbs, as McGregor talks about, is high protein and becoming very adapted to the diet. The biggest mistake people make on this type if diet is keeping protein too low because they think they need to adhere to a diet for epileptic children. But there really is no benefit to that at all.


c67f7c  No.12191553

>>12191445

Yes, if you are of northern European ancestry then your ancestors were mostly pastoralist for a long time or hunters, not munching hard tack like Romans. It is why north europeans tend to have so much more robust build.


000000  No.12191803

>>12190600

>Turnips were cheaper by the pound, but that is not the relevant question.

Turnips were grown by peasants in their own plots, unlike grain which was typically grown on a Lord's land.

The peasantry got most of their calories from potage (made usually from turnips and meat scraps) and pea bread, which was consumed almost exclusively and was only about 25% grain by dry ingredient weight.

I'm an amateur food historian and I've read quite literally hundreds of books on the subject of diet through the ages.


5a16af  No.12192008

>>12190656

>The low bioavailability of minerals found in plants as well as the anti-nutrients found in most legumes and grains are very relevant.

No, they are not. The lie was that fruits and vegetables don't contain available nutrients. I gave you many examples of that being incorrect. Anti-nutrients in legumes do not remove vitamins from fruit. You are a worthless retard.

>Vitamin C uses the same metabolic pathways like glucose. Diets low in glucose don't require vitamin C, like the carnivore diet, for example

Holy shit you are completely braindead. They absolutely do require vitamin C, people tested this shit a century ago trying to figure out why eskimos aren't dead, how are you 100 years behind the times?

>Carotenoids are merely a precursor to Vitamin A. Plants don't contain Vitamin A.

As I said, vitamin A is defined as both retinol and friends as well as caretenoids. You really suck at this.

>>12191803

Peasants didn't have their own plots, they grew peas, grains, and root crops all on someone else's land. Rarely a lord, usually a monastery. Bread and potage was literally what everyone ate every day. We have records, this isn't controversial or disputed. Every single person ate bread every single day. The fact that you got completely blown the fuck out and now you are trying to deflect is just pathetic. Do you seriously think anyone is going to buy "people ate potage too" as proof that grain was "a luxury eaten in small quantities"?


000000  No.12192067

>>12192008

>Peasants didn't have their own plots

Wrong, they had their own plots. They were expected to farm them for their own food. They did not get paid money for their farm labor with which to buy food. Instead any coppers they scraped together were from odd jobs like being lamp bearers, running deliveries, and other things not related to their bound duties in agriculture.

> they grew peas, grains, and root crops all on someone else's land

Yes but they were afforded their own personal plots for growing their food, which they consumed directly. Tenant farmers still keep up their own plots across Britain, for example, and regular surveys of their shared, personal garden plots are done by actual peasant associations there, even to this day.

I'm a food historian and also I have extensively researched peasantry and the guild system.

>Every single person ate bread every single day.

Incorrect, the staple food of peasants was potage, bread was a luxury which had to be purchased to be obtained, as per the rules of the guild system.

>The fact that you got completely blown the fuck out and now you are trying to deflect is just pathetic.

OK this is epic, now I know you're actually Jewish. While you disagreed with me it's clear that you're not very well informed on the subject, and there was nothing approaching a blowing out. We haven't even got to the citing sources game but that'll be a fun one too. The research has been done, the records are clear.


44e97b  No.12192173

>>12191803

Hey, as a food historian i would ask you to look into blood types and how different blood types need differing nutrition. Type O are beef hunters/gatherers, type A is the mostly vegetarian, tybe B the nomadic soured dairy drinkers and gentler meat eaters, and type AB are un-evolved, but rather a newer type smashing of A and B. Then you have the differing genotypes. Dr. D'adamo has a very interesting written repertory. Can you offer a stream of contentiousness on this for us?


000000  No.12192199

>>12192173

>as a food historian i would ask you to look into blood types and how different blood types need differing nutrition

This isn't really related to food history, but I admit it's possible that blood types and nutritional needs dovetail. Can you provide a link to some kind of executive summary material? I'd like to read it.

Dr. Weston A. Price recorded the physiological changes that populations undergo when diet shifts, so I expect there is more to this than blood types. Seems epigenetics play a big role in adapting our bodies to diets during our lives, as we go along. The more one looks into the subject of nutrition, the more one realizes that the modern 'scientific' state of the art in that realm is dominated by the wrong kinds of people with the wrong sources of funding.


44e97b  No.12192352

>>12192199

I ask your thoughts because when i compare human migratory patterns with blood type pop, there is significant interplay between the two subjects. Very interesting to me as an AB-.


000000  No.12192749

>>12192352

I said I don't know enough on the subject to prove useful but I'd like to read an executive summary if it's available.

I feel that migration has been confused, it's obviously real but (((Max Weber))) wants you to believe that Aryans came from Iran, while I believe that ancient NW Europe was the source, ala Oera Linda.


048ae0  No.12192914

>>12191445

And cheese?

>>12192199

Meat or some other heavy source of protein must be in any diet to make strong warriors.


2e1cf1  No.12193273

>>12007562

What do you recommend for regular ppl trying to avoid inflammatory diseases


b4de4a  No.12193305

>>12015071

Same here, lost a ton of weight going keto, and it doesn't come back if you stay away from bread, grains, and sugars.

I rarely drink, though, as I now find it makes me feel worse than any of its euphoric effects are worth.


b4de4a  No.12193384

>>12178906

This anon speaks the truth.

But watch the peanut butter, they pound sugar and/or corn syrup into very heavy.

All natural peanut butter is fine. It's really just mushed up peanuts and a little salt.


b4de4a  No.12193414

>>12151841

Raw milk regenerates the gut fauna that modern preservatives kill.

And I love cheese.


000000  No.12193749

>>12192914

>Meat or some other heavy source of protein must be in any diet to make strong warriors.

The Hindu and Sikh warrior castes get their protein from cheese, milk, yogurt. But they fell to the beef eating Brits and before that the lamb and goat eating Muslims. In ancient times the Hindus ate beef, this is alluded to in many tales and rituals. Eventually the consumption of meat became authorized only on certain holidays.


bf64a0  No.12194509

>>12192008

>No, they are not. The lie was that fruits and vegetables don't contain available nutrients.

Which they, when compared to whole animal-based foods, certainly do not on a noteworthy scale.

>Anti-nutrients in legumes do not remove vitamins from fruit.

My claim was about minerals, not about vitamins.

>Holy shit you are completely braindead. They absolutely do require vitamin C, people tested this shit a century ago trying to figure out why eskimos aren't dead, how are you 100 years behind the times?

Negligible amounts, when compared to people eating a westernized diet, as far as I am concerned. Feel free to show me otherwise. Eskimos don't require any of your magical vitamin C found in plants when eating their traditional diet. This holds also true for ethnic Europeans when eating a meat-based diet.

>As I said, vitamin A is defined as both retinol and friends as well as caretenoids. You really suck at this.

The mere fact that carotenoids can be labeled as Vitamin A does not imply that we should not call for a distinction between said carotenoids and retinol. This holds also true for the plant-based omega-3 fatty acids found in walnuts, for example. They have to be converted to fatty acids found readily available in animal foods.


98b7af  No.12195076

>>12144454

>Russians

>Asian

Hello Dugin.

>>12149143

I hate Chinese research in this regard. There was a study that was spammed by that Chink shill that said Asians were superior, that claimed that they had higher grey matter levels in their brain. The study did not take into account things that affect grey matter like pornography, which is an epidemic in the West and didn't show those affects on the Chinese. They always fucking ignore something or it completely flies over their heads.

>>12156495

Why do people compare the diets of foreign races to our own. The nilotic are the tallest and darkest niggers in Africa and might not be Bantu in origin, it is of no surprise that they dominated other tribes. Eskimo are snow niggers who have also done nothing for man kind. You sure showed me.

>>12157004

>Muh god!

I don't care for religious ramifications on diet they are irrelevant. Every time I come I to a food/heath thread on /pol/ or /fit/ I am confused. Lots of arguing over whether veggies are bad, grains are all bad, this fad diet looks cool, and nothing or a general guide. It's annoying and confusing because it contradicts a lot I know about the history of what my people used to eat all the time, it's even worse when they site foreign diets! Okinawan, Eskimo, and even fucking Nilotic Nigger diets! What did these people do for mankind why are they shit compared to us? Why is their diet a replacement for ours?

Eat just meat goy!

No dude be a vegetarian!

This has to stop right here. We are omnivores.

>>12192749

Aryans came from Indo-European migration routes don't they? Hyperboria was thought to lie East of Europe at the time.


93dffa  No.12195108

>>12007068

ketofags are fucking brain dead. sugar doesn't cause T2 Diabetes, saturated fat does.

>eat protein

yeah okay, acidic diets are great for your kidneys and bones!


5a16af  No.12195116

>>12194509

>Which they, when compared to whole animal-based foods, certainly do not on a noteworthy scale.

Except I already gave examples that prove you are wrong.

>My claim was about minerals, not about vitamins.

Your claim was about both, read it.

>Eskimos don't require any of your magical vitamin C found in plants when eating their traditional diet.

No, they require non-magical vitamin C from anywhere, just like everyone else. They get it from meat you braindead nigger.

>This holds also true for the plant-based omega-3 fatty acids found in walnuts, for example

No it does not, omega 3s are toxic like all PUFA and have no place in the human diet.

>>12192067

>Wrong, they had their own plots.

Why are you pretending to be a historian if you are going to say shit this obviously wrong?

>They were expected to farm them for their own food

Uh huh? That doesn't mean they owned the land they farmed you retard.

>They did not get paid money for their farm labor with which to buy food.

No shit, they got paid money by selling their crop you braindead nigger. And they paid some of that money, or more often some of their crop, to their landlord in exchange for the use of his land.

>Yes but they were afforded their own personal plots for growing their food

The entire thing was for them to use as they saw fit.

>Tenant farmers still keep up their own plots across Britain

And don't own them. Growing a garden on someone else's land does not make it your land. How can you be this stupid?

>I'm a food historian and also I have extensively researched peasantry and the guild system.

Stop saying that, it just makes your blatant nonsense all the more stupid.

>Incorrect, the staple food of peasants was potage, bread was a luxury which had to be purchased to be obtained, as per the rules of the guild system.

You are confusing bread with wheat you idiotic sack of shit. Wheat was a luxury, peasant breads were made with cheap grains like barley and rye. Here, check out what actual not lying about it historians say:

https://healthandfitnesshistory.com/ancient-nutrition/medieval-european-nutrition/

Oh look, grains were the majority of their calories!

>If you prove me wrong you are a jew!

Truly the highest form of argument, beyond even the smug anime girl.


5a16af  No.12195120

>>12195108

>ketofags are fucking brain dead

Correct.

>sugar doesn't cause T2 Diabetes

Correct.

>saturated fat does.

WTF? No, polyunsaturated fat does. I sure hope that was just a typo and you aren't actually retarded.


079c2b  No.12195161

>>12007637

That's actually true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

TLDR: We are one of the few species who caught prey by persistence, not by speed. Our legs are specifically designed for long long-distance chases. Also this is one of the reasons why we sweat and don't have fur - apparently we needed effective cooling so much.


5a16af  No.12195173

>>12195161

Being capable of something does not mean being specifically designed for it. And there's no evidence that anyone but mini-nogs ever did that, it has nothing to do with humans.


c67f7c  No.12195399

>>12195161

Fake news. Nobody ever used that as a serious hunting method, retard.


bf64a0  No.12195428

>>12195116

>Except I already gave examples that prove you are wrong.

No, you did not. Plant based Vitamin A is not readily available. Plant based Vitamin C might not even be necessary.

>Your claim was about both, read it.

Please show it to me, then.

>No, they require non-magical vitamin C from anywhere, just like everyone else. They get it from meat

Yes, in much lower amounts than people eating a westernized diet. Plant based vitamin C is unnecessary.

>No it does not, omega 3s are toxic like all PUFA and have no place in the human diet.

Didn't read about that one. Please elaborate.

My point is:

-Plants as food are completely unnecessary and should be eaten for taste. No delusions about their acclaimed healthiness should be made. No studies which prove fruits and vegetables are healthy have been conducted so far.

-Animal-based whole foods like meat, liver, butter, eggs and so on are more nutritionally dense than plant foods. Their nutrients are bioavailable.

Now, could we settle this?

By the way, I never came across your position on a ketogenic diet before:

>A typical keto diet accidentally removes unsaturated fats, which is why it actually works, not because of carbs or protein.

Could you provide further information on that?


de860f  No.12195449

>>12193273

Intermittent fasting. Less sugar. Less/no alcohol.


c67f7c  No.12195470

>>12195428

>Could you provide further information on that?

That statement alone proves that he's a moron and doesn't have any idea what he's talking about. No more information needed.


bf64a0  No.12195476

>>12195470

>That statement alone proves that he's a moron and doesn't have any idea what he's talking about. No more information needed.

Oh, really? I am not even sure how that Anon defined a certain diet as "working". Ketogenic diets sure seem to help with certain ailments, epilepsy being one of them.


5a16af  No.12195572

>>12195428

>No, you did not

Yes I did. Saying "I don't care about that" doesn't make it go away. An orange contains a large quantity of perfectly bioavailable vitamin C. A potato contains a large quantity of perfectly bioavailable potassium. The fact that you do not need to get them from those sources doesn't change the fact that they are sources. That's like saying beef isn't high in zinc because you can get zinc without eating beef. It isn't just irrelevant, it is deliberately dishonest.

>Plant based Vitamin C might not even be necessary.

It is absolutely not necessary. That has nothing to do with anything. Your lie was that fruit does not contain vitamins or minerals. It does. The fact that you do not need to get them from fruit is not at issue.

>Please show it to me, then.

Read you own post you fucking retard. "Go on and name me one essential vitamin or trace mineral found readily available in fruit or vegetables"

>Yes, in much lower amounts than people eating a westernized diet.

No, lots of them require more because they eat too much fish.

>Plant based vitamin C is unnecessary.

Again, a completely irrelevant statement. Dairy based calcium is unnecessary too, that doesn't change the fact that dairy is a good source of calcium.

>Please elaborate

What is there to elaborate? PUFA are toxic. It is called lipid peroxidation, and the resulting toxins are the primary cause of stress hormone imbalances which cause "type 2 diabetes", thyroid dysfunction, osteoporosis, arthritis, alzheimers, etc.

>My point is

I didn't respond to the point you were failing to make in your imagination, I responded to the claim you actually made. I do not read minds.

>Plants as food are completely unnecessary and should be eaten for taste

That's retarded. We're omnivores, and all available evidence suggests that eating like omnivores reduces chronic disease and increases lifespan. Notice how eskimos have such short lifespans and high rates of tons of diseases? It is because of their shit diet. Many plant foods are very healthy, and there is no reason to pretend they are evil just because you are stupid.

>Animal-based whole foods like meat, liver, butter, eggs and so on are more nutritionally dense than plant foods

For some nutrients yes, for others no. This is why anyone who isn't completely fucking retarded eats both.

>Could you provide further information on that?

Studies going all the way back to the 1930s show metabolism is slowed when consuming PUFA. They had people losing weight and improving all general health markers while consuming nothing but purified milk protein, glucose syrup and/or potato starch and a multivitamin. Carbs are perfectly fine, this is obvious when you look at what has changed in our diets since the obesity/diabetes/osteoporosis epidemic started. We always ate lots of saturated fats, it was obvious that saturated fats were not the problem when they started vilifying them. We always ate lots of carbs. It is obvious that carbs are not the problem either. Unsaturated fats were not food until modern times. We ate lard, butter, tallow, etc. The only unsaturated fat used was olive oil, which is a relatively safe monounsaturated fat. The only change has been the replacement of saturated fats with polyunsaturated fats like canola, soy, corn, and sunflower oils. These were previously used for making oil based paints and varnishes. When crude oil became cheap and abundant after WW2, we started using it for those purposes instead. And so the agricorp industry lobbied for their non-food vegetable oils to be used as food and marketed as "heart healthy" alternatives to the safe animal fats we traditionally ate.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fats-functions-malfunctions.shtml

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsuitablefats.shtml

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml


bf64a0  No.12195642

>>12195572

>Yes I did. Saying "I don't care about that" doesn't make it go away. An orange contains a large quantity of perfectly bioavailable vitamin C. A potato contains a large quantity of perfectly bioavailable potassium. The fact that you do not need to get them from those sources doesn't change the fact that they are sources. That's like saying beef isn't high in zinc because you can get zinc without eating beef. It isn't just irrelevant, it is deliberately dishonest.

You are correct on that. I obviously did not put enough effort into getting my point across in the first place.

>That's retarded. We're omnivores, and all available evidence suggests that eating like omnivores reduces chronic disease and increases lifespan.

As far as I know, only observational studies have been done on that matter. Is there concrete data?

>Notice how eskimos have such short lifespans and high rates of tons of diseases?

Which timeframe are we talking about? If we are talking about this century any point of the "eskimo diet" is moot anyway, because they eat large amounts of western foods nowadays. Lower life expectancy in the early 20th century, when some eskimos where still eating their traditional diet was mostly caused by streaks of starvation. The eskimos clearly seem to suck at planning ahead; if having access to vast amounts of foods they sometimes did not store food for harder times. Also, eskimos grew fanatic about tobacco as soon as they were introduced to it. In addition to that, you have to take accidents into account, which occur naturally in an environment like the arctic.

>For some nutrients yes, for others no

Which nutrients would you recommend acquiring from plants?


000000  No.12195815

>>12195116

>Why are you pretending to be a historian if you are going to say shit this obviously wrong?

It's not wrong, you're just uninformed.

>No shit, they got paid money by selling their crop

Their crops were taken directly from them, they didn't fucking sell their crops to their lord. You're clearly completely uninformed about European peasantry.

>The entire thing was for them to use as they saw fit.

Wrong again, Jew. Crop planning was done by the Lord's staff, the peasants were however able to plant what they wished in their own plots.

I'm a food historian, as well as being an expert on medieval peasantry, the guild system, and many other things which you pretend knowledge of.

Looking at your posts ITT you're just a sperg, this will be my last reply to you. Filtered.


000000  No.12195820

>>12195161

Literally no culture ever just chased down animals until they flopped over and died of being tired. That's fucking retarded and goes contrary to all available cultural and archaeological evidence. Plus, the guy who came up with that retarded theory is a Jew who has never been hunting in his life.


000000  No.12195829

>>12195076

>Aryans came from Indo-European migration routes don't they? Hyperboria was thought to lie East of Europe at the time.

In Hyperboria the sun rose and set twice a year. This is an allusion to it being located far north. Read Arctic Home In The Vedas for proofs based on Vedic astronomical details which have come down to us from the remotest antiquity.

I'm a believer in the Oera Linda Book personally, which tells of what we now know is Doggerland.


5a16af  No.12195833

>>12195642

>Which timeframe are we talking about?

All of it.

> If we are talking about this century any point of the "eskimo diet" is moot anyway, because they eat large amounts of western foods nowadays.

That has only been the case since the 1960s, and that is only the case for some of them. The ones living in the middle of nowhere eating the same thing they have always eaten still have the same shitty health and lower life expetencies. The ones eating modern packaged (((food))) are just even worse off than that.

>Lower life expectancy in the early 20th century, when some eskimos where still eating their traditional diet was mostly caused by streaks of starvation.

No, they were chalked up to "old age", but in fact they were dying off in their 50s. White people assumed those 50 something eskimos were in their 70s because they looked it. It isn't just average life expediency that was low, people talking to eskimos found out that fish eating eskimos had never heard of anyone living to 70, they simply assumed people don't live that long. The fact that they ate brains and thyroid glands helped protect them against all the fish oil they were eating, but it still wasn't enough to keep them healthy long term. That's why the caribou eating eskimos are healthier than the fish eating ones.

>Which nutrients would you recommend acquiring from plants?

Most of them, the same as I would recommend acquiring from meat and dairy. Have a steak and baked potato with cheese and some carrots smothered in butter and then have a slice of apple pie with ice cream and a coffee to finish it off. There's nothing wrong with any of that. Just stay away from things we know are toxic or have anti-nutrient effects. Things like PUFA, phytoestrogens, phytohaemagglutinin, etc.

>>12195815

>Their crops were taken directly from them

That depends on the era and the specific situation, like I told you.

>they didn't fucking sell their crops to their lord

Nobody suggested they did you retard.

>Crop planning was done by the Lord's staff

Again, the existence of said lord isn't even a certainty. When they existed, sometimes they told their tenants what to grow, but that wasn't typical.

>I'm a food historian, as well as being an expert on medieval peasantry, the guild system, and many other things which you pretend knowledge of.

And yet when I linked to actual historians stating clearly that you are wrong, you just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen. Nice try.


bf64a0  No.12195863

>>12195833

Thanks, Anon. The links you posted seem to be a great resource. I've enjoyed reading the articles so far.

Are you familiar with the research of Weston Price? The Eskimos he investigated were reported to be in excellent health, although I do not have any mentions regarding aging on the top of my head right now.

As for the Eskimos aging quickly: This has also been reported by arctic explorer Stefansson. I remember him writing that seeing an Eskimo women who had grandchildren despite being in her 20s was not uncommon.


eeee6c  No.12195889

>Beer hydrates better than water bc of the sugars.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about


f90c97  No.12195910

>>12085065

My advice to you is move out of the city. UK cities are chemically toxic shitholes filled with diversity. The first thing my wife and I did after we were married was get the fuck out of the city we were living in. We didn't even need to discuss it. When I suggested moving somewhere else, her face lit up and she proceeded to give me reasons as to why we should as though I was the one that needed convincing. Neither of us have any regrets. The quality of life is so much better.


eeee6c  No.12195975

>>12149101

No, it isn't. "starvation" aka Fasting is an ancient TRADITION which exists and existed across many cultures. It is the only process by which your bodies natural healing abilities can fully express themselves. I can't remember which but a well-known ancient Greek philosopher noted that the Egyptians were exceptionally healthy because they fasted for 3 days every month.

It also allows your gut flora to rebalance itself. Don't talk nonsense about colon cancer.

One scottish [grossly obese] man fasted for something like 380 days and suffered no ill effects.


5a16af  No.12196100

>>12195863

There's 3 big problems with Price's research. First, its a typical "subhumans are better than white people" propaganda piece. Second, he didn't actually check the health of anyone, he just looked at their teeth and faces and assumed anyone with few cavities must be healthy, so people who were starving and dying of malnutrition were promoted as "healthy" because they had no cavities. Like those eskimos he investigated, all he did was take pictures of their faces and said they had good facial structure. He didn't bother to check if they were healthy or not. And third, he even cherry picked that, leaving out groups of people that contradicted his pre-selected result. Price gets a lot of worship because what he said is what a lot of people want to hear, but it isn't good science. He started with an accurate observation: modern western diet is causing disease. He then came up with a hypothesis that it was due to sugar, starch and vegetable oil. So far so good. But then instead of testing that hypothesis, he set out to prove it and as a result cherry picked the data that fit his conclusion. Had he approached things scientifically, he would have seen that sugar and starch were not part of the problem, and we would have known about the detrimental effects of vegetable oils sooner and the world would have been much better off. Also keep in mind that the weston price foundation has nothing to do with him, its just a bunch of kikes scamming people like usual.

>>12195975

>No, it isn't. "starvation" aka Fasting is an ancient TRADITION which exists and existed across many cultures.

Only mongrel cultures. We know for certain that fasting produces stress hormones and results in lipid peroxidation and excess cortisol which causes tissue degeneration. It is literally an adaptation to delay immediate death from starvation by destroying the body. There is no evidence that any of the fasting fad bullshit is useful at all.

>One scottish [grossly obese] man fasted for something like 380 days and suffered no ill effects

No, he suffered a whole bunch of ill effects. They were just a better trade off than the ill effects of being so massively overweight.


eeee6c  No.12196168

>>12196100

>destroying the body

yeah, burning excess fuel [fat] and generating ketones that the brain runs on smoother than glucose is totally 'destroying the body'. That's why nobody uses it when bodybuilding. Oh wait, they do.

>stress hormones

Yeah that's totally what happens, that's why monks fast because they can't get enough of that stress.

There are heaps of evidence.

>A whole bunch of ill effects

Which you apparently can't name because there weren't any.


1a76c5  No.12196443

>>12196100

how do other hominid apes besides whites having better health when eating a better diet invalidate Price's observations?


5a16af  No.12196485

>>12196168

>body building is healthy

>monks are logical

You're not very good at this.

>There are heaps of evidence.

Which you don't bother providing, while whining that I didn't specify the health problems of starving. He suffered all the expected nutrient deficiencies and was given supplements to address them. He had regular hospital visits with full blood work done to monitor him so they could address these issues before they caused permanent damage or killed him. And despite that he still suffered fatigue, weakness, headaches and developed arthritis and diminished bone density and lowered thyroid function.

>>12196443

They don't. Maybe you need to learn how to read?


3e28a8  No.12196571

>>12195476

>Oh, really?

Keto does not remove unsaturated fats (all meats have unsaturated fats, usually in higher quantities than saturated fat). That's a retarded statement that proves conclusively that he has no idea what he is talking about. Linking Ray Peat, a quack nutjob who self-publishes "studies" and pretends to be an endocrinologist, proves further that he is a moron.


5a16af  No.12196694

>>12196571

No, I just said "unsaturated fats" instead of PUFA, quit crying. Monounsaturated fats are relatively harmless due to there only being a single bond to oxidize. While modern (((agriculture))) has increased the PUFA content of animal fat in livestock due to feeding a toxic corn+soy diet, it is still much higher in SFA than PUFA, and SFA have a protective effect against damage caused by PUFA. Beef fat is 45% SFA 5% PUFA for example, and the bulk of the PUFA is concentrated in the outer layer of fat near the skin.

The reason why some people see health benefits from keto and others don't is entirely due to PUFA reduction. People whose keto diet is meat, eggs, dairy and veggies have improved health. People whose keto diet includes vegetable oils, nuts/seeds, etc do not. And we've already gone over what a PhD in biology is Schlomo. Where's your evidence of the wonderful health effects of soy and canola and the other industrial waste products you kikes lobbied to have classified as food?


3e28a8  No.12196735

>>12196694

All meats also have polyunsaturated fats.

>And we've already gone over what a PhD in biology is Schlomo.

It does not make one a scientist. Another stupid viewpoint you have that proves you're a dumbass. Conducting research and publishing results makes one a scientist. Which makes Ray Peat definitively not a scientist.

Ray peat loves:

>pretending to be a scientist

>observational studies from 1922

>uncontrolled studies

>orange juice and gelatin

>not understanding basic human physiology

>citing rat studies

>deducing from epidemiology studies

>alternative medicine magazines

>leftism

Ray Peat hates:

>peer review

>controlled experiments

>real food

>avoiding bias


5a16af  No.12198019

>>12196735

>All meats also have polyunsaturated fats.

I just explained that to you. 5% PUFA with 45% SFA is healthy. 50% PUFA with 0% SFA is not. This isn't rocket science.

>It does not make one a scientist

Yes it does.

>Conducting research and publishing results makes one a scientist.

He did that. Just because he also wrote a newsletter doesn't delete his published research.

>Ray Peat hates

Zero of those things. Even his newsletters are full of citations, to actual real studies. You do realize the oilseed lobbyists own studies show people eating saturated fats have better cardiovascular health than people eating "vegetable oil"s right?


000000  No.12198135

>>12195889

This, beer is a diuretic and actually causes you to piss out more water than you gain by drinking it.


45c99b  No.12198175

>>12198019

>Yes it does

False. PhD means nothing. Any retard can get a PhD, especially in an unrigorous field like biology.

>He did that

No, he didn't.

>Even his newsletters are full of citations, to actual real studies

Rat studies and uncontrolled studies and observational studies from the early 20th century and in vitro studies and epidemiology studies and studies that have no relation to what he is even talking about in his articles. And most of the time he does not even cite these. He just writes an article and then includes a long list of (mostly unrelated) references at the bottom (of the type mentioned).

Another thing Ray Peat loves: ignoring all relevant research that contradicts his claims while cherry picking only those types of research that could tangentially support them.


5a16af  No.12198451

>>12198135

No it does not. Lots of people got all their water intake from beer and ale for hundreds of years because their wells were full of bacteria. Beer absolutely does not hydrate you better than water, but it also absolutely does not cause you to dehydrate either. Stop being retarded.

>>12198175

>False. PhD means nothing. Any retard can get a PhD, especially in an unrigorous field like biology.

Sure thing Schlomo. Your degree in kikeposting clearly proves that biology isn't real.

>ignoring all relevant research that contradicts his claims while cherry picking only those types of research that could tangentially support them.

So instead of saying "facts don't count because I don't like the guy I heard them from" over and over, how about you provide this contradictory research? Where's your evidence for the amazing benefits of (((vegetable oil))) and the terrible harm of meat and dairy?


45c99b  No.12198958

>>12198451

>Where's your evidence for the amazing benefits of (((vegetable oil))) and the terrible harm of meat and dairy?

I never made either claim. I've advocated eating meat in this topic. My claim was that you're a retard and so is Ray Peat.

For an example of what I'm talking about, take a look at a random article advocating eating a shit ton of sucrose from Peat's website:

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/sugar-issues.shtml

Going down the list of references:

>in critically ill patients

>Effects of administering diets with starch or sucrose basis on certain parameters of calcium metabolism in the young, growing rat

>Sources of variation in fecal cortisol levels in howler monkeys in Belize

>stroke-prone spontaneously hypertensive rat

>glycolysis and lipogenesis in rats

>hypertensive rat

>plasma glucose levels in the spiny mouse

>morphology of rat cerebral cortex and hippocampus

>insulin-injected hamsters

>spontaneously hypertensive rats and Wistar rats fed a diet enriched with fructose and saturated fatty acids

>genetically obese Zucker fatty rat

>adrenalectomized rats

>osteoporosis-induced rats

>isolated rat hepatocytes

>skeletal muscle of the fructose-fed rat model

>in vitro

And on and on. You can do this for any of his articles. And the ones that aren't rat studies are either irrelevant to the point of the article itself, epidemiological type studies, in vitro, etc. Of course, a real scientist specializing in human physiology, as Peat claims to be, would know that studies of rats and howler monkeys are not generalizable to normal human physiology, nor is it sufficient for deriving nutritional guidelines for normal humans.


5a16af  No.12198980

>>12198958

So your argument is that the overwhelming evidence presented that sugar is not harmful is wrong because you want it to be. Yeah, that's really compelling. That article does not advocate eating a shit ton of anything, it says sugar is fine, fructose is important, and you should eat fruit. So where is your contradictory evidence? Where's the evidence showing sugar is bad?


9dbb50  No.12200082

>>12115718

>phd in a biological field, ask me anything.

Appreciate the offer, but a phd in does NOT, ipso facto, makes on an authority, especially regarding highly manipulated topics like healthcare and nutrition.


000000  No.12200432

>>12054244

Eggs, legumes.


9dbb50  No.12200990

File: 02f56e0ac60dad5⋯.jpg (28.67 KB, 635x347, 635:347, uuuu.jpg)

>>12124444

>The only way to decide this is by selecting champions to represent each diet faction and have them battle to the death. The superior diet will translate into the superior lifestyle and superior physique. I envision paleo monsters seizing spindly vegans by their ankles and using them as temporarily living weapons against malnourished vegetarians, driven toward their ranks by pursuing keto fags, who are slowed in their pursuit by their lack of carb loading, while everyone ignores the fasters until last as they are too lethargic to do much of anything.

Kek'd and checked.

>>12132944 (checked)

>that's a con to make a market for fish that nobody wants to eat. Now they can catch all of them and grind them into goo and sell it

Incorrect, fish oil production is actually very laborious and costly. You also totally ignore the hundreds of studies regarding positive effects on inflammation, immune function and a host of other omega-3 dependent functions.


5a16af  No.12201158

>>12200990

>Incorrect

How so?

>fish oil production is actually very laborious and costly

That doesn't contradict what I said in any way you fucking idiot. Fish oil was literally a scam to sell an industrial waste product made from garbage fish like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menhaden

>You also totally ignore the hundreds of studies regarding positive effects on inflammation, immune function and a host of other omega-3 dependent functions.

I do not ignore them, they do not exist. Big difference. Show me these magical studies instead of just pretending they exist.


000000  No.12202487

>>12200082

It's OK it was just a concern troll, likely with a sociology or marketing degree if they possessed one.


a1f54e  No.12202669

>>12007068

>Bodybuilders eat 1g. of Protein per 1lb. of body weight.

This is wrong retard, it's 1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN MUSCLE MASS


5a16af  No.12202911

>>12202669

It is a whole bunch of different things because it isn't based on science or evidence, it is based on retarded faggots doing whatever stupid shit they think sounds good. The evidence only supports 0.64 at the highest. We've already gone over this: >>12010641


9fb49a  No.12203268

>>12156109

>Vitamin D3 10,000IU( or get some fucking sunlight)

>Zinc 50mg

>Magnesium 250mg

Optional

>vitamin K2


9fb49a  No.12203305

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Diet is important but make sure that you anons are chewing some hard ass food too, partly the reason why we have all these doughboy subhumans walking around is soft mush jew food and improper breathing.

=BREATH THROUGH YOUR NOSE=

dont be a fucking mouthbreathing untermensch


048ae0  No.12203726

>>12202911

>0.64 at the highest

1.1g of protein per pound of lean bodyweight

At 200lbs I should never ever ever be eating less than 160g of protein a day

With 6 meals a day minimum that is easily attainable at 25-30g of protein a meal.


5a16af  No.12204078

>>12203726

Read the link you braindead nigger.


048ae0  No.12204431

>>12204078

>read the link its the only possible source

i disagree with your link you braindead nigger


096acf  No.12204776

>>12202669

It doesn't matter. You're not gonna get too much protein.

>>12191314

>fasting

>I'm hungry and there's food but I'm not going to eat it because my ancestors starved sometimes

Retarded.


6d6f9b  No.12205369

What OP describes sounds like just eating normal. No need to arbitrarily implement that. Maybe it's different for americans but it sounds to me like just what is a normal diet in literally every other western country


1e7811  No.12205388

>>12112672

>Chicken

>only eating grain and insects

Never seen a mouse enter a chicken pasture? I've seen four chicken quartering a mouse and feasting on its intestines.

Chicken don't fuck around.


37ccfb  No.12205410

"Keto" is a loaded term. Just drink lots of water, eat animal products and the leaf parts of plants (not roots or seed filled bodies). Eat fruit once per year, just before winter.

You wont gain the ability to see around corners, but you will lose a lot of inflamation, cortisol, and will sleep better.

Thats the standard European diet since the ice age and we are adapted to it. Grain, tubers and other shit was imported by Romans and it didnt really reach all Europeans until about 1600-1800.

t. Biologist


1e7811  No.12205424

>>12151841

>What other animal drinks mother's milk after infancy?

What other animal straps itself into 1 ton steel cages with wheels and a powerful engine to travel at speeds higher than any other mammal every single day?

What other animal has created highly complex flying machines designed to shoot down the highly complex flying machines of the enemy during a flight in which it reaches so much acceleration that the animal's legs have to be squeezed by a compression suit so it doesn't faint?


3e8a38  No.12205440

>>12198451

>Lots of people got all their water intake from beer and ale for hundreds of years

Been a decade since I read about that, but wasn't the beer and wine they drank less alcoholic than it usually is today? So I guess that would have hydrated you better than today's beer but still less than water.


3e8a38  No.12205473

>>12205410

>not roots

I just looked it up and I was surprised, are there really no root vegetables native to (northern) europe?

>Eat fruit once per year, just before winter.

What about all the other native fruits that are there earlier during the year like currant, raspberry, strawberry or pears?


096acf  No.12205808

>>12205410

>drink lots of water

Drink what you are thirsty for, no more.


5a16af  No.12205971

>>12204431

>evidence is wrong my feelings are all that matters!

You made a statement of fact, which is contradicted by all evidence.

>>12205410

>and the leaf parts of plants (not roots or seed filled bodies)

That's completely retarded. The leaf parts are the parts full of toxins to try to limit herbation. The roots and tubers are low in toxins.

>Eat fruit once per year, just before winter.

Fruit is available in large quantities for half the year, why would you think our ancestors just decided not to eat any of it for most of that time?

>Grain, tubers and other shit was imported by Romans and it didnt really reach all Europeans until about 1600-1800

By that logic you can't eat anything you find in a store, because none of those fruits, vegetables, grains, meats or dairy products existed in neolithic Europe. Don't be retarded.

>>12205440

Wine yes, beer not really. Their wine was similar in alcohol content to their beers and ales, which were 3-5%. Most modern beer is in that range too. But yes, the higher the alcohol content the worse it is for hydration. You have to go way higher than 5% to make it stop hydrating at all though.

>>12205473

>I just looked it up and I was surprised, are there really no root vegetables native to (northern) europe?

There's plenty. The wild ancestors of carrots, parsnips, onions, garlic, radishes, turnips and beets are all native to Europe. Plus there's several roots and tubers that were common food in pre-roman Europe but that we don't really eat any more like rampions and orchid tubers.


edd722  No.12206110

File: 71da2436de94ce3⋯.jpg (836.01 KB, 862x3832, 431:1916, fasting.jpg)

>>12007068

>Eat As Your Ancestors Did

>Eat

Your ancestors went for long periods of time without food because they had to, starvation was a thing then. We evolved to take advantage of long periods of fasting, where the body diverts energy away from digestion and on healing and rebuilding the body. Keto or not, if you eat more than once a day you have no fucking idea what you're doing.

FAST


5a16af  No.12206549

>>12206110

Every species of animal faces periods of starvation. There has never been any evidence in any of them that fasting is beneficial in any way. Starvation lowers your metabolism, which idiots think must be healthy because they think animals have a set quantity of "life" in them and the faster you use it up the sooner you will die. You are not a candle.


8b6f40  No.12206714

>>12015088

>how do I detox from heavy metal

Stop listening to shitty rock music for edgy teens

And don't forget to take chlorella and spirulina


bf4606  No.12206935

>>12007192

Raw milk from organic farms is super fucking good for you, not the current pasteurized milk from frankenstein cows


ebd956  No.12206975

I wonder, can you help me to prove vegans wrong? He keeps on telling me animal products will cause cancer and vegan food can supply you with all you need in a more healthy way. Now I don't really care about all that nutrition stuff but I'd love to have something that fag won't have an answer too. (He doesn't have an answer to "I don't care" either but I mean something scientific)


5a16af  No.12207214

>>12206935

Organic dairies use the exact same holsteins as every other dairy. If you want to keep preaching braindead "raw milk" bullshit, then provide evidence. Show how heating milk to 160 degrees F makes it stop being good for you. And then explain why this doesn't apply to meat or eggs or cheese or anything else.

>>12206975

He will have an answer to everything because his religion provides answers to everything. He doesn't care about reality or facts or he wouldn't be a vegan in the first place. Why are you wasting time talking to a vegan anyways?


54a62d  No.12207436

>>12178906

>fasting while heavy lifting

What? How can you lift with no atp?


c42a9c  No.12207774

>>12117525

>How do I kick my sugar addiction?

>For 3 whole months I was deeply depressed.

You might have a dopamine issue and without the sugar you weren't getting enough hits and went into the hole.

Try Phenylalanine it is an amino acid and precursor for dopamine.

It's also really good for quitting coffee without headaches.


f6fef1  No.12207812

I hate how most of those containers are (((plastic))).


096acf  No.12207856

File: 4a92e69eabe66a3⋯.jpg (24.35 KB, 466x466, 1:1, steaksteaksteaksteak.jpg)

>>12206110

>we evolved to starve

We evolved to survive starving. It's a fucking ridiculous idea that our own body signals should be ignored because "Our ancestors starved sometimes, therefore we shouldn't eat when we're hungry".

>>12206549

This. Fasting today could probably be healthy for a lot of people just because not eating forces our bodies to live off higher quality food (literally ourselves/cannibalism, our own reserves) than the garbage that many of us consume. It's a long jump to go from "These sick, pig disgusting diets people are on are bad for them, and they get better when they stop eating them" to "Not eating is good for you".

EAT WHEN YOU'RE HUNGRY

If you can't trust your body to tell you when food will be good for it, then you've probably fucked up your body with garbage tier food, drugs, and starvation.

>>12206935

>>12207214

The best way to find out would be to isolate both at different times and see how each one effects you. The great thing about food is you can test every theory yourself. I would certainly like to try raw milk, but I know that lately, since I've been eating nothing but meat, dairy sits pretty well with me, whereas before my dairy intake was always accompanied with various plantfoods, and I'd get acne.

>>12117525

Eat steak.


e57e25  No.12207888

>>12207856

>The best way to find out would be to isolate both at different times and see how each one effects you.

Yeah but

>You have to do it a year or two to see the effects>>12207214

>He will have an answer to everything because his religion provides answers to everything.


e57e25  No.12207910

>>12207856

>Eat steak.

Tend to agree. Meat will saturate you for the longest time. On top of that, drink normal (and by normal I mean huge) amounts of water and you'll discover quickly that you're not really hungry or even in the mood to eat something. A cigarette will harden that knowledge, but that's not something I should advise to do.


096acf  No.12207993

>>12207888 (heiled)

>You have to do it a year or two to see the effects

No you don't. I can tell nearly immediately when a dairy product is not digesting well, and if acne is to show up it does so within 24 hours. If you were to consume nothing but dairy for a year you'd probably begin running short on certain nutrients. Any negative effects at that point couldn't be simply be chalked up to the dairy.

>>12207910

>Meat will saturate you for the longest time

I've noticed this too. I end up apparently fasting just because I'm fully sated for the day after a good serving of rare fatty meat, but when I'm hungry again another steak is as delicious as ever.

>huge amounts of water

Don't agree. Drink as you would eat: when your body says you should.


965f73  No.12208043

>>12207993

>Drink as you would eat: when your body says you should.

I think his point with this is that when someone thinks they feel hungry, they should have a drink of water first. Those that eat a poor diet loose the ability to fully understand what their body wants and confuse the want of water for the want of food.


096acf  No.12208136

>>12208043

Well he says "huge", so I can still disagree, but yeah a poor diet will make your body signals harder to understand, especially if one thinks the poor diet they're on is good for them because authority said so.


37ccfb  No.12208752

>>12205971

Toxins are present throughought a plant, I think youre confusing BT toxin?? I would suggest you not eat toxic plants.

As for fruits, its about amounts, not specific. Fruit isnt something you can eat daily throughout a year and expect no consequences.

As for new world plants and middle east plants, they ARE a massive problem. We have evolved for an ice age diet, meaning very little fruit due to short growing season or roots from frozen ground.

Eskimos are similar, their diet is mostly meat.


5a16af  No.12208788

>>12208752

>I think youre confusing BT toxin?

No. Plants produce toxins to deter animals from eating their leaves and seeds. Compare the oxalate content of beet greens vs beet root. Or the glycoalkaloid content of tomato leaves vs tomato fruit. The plant concentrates the toxins in the leaves and seeds because that's what animals can waltz by and eat, but doesn't put it in the root because that's not generally accessible to animals. This is why nuts, beans, grains, etc are bad, but fruits and roots are fine. If you don't have the faintest clue what you are talking about, don't post complete bullshit advice that other people might mistake for useful.

>Fruit isnt something you can eat daily throughout a year and expect no consequences.

Yes it is. There is no problem with eating fruit.

>As for new world plants and middle east plants, they ARE a massive problem.

No they are not. Your body does not know or care where a plant or animal evolved. Chickens come from the jungles of south asia, that doesn't mean chicken is bad for white people. The content of the food is what matters.

>We have evolved for an ice age diet, meaning very little fruit due to short growing season or roots from frozen ground.

We moved south during the ice age you retard.

>Eskimos are similar, their diet is mostly meat.

Eskimos have terrible health. Copying non-whites is dumb enough, but copying non-whites that die 10 years younger than whites and have tons of chronic healthy problems is braindead.


b0a557  No.12209760

I'm starting to feel an aversion towards meat, when eating I just want it to end, no moral qualms or anything, I just feel disgusted, like, suddenly from nowhere, I feel no appetite towards meat anymore, any kind of meat. How can I fix this? I've been on Keto for almost a month.


000000  No.12209780

>>12209760

Learn to select, season, and cook it properly. What meats do you eat and how do you cook them?


bf64a0  No.12210197

>>12208788

>Eskimos have terrible health. Copying non-whites is dumb enough, but copying non-whites that die 10 years younger than whites and have tons of chronic healthy problems is braindead.

We've already been through this. You never provided any source on that, especially considering the fact that eskimos picked up tobacco and alcohol quickly after it was introduced to them. On the other hand, we do have sources describing their health, their physical strength like Weston Price's Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. You might not like the methodology he used as well as the claim that most physical degeneration is caused by nutrition instead of race-mixing, which used to be a common conception at that time. That however does not change anything about the clear outlook we are presented.

Same with the Masai: Wether their average male height of roughly 1,9m is mostly genetic is up for debate. I know, they are genetically different from whites. However, they have not been plagued by modern diseases of civilization like diabetes, caries, obesity or cancer as long as they sticked to their traditional diet of beef's blood, milk and meat.

>Copying non-whites is dumb enough

Unfortunately, this seems to be what we have to resent to for further study. The northern people of europe introduced a larger volume of grains and general plant matter later than the southern ones. However, we only have vague mentions of the Germans eating a diet of mostly sour milk, meat and some wild fruit, of Icelanders eating mostly mutton, fish and dairy. As for the Icelanders, we know that they at least did not have tooth decay during that time. There also has been a clinical study involving two whites eating an all-meat diet for one year, showing no adverse effects. You will now claim this to be a too short time frame for any reasonable judgement and you might be right. Meanwhile, there never has been any evidence regarding acclaimed negative health effects of eating meat, or eating a diet consisting of nothing but meat. Same goes for acclaimed health benefits of fruits and vegetables. No, observational studies and the retarded (((WHO))) advice of eating no more than an arbitrarily set amount of meat per week does not count.

Clinical Calorimetry:

Prolonged meat diets with a study of liver function and ketosis

http://www.jbc.org/content/87/3/651.full.pdf


8f3749  No.12210297

>>12007068

>have two hands, can take two jars out of the fridge at a time

>have to open and close the fridge 8 times to make a salad

>have to open and close the fridge 8 more times to put the jars back

>food rots a week early because the fridge rises basically to room temperature 3 times a day

>compressor dies within 5 years

A+


4ec5ba  No.12210674

>>12018830

Greeks and Romans most certainly used olive oil, you fucking retard. Avocados grow in both Mediterranean and Tropical climates, so it seem you either have no fucking idea what it is that you are talking about, or you are a fucking Jewish subverter trying to derail the thread.

FUCK OFF


cd3009  No.12210854

>>12007817

you retard. fasting isnt even active until 12 hours with no calories, that includes calories from drinks. anything but tea and water has calories, and your fast hasn't begun until 12 hours, THEN you're actually burning calories and restoring your body. if you cant handle a day without food then go 18 hours at least so you have 6 hours if burned calories. also do cardio in your fasted state and dont gorge when you break the fast or it's all for nothing.


4ec5ba  No.12210979

>>12156440

You're fucking retarded. The Third Reich mandated sedation before animal execution and slaughter and banned kosher barbaric slaughter. The kikes love torture. Go ahead and eat your plants; your body will be just fine eating itself for the nutrients of which you are deprived.


5a16af  No.12210987

>>12209760

Stop being a ketard and eat food.

>>12210197

>On the other hand, we do have sources describing their health, their physical strength like Weston Price's Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

Don't cite Price if you haven't read it. He does not describe anything but their facial structure and teeth. Nothing about their health at all. And we have plenty of other people who did look at their health, and their life expectancy, and that was when we first discovered them, no "omg its white people's fault" idiocy possible. Why exactly do you think some eskimos taking up white habits and diet would make the average life expectancy drop so much if their native diet was so healthy? The ones still eating their native diet should have been pulling the average up. 20% white diet 80% eskimo diet leads to dying 10-20 years earlier than 100% white diet, and you say the white diet is the problem?

> However, they have not been plagued by modern diseases of civilization like diabetes, caries, obesity or cancer as long as they sticked to their traditional diet of beef's blood, milk and meat.

Because those things are caused by PUFA.

>The northern people of europe introduced a larger volume of grains and general plant matter later than the southern ones

And suffered no ill effects. However, as soon as vegetable oil was introduced, we got the modern health disasters. But hey, lets blame carbs that we've been eating for thousands of years without problem.

>You will now claim this to be a too short time frame for any reasonable judgement and you might be right

No, I never said an all meat diet would be bad. I said it is completely unnecessary and stupid. Carbs are not a problem, there is no evidence carbs are a problem, and there is overwhelming evidence that carbs are safe and healthy. PUFA are the problem.


bf64a0  No.12211054

>>12210987

>Don't cite Price if you haven't read it. He does not describe anything but their facial structure and teeth. Nothing about their health at all.

Which is an infinitely better source than any of the sources you provided: zero. Arguing like you currently do is absolutely retarded, you can always add that "But X is not an adequate measure of health, I also demand health markers Y and B added!". We could go on like this forever.

>And we have plenty of other people who did look at their health, and their life expectancy, and that was when we first discovered them

Yet you failed again to deliver any of those testimonies. If you claim that the health of the eskimos was horrible right up when they were first discovered, that may be fine as long as you deliver a set time frame for your claimed discovery as well as a source. As long as we haven't seen any of your sources, we might as well assume that the testimonies you read were written regarding eskimos which had already been introduced to white man's food and culture. Flour, tobacco, alcohol, marmelades among other things were introduced to them early on as trading goods. We know about their fondness of tobacco from arctic explorer V. Stefansson. Alcoholism is a problem in greenland nowadays, as far as I know. And all that is not considering streaks of starvation and other unfortunate mishaps which tend to occur in the arctic, freezing to death, drowning during a seal hunt or getting lost in a blizzard being the most obvious examples.

>And suffered no ill effects

Wrong. One example: Dental caries is the perfect indicator wether a civilization was living an agriculturalist life.

>20% white diet 80% eskimo diet leads to dying 10-20 years earlier than 100% white diet, and you say the white diet is the problem?

A 100% white diet would most likely also imply that the subject is living in a more densely populated commune than your average arctic seal hunting village. That would mean a good access to doctors and overall better health care. Also, blaming the onset of diseases on one part of the diet leads nowhere; the overall interdependent relations have to be taken into account. This might mean that an 80% traditional diet is more harmful than a 100% western diet. What this does not imply is wether the traditional diet or the western diet is the driving factor of disease. To measure that, you would have to compare a 100% western diet to a 100% traditional diet, which is exactly what Price did.

>there is no evidence carbs are a problem

Which carbs are you talking? As for sugar, we now know that the sugar industry financed major studies that proved sugar to be safe, even Harvard studies. While claiming sugar to be safe, the blame was put on fats instead.


5a16af  No.12211506

>>12211054

>Which is an infinitely better source than any of the sources you provided

No, it is exactly the same as zero. But I did not provide zero, try reading.

>we might as well assume that the testimonies you read were written regarding eskimos which had already been introduced to white man's food and culture.

You would assume that because you have an emotional investment in a kike fad diet. Anyone with basic reasoning ability would realize that nearly half of eskimos still exist on their traditional diet today, and still have a lower life expectancy than whites.

>We know about their fondness of tobacco from arctic explorer V. Stefansson

And yet you refuse to listen to anything else he said. Like how old they looked and how young they died. The ones he was introducing to tobacco for the first time ever.

>And all that is not considering streaks of starvation and other unfortunate mishaps which tend to occur in the arctic, freezing to death, drowning during a seal hunt or getting lost in a blizzard being the most obvious examples.

Because everyone else in the 1800s lived such safe lives right?

>Wrong. One example: Dental caries is the perfect indicator wether a civilization was living an agriculturalist life.

No it isn't. Ignoring reality won't make it go away.

>To measure that, you would have to compare a 100% western diet to a 100% traditional diet, which is exactly what Price did.

Holy fuck you are actually retarded aren't you? 80% of eskimos in remote areas consume their traditional diet, and 20% live in a village and eat a modern diet. The average lifespan of eskimos is 15 years less than whites, who all eat a modern diet. And your explanation is that eskimos are dying younger than whites because 20% of them eat the same diet as whites. And again, Price did nothing of the sort. He didn't even ask them what their diet was, he took pictures of their faces and teeth and that's it. Read the fucking book you moron.

>Which carbs are you talking?

Carbs.

>As for sugar, we now know that the sugar industry financed major studies that proved sugar to be safe

And? We know that the oil industry financed major studies to find more uses for oil. They were correct. You can't look only at studies you dislike, ignoring the ones that had no connection to any "sugar industry", and then say "the evidence is overwhelming but it doesn't count because I don't want it to". You have to provide evidence that sugar is harmful. 10,000 years of eating sugar says it is fine. Every study every done says it is fine. And the only studies that show health improvement from removing sugars and/or starches do not control for PUFA. And since we have overwhelming evidence that PUFA causes all the health problems you Taubes dickgobblers blame on sugar, it is a good bet that those studies not controlling for PUFA also simply show how bad PUFA is, not sugar.

>While claiming sugar to be safe, the blame was put on fats instead.

That's a misdirection. The USDA put the blame specifically on saturated fats. They did so while pushing the health of PUFA. They did this because 90% of US agriculture is soy, corn, canola, safflower, flax, etc which are the source of these toxic oils. They used to be used industrially, but when crude oil was developed into cheaper replacement products, the toxic seed oils were given a new market by vilifying traditional safe fats and claiming seed oils were healthy. Sugar had nothing to do with it, sugar is not a USDA concern, it is imported.


b8df79  No.12211538

>>12007068

Yes goy, be a cannibal like your masters.


bf64a0  No.12211610

File: 0b62056c8a91d4e⋯.jpg (18.33 KB, 348x260, 87:65, wild and cultivated banana.jpg)

>>12211506

>No, it is exactly the same as zero. But I did not provide zero, try reading.

It is zero. Thanks for further proving me right.

>And yet you refuse to listen to anything else he said. Like how old they looked and how young they died.

Don't have his book the friendly arctic here right now. He mentioned them aging quickly in the sense that women tended to get pregnant very early as I mentioned in another post. As for fast aging, he also argued that it might be caused by the constant, very warm temperatures beneath the clothes made out of caribou fur and the harsh climate.

>Because everyone else in the 1800s lived such safe lives right?

Comparing your average city dweller who at least has acces to basic health care to an eskimo who has to struggle everyday to not be killed in a harsh environment is completely retarded and you know that very well.

>No it isn't. Ignoring reality won't make it go away.

Yes, it is.

>Holy fuck you are actually retarded aren't you? 80% of eskimos in remote areas consume their traditional diet, and 20% live in a village and eat a modern diet.

I call bullshit. No way are 80% of them living on a traditional diet. Furthermore, you just assured everyone that you are looking at the eskimo health in the 21st century, after they have been introduced to alcohol, tobacco and refined sugar. The approach of looking at interconnections between foods is important. You don't seem to grasp my point.

>10,000 years of eating sugar says it is fine. Every study every done says it is fine.

No refined sugar was ever eaten 10,000 years ago. As a matter of fact, carbohydrates were eaten in very limited amounts anyway. Wild fruit consisted mostly of fiber and was bitter. The amount matters, also the length of exposure. Not an argument.

>Sugar had nothing to do with it, sugar is not a USDA concern, it is imported.

Never did I specifically say that researchers were bribed by us-american industrials. Your point exactly? Oh, wait. There is none.

Arguing with you is absolutely pointless. Your behaviour expresses every characteristic of a jew in an argument, described by the Führer himself.


096acf  No.12211664

>>12211610

Would you happen to have PDFs of the material you're discussing? I only managed to find "Fat of the Land" by Stefansson.


096acf  No.12211722

>>12211506

>defending sugar

Come on… anybody can see for themselves, no study needed, that sugar is poison. Reading, and arguing, about diets is great and all, but the food is there, you can just try it and see what happens. Only a an extremely tiny amount of sugar sits well with me without any negative effects, and even then there's zero benefit. Sugar just tastes fun.


5a16af  No.12212639

>>12211610

>He mentioned them aging quickly in the sense that women tended to get pregnant very early

No, they tended to look old when they were 40, and die by 60.

>As for fast aging, he also argued that it might be caused by the constant,

Nobody cares about random guessing.

>Comparing your average city dweller who at least has acces to basic health care

Average city dwellers in the 1800s had shitty health care and died of all sorts of diseases. Rural people lived longer.

>I call bullshit. No way are 80% of them living on a traditional diet.

Come and see for yourself.

>Furthermore, you just assured everyone that you are looking at the eskimo health in the 21st century, after they have been introduced to alcohol, tobacco and refined sugar

No, I very clearly told you that it was true in the 1800s, 1900s and now.

>No refined sugar was ever eaten 10,000 years ago.

Refining doesn't do anything to it. No refined water was eaten 10,000 years ago, I guess water is toxic and causes all our health problems right?

>As a matter of fact, carbohydrates were eaten in very limited amounts anyway

That's a paleotard fantasy, it has no basis in reality.

>Wild fruit consisted mostly of fiber and was bitter.

No, we still eat wild fruit. Berries and most fruit is virtually unchanged. Only a few exceptions like tomatoes and watermelons have changed substantially.

>Arguing with you is absolutely pointless. Your behaviour expresses every characteristic of a jew in an argument, described by the Führer himself.

How ironic. You present no evidence, every claim you make is a lie, and when called on them you just ignore it and proceed back around and repeat one of your previous lies again.

>>12211722

>Come on… anybody can see for themselves, no study needed, that sugar is poison

Since most people don't see that, obviously you're wrong. And since every study done on the matter shows sugar is perfectly fine, you need to provide evidence if you want to claim the basic form of energy used by all life is poison.

>Only a an extremely tiny amount of sugar sits well with me without any negative effects, and even then there's zero benefit

And when you give people HFCS coke and sucrose coke for a taste test, but tell them they are the opposite of what they actually are, everyone likes the HFCS coke the best. If you tell them they are what they really are, they like the sucrose coke the best. People convince themselves of what they already believe. You are not impartial, that's why we do actual studies instead of asking retards "how do you feel?".


096acf  No.12212648

>>12212639

>Since most people don't see that

Never met or heard of anyone who feels good after consuming sugar. You're full of shit.


73c45a  No.12212695

>>12206975

Check out this >>>/fit/131548

When vegans say meat causes cancer, they're referring to a study by the (((WHO))) which concluded processed meats are carcinogens. What they don't tell you is that processed meat has nitrates/nitrites in it which become carcinogenic after being heated.

Also, this is an excellent resource for understanding vegan disinformation: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1LTwuCviK6nDdSntxHieIyRfbaBbLgWw


65ea2f  No.12212700

>>12212648

Have you ever visited the outside world with actual people instead of smelling like shit in your tel-aviv suicide cubicle?


5beb91  No.12212710

>>12206549

>Starvation lowers your metabolism

Temporarily, but there is no evidence that this is permanent amd there is plenty of evidence this bounces back. Your candle analogy is a strawman, nobody believes that.


5beb91  No.12212718

>>12207856

>We evolved to survive starving.

Better stated… we evolved under conditions of food scarcity and frequent starvation. The current "three meals a day" paradigm is trash, enjoy your obesity epidemic from permanently spiked insulin levels fag.


096acf  No.12212726

>>12212700

Right back at you, kike. The single best thing most people today can change in their diet is to stop consuming sugar.

>>12212718

>three meals a day

I eat once a day, because I eat nourishing food (meat).


5a16af  No.12212775

>>12212710

>Temporarily

Uh huh? Nobody suggested it was permanent, but the lower metabolism is caused by stress hormones, which causes lipid peroxidation and tons of cellular damage. This is the opposite of "healthy" and "healing" and "rejuvenating". It causes disease.

>Your candle analogy is a strawman, nobody believes that.

Tons of people believe that. There's people doing caloric restriction based on that exact idiocy.

>>12212726

>The single best thing most people today can change in their diet is to stop consuming sugar.

No it is absolutely not. That will do nothing. If they stop consuming PUFA rich vegetable oils, that will increase their metabolism and lower their chances of tons of degenerative diseases. This is the problem, it isn't that you need sugar, it is that you are telling people to keep eating a known toxin and instead cut out something harmless.


096acf  No.12212796

>>12212775

>you are telling people to keep eating a known toxin

I never said anything of the sort, you disingenuous cunt. I fully agree people should cut the vegetable oils too. The only thing in this thread I've encouraged the consumption of is meat.


bed9c1  No.12212858

>>12212775

>refined sugar is harmless

yes, drink your coca-cola, goyim. i'll agree that vegetable oils are pretty garbage and that hormones are a huge factor in weight loss or weight gain

lift heavy weights, don't do excessive cardio, cut out grains and refined sugar.


5a16af  No.12213016

>>12212858

Stating something is harmless is not the same as saying you need to eat it. You literally just ignored what I've explained and repeated the same wrong nonsense. Cutting out grains and refined sugar is absolutely no benefit at all. Cut out PUFA and add gelatin and coconut oil.


d2581d  No.12213094

File: 2f5949102b5e848⋯.jpg (70.55 KB, 558x614, 279:307, 664.jpg)

>>12007068

How do you like your eggs, /pol/? I like to make spinach wraps with hard boiled eggs and cottage cheese. 35 grams of protein in about 700 calories, mostly from fat. Omlettes with pico and a little bit of feta or gorgonzola are great too


509b61  No.12213171

>>12213094

That's one of the worst bangs for your buck regarding protein and calories.


f30b9d  No.12213351

File: 31227b27cfd1564⋯.jpg (67.43 KB, 600x400, 3:2, yum .jpg)

>>12213094

I scramble mine with pastured pork, potato, bell pepper, and green onion like Charlie and Rob's mom used to do. The old lady makes pancakes or buscuits from scratch with local sprouted flour, I eat them with lots of grass-fed butter; the syrup tapped and reduced from a tree in the yard. Glass of raw milk to follow.

YUM!

I usually eat while shitposting first thing in the morning.


f30b9d  No.12213353

>>12213171

>bagel

>hashbrown

>cream cheese

>ketchup


f30b9d  No.12213372

>>12213094

Now that I think of it. I maybe ate your Spagheet à la Sriracha.


062e40  No.12213415

>>12213094

>>12213094

I only feed prostitutes eggs out of bowls.


b650b7  No.12213528

>>12007068

>ctl+f "vegetable oil"

>12 results

There is no "vegetable oil".

Only seed and fruit oil.

The problem isn't with seed oil, such as canola, as much as it is with replacing the body's saturated fat sources with unsaturated fat sources. Grains and legumes contain these oils and only pose a risk in high concentrations because they rot in the body as oxygen bonds to them and then cause inflammation.


509b61  No.12213579

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12213353

I can get 150 grams of protein for 510 calories,and 5 grams of carbs.


509b61  No.12213583

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12213579

Also, enjoy whites being white.


5a16af  No.12214859

>>12213528

>The problem isn't with seed oil, such as canola

Yes it is.

>only pose a risk in high concentrations because they rot in the body as oxygen bonds to them and then cause inflammation.

Peroxidation is not rotting, and it poses a risk in all concentrations. Just more of a risk the more you eat.

>>12213579

But why would you want to eat something disgusting like that for no benefit at all?


e0105b  No.12215705

>>12007690

sodium, iodine, magnesium, d, k2, are all commonly deficient anon, folate, omega3 too.

it's the key predictor for depression, too. And obesity.

We stopped eating ocean fish products and going outside. That's the very simple simplification of it.

Nordic diet fixes this.

And hardship from solar minima ice age created the master race.

Eat like one.


000000  No.12215890

Highish marks for your breakfast but heavy deduction for eating while shitposting (and do you have to mention eat and shit in the same sentence??).


5a16af  No.12216592

>>12215705

There is no required intake of omega3s, and no such thing as omega3 deficiency. Omega3s are just another way to try to keep the toxic industrial waste product gravy train going even though people are waking up and realizing saturated fats are good and PUFAs are toxic.


d46544  No.12232115

>>12216592

Omega 3 aren't PUFAs tho. PUFA stands of poly unsaturated fats, meaning Omega 6. Omega 3 is MUFA, mono unsaturated fats. The same people who say that saturated fats aren't bad are also saying that while PUFAs are bad, MUFAs are good.


5a16af  No.12232672

>>12232115

You are a retard. Omega 3s are PUFAs. Omega 3 vs omega 6 simply means which is the first double bond from the end. Both are PUFAs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid

Also MUFAs are not good, they are just not a serious problem like PUFAs. PUFAs oxidize and break down into free radicals in a chain reaction. MUFAs only have the one weak bond so there is no chain reaction. Saturated fats are immune to lipid peroxidation in the first place and so are the healthiest.


afc9ef  No.12255906

>>12232672

>Saturated fats are immune to lipid peroxidation in the first place and so are the healthiest

Wut


cc12b1  No.12257286

>>12255906

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.


91df3f  No.12257331

>>12007242

>LOOK LIKE BODY BUILDER

>DON'T EAT MEAT

Sounds like you suck cock, that's meat.

Lmao


d71ccb  No.12257658

File: ce2d03a0d56b021⋯.png (890.78 KB, 637x1399, 637:1399, 1538683248670.png)

>>12212775

Bros I believe 5a16af is a coca cola shill. They've tried similar shit on /fit/ but their tactics are evolving, posting nuggets of sound advice in among brainlet shit like:

>>12213016

>Cutting out grains and refined sugar is absolutely no benefit at all.

Thanks a lot shill, but no thanks.

To any anons who lift, protein sparing modified fasting, low carb & intermittent fasting has allowed me to cut body fat with barely any strength loss. My first 4 weeks on it I dropped 13lbs in a month from 190 to 177, squat only dropped from 290x5 to 280x5, which went back up over 4 weeks of bulking to 300 x 5 at 187lb body weight. Now in week 2 of my second PMSF+IF+low carb cut phase, dropped to 181lbs and squat still 300 x 5.

Similar results experienced with bench, dead and OHP. NB also did fasted cardio about 3x/week during cut, ~6 mile mountain bike ride each time.


9ff911  No.12257783

>>12257658

Funny how these mouth breathing shills are trying to peddle a fucking soft drink, lmao the absolute state of shills.

Cola is so insanely acidic you can use 1.5 as a ghetto drain cleaner to unclog a fucking drain pipe overnight, it sure is great for your health and GI tract.


7b72bf  No.12257833

Only need two videos to understand why carbs and sugar are bad and fasting is good. Eat a high fat and protein diet, intermittent fast, partake in real fasts for a week every once in a blue moon. Enjoy energy, longevity and a lithe frame. Then couple that with lifting weights and become a Grecian warrior.

https://youtu.be/APZCfmgzoS0

https://youtu.be/f_4Q9Iv7_Ao


463475  No.12257871

>>12213094

Raw, mixed in a glass, at room temp.

>>12211722

>sugar just tastes fun

For some reason the old raw pork I ate today was quite sweet (and delicious, look into high meat), yet sweets and soft drinks smell like artificial poison.

It's odd how perception changes based on what you're eating every day. I tried pasta recently and trying to swallow a penne was like forcing rubber tubing down my throat. Vegetables and fruits are entirely unattractive at this point, with sole exception being lemon, sometimes.

>>12212796

Meat is life! The cure for depression!


f6554e  No.12257916

>>12257871

I know what you mean. I tried eating rice about a month ago and it was really grainy, dry, and disgusting. Same rice I used to eat like 1-2 cups per day (dry weight). Yea, no wonder I had candida.

now I eat raw milk kefir, raw liver, cooked muscle meat/heart w/ some sauted pork back fat

going to try a raw egg in my kefir that I second fermented with honey, see if it tastes like icecream


1568f7  No.12257978

>>12257871

>yet sweets and soft drinks smell like artificial poison.

Absolutely, you can smell that it's bad. I ate some chocolate muffins from the grocery store yesterday after a long while on nothing but meat, eggs, butter, and cheese, and the difference was vast. My ass still hurts from the shit I took after eating those muffins. I have chest pain, I'm bloated, I can't breathe out both nostrils, and my teeth hurt. I felt great before this little detour. My shits were small and easy, I had no aches.

Once you get on the right diet it's really obvious what's good for you, and you don't need to trust any fucking authority. Just try the diet. This is why I don't argue with people about the (((science))). Do the science yourself.


5478ac  No.12258725

>>12213094

Boiled, with a slice of whole wheat toast, Bulk season though, so I'm ingesting like 9 eggs a day.


5a16af  No.12260540

>>12255906

>I'm a fucking retard that can't read.

Try suicide. This isn't rocket science. Fats are oxidized at the double carbon bonds. This is called lipid peroxidation, and it releases free radicals which damage your cells, which causes stress hormones to be released, which causes "type 2 diabetes", osteoporosis, lower thyroid function and hence obesity, alzheimers, etc. Saturated fats are called saturated fats because they have no double carbon bonds, they are entirely saturated with hydrogens. So lipid peroxidation does not occur. This is why you should eat saturated fat. Polyunsaturated fats have multiple double carbon bonds, causing a chain reaction of lipid peroxidation releasing tons of free radicals. This is why you should avoid consumption of PUFA. Vegetable oil consumption tracks directly with the rise in obesity, "type 2 diabetes" and osteoporosis. Neither sugar consumption, starch consumption, or total carb consumption correlates at all. Carb consumption has decreased while "diabetes" rates grew. The sugar/carb red herring is deliberate, created to distract from the real problem: vegetable oil. It is exactly the same as the old lie they used that saturated fat was evil. As people stopped believing that lie, they have had to introduce a new lie.

>>12257658

>facts hurt my feelings so anyone who posts facts is a shill!

>my anecdote is evidence

Sweet logic Schlomo. You know you could wear purple socks and lose 13 pounds too right? So that means wearing purple socks is the only way to lose weight! And anyone saying that the color of your socks doesn't matter is an evil white sock shill!

>>12257783

That's the stupidest non-argument ever. Orange juice is more acidic than any soda on the market. Both are less acidic than your stomach already is. Your stomach is full of hydrochloric acid, juice does not hurt it.


344f1f  No.12260596

>>12156109

Vitamin C, E, B6 and B12, D3 and K2. You can find organic non-GMO certified dried mix drinks with all these vitamins in them. Just be careful of merchants looking to rip you off. Get the best quality stuff you can afford though.


344f1f  No.12260603

>>12213094

I like my eggs with spinach, onions and garlic all mixed up and scrambled. I then put one raw egg on top each time, mix it into the hot cooked egg. This increases the amount of nutrients and vitamins because scrambled eggs get depleted of nutrients/vitamins as they cook.


d778cb  No.12260979

>>12260540

>my anecdote is evidence

lol, my experience was a 4 week experiment which anyone can try. HFCS sucking DYEL soyboys like you might not like to give up your sugar addiction for that long though


5a16af  No.12261656

>>12260596

There is absolutely no reason to take C, B6 or B12. Vitamin C is abundant in tons of things, and you should be getting 5 or more times your intake of B6 and B12 from meat already.

>>12260979

>n = 1

>no control group

>didn't control for PUFA (or anything else)

Yeah, that's why it isn't an experiment retard. Just like anyone can try cutting out carbs and PUFA at the same time, they can also try cutting out PUFA without cutting carbs and see they get all of the same benefits your (((keto))) salesmen are offering, while eating like a human instead of an ice nigger.


000000  No.12262065

>>12257916

>eating 2 cups of dry rice a day

Holy crap that's a lot of rice.


0dd689  No.12263792

>>12261656

I didn't say anything about keto you dumb DYEL faggot.


d28458  No.12263855

>>12007068

If you're trying to get away from sugar, Organic Stevia Leaf Extract. I dropped 25lbs within 10 days after using it in my coffee and tea. There's also carbonated beverages that contain it instead of corn syrup, sugar, aspartame, ect.


1568f7  No.12264008

>>12263855

>(((Stevia Leaf Extract)))

https://archive.fo/TboXA

<Warning: Stevia Shown to Affect Hormones and Blood Sugar

https://archive.fo/dra2K

<my family suffers from the hypoglycemic effect with headaches, muscle cramps and fatigue.

>I dropped 25lbs within 10 days

'Cause you're fucking with your hormones. I used to drink stevia soda, and 2 within 24 hours would give me headaches. It's crap.


2538b7  No.12264013

Thoughts on the idea of Group IF for work places or churches where everyone can prep together for their one meal a day?


1568f7  No.12264020

>>12264013

A steak doesn't need any prep.


a75d11  No.12264059

>>12263855

Wtf

R u one of them american hamplanets?

Just do without sweetnes ffs

Weak ass mfrs


7283de  No.12264423

>>12115422

>You don't have to believe anyone. Try different diets for 2-3 weeks, see how you feel, take notes and then decide if it's the diet for you.

Probably the most important part of advice in this thread.

Even assuming everyone ITT is in fact white, people will have different combinations of genes from neolithic farmers, W/E Hunter gatherers, and others of the indigenous peoples of europe and the Mediterranean who shockingly had very different ancestral diets. (just check the genetics thread to see how diverse europeans really are).

More hunter gatherer dna? you should probably eat more meat. More neolithic farmer dna? Whole wheat is for you. You get the picture.

However, the only way to really determine what works best for you as an individual is to TRY DIFFERENT THINGS. Also, this can change depending on the season, your current state of health, and lifestyle– there will never be an all-time all-place all-person diet that always works.

In choosing what to eat though, there are some general rules to keep in mind:

-If it didn't exist more than 200 years ago, your ancestors obviously didn't eat it. Do not consume

- If it was not grown or killed, it isn't food. Do not consume (aka "Food comes from farms, not factories)

- If it can't go bad (e.g. twinkies, cheez itz, etc.), it's not food. Do not consume (big exception is fermented foods and dried stored grain)

- If it has an ingredients list, it was made in a factory. Do not purchase or consume

Also note that the quality of food is separate from the food itself. Fat from high quality, grass fed, organic beef is good. Fat from commercial cows is bad (particularly because many of the poisons (((they))) feed livestock are fat soluble. See rule 1– did they have hormones and pesticides more than 200 years ago? No? Do not consume.

Other than that, you will just have to experiment. If you are overweight, keto is a good place to start. Also, your ancestors did NOT eat 3 meals everyday consistently from birth til death. Try fasting either intermittently (eating all your daily calories within an 8 hour window) or periodically, e.g. consume only water one day per month. Also I'd recommend throwing in as many probiotic rich foods as possible (homemade yogurt, kefir, saurkraut, pickles, kombucha, etc.)

Don't underestimate how important a proper diet is in relation to disease, lethargy, depression, mental health, energy, skin condition, etc. It's worth the time and money it takes to figure this shit out.


7283de  No.12264448

>>12257871

Pasta is a fake news food. The first literary reference to it is in 1154. No Roman or Greek sources mention pasta as a food source. Since it's made using unfermented/unleavened wheat flour, even made with high quality wheat it is not as healthy or bioavailable as bread and therefore causes inflammation. I'm italian but I stay away from pasta entirely, and I agree it doesn't even taste that great.


df53d7  No.12264548

>>12264423

Good advice in general,

>- If it has an ingredients list, it was made in a factory. Do not purchase or consume

This is really key, one of the jewiest things about modern food is how food companies market so much terrible shit as healthy options, counting on health-conscious but clueless normies to fall for their (((marketing))).

E.g. how often do you see normies snacking on low fat yogurt, granola bars, eating whole wheat bread sandwiches, drinking fruit juice? All this shit is fucking poison, but ostensibly healthy according to mainstream standards. Maybe the worst offender is Clif Bars, whose organic ingredients give a superficial association with health, despite being packed with enough sugar and other carbs that you might as well have just eaten a bag of doritos.

Then the fat normie wonders why he or she can't slim down and blames muh genetics, or even worse starts HAESposting


7283de  No.12264636

>>12264548

Exaclty, what especially pisses me off is "health conscious" people getting normies hyped up on "bone broth protein powder" or other stupid snake oil shit, even under the guise of "paleo" or other forms of traditional eating. It's all unnatural poison, I don't care how many times it says organic on the bottle.

Part of the problem is that people don't appreciate nuance. They see "organic" and they assume that's good, yet organic ice cream still has tons of unhealthy sugar. There are so many axes on the healthy spectrum that it's hard for a normal person to understand.

Another thing when encountering diet advice: follow the money. If someone is telling you that their products are healthy, it's probably BS.

The saddest part about all of this is that it sows confusion and dissent amongst the people who have otherwise good intentions about health. But then they spend all this money, don't see results, and start blaming the concept and not the individuals.

You'll notice that this is one of the most common Jewish tricks. If A is a problem, simplify it so there is only one "apparent" solution: B, which is slightly better than A. People choose B, but it's a false dichotomy: looking into the nuance of A will reveal a third solution, C, that was completely overlooked.

A good example is the rise of the police state. In a city, there is crime (A). Ignore who commits the crime, and solve the crime by putting a cop on any corner and violating civil liberties (B), which is clearly better than a city full of violence. But in so doing, we missed out on just removing element that was causing the problem in the first place (niggers), which, if removed, would have solved the initial problem more optimally than B.

With dieting, let's commercial beef is bad (A). Organic beef is obviously better (B). Sure B>A, but you missed out on the fact that commercial beef is bad because its unorganic AND grain fed. Choosing B ignores C, which is preferring locally raised grass fed beef.

I hope this makes sense to someone else and not just in my head.


1568f7  No.12264932

>>12264636

Agreed on almost everything, great post, like preceding posts in this chain; but…

>commercial beef is bad

Not only is there no evidence of commercial beef having negative individual physical health impacts (indeed my health improved dramatically when I began eating nothing but meat from the supermarket), I've eaten both commercial and local grassfed beef for extended periods and experienced absolutely no difference on either source, except that grass fed beef occasionally tastes like a vegetable I would've refused to eat as a kid.

I still stick with local for a multitude of reasons, but the personal immediate benefits over commercial are non-existent

I will say I'm not willing to eat raw liver, or other organs, from a commercial source. Not eaven gonna test that.


000000  No.12265036

>>12264932

It's easy to obtain grass fed beef at the supermarket, even Wal-Mart has grass fed organic beef these days.

One issue is that it's rarely graded so certain sneaky Jewish ranchers can put old cows in the mix and you get a tough steak every now and again.


1568f7  No.12265059

>>12265036

I don't buy from the supermarket, I know a butcher.


000000  No.12265078

>>12265059

That's great but if you didn't you could still get by just fine at the supermarket.


1568f7  No.12265113

>>12265078

I still wouldn't eat that stuff raw.


8d3a80  No.12265128

Would be easier if the stupid tech companies would quit monkey fucking the service I already paid for.


000000  No.12265165

>>12265128

>the (1) bot is deployed into the thread


d7bb97  No.12266336

>>12208788 sieg heil

>Chickens come from the jungles of south asia, that doesn't mean chicken is bad for white people.

beef is a superior animal than chicken for white consumption tbh

and motherfucking ice age megafauna would be the shit

whooly rhinos and mastadonts bb, that would make some strong aryan men


398284  No.12266949

>>12264636

Quality post m8, I get you.

>Another thing when encountering diet advice: follow the money.

It's amazing how applicable this advice is in general. Follow the money, if not, follow the sound of vigorous hand rubbing.

>false dichotomy

Just like in politics. GOPe are slightly better than democrats so better vote for 'em goyim! Ignore that both want to send Americans to die for ZOG, infect the country with POZ and diversity, and exercise absolute control over the currency. When the problem in the first place is jewish control over politicians.

I think this tactic is referred to as the "Kosher Sandwich".

>>12264932

>Not only is there no evidence of commercial beef having negative individual physical health impacts

Yeah I eat commercial beef too, wish I didn't have to. If I become a richfag I'll transition to grass fed. My local Sprouts often has sales on grass fed which I buy in bulk and freeze.

>>12264548

>This is really key, one of the jewiest things about modern food is how food companies market so much terrible shit as healthy options, counting on health-conscious but clueless normies to fall for their (((marketing))).

Following up on my previous post, I was just in the cereal aisle of a local supermarket, and had a look at the sugary breakfast cereals. These fucking (((companies))) are now trying to pass off LUCKY CHARMS as healthy. They have prominently displayed on the packet, "GLUTEN FREE" and "WHOLE GRAIN". They have no shame. Why should they though, normies keep buying this shit by the ton.


000000  No.12266980

>>12266949

>grass-fed

>for richfagz

Only because you live near whole judes and sprouts. Grass-fed is only valuble when the animal is also pastured in the sun. It costs more to raise "grain-fed" because the corn and soy industries are subsidized. Find a local farmer (not near the bay area) and buy a half-cow or something. It will be much cheaper.

>whole grain

More accurate than "whole wheat". At least whole-grain means something.


000000  No.12266988

>>12214859

Oxydization is the very definition of rotting.


bde3fa  No.12267201

All of the people I have seen go Keto end up become slow minded.

Dull.

Check out Sv3rige on youtube to see what I mean.

His brain is so slow - non genetic - as a result of his diet that you can literally see the gears turning when he thinks.

The brain runs on glucose.

It needs glucose sources to be at an optimal level.

Keto is a kneejerk reaction to wheat and sugar being suboptimal.

And Keto is also a kneejerk reaction to veganism.

Don't fall for extremes.

Find the balance. Eat foods that are healthy and don't exclude entire nutrient categories just because of >muh carbs


5a16af  No.12268556

>>12266988

No it is not. To decay by the action of bacteria or fungi is the definition of rotting. Fatty acids oxidizing does not involve bacteria or fungi, nor does it cause them to decay. It simply makes them toxic.


000000  No.12269003

>>12268556

>the definition of rotting

>to decay by the action of bacteria or fungi

Not exactly, though, since 'rot' simply means "decay" or "break apart".

I mean through inertia.

Through the constant "break down" of matter as oxygen bonds to it.

It seems that I am misusing it, though.


59df88  No.12269027

>>12151841

You're obligated to admit that your argument is shit and that >>12205424 wins. As I am bulking up to God tier status I cannot imagine a better supplemental drink than that which is designed to build 1500 pounds of mammal muscle and bone ASAP. Crie about hormones, lactose, and other details as you will, but recognize that dense nutrition calibrated for mammals is probably better for growth than raw meat and water.

Maybe you're just pleb tier lactose intolerant. Oh well.


236a84  No.12269056

>>12269027

>lactase

a gods gift to adult man


236a84  No.12269059


a37ee3  No.12270230

all these people talking about "what our ancestors ate", and what the kikes are pushing. when they obviously no nothing about.

what is the most important dietary law of the kikes? anyone.

no BLOOD.

Pastoral nomads (livestock herders) which is what the original Aryans were got most of their nutrition from a mixture of blood and milk, never killing the animals but only eating the ones that died.


c58689  No.12276370

>>12007690

Sodium is good.

It is alkali earth metal that's good for brain functions as are others like potassium.

Neurons electron firing etc. Your brain produces electricity and these elements act as the bio-battery.

People who have low sodium diet are either brainlets or have very optimal good brain.

The media portrays "sugar" as the brain food for geniuses when its just a hoax developed by such companies. Remember the "L" meme? People fell for it and got diabetes lol.

Also Keto is good. Plant fat > Bovine hormone fat.

I bet they made it possible for male cows to produce milk and these have cancerous hormones.

Either you fetch milk from a Local Farm cow or use Almond/Coconut milk.

Coffee drip-style acts as filter for bad compounds/elements in the water. Its Carbon so it works pretty well with detoxifying both the water and you.

This is why countries with higher Coffee consumption have better economy/per capita income and IQ. Fluoride cucklets have a crashing economy.

Instant coffee is shit and those with fake milk powder contain animal fat from beaver stem cell petri dish (lmao).

Though beware of pre-ground coffee sold in the supermarkets since they contain a lot of roasted soy bean and traces of sugar and taste like shit.


c58689  No.12276387

>>12267201

He probably got a bovine spongiform brain infection.

That is why keto should be plant/vegetable oil not a fucking New World Order male cow injected with feminizing hormones while fed with Cow cadaver causing BSE and a fucking GM Corn with the genes of a fossilized squid.


5a16af  No.12277161

>>12276387

>>12276370

Vegetable oil is toxic. It is not fit for human consumption. Only someone retarded enough to think they get milk from male cattle would advocate eating that shit.


660153  No.12277323

>>12267201

>find balance

I did. It's called listening to my body, and my body never needs the jew garbage you say I should eat.


5a16af  No.12279706

>>12277323

>jews made fruit!

>every European for thousands of years was actually a jew you goys!

>stop eating evil fruit and stick with hebrew brand kosher soy kibble!


e8f359  No.12300111

>>12279706

Fruit is yummy.


000000  No.12335562

>>12195889

>>12198135

>>12198451

The sugars in the beer increase the absorption rate of the drink from the gut into the blood stream. This helps hydrate you faster and more effectively.

How does the sugar help the absorption rate of water?

Under "normal conditions", when you drink water, the fluid enters the body through the wall of the intestines by osmosis; moving from an area of lower solute concentration in the gut to an area of higher concentration in the blood. There, it replaces the fluid lost from the blood plasma in sweat (amongst other things).

However, doing high-intensity sport and sweating heavily does not really constitute "normal conditions". Therefore, to increase the delivery rate of fluid into the body, a dual carriageway is required.

This is where the sugar, along with plenty of sodium, in a deliciously hydrating drink comes in. Together, they get the fast lane (a mechanism that’s actually called sodium-glucose co-transport) open for traffic by actively pulling those two solutes through a totally different channel in the gut, dragging more water through with them at the same time.

This process dramatically increases the amount of water that can be taken across the gut wall per unit of time. It basically turbo charges your ability to hydrate when it matters most. Thus,

BEER IS FOR WHEN YOU ARE THIRSTY

The discovery that sodium transport and glucose transport are coupled in the small intestine, so that glucose accelerates absorption of solute and water, was potentially the most important medical advance this century.


a39a29  No.12338520

>>12008752

>This shit is harder to find than crack cocaine.

The vanisingly small "If cow eats bad grass, then poisoning [of preggers]." scenario? Nigh exclusively a problem for ethnicities with little to no animal husbandry/dairy cultivation. Niggers.

>>12010641

<b-but h-he didn't specify he meant fructose

Imagine being paid to shill a health thread on a mongolian basketweaving forum.

>>12019724

>An adult generally can get by if they stay under 20g carbs per day,

The carb levels floated ITT above 30g are wildly excessive if not a high performance athlete. Sedentaries could do with going closer to 15g ideally.

>>12054208

<not cold-pressed coconut oil

<saturated fat iz bad mkay

<(((harvaraad)))

>>12058773

<There's no point to be on keto if you're healthy

Unless you're cycling heroic levels of C60, that oxidative damage is shortening your telomeres at a significantly faster rate.


d7bb97  No.12338742

>>12264448

>I'm italian but I stay away from pasta entirely

wow

how does your mother cope?


d7bb97  No.12338749

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12335562

>BEER IS FOR WHEN YOU ARE THIRSTY

are you british?


c8efc3  No.12338839

>>12007068

>eat fiber

This is embarrassing to post about, but I'm doing for the sake of other anons. I aim for 35-40 grams of fiber per day. I try to incorporate it into every meal. Suffering from hemorrhoids, constipation and near bowel impaction forced me to re-evaluate my diet. Caused by a combination of sedentary lifestyle, processed foods and not making rational diet choices. I'd be fine for months then dehydration or something I ate would play havoc with my system and it would feel like I was trying to push hockey balls out my ass. Even when I tried to get fit, heavy compound lifts would sometimes cause a flare up and make it uncomfortable or painful to shit.

More rational eating behavior, drinking plenty of water and regular exercise works wonders. Turned 30 minute struggle sessions on the can into 2-5 minutes. Eating a bit of fiber with every meal, drinking plenty of water and minimizing highly processed foods like white bread changed my life. I can laugh about it now, but I spent years clueless and to embarrassed to get help. No way in hell I was going to let some doctor probe my ass. So thanks to the anons that post nutrition and lifestyle info on boards. Improved my quality of life beyond measure.


e0994f  No.12343773

File: 8e5e166472a455b⋯.jpg (30.01 KB, 550x543, 550:543, aAxAvYg_700b.jpg)

>eat diverse

>falling for the keto meme

Pick one and only one. Fucking brainlets


5a16af  No.12348201

>>12338520

>b-but h-he didn't specify he meant fructose

I implied nothing of the sort. Apples are not poison you smelly kike.


95c57c  No.12351564

File: b360bcf9aad37a1⋯.png (4.75 MB, 2121x1414, 3:2, Rare Meat.png)

Eating a healthy diet isn't hard. It's just hard finding wholesome foods at a decent price especially in the city. I've been eating mostly meats since i moved to NC for almost 5 years now and have no problem with it (health wise). I've also lost a lot of weight by only scything grass and normal farm shit, with some lifting here and there and some minor construction work.

Easiest things stop eating/drinking is Soda and foods deep-fried in hydrogenated oils. Eventually drop processed carbs. Fruit juice is also no good (its basically liquid fructose, sugar) unless you use a juicer machine, then you get some of that fiber with it.

Duck, Chicken, Rabbit, Eggs, Beef, Raw Milk, Butter, and a few Avocados are 95% of my diet. All i grow myself exception of Cows which i get from a friend across town along with raw milk, her cattle are grass fed. Everything is else is grown off my land, no soy needed. Venison isn't a staple, but i eat it if i hunt it.

I have a small scale farm, if any anon's need some insight or knowledge i can drop what i have, though i'm not a born and raised farmer. Also some of the anti meat people ITT are somewhat right about soy/corn factory farmed meat.


f7f6f5  No.12351579

>>12351564

Can you layout the cost of farm animals?


95c57c  No.12351777

>>12351579

I don't keep anything except rabbits and laying chickens during colder months (Nov, Dec, Jan). Although you could. I keep everything under 3/4 of a acre, also my space usage is not very efficient.

30 Pekin ducks per flock, 4 flocks per year. Pekin's take about 8 weeks before i can process them. $4 per duckling, $120 per flock, $480 annually. I always ask for a few Drake ducklings as they can help with herding.

30 Leghorn chickens per flock, 2 flocks per year. Leghorns take about 18 months before processing. $3 per chick, $90 per flock, $180 annually. No rooster cause they are very noisy and territorial.

5 Rhode Island Red's, $3 per chick. I keep these year around for fresh eggs, however they will slow down laying after 4 years and stop a few years later. To keep laying in the winter they do require a heated coop with timed lighting.

As for the rabbits all you need is a Buck (male) and a few or more Doe's (females). I got my buck and 3 doe's for $200. They do require management but not micromanagement. I keep mine in a small heated barn with the layer chickens. During the warmer temps they're allowed out in a small pen for a few hours a day. But you do need to keep the males and females separate.

I don't buy much feed as i can grow some corn. The chickens and ducks both have assess to hay fields (Alfalfa and Brome mix), it's all fenced so they never mix or escape and they're essentially free ranged. Once a week i give the ducks and chickens sprouted beans. I personally don't have any debt and i also have some rental income from across state property that i let my parents manage (nothing fancy), so i don't have to worry much budgeting. You can probably subsidize the cost of all the animals and feed by just selling some of the excess eggs, meat and vegetables which you can grow with the "fertilizer" + hay.


d8d73e  No.12351886

>>12351777

>Farmer trips

Checked. Are you planning to get a cow anon? How do you store all that meat? Why so much duck? Any qt farmers around? Asking for a friend.


2dbcc7  No.12351909

File: 68194c5f6235e5f⋯.jpg (42.42 KB, 528x403, 528:403, Mike-Cernovich-picture-chi….jpg)

Eat Keto and make yourself foul smelling with the rot in your intestines, Don't forget the testosterone supplement along with your blueberries or you will look like the typical paleo foktard.


2dbcc7  No.12351913

>>12351777

>i also have some rental income

Parasite on humans as well as an animal abuser.


6d9188  No.12351917

>>12351913

Mad kike.


2dbcc7  No.12351920

>>12264448

Pasta is awesome you faggot.


2dbcc7  No.12351925

>>12351917

Parasite says what?


6d9188  No.12351933

>>12351925

Mad kike.


95c57c  No.12351996

>>12351886

No, i don't think i have the land for a cow. I store it in a freezer, foil wrapped or stainless steel containers. Trying to cut back on plastics. Ducks because they grow fast and are a bit fatty which i like to balance with leaner chicken and rabbit cuts.

>>12351913

I didn't want to go to collage since i was unmotivated. I used the money to down pay for a house, tied in the renovation cost to the mortgage then rented it (2 family home). I learned construction and stuff about housing from my dad so it was pretty easy knowledge. The tenants rent cover the mortgage, utilities, and insurance alone with some profits. It's really all about the location though. I'm also very fair to my tenants in terms of rent.

As for my animals i take care of them, make sure they're always well fed, make sure they're always warm and comfortable with spacious environment to roam and forage. I also never let the live ones see me kill/butcher another.

I don't see what makes you so upset. Real-estate or being a excessively emotionally invested vegan? :^)

I forgot to add to my post >>12351564 that i do weekend water fasts and sometimes a unintentional 1 day fasts during the week. I usually eat whenever i feel hungry.


95c57c  No.12352001

>>12351886

And yes there are some qt 3.14 farm girls around here.


f28b5d  No.12358420

File: 81fa10371be03b7⋯.jpg (44.43 KB, 700x466, 350:233, IMG_0343.JPG)

>tfw snowniggers, niggers and mongoloids cannot comprehend why the mediterranean man outclassed them all

reminder that Caesar and Jesus ate it, not to mention Socrates an Tutankhamun

>inb4 not white

stay mad plebeians


f28b5d  No.12358447

File: 31be10fa7f0191e⋯.jpg (32.15 KB, 570x340, 57:34, IMG_0344.JPG)

>>12358420

>Jeanne Calment reportedly ascribed her longevity and relatively youthful appearance for her age to a diet rich in olive oil.


a492ab  No.12358457

>>12007242

Mudshits learned how to taqqiya from vegans


a492ab  No.12358477

>>12358465

Do you deepthroat carrots and cucumbers because you're too ugly for the other faggots to touch you, or because you watch nigger porn all day? You fat wetback mom says both.


7da461  No.12373973

>>12351564

>Eating a healthy diet isn't hard

Yes it is, you have to grow your own meat. Most of the country has nowhere to buy safe meat.

>Fruit juice is also no good (its basically liquid fructose, sugar)

It is perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with fructose. We've eaten tons of it for hundreds of years, with no problems. All the modern health problems developed starting in the decade after the introduction of corn oil. The sugar myth is precisely to confuse people from the real issue: "vegetable oil".

>>12351777

Why are you keeping leghorns for meat? That makes absolutely no sense. Leghorns are a scrawny egg laying breed. Also I really hope you meant 18 weeks, if you are keeping them for 18 months you are doing something really wrong. Swap out the reds with plymouths or chanteclers and use them as your meat and egg source and ditch the leghorns plus you don't have to buy chicks any more. Stop feeding corn to your meat, you increase the omega 6 PUFA in their fat, making it bad for you.


95c57c  No.12399104

>>12373973

>It is perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with fructose.

After all the fiber is stripped away its pretty much just sugar water with some nutrients. Since fructose can only be processed in the liver it can do damage. I don't think some fruit juice everyday would kill you but paired with crappy diet it's bad,

> real issue: "vegetable oil".

I can agree with this. That shit's everywhere and being peddled as "heart healthy".

>Why are you keeping leghorns for meat?

Neighbor has a few, i asked, he recommends for meat. I've been considering Freedom rangers or Chanteclers for awhile.

>Stop feeding corn to your meat, you increase the omega 6 PUFA in their fat, making it bad for you.

I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing, i will do some more research into that. I've been experimenting with growing and sprouting oats for them once a week so i did plan on cutting the corn feed.


95c57c  No.12399137

>>12373973

Yes i did mean 18 weeks. Forgot to add that.


d84124  No.12399196

File: bb27b45ac5cd692⋯.jpg (70.82 KB, 852x480, 71:40, shagy.jpg)

i am in no way related to the person that made this.

I have bought the pdf, used it and have had extraordinary effects, my friends tell me how healthy and glowing i look.

Please take a look anons, use your better judgement also.

https://growyouthful.com/index.php


f465de  No.