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File: 3cd92e80182b075⋯.jpg (260.37 KB, 660x531, 220:177, joan_watching.jpg)

File: 7b36bdc79718c36⋯.png (100.67 KB, 851x324, 851:324, joan1.png)

File: 3975702d521985e⋯.jpg (630.81 KB, 1714x1070, 857:535, joan2.jpg)

6056b1  No.12116016

Thread #1

https://archive.fo/gs7M7

>member of The Council on Foreign Relations

>funded by George Soros

>actively looking for ways to shut down the chans and "quarantine" anons

>using GUID hexadecimals to track anons through their posts

>attempting to track the DNA of "white supremacists"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucysjLIFWIk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqM-Z8RRjaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3jFMzZCcA

tldr; Joan Donovan is a fat cunt that's trying to track anon's with shill tracking images. The majority of these images are shitty OC, but decent enough to bait anon's to download them. do not download these files and/or repost them.

6056b1  No.12116023

File: 37cc749c80d688b⋯.png (10.49 KB, 171x255, 57:85, c39c364507f16660afc0c21e7c….png)

shill detector



// ==UserScript==
// @name 8ch - joan_guid_detector
// @namespace
// @version 0.3
// @description
// @author local
// @icon
// @include https:/%2F8ch.net/*/res/*
// ==/UserScript==

var re = new RegExp("^[a-f,A-F,0-9]{8}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{12}[.](.{3}|.{4})$");

function checktags(tags) {
var tag;
var title;
var parent;
var shilltext;

for (var i = 0; i<tags.length; i++) {
tag=tags[i];
if (tag.nodeName=="A") {
title=tag.getAttribute("title");

if (re.test(title)) {
parent=tag.closest(".files").parentElement;
//highlight the post
//parent.style.backgroundColor = "red";
// add text
parent=tag.closest(".fileinfo");
shilltext = document.createElement("p");

//set default formatting
shilltext.style.color="#f00";
shilltext.style.fontWeight = 'bold';
shilltext.style.textAlign = 'center';
shilltext.style.backgroundColor = "#ff0";

//1. PICK A THEME YOU WANT TO USE.
//2. REMOVE THE "/*" LINE BEFORE, AND THE "*/" LINE AFTER THE THEME YOU PICKED TO ENABLE IT.
//3. NOTE: YOU SHOULD ONLY PICK ONE THEME (LATER SET VALUES WILL OVERWRITE EARLIER ONES IF YOU DON'T).

/*
//warning stripe standard
shilltext.innerHTML="&#9699;&#9701;&#9699;&#9701;SHILL GUID!&#9700;&#9698;&#9700;&#9698;";
*/

/*
//hazchem minimal
shilltext.innerHTML="&#9888; SHILL GUID! &#9888;";
shilltext.style.fontSize= '175%';
*/

/*
//ebola-chan says consider the following
shilltext.innerHTML="&#9763; INFECTED GUID! &#9763;";
shilltext.style.fontWeight = '900';
shilltext.style.fontSize= '175%';
*/

/*
//terry says these niggers glow
shilltext.innerHTML="&#9760; GLOWING GUID! &#9760;";
shilltext.style.color="#0f0";
shilltext.style.backgroundColor = "#111";
shilltext.style.fontSize= '175%';
*/

/*
//phreaking pharisee
shilltext.innerHTML="&#10017; GUIDEN!";
shilltext.style.color="#ff0";
shilltext.style.fontWeight = '900';
shilltext.style.fontSize= '175%';
shilltext.style.backgroundColor = "#111";
*/

parent.prepend(shilltext);
}
}
}
}

// Options for the observer (which mutations to observe)
var targetNode=document.body;
var config = { attributes: false, childList: true, subtree: true };

// Callback function to execute when mutations are observed
var callback = function(mutationsList) {
for(var mutation of mutationsList) {
if (mutation.type == 'childList') {
checktags(mutation.addedNodes);
}
}
};

// Create an observer instance linked to the callback function
var observer = new MutationObserver(callback);
// Start observing the target node for configured mutations
observer.observe(targetNode, config);

//check on initial page load
var tags=document.getElementsByTagName("a");
checktags(tags)


6056b1  No.12116027

File: eca754ebf546a96⋯.png (959.74 KB, 1510x2253, 1510:2253, c39c364507f16660afc0c21e7c….png)


f913a4  No.12116032

you are all being played with this shit.


6056b1  No.12116034

script to download all shill guid images on /pol/ for analysis

https://ghostbin.com/paste/o4sop


997dfa  No.12116037

Reposting script used to rename GUID/UUID filenames into short filenames that maximize the chance of collision with another Anon's uploaded files


import sys
import os
import os.path
from uuid import UUID

try:
bdir = sys.argv[1]
except IndexError:
bdir = input('what is the full path to the directory containing the files you wish to rename?')

if not os.path.isdir(bdir):
input(f'{bdir} is not a valid directory path. Please try again.')
sys.exit(1)

f_idx = 0
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(bdir):
for f in files:
fname, ext = os.path.splitext(f)
try:
uid = UUID(fname)
except ValueError:
continue # not a UUID
src = os.path.join(root, f)
while True:
dst = os.path.join(root, hex(f_idx)[2:] + ext)
if not os.path.isfile(dst):
break
else:
f_idx += 1
print(src, dst)
f_idx += 1


6056b1  No.12116051

File: 0c8ed3a7fc1e8b6⋯.png (89.29 KB, 683x890, 683:890, cf991ee1b9f54a78dcb072c668….png)

md5 hash collision generator for fucking with data

(source)

https://github.com/cr-marcstevens/hashclash

(binary download)

https://github.com/cr-marcstevens/hashclash-old-svn-repo/tree/master/downloads

(limited info)

https://marc-stevens.nl/p/hashclash/

https://natmchugh.blogspot.com/2014/10/how-i-created-two-images-with-same-md5.html


a222f8  No.12116055

File: 899062eb6587b60⋯.gif (304.38 KB, 700x704, 175:176, beb8ccd73ade1e3d651485d9c3….gif)

>>12116016

I know for a fact the hexadecimal image filenames have nothing to do with this Joan beast, because I've been seeing them on cuckchan since at least January of this year.

>February 17:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/160891249/#160891845

>February 26:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/161967235/#161985535

>February 20:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/161244061/#161248132

People have been calling these filenames out as "iPhone filenames" since at least February:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/161244061/#161248273

Let me give you some more reasons why your brainlet theory is fucking retarded

>using GUID hexadecimals to track anons through their posts

How? The only possible way that could be done is if anons saved the image with the same filename as it was posted, and that rarely happens. On cuckchan there is no built-in way to do this, you automatically download the file with the auto-generated image number. On 8ch you have to right click the hyperlink to the image that features the original filename (on the right, above the image).

This is therefore an extremely inefficient way to track the spread of a posted image across the chans/the Internet in general. There are two much easier ways they could do this:

>Record the automatically generated filename of the image after it's posted

and/or

>Save the md5 hash of the images they post

Both of these methods would be far more effective at tracking the spread of an image (and this is in fact what intelligence agencies already do to track the activity of anonymous image board users – yes, your meticulously named memes are in fact an attack vector that de-anonymizes you).

If we want to have a serious discussion about opsec and image filenames and hashes, by all means we should do so (in fact I've been thinking about posting a thread about this security risk for some months now to inform anons of the opsec security vulnerability mentioned above and propose some potential solutions). This thread and this entire "Joan is using GUIDs to track anons through the filenames" shit is boomer-tech brainlet nonsense.

It may not even be iOS itself, it may be a certain browser that runs on iOS, or even one of the many 4chan mobile apps (I know at least one of works or used to work with 8ch as well, I've seen anons posting about that before). It may have something to do with the iCloud, as you say, which has been a theory several anons have given.

By all means investigate. Why don't you take a trip to your local Apple store and do some shitposting on one of the demo devices? Keep in mind that it's likely iOS version specific (either an OS feature or the software that's responsible is for a recent OS version), though it does seem that it began this year so it's a recent or current version.

The most disappointing and embarrassing aspect of this entire thing is that absolutely no one has come up with a viable working theory for what these alleged GUIDs would be used for. As explained above, they could not be meaningfully used for tracking the activity of anons (the bullshit theory that panicked anons and caused this entire thing to get so out of hand in the first place).

Come up with a better theory.


997dfa  No.12116058

File: adebaa7909e82f1⋯.png (247.69 KB, 1594x1102, 797:551, Screen Shot 2018-09-06 at ….png)


6056b1  No.12116063

>>12116055

nice copypasta joan


a222f8  No.12116065

File: 2c8065369653af4⋯.gif (991.86 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 2c8065369653af40e2aea88b77….gif)

File: 914593ebfe712a8⋯.jpg (127.2 KB, 575x767, 575:767, 1536273317947.jpg)

File: 07fee1d087a8131⋯.png (373.61 KB, 2850x511, 2850:511, guid_0.png)

>>12116016

>We speculate that hostile entities are utilizing UUID/GUIDs for tracking the dissemination of memes.

And how exactly are they tracking the dissemination of memes with these GUID filenames? Walk us through how that works, step by step.

Here's a recent post on cuckchan with a GUID image:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/184800274#p184810277

In what way is this a shill post? In what way is the dissemination of the meme tracked?

The image in that post does not have a unique hash, it has been posted to cuckchan many times:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/Fel0ncE4Wuejkg8PIclDog/

The first time it appeared was on August 17 with the filename 'qt314.jpg', and has since been reposted with GUID filenames as well as the filename 'Bookstore Jezebel.jpg'.

All of the posts that posted the image with a GUID filename had an American flag and were generally extolling the virtues of chastity and non-degeneracy within the context of women and marriage/relationships. Note that the GUID filename changed each time the (likely the same) anon posted the image, which suggests that it might possibly be the software used to make the post might be behind the filenames, rather than the software used to save the image.

This doesn't seem like shilling to me, and there the way in which these filenames could be used to track the dissemination of the image file is not at all obvious.


a222f8  No.12116072

>>12116063

You're either a shill or you have zero capacity for critical thinking.


7ec2a7  No.12116073

>>12116034

go for it dude

>>12116023

Okay, so I copy all this code, baste it into an empty text file, rename the extension (or none at all) chmod 775? then what?


cfe7f5  No.12116084

>>12116055

>leddit spacing

fuck off hamplanet


7a031d  No.12116086

reposting this reply from the other thread, here

>>12115968

>google will captcha troll this shit out of everything

here https://github.com/dogancelik/imgops is a script that will reverse image search on every search engine that could be incorporated into the final script. there are also a myriad of other reverse image search engines, like:

https://www.tineye.com/

https://www.prepostseo.com/reverse-image-search

https://smallseotools.com/reverse-image-search/

https://inteltechniques.com/menu.html

I'm not far enough in my learning to write this myself at this point, but maybe someone from /tech/ will do it?

>>12115979

>it wouldn't be as de-anonymizing if it randomly picks from a set of existing naming conventions that are popular

true. that's why i originally suggested it. but keep in mind, it depends on how effective their data-gathering is. everything online is recorded somewhere, archived by someone… if they get wind of what's going on, then they might be able to crossreference names with the original website and see that the image was never posted there, or that name corresponds to a different image.

>>12115983

>convert uuid/guid image filenames into stupidly short filenames consisting of for example 1 to 3 characters in order to maximize the chance of filename collisions

i like where you're going. its a good idea, but i'm not convinced it is close to fool-proof. what we really need is to figure out the enemy's data gathering/analyzing capabilities to best test if our methods will work


7a031d  No.12116090

>>12116084

anon, that's not reddit spacing. reddit spacing is much more egregious than that


a222f8  No.12116093

>>12116084

These replies are leading me to believe that the people pushing this "Joan is using GUIDs to track you" horse shit are in fact shills.


6056b1  No.12116097

>>12116065

>which suggests that it might possibly be the software used to make the post might be behind the filenames

post evidence showing a piece of software used to save images or upload them to 8ch is generating the guids.

there have been multiple anon's in multiple threads that have reported that iphone does not save images in this manner, but posts are not evidence. we need anon's to upload video of their iphones either showing this behavior or not showing this behavior.


cfe7f5  No.12116102

>>12116090

>>12116093

you both sound like faggots and have offered no evidence


6056b1  No.12116106

>>12116093

shills for what? preventing anon's from posting images with suspicious as fuck filenames? preventing anon's from using iphone/icloud? the amount of pushback this theory creates from the typical kike posters only reinforces it.


2cd45b  No.12116112

File: 439d6aefe09bdd2⋯.jpg (125.69 KB, 480x640, 3:4, algiz21371723.jpg)

>>12116093

That's because they are.


f913a4  No.12116113

>>12116055

well said anon. these shills are pathetic and this wont last much longer thankfully. its funny to watch thier tribe push this garbage and only snag a few dumbfuck morons. in a few weeks they will be outting themselves with their weak (((joan))) and (((guid))) attacks. then they will be forced to swicth vectors again


c5e7ae  No.12116128

File: 917f849d047db54⋯.jpg (22.04 KB, 480x300, 8:5, fuck if i know m8.jpg)

It's quite possible that I am retarded, but I'm not seeing an end game here.

>Anon downloads an image with a pozzed hash

>Anon at some point in the future maybe uses it as a reaction image in another thread

>So we can see which images get reposted where

>So we can learn…

>That people on /pol/ post on /pol/

Seriously, am I missing something obvious here or did this fat cunt not really think any of this all the way through?


a222f8  No.12116131

File: 2e4b58b504d52a9⋯.jpg (36.8 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 52bf4dc6bfd7df19303f4a7190….jpg)

>>12116097

>post evidence showing a piece of software used to save images or upload them to 8ch is generating the guids.

The evidence is what led to the hypothesis: 7 of the 12 times that image was posted it had a GUID filename, and each time the GUID filename was unique. Most of those posts were on the same topic and with the same flag (over a span of a few days), indicating that it was likely the same anon posting the image repeatedly. It is unlikely that the image was re-downloaded 7 times, therefore on a balance of probabilities it is more likely that the software being used to post the image was assigning the unique filename each time.

Provide evidence for the hypothesis that these GUIDs are being generated to track the posting activity of anons or the replies of anons to posts with GUID named images.


6056b1  No.12116132

i will say that this requires additional investigation. i want to know exactly when these filenames started appearing, which i will use 4pleb for, and what is generating them to either dispel the claim that it's common software that /pol/ anons are using all of the sudden or show that it is. I have a hard time believing this many anons are using brand new iphones all of the sudden that are just now saving images in this fashion, or that this many anons are using apple products in general. Even if they were, there is zero evidence that iphone saves files in this fashion. There is no documentation from apple, no videos, no images, nothing that would suggest that iphone is generating these.

Even if these did come from iphone /osx / apple it doesn't preclude the possibility that they are being used for tracking purposes, it would then show that these joan tracking shills are using iphones, which makes far more sense.


cfe7f5  No.12116134

>>12116128

not here but posted across various social media platforms ideally the real users account so they can "dox" them


7ec2a7  No.12116143

>>12116134

yeah - they can dox my fake black panther twitter account. woo hoo…


997dfa  No.12116146

It's not clear cut either way because you don't know what you don't know.

I'm reindexing my image similarity page and including filenames so we can see exactly which different images are in fact identical but reposted with minor corruptions


a222f8  No.12116149

>>12116128

There is no evidence that the images with GUID filenames have unique hashes.


6056b1  No.12116156

>>12116149

4pleb archives can be scraped for this information. the script i wrote to download all guid images on /pol/ could be modified to record this information, but it would have to be run on a regular basis. atleast it would not have to download all of the images, 8ch provides the md5 hash in the json.


a222f8  No.12116160

>>12116146

>see exactly which different images are in fact identical but reposted with minor corruptions

Make sure you include galleries of the "identical" images so we can be sure your code isn't just finding false positives.


f913a4  No.12116170

>>12116106

look at all those questions. straight up Q style circular logic. that wont work here.


7a031d  No.12116173

>>12116102

>offered no evidence

evidence of what, nigger?

>>12116093

>These replies are leading me to believe that the people pushing this "Joan is using GUIDs to track you" horse shit are in fact shills

some people are just stupid, anon. also, even if this landwhale isn't doing it, we know the gummints, soros and a shitton of others are. so, in the end, whatever gets ppl to think up a valid solution is good. just go with it and filter obvious trolls


a222f8  No.12116180

>>12116156

I already did a example search on 4plebs that proves that the first time an GUID named image was posted it did not have a GUID filename. It also showed that the image was posted with a GUID filename 7 times and the GUID was unique each time: >>12116065


6056b1  No.12116186

>>12116037

>using exception handling to test for something inside of a loop

/tech/ would have an aneurysm


cb6c9d  No.12116193

>>12116055

>they could not be meaningfully used for tracking the activity of anons

In your own post you say it's possible, but it's unlikely because users have to save the image with the original file name. On 8chan it is possible like you said, just less likely. That's not proof that you can't track people with it. They get less hits, but the hits they get are useful.

Who says they are not also using alternate ways of tracking users such as recording the automatically generated file name? You would have no way of knowing.

This post is entirely based on speculation, you aren't even sure if iOS uses those naming conventions. And they could very well have been spreading the images as early as January. Bring some actual evidence against this theory.


6056b1  No.12116194

>>12116180

testing 1 image is not enough. all guid images on 8ch at any one time should be pumped through 4pleb for analysis. last time i did the scrape it was 550+.


a222f8  No.12116195

>>12116173

>we know the gummints, soros and a shitton of others are

I'm well aware they use image data to deanonymize our posts, I brought that up in the first post in my thread.

>whatever gets ppl to think up a valid solution is good

I agree that a solution should be created for automatic anonymization of image data and widely adopted by anons. We do however need to put this "Joan and the GUIDs" hysteria to bed, because it's fucking embarrassing and is wasting people's time.


7a031d  No.12116201

>>12116143

>yeah - they can dox my fake black panther twitter account. woo hoo…

you should take opsec more seriously anon. just as a general rule. you still put a password on that twitter account that you don't care about, no? why? because that's just proper practice. there doesn't have to be a reason for opsec – it should just be part of your routine as a matter of course

>>12116156

good work anon. also remember this >>12116160

and you could use that github script I posted the link to earlier


6056b1  No.12116209

>>12116193

they could just as easily record the 8ch unique filename the moment they post their guid image. 8ch filenames will remain static as long as the md5 matches.


997dfa  No.12116212

>>12116160

It's definitely not finding false positives because I am searching a feature space using k-nearest neighbors using an identity matrix and taking the second neighbor (first neighbor is self). So I take the smallest non-zero distance (the 2nd neighbor) and only include those neighbors which are within 5% of the maximum distance.


908b88  No.12116215

>>12116201

Always use different passwords.

For example, if you use the same password on different sites, there's no guarantee they'll be hashed or plaintext, encrypted, or not. Even then, sites can use the same salt for hashes (think forum software or wikia software), and the last thing you want is a list of known hashes being linked to you.


7a031d  No.12116228

>>12116195

>We do however need to put this "Joan and the GUIDs" hysteria to bed, because it's fucking embarrassing and is wasting people's time

no arguments here. i doubt the effectiveness of their efforts considering she was so incompetent that she actually believed an over-the-top ironic mekotur tweet was real info


cb6c9d  No.12116237

>>12116170

Answer the question. How is

>pushing this "Joan is using GUIDs to track you"

Beneficial to shills? Create paranoia? We already are paranoid. Distraction? There are much easier and more effective ways for shills to disctract us. They just make a "Trump is ZOG" or "christcuck" thread.

Just watch, someone will make a statement about me because I mentioned those.


a222f8  No.12116240

File: 4922b77d8d2bee6⋯.png (160.48 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 99ca8f248fbd0abc1ea3fdd0d1….png)

>>12116193

>That's not proof that you can't track people with it. They get less hits, but the hits they get are useful.

The point is that the alphabets already track and deanonymize our posts using the image data, and they don't need to try to bait us into saving them with filenames that almost no one will save them as. They simply track based on the automatically generated filename (e.g. can tell what previous threads that anon was in) or based on unique filename the anon saved the image to on their computer (this is the most deanonymizing thing of all).

To say that there is a scheme that's been cooked up to track image posting by uploading images with filenames that almost no one will save is fucking retarded.

>Who says they are not also using alternate ways of tracking users such as recording the automatically generated file name? You would have no way of knowing.

They are doing this and always have been. That's why this "Joan and the GUIDs" hysteria is fucking retarded: Not only is it an inefficient scheme, it's redundant.

>Bring some actual evidence against this theory.

Bring some actual evidence FOR the theory.


a222f8  No.12116264

>>12116194

>testing 1 image is not enough

Then why don't you try testing some more instead of copy pasting your pleb-tier spaghetti code and acting like you're a big brained hacker?

>>12116237

Waste our time, make less intelligent anons afraid to save images or post here, and eventually demoralize us once it's revealed that time has been wasted over nothing. Keep in mind they may not be glow in the dark shills, but just trolls who are in it for the lulz.


69ce8d  No.12116279

>>12116063

Fatty fat fat LOVES pasta. The pasta monster will eat it all cause she's starving


997dfa  No.12116294

>>12116264

I personally don't care too much for the GUID shit. I want to see who is posting similar images across various threads, and compare the differences between those images for the lulz.


cb6c9d  No.12116295

>>12116240

Except you are forgetting about one very important thing. These other tracking methods only work within the chans.

It's been stated several times in these threads that the goal is to track them inside and outside the chans, to identify people's accounts on Twitter for example. On other websites there is no way to track an image they let out in the wild, a user saves, and brings and posts to 4chan. That's the whole point, it is another way of tracking on more sites besides just the chans.

Stop with the bold and red text, it makes you seem hysterical.


997dfa  No.12116301

>>12116295

thats why i'm concerned about steganography


6056b1  No.12116309

>>12116264

that's exactly what I plan on doing jew, if you don't think these guid's are an issue why are you shilling against it so hard in this thread? why are you so angry about it? at the worst it will be a mild irritation for idiot anons using iphones, which is the only real counterargument you kikes are putting out against it, which your doing less of now since you can't come up with any evidence to show iphones are actually producing these images.

Now your arguments are getting so outrageous they're worse than what's being argued here.

>>12116240

>The point is that the alphabets already track and deanonymize our posts using the image data, and they don't need to try to bait us into saving them with filenames that almost no one will save them as.

<Oy vey stop looking into this the battle has already been lost Google is tracking everything you do on this board they don't need joan!

and argument #2

>make less intelligent anons afraid to save images or post here

I thought google was already tracking it kike, which means it's WORSE than this joan investigation.

if anything cloudflare would be doing this not google, but your quickly pulling arguments out of your ass because your iphone argument is breaking down.


cb6c9d  No.12116341

>>12116301

True, that is a real threat. I wonder if there is some program to detect anomalies in images and if so how effective they are. The best way to be safe would be to not post images you've saved from the chans on other sites, as long as you repost them here they can't tie you to an identity.


997dfa  No.12116352

>>12116341

I'm about to post a comprehensive list of similar images on /pol/


cb6c9d  No.12116357

>>12116309

a222f8 is very suspect, there is little risk to this theory being wrong and a lot of right with it being right. He is also using Lain images a lot in an attempt to identify himself as another anon who always posts Lain images, and the real anon is much more rational. If he is a shill they are putting a lot more work into fighting this theory than other posts.


7a031d  No.12116365

>>12116215

i hadn't really though too deeply into that as an attack vector, but i almost always do. good input, anon

>>12116237

>Beneficial to shills? Create paranoia? We already are paranoid. Distraction?

it seems to me the fact that this is motivating anons to think about opsec means its a positive development

>There are much easier and more effective ways for shills to disctract us

like whining about muh hamlpanet in a thread where anons are motivated to talk about opsec? it seems to me the real shills are the faggots distracting away from meaningful progress by getting caught up on the particulars of this specific cunt rather than the idea of helping anons circumvent surveillance

>>12116240

>They simply track… based on unique filename the anon saved the image to on their computer (this is the most deanonymizing thing of all)

right, so let's stop getting caught up with the specifics and work toward helping anons not be tracked in this way!

>>12116295

>Except you are forgetting about one very important thing. These other tracking methods only work within the chans

i think this argument is stupid, but you're wrong on this point. the main way to track individuals is finding them posting the same image with the same name across multiple accounts. the origination of the image, and its "original" filename, is irrelevant. its you posting the image over and over again throughout time that gets you tracked. let's concentrate on solving that problem


7a031d  No.12116374

>>12116341

>The best way to be safe would be to not post images you've saved from the chans on other sites

we could modify the program i've suggested to not just reverse image search and pull a new filename but to ALSO swap the image as well, which would solve the steganography problem, assuming the reverse image search would identify the two images as the same regardless of the fact that one had a watermark or whatnot in it

>>12116357

>a222f8 is very suspect

anyone engaging in the "is the hambeast really gonna get us" argument is suspect. stop worrying about it and start helping solve the problems we've already identified ffs


743197  No.12116385

Someone photoshopped an eye in her butthole which was worth it all for me.


69ce8d  No.12116404

>>12116385

Also please shoop two buttholes where it's eyes are located. Would be funny


a222f8  No.12116412

File: a690911e26a1224⋯.gif (548.59 KB, 500x357, 500:357, a690911e26a12243596388b883….gif)

>>12116295

>These other tracking methods only work within the chans.

How so? If someone uploads an image saved from the chans and they upload it to twitter, all twitter's sever has to do is check the filename and hash and cross reference it with a database of images from the chans.

>to identify people's accounts on Twitter for example

Ever noticed how when you upload an image to twitter it takes a canvas fingerprint? Twitter is taking a snapshot of your unique hardware and software configuration, every single time you upload an image. There is no telling what sort of analysis they do behind the scenes with regards to filename and file hash. All of that data is also intercepted by the NSA and analyzed by their own software for tracking user activity on the web; it's likely that Palantir software has modules built in exclusively for analysis of imageboard posting activity.

>Stop with the bold and red text, it makes you seem hysterical.

Stop with the brainlet-tier posts, it makes you look like a boomer-tech moron.

>if you don't think these guid's are an issue why are you shilling against it so hard in this thread?

You're shitting up my board with useless FUD. I've tolerated this "Joan and the GUIDs" fucking nonsense for long enough. I thought anons would have already put this shit to rest days ago, but apparently someone needs to hold your hand and explain to you how you lack basic critical thinking skills and are ignorant beyond belief with regards to the reality of the surveillance being conducted here.

>you can't come up with any evidence to show iphones are actually producing these images.

Meanwhile you have provided exactly zero evidence for your claims about these GUIDs tracking anons or recording responses to posts that use these GUID images.

>Google is tracking everything you do on this board

If you think Google is the sole entity we're up against you're fucking retarded. Are you even aware of the fact that every byte you send across the Internet is copied to NSA servers and saved forever? Do you even know about the fibre optic splitters?

Now you're accusing me of not caring about opsec and encouraging you to "give up", meanwhile in my very first post in this thread I encouraged the development of a reliable solution for anonymizing image data, stating that it is in fact a serious opsec problem. I've also provided you with information to help accomplish this effectively, which included dispelling the hysteria surrounding this "Joan and the GUIDs" nonsense to educate you on the actual opsec threats that exist in reality.

>if anything cloudflare would be doing this not google

You are Dunning-Kruger syndrome personified.

>>12116357

>there is little risk to this theory being wrong and a lot of right with it being right

I've already explained how the theory is wrong and explained that a far larger opsec problem does exist and should be focused on instead. Yes, we need a reliable way to anonymize image data. No, the hambeast in OP is not using GUID image filenames to do so.

>He is also using Lain images a lot in an attempt to identify himself as another anon who always posts Lain images

<only one anon is allowed to post images of Lain

Go back to cuckchan for fucks sake.


7a031d  No.12116416

>>12116385

r'ing eye-in-butthole.jpg


2b221e  No.12116418

File: 78738a1b3ce0264⋯.png (287.14 KB, 400x426, 200:213, 9238hf9ih298jhfdlkjh298.png)

>>12116240

> Alphabets this, Alphabets that.

They don't care enough anon. Your shitty argument of "This doesn't matter because this other thing is bigger" holds no water.

The reason for concern is that this is a ghetto attempts at doing what the alphabets do but with a more ideological bent.

Alphabets will look at the chans and collate them as a single point of data into some prediction so they can try to steer the country depending on trajectory.

This half-assed private sector attempt will create a service that will be sold to HR departments as a way to avoid "non-team players" or applicants with "an anti-social bent" or somesuch doublespeak.

Guess which one will have more immediate effects on your life anon?


a222f8  No.12116424

>>12116412

Half of this post was meant for: >>12116309


997dfa  No.12116429

File: 329e017a4ad8946⋯.png (1.11 MB, 1546x1670, 773:835, Screen Shot 2018-09-06 at ….png)

Updated /pol/ similar images index


a222f8  No.12116431

File: 9d5158602b6abed⋯.png (356.15 KB, 320x563, 320:563, 1519659152871.png)

>>12116418

>the three letter agencies don't monitor the chans

>I wouldn't worry about it, goy

<9238hf9ih298jhfdlkjh298.png


997dfa  No.12116439

>>12116240

>They simply track based on the automatically generated filename

Nigger what


61a167  No.12116443

>>12116023

Does Joan on her shill posts still say those filenames are just simply iphone filenames?


2b221e  No.12116447

File: 700bc7e34b2f5c7⋯.png (61.49 KB, 246x112, 123:56, readgud.png)

>>12116431

> No reading comprehension

They most certainly do anon. But their purposes are larger and will not directly impact you (usually, this offer not valid if you become a good agitator at naming the jew).

The point is that this less sophisticated, private sector attempt at alphabet-style data gathering can have value and thus can be sold and is much more immediate.

Consider the eternal normie, with FB and twitter and so on. He harmlessly posts an image originating in a chan. Our private-sector product uses the ultimate in Joan-Tech to sniff out those stale memes in their public facing accounts and puts Normie-kun in an easy to access database (for only $599.99 a month) that can let employers know if he's a good goy or not.

That is the issue.


a222f8  No.12116451

>>12116439

Tell me the difference between tracking the spread of an image using the auto-generated filename or with a GUID filename.


a222f8  No.12116455

File: e4e96cfe67f7be0⋯.jpg (56.85 KB, 573x493, 573:493, 1519538374823.jpg)

>>12116447

<posts two facebook boomer memes in a row

<still trying to convince us not to worry about the alphabets monitoring the chans

>implying the chans aren't run by the alphabets as honeypots in the first place


997dfa  No.12116456

>>12116447

So good goys do not post memes?


a222f8  No.12116464

>>12116429

>first image comparison is between the exact same image, even has the same filename (one was likely uploaded with additional images to get around duplicate image posting limit)

>second comparison is between the first time the image was uploaded and of the same image (with the hash modified by 8chan) being reposted

Nigger you can't be serious.


fec613  No.12116465

>When you spot Joan in another thread and she call you a kike

wew


f913a4  No.12116467

>>12116418

more circular logic. either way, it doesn’t matter; ANY WAY, it doesnt matter. we are not scared of any if this nigger, you shouldnt either. btw, that is a fucking lefty meme and you just outted yourself with that shit. keep wasting your time shilling with your sad attempt at fear mongering nigger, it wont work on us.

my name is justin peterson, im a proud White nationalist, and im in upstate NY. dox me faggot, go for it, PLEASE. see, WE DONT CARE. you do not nor will you EVER have that ability because you are technically illiterate. you cant even defend your position with a lucid argument, so why in the fuck should anyone be afraid of you? defened your position on that faggot, try to. make me laugh at you again


997dfa  No.12116476

>>12116464

Posted in different threads


997dfa  No.12116479

>>12116464

What's your point? 8chan won't let you upload identical images.


6056b1  No.12116490

>>12116412

>mysterious database of chan images

>NSA blackpill

>boomer meme

>FUD

>more NSA blackpill

filtered, i'm done with you jew


2b221e  No.12116495

File: 1c551ee0dd7644d⋯.png (1.06 KB, 500x250, 2:1, Oekaki.png)

>>12116456

This isn't about whether good goys post memes or not anon.

You're not thinking about money enough. What Joan will do is find any patsy and name him alt-right so that HR departments will give her money.

Our hypothetical Normie-kun may be the goodest of goys, but so long as he commits the grave sin of reposting a single non-kosher meme he can go into the list so that we can sell the list.

We simply hide the list under a veneer of 'research'.

Have you never talked to an actual corporate salesman, anon? They'd buy this kind of shit in a heartbeat as long as you throw enough synergistic IoT AI Cloud HyperConverged technobabble

>>12116467

LOLWUT

>>12116455

How is me trying to explain that Joan is jury-rigging an Alphabet process for eventual profit telling you not to worry about the 3-letters? I'm just telling you to be more worried, because if it takes off then you can expect more 'entrepeneurs' to come out of the Alphabets with even worse shit….


f913a4  No.12116500

>>12116490

ah yes, filter someone when you cant accept they are right. glad to see that you finally fucking gave it up.


61a167  No.12116505

>>12116490

>blackpill

That's D&C anon.


997dfa  No.12116507

>>12116412

>If we want to have a serious discussion about opsec and image filenames and hashes, by all means we should do so (in fact I've been thinking about posting a thread about this security risk for some months now to inform anons of the opsec security vulnerability mentioned above and propose some potential solutions).

>>12116412

>I've also provided you with information to help accomplish this effectively, which included dispelling the hysteria surrounding this "Joan and the GUIDs" nonsense to educate you on the actual opsec threats that exist in reality.

Provides literally nothing of value


a222f8  No.12116515

File: 899062eb6587b60⋯.gif (304.38 KB, 700x704, 175:176, beb8ccd73ade1e3d651485d9c3….gif)

File: b7f0be24ce0095f⋯.gif (616 B, 40x40, 1:1, bypass_pepe.gif)

>>12116476

And this is meant to be evidence of what, exactly?

>>12116479

Nigger you can upload identical images if you upload more than one image at a time, how new are you? My point was that your little analysis demonstrated nothing suspicious.

>>12116490

>>mysterious database of chan images

There's nothing "mysterious" about it, there are public archives of most a major boards, and we know that the NSA saves literally everything.

>>NSA blackpill

So speaking about the truth is forbidden because it scares you? You are an absolute faggot.

>>boomer meme

I respect a well maintained lawn but keep your facebook image macros the fuck off of my board.

>>FUD

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Old school pysops.

>>more NSA blackpill

<accurate intelligence reports must be ignored if I don't like what I hear

Utter coward.


997dfa  No.12116516

>>12116495

There are shit loads of existing meme posters that post shit on their facebook publicly. What's the big deal?


f913a4  No.12116518

>>12116495

you clearly didnt get it nigger, nothing you are doing here matters. HR departments cant do shit with anything, the lawsuits they would face for discrimination would put them out of business. you know this, we know this. why are you still here? this is why people hate niggers like you. your people are dumb as fuck


a222f8  No.12116522

>>12116495

>….

>….

Go back to your q containment board faggot.


997dfa  No.12116526

>>12116429

Has anybody found anything interesting yet?


7a031d  No.12116528

ITT: Feds arguing with each other to distract from real progress

if there are any real anons still ITT, just don't engage with them


997dfa  No.12116536

>>12116528

agreed. what's the current working theory and what will be our next research direction?


f913a4  No.12116538

>>12116528

>>12116536

swedish elections on the 9th


6056b1  No.12116539

>>12116526

i'm scraping every guid on /pol/ right now and then getting the number of md5 matches on 4pleb, i'll post results when finished.


997dfa  No.12116541

>>12116528

>>12116086

>what we really need is to figure out the enemy's data gathering/analyzing capabilities to best test if our methods will work

might be an intractable problem


a222f8  No.12116556

File: 9483e82e9649ebe⋯.png (286.19 KB, 561x540, 187:180, 9483e82e9649ebeb2df2af3d5f….png)

>>12116507

>provides nothing of value

As opposed to your spaghetti code pleb scripts you are posting so that our enemies can also analyze our communication on the board?

Holding your hand and explaining to you that this "Joan and the GUIDs" nonsense is not the real concern is in itself valuable, but if you want to get pedantic about it most of the advice I posted was in the previous thread. It's pretty simple: File hashes need to be non-destructively altered, and filenames need to be generated in such a way so as to be non-unique (e.g. match the file's hash to that of an image that already exists in an archive such as 4plebs.org and randomly select a filename based on the results).

Please post more shittershattered responses, anon-kun. The fact you revealed you're fresh off of the boat from cuckchan just makes your salt all the more delicious.


2b221e  No.12116557

File: 4e6a79defba1fd8⋯.png (11.43 KB, 97x179, 97:179, shrug.png)

>>12116516

If Joan-Tech and it's half-baked pseudo-tracking methods can be monetized, then an actually good tracking method would be worth more.

And if this one spook process is worth money, why not copy and corporat-ize another process after I work at a 3-letter for a few years?

The only take away from all this, if nothing else gets through, is: 1. You can probably track anons within 8chan based on filenames 2. Practice safe opsec, as you should already be doing.

>>12116518

> Rule of law will prevail

We can hope anon. However, you forget something: political belief is not a protected class.

Except in Commiefornia, oddly enough.

>>12116522

No, especially since you are the only one making an attempt at discussion.

>>12116541

I agree, remembering how to keep anonymity is probably the best, such as with the methods at the top of the thread.

I've always wanted to make a script that randomizes image data and filenames on my saved folder. I should see if anything like that already exists.


997dfa  No.12116561

>>12116539

can you explain the logic behind your reasoning? what link are you trying to establish?

are you obtaining md5 for all images on 8ch and 4chan? or are you just focusing on guid images


7a031d  No.12116567

>>12116541

>might be an intractable problem

true, but we can still speculate and act based upon our best guesses

>>12116536

>what's the current working theory and what will be our next research direction?

uh…

>working theory

>research

neither. we need to build a script that jumbles filenames in order to circumvent tracking full stop. the landwhale is irrelevant, and i'm not interested in idle speculation about dime-store political actors


997dfa  No.12116573

>>12116567

i'm not convinced that is a complete solution. stegnography remains a persistent threat even if the metadata (filename) is scrambled


f913a4  No.12116583

>>12116557

i haven’t forgotten shit nigger. i would love to sue a company that had an HR dept that utilized such data. im a law fag nigger and you want to lecture me on the fucking law? go to law school you subhuman piece of shit before you try that. i alreadu told you, your fear mongering isn’t going to work here. your just making a fool of yourself. first you proove that your retarded on the subject of tech, now your demonstrating your ignorance of the law? FUCKING KEK NIGGER! please respond again cunt, this is some funny shit


997dfa  No.12116587

>>12116567

I posted code earlier for maximizing filename collisions. This script reduces filenames to hexadecimal representations of integers starting from zero so the filename is extremely compact

See >>12116037


997dfa  No.12116592

>>12116341

>>12116374

one steganography algorithm description:

The embedding algorithm roughly works as follows: At

first, the secret data is compressed and encrypted. Then a

sequence of postions of pixels in the cover file is cre­

ated based on a pseudo-random number generator initialized

with the passphrase (the secret data will be embedded in

the pixels at these positions). Of these positions those

that do not need to be changed (because they already con­

tain the correct value by chance) are sorted out. Then a

graph-theoretic matching algorithm finds pairs of posi­

tions such that exchanging their values has the effect of

embedding the corresponding part of the secret data. If

the algorithm cannot find any more such pairs all

exchanges are actually performed. The pixels at the

remaining positions (the positions that are not part of

such a pair) are also modified to contain the embedded

data (but this is done by overwriting them, not by

exchanging them with other pixels). The fact that (most

of) the embedding is done by exchanging pixel values

implies that the first-order statistics (i.e. the number

of times a color occurs in the picture) is not changed.

For audio files the algorithm is the same, except that

audio samples are used instead of pixels.


6056b1  No.12116598

>>12116561

i'm getting all images with a guid posted on /pol/ and searching 4pleb for the md5 to see how many results it produces. I want to see how many of these images are OC first of all, and to what extent they're on 4chan.

depending on how widespread these images are i'll either look to see what the filenames are on 4chan manually (to see if they're guids) or script it. i'm not sure what i'm trying to accomplish but I'm curious about the result. many of these guid images posted on /pol/ seem to be OC.


a222f8  No.12116605

File: f1c8317248ef89f⋯.jpg (42.15 KB, 341x500, 341:500, 1536292083472.jpg)

File: d84e449ae70393d⋯.png (244.98 KB, 1401x512, 1401:512, guid_1.png)

Found another one in a currently live thread on cuckchan:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/184842979#p184843609

126 results for the image hash on 4plebs.org:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/I1ZE1tOqQfTu2aN47pGKYQ/

Image was first posted on February 16 2015. First GUID filename appears on 16 November 2017:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/149690447/#149691426

All of the posts that have GUID filenames (all of which seem to be unique) are just random, run of the mill cuckchan shitposts.


997dfa  No.12116607

>>12116598

>many of these guid images posted on /pol/ seem to be OC.

what is the nature of this OC?

Even if the GUID/UUID leads fizzle out we must continue to explore the very real threat of concealed messages within images shared on chans, and methods which can be used to destroy concealed messages


7a031d  No.12116612

>>12116573

>i'm not convinced that is a complete solution. stegnography remains a persistent threat even if the metadata (filename) is scrambled

i already pointed out that our script could swap the file itself

so…

HEY ANONS WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO HELP

between my programming knowledge and others here, we might actually be able to get a good rough draft of a script going if we all would just concentrate rather than argue over piddly shit like women…

okay, so I found this script. some retarded tranny faggot wrote it in GO like a homo rather than C like a white man, but it can still work.

 https'':''//github.com/dogancelik/imgops 

so, all we then need to do is get a script that loads all the images in a particular directory, or directories, into this script, then randomly picks a match and swaps the out the file, preserving the new filename.

this shouldn't be hard. give me a month and i'll be far enough into my studies that I could probably write this from scratch by memory. BUT, we all should know enough to find similar scripts that do what we want and copypasta code from them into our script in order to accomplish the task. this is what all those pajeets do, after all.

y'all up for it?


7a031d  No.12116628

>>12116583

you're a fucking retard if you think that HR departments don't use facebook data in determining hires and even more retarded if you think you'll be able to sue over it. stop arguing and start helping, or just fuck off

>>12116592

>>12116587

see: >>12116612


997dfa  No.12116629

>>12116612

are you suggesting to compile a list of all guid/uuid files, then perform pairwise swaps randomly?


a222f8  No.12116634

>>12116612

Ideally it would be a browser plugin that copies the image to a temporary directory, alters the hash and assigns it a new filename, and then passes it to the browser (when making new posts on 8ch or 4chan). That way it leaves your original memes unmolested and does its work automatically when posting on the chans.


997dfa  No.12116637

>>12116612

>this is what all those pajeets do, after all.

are you a fucking pajeet?


6056b1  No.12116654

>>12116607

what is the nature of this OC?

>>12107921

>>12116612

>some retarded tranny faggot wrote it in GO

rather just write it from scratch lol

>>12116634

>Ideally it would be a browser plugin that copies the image to a temporary directory, alters the hash and assigns it a new filename

this would be good if the filename can be made to be not unique somehow.


7a031d  No.12116666

>>12116629

>are you suggesting to compile a list of all guid/uuid files, then perform pairwise swaps randomly?

i'm open to ideas like >>12116634 but what i'm suggesting is a program that you feed in a directory (ie. ~/Downloads/chan-memes) and the script goes to each file in the directory and swaps it for a file (and filename) found through a reverse image search.

if you're like me, then you download your memes into a "new" folder and they hang out there until you can file them properly by topic/board etc. so, before you file them, you run this program in order to swap them out. perhaps you should run it once every couple weeks on your whole meme directory just to make sure to keep changing shit so you're not posting the same file with the same filename over and over throughout time, which is how you'd be tracked

I first suggested simply renaming the file, but this anon >>12116592 is super-paranoid about steganography. how much of a worry that should be is not clear to me. I've been through several paranoid freakouts on h8/pol/ over the years for instance, I was in the new a wyatt mann pic thread where anons have freaked out about steganography and we've never been able to uncover even once instance of it. it is, however, a valid concern generally speaking

>>12116634

browser plugins are way out of my domain, anon, so i can't help there. and, quite frankly, I thought it was generally suggested to avoid browser plugins as much as possible. I probably wouldn't use the browser plugin, tbh. but, if I had the program with source code, I would use it. perhaps i'm out of step with the average user, tho. idk


f913a4  No.12116682

>>12116628

hahaha never said anything about faceberg faggot !lulz! once again, the retard is you!! besides, you would have to be on it in the first place and thats not the type of data source i was referring to-neither were you! there you go again; outting yourself by assuming everyone is just like you ya fuckin normmie. i dont fuck with kikebook, unlike you. dox me you fucking nigger, you cant even find me haha


f913a4  No.12116685

>>12116628

its been fun nigger but im bored with you now. have a nice night nigger. nigger.


a222f8  No.12116691

File: 72f32c34e118e6f⋯.jpg (33.63 KB, 540x390, 18:13, 72f32c34e118e6f3f038192ef0….jpg)

>>12116605

Just asked the anon who made that post what he used to make the post and he says he's on an iPhone:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/184842979#p184845701

Currently waiting to hear back about what app he's using to post.

>>12116654

>this would be good if the filename can be made to be not unique somehow.

Non-unique such as pulling from a database of filenames scraped from the web based on the md5 hash of the image would be ideal. The next best thing is a randomly generated filename, ironically along the lines of the GUID filename, or perhaps optionally mimicking the 8ch or 4chan filenaming scheme.

>>12116666

>swaps it for a file (and filename) found through a reverse image search

This is totally unnecessary. All that needs to be done is to alter the hash of the file, which can be done programatically in different ways depending on filetype, as well as change the filename. I believe with jpg data can be appended to the file without altering the image data, and with other types such as .png a pixel could be selected and random and its hue incremented or decremented by the minimum amount.

The plugin or app could have a mode that alters the hash and filename of every image in a directory its pointed to, on request. I propose the name of the plugin/application be:

MemeCleaner


7a031d  No.12116697

>>12116637

>are you a fucking pajeet?

no, but after ~3wks of studying C Programming I have about as much knowledge/skill as most pajeets actually getting paid to do this

>>12116654

>rather just write it from scratch lol

I hear this all the time, esp from faggots on IRC, and it has never ended well. not once. but, if you want to do the work, then be my guest

>>12116682

>>12116685

lol it doesn't realize its already filtered. cute


a222f8  No.12116721

File: 2d20f6367187739⋯.jpg (44.27 KB, 429x472, 429:472, 2d20f63671877394d8fdace36b….jpg)

>>12116666 checked

>browser plugins are way out of my domain, anon, so i can't help there. and, quite frankly, I thought it was generally suggested to avoid browser plugins as much as possible. I probably wouldn't use the browser plugin, tbh. but, if I had the program with source code, I would use it. perhaps i'm out of step with the average user, tho. idk

Browser plugins for both chrome and firefox would be ideal, because the goal is to have as many anons as possible begin using it. If it's integrated seamlessly into posting then people will just install it and forget about it. The plugin's source code can be published to a git repo, and I wouldn't even consider using it if it wasn't.

I just had a thought: What if we convinced CodeMonkey to add a feature to optionally disable hosting the original image file on a per board basis? I mean, evidently 8ch is hosting the same image file twice, once as the original and once as the hash modified version with the randomly generated name (I would be interested to see what data is changed in the image file to alter the hash, come to think of it…). This would not protect your memes from being analyzed server-side (or the data intercepted on the way to the server), but it would prevent third parties from scraping the memes for analysis and tracking.


7a031d  No.12116730

>>12116691

>Non-unique such as pulling from a database of filenames scraped from the web based on the md5 hash of the image would be ideal. The next best thing is a randomly generated filename…

like pulling the filename from the reverse image search, like I said?

>All that needs to be done is to alter the hash of the file

okay… you know how to do that and can write it into a program? will the hue change both leave image quality unchanged but also get around a reverse image search? would there still be a way for (((them))) to search for their watermark, even after you've modified the hue or whatnot?

i'm not entirely sure of the enemy's methods, which I pointed out earlier would be really helpful. but, we can speculate, probably pretty accurately

>MemeCleaner

I like the name. i wonder if we could put options into MemeCleaner so that anons could pick what they want to do, like Quick Clean (just swaps out filenames) and Full Clean (does everything we've talked about) and perhaps a level or two in between.

For me, tbh, I'm not concerned about steganography. Pretty much all of the macros I post are probably pretty common, with the exception of my OC. so, for me, just switching out the filenames with filenames found on a reverse image search every few days/weeks is all I would probably do.


7a031d  No.12116733

>>12116691

>>12116730

wait… how about just

MemeClean

that way it kinda rhymes? maybe a little snappier?


7a031d  No.12116751

>>12116721

>What if we convinced CodeMonkey to add a feature to optionally disable hosting the original image file

idk if you could get him to do it, but its an interesting possibility

>I would be interested to see what data is changed in the image file to alter the hash

this would be VERY useful information


a222f8  No.12116767

File: 7003359366341c5⋯.gif (14.67 KB, 440x240, 11:6, 4fa0e7725b1664e46675d0bc85….gif)

>>12116730

>ike pulling the filename from the reverse image search, like I said?

Yes, but reverse image search does not search by file hash, to my knowledge. The alpha version of the app can simply generate a random filename, and advanced features such as searching the web for alternate pre-existing filenames can be added later on.

>okay… you know how to do that and can write it into a program?

I can figure out how to do it for each image type, and yes I can program it.

>will the hue change both leave image quality unchanged but also get around a reverse image search?

It should not change the image quality, just slightly alter one pixel (probably imperceptibly). Reverse image search searches by the appearance of the image (notice how it returns false positives with similar colors and shapes?), so it will probably still return results for the same unaltered image. Why are you concerned about evading reverse image search?

>would there still be a way for (((them))) to search for their watermark, even after you've modified the hue or whatnot?

Do we have any evidence of images having special watermarks embedded in the image data? If so, the appropriate action to take in that case is to delete the meme, it's permanently tainted. Detecting these watermarks and deleting those images would be a lot of work, you would need a database of these watermarks.

>>12116733

>MemeClean

I like it.

>For me, tbh, I'm not concerned about steganography.

One thing MemeClean should do is detect embedded files in images, and by that I mean things like zip files that have been concatenated to the image files, and strip them out or delete the file if necessary. Not sure if you know this, but you can concatenate a zip file to an image and upload it to 8ch. Any image you download could potentially have a zip file full of CP in it. (This is something we should ask CodeMonkey to check for server-side).

>>12116751

>this would be VERY useful information

We could run an analysis comparing the hex dumps of the original file and the 8ch file with the modified hash. Fuck, I wonder if it stamps something on there like "from 8ch.net", that would be fucking retarded.


6056b1  No.12116784

File: 1db98edfbf1436a⋯.png (4.89 KB, 627x398, 627:398, test1.png)

File: d3937e2b023b2cf⋯.png (8.33 KB, 627x398, 627:398, test2.png)

File: 1c5f047cc979446⋯.png (1.51 KB, 627x398, 627:398, diff.png)

>>12116751

>I would be interested to see what data is changed in the image file to alter the hash

imagemagick can do this


compare -compose src test1.png test2.png diff.png


a222f8  No.12116805

File: 34d18e3c1be7fd4⋯.png (20.26 KB, 326x272, 163:136, 34d18e3c1be7fd45114dd7eeaf….png)

>>12116784

I'm not sure it's visual image data, but do you want to try this image? Not at my *nix boxen at the moment.


a222f8  No.12116810

File: 507f4f125651c3c⋯.png (99.46 KB, 470x364, 235:182, 1519092847356.png)

>>12116805

Wait don't do that image, it seems to have automatically detected that it exists on the server and created a link to the existing image. Try this one instead.


6056b1  No.12116860

>>12116598

well this is going to take a while. 4pleb has a rate limit for these md5 searches. 1 request every 10 seconds. that and i'm getting seperate "the backend encountered an error" on some of these which I suspect is the scraper getting blocked.


6056b1  No.12116866

>>12116805

>>12116810

where's the second image to compare? and ya i doubt it's going to be visual, if it's stegged it's going to be a bunch of static.


a222f8  No.12116874

>>12116866

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/507f4f125651c3c7745ec754c250c6928eeac60ea592d427109ba221cccbe6f3.png/1519092847356.png

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/507f4f125651c3c7745ec754c250c6928eeac60ea592d427109ba221cccbe6f3.png


6056b1  No.12116884

>>12116874

blank image, checked the md5's and they're identical.


7a031d  No.12116889

File: ad90fad2a5e3089⋯.png (1.84 MB, 1276x1170, 638:585, newfag_detector.png)

>>12116767

>but reverse image search does not search by file hash

if you're just searching for a commonly used filename, and if ppl like Shareblue are using reverse image search to track macros, then why does it matter?

>alpha version of the app can simply generate a random filename… can be added later on

but, to me, this is the most important part. anonymizing by using a common filename is actually where this whole discussion started

>It should not change the image quality, just slightly alter one pixel

but over time it could add up. and, the point is not altering the macro but altering it over and over again over time so you're not posting the same image over and over. the best case scenario would be to build a database and when anons use the program, it would alter all of the macros to have the same hash in order to be anonymous by fitting into the crowd. otherwise, you still have the problem of the same macro with the same hash being posted by one anon over time, thereby allowing tracking

>Why are you concerned about evading reverse image search?

I just assumed that mid-level political actors like Shareblue, PACs, journalists etc would be using reverse image searches to compile data. you're clearly worried about higher-level actors, like feds - which is good - but that runs us into the problem above of posting a macro with a unique hash over and over throughout time

>Do we have any evidence of images having special watermarks embedded in the image data?

no. i've been told porn companies do this in order to catch paid subscribers reuploading their vids to torrent sites, but not political actors afaik. as i said, i've been through a number of /pol/ panics concerning this subject and not once has anyone ever actually been able to find a watermark etc. but, other anon was worried about it, so that's why i brought it up.

>Detecting these watermarks and deleting those images would be a lot of work

reverse image search + file swap was the solution I had in mind. if the watermark also exists in a bunch of results from the search, then its too common to worry about anyway. but, like i said, its not clear to me this method has been used (strangely enough… i mean, if we've thought of it, then you'd think it would have been done by now. perhaps "they" found that it was difficult to track the watermark and gave up on it.)

>One thing MemeClean should do is detect embedded files in images… and strip them out

agreed

>Not sure if you know this, but you can concatenate a zip file to an image and upload it to 8ch

you mean like… pic related? ;)

>I wonder if it stamps something on there like "from 8ch.net", that would be fucking retarded

i would hope not, but after the shit i've seen in those leaks, who knows. i would think /tech/ would have noticed that if so, tho

>>12116784

fucking nice. i had no idea. i'll have to use that in the future when that sort of thing comes up. thx anon

>>12116805

>>12116810

if you're worried about 8ch steg'ing it, then you'd need to upload the original to imgur or whatever for comparison, wouldn't you?

>>12116874

oic nevermind


6056b1  No.12116919

>>12116889

>it would alter all of the macros to have the same hash in order to be anonymous

this can only happen with md5 and that birthday attack, which takes 2-? hours per image. and this only works for md5 sha256/512 would be impossible/infeasible.

>8ch steg'ing it

there's steg analysis tools but they're far from foolproof


6056b1  No.12116965

File: d53df708cbf11b2⋯.png (45.21 KB, 778x512, 389:256, stale_meme.png)

>>12116860

almost have this thing reliable. as a side note this one was posted 1054 times on 4chan. script isn't setup to record which thread it was posted on 8ch, it just scans all active threads and records md5's that match the guid regex. didn't see a point tracking 8ch threads since there's no archive. it's not setup to record all the image names on 4pleb either, because with things like this it would be 100 pages and with the rate limit scraping all of this would take a century.


a222f8  No.12116985

File: a0c10e5981f62eb⋯.jpg (520.85 KB, 1005x1312, 1005:1312, 1519875834778.jpg)

>>12116889

>anonymizing by using a common filename is actually where this whole discussion started

No, the primary problem is that users can be tracked when they post images with the same filename. This is used to expose shills on cuckchan all the time by searching their image filenames on 4plebs.org – randomizing the filename or using an existing filename for the same image hash would eliminate this. Altering the file hash takes this even further.

I just realized that altering the file hash should only be done if random filename is generated. If you grab a filename from an archive based on the same hash, then alter the hash, that filename could be searched and the hashes compared, and it would be obvious you used MemClean to upload the image (though it wouldn't allow you to be tracked the next time you posted the image).

>but over time it could add up. and, the point is not altering the macro but altering it over and over again over time so you're not posting the same image over and over.

You can alter the file hash of JPEGs without touching the image data, thus no recompression occurs. PNGs are lossless, therefore changing the hue of a pixel would not degrade the image. Not sure of the best way to change the hash of a GIF.

>build a database and when anons use the program,

A centralized database would be a huge security vulnerability, is that what you're proposing?

>it would alter all of the macros to have the same hash in order to be anonymous by fitting into the crowd

Changing the filename to one that already exists for that file hash (e.g. choose a random one from a list of all filenames for that image hash on 4plebs) effectively blends you into the crowd. Randomizing the filename and altering the hash make it impossible to track you between posts that use that same image, but it does make the image stand out as unique. Altering the hash to be identical between all images is an interesting idea, but it would also require quite a lot of computing time (several minutes per image?) to calculate what data needs to be added to each file, and it increases the filesize. Also, does this only apply to md5 hashes? If so then the images could be analyzed with other hashing algorithms to detect unique images.

>otherwise, you still have the problem of the same macro with the same hash being posted by one anon over time, thereby allowing tracking

No, you don't. If the filename is taken from a list of files with the same hash, then it could be any anon who viewed the thread where the image was posted who is reposting the image (this is why keeping cuckchan or 8ch filenames is actually more secure than manually renaming your images). If the filename is random, all you could tell is that it's an anon randomizing the filename, there's no way to prove it's the same anon (and the more people who use the program to post images with random names, the larger of a herd there is to blend into).

>Shareblue, PACs, journalists etc would be using reverse image searches to compile data

You can't hide your images from reserve image search without altering the image beyond recognition, those algorithms are based on shapes and colors.

>watermarked images

I'd say don't worry about it until we have evidence of this occurring. Maybe there is software that can scan for these types of things, if so it would be worthwhile running it over a meme directory to see what turns up. If we get to the point of detecting those, then automatically finding replacements from reverse image search that don't have a watermark would be worthwhile implementing for sure.

>if you're worried about 8ch steg'ing it, then you'd need to upload the original to imgur or whatever for comparison, wouldn't you?

The hash between those two images is different, and the original file (cuckchan filename) has the same has as the one on my disk.

>oic

Yeah.


7a031d  No.12117089

>>12116919

>sha256/512 would be impossible/infeasible

yeah, that's why i said "best case." just brainstorming…

>>12116985

I think most of what seems to be a disagreement in this post is actually just a misunderstanding. i don't think we disagree on much. the "posting the same image over and over" stuff was based on the idea of grabbing a filename from a reverse image search, not based on hash, so I think that's where that misunderstanding came from. obviously if we can move from an uncommon filename-hash combo to a common one then we've accomplished our goal

>watermarks

yeah, i'm not too concerned, but its an interesting consideration

so, where to start? for me, generating the new filenames seems like the obvious starting point. what language shall this be programmed in?


a222f8  No.12117132

>>12117089

Unfortunately, Chromium Extensions and Firefox add-ons are written with javascript (absolutely disgusting). For this thing to be really usable though, it needs to be seamlessly integrated into the posting experience, so a browser extension is a must.

There is an open source browser plugin called 4chanX that pops up its own post creation window, including special options for posting images such as using image URLs instead of uploading from disk. We could look at the source and figure out how they replaces the default post creation dialog with its own.

https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x


64cfaf  No.12117133

File: 08d248ee269d171⋯.jpg (59.05 KB, 500x495, 100:99, 2e840a4344e38528b53cfa07f8….jpg)

>>12116073

>pasting code into the shell without reading it first

>trusting any code you found on an imageboard

>not noticing it's fucking javascript anyway


6056b1  No.12117149

>>12117089

could just pick a random filename from the thread your posting on if it's a webext or userscript changing the filename on upload or download. the problem with generating any semi-random filename, even if it collides with anyone else using the tool, is that now you can track who uses the tool, and there won't be that many, not in relation to all of /pol/. if you pick random filenames from /pol/ it might solve that issue. you could then alter the hash in a quick way, to make a unique hash, by appending some random data everytime it's uploaded. you could make the hash match another image on 8ch, but that would be md5 only and that takes atleast 2 hours per image.

there is an advantage to having a matching md5 hash, even if sha256/512 won't match, and that is 8ch provides the md5 in both the html tag and the json, so it can be scraped without having to download the image. if someone wants to record these in bulk, they would have to regularly download every image on 8ch, or /pol/ or whatever board they were tracking, which would likely result in ip bans and games being played, just like 4pleb is doing to me right now with rate limiting. this would hopefully mean they are less likely to be datamining by actually downloading all of the images, and they are just instead collecting the md5's.


6056b1  No.12117160

File: 2e160bbe068a748⋯.png (92.76 KB, 866x483, 866:483, userscript.png)


7ec2a7  No.12117164

>>12117160

Do I just run it from the terminal?


7ec2a7  No.12117204

>>12117133

well, I did it anyway.

so what

I can reinstall if its anything bad

call me crazy


7a031d  No.12117205

>>12117164

i believe that script is meant to be run through your browser by pasting it into the User JS box under Options

>>12117149

i'm not worried about just imageboards, tho. what's wrong with pulling the filename from a reverse image search?

>>12117132

why don't we just concentrate on a script that will work in isolation first, tho – one that committed anons will use? we could add other features later, and work on making it a plugin, once the idea starts to catch on. i still don't see what's wrong with my original idea, except that it could do more


7ec2a7  No.12117208

I'm running a linux distro as my only os


7ec2a7  No.12117212

>>12117205

>i believe that script is meant to be run through your browser by pasting it into the User JS box under Options

oh.

kind of like a greasemonkey script?


6056b1  No.12117221

>>12117164

install tampermonkey or greasemonkey in your browser, it's an addon/extension. then copy paste the script into that.

you may need to change the @include line from

// @include https:/%2F8ch.net/*/res/*

to

// @include https://8ch.net/*/res/*

>>12117212

yes, it's a userscript.

>>12117205

>what's wrong with pulling the filename from a reverse image search?

nothing that would work too, only problem is getting hit with captcha.


7ec2a7  No.12117223

>>12117221

I totally basted it into a new file and ran it in terminal

lel


c5e7ae  No.12117225

File: 6edba419dc0d33b⋯.mp4 (769.25 KB, 360x360, 1:1, 6edba419dc0d33b7db87323824….mp4)

>>12117133

jej

this


7ec2a7  No.12117248

File: 382397993437af9⋯.png (2.17 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, my sides in orbitttttttt.png)


64cfaf  No.12117266

File: d38866566fc6275⋯.jpg (13.82 KB, 240x300, 4:5, gregory peck ahab.jpg)

>tracking Joan


7a031d  No.12117285

>>12117221

>othing that would work too, only problem is getting hit with captcha

i already provided a program that does the searches for you, and a list of sites that aren't google so you won't have to worry about captchas

idk, its difficult since we're all thinking about different types of threats and countermeasures to be taken


e61bae  No.12117330

>>12116567

digital cinema tracking is better. watermark every image and video, on the fly. identify time, date, browser details, ip. etc


e61bae  No.12117344

File: 61cbc888529af67⋯.png (162.99 KB, 1742x636, 871:318, Screen Shot 2018-09-07 at ….png)

>>12117330

https://www.digimarc.com/about/technology/about-digital-watermarking


6056b1  No.12117360

>>12117330

8ch could actually do that in theory, with every file you download.


6056b1  No.12117363

>>12117360

or upload for that matter, but it could be easily hash checked.


e61bae  No.12117382


e61bae  No.12117383

>>12117360

Probably does, tbh.


e8642d  No.12117432

>>12116055

>I've been thinking about posting a thread about this security risk for some months now

and still didn't DO IT, but instead you're here bitching about anons that are DOING IT.

>>>/lainchan/

>This thread and this entire "Joan is using GUIDs to track anons through the filenames" shit is boomer-tech brainlet nonsense.

Which is why we've already caught out shills across MULTIPLE boards with the detector script alone - so

Come up with a better shill tactic lainfaggot


6056b1  No.12117442

>>12117432

have you noticed on new threads your not seeing it anymore? i have no metrics but I feel the shill guids are being posted less since this was called out.


a222f8  No.12117452

File: 92dd0fa76dcff07⋯.jpg (5.08 KB, 211x239, 211:239, 1518250730139.jpg)


7a031d  No.12117470


6056b1  No.12117481

File: 3c6ea6c39ca1093⋯.jpg (18.55 KB, 211x239, 211:239, 92dd0fa76dcff07a2f4f0664d7….jpg)


a222f8  No.12117483

File: 1a7ddfdac5f8bcb⋯.gif (21.41 KB, 618x894, 103:149, 1518928042854.gif)

>>12117442

>I feel the shill guids are being posted less since this was called out.


e8642d  No.12117494

>>12117442

I've noticed that too anon, it's definitely slowed down. There are also hostile replies for getting called out about it.

It's afraid


e8642d  No.12117496

replies to previous bread

>>12115870

>>>12115525 (You)

>this script is fine,

The script was meant for single use when you're going to post an image, so you don't have to change or mess with your own filenaming system. It is something like scrubbing metadata before uploading that file, but for an image.

>>12115880

>upscaling and downscaling could be easily scripted, gotta test but that should wipe out the steg

It also converts from the initial format to jpg, so may also scrub steg.

>>12114373

ty anon


e8642d  No.12117550

File: 68e30347a17b474⋯.png (170.35 KB, 1335x1141, 1335:1141, crashing-joans-data-with-n….png)

another idea to screw her data is

- collect images (done)

- collect guids (done)

-post images reattached to different collected guids

-profit??

They use & expect Image-to-GUID to be a one-to-many relationship, which they use to monitor which thread post test was 'successful'. So, what if we fucked with that - changing it to a many-to-many relationship?


e8642d  No.12117557

>>12117550

the bonus is we could run the scraper into a Joan-shitpost-data folder, and then randomly post an image from it.


a222f8  No.12117572

File: 4746aca28c21a72⋯.png (82.23 KB, 842x792, 421:396, 1518295934494.png)

>>12117550

How do you save an image on 4chan with the GUID as the filename?


6056b1  No.12117599

>>12117550

i think the goal should be to discourage the sharing of easily trackable filenames. putting out a bunch of fake guid's is going to fuck with that. besides they also have the md5 for comparison. they can't rely on the md5 only though if they're reposting old meme's, because then their data would get fucked when some random anon posts theirs, they need both.


a222f8  No.12117605


6056b1  No.12117606

>>12117550

once it's out there and they have the 8ch unique file id, which is based on the hash, the guid may only serve to filter out their own shitposts from the data.


e8642d  No.12117608

>12117572

take your slow IQ back to slowlain

no (you) for (you) faggot

>>12117599

>besides they also have the md5 for comparison

that's why we're attempting MD5 clashes


a222f8  No.12117615

>>12117608

>so angry he can't even quote a post properly

Answer me faggot: How do you save an image with the GUID filename on 4chan? Images with those filenames have been appearing on 4chan for at least a year.


6056b1  No.12117622

>>12117608

just filter this joan intern until it goes away


a222f8  No.12117624

>>12117622

How do you save images with GUID filenames on 4chan?


a222f8  No.12117672

File: 008bd6488c459ed⋯.jpg (287.66 KB, 1145x1080, 229:216, 1483094574368.jpg)

File: aaac59eb65530a3⋯.jpg (158.89 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, 1483160362001.jpg)

>>12117608

>>12117622

"GUID" filenames are NOT new

30 December 2016:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/105053676/#105055644

30 December 2016:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/105053676/#105055491

They have been posted to 4chan since at least December of 2016.


6056b1  No.12117683

/pol/ GUID images -> 4chan archive results

608 8ch images matching the guid (all guid images on /pol/ at start of scrape), md5's bounced against 4pleb archives for matches.

89% of guid images are OC, at least by the only metric available, 4pleb archives.


17/608 (3%) 100+ matches
44/608 (7%) 10+ matches
67/608 (11%) 1+ matches
541/608 (89%) 0 matches

full results in csv

https://ghostbin.com/paste/zpsw5


6056b1  No.12117696

File: 3a4c599f8bc6c4c⋯.jpeg (127.61 KB, 790x960, 79:96, 1.jpeg)

File: a093daa6dc441df⋯.jpeg (63.47 KB, 539x682, 49:62, 2.jpeg)

File: 7ae2e9b6ec64593⋯.jpeg (96.56 KB, 720x471, 240:157, 3.jpeg)

File: c83c364f8579508⋯.jpeg (25.39 KB, 173x320, 173:320, 4.jpeg)

>>12117683

top 4 matches

1 - 13,015

2 - 12,612

3 - 12,087

4 - 11,709


6056b1  No.12117710

>>12117683

other interesting anomalies in the data. some of these matched though they shouldn't have, the regex was too lenient, but it raises even further questions to the iphone claim, the differences are minimal, it's just more data tacked on in the filename.

574CB2DD-C7AD-4080-B8AC-80E6D1A8C39E_w1080_h608.jpg

D59F3925-BBAB-4F83-A4EE-F909FFFD56BC-1825-000002B4237F156D.jpeg

111D87C9-F2E0-4E69-8489-47EBFA96D6E2-7020-000003656080D942.jpeg

A0903587-980C-494B-9B4B-B511333DA28D-3658-000003609EB3B09A_tmp.png

4fc80bf1-a078-433d-a61f-0cd67d57c117_1.9a8b3f27fa32962fb62db2ea1ae69b15.jpeg

868a59b9-5916-4f6c-9ee2-618d7ad36894_1.b3c7320efe8e9dc5f26ae8a1790c63d9.jpeg

several of these look like

908F30CE-8FFF-475D-900C-2CFF61F266A6deleted

this is due to the way the filenames were formed, the json api does not give a full filename, it's split between the filename and the extension, the script combined them as filename+ext. 8ch json reported these files with ext="deleted"


a222f8  No.12117753

File: 08c3a5f14256f4e⋯.jpg (29.96 KB, 720x480, 3:2, 1519367801003.jpg)

>>12117683

>>12117696

Zero search results for any of those four images with those "GUID" filenames on 4plebs. All you did was prove that the images posted here with the "GUIDs" are images that were saved from 4chan. Explain to us how this is indicative of anything nefarious even in the slightest.

>89% of guid images are OC

Whose OC? The anon who posted the image file with a GUID filename (hint: they aren't)? Do you even know what OC means?

>it's just more data tacked on in the filename

Wow, it's almost as if software random data to filenames when moving files around or manipulating them.

It's literally fucking nothing. I thought you were a shill, but now I'm pretty sure you're just a low functioning autist.


e61bae  No.12117777


f4d4fc  No.12117780

>>12116476

>Posted in different threads

Retard I post same images in different threads all the time, it's called a reaction image.


e61bae  No.12117781

ok, kek confirms, filenames are used for tracking purposes


a222f8  No.12117783

>>12117777

Wasted quads. Disgusting.

Answer the fucking question faggot: How do you save an image from 4chan with the "GUID" filename?


e8642d  No.12117820

File: e85486648b45e33⋯.jpg (508.47 KB, 2404x2000, 601:500, 4girlsnice quads.jpg)

>>12117777

quads of truth checked.

>>12117710

No further info found for the 8-4-4-4-12-4-16 format, indicates it is a bespoke use case.


bfdf60  No.12117978

>>12116027

>GUIDEN

mein sides


e8642d  No.12118062

>>12117978

I should have called that theme final shillution in hindsight


d3410a  No.12118086

>>12116023

>people storing images in a hashmap database are shills, not just non-retarded non-computer-illiterate brainlets

This is the most retarded phenomenon I have ever seen in my life. And I thought not all /pol/ users were as dumb as a rock. How wrong was I…


f0e1c7  No.12118100

>>12118086

good morning fat sister!


50541d  No.12118131

>>12117783

>replying to anon who have filtered you

>constantly pining for attention

>nothing but skepticism and D&C

You seem upset

FILTERED


e8642d  No.12118192

>>12118131

also

>ignores fact that shills have already been caught out by this detection method, not only on /pol/ but other boards too

>shilling using this guid method has noticeably decreased

>shilling about this way of exposing shills has noticeably increased


a222f8  No.12118538

>>12118131

>nothing but skepticism and D&C

I've spent half the thread laying out a spec for an application that anonymizes image data for anons to use for improving their opsec.

>>12118192

>shills have already been caught out by this detection method

No, they haven't, because shills are not using "GUIDs" as image filenames to accomplish anything. Why don't you explain what those shills are using those "GUID" filenames for?

>shilling using this guid method has noticeably decreased

There have been hundreds of posts on 4chan this morning with images that have "GUID"


a222f8  No.12118555

>>12118538

Accidentally hit new reply before was done writing my post.

>There have been hundreds of posts on 4chan this morning with images that have "GUID"

filenames. How do I know this? Because I've been on 4/pol/ looking for them and asking those anons what devices they were using to post. All of them that responded said they were on an iPhone, and one of them specified that they were using Chrome. He said he looked at the files in a file browser and they had the original filenames he had saved the images as (e.g. cuckchan filenames) and that they only received the new "GUID" filename after posting an image (it happened at some point during the upload).

>shilling about this way of exposing shills has noticeably increased

Again, what are these alleged shills using these "GUID" filenames for?

Answer this: How do you save an image on cuckchan with the GUID filename?


05a97e  No.12118568

Why do we assume that Fat Sister is incompetent simply because she seems to be? Why do we assume that Fat Sister is telling the truth in her videos?

There are so many ways to have done this that would have been undetectable that either she is incompetent or instead perhaps the entire purpose of this endeavour was to create a chilling effect on the spread of information.

The purpose being not the tracking of that information, but to create self censorship in those that would otherwise spread it.


a222f8  No.12118572

File: ffcaf0629ec5500⋯.jpg (146.8 KB, 1024x571, 1024:571, 1517757280781.jpg)

>>12118086

>This is the most retarded phenomenon I have ever seen in my life.

I honestly can't tell if we're being trolled, if this is some kind of weird shilling tactic, or if these anons are genuinely this retarded. It's Poe's law for me.

The most embarrassing thing of all? Cuckchan has already moved on from this. This entire "Joan and the GUIDs" nonsense started on cuckchan, and it's already died on cuckchan, probably because the number of mobile posters on iPhone there is so high that it was plainly obvious that the anons posting with those filenames are just regular shitposters.


88ef83  No.12118582

>>12118538

>going on shitchan

Next time stay there


88ef83  No.12118590

>>12118555

You're saying this as if iPhone posters are any better.


a222f8  No.12118596

>>12118568

>There are so many ways to have done this that would have been undetectable that either she is incompetent

But what is the theory for what she was allegedly trying to accomplish with these "GUID" filenames? You can't track users with unique filenames if no one saves the images with those filenames. On cuckchan there is no way to save the image with the filename it was uploaded unless you manually copy paste the "GUID" filename (which you can't even properly select in the browser as it's truncated due to its length).

>The purpose being not the tracking of that information, but to create self censorship in those that would otherwise spread it.

It's entirely possible this entire thing was orchestrated by that fat bitch just to waste our time and sow fear and paranoia, as you stated. That's literally more likely to be the case.


a222f8  No.12118607

File: 8a2223c4431c802⋯.jpg (42.89 KB, 540x482, 270:241, 5407ca78a71826bdae2ff30ba2….jpg)

>>12118582

Get out of my thread normal cattle. This discussion is way above your head.

>>12118590

You're saying this as if your posts are any better than iPhone posters.


e8642d  No.12118657

>>12118538

>>shills have already been caught out by this detection method

>No, they haven't,

Like you'd fucking know - because your D&C ass sure as fuck wasn't on that board. I know they have because unlike your lainfag lamefag ass I and other anons called them out for it using the guid dectector and they bolted.

>>shilling using this guid method has noticeably decreased

>There have been hundreds of posts on 4chan this morning with images that have "GUID"

>b-but guids are still being used on retarded honeypot-chan

honeypot-cuckchan isn't infinitychan lainfag.

(44) and still bitching that we shouldn't be doing what we're doing. Truth quads called you out, yet you persist.


05a97e  No.12118676

>>12118596

This has already been covered in the other place. Go North for the answer. The ID can be generated from the image no matter the filename. It creates a chain of custody so to speak. The conceit being that its "legal" proof its the same image.


a222f8  No.12118689

File: f3da8c09257fa39⋯.gif (1.94 MB, 500x500, 1:1, 1533830668661.gif)

>>12116889

>>Not sure if you know this, but you can concatenate a zip file to an image and upload it to 8ch

>you mean like… pic related? ;)

Actually, no, I don't mean like pic related. You can actually create a .zip archive then cat the .zip archive onto the end of a .jpg. The .jpg will look the same when viewed in a browser (no random pixels as in the image you posted), and after you download the .jpg you can simply run unzip on it and the .zip archive at the end of the .jpg file will be automatically detected and unzipped, no need to rename or resave the file etc.


a222f8  No.12118718

>>12118657

>I and other anons called them out for it using the guid dectector and they bolted.

They probably just thought you were autistic and stopped responding to you, anon.

>honeypot-cuckchan isn't infinitychan lainfag.

Why are thousands of "GUID" filename images posted to cuckhan if they aren't trying to implement their scheme there?

>>12118676

>The ID can be generated from the image no matter the filename.

Prove it. Also, this idea doesn't even make any sense, walk us through how this is done and why.


05a97e  No.12118730

>>12118718

I already told you exactly where to look for the entire answer. Won't do more than that.


068710  No.12118735

>>12116093

They're not shills they're just retarded and easily misled. possibly boomers


c032d5  No.12118760

>>12117483

>>12117452

>cuckchan wojaks

>lainfagging

hmm


a222f8  No.12118762

>>12118730

Link it newfag, or explain your theory properly. I don't have time for your scavenger hunt bullshit.

>>12118735

I think the boomer-tech hypothesis is valid.

>>12118760

>cancer posting


e4be06  No.12118787

>>12118762

You think that's a scavenger hunt? You attempt to use social pressure to get cooperation from autists? The hills are alive with the sounds of shilling.


a222f8  No.12118816

File: 55106282a273857⋯.jpg (155.98 KB, 512x512, 1:1, 1535985918629.jpg)

>>12118787

>You attempt to use social pressure to get cooperation from autists?

What did he mean by this?


068710  No.12118833

>>12118718

>>12118730

GUIDs can be generated based on a file's contents

https://betterexplained.com/articles/the-quick-guide-to-guids/

But you can't track users with a GUID really, you can only keep track of how often an image is uploaded and where it is uploaded to. If you had access to the uploader's IP, then sure you could track someone. But only the site admins can see your IP, so the only way you could effectively track the user is if you're Jim or codemonkey or a global vol. Of course a lot of posters probably don't have complete trust in the admins so naturally most of us post using VPNs, which make it next-to impossible for a third party to track what you are posting on 8chan. Most of the GUIDs that are being posted are probably not someone's attempt to track imageboard activity, but are instead probably the filenames generated based on the time of the image's creation and their hardware or something. GUIDs aren't necessarily unique, either. So even though it is unlikely that two different people will randomly generate the same GUID, there's no guarantee that this will never happen.

In other words, all the tech-illiterate boomers need to stop losing their shit over hexadecimal numbers that "seem suspicious"


997dfa  No.12118843

>>12118538

>>12118555

As it is clearly impossible to download images and retain their original (GUID/UUID) filename on 4ch, the only reasonable explanation I have is that hostile actors compile huge collections of meme images and use these filenames internally for tracking purposes. Once the image is posted online, they track the post url for responses and the filename loses its purpose.


997dfa  No.12118848

>>12116341

> if there is some program to detect anomalies in images

stop thinking in terms of programs and start thinking in terms of algorithms. if a program does not exist, you fucking make it. but that is not the point. read research papers and understand the choices the authors made in development of their techniques. apply a language you know to build a program which utilizes their algorithm.


997dfa  No.12118859

>>12116730

>would there still be a way for (((them))) to search for their watermark, even after you've modified the hue or whatnot?

I am not convinced that there is a reliable way to analyze images for their watermark. However one thing you could try is to search for old versions of a meme and perform a diff with newer ones to see which pixels have been modified. This is an unreliable method due to compressor artifacts, but it might work in some cases.


997dfa  No.12118869

>>12118859

Even if you obtain a clear set of modified pixels, you will probably not be able to decode the message contained within.

Thus the only solution is a watermark corruption tool. I proposed this earlier using super resolution neural networks. These networks would modify large amounts of pixel values randomly due to the inherent entropy of the neural network feed forward process while retaining close to original image quality.


e8642d  No.12118885

File: 9b000f660fe6642⋯.png (1.18 MB, 800x1280, 5:8, pepepaperback03TheTurnerDi….png)

>>12118689

> You can actually create a .zip archive then cat the .zip archive onto the end of a .jpg

Here's one I did with a PDF appended to a PNG. All you need to do is save the original image and rename it to extension PDF instead of PNG. Then open to read the book.

Part of a pepe paperback book series.


a222f8  No.12118887

>>12118833

>GUIDs can be generated based on a file's contents

You're talking about associating a GUID with the hash of a file. We know for a fact that that's not what is going on since the same images with identical hashes have been posted dozens of times to 4chan and they have a unique GUID each time. There is also absolutely no reason to generate a GUID associated with the file hash to track the spread of an image anyways, since you can just calculate the file's hash instead. Go to 4plebs.org and you can search for images based on their md5 hash, just drag and drop the image onto the relevant field.

>But you can't track users with a GUID really, you can only keep track of how often an image is uploaded and where it is uploaded to.

Yeah, the problem with the theory that this is the intended purpose of the GUIDs is that almost no one is saving them with the GUID filename in the first place. It's not an option on 4chan, and you have to go out of your way to do so on 8ch.

>In other words, all the tech-illiterate boomers need to stop losing their shit over hexadecimal numbers that "seem suspicious"

This. They need to stop shitting up our board with their boomer-tech paranoia. It reminds me of this guy I knew a long time ago that was convinced his computer was being reinfected with a virus that had embedded itself in his monitor and would (somehow) travel through the VGA cable.

>>12118843

>hostile actors compile huge collections of meme images and use these filenames internally for tracking purposes

A more likely hypothesis than the one proposed in OP. Now see if you can find some evidence to support your hypothesis. This doesn't seem likely to me for a number of reasons, but go ahead and present your evidence.


997dfa  No.12118892

>>12117330

>>12117360

>>12117363

>>12117382

>>12117383

What we need is a watermark corruption tool. A tool which randomizes many pixel values at random without corrupting the perceptual quality of the original image. This kills the watermark/steganography.


a222f8  No.12118899

>>12118885

Nice. I do find it concerning that 8ch allows images like that to be uploaded though, to be honest. Images from here could be crammed with CP or other illegal shit and you would never know it. If you try to upload images of that nature to 4chan they are automatically detected and blocked.


997dfa  No.12118903

>>12116628

>you're a fucking retard if you think that HR departments don't use facebook data in determining hires

Please link to additional references so we can learn more about this subject. Or shut the fuck up.


997dfa  No.12118909

>>12117550

>So, what if we fucked with that - changing it to a many-to-many relationship?

Already done. The code works too. >>12116037


997dfa  No.12118915

>>12116186

coming from the C family at first I got a stroke. however, maximizing use of exception handling is the pythonic way because of how branch optimization works in python specifically. if statements are more expensive than try: except. learn to love it.


997dfa  No.12118928

>>12118915

reference: https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html?highlight=eafp#term-eafp


000000  No.12118949

>>12118833

Jim and CM are infinitely more trustworthy than 4cuck which has a history of being confirmed cucks and more than most any other website outside the deepweb. The proof is right here and their transparency reports, which they don't have to do but do anyway on principle. That's amazing for anyone with a website these days.

So worry less about Jim and CM and more about the rest of the internet which is pozzed to hell.


a222f8  No.12118963

File: 24d1766288f9f88⋯.jpg (414.45 KB, 1048x1354, 524:677, 24d1766288f9f887236ce0b4f1….jpg)

>>12118843

Here is why I think your hypothesis is unlikely to be correct:

>the GUID filenames have been appearing on 4/pol/ since at least December 2016

>the anons who post images with GUID filenames do not include an image in every single post they make, therefore it can't be the case that these images are being used to keep track of a shill's work for calculation of total posts made etc.

>there are dozens and dozens of anecdotal reports from anons that these filenames are the result of posting with an iOS device, going back to January of this year

>the vast majority of posts made with images featuring GUID filenames are not shill-like in any way, they're mostly just casual shitposting that fits with the board culture

>there are easier ways to keep track of a user's posts if the intent to track the amount of shill posting done by an employee

Occam's razor points to these filenames simply being the result of some software running on users' devices.


e8642d  No.12118966

>>12118909

>>So, what if we fucked with that - changing it to a many-to-many relationship?

>Already done. The code works too

ty anon. I'd missed the updated version of that script (and I thought the initial version was using a different filename namespace like 000…FFF)


997dfa  No.12118980

>>12118966

>ty anon. I'd missed the updated version of that script (and I thought the initial version was using a different filename namespace like 000…FFF)

No, as you can see the updated version of that script starts with small hexadecimal strings like single digits or letters and iterates the value, skipping some if there is already an existing file of that name (very unlikely, but worth checking for)


98dd62  No.12118984

>>12116055

Nice try hamplanet cuck. She let you fuck her rolls or something?


50541d  No.12118995

>>12118887

>You're talking about associating a GUID with the hash of a file. We know for a fact that that's not what is going on

we know for a fact?

>since the same images with identical hashes have been posted dozens of times to 4chan and they have a unique GUID each time

which would have nothing to do with Jabba the Hut… I mean Joan using her own internal GUID list (at least for when these images first get posted


50541d  No.12119003

>>12118887

>Now see if you can find some evidence to support your hypothesis. This doesn't seem likely to me for a number of reasons, but go ahead and present your evidence.

NEVERMIND ITS THE "MUH PROOF" FAGGOT


a222f8  No.12119015

File: 7667cee385ff95e⋯.gif (2.86 MB, 473x400, 473:400, 7667cee385ff95ebbe1a813234….gif)

>>12118995

>we know for a fact?

Yes, we know for a fact that one GUID is not associated with one file hash.

>Joan using her own internal GUID list

Okay, but why?

>>12119003

You don't even have a consistent hypothesis let alone any proof. What are you even trying to accomplish besides spreading fear?

>>12118984

fucking kek


997dfa  No.12119030

IN the current globally-connected society, where access and distribution of digital multimedia files is ubiquitous and pervasive, virtual opportunities to pirate copyrighted files are in a permanent rise. As a consequence, finding protection methods to block or detect any unauthorized access and keep data transmission safe and secure has become one of the most important challenge during the past decades. Digital watermarking is one method that has been developed in order to protect ownership of data, digital content protection and transaction tracking so that illegal use, modification and distribution of the content can be detected. In this regard, the purpose of digital watermarking is to embed or hide some invisible additional information, called watermark, into another signal such as image, audio or video, known as a host or cover where the visual quality of the embedded host signal should not be significantly degraded. To be effective, watermark detection and extraction should be possible after applying a variety of manipulations and attacks while meeting some criteria in terms of imperceptibility, robustness, security and payload, which are often interdependent.

In general terms, the imperceptibility of a watermark refers to the perceptual similarity between the original and water- marked version of the host data. This is important so as to keep the degradation of host quality to a minimum, so no obvious difference in the fidelity between the original and watermarked hosts can be noticed [1]. Robustness is a measure of the watermarking methods resistance against different types of attacks, for instance, compression, additive noise, etc., are the types of attacks accrue in digital signal processing [1]. Payload refers to the total amount of information that can be hidden within the digital media [2]. The purpose of increasing watermarking payload is to find how transmit more information while satisfying both watermarking robustness and imperceptibility requirements [3]. In particular, the most challenging issue is how to address the trade-off between robustness and imperceptibility, since enhancing robustness implies necessarily increasing the watermark strength and therefore produces a loss of transparency [4].Finding such an optimized solution still remains a challenge within the watermarking community.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8259288/


997dfa  No.12119043

Digital audio, video, images, and documents are flying through cyberspace to their respective owners. Unfortunately, along the way, individuals may choose to intervene and take this content for themselves. Digital watermarking and steganography technology greatly reduces the instances of this by limiting or eliminating the ability of third parties to decipher the content that he has taken. The many techiniques of digital watermarking (embedding a code) and steganography (hiding information) continue to evolve as applications that necessitate them do the same. The authors of this second edition provide an update on the framework for applying these techniques that they provided researchers and professionals in the first well-received edition. Steganography and steganalysis (the art of detecting hidden information) have been added to a robust treatment of digital watermarking, as many in each field research and deal with the other. New material includes watermarking with side information, QIM, and dirty-paper codes.

https://www.elsevier.com/books/digital-watermarking-and-steganography/cox/978-0-12-372585-1


50541d  No.12119061

>>12119015

>Joan using her own internal GUID list

>Okay, but why?

Research purposes?

A master list where her unique GUID shows where the image was first disseminated, and from that point on they use hashes or metadata for the actual tracking?

Listen I went back over this thread.

Your intentions SEEM pure, and because of your points I refuse to use that script-detector, but as a rule of thumb shying away from weird GUID images is not a bad idea.

You keep asking fro proof but the fat bitch herself said they were using GUID to track images (she's probably full of shit and a con artist but regardless)

The way you keep carrying on about this makes you look like at worst a shiil & at best an autistic sperg.

Plus you sound like the "muh proof" fag who has shitted up threads before with hundreds of "MUH PROOFS" posts even thought the thread subject in particular was supposition in nature.


d6e505  No.12119066

File: b230e5fe75e59a3⋯.png (205.03 KB, 500x632, 125:158, idiot.PNG)

>>12117204

How would you know if did, "anything bad", you mongoloid? Too stupid to know that it's JS, but the skills in finding indicators of compromise is turned all the way up?


50541d  No.12119070

>>12119015

>>12119061

In other words, give it a rest.

And if you're this knowledgeable, why don't you write a add-on for firefox and post to github?

I'm lucky if I can write a basic arithmetic function.


e8642d  No.12119074

http://guid.us/

is a useful site I came across but forgot to post. It has demo code for guid creation in a few languages (not python)


997dfa  No.12119075

>>12117204

Stop being fucking stupid kthx


a222f8  No.12119082

File: 925176f7897a1f0⋯.gif (949.41 KB, 500x282, 250:141, 925176f7897a1f0e7bde7dae70….gif)

>>12119061

>her unique GUID shows where the image was first disseminated

Every image I've searched so far that was posted with a GUID filename was first posted with a non-GUID filename, so they are not disseminating unique images.

>from that point on they use hashes or metadata for the actual tracking?

Tracking what?

>the fat bitch herself said they were using GUID to track images

Really, where?

>The way you keep carrying on about this makes you look like at worst a shiil & at best an autistic sperg.

Funny, that's the way I view your posts.

>"MUH PROOFS"

Why should anyone take your ideas seriously if they have no provable basis in reality?


9d46d4  No.12119083

>>12117266 checked

My sides.


5dc327  No.12119112

>>12116055

>>12116065

The coordinated attack in trying to disprove that GUID can't happen is making me more suspcious than anything else.

Smell like fat sister is doing a coordinated disinformation campaign.


d6e505  No.12119135

>>12119112

Why is /pol/ so wrapped around the axle about GUIDs? It's a sequence of numbers that mean nothing except to the developer. You can use whatever scheme you want for unique identification.

What needs to happen is finding out information on how it's implemented (ie, the "app"), and then do whatever to disrupt operations. Instead, a vast amount of time is being wasted on the spec itself.


a222f8  No.12119140

>>12119112

>coordinated attack

>one anon who disagrees with the boomer-tier hypothesis

Take a deep breath, anon.

>trying to disprove that GUID can't happen

What do you think is happening?

>>12119135

>disrupt operations

What operation do you think is being conducted? Why do you think there's an operation?


288bda  No.12119181

>>12119082

>How do you do, fellow anonymous? You see, I too have an anime picture to share on this image sharing website. Oh, what mirth!


997dfa  No.12119188

File: f53553f33cc8243⋯.jpg (278.84 KB, 1275x1650, 17:22, imperceptible corruption 2.jpg)

File: a224758f65be1cd⋯.jpg (314.74 KB, 1275x1650, 17:22, imperceptible corruption 1.jpg)

It is likely that any potential watermarks are fucked up if you draw random samples from a normal (Gaussian) distribution and add them to either the luminance channel of the image or the entire image itself. Examples attached.


5dc327  No.12119214

>>12119135

>What do you think is happening?

Because Fat sister's scheme is up and tries to safe her hard work?

You can use an original GUID file name and if people upload it on certain forums like invision power the filename remains the same, so makes sense you use a weird filename and add the tracing code in the image itself also. She looks too lazy to rename her image files for image boards.

You also don't use sage, which should be obvious if you try to get these threads to disapear.

You guys attack in every thread where where pictures getting posted. Sure it can be >>>/cow/ posters.

You guys ID hop fast and defend eachother with different ID'S raising suspicion.

You call everyone chills even when >>>/pol/ is the most paranoid board in chan culture existence. And of course your tactics are extremely odd.

Last but not least you all seems emotionally invested in this shit… almost as if your gig is up? Q larpers and Alex Jones posters are annoying but I wouldn't get emotionally invested to get rid of them.


a222f8  No.12119236

File: 1ce0c99f27e59fb⋯.gif (1.71 MB, 500x500, 1:1, 1527223872821.gif)


5dc327  No.12119330

File: ddd1cbc71e97e1d⋯.jpg (260.4 KB, 660x531, 220:177, JoanwatchingwithEXRAGUID.jpg)

>>12119236

Ok I'm not an expert in coding however, I downloaded Op's image and opened it with notepad++ and added a GUID at the end of the code in the image from https://www.guidgen.com/.

As you can see if you have notepad++ I don't need to enter the GUID in the title. I can simply add it in the image code.

My theory is that fat sister and co, are too retarded to change her Image file names on chan boards and thinks it was smart to include the GUID inside the title.

Anyways she is either retarded or we getting trolled. Since you don't have to add the GUID in the file name.

I assume if she did it, it's because they wanted to make it easy for them and are too lazy to search for GUID inside every image.


a2ecbb  No.12119360

File: d2c158ca24a5908⋯.jpg (4.37 KB, 125x86, 125:86, 1511783015136.jpg)

If I download one of those JoanPics and open it in the sandbox, I should be able to find the tracker, right?


5dc327  No.12119362

>>12119330

Now that I think of it you can proof this, if you search for the GUID of the original image title name inside the image code.


d6e505  No.12119364

>>12119140

Military jargon, anon. I can't help but think that way.

>>12119214

I talk different because I'm a lurker. Not emotionally invested, but care to some level of success. So far I see a script that identifies a GUID (and nothing but), paranoid anons who can't into computer but somehow know how it's implemented. I'm here pointing out that you don't know exactly what it means or does. You don't know if the GUID is they only identifier for images.

>tracing code

And exactly what is "tracing code", anon? Some abstract black magic similar to your understanding of how computers work?

>sage

Damned if I do, or don't use it. I don't ID hop but that won't matter to you either. It's a pointless argument.

Just stick to the content, not what you think of me. GUIDs or any other unique identifier is only useful if tied into other data points. You can see this if you read more into databases and information design.


5dc327  No.12119369

>>12119360

Yeah it should be same as the image guid title.


997dfa  No.12119373

>>12119360

No, you will not be able to find any trackers. Only tell-tale signs of their existence.


5dc327  No.12119390

>>12119373

I guess they can scramble the guid inside an image?


997dfa  No.12119395

>>12119390

GUID is independent of image.


a2ecbb  No.12119400

>>12119373

Can't we dissect the code and find out where the return script was sending info?


997dfa  No.12119401

>>12119390

read this >>12119030 >>12119043


997dfa  No.12119408

>>12119400

what script


a2ecbb  No.12119422

>>12119408

I would assume there is an .exe that rune when the image is opened, no?


997dfa  No.12119432

>>12119422

no, there is no executable code within the images. there is likely a hidden watermark though.


d6e505  No.12119464

>>12119422

No, unless the image exploits a vulnerability in whatever application opens it.

Having a GUID as your main (or primary) data point for identifying images is stupid. Anyone can modify it and most likely screw up whatever data harvesting is done. This would show inexperience on the developer's part. I doubt she is tracking any and all images that follow a GUID (via regular expression, or whatever), because all we would have to do is name all our maymays into GUID filenames.


997dfa  No.12119479

>>12119464

>No, unless the image exploits a vulnerability in whatever application opens it.

Probably useful in boutique targeted operations, not mass surveillance.


d6e505  No.12119497

>>12119479

It's way off than her intention. You would have to assume everyone uses the same image viewer to get any benefit, or be so l33t you would exploit a particular library (like imagemagick) that most applications use.


50541d  No.12119510

>>12119082

>Every image I've searched so far that was posted with a GUID filename was first posted with a non-GUID filename, so they are not disseminating unique images.

Show the matching hashes for said examples.

Do you have evidence?


997dfa  No.12119512

>>12119497

That's exactly why I don't think there is any executable/exploit code in these images.

Rather, there may be hidden watermarks.


d6e505  No.12119554

>>12119512

Maybe, but you need to know what schema is being used. If it were me, I would look into the most common, low-fruit, turnkey solution where a developer can use it and is documented.

If you mean something like stenography, then you can get a good idea on whatever is detectable by using stegotool. You can run it on Kali if you want. It's a fuzzy guess and can lead to false positives, but it may be useful if you have a large collection to go through (hundreds to thousands).


a2ecbb  No.12119556

>>12119512

> there may be hidden watermarks.

what good could come of that (for Big Sister)?


997dfa  No.12119565

>>12119556

Accurate tracking of information propagation on multiple platforms is of excellent intelligence gathering utility


a2ecbb  No.12119578

>>12119565

So they're tracking the methodology, flow, speed and consistency of the information (meme) as opposed to those who are involved.

That would mean they want to control the flow.


e8642d  No.12119580

File: 64bd70a92447521⋯.png (85.39 KB, 514x631, 514:631, ClipboardImage.png)

rolling again as the script seems like it went down a dead end (according to the readme), so taking a step back since it didn't output progress for the past two days.


a2ecbb  No.12119602

File: d82a0c3a33e0f40⋯.png (86.29 KB, 884x342, 442:171, JewMonopolyInformation.PNG)

>>12119565

From The International Jew - Henry Ford

I'd say we have a fight on our hands, boys! They aren't going to give up on this.


8a4313  No.12119605

>>12119556

>what good could come of that (for Big Sister)?

<You download funny compromised meme

<You upload compromised meme on kikebook

<They know you are a channer?

Anyways doesn't this have flaws?

Since you can upload the compromised Image on 9gag and all normies would download it and upload it on their kikebook.


a222f8  No.12119606

>>12119510

>Show the matching hashes for said examples.

>Do you have evidence?

Yes, read the thread. From my second post:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/Fel0ncE4Wuejkg8PIclDog/

That is a search by image hash on 4plebs.org. The first time it appeared was on August 17 with the filename 'qt314.jpg', and has since been reposted with GUID filenames as well as the filename 'Bookstore Jezebel.jpg'.

>>12119360

>If I download one of those JoanPics and open it in the sandbox, I should be able to find the tracker, right?

No, there is no "tracker" and so fare there hasn't even been any evidence of modification of the image files at all. Just the name of the file is changed, not the data. You can prove this to yourself by search for the image's hash on 4plebs.org to see how many times the same image has been uploaded to 4chan.

>>12119512

>there may be hidden watermarks.

Can't add a hidden watermark without changing the file hash.


997dfa  No.12119625

>>12119605

>Since you can upload the compromised Image on 9gag and all normies would download it and upload it on their kikebook.

So now you know the particular meme is effective.

This works perfectly hand-in-hand with the Jewish meme laboratories. With this method they will have performance and impact metrics.

Once you obtain metrics you can build an automated model for maximum psychological manipulation. This is sinister as fuck.


50541d  No.12119629

>>12119606

So because they have been posted in the past without a (((GUID))) then its IMPOSSIBLE that they would start tracking usage of said image later?


5dc327  No.12119640

>>12119606

Have to agree Checked some myself. don't see anything weird in the images that claim to be altered.


a222f8  No.12119647

>>12119629

>start tracking usage of said image later?

Using what?


50541d  No.12119652

>>12119647

THE HASH NIGGER

Stop being so obtuse


997dfa  No.12119654

>>12119606

>Can't add a hidden watermark without changing the file hash.

Actually they can especially with md5 as another anon demonstrated before. But the file length would mismatch. Unless you have a quantum supercomputer than can transform an image so it has the same hash and the same file length but contains a different pixel arrangement.


997dfa  No.12119657

>>12119629

Negative, any image may have an invisible watermark. We don't know the scope of the problem until we build a reliable detection tool.


a222f8  No.12119661

>>12119652

Why would they need to post the image with a GUID filename to track the image by hash?


d6e505  No.12119663

>>12118899

You mean like the polyglot I created in >>11699862 ? I'd say it's possible :^)


5dc327  No.12119666

>>12119629

>So because they have been posted in the past without a (((GUID))) then its IMPOSSIBLE that they would start tracking usage of said image later?

The code needs to be altered in some way of the image. if the code is the same as the original image their is nothing wrong.

As far as I know.


997dfa  No.12119671

>>12119661

I think we are assuming the GUID filename leak is just an OPSEC failure.


50541d  No.12119672

>>12119661

Why do you keep answering question with a question?


a222f8  No.12119673

>>12119663

>I'd say it's possible :^)

You'd say what is possible?


997dfa  No.12119678

>>12119672

Because it's a fed. Read all posts by that id to see what I mean.


5dc327  No.12119685

>>12119666

unless the original code is compromised.


997dfa  No.12119687

>>12119672

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.


d6e505  No.12119695

>>12119673

Hiding files within images, anon. That post is proof. Went right through without a block.


e8642d  No.12119703

>>12119654

>so it has the same hash and the same file length but contains a different pixel arrangement.

I'm autistic enough to be attempting this at the moment…only for md5 obviously


997dfa  No.12119711

>>12119703

I would not go down this road. Instead, research what is known as "blind detection for image steganography"


50541d  No.12119715

>>12119678

I have

The motherfucker does nothing but BUT DATS IMPOSSIBLE

Plus here >>12119082

>the fat bitch herself said they were using GUID to track images

<<Really, where?

In the 3 youtube videos from the first thread


50541d  No.12119728

>>12119678

I have

The motherfucker does nothing but BUT DATS IMPOSSIBLE

Plus here >>12119082

>the fat bitch herself said they were using GUID to track images

<<Really, where?

In the 3 youtube videos from the first thread


a222f8  No.12119732

File: 8de2d2eeb4e820d⋯.gif (86.18 KB, 300x299, 300:299, 8de2d2eeb4e820d812659c7350….gif)

>>12119671

>>12119671

>I think we are assuming the GUID filename leak is just an OPSEC failure.

What are you basing this assumption on?

>Why do you keep answering question with a question?

Why are you? You're claiming that the GUID's are being used to track the images somehow, yet you're saying the tracking is being done by hash. There is absolutely no reason I can think of to use a GUID filename if you are tracking images by hash, which is why I asked you why one would need to do so.

It seems to me like you're flawed logic has been exposed and you are beginning to lash out in embarrassment.

>>12119678

>Because it's a fed.

So I'm a fed because think the Joan GUID theory is retarded, proved it's retarded with logic, and began helping design an application that will give us proper opsec regarding image data anonymity? Kill yourself.

>>12119695

>Hiding files within images, anon.

I didn't need evidence that it's possible, I know it's possible. I described how to accomplish it in this thread. Please read threads before participating in them in the future, anon. Your ignorance regarding what's already transpired in the conversation is extremely annoying.

>>12119703

I'm curious to see if one of those images would upload to cuckchan. I bet it will block it and say there's an embedded file.


50541d  No.12119733

>>12119715

>>12119728

wtf nigger is the site going crazy again?


a222f8  No.12119741

>>12119672

Some of this post was for you: >>12119732


a222f8  No.12119751

>>12119728

>In the 3 youtube videos from the first thread

She explicitly stated "I'm tracking images with GUIDs"? Provide timestamp, please. I don't remember her saying that.


a2ecbb  No.12119773

>>12119082

You don't belong here


a222f8  No.12119794

File: 7f850a560b2f55a⋯.jpg (109.49 KB, 774x720, 43:40, 7f850a560b2f55a7e6701c18b4….jpg)

>>12119773

Keep telling yourself that sweetie. I guarantee you I have been here longer than you have.

It's hilarious how triggered you faggots are by the simple fact I'm applying simple logic to call out your asinine file tracking theory. By all means, please continue to sperg out.


a2ecbb  No.12119799

>>12119695

Just to be clear, we have checked the images for python and all other coding, correct?

I just want to be sure before I download on non-opsec comp to take a look for myself. Otherwise I'll wait til later.


997dfa  No.12119804

>>12119799

It is extremely unlikely that the images are harmful themselves. It is the dissemination of the images that is being monitored for intelligence purposes.


a2ecbb  No.12119813

File: 1264f4408cd7652⋯.png (248.33 KB, 1337x530, 1337:530, fbianon.PNG)


a222f8  No.12119840

File: ccaf5b0d663c9d2⋯.gif (266.11 KB, 500x281, 500:281, kekd.gif)

>>12119804

>It is the dissemination of the images that is being monitored for intelligence purposes.

How are the GUIDs tracking the dissemination of the images? Explain it to us step by step. Start by describing how to save an image from cuckchan with the GUID filename.

>>12119813

Fucking kek

>use simple logic to disprove boomer-tier paranoid theory

>get called FBI

Why are you so emotionally attached to your retarded little theory? Why do you still believe it after simple logical deduction has proven it is nonsensical? Are you incapable of processing the new information? If you need clarification, just ask.


a2ecbb  No.12119860

>>12119804

No, that makes sense. I've been working on what to expect next in the internet takeover game for a couple months now.

>>12119602

I think they're writing their proposal for internet regulation and I think this plays a large part in that task.

I called this a while back comparing it to the 2008 mortgage meltdown that priced avg joe out of the game.

The next wave of internet regulation will make it so you have to carry bond insurance and pay fees to support the regulators that will price owning a website out of reach for avg joe.

This is actually good info but not if we don't act on it. We're going to have to reverse the flow of img's, flood normie sites with OC or somehow disrupt their metrics. Any ideas would be appreciated.


a2ecbb  No.12119871

>>12119840

>Explain it to us step by step. Start by describing how to save an image from cuckchan with the GUID filename.

We're not here to do your work for you you filthy traitor. How bout instead of working for some international jew, you take your oath to the constitution seriously and work for the people you are supposed to protect? Fucking degenerate!

Filtered!


d6e505  No.12119882

>>12119732

Alright, I missed out the detail about 8ch vs 4chan, my fault. You are correct about not being able to do that on half-chan.

I do however agree that this whole GUID is either getting a lot of clueless anons confused, or it's a shill in of itself. I'd love to see any evidence in regards to how they actually plan on tracking via images. All I've seen is one post of a GUID and now there are two threads about it. Is there a resource on her actual implementation?


f8ff77  No.12119898

>>12119794

>>12119840

go ahead and try, we aren't gonna tell you which part of your post makes it GLOW IN THE DARK


a2ecbb  No.12119902

>>12119882

but what was image search?


997dfa  No.12119911

>>12119840

>How are the GUIDs tracking the dissemination of the images? Explain it to us step by step

This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion.


a222f8  No.12119915

File: 69c51f01dc7d50c⋯.jpg (106.14 KB, 698x658, 349:329, 1520986282637.jpg)

>>12119871

Here's the answer: It's not possible to save an image on cuckchan with the filename it was uploaded with. Therefore, using the image filename to track the dissemination of images doesn't work on 4chan, where thousands and thousands of these "GUID" named images are posted every week.

>How bout instead of working for some international jew, you take your oath to the constitution seriously and work for the people you are supposed to protect?

Seek professional help.

>>12119882

>I'd love to see any evidence in regards to how they actually plan on tracking via images.

None exists, and no evidence exists that these "GUID" filenames have anything to do with this hamwhale named Joan.

>All I've seen is one post of a GUID and now there are two threads about it.

It started on cuckchan, it's literally mass hysteria fueled by tech illiterate anons (and possibly trolls).

>Is there a resource on her actual implementation?

No, and there's nothing indicating she ever intended to implement anything of the sort, as far as I'm aware.

>>12119898

>samefagging this hard


a222f8  No.12119925

File: a6d702c507921cf⋯.jpg (92.28 KB, 721x604, 721:604, 1519648095145.jpg)

>>12119911

Nigger you need to describe how the GUIDs are meant to be tracking the dissemination of images. You outright stated that that is what is occurring, yet I've already described repeatedly in this thread how it can't possibly be the case. Every time you're asked to describe how it's being done you call me a fed or a shill.

Describe how the tracking is being done with GUIDs.


a2ecbb  No.12119926

>>12119911

checkin those trip dubz

So, let's get a list of what we know.

1. They are spamming the board with images

2. those images have GUIDs

3. They are injecting disinfo agents

4. Internet censorship is a hot topic right now

5. no coding yet found in images

Can you add to this?


997dfa  No.12119938

>>12119926

While completely unproven there is a strong suspicion on my part of invisible watermarks being used to track image information flows across social media sites


997dfa  No.12119943


d6e505  No.12119945

File: eace701c3c8a18b⋯.png (48.88 KB, 641x593, 641:593, Feel_Guy_PC.png)

>>12119915

Thanks, bro. You're the only sane dude left it seems.


af1372  No.12119952

File: 5d989c1cb0ed189⋯.gif (4.2 MB, 380x250, 38:25, giphy.gif)

>>12119794

>call out your asinine file tracking theory.

That's possible though… maybe not as accurate that some here say and you can upload the image on diferent sites…

But they certainly can track where it came from and when you upload it on god knows where, they know you came from there.

They need to use images that mostly channers use though and it needs to be inside the image code… the GUID or whatever the hell they use. You also need to be noticed by them.

All in all I fail to see why you would try to do this just to proof he came from 4chan or 8chan.

I wonder why you are so upset with these boomer tards and not fat sister who is responsible for all this tardiness?

I didn't even care about this thread untill some faggots started to get butthurt in another thread that some GUID images were showing up in that thread and people started to get paranoid while other said they were acting like a retard.

Moral of the story is… You both are retards on both sides and need to get out of pol. You faggot are more annoying than Q-larpers.


ae39bd  No.12119961

>>12119915

>>I'd love to see any evidence in regards to how they actually plan on tracking via images.

>None exists, and no evidence exists that these "GUID" filenames have anything to do with this hamwhale named Joan.

>>All I've seen is one post of a GUID and now there are two threads about it.

>It started on cuckchan, it's literally mass hysteria fueled by tech illiterate anons (and possibly trolls).

>>Is there a resource on her actual implementation?

>No, and there's nothing indicating she ever intended to implement anything of the sort, as far as I'm aware.

It's US Military Intel/Special Ops contractors fucking with the minds of image board users.


a2ecbb  No.12119964

>>12119945

Lol at the jew and his schizophrenia!


a222f8  No.12119968

File: dd477aad7eb9520⋯.jpg (51.89 KB, 529x529, 1:1, 1520826607242.jpg)

>>12119926

>1. They are spamming the board with images

Anons are posting memes, there is no evidence of malicious spamming.

>2. those images have GUIDs

Some images have these filenames you're worried about, yes. These filenames have been around since at least December 2016.

>3. They are injecting disinfo agents

i.e. There are anons who don't agree with your pant on head retarded theory.

>4. Internet censorship is a hot topic right now

Yes… and?

>5. no coding yet found in images

The hash of the images indicates they are identical to images that have already been posted, indicating they are simply memes being reposted by anons who have saved them.

>Can you add to this?

6. Tech illiterate faggots such as yourself have been shitting up the board for days (over a week?) shrieking artistically very time someone uses an iPhone to post an image because you think it's part of a conspiracy involving the corpulent bitch in the OP masterminding some kind of surveillance scheme (that you can't explain the details of when pressed).

>>12119952

>giphy.gif

>channers

>image code…

>

Go back to your containment board boomer: >>>/qresearch/


ae39bd  No.12119977

>>12119961

>It's US Military Intel/Special Ops contractors fucking with the minds of image board users.

Meant to write "/pol/ users."


e8642d  No.12119988

>>12119794

>I'm applying simple logic to call out your asinine file tracking theory.

>please continue to sperg out.

>calls thread discussion stupid

>(64)

kek


af1372  No.12119992

>>12119968

>Go back to your containment board boomer: >>>/qresearch/

Try better to debunk my post retard.


a222f8  No.12119999

File: 86fa5a5a38bc353⋯.jpg (47.75 KB, 600x448, 75:56, 86fa5a5a38bc353935de863615….jpg)

>>12119961

>It's US Military Intel/Special Ops contractors fucking with the minds of image board users.

I'm seriously beginning to think that this is what's going on. Note how this one is glowing in the dark, calling anons schizophrenic: >>12119964

>>12119945

I believe we've rather thoroughly discredited the entire psyop at this point. It will be interesting to come back in 24 hours and see how these faggots have continued to try to shill their patently absurd nonsense even after being so meticulously BTFO.


a2ecbb  No.12120000

>>12119938

>>12119926

>>12119952

It's 100% this

>>12119578

>>12119578

They're preparing a proposal for presentation to congress. They're sourcing the flow of information and building a case as to why they are going to need (((government))) regulation of the internet, why they will need bond insurance (anyone can say anything, no matter how (((salacious))), they will need a license and each person will need a UID to access the web.

This could be beneficial to us in that it could provide us with more opsec. All we would need to do is sit outside a strip mall, shark a WPA2 and get a list of UID's to use. However, once they found out that UID was compromised, they would have a shutoff mechanism in place.

This is bad. Watch the shilling try to divert your attention away from my post. This is really bad!


997dfa  No.12120006

>I believe we've rather thoroughly discredited the entire psyop at this point

Utterly hilarious


a2ecbb  No.12120010

File: 57672363b7b49f4⋯.gif (493.84 KB, 646x466, 323:233, 1514257697614.gif)

>>12120000

God dammit, Kek is with me!

I'm fucking telling you guys, this is 100% what's going on and it's happening right fucking now!


af1372  No.12120015

File: f057bb50d81d1d3⋯.png (50.97 KB, 196x257, 196:257, ClipboardImage.png)

>channers

>HEY EVERYONE CAN'T USE CHANNERS IF YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO A RETARD

>image code…

<IMPLYING CODE IN AN IMAGE IS NOT CODE

>giphy

WEW attacking on file names bigger retard than expected.


50541d  No.12120025

>>12119999

Alright fine

You have won me over anon

but to just blatantly dismiss the theory is foolhardy

examples:

>There is absolutely no reason I can think of to use a GUID filename if you are tracking images by hash

She's a dumb fat bitch. Do we need an explanation?

Maybe they take a screencap with the initial (((GUID)))

<<look look here's where we begin the process

Then she hands it off to some tech who proceeds to list if the file (by hash) shows up on social media.

or maybe its some way of identification/indexing between shills within a thread


997dfa  No.12120027

>>12120000

>shark a WPA2

this is becoming increasingly difficult. that said, there are lots of vulnerabilities in the WPS system


ae39bd  No.12120045

>>12120000

>>12120010

Your writing style makes you stick out like a sore thumb. You guys aren't very skilled role players.


50541d  No.12120048

>>12119999

>>12120025

futhermore

The notion that its just iOS users makes me WUT?

Did a new version of iOS suddenly start doing these weird ass image names in late 2016?

>>12120027

No its not. Its only as hard as brute forcing your key. Hell Kali Linux even has pre-installed packages to do the Key Reinstallation Attack (KRACK)


997dfa  No.12120061

>>12120048

> Its only as hard as brute forcing your key

I thought keys are increasingly complex as people improve OPSEC, driving up cost of bruting em


a2ecbb  No.12120063

>>12120045

Keep highlighting my post >>12120000

Everyone needs to see this!


a2ecbb  No.12120066

>>12120061

no if you have 4 hours you can crack any wifi code


a2ecbb  No.12120072

>>12120061

no if you have 4 hours you can crack any wifi code

I won't be commenting any further on this and neither should you.


50541d  No.12120074

>>12120061

>normie running the wireless at McDonalds has a 16 character-alpha-numeric-nonsensical passkey


513bd4  No.12120075

Are you guys retarded? Well rename it to apple user detector.


50541d  No.12120083

>>12120072

a mobile box can brute a 16 character-alpha-numeric-nonsensical passkey

in 4 hours?


50541d  No.12120092

>>12120072

stfu faggot

You fucks probably already hacked my wifi (took ya awhile)

Probably the same aylmao looking fag who knocked on my door looking for "John Smith"


a2ecbb  No.12120098

File: 30bf9bb45bf1a96⋯.png (304.68 KB, 529x487, 529:487, BigBirdSlaver.png)

>>12120092

>>>12119938

>

>>>12119926 (You)

>

>>>12119952

>

>It's 100% this

>

>>>12119578 (You)

>

>>>12119578 (You)

>

>They're preparing a proposal for presentation to congress. They're sourcing the flow of information and building a case as to why they are going to need (((government))) regulation of the internet, why they will need bond insurance (anyone can say anything, no matter how (((salacious))), they will need a license and each person will need a UID to access the web.

>

>This could be beneficial to us in that it could provide us with more opsec. All we would need to do is sit outside a strip mall, shark a WPA2 and get a list of UID's to use. However, once they found out that UID was compromised, they would have a shutoff mechanism in place.

>

>This is bad. Watch the shilling try to divert your attention away from my post. This is really bad!


b42a27  No.12120103

>>12119999

talk about wasted digits, you've been shitting up this thread for quite some time now

now please go away joan, we have shitposting to get back to


997dfa  No.12120107

https://imatag.com/demo/watermarking/


997dfa  No.12120113

>>12120107

Can someone upload a known invisibly watermarked image? I want to take a stab at analysis


af1372  No.12120116

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12120098

SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!


997dfa  No.12120118

https://spie.org/Publications/Proceedings/Paper/10.1117/12.2285613

This paper narrates infrared image watermarking based on the discrete Shearlet transform(DST). DST has nice multiresolution and multi-directional[1] analysis ability. This feature of DST can be exploited on image watermarking. the proposed method has two purposes. One is hiding watermark information into multi-direction coefficients of the host infrared image to make the watermark is imperceptibility. The other purpose is dealing with various attacks such as noise addition, enlarging, cropping, median filtering and Gaussian filtering to verify the robustness of this method. The experimental results show that the visual effect is satisfactory because the secret information can’t be distinguished by people’s eyes. In fact, through the correlation calculation also shows that the invisible effect is very good.


e61bae  No.12120130

>>12117783

>busted anon keeps bitching about how he can't into anything.

weak. so very weak. Given a sign from kek, still goes on about being a faggot.

have you thought about killing yourself recently? The world needs to be a better place.


a2ecbb  No.12120133

>>12120116

I'm working on our next step. The best I can come up with is we start emailing our congress persons now. I have nothing better but will entertain any ideas you may offer.


e61bae  No.12120135

>>12120118

This is the basis of cinema waternarking, unless I am very much mistaken. Designed to survive multiple noisy and lossy compression/decompression steps, too.


b42a27  No.12120140

>>12120072

>4 hours

it takes less than 30mins for an automated run, less than 5 mins manually to get a handshake

that handshake is not many bytes to send to various servers and/or services for analysis.

this method is atleast ten years old btw


997dfa  No.12120146

>>12120135

I developed a method which might expose this watermark. Stay tuned


e61bae  No.12120147

>>12120103

no such thing as wasted digits, even if you add CP and hop IP. twice quads show that there is an ongoing op against us.


6056b1  No.12120155

>>12118833

>But you can't track users with a GUID really

i don't think the point is to track a specific user with this method. the point is to track meme dissemination. They drop some shitty OC and see where it winds up.

>the only way you could effectively track the user is if you're Jim or codemonkey or a global vol

cloudflare could also do this

>>12118892

as brought up before this would lead to rapid degradation of the image if ran over and over again by many anons, but its a good idea.

>>12118915

try/except is considerably slower than than if/else, i'll benchmark it.

>>12119330

>>12119362

>>12119799

you can test all of the images for appended data of any kind, this should be done with all these shill guid images. i don't know why they would do this though when they can steg it, which is much harder to detect.

>>12119926

most of the images are OC, based on looking at all them posted on 8ch at any one time myself and bouncing md5s off of 4chan.


e61bae  No.12120156

>>12120146

>>>12120146

>if they are using wavelets, then you'd need to know the custom wavelet to decode. DCI coats all their boards in self destruct coating to prevent that information getting out - and we don't have physical access to anything to give us a clue.

>But i'm interested. Showing watermarking is trivial - a checksum would do it, but decoding it would be impressive.


a2ecbb  No.12120160

File: fcb8072297bc137⋯.png (193.17 KB, 1322x1438, 661:719, Screenshot_2018-09-07 User….png)

File: 0df00a2cde5ed2e⋯.png (329.37 KB, 1322x3503, 1322:3503, Screenshot_2018-09-07 User….png)

>>12120147

Recent gov funded research into UIDs to access social networks.

It's real


e8642d  No.12120166

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Data & Society is Jabba the Hutt's nest. I think they might be a nest of dykes. Jabba has a left lower arm tattoo just past the elbow, the asian colleague of this woman has a tattoo in the same location and butch dress style.

Comments are back on the menu guise!

This is a video on algorithms without mentioning algorithms.

12:30 - she creates an job ad to fuck with Nigerian elections

13:55 - she is disappointed it is people like her not 4cuck trolls who replied to the ad

There is no /tech/ in these STEM larpers, or they keep it well hidden. This one seems to be prepared to point out their own group hypocrisy, so has some level of self-reflection unlike the others.


997dfa  No.12120168

>>12120156

I'm visualizing 61 discrete wavelet transformations for each input image. One of those should show signs of watermark. I downloaded several known watermark images for testing from this blog https://phlearn.com/tutorial/top-secret-waterwarks/


6056b1  No.12120171

>>12120160

can you post the full texts or are they behind the typical scientific (((journal))) massive paywall?


e61bae  No.12120178

>>12120168

you know what might work?

A simple k-space transformation of many known suspect images would then give you a dataset you could run a correlation analysis on, to look for consistent signatures of tampering. With that, you'd then have a template to check images of unknown integrity against.

>>12120171

>what is sci-hub?


997dfa  No.12120180

>>12120171

>I'm visualizing 61 discrete wavelet transformations for each input image. One of those should show signs of watermark. I downloaded several known watermark images for testing from this blog https://phlearn.com/tutorial/top-secret-waterwarks/

prepend sci-hub.tw to the full url of any academic link to get the sauce.. i.e.: http://sci-hub.tw/https://elsevier.com/niggers


5dc327  No.12120182

>>12120155

> can steg it

Never heard of that term.


b42a27  No.12120184

File: 899e12207af49d9⋯.png (10.96 KB, 426x364, 213:182, 1419671400467.png)

>>12120147

wasted in the sense that joan got the digits

no argument from me about an op is ongoing


a2ecbb  No.12120188

>>12120171

behind paywall. Checked return script. all false


997dfa  No.12120189


6056b1  No.12120191

>>12120178

>>12120180

thanks forgot about sci-hub

>>12120182

it's called steganography. instead of the simple appending of data to an image you can fuck with the pixels individually with an algorithm and hide data in the image itself. generally this data is also encrypted. imagine how most of the block ciphers used to encrypt a harddrive bounce data all over the drive (and also encrypt the data), steg does the same thing, bouncing the data all over the individual pixels.


5dc327  No.12120193

>>12120155

>steg it

https://github.com/ernesto-usal/steg-it

the data still is stored in the image then… or not?


997dfa  No.12120199

>>12120178

good point


6056b1  No.12120200

>>12120193

yes but it's not appended. it also usually requires an image that is considerably larger than the data your trying to store. a little bit of text would be nothing but if you wanted to store a 20MB pdf, you might need a 100MB image.


e8642d  No.12120203

File: 6a4b01818555ea6⋯.png (1.78 MB, 1920x1200, 8:5, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 7032cfd484295c0⋯.png (359.37 KB, 500x700, 5:7, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12120166

g-guise you're all exceptionally r-racist xenophobes


5dc327  No.12120214

>>12120191

>>12120189

>it's called steganography. instead of the simple appending of data to an image you can fuck with the pixels individually with an algorithm and hide data in the image itself. generally this data is also encrypted. imagine how most of the block ciphers used to encrypt a harddrive bounce data all over the drive (and also encrypt the data), steg does the same thing, bouncing the data all over the individual pixels.

Ok got it.


b42a27  No.12120222

it seems alot of anons have forgotten about sink-posting


6056b1  No.12120233

File: 2457a646a9ef939⋯.png (700.64 KB, 898x772, 449:386, UK_traitor.png)

File: 4fd231f86b0caf1⋯.jpg (84.13 KB, 530x834, 265:417, oyvey.jpg)

File: dcf2acc8f90fdeb⋯.png (843.23 KB, 1142x980, 571:490, obey.png)

>>12120203

luckily this one seems to be concentrating on destroying the UK.

>(((Fake News))) is terrorism!


b50abe  No.12120257

At risk of derailing this thread, I feel compelled to reply to this…

>>12116065

>vaginas are muscles

>The sluttiest roasty can have a tight snatch just by doing Kegels

>there are plenty of virgins who are loose "down there"

Firstly, no, vaginas are not muscles. Kegels engage the e pubococcygeus (or "PC") muscles.

There are forms of muscle tension. Passive and active. For example, there's the passive tension which prevents you from dropping into the side splits (your muscles are weak, you have no confidence). Gaining strength in the hip adductor muscles allows them to relax and lengthen when desired and sink deeper into the splits.

The same would apply here. Strong PC muscles allow women to stretch PC muscles further under tension, to accomodate 6-inch diameter dildos and other such degenerative bullshit.

Those inexperienced with sex tight up consciously or unconsciously from fear of sex. Experienced girls consciously or unconsciously relax because they're used to it.

Some exceptions would obviously apply to lewd virgins who are super-horny and daydream about taking cock constantly (more relaxed) or sluts who have been assaulted or are afraid of a partner or rapist (less relaxed).

Kegel exercises cannot apply resistance, so it is mostly just holding for time, and we can see from marathon runners that there is a point where you simply don't get muscular growth or hypertrophy from long-term low intensity exercise.

They are mostly just for avoiding stuff like incontinence, not simulating a young virgin's tightness. You simply can't un-stretch soft tissue once it's been lengthened. That's why when the obese burn off all their fat they still have rolls of skin which need to be surgically removed. This is why sluts get surgeons to removed their stretched-out labia.

There is a role for conscious tensing of the PC muscles to change vaginal dimensions to stimulate a penis, apparently it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompoir

Women are generally lazy and don't have good intuition when it comes to pushing their physical abilities, so we can't expect any significant number of them to master a bunch of tantric sex stuff like that, or to actually know what strong isometric tension is, since most of them don't lift weights and cry about having to lift a 5 pound grocery bag.

All that really happens is they lose the instinctive advantage of passive muscular tension because their tissues become adapted to deformation so it is less painful and their muscles become more able to stretch out. This is why sex helps to prepare women to give birth.

That's a good thing when you want to have babies, but the more your flesh adapts to push out a baby's head, the less able you become to stimulate a penis simply by lying there and doing nothing, as most women do. This only works for virgins because of the instinctive tightness they will lose as they are worked in. Only virgins have the right to be lazy lays, women who take cock repeatedly have a duty to learn conscious contraction or give blowjobs if they can't learn that.

No, simply doing your bullshit PC contractions in your Hot Kegal Yoga class is not enough. Even if you did manage to overcome your pathetic laziness which prevents 99% of women from doing a single chinup, simply hypertrophying a muscle would not actually give you the skill to apply the tension of that muscle in play. Isometric contractions are not functional exercises.

Of the 1% of women who actually regularly do Kegels instead of just trying it out once or twice a year, only 1% of that will actually go past that to trying to learn to apply that muscle in active Pompoir movements on a partner. It's a negligible amount which will stand out on its own and does not require preaching. The vast majority will simply become loose and relaxed, more and more over time, and need ever-widening implements to satisfy their masochistic urges until they are fucking literal stallions and dragon sculptures or getting sexual fulfillment only when they push out a baby.


997dfa  No.12120260

File: f888dc2c7f4062f⋯.mp4 (10.31 MB, 3000x6000, 1:2, output.mp4)


a2ecbb  No.12120295

>>12120257

>>12120287

>>12120287

>>12120287>>12120287>>12120287

>>12120287

>>12120287

>>12120287

>>12120287>>12120287>>12120287

>>12120287

>>12120287>>12120287

>>12120287>>12120287

>>12120287


997dfa  No.12120300

File: 022e6ab9114a8bd⋯.mp4 (8.79 MB, 3000x6000, 1:2, shearlet2.mp4)


6056b1  No.12120310

>>12120260

>>12120300

this is cool but i don't know what i'm looking at. need a % chance of steg


997dfa  No.12120316

>>12120310

This is exploratory data analysis. We don't know what we are looking for yet.


9df1fc  No.12120321

File: 2169d4075cea1c2⋯.png (349.02 KB, 656x496, 41:31, 2169d4075cea1c250889819def….png)

A lot of people are reporting posts with GUID filenames. This is ineffective. I will do my best to delete files from these posts if they apear to be spam (unrelated to the thread), but the best way to deal with this piggy is to just rename files when saving them. Why would you want a GUID as your filename, anyway? Save them as hashes or use a descriptive name.


e8642d  No.12120322

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12120233

There's a video of them talking about (((fact checking))) they did in the French election to put of co-ordinated (((news))) and they will be using it in 2018 elections USA.

From another UK

23:30-24:20

There's a lot more in this too. Like

there are 100 partners they have trying to map our memes.

Forensic image analysis

Database

18:40-22:00


997dfa  No.12120329

File: ab279059fc07295⋯.mp4 (8.69 MB, 3000x6000, 1:2, shearlet3.mp4)


997dfa  No.12120336

>>12120329

>>12120300

>>12120260

these are analyses of allegedly watermarked images posted on https://phlearn.com/tutorial/top-secret-waterwarks/


5dc327  No.12120360

>>12120336

>>>/pol/12120287

Seems like it's happening.


6056b1  No.12120377

>>12120321

don't think reporting and/or deleting the posts is the best way. calling it out for others to see is more effective, especially when the shill guid comes from a shill post.

>Why would you want a GUID as your filename, anyway? Save them as hashes or use a descriptive name.

this, rename the files. if people get butthurt, don't post a suspicious as fuck GUID.

>>12120322

i'll chop this up and post webms


6056b1  No.12120389

>>12120321

this also gives the idea, the scraper i've got going only pulls shill guid images to (optionally) save them for analysis. there is no context. the content of the post should also be saved to determine how many of these posts are actually shill posts as well. if there is a clear pattern to guid+post then it's even more evidence. obviously mods can see the id's across /pol/ but that does no good when they're ip hopping.


997dfa  No.12120395

File: 38c75685b192559⋯.png (323.59 KB, 688x1036, 172:259, Screen Shot 2018-09-07 at ….png)

>>12120389

already done fam


6056b1  No.12120409

>>12120395

last time i went to that site it was down, i'll check again, thanks


9df1fc  No.12120410

File: 4dc250753e5b05b⋯.jpg (588.14 KB, 1280x800, 8:5, 4dc250753e5b05b5c8aef99128….jpg)

>>12120389

Actually I've got HTML-format archives of everything on /pol/ starting from the beginning of May 2018. What do you want to search for? I can search for GUID filenames and make a graph of their frequency, but it would take a while. Would that be useful?


b42a27  No.12120433

File: c74a2f4f6293cbf⋯.jpg (13.39 KB, 271x277, 271:277, doitfgt.jpg)


6056b1  No.12120448

>>12120410

are the images included in the archive? are you hosting the full data for download? not sure what i'm even looking for right now, I can comb over the data myself to save you some scripting time and cpu. Off the top of my head I would want to do the same thing I did with 4pleb with your archive, to determine if these guid's are OC or not, if you have the md5 and/or full images available in the archive.

A frequency graph might be relevant too to show if the guid posts have been increasing/decreasing since may or not. Looking over individual posts with a GUID for shill behavior is also useful but you can't script that, that's a bunch of manhours.


c8661c  No.12120461

I'm going to select all the images in my picture folder and mass rename them, then run them through an exif scrubber


997dfa  No.12120463


62aa2c  No.12120464

Could be worse, all the idiots could think you’re Jesus.


6056b1  No.12120470

File: adc746818a1bf08⋯.jpg (23.18 KB, 211x239, 211:239, joan_meta.jpg)

test to see if 8ch filters exif data or not, this post has exif data


62aa2c  No.12120472

>>12120410

All the really good stuff happened last October


6056b1  No.12120475

>>12120470

8ch does not strip exif data

if these "muh iphones" shills are correct then shouldn't all of these GUID's have exif data indicating iphone?


997dfa  No.12120478

>>12120475

oh shit nigger…


6056b1  No.12120489

>>12120475

time to rescrape /pol/ and look for exif data, the i just looked at two from

>>12119810

no exif data, "muh iphones"


847553  No.12120493

File: ee5e35a940518a5⋯.jpeg (6.17 KB, 266x189, 38:27, index.jpeg)

>>12120395

thread: 11622450, count: 1

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thread: 12011456, count: 1


997dfa  No.12120497

>>12120489

working on it


847553  No.12120502

File: caaa94b58694899⋯.jpg (99.02 KB, 460x447, 460:447, CIAnigger_18.5.jpg)


997dfa  No.12120530

File: 444353fe60937cf⋯.png (243.11 KB, 1112x1244, 278:311, Screen Shot 2018-09-07 at ….png)


bf94b3  No.12120544

File: 855c5b48fb109a1⋯.png (339.32 KB, 680x535, 136:107, 855c5b48fb109a1d7a6fe018ec….png)

>>12120448

Thumbnails are included in the archive, but not full images or PDFs etc. Hashes of the full images are contained in the archive.

I will not distribute the archive because I'm paranoid about the possibility of CP and other shit like that remaining inside. In addition, distribution of the archive could enable (((joan))) and friends to scan it more easily.

Right now, I'm just searching the whole archive and noting down threads which contain GUID filenames. This will help establish the proliferation of such filenames as a percentage of threads which contain them.

I'll look into making graphs and shit later.


b42a27  No.12120549

>>12120472

>>12120470

good idea anon, i did a quick test on a folder with "guid" images. out of 452 files;

$ for f in *.jpg; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator"; done
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Little CMS
Profile Creator : Little CMS
Profile Creator : Little CMS
Profile Creator : Epson

$ for f in *.jpeg; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator"; done
Profile Creator : Little CMS
Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.
Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Little CMS
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Little CMS

$ for f in *.png; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator"; done
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

gonna expand to see which files actually returned results


6056b1  No.12120555

>>12120549

that looks like 10% are coming from apple


847553  No.12120571

>>12120555

it would be amazing if we can filter apple posters


859380  No.12120579

>>12116016

oh no she will [OBSERVE] our post


bf94b3  No.12120595

File: d16d1445915fcaa⋯.png (115.49 KB, 1270x290, 127:29, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 275742d94000a1d⋯.png (66.6 KB, 1100x212, 275:53, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 06281f538cc1002⋯.png (130.93 KB, 713x224, 713:224, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12120544

Here's what I've found so far.

852 out of 4129 threads contain at least one GUID-named image, which is about 1 out of every 5 threads.

From the few that I've looked at with my eyes, people posting such images tend to display shill-like behaviour. Pics related.


997dfa  No.12120604

>>12120595

table containing exif metadata of GUID images

http://test33.ztube.video/guid_analysis.html


6056b1  No.12120605

>>12120571

i think you would probably need a separate chan program. you would have to download every image in the thread first to filter out posts with apple exif data.

>>12120595

look at these images. have you ever seen them before?


847553  No.12120607

>>12120579

she should be observing her emails too

Jmdonovan@ucla.edu

Joandonovan@gmail.com

Professorjoandonovan@gmail.com


847553  No.12120614

>>12120605

well judging by the content of those posts and the shitty images, they do seem like apple users to say the least, that's for damn sure.


859380  No.12120615

File: e419305b275e07c⋯.jpg (46.37 KB, 512x276, 128:69, e63f58dde64b69464bb9b1363e….jpg)

we are all the same person anyway. she's just tracking Anonymous. no bad side effects for anything. just ignore/troll her. she is just one of the many idiots, nothing dangerous.


5dc327  No.12120624

>>12120502

He's a good good CIA boi though. >>12120614

Apple is the modern day jude star. gas everyone who uses apple products


bf94b3  No.12120630

>>12120605

>have you seen them before?

I can get the hash of those images from the archive data, and search for their existence in the rest of the threads. I'll start with the [deportation intensifies] one.


997dfa  No.12120639

Where are you getting the 10% apple iphone count? I only see ONE GUID image with apple exif data.

To be fair, I think these guys took scraped memes and just changed the filename so they could track em internally. The source camera is inconsequential if they hijacked existing memes. Comprendes?

Filenames, URLs, exif data:

http://test33.ztube.video/guid_analysis.html


0550c8  No.12120646

>>12120463

Can we make an out of browser wrapper for this or?


997dfa  No.12120650

>>12120646

>out of browser wrapper

please define this term


6056b1  No.12120657

>>12120630

i already did that and bounced it off 4pleb, what would be useful is to do this with the 8ch archive this guy is running.

>>12120530

>>12120639

i'm basing it off of this

>>12120549

44/452

this guid_analysis data looks like it's missing a ton. there's 5-600 guid images on 8ch at anyone time based on the scraping i've done the past few days. don't you have a full archive going back to may?


997dfa  No.12120672

>>12120657

can you provide me with the best regex we got going so far? the uuids posted on 8chan are a fucking nightmare to parse


bf94b3  No.12120678

>>12120672

regex for detecting UUID-named images:

(\{){0,1}[0-9a-fA-F]{8}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{12}(\}){0,1}\.(png|jpg|jpeg|gif|PNG|JPG|JPEG|GIF)

This must be passed to grep -E, not normal grep.


997dfa  No.12120682

>>12120678

Converting to Python3 regex…


6056b1  No.12120684

>>12120672

this will catch a wider variety


^[a-f,A-F,0-9]{8}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{12}

see

>>12117710

it was a fuckup but now i think it's better to keep it the way it is.

it will match

574CB2DD-C7AD-4080-B8AC-80E6D1A8C39E

and

574CB2DD-C7AD-4080-B8AC-80E6D1A8C39E(anything after)


997dfa  No.12120685

>>12120678

>>12120682

Sweet. Works as-is in Python3


6056b1  No.12120688

>>12120682

>>12120684


shill_regex=re.compile('^[a-f,A-F,0-9]{8}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{12}')


0550c8  No.12120693

>>12120650

Mmm just something standalone to batch rename everything without a browser, I'd like to go over my gigabytes of image board collections, so any I upload would further obfuscate, as I'm guessing this script is to rename guid on incoming images from browser to drive.


997dfa  No.12120701

>>12120693

Bro that is a python script. Download a Python zip file from python.org, make a shortcut with target "python scriptname.py", then drag and drop the target directory on top of the shortcut.

Thats the theoretical way it works in windows. Otherwise just install python3 and run the script locally python scriptname.py /path/to/my/shit


0550c8  No.12120704


6056b1  No.12120709

>>12120693

another anon already posted something.

this will rename only guid files, batch renaming files is still a project being worked on i think. it's debatable if the batch rename script could be tracked just as easily as the guid is.

>>12116037


bf94b3  No.12120716

Archiveanon here. I'm too lazy/incompetent to write a script to do anything meaningful with my data, so please just give scripts to run. Here are the parameters of the data format:

The data is stored as lzipped HTML files. These HTML files are self-contained and have all the image data of the thumbnails and CSS and whatever stored in them. Otherwise, these HTML files are just straight rips of the 8chan website and as such will contain all the tags and markup in the same place as where 8chan puts it.

So send your scripts and I'll run them (after inspection, of course).


997dfa  No.12120717

>>12120704

>print(src, dst)

Once you are comfortable with the results, replace print(src, dst) with os.rename(src, dst)


997dfa  No.12120723

>>12120709

the idea is to have as many people with images with the same filename as possible so filename uniqueness diminishes


b42a27  No.12120729

>>12120657

im only grabbing files that have exifdata (specifically from apple) in them, so that does narrow it down. looking for clues for

>muh iphones

also not the archive anon, i have only done a few scrapes with the python script posted earlier


bf94b3  No.12120733

>>12120723

People should save all images as their sha256 hash plus their file extension. Then the images should be categorized into folders based on what their contents are. This is convenient because 8chan already allows downloading as the hash filename, it reduces the likelihood of saving duplicate images, and it makes it impossible to track people across threads by their filenames.


997dfa  No.12120745

replace


try:
uid = UUID(fname)
except ValueError:
continue # not a UUID

with


# put this part closer to the top of the script
import re
def is_8ch_uuid(filename):
r1 = r'(\{){0,1}[0-9a-fA-F]{8}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{4}\-[0-9a-fA-F]{12}(\}){0,1}'
r2 = r'^[a-f,A-F,0-9]{8}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{4}-[a-f,A-F,0-9]{12}'
return re.compile(r2).match(filename) is not None or re.compile(r1).match(filename) is not None

# the replacement
if not is_8ch_uuid(filename):
continue


b42a27  No.12120755

File: 2fe55a756420f45⋯.png (114.86 KB, 652x473, 652:473, apple_jpeg.png)

>>12120549

$ for f in *.jpeg; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Apple Computer Inc." && cp $f ./apple/ && echo "$f"; done
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
2672ddc67facfb9e4b967713d8698b3208ec5c5c3eae68a0cbc433e3372e0259.jpeg
File not found: 4a06edd5b079ed3b60ee922566af3e79d8c4b1d5b66ceae7a4db72c921abb720
File not found: 02.54.29.jpeg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
55369cdab7a932739769c52c75d80ef06e3ea31896d6799024ad2d9ebc08bae4.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
5c3329ca69ec3b1e088dda76a8402bd63a22ae08366e5867512f9077b98d98ce.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
6ae20f5ba584f9842372b0d3ff47a77e48f8491c9724dc2dbcaf647d3d55defe.jpeg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
6e356e3616a257a7df584a4fd5c1c431898cf0aa344c88df933eeae451be4b5a.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
6f254ea85aaca094a6b756159360fa413541c4164b07956562f7bceae45eac6c.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
7929f2b510bf6ccd70b81a719ca0a5a952d62c6aa68b2b52511c54c3c1919141.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
7a6225e1a86c1d13baf7f3cfb193842e3f9316768eafd5de85bf10bf31857a01.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
9509c6289e6518b6ed4cffc0eeabd93864655962597bb918593856977dc6349a.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
d227b5c553081203535f75fd5f9a7f2a429041a63f6117100f9a1c7a6061cab5.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
d3ee11aa15e5fae85aa9a78eeda627e95e21e437e9843cde625e123c98ab7e3f.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
f27787764badb78cc9284c5cffc5dce6581cf6e988ba5cc271774697b6b2aee3.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
f727d12c4acb8e558ae413cf46515e239e94f5c53f9233ca6417e975fa3a2136.jpeg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
ff5c1907fdbc5e747af23ba00f1891190b71dedeb9b796055bba39a9094763ef.jpeg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
ffd1ca8625a5b95cf3412b330e06c66743917749f3915b96d4fad4918e3beb58.jpeg


b42a27  No.12120756

File: bd7f44836030d2d⋯.png (45.04 KB, 637x242, 637:242, apple_jpg.png)

>>12120755

$ for f in *.jpg; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Apple Computer Inc." && cp $f ./apple/ && echo "$f"; done
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Manufacturer : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Copyright : Copyright 2003 Apple Computer Inc., all rights reserved.
07db154cfa6fd4589c6db8fec6d0ddbcebfa6890898a30ce252414a76908f1e2.jpg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
16a629d0c94a86709aac4f527decbbb6f5027efc3f6959f81757aa6676865dfa.jpg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
336dbf4504a98ceec232ce2ab5bc54923dadbe939e2e9a97e4dced853e1b8515.jpg
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
525ff4cfad0d6f76decfab97097a7b251f7d5e12bc50f58db3cca43ccfff23cb.jpg
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
c2f770af22e0cb0cd0c6ed47d2e77a6a49a1a088de1c024644917a5fc2a807e8.jpg


b42a27  No.12120759

File: 74cfa35390af6c9⋯.png (170.63 KB, 704x788, 176:197, apple_png.png)

>>12120756

$ for f in *.png; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator" && cp $f ./apple/ && echo "$f"; done

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

144d8d6412510ed0a8c8e9e698e7975a506f6ed82df20d6b288035942a46ee77.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

2427059d18f0e1bb047ff9d68f20ced17ee62fc1bb78306abc9acd0491a84006.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

288bc2ec4af375f59de24121e584c38ba2df804dad308495f95890d3ce490248.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

3515cdb90f8f711960f29a92855c3e8ba6d8adf0f150ee946b6e4b95f61241fa.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

399b97da3b09628ccab44c5a1bab48e1fc8ab7e06735b730eabc8aa89a696260.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

3b1388cf4843f64ca4625eb9df1f0a4b522d683f724f73e51e695117c60c21aa.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

401ccfee32836e4a8ee178f42d802e65efe5c790f86ca1868a377059a94b0d12.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

43b67349305f3a2d4d3f8a3e4714cc9329e15b8de35c46ea7848a1fb5e95e554.png

Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard

4883f26e964b9a145752d287439be5f995c2c5f4e5de3a8e991957a304393921.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

4a082daaef0f095209b6686f861cc49822b50d73b0ab7e51aedf10a752074672.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

4b17a15fec9998dc2f97274963cb2017c438a664bb18d1c7bbc18dfa8a49e140.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

4b2c90406cd4008b7c900ce9e74fa4b738db711b9aefd6a3392bbcfc7091d551.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

4ff61dcff0f2492c1a2c35407f3165c7286dd76fc06a8f6ca14c7c0d19240920.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

566ad3f55863e26375ad971028b02f515b3e6e4d3c8dab78c68c82e7c3b04547.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

56e258c33810a4fddb2ea2fbd28b2051e2548af3af775b42a17488f1a3c4d91e.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

69ccd7dd53c49bf020d46217d5282782aa03d6f244fa23ccc87da5599c3c3061.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

85fa1908ff633c78f79e2ba46f4975d09fed3c8b84abeab7498745c3cb22fde9.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

952514514ed8527e51393cc02f2f38ea38956bb2da725532c51f43172f0e8a6d.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

aedbbd5ee9db899adbec9138ec1d9a7f7dd3ecbe82deab3322507ae0bf4ca046.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

b5660c7800aa69c44e2645a03baa4cd247bbcaad4b41b330d0396e5d9c9c1df3.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

b7de186c6891d9b7a4c5e4b509e4cb46fe8dc1760d17f98493acb5107ab9ee34.png

Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.

b93fd06b8c09e5fa858d86c2b28719eba6ff6a17b8cc44bd6edb428d9579d2f0.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

bbdab3c0749e259a2349ef35c1cc9b8cfce01118ead907d0195ac8e5726e56f6.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

cd3513b6b5f80452b27f0603f96c897420aa809563995297965cc386cbacece0.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

cffcdaa8726fb7118e331bbced3511bf42277d159fafff0046b744c6689106cc.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

d1ad02fee313ddde6ccbb633ecb72f1ff3d03ba50774a724a2d97e5930f243c0.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

d5143b4015e6867ba1edf8432e2ac70567ec30a905cebdd20a278a9612968cb0.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

de1f18c592d9ceca3a3e64e2009c0a4e06942ad4aa6a2d4512b5045eb2a91bcd.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

e2a7b76a4068ee06a6e40c7e7e588d8f0dc7fc1785f51319d7daf4d9587f2c48.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

efc5e2f298da562222455bf59c98b880a18031f9b9318bfbb7bd7648f57b3a3c.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

f35bd55e44685108fc7baf13035f817fdb3cf52c1f6c3f08a3a48d06b39f4e96.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

f81efb24635f7ed13aba65f98973ff372661b1147cb94dfd3d195c18258142dd.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

fce88163465d3b2ab2f31c3536223b1a096fdc5a4c7c819e2fdd40f23415aa74.png

Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.

ff54580eaacdfac63ce36fafb861f401d837965a56f7a5128775808738a5bcbe.png


6056b1  No.12120791

>>12120733

this is odd behavior.

>>12120615


8ch original filename
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/e419305b275e07c7b3a91d58a14dff99331040edda6e818755fd7ea7053c86a4.jpg
sha256sum
2f14435b246890dedf6a81e6607ec9f3bdab92318059f7ca47dc20214513e325

original filename
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/e419305b275e07c7b3a91d58a14dff99331040edda6e818755fd7ea7053c86a4.jpg/e63f58dde64b69464bb9b1363e3d30847271ad11_hq.jpg
sha256sum
e419305b275e07c7b3a91d58a14dff99331040edda6e818755fd7ea7053c86a4

when you upload an image to 8ch, the 8ch filename is the sha256 hash of the original image.

if you download the 8ch filename link, the hash is different, it does not match the original image hash.

if you download the original filename link, the hash is the same.


6056b1  No.12120799

>>12120791

8ch is fucking with the image somehow, but it didn't when I tested this.

>>12116874


8ch filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/507f4f125651c3c7745ec754c250c6928eeac60ea592d427109ba221cccbe6f3.png
sha256sum
a200fe52bea7e5d2e746b9bc5d486110c09d61b0331363f2dd758f0bb321f8fc

original filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/507f4f125651c3c7745ec754c250c6928eeac60ea592d427109ba221cccbe6f3.png/1519092847356.png
sha256sum
a200fe52bea7e5d2e746b9bc5d486110c09d61b0331363f2dd758f0bb321f8fc

8ch is picking and choosing which files to fuck with. sometimes what you upload comes out with the same hash on the 8ch filename download link, sometimes it doesn't. the original file download link is always the same hash.


6056b1  No.12120804

>>12120759

>>12120756

>>12120755

there's always going to be some iphone idiot posters but you need to scan the files with the GUIDs only for exif data.

maybe it would be useful to do a comparision between every image on /pol/ and only images with guids to see if guids are more or less likely to have iphone exif data.


997dfa  No.12120816

>>12120799

>>12120799

>8ch is picking and choosing which files to fuck with

Maybe the images are run through imagemagick to compress em a little


997dfa  No.12120824

>>12120816

But…… since some posters reported they can attach extra data to the end of the image and then re-download the image with the data attached, there might be more going on here than at first meets the eye.


6056b1  No.12120829

>>12120816

imagemagick is used but i can't tell exactly where or how except to generate thumbnails

https://github.com/OpenIB/OpenIB/blob/master/inc/image.php


b42a27  No.12120833

>>12120804

if someone has link trecent archive i'd be glad to see what can be dug up

also the files that i tested are from a guid scrape (only the names are not in guid but 8ch hash)

have some other scrapes with guid file names i could run


6056b1  No.12120862

>>12120470

the image available from the 8ch filename link has been altered, but the exif data remains.


8ch filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/adc746818a1bf0820f64b63e79d7ab37e7ee6d91d002ceacfc8152f34ced8c8c.jpg
sha526sum
cb7123a04cb87ea0a0be47b234eec56284306bbda511097194d4128f325f73e9

original filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/adc746818a1bf0820f64b63e79d7ab37e7ee6d91d002ceacfc8152f34ced8c8c.jpg/joan_meta.jpg
sha256sum
adc746818a1bf0820f64b63e79d7ab37e7ee6d91d002ceacfc8152f34ced8c8c

>>12118885

this image with appended pdf data was not altered by 8ch.


8ch filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d.png
sha256sum
9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d

original filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d.png/pepepaperback03TheTurnerDiaries-AndrewMcDonald.png
sha256sum
9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d

8ch is definitely picking and choosing which images to alter, but the filename for the 8ch version of the image will always be the sha256 hash of the original image.


b42a27  No.12120893

>>12120804

not really a good archive but here is something as a start, first run is recent guid scrape, second run is random meme folder

$ ls | wc -l
572
$ for f in *; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator" >> exif.txt; done
$ cat exif.txt | sort | uniq -c
1 Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.
60 Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
9 Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
3 Profile Creator : Little CMS

$ ls | wc -l
1025
$ for f in *; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f| grep "Profile Creator" >> exif.txt; done
$ cat exif.txt | sort | uniq -c
12 Profile Creator :
3 Profile Creator : Adobe Systems Inc.
30 Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
1 Profile Creator : Canon, Inc. (Canon Development Americas, Inc.)
21 Profile Creator : Hewlett-Packard
18 Profile Creator : Little CMS


6056b1  No.12120898

>>12120470

i think i fucked this up.


8ch filename download link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/adc746818a1bf0820f64b63e79d7ab37e7ee6d91d002ceacfc8152f34ced8c8c.jpg
sha256sum
cb7123a04cb87ea0a0be47b234eec56284306bbda511097194d4128f325f73e9

original download link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/adc746818a1bf0820f64b63e79d7ab37e7ee6d91d002ceacfc8152f34ced8c8c.jpg/joan_meta.jpg
sha256sum
cb7123a04cb87ea0a0be47b234eec56284306bbda511097194d4128f325f73e9

these hashes match, they have not been altered, but the 8ch filename is not the sha256sum of the original filename.

>>12118885


8ch filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d.png
sha256sum
9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d

original filename link
https'':''//media.8ch.net/file_store/9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d.png/pepepaperback03TheTurnerDiaries-AndrewMcDonald.png
sha256sum
9b000f660fe66423dc4643b59c1c8f541907d8069f2c8e2433750a23ff5f7b0d

these also match hashes, but the 8ch filename IS the sha256sum of the original file.

i don't know what the fuck is going on here.


6056b1  No.12120917

>>12120893

so 60/572 guid images on /pol/ have apple exifs. this does not support the shilling that these are all coming from apple devices. if apple is going to take the liberty of renaming the files to whatever the fuck they want why would they not also include the exif data, especially when some of these show that apple clearly does add the exif data. this shows that the guid simply mimic's iphone's guids, if iphone is actually doing this, which there is no evidence to support.

your random meme folder has a lower percentage, but that's not really representative. need to scrape ALL images on /pol/ and do the same thing for comparison.


6056b1  No.12120924

>>12120917

alternatively, or both, it should also be tested against the exif dump from

>>12120530

which apparently goes back to may.


b42a27  No.12120939

>>12120917

yeah i'd expect that nr to be alot higher than ~10% to give creedence to the statement that its just iphone-posting. its worth noting that only 73 files have a Profile Creator metatag, not sure if its the best one to be looking at

>>12120530

do you have an archive link for the images or the possibility to run similar tests to mine for comparison?


6056b1  No.12120970

>>12120939

volafile link for the archive in the previous thread expired, uploads to volafile are only good for 2 days. you can generate it again though with the script

https://ghostbin.com/paste/o4sop

this will download all joan guid images on /pol/ at any one moment

copy paste into file.py

usage: python3 file.py

it will save all the images into a folder it makes in the same directory as file.py called joanimg


b42a27  No.12120971

for shits n giggles

GPS Position                    : 46 deg 48' 24.96" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
09D027E6-FD99-4940-8B1A-ACE213C51AC6.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.48" N, 92 deg 4' 28.62" W
208E27C1-00B6-4DC4-98E0-91401DDBF902.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.51" N, 92 deg 4' 28.64" W
32E87D8D-CE13-44D8-8CF7-C5AA4356DD8C.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.51" N, 92 deg 4' 28.64" W
46D4FE9B-A907-4E3D-9D10-94982581D62B.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.65" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
5EDE7C03-CE19-4F95-9DC8-DC44328686B8.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.65" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
749758DB-BCDD-4000-9099-4A721AF73B21.jpeg
GPS Position : 51 deg 37' 1.00" N, 114 deg 18' 14.49" W
941DC35B-6BE3-40B0-9372-122CD3B35993.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.46" N, 92 deg 4' 29.08" W
A824A029-70C0-4519-B1E6-216E44BEBDAC.jpeg
GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.81" N, 92 deg 4' 29.58" W
F0EEB30D-AADA-43DC-8520-2A6896B9D7BB.jpeg


b42a27  No.12120981

>>12120970

that's what i used to get the 572 guid images. was more interested in a larger archive for comparison of non-guid images


6056b1  No.12120998

>>12120971


GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.96" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
09D027E6-FD99-4940-8B1A-ACE213C51AC6.jpeg
101 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.48" N, 92 deg 4' 28.62" W
208E27C1-00B6-4DC4-98E0-91401DDBF902.jpeg
118 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.51" N, 92 deg 4' 28.64" W
32E87D8D-CE13-44D8-8CF7-C5AA4356DD8C.jpeg
118 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.51" N, 92 deg 4' 28.64" W
46D4FE9B-A907-4E3D-9D10-94982581D62B.jpeg
118 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.65" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
5EDE7C03-CE19-4F95-9DC8-DC44328686B8.jpeg
118 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.65" N, 92 deg 4' 29.69" W
749758DB-BCDD-4000-9099-4A721AF73B21.jpeg
118 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 51 deg 37' 1.00" N, 114 deg 18' 14.49" W
941DC35B-6BE3-40B0-9372-122CD3B35993.jpeg
AB-766, Didsbury, AB T0M 0W0, Canada

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.46" N, 92 deg 4' 29.08" W
A824A029-70C0-4519-B1E6-216E44BEBDAC.jpeg
1931 E 1st St, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

GPS Position : 46 deg 48' 24.81" N, 92 deg 4' 29.58" W
F0EEB30D-AADA-43DC-8520-2A6896B9D7BB.jpeg
101 N 20th Ave E, Duluth, MN 55812, USA

https://www.gps-coordinates.net/

>>12120981

i'm working on something to read this json data

>>12120395


6056b1  No.12121001

>>12120981

also going to adapt the script to dump all /pol/ images.


7d1135  No.12121254

File: 1467eac15db1f62⋯.png (27.66 KB, 255x194, 255:194, 1468631106311.png)

So they're data mining. I don't get what the big deal is. Anyone has the capability to cross reference images in different threads over time. I'm sure plenty of organizations have been dumping the 4chan archives into a giant graph database and analyzing how images and memes spread. It's actually very easy to do based on relative image similarity and post metadata.

Renaming images will have no effect here because 8chan stores the file hash along with the user's filename. Also I'm pretty sure Facebook images use UUIDs. Plenty of the UUID filename images are probobly just from normalfags.


169fec  No.12121387

File: 1820cccdece6e4f⋯.jpeg (19.95 KB, 255x159, 85:53, 01786F79-88FE-4E12-B43D-9….jpeg)

File: a9def976a34e1e0⋯.png (338.96 KB, 640x1136, 40:71, 3873300F-A44F-4A83-8139-04….png)

>>12116443

>iphone guid name defaults

Testing


bebb93  No.12121408

This shit is so retarded you guys need to neck yourselves. You clearly have no understanding how ANYTHING works and are now, the normies on 4chan that had jokes played on them. Fatso isn't making anything but cakes. There's no fucking way for the slob to track images. Images tell you nothing about who posted them. If this was irl like some conference, I would open fire on all of you now.


847553  No.12121412

>>12121254

>The kikes are up to something

>I don't know why you care

why are you here?


6056b1  No.12121456

File: 44b2028af5c74ce⋯.png (10.54 KB, 891x97, 891:97, shutitdown.png)

>>12120321

>A lot of people are reporting posts with GUID filenames. This is ineffective.

so is calling out tracking images

when the mods are trying to shut it down


6056b1  No.12121498

File: b6f99da79f8a893⋯.png (20.46 KB, 481x634, 481:634, exif_test.png)

File: 1c59a70bff4ef66⋯.png (6.69 KB, 414x327, 138:109, exif_op.png)

>>12121387

this image has additional exif data, compared to the jpg in OP, which I got from the last thread's OP.


169fec  No.12121576

>>12121498

So all phonefag OC will look like guid shilling unless anons check the exif?


6056b1  No.12121582

>>12121387

>>12121576

need more information, what program are you using, what ios version? and is this only if you use what looks like the image editor and save a file? does this not give an option to specify a file name?


6056b1  No.12121585

>>12121387

we need an anon to post a video of his phone doing this.


997dfa  No.12121622

>>12120998

>Duluth, MN 55812

Duluth is one of the last white cities in America. What the fuck is going on here?>>12120998


997dfa  No.12121638

Common image transforms in image watermarking are Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT), Discrete Cosine

Transform (DCT)3

, Discrete Wavelet Transform (DWT) or other multiscale transforms4

. Properties like

multiresolution, HVS (Human Visual System) modeling or spatial adaptivity has been proved helpful for better

information embedding, efficient extraction of an image and in essence improved watermarking schemes. The

transform coefficients are considered as channel noise and the hidden information is viewed as the signal to be

transmitted through this channel5

. Here we determine the distribution followed by the wavelet detail subband

coefficients and then embed the information which follows the same distribution.

The best fitted distribution by the wavelet coefficients is student t-distribution. Basic motivations to choose tdistribution

for the problem of watermarking is its ability of describing images with different statistical

characteristics, the extraction of a simple test statistic and the efficient detection sensitivity compared to other known

state of the art detectors, which are based on known statistical distributions6

. Thus, in case of Student-t we expect

that the nonlinear preprocessor will provide us with high detection sensitivity and improved robustness.

How the fuck do we reliably detect watermarks in images?


8f9c6c  No.12121639

I’m not going to post an image because I’m phone posting to avoid the spergs, but can someone post Jaba the hut.png please?


6056b1  No.12121656

>>12121638

this would be extremely difficult to do without having a known good image to compare it too.


997dfa  No.12121658

>>12121656

this is possible: >>12120178 but if ALL images are marked/compromised there is no clean image to compare to


617c1b  No.12121678

File: fec36e5231f9ea7⋯.jpg (6.54 KB, 294x185, 294:185, eb.jpg)

>>12116093

>These replies are leading me to believe that the people pushing this "Joan is using GUIDs to track you" horse shit are in fact shills.

They are. We call them 'The Trackers'. More coming about this later.


6056b1  No.12121685

>>12121678

nice shitty OC joan.


169fec  No.12121687

File: 3544b9ad6627749⋯.jpeg (17.14 KB, 255x159, 85:53, 89C8D0DD-C225-4DA3-8D85-6….jpeg)

File: 8c7fbf0d7cc4a0f⋯.png (195.53 KB, 640x1136, 40:71, 77928E07-C02C-47EB-A19F-12….png)

>>12121582

iPhone SE

IOS 11.4.1

>program

Is called ‘Photo Editor’ by Axium Systems. Version 5.1.1

None of my iOS photo editors allow name customization, nor does saving an image from here. Here are the images saved from here and reposted unchanged to see if the guids change.


6056b1  No.12121692

>>12121687

save images from 8ch or somewhere else using the default ios programs, nothing from the app store.


6056b1  No.12121697

>>12121687

and reupload them obviously. if you could take a video of this with another phone that would be great.


bf94b3  No.12121700

>>12121687

You're retarded and need to stop using crapple products. Even if you use android it's best to limit your usage of smartphones drastically since most software that runs on them is proprietary and there is no easy way to modify it.


169fec  No.12121707

File: 04c139f027c6ba6⋯.jpeg (13.25 KB, 294x185, 294:185, 8625AA27-F217-49A1-BDF9-0….jpeg)

File: 2d83f7093d39db1⋯.png (90.03 KB, 417x313, 417:313, 6C8C90BA-BE7B-4144-AADB-77….png)

>>12121692

Pic1 saved from google(for ironic lels), pic 2 from this thread.


6056b1  No.12121710

>>12121707

with what, safari?


8d69a9  No.12121711

>>12121692

All images saved to the device from any source get the same filename format. This has been going on for months. The lunatic paid jewish shills who suddenly claim “all these IDs are trackers” are clinically insane. Reported them when you see them.

>>12121700

>console war faggotry

Yeah, don’t use the most secure mobile platform when you’re forced to be mobile, right? Good goy.


bf94b3  No.12121717

>>12121711

>a shitty OS that doesn't let you rename files

>OY VEY goy, it's more secure

>merchant with apple armband.png


997dfa  No.12121718

First off, stop calling people retarded just because they don't have exactly the same life experience as you.

I digress..

Watermarking techniques embed ownership information into digital media to protect the copyright [1]-[9]. Watermark techniques can be categorized into two types, private and public [3]. Private watermarking systems need the original image to detect the watermark, while public watermarking systems can detect the watermark without the original image. In practice, it is better to use public watermarking [8]. Public watermarking is also called blind watermarking [9]. Modern watermarking systems often utilize human visual system (HVS) characteristics [10] to embed the watermark. In this paper, we propose a general framework for blind watermark detection that is based on maximum-likelihood (ML) detection and considers HVS to improve the detection performance. We demonstrate this framework both in the pixel domain and in the discrete cosine transform (DCT) domain. Using this framework, we show that better modeling of the probability distribution function (pdf) of the original image improves the watermark detection performance, compared to conventional Gaussian models [9]. Other modeling effort in literature includes using the Cauchy distribution and autoregressive models.

http://chenlab.ece.cornell.edu/Publication/Trista/acm2001_trista.pdf


7d1135  No.12121729

File: 54dd223bf616db1⋯.jpg (47.35 KB, 500x545, 100:109, flag.jpg)

>>12121412

I'm saying this isn't something new. It's been going on for a while. It's probobly been going on here since gamergate in 2014. Since anyone can freely visit the site there's no way to stop them from data mining.

Someone who knows what they're doing will be able to circumvent every countermeasure mentioned in the thread (changing file names, changing file hashes, adding watermarks, appending files). If I were going to data mine I would constantly scrape every board and store each post with all its data (name, email, subject, comment, time stamp, ID, post number, thread, board, 8chan hashed file name, original file name, file magic number (result of `file`), video metadata, image exif and metadata, image perceptual hash and the actual files) in a graph database with appropriate edges (all posts in a thread, all posts in a thread that refer to other posts in the thread, all posts that refer to other posts on the same board, all posts that refer to posts on other boards, all posts in the same board). With this setup I could monitor and analyze anything I wanted.

For the many non /tech/s here, the file magic number is what (good) software uses to tell what kind of file something is. It is a binary header that says a file is a jpeg or gif, etc. 8chan is dumb because it doesn't actually check files that you upload. I renamed this .gif as .jpg and the hashed filename still has .jpg. When you open it it's still an animated gif.

Image perceptual hashes basically turn images into a visual hash. This means I can very quickly search for images that are visually similar. Given a pepe image I could search for all images that look similar to it and it will return back all pepe images. I can broaden or restrict the search say to 95% similar which will thwart all foreign watermarks, image rotations and flips. I can even search for 99% similarity which would return the same image but both their png and jpg versions. Chances are if you embed a stealth watermark on an image you will be able to track it no matter what if it gets reposted.

My point is that there is very little if anything that can be done to prevent this (or any) kind of data mining. Anons should be fully aware of this. This thread is full of useless ideas because people don't know that their potentially up against. I highly doubt Joan and company are using the methods I described but certainly (((someone))) out there is. This really isn't that hard to set up and can be done with all free open source software.


6056b1  No.12121730

>>12121711

even if true this means these are all iphone posters, which means they are likely shills anyway. i can't imagine the typical /pol/ user buying an iphone. and these images and their spread can still be tracked by the guid, it just means they're using iphones to do it instead of special software to generate the guid.


997dfa  No.12121732

>>12121729

>people don't know that their potentially up against

some of us work in cutting edge computer vision research, so yeah, some of us have some ideas


169fec  No.12121736

>>12121710

Yes. Want me to try with opera mini or something else?

>>12121700 checked

>hur dur vault 7

Well duh. I needed a contract phone to build (((credit))) and buy a house before getting redpilled and learning about infosec. This was the smallest and therefore least annoying one.

>>12121711 checked

>most secure mobile platform

It’s only secure from thieves and nigger tier haxors. This thing has more backdoors than a gay bar. I manually have to turn of WiFi and Bluetooth whenever I turn off airplane mode.

>most secure mobile platform


997dfa  No.12121741

>>12121729

perceptual image similarity will get you far but if the images are fucking watermarked then the precision of tracking is in another league altogether. this is why detecting and eliminating any potential watermarks should be of the highest priority


6056b1  No.12121742

>>12121736

can you download an app that does more than screenshot? take a brief video of the screen while you do it with the app. this would be far more proof than a screen shot.


169fec  No.12121747

>>12121742

I’ll look for one.


8d69a9  No.12121752

>>12121736

>it’s not the most secure because i say so

Okay, cry more. There’s no TempleOS for phones, so enjoy your delusions.


7d1135  No.12121768

>>12121741

>but if the images are fucking watermarked then the precision of tracking is in another league altogether

Not true at all. Multiple search passes each using broader parameters will catch them. If you're interested a good place to start is using the deduplicate feature in hydrus.

https://github.com/hydrusnetwork/hydrus


6056b1  No.12121772

>>12121752

>shilling for apple products

ya your definitely not a shill.


66eabc  No.12121781

should the code of the site be changed over these revelations?


997dfa  No.12121787

>>12121781

unclear


bf94b3  No.12121788

>>12121781

let's be real here, chodemonkey is so inactive he will never get around to doing it, even if he thinks it's a good idea


66eabc  No.12121794

>>12121788

If i were to become code monkey by learning to code, could I be allowed to implement Tay bot?


7d1135  No.12121797

>>12121781

What would change?

The only thing I could think of is reverting the file names back to being unix time stamps instead of file hashes. But even that won't stop a real data miner.


bf94b3  No.12121798

>>12121794

it doesn't matter how good at coding you are, chodemonkey won't give up his position as site admin and jim probably won't let him either


66eabc  No.12121805

>>12121798

why won't jim do tbat?


bf94b3  No.12121808

>>12121805

you're a fucking newfag lurk moar


6056b1  No.12121810

>>12121781

no suggestions yet.

joan tracking or not this can of worms with tracking images has been opened, you can clearly track images posted on 8ch across the web and measure reach. all you have to do is drop a ton of OC and watch it propagate, some anon somewhere will download it and spread it.

-the original filenames should be changed to be not unique

that's about the only thing that can be done with filenames 8ch already provides unique filenames on it's own based on a sha256 hash.

-watermarking

this seems much more dangerous. cloudflare MITM's all 8ch connections. Imagine them watermarking or steging the image you download with your ip address and all other relevant information. That or 8ch doing it themselves. Then that image get's reposted and uploaded somewhere that isn't in on it, and they can still track the exact source of the image.


e61bae  No.12121811

>>12120222

>sink posting

yep, can you bring this anon up to speed, please?


6056b1  No.12121821

i'm not even convinced these guid's are coming from joan anymore, or they're being posted intentionally for the purpose of the guid, or if it's just a useful coincidence. the guid could be used at a minimum to shitfilter their own posts out, just like guid detector does to flag them.

if this is iphone posting though, then the guid detector might as well be renamed as shill detector, because the majority of /pol/ anon's would not purchase iphones, not to the extent that these files appear on /pol/. i rarely this this on /b/ or on /v/, where you would think there would be far more iphone users. I need to run the guid image scraper on these boards, and see what percent of images are guid images compared to /pol/, i have a feeling it's going to be way higher, because the shills are using iphone to shitpost on /pol/ with much greater concentration.


7d1135  No.12121834

>>12121821

I agree. There's a lot of unnecessary FUD in this thread. Images saved from facebook also have UUIDs so it's most likely just normalfags posting here.


e61bae  No.12121838

File: fb8fe1a252e5d60⋯.png (921.03 KB, 749x746, 749:746, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12120321

rename works if there is no digital watermarking. Since digital watermarking is cheap and fast and hard to defeat (survives multiple transforms, colour space changes, aspect and size alterations, and lossy re-encoding) you can bet that the filename is a red herring and the images themselves carry the data, invisible to anyone without the digimark (or other method) key.

Best bet is to not re-use any image with the red herring guid name

>>12120530

thanks for the URL

>>12120791

good find. I suspect 8chan is watermarking at the request of the US gov.

>>12121834

>go to sleep, goy. nothing to see


7d1135  No.12121869

File: adfe56484fc50ee⋯.png (604.56 KB, 800x1026, 400:513, really nigger.png)

>>12121838

>go to sleep, goy. nothing to see

Are you retarded? Tracking images by UUIDs is useless. Why give each file a name that sticks out like a sore thumb when 8chan already associates each file of each post with its unique hash? If you wanted to track files all you need to do is download the html file of threads and search for your image hash. It's that easy. This whole UUID thing doesn't even make sense. Also no one who knows technology calls them GUIDs instead of UUIDs so that should've been your first clue. Many of the people in the thread have no idea or very little idea what they're talking about.


997dfa  No.12121871

>>12121869

he literally said they are a potential red herring. where is your reading comprehension?


169fec  No.12121875

File: 7e4d346ed4749b3⋯.jpeg (26.25 KB, 199x255, 199:255, 42D973FD-7704-41CF-AEAA-1….jpeg)

>>12121742

>>12121869

Your waifu a shit


997dfa  No.12121877

>>12121875

filtered


169fec  No.12121881

File: 0f8c96938e88f3f⋯.mp4 (10.73 MB, 640x1136, 40:71, D72A273B-82C5-4C2E-AF2D-F8….MP4)


6056b1  No.12121887

>>12121881

well that's some pretty good evidence iphone does this.


7d1135  No.12121891

>>12121838

>>12121871

>go to sleep, goy. nothing to see

Why did he imply I was trying to shut something down then?


61a167  No.12121902

>>12121881

>>12121887

And why the fuck are just randomly all of these iphone posters showing up on /pol/?

Pretty big cohencidence.


169fec  No.12121912

File: 9bde803288b6e8d⋯.mp4 (6.69 MB, 640x1136, 40:71, 00F3B869-1D8E-46C1-A200-DE….MP4)

File: 7511ef91944035d⋯.mp4 (9.13 MB, 640x1136, 40:71, 1B4DBCCE-D009-44E1-8022-D1….MP4)

>>12121887

Here’s two of me using the editor s if it helps. It’s highly likely shills each have company/agency phones to samefag; we’ve always suspected it. Now I’m furious my tax dollars buy them iPhones instead of shitty LG’s or motos.

>>12121877 checked

Kek that’s all it took?


6056b1  No.12121915

>>12121902

that's why i'm saying even if these are iphone posters instead of joan's fat ass (it could be both), these are still likely 90% shills. who else would have an iphone.

>>12121881

no offense to the one anon that actually delivered with some proof on this, you should really consider another phone.


61a167  No.12121918

>>12121915

>you should really consider another phone.

One without DATA, GPS, WIFI, BlueTooth, or a USB connection of any variety.


6056b1  No.12121920

>>12121912

apple has actually removed the concept of a filename from the goyim. i didn't think they would go this far. in 20 years there will be a brand new breed of soy faggots that have no idea that files are supposed to have names.


61a167  No.12121927

>>12121920

>anon just go to your funny pics cloud and select the ninth picture there!

My stomach churns.


169fec  No.12121931

>>12121902

It explains why I’m the first “I’m a phonefag not a shill” poster to think of posting caps of my reckless faggotry.

>>12121915

>no offense

None take I know. I can keep this one plugged in and running apps at home while using a burner elsewhere.

>>12121918

Copperhead, wait for the Linux phone or dust off a brick?

>>12121920

Pretty sad tbh. Often the file names here are the funniest part.


61a167  No.12121936

>>12121931

>wait for the Linux phone or dust off a brick?

It receives a lot of hate, but the hate is from some shit like IO9 or something which I think is part of the kotaku brand.

I'm probably going to get one unless I see an actual good reason not to. I like my 13 year old phone. Battery life is fucking insane. I can go 4+ days without charging it and it's still above half.


dc02a2  No.12121937

this is great public relations for the council on foreign relations

a bunch of elites openly trying to wreck your privacy, and she's the face of the campaign. They honestly might as well just have had darth vader at the press conferences for how creepy this is


a222f8  No.12121973

File: 8a917cadcf1edde⋯.gif (42.93 KB, 462x700, 33:50, psychiclain.gif)

>>12120321

Reported for pretending to be a mod.

>>12121456

Based mods have actually stopped tolerating "muh GUID" spam on the board.

To any mods reading this: There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that image files with the filenames named with the file naming scheme in question are being used to track anything. In fact if you read the thread you will see many explanation for why this is very demonstrably not the case.

>>12121707

>>12121687

>>12121881

>>12121912

Fucking absolute kek, finally an anon with an iPhone shows up to put this entire shitshow to rest. Thank you anon, I've been asking anons posting images with these filenames on cuckchan for 24 hours now to make a video like you did so I could share it here.

997dfa is an actual glow in the dark shill. This entire "posts are being track with GUIDs" nonsense is a psyop. He immediately called me a "fed" when I asked him how GUID filenames could even be used to track images in the first place given that on cuckchan you can't save the image with the filename it was uploaded as; that was all it took for him to start screeching. Now he's tried to change his tactic by pretending he was never concerned about GUIDs and that he's worried about digital watermarking instead, it's the next evolution of the psyop.

Fucking LOL @ every retard in this thread who would not listen to common sense and were rekt by the glownigger psyop that these "GUID" filenames are in some way being used for malicious purposes.


169fec  No.12121984

File: 68d4e72c720d84d⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 49.07 KB, 402x596, 201:298, A8A2CE3E-BF6D-4839-A961-0….jpeg)

>>12121936

I intuited Copperhead was bs anyway since only available on Google phones. I miss my old phone, but this thing is handy when gang stalking (((pedos))) while digging on a false flag shooting and consulting on a Boer Minecraft server.

>>12121973

I ignored the first 2 threads until I started getting accused of being a shill by newfags, shills and bots. I’m just glad I could help and to see laneposting again.

>>12121937

>a bunch of elites openly trying to wreck your privacy, and she's the face of the campaign

They spent millions, sent their best, and was thwarted by a few good autists and a phonefag with nigger tier infosec and OC.

>mfw

For you Joan


a222f8  No.12122018

File: 727abcf1d63ab36⋯.gif (1023.97 KB, 500x354, 250:177, 727abcf1d63ab36a28e6ea22fe….gif)

>>12121984

>I ignored the first 2 threads

As did I, because I thought anons on 8/pol/ were more tech savvy and better at detecting psyops than cuckchan. I just made a one line post saying they're likely from iOS devices and then ignored them.

>until I started getting accused of being a shill by newfags, shills and bots.

The reason I came into the past two threads to put an end to this nonsense is because I was seeing so many normalfag cattle and/or shills in other threads hassling anons such as yourself, and noticed they'd even created a fucking script for highlighting posts by users posting images with those filenames. Things were starting to get out of control.

It's good to see that the mods are starting to ban these faggots for screeching about GUIDs in every thread.


d7563b  No.12122149

>>12116412

>You're shitting up my board with useless FUD

>my board

You're probably a worthless faggot.


d7563b  No.12122157

>>12122018

God, you're a fucking faggot.


d11e3a  No.12122161

>>12122018

oh great joan is back, i see you brought on a friend as well. lets see what exif data these ipone pictures can tell us, since in this thread it has been established through testing that about 10% of the files using this hexa-decimal naming scheme reports to being from an Apple product (most likely an iPhone). surely these recently posted images/videos should be rife with Apple meta-data?

$ ls
00F3B869-1D8E-46C1-A200-DEEC348F2A3F.MP4 77928E07-C02C-47EB-A19F-1248119A7581.png
01786F79-88FE-4E12-B43D-9BA86E6DB2E3.jpeg 8625AA27-F217-49A1-BDF9-0F085E05600A.jpeg
1B4DBCCE-D009-44E1-8022-D1A2356DBD71.MP4 89C8D0DD-C225-4DA3-8D85-63EA6F3447D4.jpeg
3873300F-A44F-4A83-8139-04C6249FA4D6.png A8A2CE3E-BF6D-4839-A961-05732DF31685.jpeg
42D973FD-7704-41CF-AEAA-10C388C055C3.jpeg D72A273B-82C5-4C2E-AF2D-F8915EF2BD06.MP4
6C8C90BA-BE7B-4144-AADB-77AC4AB0EE4F.png
$ for f in *; do /usr/local/bin/exiftool $f | grep "Apple Computer Inc." && echo "$f"; done
Profile CMM Type : Apple Computer Inc.
Primary Platform : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Creator : Apple Computer Inc.
6C8C90BA-BE7B-4144-AADB-77AC4AB0EE4F.png

not so much

also why are you so intent on sucking mod dick?


000000  No.12122162

>TL; DR

Why would Zay not strip the registry keys from the meme filenames befor posting them?


f3d93c  No.12122181

>>12120257

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompoir

I had a girlfriend that could do this while laying prone under me. I was seeing stars when I came.

sage cause off topic


a222f8  No.12122190

File: 88f31a41ae1576d⋯.png (152.46 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1520114275314.png)

>>12122149

>>12122157

>reddit spacing

A little angry that your pathetic little psyop has been totally demolished?

>>12122161

Devices don't inject metadata into every single image file they download from the web you mouth breathing retard. If the file was created on the device (such as the videos that prove that the filenames are from iOS devices) whether or not the video file is stamped with metadata indicating it's from an Apple device is up to the implementation of the specific app that recorded the video.

By all means, please continue to try push your failed psyop glownigger. This is quality entertainment.

>>12122149

>>12122157

>>12122161

Obvious samefagging, and it's obviously this ID b42a27: >>12120549

Reported.


169fec  No.12122207

>>12122190

>is up to the implementation of the specific app that recorded the video.

The videos clearly show that the editors and video app I used weren’t apple brand and therefore would not show apple exif as you say. Its how a phonefag scrubs exif if posting a pic taken with the phone. The shills you responded to would know that if they belonged. i know you know this but I’m typing it for the good of lurking newfags.

Goodnight faggots; hopefully I don’t get v&.


d11e3a  No.12122210

>>12122190

since when is using a vpn something new, never claimed to be someone other.

as i dont phonepost i have no way of knowing that devices dont inject metadata. i am simply using tools available to test assertations to try to get somewhere in this mess. they way you vehemently slam the efforts in this thread using The Best Academic Rhetoric Available(TM) instead of adding something of value to either confirm or put this purported psyop to rest.

go ahead and report me, funny how it is important for you to tell me that i have been reported.


d11e3a  No.12122211

>>12122210

>they way you vehemently slam the efforts in this thread using The Best Academic Rhetoric Available(TM) instead of adding something of value to either confirm or put this purported psyop to rest.

is if anything suspicious


a222f8  No.12122217

File: 9b0a969d7463537⋯.jpg (40.59 KB, 454x519, 454:519, 1519949341500.jpg)

>>12122207

>The videos clearly show that the editors and video app I used weren’t apple brand and therefore would not show apple exif

Exactly. The shills are just exposing themselves as pilpul bots by trying to deny the evidence.

>>12122210

>>12122211

>instead of adding something of value to either confirm or put this purported psyop to rest.

I systematically dismantled the GUID image tracking theory and even helped outline a spec for an image data anonymizing browser plugin. Your pilpul is glaring and obvious.

Reported again for IP hopping and samefagging.


7d1135  No.12122252

>>12122210

>i am simply using tools available to test assertations

>uses the absolute path of exiftool in scripts

A retard doing tests will interpret the results incorrectly. You clearly just searched how to loop over each file.

>>12122211

>calling me out is suspicious

Wew you still believe there's something larger at play concerning the file names? You may think the tests that you're doing will bear fruit but they won't. It's just an influx of normalfags.


6056b1  No.12122278

>>12122161

just filter this jew and be done with it


d11e3a  No.12122316

>>12122217

>i have ideas, listen to mee

sure you outlined some ideas, like the good academic you seem to be. who cares? having ideas and visions is neither new nor really helpful, unless implemented and tested.

the way you keep insisting that this is a psyop, nothing to see here is suspicious, why is it so important to tell everyone loud and clear over and over again to not pay attention to this? why is phoneposting suddenly so important to defend?

>>12122252

so by actually showing both the method and the results i got is somehow stupid? granted i dont know everything about bash, haven't commited every RFC request to memory etc. i did disregard parts of your videos on the simple fact that phoneposting is disgusting to me. jumped to conclusions based on the basis of neither understanding nor wanting an acceptance of phoneposting, for that i am at fault.


7d1135  No.12122331

>>12122316

I'm saying nothing of value comes from ignorance. You were ignorant and you proved nothing of value. Now that you realized that you can move on. I was saying don't waste your time because you really won't find anything.


a222f8  No.12122347

>>12122316

Just fuck off, you've disgraced and embarrassed yourself and no amount of this retarded pilpul you're spewing is going to allow you to save face.


6056b1  No.12122351

>>12122252

>It's just an influx of normalfags.

it's probably more than that.

<it's an influx of SHILLS using iphones.

The joan part of it is seemingly breaking down unless she shills here, which she probably does, and she probably does it with an iphone.

The biggest part of this being suspicious was where these filenames were being generated in such bulk. It's now confirmed that these are iphone filenames.

I see little difference between tracking a unique filename + hash across the internet and tracking these iphone filenames + hashes.

The iphone filenames are bad, because they're so unique, forget about the format, they're uuid's, they're designed to be fucking unique. They are worse than fatnigger10, but that's still pretty unique if your comparing that filename to other filename's you've collected for that specific file hash, which is a much smaller set names.

Anon's should still be renaming their files to be not-unique. I think the direction this should go is to create a method of doing that. The 8ch filename is unique, but it's just the sha256 of the file. Two anon's posting the same file in two separate threads can be differentiated by the filename they use, they can be tracked across threads. I don't think breaking this kind of tracking would require anything complicated. Nothing more than automatically renaming the file on upload to something like "image" instead of "fatnigger10". If enough anon's do this, than tracking the file by the original filename will become pointless, they will have to track by hash, which will not differentiate between two different anon's who post the same file but different file names.

The other issue is tracking these hashes across the internet to measure 8ch's reach. This can be solved by fucking with the image to change the hash after download or before upload, and will also solve the problem of anon's being tracked across threads. The issue is degradation. If every anon does this, the image will degrade over time.


d11e3a  No.12122388

>>12122347

still on the namecalling. maybe try a bit less to fit in. i have no face to save on this indonesian polewhacking board

sage for this shitflinging getting offtopic


c3c2f2  No.12122397

>>12122351

I hope some Mandigo gasses you for me.

Bet you won’t call him nigger to his face either.


ecf3b5  No.12122449

File: 56097bf96de636d⋯.jpeg (14.55 KB, 255x159, 85:53, 3A2F9916-7726-4CBF-A326-F….jpeg)

Mobile nigger test n shit


ecf3b5  No.12122461

File: 4428085b727b02f⋯.mp4 (12.2 MB, 750x1334, 375:667, A321C1B5-165D-4070-AF08-BC….MP4)

>>12116016

>>12122449

So why the hell is the iShit fucking up filenames? My best guess is that the overpriced fuckers are comped by glow in the darks or it’s just that shitlibs use apple products to shill here since that’s the only operating system those retards know how to use. Either which way just fuck my shit up. Here’s a video from my end of the joanification of my file name and autistic mobile typing.


ecf3b5  No.12122468

>>12121742

IOS has a built in screen recorder. Go into control center and add Screen Recording to your control center.


6056b1  No.12122470

>>12122461

not only is it fucking up your filenames it's fucking with the files. the hash of the file you uploaded is not the same hash as the file you downloaded.


6056b1  No.12122481

>>12122470

>>12122461

>>12122449


sha256 of joan2,
the image you downloaded
3975702d521985e37c5c43902145c140caec5dde8c4e7d3ab96640d80245ecf4

sha256 of 3A2F9916-7726-4CBF-A326-FE08DB9CD113.jpeg,
the image you uploaded
56097bf96de636d6a653509544a64b6604729a3852d991be5223f0df4d8b5600

tried to do the imagemagick thing to visually compare the images, and it failed, bitching that the height/width was different. then i noticed why.

you downloaded the thumbnail and reposted it, not the full image.

this is why we get anon's posting images for ants. there's too many fucking phone posters.


a222f8  No.12122484

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12122461

>So why the hell is the iShit fucking up filenames?

Apple is obsessed with dumbing technology down, hiding away more and more of the underlying operating system from their users. Now it seems they've decided to handle the naming of files for users on their mobile devices. They say they are doing things like this for convenience and user experience etc., but it's really about herding the nigger cattle, as Terry Davis would say. They want dumb users who don't understand the technology and just consume. They want iDevices to be consumption and brainwashing portals and nothing else. They want the technology to control the user, not the user to control the technology.

Gotta herd the nigger cattle.


ecf3b5  No.12122491

File: 61b5ede4caf4377⋯.jpeg (637.41 KB, 1714x1070, 857:535, 77A2B566-86DF-4847-A6B2-8….jpeg)

File: fd57c553ba6239c⋯.mp4 (5.67 MB, 750x1334, 375:667, 36D3D38D-2EA3-48FF-B963-A7….MP4)

>>12122481

Wow I’m fucking stupid. Thanks for pointing that out anon. I tried to do it again with the full image but I got similar results. Here’s a the non tarded picture and a video.


6056b1  No.12122505

File: 1d0c631adf30d73⋯.jpg (145 KB, 1714x1070, 857:535, joan2.jpg)

File: 61b5ede4caf4377⋯.jpeg (637.41 KB, 1714x1070, 857:535, 77A2B566-86DF-4847-A6B2-8….jpeg)

File: 7a82d8cd772de08⋯.jpg (1013.12 KB, 1714x1070, 857:535, diff.jpg)

>>12122491

WEW

iphone fucked that image hard, not only do the hashes not match, it's not just metadata.


sha256
joan2.jpg (original)
1d0c631adf30d735dd11d53d0a01d823e94b51e16d91588e6b554221d81c1f5f

77A2B566-86DF-4847-A6B2-8C548AFC0F1D.jpeg (your upload)
61b5ede4caf43770deb93716ecf17ddb5e52c33f8db6300a6daa0e4c4234eb6a

pics related, original, your upload, diff


6056b1  No.12122509

>>12122505

for reference if those images were identical there would be a blank white image for a diff

generated with imagemagick


compare -compose src test1.png test2.png diff.png


64cfaf  No.12122515

File: 5803d3e86659855⋯.jpg (31.79 KB, 576x432, 4:3, 5803d3e866598552d5331264e6….jpg)

>fat retarded self-appointed censor makes far-fetched claims about tracking users through image filenames and hashes

>tech-illiterate imageboard users take her at face value

>tech-illiterate imageboard users frantically search for evidence

>tech-illiterate imageboard users eventually identify iPhones as not-so-secret tracking and surveillance devices

You're not wrong, but you are retarded.


ecf3b5  No.12122530

>>12122505

>>12122509

Welp, time to rice that iPad 1 I’ve had sitting around. Thanks for showing me just how stupid this “smart” phone is. Too bad mobile plan shit won’t let you change the OS without messing up legal shit. Fucking Jews.


6056b1  No.12122538

>>12122505

>>12122530

i didn't even look at the file size. look at the file size with these images. the original is 145KB. what got shit out of your iphone is 637KB. it's 4 times the size.


ecf3b5  No.12122553

>>12122538

How the hell, can a piece of software fuck up that hardly? Maybe there’s some tracking shit in Apple images or something because 492KB doesn’t just come out of thin air. Too bad crapple won’t even let you look at the code on their devices without breaking into the little pieces of shit. If specs on the phone are of any relevance here’s what I’m currently running.

iPhone 8

Verizon carrier

IOS 11.3.1


044631  No.12122590

>>12122553

colour space conversion?

It would be interesting to see if there is so much change on a black and white or greyscale image


3df651  No.12122598

>>12122491

further proof that mobile posting should be blocked


859380  No.12122624

she shitposted on us wtf.

at least she cant flex on us.


044631  No.12122640

>>12122515

>far fetched

If you bothered to read the thread you would know there are 100 companies they are doing this in partnership with and effectively creating their own version of Cambridge Analytica - which they have disclosed they are going to use in the 2018 mid-term elections, faggot.


d7563b  No.12122642

>>12122190

Ha, nope. For some paranoid faggot whining about technology, you seem to have a poor grasp of it.

Let me update my analysis of you. You're a cocksucking faggot.


a222f8  No.12122647

>>12122642

>I-I-I'm n-not m-m-mad!

<reddit spacing


d7563b  No.12122648

>>12122347

Look at this desperate cocksucking faggot.

74 posts trying to get people to be a cocksucking faggot like him. Why don't you just kill yourself, you cocksucking faggot? It could only be an improvement for the world.


d7563b  No.12122650

>>12122647

This desperate cocksucking faggot spends a lot of time on the computer and doesn't want people talking about things he doesn't like. What a desperate cocksucking faggot.


a222f8  No.12122655

File: 3bf42643ef88c34⋯.gif (1.25 MB, 400x400, 1:1, 1528938172341.gif)

>>12122648

>>12122650

>double posting

>rage posting

<more reddit spacing

What the matter, sweetie? Having a rough day?


d7563b  No.12122659

>>12122655

Honestly, just kill yourself. You contribute nothing positive to the world.


a222f8  No.12122669

File: 20a74cbdd839aed⋯.gif (113.18 KB, 351x398, 351:398, 1521005726955.gif)

>>12122659

>being this angry on an anonymous imageboard


d7563b  No.12122676

>>12122669

>77 posts of being a cocksucking faggot

>thinks they're the one who isn't the joke


a222f8  No.12122682

File: a3c565c000a6299⋯.png (77.07 KB, 200x186, 100:93, 1519466886391.png)

>>12122676

<still reddit spacing

Reply to this post anon.


70d652  No.12123235

>>12122682

hey anon

I'd like to apologize for doubting you.

I'd also like to tell you I'm picking up on high autism levels, mainly from how much of a smug asswipe you can be.

But also from your "meticulous dismantling" that 90% involved nothing more than you shouting "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY" (even though you won't offer any proof yourself)

hats off to >>12121912

for actually showing evidence

instead of just trolling


1ceb91  No.12123291

>>12119915

I am just here to reassure you that you are not alone.

Very patient dealing with these idiots.

I'd like to believe they are shills, but it's probably just retarded shizos.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE


70d652  No.12123312

>>12123291

lol a222f8 is either ip-hopping or you're his shift replacement


1ceb91  No.12123355

>>12119968

Heh, this is getting funnier than some /pol/-humor threads. Keep BTFOing the boomershizonigger.

>>12121811

Basically CP hidden in images of kutchen sinks.

Heroic anons posted normal images of sinks to fuck with the signal to noise ratio abd get the pedofags to fuck off.


1ceb91  No.12123463

File: 8dfc7e3983ab76f⋯.jpeg (8.5 KB, 225x225, 1:1, images.jpeg)

>>12123312

Kek.

I am on a vacation in Italy and certainly not that sma Anon.

Fuck off

boomershizonigger

Is my fucking filename suspicious too?

What if there are multiple schemes of UUIDs to track you and leave time for cianiggers to fart into your apartment after they correlated your image oatters to the local frequency of waifupillofucking and how the rmtwo resonatr with you.

Lel, whR at niggwt excksd3eh


cfe7f5  No.12123511

>>12121881

>>12121902

>>12121915

if this is all just a natural iphone phenomenon likely a good and bad goy tracking method unique to apple if nothing else then why have I never seen this manner of files named such posted here previously? not in the last year or the year before that or the year before that etc


70d652  No.12123533

>>12123511

maybe iOS or the crapple software referenced earlier ITT updated and the new version does this dumb ass filename scheme

>>12123463

>implying you glowniggers are that competent


dbaaeb  No.12123544

>>12122648

>>12122650

Why are you so obsessed with sucking cocks?

Do you have something you want to admit?


8e6f9e  No.12123589

Check these ones out

>>12122747

>>12123453


0f1ff1  No.12123646

File: 4c9082c25cda8bf⋯.jpg (22 KB, 491x315, 491:315, 3TF43-5T3T-6Y46-YJY7-3TR-3….jpg)

File: c06e6a9c4c7eabf⋯.jpg (436 B, 16x15, 16:15, bypass.jpg)

BRB, editing all my filenames so you schizophrenic faggots can screech about some fat bitch every time I post.


8e6f9e  No.12123697

File: 3f51ef4856bb62b⋯.png (27.74 KB, 772x565, 772:565, rt_the_retard_terrestial.png)

>>12123646

I chuckled pretty good. don't point it out for him.


7d1135  No.12123702

>>12123646

>he didn't even do it right

2/10


1ceb91  No.12123730

>>12123533

It was a shitpost, Reeeeeeeeeact accordingly goddamnit.


3eefc6  No.12123872

>>12116134

This may lead to false positives. Many OC from here get posted on other places outside chans like leddit, those old phpBB forums, kwifarms, whatever and there some normalfag may save it and repost it on Kikebook.

If this is all true, then there's more than just some superficial tracking.


7ec718  No.12123883

>>12119915

Interesting misdirection. Plenty of people have pointed out since day 1 that the GUIDs aren't relevant. At all. They would at best be used as indexes to particular images. Any actually relevant tracking data is encoded in the image itself.


a222f8  No.12123920

File: c0e511f7b6fcc5f⋯.jpg (191.01 KB, 719x720, 719:720, 1518847243602.jpg)

>>12123235

>your "meticulous dismantling" that 90% involved nothing more than you shouting "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY" (even though you won't offer any proof yourself)

I used simple logical deduction to prove that the filenames were not being used to track the dissemination of images. I guess your IQ is so low that you aren't capable of comprehending the simple arguments I laid out.

>I'd like to apologize for doubting you.

Apology not accepted. You're a fucking moron for believing it in the first place and your mental disability is unforgivable.

>I'm picking up on high autism levels

Says the low functioning autistic brainlet with the reading comprehension and writing skills of a street shitting pajeet.

>>12123291

>Very patient dealing with these idiots.

Gotta low how even after conclusive evidence is posted that the filenames are the result of iOS we still have spergs trying to claim it's all still somehow part of Joan's master plan. Pure 'tism.

>>12123312

>implying that shills are paid to debunk this retarded file tracking theory

L O W I Q

>>12123511

>why have I never seen this manner of files named such posted here previously? not in the last year or the year before that or the year before that etc

We've already proven these filenames are in the archives going back over a year. The reason we're seeing more of them now is because of an influx of newfags.

>>12123883

>Plenty of people have pointed out since day 1 that the GUIDs aren't relevant. At all.

The OP clearly states "using GUID hexadecimals to track anons through their posts". We now have conclusive proof that these filenames are created by iOS devices.

>Any actually relevant tracking data is encoded in the image itself.

There's no evidence of image data being modified whatsoever, and plenty of evidence that image data remains unmodified (determined by searching by file hash through the archives).


70d652  No.12124084

>>12123920

>capable of comprehending the simple logical arguments I laid out.

<<95% screaming ABSOLUTELY, NOT-POSSIBLE, NOT A SINGLE

<<5% pointing out obvious 4chan file-saving mechanic

such logic

>Apology not accepted. You're a fucking moron for believing it in the first place and your mental disability is unforgivable.

says the autist who couldn't resist responding and has to respond to every single post separately

CREDIT GOES TO THE IPHONE USER FOR DEBUNKING

ALL YOU GET IS A BAG OF DICKS TO EAT

go ahead and show us that superior intelligence, I guarantee you won't be able to resist replying moron


7326b4  No.12124102

File: bcf4976b91fc387⋯.png (1.03 MB, 755x973, 755:973, FULLREPORT_Oxygen_of_Ampli….png)

File: 8a0ef38744c6f39⋯.png (10.61 KB, 300x100, 3:1, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1ce08ed23e17031⋯.png (520.22 KB, 1900x1130, 190:113, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 0fd20650d5d6b30⋯.png (162.99 KB, 1910x425, 382:85, ClipboardImage.png)

mfw the motherlode just keeps on giving. from Data Society ✡Research✡ Institute

We still fly under their radar for the most part. They are preoccupied with cuckchan.

pdf is refusing to post yet it's only 7.5mb

https://datasociety.net/pubs/mm/oxygen_of_amplification.pdf


ecd7a8  No.12124150

why play defense when you can play offense?

>>>/gnosticwarfare/


a222f8  No.12124177

File: 07644ab8b2003af⋯.gif (2.15 MB, 619x350, 619:350, 1521864857304.gif)

>>12124084

>being this shittershattered

Fucking kek.


a222f8  No.12124204

File: 465072af1bf2570⋯.jpeg (6.88 KB, 180x180, 1:1, cuckstate.jpeg)

>>12124150

Hello CuckState. No one is going to be "playing offense" with your half-written javascript utilities and vague ideas. Why don't you go dream up another redundant and needlessly complex proof of life system so that we'll know when you're dead after the CIANiggers v& you for larping as a hacker and tweeting Qlarps about Kanye West?


e61bae  No.12124313

>>12122211

checked. Is If anything suspicious. There's something going on.

>>12122217

The constant refocussing on the filename and refusal to address digital watermarking leads me to suspect nefarious activity.

>>12122347

keep repeating pilpul, someone might believe you.

>>12122470

this is the smoking gun. Does the changed hash remain constant, or change when downloaded to a different IP / at a different time?

>>12122505

watermarking, using wavelet transforms.

>>12122590

this would be really interesting. might help the stenographers in decoding, too

>>12123883

exactly. digital watermarking. and the iphone is upping the filesize/images dimensions in order to contain the info.

>>12123920

you proved nothing. This is fullchan, sperging about halfchan is irrelevant. Also, the downloaded halfchan file name seems to not change, so to know the transform from upload to spread name just takes a single step. Oops, was that your argument sunk?


6056b1  No.12124356

>>12124313

it might be this

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16332192/apple-ios-11-heic-iphone-image-format

iOS might be converting all downloaded images to HEIC and then on upload doing a shitty job of converting them back to the original file format.

Could be apple's own breed of tracking, who knows. That 4x file size is suspicious, how can it fuck up that badly. If the source image is 150KB, and it converts it to HEIC (which is supposed to cut that down even further), how is it then going to convert HEIC->jpg and then give you a 600KB jpg.


9d377c  No.12124376

File: 076dfc68d25cad1⋯.png (1.04 MB, 640x1136, 40:71, 40D4C896-F49A-4D5B-A461-C5….png)

File: 9646100a69cfcc9⋯.png (231.6 KB, 640x1136, 40:71, 802F197B-8BCC-4F91-8B26-59….png)

File: e14c3a4287ed0f3⋯.jpeg (13.54 KB, 255x159, 85:53, 18A823CC-8F0D-490B-956C-2….jpeg)

>>12124204

Kek

>>12123511 checked

Original iPhonefag from last night. I just updated my iOS a month ago for the first time in 2 years despite my phones constant screeching every day. I figured the os updates were how (((they))) bog phones down to get normalfags to buy a new one every year. At any rate, I went and checked some posts I made last year on slow splinter boards and the file formatting is completely different pic related. So the guids/uuidsyids formatting are new to iOS 11 for certain.

>>>/kang/42

>>12122538

>4x the size

>interdasting-potato-256sha-35vkf-2567434.png

So Joan and the CFR ran a D&C psyop to get anons paranoid and to filter phonefags(90% worthless anyway). The secondary long term goal imo is to erode anons’ acquired shill radar all together. Think about how bad this place got in the spring with cuckchan rapefugees at the same time as fresh bot waves and summerfags after the site going global. It’s calmed down a little but for a while it was an echo chamber of schizophrenia. The plus side is it’ll make identifying samefagging easier for newfags.

>tl;dr if your an iPhonefag and have something of value to say, don’t post an image.

>>12124313

>Does the changed hash remain constant, or change when downloaded to a different IP / at a different time?

Check pic 3 saved from >>12122449


379cab  No.12124388

Finally found the Virgin Mary's next incarnation


6056b1  No.12124415

File: 49d1b3d679b6594⋯.jpeg (6.76 KB, 255x159, 85:53, test1.jpeg)

File: e14c3a4287ed0f3⋯.jpeg (13.54 KB, 255x159, 85:53, test2.jpeg)

File: 052519ee4158a3f⋯.jpg (321 B, 255x159, 85:53, diff.jpg)

>>12124376

>>12124313

>Does the changed hash remain constant, or change when downloaded to a different IP / at a different time?

test1.jpeg (image from >>12122449 )

49d1b3d679b6594166feb8ac542bfc43568184027597596f66dd5b90170849c4

size: 6K (on disk)

test2.jpeg (image from >>12124376 )

e14c3a4287ed0f3467cfb5049f84a27431ff5af927035e115f070bd54e349197

size: 14K (on disk)

diff doesn't show any visual difference but the second version you uploaded is twice the size and the hashes are obviously different.


a222f8  No.12124494

>>12124313

>The constant refocussing on the filename and refusal to address digital watermarking

What does this have to do with iOS filenames?

>the downloaded halfchan file name seems to not change, so to know the transform from upload to spread name just takes a single step

What does this have to do with iOS filenames?

>Does the changed hash remain constant, or change when downloaded to a different IP / at a different time?

The file hashes of iOS filenamed images posted to cuckchan are not altered in any way (see numerous links to 4plebs archives in this thread as evidence). The altered filesize of the image posted by the iPhone anon is an anomaly (that should be investigated, does it only apply to jpegs?), it didn't happen to all of the images that anon uploaded with iOS filenames:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/ctm4ASxVnALk8o12r2Szbw/


e61bae  No.12124641

>>12124494

filenames that are sometimes also used by iOS are a red herring. The data is in the image.

>cuckchan cuckchan cuckchan

why the focus on 'cuckchan'. It is almost as if you are being paid to repeatedly redirect attention to filename and halfchan, instead of digital watermarking and fullchan.

>>12124415

hashes of the Same image, downloaded from the same post at different times / places / browsers would be the ones to look at for 8chan compromise.

I'm also thinking that the tracking would probably be a two part one, with tla malware reporting on browser cache contents.


7ec718  No.12124681

>>12123920

>>>12123883 (You)

>

>>Plenty of people have pointed out since day 1 that the GUIDs aren't relevant. At all.

>

>The OP clearly states "using GUID hexadecimals to track anons through their posts". We now have conclusive proof that these filenames are created by iOS devices.

Actually that should scare the shit out of iphone users.


9d377c  No.12125107

File: 157d2a5960c786b⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 145.48 KB, 640x1136, 40:71, 564D5323-40A7-41BA-83D6-9….jpeg)

File: 25489a94c743ba4⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 113.72 KB, 640x1136, 40:71, C71EAFF6-D2A2-40A8-A7DA-7….jpeg)

>>12124415

>on disk file size doubles with different hash

From my perspective the size in my post went down slightly.

>>12124494

>does it only apply to jpegs?

Pic three is an unaltered png reposted from >>12124102.

>>12124641

>hashes of the Same image, downloaded from the same post at different times / places / browsers would be the ones to look at for 8chan compromise.

I’ll try a jpeg and a png from the same phone but on opera mini next.

Spoilered to save the rest of the board from eye cancer.


9d377c  No.12125141

File: 65b275f27432649⋯.png (1.03 MB, 755x973, 755:973, F8685C1B-364F-494F-86DD-94….png)

File: 727abcf1d63ab36⋯.gif (1023.97 KB, 500x354, 250:177, C6A0FBFF-E6AE-4664-AF9B-DB….gif)

File: 56097bf96de636d⋯.jpeg (14.55 KB, 255x159, 85:53, 3B855587-4087-45C4-9109-6….jpeg)

Nigger test.


9d377c  No.12125248

>>12125141

I made this post from opera mini but the screen vid won’t post for some reason. It seems to be just jpegs on iOS regardless of browser which change size; while .png and .gif change names only. Which tells us it’s something written in the iOS photo library code which alters the size of jpegs and file names of all images.


6056b1  No.12125353

>>12124681

>bong posts illegal meme's on 4ch/8ch

>no license for posting illegal memes

>bong government notices iphone guids

>apple pulls up exact iphone that posted illegal memes and gives it to bong government automatically / on request

<bong dies getting raped to death by sandniggers in bong prison


70d652  No.12125422

>>12124177

I was one of the people who thought the GUID was for (((their))) internal purposes {whatever that may have been who fucking cares}, after which it NO LONGER served any purpose.

And ANY tracking would be by hash/watermark/etc

>having to spam redtext because anon is a disingenuous troll who twists words


38c938  No.12125516

>>12119988

<This is totally nothing goys

<This topic is boring and stupid

<It's so boring and stupid that I have to post 64 times in the thread because it's a topic that is boring and stupid and fails to hold my interest and is of absolutely no value to me so I'm making this my full-time job to tell you what a boring and stupid time-wasting activity this is and demoralize retards who think they're messing up my shilling, I mean, the shilling that doesn't exist here on this topic

Literally hundreds of shill posts begging us not to fuck up their tracking scheme… hmmm


38c938  No.12125522

>>12119988

And heil'd tripledubs too


70d652  No.12125554

>>12125522

>>12125516

It was proven it was iOS (or crapple software) file naming bullshit


38c938  No.12125614

>>12125554

No, it's not. It's CFR lame-ass attempts to track memes, and the iphone stuff is a failed attempt to muddy the waters, when 10% or less of the shitty OC they dumped here was phonefags. Consider yourself debunked, Joan!


38c938  No.12125625

>70d652

>is Fat Sister

>Thanks all the shills

<This topic is totally debunked Goys

<Nothing to see here, really

<Fat Sister is not doing what she claims to do

<CFR is our friend

<NYT and Snopes totally debunked this conspiracy theory guys

<It's all innocent iphone posters and not a coordinated raid to shut down the chans…


70d652  No.12125764


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