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24e737  No.12127588

LAST THREAD FULL, THREAD #3

First Thread: >>12112567 || http://archive.li/hlNbu

Second Thread >>12115201

CUCKCHAN MODS ARE APPARENTLY COVERING THIS UP, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT NPCs

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech

>Chris Heavey and I gave random beepers to a stratified random sample of 30 students from a large urban university and interviewed them about the characteristics of their randomly selected pristine experiences. Five main characteristics emerged, each occurring in about a quarter of all samples (many samples had more than one characteristic). Three of those five characteristics may not surprise you: inner speech occurred in about a quarter of all samples; inner seeing occurred in about a quarter of all samples; and feelings occurred in about a quarter of all samples. The other two phenomena occurred just as frequently but are not so well known.

>Consider inner speech. Subject experienced themselves as innerly talking to themselves in 26% of all samples, but there were large individual differences: some subjects never experienced inner speech; other subjects experienced inner speech in as many as 75% of their samples. The median percentage across subjects was 20%.

>inner speech occurred in about a quarter of all samples

This means that the average person only thinks in speech about 25% of the time.

Link to actual paper cited in Psychology Today

http://hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/heavey-hurlburt-2008.pdf

Link to other paper by same authors describing their methodology for testing introspective “Descriptive Experiences”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321755154_Pristine_Inner_Experience_and_Descriptive_Experience_Sampling_Implications_for_Psychology

Other related links

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/stupid-people/

https://www.amazon.com/Blindsight-Peter-Watts/dp/0765319640

https://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/2015/10/10/whats-going-on-in-your-head-the-science-behind-our-inner-voice/

87cdf7  No.12127592

Kike free first post.


72f984  No.12127601

>>12127588

Thinking in speech is sub-vocalization and is the domain of Jews. Aryan archtype thinking in images and spatial concepts.


72f984  No.12127606

>>12127588

People with obsessive uncontrolled inner monologues that are non productive are boarderline NPCs.


90b9c2  No.12127607

"Inner Voice" is a limit.

Thought and understanding exist beyond words.

Words merely convey an observation. They are useful for communication between others because lack of telepathy. You use words to represent concepts and shared experience and hope that the receiver will hear these words and derive from them the same thoughts/ideas.

But this is just a layer of imperfect indirection.

You take a perfect idea – or concept, then communicate it through experience and back to idea? Why?

And don't forget how slow this makes you.

That your ability to discern concepts be limited by the speed of speech and symbolism?

Don't be weak. Strong minds have moved beyond their inner voice. Strong minds know instantly. They need not convince themselves. They is how you become fooled – that is the path to weakness.


95c134  No.12127608

File: 62d2e4f4b2c9ffb⋯.png (24.24 KB, 738x108, 41:6, race breakdown.png)

>>12127588

Here is the racial breakdown for the study. Yeah, I know muh small sample size low power study, but many anons were incorrectly thinking the study was mostly nogs, kikes, and ant people.


d89d20  No.12127616

>>12127606

mine repeats random combinations of things i've heard somewhat recently. its all gibberish though


72f984  No.12127620

>>12127607

Exactly this. Trapping people in domain of verbal language symbols and then manipulating these symbols through social control is how the jews maintain power. If your primary mode of thought is free of verbal constraint then you can't be caged by word tricks. You create language necessary to communication your super-lingual concepts. Kike tricks then become very obvious.


72f984  No.12127627

>>12127588

Visual thought is superior for Aryan domains like creating things. http://psycnet.apa.org/record/1999-15231-010

Verbal thought is an unfortunate evolutionary dead end.


95c134  No.12127631

File: f283c5b0de66c84⋯.png (99.67 KB, 713x545, 713:545, participants by sex.png)

>>12127608

Apparently they started out with a sample of 235 females and 172 males but that was broken down to 30 by taking 3 participants from each decile of a psychological distress test. I guess it was to make it easier for them to run their experiments and crunch the data. Lazy fucks, they could have had a decent sample size.


d34ea6  No.12127642

I don't get it, talking to yourself in your mind or literally hearing voices that direct you to do things? What?


d68373  No.12127644

>implying psychology studies are replicable and valid


1403ca  No.12127648

>>12127642

I think it's just that you think in language, as everyone does.

hearing voices and so like terry then you are lit scitzo. that's what they do, they have audio hallucinations. terry thinks god speaks to him


72f984  No.12127652

>>12127642

1. Thinking in language

2. Some people lose control of this circuit and they experience it like an unwanted stream of advice that parrots what they've heard from society

3. Some verbal fags think think so entirely in language they aren't aware there are other options

4. Some people don't have coherent thoughts of any kind

5. Some people have coherent thoughts but are unable to control them and experience thought and action passively as if watching a movie

>>12127648

No, not everyone thinking in language.


72f984  No.12127661

>>12127648

>>12127642

Since verbal thought acts on the auditory circuit it's just a matter of degree. An out of control circuit can produce auditory hallucinations in extreme cases.


1403ca  No.12127663

>>12127652

>No, not everyone thinking in language.

well then they are retards, heck I even lived abroad in lithuania for 6 months and I started to think in english as that was what I spoke over there.

also I am pretty sure my dog thinks in ham, well right now more like lapskaus as it's on the stove and I am going down to reheat it soon


72f984  No.12127672

>>12127663

Note there is a difference between thinking in language always and being able to think in language and not being able to not think in language. I've noticed verbal-thought fags have a hard time with set based reasoning.


1403ca  No.12127673

>>12127661

I don't know so much about it, but I know that this is very common with them. That they think they hear god I mean, just like terry. it's like sorta the same with people who has OCD(?) they start to spout out profanities and it's usually religious or often at least


1403ca  No.12127684

okay doggo I'm coming, we're going to heat the lapskaus (she is laying outside on the stairs here, where I have set up this gate so she can't come to the bedroom)


6e5def  No.12127687

File: 31288cfa8b4e2a1⋯.jpg (6.88 KB, 180x200, 9:10, 2caec83cbd517c7a4442bb2c05….jpg)

>>12127644

In this case, it's a "water is wet" scenario. Everyone with human intelligence knows that niggers and brainlets are practically animals, this simply confirms it


d34ea6  No.12127696

>>12127648

Well sometimes I've had thoughts come out of nowhere, its hard to describe but to put it bluntly I've had thoughts I never would have thought up on my own happen for no reason at all, and heard voices before. I also can think out and hear my own voice if that makes any sense. Also RIP Terry, and I'm not telling my doc any of this shit because he'd probably give me lithium and make me go retarded.


10aee8  No.12127719

Is this really as bad as I think it is? The study is saying that only a quarter of people think to themselves in their head? So most people don't do things like lay down and think about life, projects they're working on, why things work how they do, etc? They just react to stimuli on auto pilot?


87cdf7  No.12127726

>>12127648

>hearing voices

I have to wonder about this. At night, I'll hear a combination of both music and voices speaking despite there being no one around. I live outside of a city, and neighbors are fairly far away with some even being gone most of the time. I want to understand this, but I'm not sure how to.


72f984  No.12127733

>>12127719

No you absolute dumb fuck. It's saying they don't think to themselves IN LANGUAGE. There are other ways to think. For example. In pictures.


d34ea6  No.12127767

>>12127726

Thats normal, your just drifting into sleep-modo and your on the fence between awake and asleep.

t. Lucid Dreamer


b13726  No.12127818

>>12127652

>3. Some verbal fags think think so entirely in language they aren't aware there are other options

I personally know several lügenpresse, and this describes all of them perfectly.


397b74  No.12127821

Everyone was tired of the coalburning retard slides and ended up just filtering you jew fucks so you figure this has more traction? Give it up already you useless fucktards, go back to half.


a92f03  No.12127890

>>12127588

>study with a sample size of 30 people receives continuous threads

I have to agree with >>12127821 that this is sliding.


c6cc78  No.12127894

I always thought that "internal dialogue" was metaphorical; I've never had a verbal discussion with myself without concentrating on it. My stream of consciousness has always been an abstract that I can bring into focus, if that makes sense. If I get a sensation from something (anything - good feelings, bad feelings, nostalgia, etc.) I focus on it and it refines itself into concrete concepts and intelligible verbage. However, if I don't focus and I'm not consciously focusing on something there's a void.

Maybe it has something to do with my tinnitus.


7a0f7a  No.12127897

File: b5c387352f70932⋯.jpg (543.86 KB, 1545x1176, 515:392, dalai_so_lame.jpg)

>inner voice

Are you 12 or something?


01b283  No.12127942

>>12127897

what do you mean? You don't think things over before and during an imprtant action?

Are you a nigger?


bc46b8  No.12127950

>>12127588

Kek @ this thread

>1500 posts later

>Everyone's having a good time laughing at NPC brainlets

>Thread 3

>Every post is braindead NPCs explaining why having an inner voice is bad

It's already over you butthurt retards, Jesus Kek I'm getting sodium poisoning ITT


263d65  No.12127955

hey, /pol/

what if one of the reasons that most people don't have an inner voice is because they touch themselves too often?


263d65  No.12127979

>>12127767

anon, you don't actually hear voices when you have an inner monologue

what actually happens is that you're able to think about words, including how they sound and what they mean, without actually saying them

one who has an inner voice, so to speak, can easily tell the difference between psuedo-heard voices that are generated by theta-wave-thoughts and their own inner monologue

have you ever watched a cartoon and seen a part where a character thinks to themselves in words?

thats what an inner monologue is, quite literally, except the words are different in such a manner that they aren't necessarily designed to be easily interpreted by the audience, but they are still coherent and meaningful words


f193ac  No.12128000

File: 1392368e9248008⋯.jpg (50.62 KB, 850x478, 425:239, blackquickmaffs.jpg)

>At the table on his left the man with the strident voice was still talking remorselessly away. A young woman who was perhaps his secretary, and who was sitting with her back to Winston, was listening to him and seemed to be eagerly agreeing with everything that he said. From time to time Winston caught some such remark as ‘I think you’re so right, I do so agree with you’, uttered in a youthful and rather silly feminine voice. But the other voice never stopped for an instant, even when the girl was speaking. Winston knew the man by sight, though he knew no more about him than that he held some important post in the Fiction Department. He was a man of about thirty, with a muscular throat and a large, mobile mouth. His head was thrown back a little, and because of the angle at which he was sitting, his spectacles caught the light and presented to Winston two blank discs instead of eyes.

>two blank discs instead of eyes

>What was slightly horrible, was that from the stream of sound that poured out of his mouth it was almost impossible to distinguish a single word. Just once Winston caught a phrase—’complete and final elimination of Goldsteinism’—jerked out very rapidly and, as it seemed, all in one piece, like a line of type cast solid. For the rest it was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking. And yet, though you could not actually hear what the man was saying, you could not be in any doubt about its general nature. He might be denouncing Goldstein and demanding sterner measures against thought-criminals and saboteurs, he might be fulminating against the atrocities of the Eurasian army, he might be praising Big Brother or the heroes on the Malabar front—it made no difference. Whatever it was, you could be certain that every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc.

>just spouting whatever the party tells him, not really saying anything, just regurgitating what was on the television and society told him

>As he watched the eyeless face with the jaw moving rapidly up and down, Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man’s brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was a noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck.

>not a real human being

>some kind of dummy

>not the man's brain that was speaking

>words, but not speech

>unconscious thought

NPCs have always existed. Technology and population growth has just made them far easier to control and mobilize in larger groups.


bc46b8  No.12128004

>>12127620

>kikes world undue influence and power by controlling language

>so don't use language

Should I throw down my sword too, Geoffery? Not to mention that mathematics is a language as well, should we "just visualize" complex equations too? The asspain in this thread is off the charts, and none of these NPCIDF even realize how obvious it is.


6302d7  No.12128005

File: 6dfa766a53052bd⋯.jpg (239.4 KB, 961x816, 961:816, 1498086786220.jpg)

>CUCKCHAN MODS ARE APPARENTLY COVERING THIS UP

Can verify. My answer did not get answered, so I tryna here.

As someone with OCD, I can not comprehend how people don'gt have a inner voice or thoughts. I am constantly and have to constantly think. How do does "NPCs" think else? Are they just walk through their life without giving anything a second gaze? Is this like a greater absence of God through (((TV))), (((fluorides))), (((vacciness))) etc.?

And how do beasts think?

>niggers

>chinks

>arabs

I saw enough webms and read enough about different races to know that they bloody think different than we whites. I didn't mentioned the jews, because their thoughts are just the opposite of our - raping/torturing/sacrificing children and praying to Satan. That's all.


90b9c2  No.12128022

>>12127648

> as everyone does.

When I was a kid I thought in language. I learned at about 12 years old how limiting this was and "killed" my inner voice.

I used to only be able to understand things by explaining it to an imaginary person in my head.

This was slow and error prone, there are many higher thoughts that are overly simplified or endangered by reducing them to language, which is limited towards that which can be shared experience, i.e. sensory input.

You can be free of these limits/burdens too.


ef2767  No.12128023

>>12127955

i touched myself 2-3 times daily for a decade and i still don't know how to turn off the volume.


95c134  No.12128029

>>12127733

>Unsymbolized thinking (UT): thinking a particular, definite thought without the awareness of that thought's being conveyed in words, images, or any other symbols

>We found that the experience of thinking without inner speaking or any other symbols (i.e., unsymbolized thinking) is actually quite common. The overall frequency of unsymbolized thinking was 22%, and half our participants experienced unsymbolized thinking in at least a quarter of their samples. One might explain their reported lack of symbols by claiming that our participants, for whatever reason, simply characteristically do not notice or remember words, visual images, or other symbolic experiences. However, the fact is that all of our participants who experienced unsymbolized thinking in

some of their samples noticed words and/or images occurring during other sampled moments. Thus all our participants were fully capable of recognizing symbols at least some of the time. With practice, participants became confident that at some moments they have a clear thought but no experienced symbolic representation of that thought, and distinguished confi- dently between moments of unsymbolized thinking and moments where symbols were present, such as inner speech or inner seeing.

Despite its high frequency, many people, including many professional students of consciousness, believe that unsymbolized thinking is impossible…[However,] unsymbolized thinking has been discovered in every DES investigation since it was first reported by Hurlburt (1990).

tl;dr Almost a quarter of people engaged in "thought" without the awareness of that thought being conveyed in words, images, or any other symbols, and half of all participants engaged in this type of “thinking” in at least a quarter of their samples.


95c134  No.12128043

>>12128029

I really fucked up that greentext. So much for copying and pasting from kike papers.

>>12127955

I went through an extreme degenerate fap phase a few years back and it had little to no effect on my inner voice. The only real difference was my voice kept telling me to stop being a reprobate.


1dcb83  No.12128049

Hypothesis based entirely on personal anecdote:

Linguistic thinking is restrictive because words have meanings, which narrow your field of concept when processing something through it. It's better for using on technical tasks and for critical thinking. Imagistic thinking is permissive and so better for thinking in broad and abstract strokes, getting large and complex ideas to intermingle generally and understanding things too intricate for intimate understanding in the minutia.


7a9d71  No.12128063

I don't understand how an article from 2011 is on thread 3.


7a0f7a  No.12128065

File: 1d29b54b8535e5f⋯.jpg (111.27 KB, 510x512, 255:256, Restoring_244406_5858937.jpg)

>>12127942

Do you even know how much slower you think if you use an inner monologue? That's what I meant by

>are you 12

Not to mention this >>12128049

>study shows

>people unironically believing Daily Mail tier clickbait

What are your retards even doing on /pol/?


7a9d71  No.12128083

>>12128065

>Do you even know how much slower you think if you use an inner monologue? That's what I meant by

So you think without language because it's quicker to only observe things as the emotions "safe" and "danger?"


90b9c2  No.12128087

>>12128083

> Dumb nigger can't admit he's too dumb and is limited by his inability to think in ebonics

> Tries to shame others for not being dumb nigger to feel better


0955cd  No.12128088

>>12128005

There's probably lots of things you do without first thinking about it internally that you don't realize. Like if I get up to get something to eat I don't think to myself "Gee, I think I'll have something to eat"- I'm likely already right in the middle of a deep internal discussion with myself to trifle with saying such a trivial sentence to myself. The thing that's unusual about an NPC, is that ALL of their thoughts are like that: completely wordless. They have some capacity to think, but it's otherwise totally silent. It's also hard for me to imagine being totally silent for a single minute, let alone my whole life, but that's just how NPCs are.


dda044  No.12128095

>>12127588

This is how not to be an NPC:

When you have an urge for a shit, say in your mind with that inner voice "I am going to take a shit now" rather than just going into the bathroom and taking a shit without a voice telling you to, do not instead, take a shit because you visualize the bathroom and you already know where it is and you know how to shit.

If you're a low-IQ nigger, before punching that white man in the back of the head for his jordans on instinct (because you know you want those jordans and maybe his wallet and phone too), use your inner voice and say: "ay hol up imma carefully and quickly punch dis whitey in da back of da head and take dis nigga shoez, wallet, phone and make sure to reset his phone nigguh".

Joking aside, if you use your inner voice for simple actions that really don't warrant it (like an OCD retard) but lack abstract thinking, it's more likely that you probably lack creativity and more original abstract thoughts that aren't purely linguistical (and even so you can pull ideas from the purely non verbal abstract and make them linguistical). I'm sure this is how a lot of Asians tend to think, purely in relation to their langauge rather than abstract and creative things that they can bring into reality and verbalize (inventions), I think abstract heavy thinking might be a white man thing. Sometimes when I write a creative piece, there's often not too much of an inner voice, the only time I use my inner voice in relation to my writing is when I'm correcting things, re-reading what I've written, correcting errors and such. It's all contextual.


ea6be6  No.12128098

>>12127601

Nobody ever looked back on a man and reflected "man, what a great thinker that guy was!"


7a9d71  No.12128100

>>12128087

Lol how old are you, you immediately jump to "ur a nigger"

According to you thinking takes too much time so you only react with emotion. When you see a beautiful woman you don't think "she has nice eyes," you just keep a blank mind and get an erection.

You sound like a chimp, nigger.


0ce99b  No.12128101

>>12128083

Why are all of you faggots acting like it's and either/or thing and not a either/or/and thing?

Obviously if you think only in abstracts you're a fucking retard, if you think only in language you're clearly a fucking retard.

It's the absence of one or the other that is fucking bizarre not the use of both


0955cd  No.12128105

>>12128083

>it's quicker to only observe things as the emotions "safe" and "danger?"

Wordless thoughts can be more specific than that.


ea6be6  No.12128112

>>12128099

Checked

I think the NPC's are the sportsball watchers. I find myself staring at them sometimes, wondering if things are going on inside their head while they partake in their sportsballl game on the goybox. Now I know there is literally nothing going on in there.


95c134  No.12128114

>>12128063

The study, for all its flaws, more or less confirms the obvious, but to frightening levels. They are now less about the study in particular, and have turned into a quasi-esoteric threads on Aryan consciousness and the nature of the mind.

this place has really been dead for the last month or two, so any semi-relevant discussion is welcome


7a0f7a  No.12128115

File: 174739b9d1aeefa⋯.jpg (114.18 KB, 549x750, 183:250, meditating-buddha-PG67_l.jpg)

Did you ever play an instrument? Played sports? Or played a strategy game that requires quick decisions?

It's like that.

>emotions "safe" and "danger"

I'm not an animal if you are suggesting that.


dda044  No.12128119

>>12128106

Nice NPC argument.


7a9d71  No.12128132

>>12128114

Yes but this is 7 years old and we all know that we out reproduced the number of souls and a majority of people are soulless NPCs.


7c3a88  No.12128139

>>12128065

>Do you even know how much slower you think if you use an inner monologue?

Do you know who also has extreme reflexes and is capable of living life way faster than us?

Flies, apparently.

Though, seeing all the shit you're spouting, I think you may just be one.


0ce99b  No.12128141

>>12128126

I wouldn't put any one method of thought above any other, I would look at anyone incapable of any one method of thought as defective.

How the fuck has this topic gone on for three fucking threads with assholes acting like their absence of one method makes them better because others are missing one they have?


99a2f9  No.12128142

>>12128128

doesn't work, I see a green tiger being trampled by a yellow elephant


7a9d71  No.12128147

>>12128115

>>emotions "safe" and "danger"

>

>I'm not an animal if you are suggesting that.

Please Mr. Advanced Science Man explain to me what you are if not an animal?

There are really only a handful of emotions. Safe, tired, hungry, horny, and danger/stress which triggers fight or flight.


fbda03  No.12128159

What you fags dont get is that you have more streams of thought going at the same time, and verbalising more than would result in a jumbled up mess of words with no coherence or meaning.

Try catching on to a non-verbal thought stream when you're about to sleep or something. Takes a lot of focus and wont last long, but its a pretty neat experience.

That said, I usually have an inner monologue going, and I think that people who dont are literally subhuman.


0daed4  No.12128162

>>12127601

>anon doesn't know what he's talking about

<Thinking solely in speech is the domain of Jews, whereas Aryan archetypal thinking includes images and spatial concepts.

Intrusive thoughts are the mental jew.


520c87  No.12128165

File: 2ac4eff81933da4⋯.png (182.68 KB, 600x600, 1:1, merchant npc.png)

>Be me

>White

>Have inner voice

ITT: Jelly NPCs


0daed4  No.12128177

>>12128065

see >>12128095, as you clearly don't understand how an internal monologue works. I have it on all the time and not once has it dragged me behind nor limited me in doing anything that fucking frequently as you say.

Perhaps you're retarded?


99a2f9  No.12128179

File: 413ae5848f15034⋯.jpg (87.08 KB, 501x585, 167:195, 1430702417981.jpg)

>>12128149

Nope what are surroundings Mr. bugman, they what influence your thoughts


7a9d71  No.12128189

What is this "bug man" reference? Dude sounds like he is off his drugs.

This whole time I thought I think therefore I am but in reality thinking was slowing me down.


d34ea6  No.12128191

The real NPC test is trying to visualize a tesseract


0955cd  No.12128202

File: 6916c7391487a80⋯.gif (1008.59 KB, 390x219, 130:73, 6916c7391487a806833016de37….gif)

>>12128147

Why are you so fixated on emotions? Wordless thoughts do not have to be emotions. For example, if you see men carrying bricks precariously, you might wonder if they are going to drop them. You do not have to ask yourself "I wonder if they are going to drop them", and in fact you are just giving words to a thought that already exists, because otherwise where did it come from? How can the words to describe a thought you are having come before the actual thought? In any case, I would already be in a deep internal conversation with myself, as I always am, about something more important to bother internally vocalizing such a thing. Does that mean I didn't think about it? Would you drop your inner conversation completely to ask such a trivial question to yourself?


7a0f7a  No.12128207

File: bb5b425b134eceb⋯.jpg (53.2 KB, 636x477, 4:3, 18hksv43qm5khjpg.jpg)

>>12128120

Gaslighting won't help your argument.

>>12128139

>Do you know who also has extreme reflexes and is capable of living life way faster than us?

Physical fitness =/= mental fitness. The latter is pretty much infinite.

>>12128147

>what you are if not an animal?

Human.

>There are really only a handful of emotions. Safe, tired, hungry, horny, and danger/stress which triggers fight or flight.

lol like a true marxist.


0ce99b  No.12128210

>>12128191

Do you mean the 3D model or the physical 6 cubed "shape"


d34ea6  No.12128212

>>12128196

close enough


10aee8  No.12128214

>>12128049

I think you are over-estimating the average person.


1dcb83  No.12128224

>>12128214

I'm estimating that the broad thinking is sufficient for normie life and therefore that's all they use.


dda044  No.12128249

>>12128126

Internal visualization is miles different than the external visualization of which you're talking about, the kind you see in media. It's almost impossible to truly externalize your internal visualizations in their true form (if they're very complicated), there's also an example of this kind of internal visualization (synesthesia) at it's highest form although uncommon, in the functioning autistic man Daniel Tammet of whom held the world record for memorizing the most pi digits and he uses purely abstract visualization (He explained that in his mind each positive integer up to 10,000 has its own unique shape, colour, texture and feel) You can also use the power of language to describe these abstractities if you have good verbalization skills, this is why Daniel is a "functioning" autistic man, because he can verbalize. I've got an inner voice that comes out for only specific things that require verbalization and sometimes even when walking down the street I just think of the simple things with the inner voice (Do I have my keys, the name of the place I'm going to, the road, carefully planning my router if it's off the usual route) or even dialogue between friends that I've had in the past or even made up dialogue, jokes, etc. But sometimes there's no clear and straight forward voice per say if I'm not required to verbalize my thoughts or even feel like it, though I can still verbalize from that cloud of thoughts which is the essence of the creative process, to pull things out from that complicated cloud inside your mind.


7c3a88  No.12128251

>>12128202

>Wordless thoughts do not have to be emotion

Why the fuck would you think in wordless thoughts.

Why.

There is not a fucking reason why you wouldn't want to categorize everything that goes through your mind at all times.

Hell, certain concepts cannot even be remembered, like scents, how can you remember what a rose smells like if you do not have words that can translate the raw sensation of the smell into information?

And then you go into the retarded tirade of

>How can the words to describe a thought you are having come before the actual thought?

What the fuck are you?

Is this larping of sorts?

The fucking thoughts are words, you don't need to actually do it, it's not something that you actively work to do, it just is so.

If I bite onto bread I automatically translate the flavors into words, if someone punches me I can translate the pain into words and those words aren't restricted, I can translate automatically where I was hit, how hard I was hit, what type of damage I suffered and if it was a joke or an assault.

What kind of life do you live that you cannot automatically translate reality around you into coherent thoughts?

Are you mentally ill, that you think ANYONE would require any amount of effort or delay to assign words to concepts?

Also, do you actually assume that just because people assign words to concepts that their instincts can't kick in anyway?

If the sun blinds me I don't fucking go "Oh, the sun is burning my retinas, I better raise my head a certain amount of degrees on the X to Y axis so I can not be blind".

No, I fucking raise my hand, cover my eyes and then think "Fucking hell where are the clouds".

If you cannot do

BOTH

Instinctive thinking AND coherent thoughts then you aren't human, you're possibly autistic or worse.


90b9c2  No.12128259

>>12128100

I don't make myself a slave to women anymore.

I don't give my power away to anybody and I never find myself powerless.

I pursue my own goals and take pleasure in achieving them, not how much can I work and provide for some dumb bitch while she's fucking some other dude all day or planning how.

But let's take a different example, say I see a math equation: "4 + 4" I look at it and I just think "8". I don't read our "4 plus 4 equals… so that's addition…. yeah, addition is when you combine thinks… okay… okay…. so if I have a 4 and I combine it with a 4…… then yeah now I have an 8."

See the difference between your niggardly need to observe everything and mimic it, versus my ability to form abstract relations beyond language and act on them instead?


7a9d71  No.12128277

>>12128202

> How can the words to describe a thought you are having come before the actual thought?

That's called emotion you moron. Hence the expression think before you act

>>12128259

>I don't think in Math with English

Because math is its own language you retard.


90b9c2  No.12128305

>>12128277

Well somebody else already gave the go to the bathroom don't need to think "Okay, I'm feeling something pressing against my bum. What do? Okay think… think…. I know, I remember pushing shit out of it in the past! So I'll just take a shit."

Other voice comes in: "Don't shit on the rug, timmy!!"

Your voice again: "Oh yeah mom told me don't shit on the rug so where do I shit? Okay think…. think… oh yeah, a toilet."

It applies to everything just the same. I was just assuming maybe you've reached the ability to think in some forms without explaining it out, so hopefully you could take that same concept and understand that people smarter and more capable than you have taken that ability to what you would consider "the extremes" and applied it universally.

But I guess you're not even at that low level of doing menial tasks without needing it taught to you again short-term by some teacher in your head.


e50d5c  No.12128312

>>12127588

So having an inner voice= being able to hear yourself in your head = having an inner monologue? What if I have 8 different monologues?


90b9c2  No.12128365

>>12128343

You can't get past uncoupling your thought from sense.

I don't need to nor do I experience a sight, sound, feeling, nor hear a sound when I reason.

I never have to limit myself by extending my "thinking loop" from the high brain to the low input sources.

But maybe this leads into why -- maybe you're completely reactionary. You don't go out and try to solve problems, discover new art, create new things. You just react to things: ouch that's hot, better move.. Oh it's cold out here go inside.

That's simple and animalistic. There are others in this world who have left that existence long long ago.


000000  No.12128394

SHILL THREAD ALERT

Probably pushing an agenda.

Probably datamining.

THERE ARE NO NPCs. GROW UP.


dda044  No.12128396

>>12128251

Are all your thoughts simply the things of which you seen in life and learned in life? Aren't there thoughts of which are in essence correlated and combined with things you've learnt of to create something completely new and unnameable? Any odd abstract visions or unexplainable feelings? You'd be wrong to think these words are the most definite explanations of those things you feel, but obviously it's the most highest form of communication we have right now (the Marxist argument is that words mean nothing, which is far from the truth but they often use this argument to wrongly back that up. We need to stick to thing we most know to be true until a higher truth comes to us), but once there is a technology capable of connecting you to someone else and have them feel EXACTLY what you feel, think and vice versa, then that's what the zenith language will be. Our current language cannot explain all but can explain a lot.

>>12128343

Mathematics may be a pure language but people often can't grasp taking something abstract and translating into something like Mathematics, which is a process that is very hard to explain hence the need for the language in the first place!


acd9a9  No.12128399

Notice that NPCs always require external stimulation. You'll never notice them just sitting quietly. They either nonsense incessantly, or have to sit listening to music or in front of a TV screen.


90b9c2  No.12128402

And yes. I started at that same place when I was a child!

I would have an inner monologue going to think, I would question the happenings of my life with this monologue (what a source of needless stress that was!!!), all of that which you experience.

The difference was, I realized this was a limitation. And I taught myself, freed myself, from needing such a passive and ineffective existence.


4dfde7  No.12128427

>>12128128

Reminder Hypnotherapy was pushed by (((Sigmund Freud)) and has no evidence of efficacy


7a9d71  No.12128431

The real question is if thinking with an inner voice in your head makes you think slower, does reading make you retarded?


b2bc66  No.12128436

>>12127733

your wrong also, I am beginning see these as disinfo posts to muddy up the waters


b2bc66  No.12128446

>>12128394

your the shill


a1d9f1  No.12128454

>>12127601

Having the capacity to combine verbal plans with visual plans is the true high tier.


f4dc16  No.12128461

>>12127767

What about being able to hear music with 100% clarity and depth? If I completely focus I can hear entire symphonies, including instruments I didn't even know were fucking there.

As a child I did this all the time, combined with seeing extremely vivid colors and shapes when my eyes were closed. I was also able to envision spaces and objects so incredibly large it frightened me. Don't know how to accurately explain it. I fear I've lost this ability overtime.

Has anyone experienced the same? I've always wondered about this.


90b9c2  No.12128464

>>12128431

Reading the same things you already know is useless. Waste of time.

That's not why smart people read. Smart people read to experience other's inspiration – the spark that leads to a nearly endless stream of supporting thoughts and relations to existing considerations. It's a much quicker way to experience many more things and refine yourself than it is trying to fathom everything without communication with other thinkers.


7c3a88  No.12128466

>>12128396

What the fuck are you even saying?

Seriously, are you even CAPABLE of coherent thoughts?

Is that why what you write makes no fucking sense whatsoever?

Of fucking course I can be at loss of words when having a new experience and of course words aren't always the most suitable things to explain a certain emotion, after all the word "anger" doesn't much explains the feeling of "anger", it is just a name for a type of feeling, if someone never experienced "anger" there is fuck all our language can do to give the sensation of anger to that someone.

However, if you do not name things they cannot be categorized,

If you don't try to explains or translate emotions into language then how can you communicate with others about what you feel or experienced and therefore how can you evolve as a species towards understanding what you are what you feel and what you experience?

>but once there is a technology capable of connecting you to someone else and have them feel EXACTLY what you feel

Oh, I got one of those actually, it's called

A MOUTH

A nice piece of hardware, it works best when the receiver has a software called

EMPATHY

So yeah, while I cannot truly explain in the most minute details what I felt I can however explain what happened, categorize as many details as possible and the other person put themselves in my shoes and imagine what they would've felt if it was them and not me.

Buddy?

You're autistic at best, a psycho at worst.

I suggest a lead pill to be applied to that defective wad of flesh you consider a brain.


b2bc66  No.12128477

>>12128461

>hat about being able to hear music with 100% clarity and depth

Mozart did that.


90b9c2  No.12128481

>>12128466

Walk away from the computer for 10 minutes and come back.

You've lost the ability to converse with others and express yourself properly.


7631d1  No.12128504

>>12127607

People who do not learn even a first language during early childhood become fundamentally and irrevocably retarded. And I'm not just talking about feral children, this has been a problem with deaf individuals for quite a while. Learning even sign language is enough to assuage this.

Having an inner voice is fundamental to being a properly functioning human.


b2bc66  No.12128506

>>12128481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG06XnEJTg


f4dc16  No.12128519

>>12128477 checked

Beethoven too I believe. I do have the ability to accurately mimic melodies after hearing it once. Never learnt to play an instrument besides drums my whistling is bloody masterful though.


ea6be6  No.12128522

>>12128394

Words Everybody!

I'm typing words!

LOOK AT MY ALL CAP WORDS!


b2bc66  No.12128526

>>12128519

>Beethoven

he was deaf also, makes it even more amazing


90b9c2  No.12128529

>>12128504

Read:

>>12128402

Hell, read all my posts which followed the one to which you reply.


7631d1  No.12128532

>>12127894

Jeff no one believes you have tinnitus.


90b9c2  No.12128533

>>12128506

I'm not going to go to any links.

Use your words.


7a0f7a  No.12128539

File: e292b75e3b10947⋯.jpg (169.48 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Carl Jung.jpg)

>>12128504

>Having an inner voice is fundamental to being a properly functioning human.

>properly functioning human

And which definition is that?

You wannabe psychiatrists ITT sound like a bunch of half baked Freudian hacks.


aef4b1  No.12128540

>>12128461

I've experienced losing the capability to see flashing, multi-colored moving patterns with my eyes closed, with a zooming in effect on loop, like I was falling into the patterns forever, it's hard to describe.

When I was a child it was almost involuntary and annoying, but now I miss being able to do it.


90b9c2  No.12128543

>>12128522

Hey, how do I get a job being a shill?

It's probably pretty be fun to get paid to shitpost all day!

But hell, you probably just are a masochist who spends time in threads he "doesn't really care about" huh?


d5703a  No.12128564

>>12128029

T>>12128504

I am confused by this. Why would someone need each individual thought in their head to be calrified in words?

What I mean is if my thought is "I am going to read this book."

I don't need the subject, "I," or because I'm thinking in my head, of course it's "I." I don't need to tell think the adverb "am." Or the verbs "going to read." I already know what I am going to do. Language only makes sense in the context of communicating with other individuals. It doesn't make sense in communicating with yourself, aside from that it can be helpful in organizing, exploring or relieiving thoughts/feelings/ideas. Otherwise day to day thoughts really don't need to be voiced. I can voice them in my head of course, particular in a situation where I am actively aware of my thoughts, but there's really no need to in day to day stuff. It would consume more time.


7a0f7a  No.12128599

>>12128564

They want you to think like a program executes it's operation.

See:

>>12128466

>If I bite onto bread I automatically translate the flavors into words, if someone punches me I can translate the pain into words and those words aren't restricted, I can translate automatically where I was hit, how hard I was hit, what type of damage I suffered and if it was a joke or an assault.

Like reading a Dorf Fort combat log. Jesus.


90b9c2  No.12128631

>>12128599

> They want you to think like a program executes it's operation.

This. Because (((they))) can control how you feel about words, if (((they))) get you to think in words then it's an infinite stream of hooks by which to influence you.

But you can learn to be free.


90b9c2  No.12128641

Just look how much they're squirming ITT

> No goy, you don't want to learn to think without your senses. We can't control – I mean, you're controlled if you are free.


ea6be6  No.12128663

>>12128631

jews don't like my words. My words are removed by the jew on every jew platform.

your argument is nick cage hair


000000  No.12128675

No inner dialogue = NPC

Your dog is NPCs.

There is no soul behind his eyes.

THINK ABOUT THAT.


d5703a  No.12128686

>>12128599

I'm guessing most of these people don't think in words even half the time and just don't realize it. Auto pilot is a very useful thing our brain does in day to day tasks.

I don't necesarrily even doubt the existence of unaware individuals, or even refute that the majority of humans are not aware.This study just doesn't seem to be what proves that.

I think a study on the formation of original thoughts would be more useful in detecting the level of awareness in people


90797a  No.12128693

>sample size of 30 students

>3 threads

U fucking kidding me?


ea6be6  No.12128704

>>12128693

Now, when you thought to look into the study, did you say to yourself, "Let's see what all the hype is about?"

Or did you click buttons and get lucky?


90b9c2  No.12128723

>>12128663

You're confusing using words for communication (necessary) with using words for thinking (stupid and inefficient).

But yeah. Keep fighting your own personal progress. Or maybe you already know and just want to hold others back?


90b9c2  No.12128740

>>12128686

> I'm guessing most of these people don't think in words even half the time and just don't realize it.

I agree with this. But that's not going to stop them from fighting to the death when you suggest they could do better. Obviously they are already the best and have mastered all things, so any suggestion that they could improve will be met with scorn.

Hopefully there's at least some lurkers here who aren't afraid to admit they could be better and actually achieve doing so.


90b9c2  No.12128754

>>12128742

Make sure you don't wear a belt.

Also, piss on the dinner table to mark your scent and show your dominance.

He will expect you to hit yourself in the balls several times to prove that you are strong enough to throw your life away slaving for his ungrateful daughter. Make sure you do this right away.


7a9d71  No.12128759

>>12128742

Tekashi SixNine is that you?


000000  No.12128765

>>12128742

You want >>>/qresearch/

Civ nats.

This is the board for delinquent racist monkeys.

Good luck.


0daed4  No.12128768

>>12128742

Go nut in some trashy antifa skank and cuck the soys there.


d5703a  No.12128781

>>12128742

Read, work, be coherent. Dress appropriately. Work hard.


ea6be6  No.12128801

>>12128723

You do realize that having an inner dialogue doesn't negate the lower form non-verbal thought, correct?

Math, for instance; I can visualize an answer to say, 73x15,744 without having to use words or know the exact answer. It's flattened and green, drawn out on the ends, which gives me a visual perspective of where it may lie in my minds constraints. For an exact answer, I can work through it. Given what I can visualize, I imagine it to have a low numbers toward the center section a low number front end and medium number back end.

Lets see how far off my visualization was to my detail oriented, problem solving chain of thought. Now this is anonymous, so I'm not concerned with being "right or wrong" I just want to see if my non-verbal thought can compare to my articulate thought. A test, if you will.

1,149,312

not far off and now that I see it, I can link what I had imagined to what I can see.


b2bc66  No.12128828

>>12128533

>>12128801

>you do realize that having an inner dialogue doesn't negate the lower form non-verbal thought

This has nothing to do with it, people that keep bring this up are tying to muddy the waters.


ea6be6  No.12128841

>>12128742

Hi Joan


c6cc78  No.12128852


f40a15  No.12128854

>>12128845

Artifical. Wombs.

:)


19b448  No.12128863

My inner voice has a lisp


ea6be6  No.12128865

>>12128828

>This has nothing to do with it, people that keep bring this up are tying to muddy the waters.

If you're trying to get a point across, perhaps you can articulate that point a bit better? WTF are you talking about?

You can put your thoughts to words, I assume?


90b9c2  No.12128869

>>12128801

I'm not arguing with you that you've grown up with a really really inefficient way of seeing, interacting with, and understanding the world.

Believe me – I believe you.

I had that same world.

I grew out of it a long long time ago and would never look back.

You're basically arguing from the point of "this is the way it is so it's the only way it could ever be! HA! Checkmate."

And for you… maybe. But it doesn't have to be that way.


ea6be6  No.12128871

>>12128863

>My inner voice has a lisp

That's rough. Have you considered inner-voice therapy?

My inner voice is literally Hitler.


90b9c2  No.12128890

It's also not something that you can change in a day.

You have to constantly focus on yourself, your thinking. Catch yourself and rid yourself of this horrible habit.

You developed this way of thinking as your brain was just growing – as your various senses were expanding faster than others you became reliant on them in order to map your world and understand it.

Hopefully by now your brain has developed to the point that you can leave these simple crutches behind and start walking without them.

>>12128869 (cont.)

>>12128801


ea6be6  No.12128898

>>12128869

>(Sun)

I'm not arguing at all. I'm explaining that the lack of an ability is lesser than the possessing an ability.

I'm quite literally saying that 3 is more than 2 and 2 will always fit within 3. Not only do us humans have an inner dialogue, we have non-verbal thought as well. More is better than less, Bugs.


0849cf  No.12128906

>>12127588

>25% of the time

>Not "don't have inner voices"

Well that's normal. My inner monologue isn't on when I'm trying to relax, for example.


ea6be6  No.12128928

>>12128890

There is a point in a fighters journey when he realizes that the training he has undergone is now reaction and he no longer has to think about the moves. The flow, some people call it.

Then he gets punched in the face and it's time to think again.


90b9c2  No.12128953

>>12128928

> Bad analogy

The analogy for your reasoning is:

A fighter undergoes training until it becomes second nature. When he encounters a new enemy that defeats this training and gets punched in the face, he should forget all his training, put his arms by his sides, and just let himself get hit over and over again. Continuing to adapt his "flow" to the changing situation would be crazy – he needs to devolve not evolve.

Pretty dumb when you think about it.


ea6be6  No.12129025

>>12128953

That's quite literally not even remotely what I said. Take what I said and consider that Alpha Centari and you're somewhere near Pleiades.


ea6be6  No.12129029

>>12128976

Says the anon who doesn't understand duality.


90b9c2  No.12129039

>>12129025

Then explain it better to me.

> There is a point in a fighters journey when he realizes that the training he has undergone is now reaction and he no longer has to think about the moves. The flow, some people call it.

Right, his training taught him to fight such that it becomes second nature. Fine.

> Then he gets punched in the face and it's time to think again.

So then his second nature stopped working, and since you're talking about needing an inner monologue your counter "must think again" means "must have inner monologue again"

So where did I mess up? Or are you agreeing with me that once you rid yourself of it you never feel the need to cripple yourself again, and instead adapt your second nature rather than going back 3 steps in progress?


90b9c2  No.12129047

Or I guess you meant whatever the right answer was?

I'm glad I have you who have never achieved my successes in this realm to explain to me how I'm doing it wrong.


a06020  No.12129061


fd3821  No.12129062

File: 5f162f238f0a0d5⋯.jpg (199.87 KB, 1224x840, 51:35, pol being studied universi….jpg)

>>12128742

we know


c1dcc0  No.12129078

>>12128742

nothing will bring joy to their heart like if you kys


1dcb83  No.12129084

>>12129062

Did we ever figure out where this is from?


ea6be6  No.12129088

>>12129039

>So where did I mess up?

You stated "he should forget all his traning, put his arms by his sides and just let himself get hit over and over again"

That is the furthest thing from what I was saying. I was saying that once what we know becomes second nature, we build upon it when new resistance is met. When no new resistance is met, we stop growing and we stop learning. We stop advancing.

Automatons get hit in the face and continue without seeking to improve. You see this all the time. A fighter gets KO'd and the life seems to leave him. There is no fight left in him.

Those that are growing get punched in the face, retain what they previously learned, maybe throw out something that hadn't, and grow upon their previous understanding.

NPA's just observe and react. No inner-monologue needed because they get hit in the face and just keep going with what isn't working. They've matured to their highest capacity, which is NPA.


ea6be6  No.12129100

>>12129059

Holy shit you're a retard.

You're literally retarded, aren't you?

Can you not associate Zen with Duality?

Fucking filtered you subhuman degenerate


811ba7  No.12129119

File: e2593130e3c5028⋯.jpg (6.24 KB, 251x240, 251:240, 1395773_652008511496109_92….jpg)

>>12127894

>I always thought that "internal dialogue" was metaphorical; I've never had a verbal discussion with myself without concentrating on it. My stream of consciousness has always been an abstract that I can bring into focus, if that makes sense. If I get a sensation from something (anything - good feelings, bad feelings, nostalgia, etc.) I focus on it and it refines itself into concrete concepts and intelligible verbage. However, if I don't focus and I'm not consciously focusing on something there's a void.

Thats called being an animal.


90b9c2  No.12129120

>>12129106

> Trust me!


3f2e38  No.12129124

How do they event define inner voice?

Or thought for that matter.

I have above average IQ and think in words and images alike. Sometimes I just think (don't know how to explain that).

Psychology is THE hardest science /s


811ba7  No.12129129

File: 7bfbc025eac5770⋯.jpg (19.36 KB, 289x292, 289:292, 1173887_543878675665275_21….jpg)

>>12128871

>My inner voice is literally Hitler.


90b9c2  No.12129139

>>12129124

>Sometimes I just think (don't know how to explain that).

This is you practising higher thinking.

>think in words and images alike.

This is you practising lower thinking which is restricted to reactions and associations to stimuli. This is how an animal thinks. Abstract thought and reason exists in the higher realms.


811ba7  No.12129155

File: 8f723dc1ecedf07⋯.jpg (42.81 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 561873_420821941313787_186….jpg)

Listen you creepy bugmen

>How do they even define inner voice?

It's the voice you here when you're ignoring your alarm clock and it yells, "get up, anon!". Normal times it should be YOUR voice, but in more logical way. Like a shadow of hearing it in real life.


ea6be6  No.12129181

>>12129139

"Don't know how to explain it"

<practicing higher thinking

"thinking in words and images alike"

<lower thinking, how animals think

Are you fuckin with me, Herman?


9bf90b  No.12129216

>>12128742

fuck off joan


90b9c2  No.12129244

>>12129181

No.

If you need to write out the pro's and con's of needing to use logic and an internal voice to echo your thinking versus just thinking it.

Or, observe an animal like I said. It's completely reactionary and association. No cat is sitting there pondering the universe.


612730  No.12129248

To the retards who think that the inner voice slows you.

Please read about abstraction.

Giving a solid form to an abstraction requires some deterministic representation, words happen to be perfect for that, even if you need more than one for some abstractions


63dc69  No.12129250

>>12127588

I can't actually be one of the special ones,

these "studies" were mostly of nigs or subhumans right?


90b9c2  No.12129256

>>12129244

> If you need to write out the pro's and con's of needing to use logic and an internal voice to echo your thinking versus just thinking it.

If you need to, write out the pros and cons of needing to use words and an internal voice to echo your thinking versus just thinking it.

Doing too many things at once, apologizes for typos.


ea6be6  No.12129263

>>12129250

>these "studies" were mostly of nigs or subhumans right?

Of course. in the US, "Urban" basically means "Nigger areas"


63dc69  No.12129274

>>12127608

>Helps clarify thanks

makes sense white are mostly NPCs, glue that holds this shit show together, we must be programmed to be the productive and useful members of simulation


90b9c2  No.12129302

>>12129248

Words, pictures, sounds, smells, tastes, whatever.

Needing to simulate sensory input in order to understand ideas is a hindrance, NOT a benefit.


ea6be6  No.12129329

>>12129302

A baby born in an isolation chamber would disagree with your statement.


612730  No.12129330

>>12129302

without it you cannot abstract, and therefore can't work with big ideas without them being deformed mid thought.

See programing for example, you give very small pieces of codes names, those then compose even bigger pieces of code which also have names.

Where I to work with only 'the line of the file where the code resides' to reference a piece of code, I wouldn't ever get too far with anything.

You have to give things names, and those names requires words


a2e667  No.12129380

>>12129372

>>12129350

THAT FUCKING NPC THAT POSTS IN THE WRONG THREAD


90b9c2  No.12129395

>>12129330

I actually am at pretty well the top of the game as far as programming / architecting.

Again, you're confusing thinking with communicating (with the machine through the programming language).

At this point I am so good at dictation of logic and design/implementation I can sit down and straight-code a 10,000 line project. I can perceive all the designs and interactions in completely abstract terms, and then it's just a matter of writing it down.

This would not be possible if I had to think through every single function and variable interaction through words. That's why things like UML were created – for those who can not yet completely encapsulate concepts and interactions through abstract thought and need a way to "work through it" using their senses.

And yeah, it works. Just like you can dig a hole with a toothpick. But there is a better way…


90b9c2  No.12129411

>>12129329

> Random words strewn together

Okay. I don't know what you're saying and you didn't provide any context or explanation.

So I'm going to assume that you're too stupid to work in abstract thought only. That you need to simulate sensory input in order to have something tangible on which to react.

So I don't see it fruitful to waste my time further trying to empower and encourage a rock to learn advanced concepts. Just thought that maybe you weren't a rock and were a human male.


612730  No.12129443

>>12129395

Well, tomorrow I will try to pay attention how do I get my solutions when I reach a roadblock on coding. I will see how much I 'vocalize' in my head, although I fear I will end up vocalizing a lot more if I try to focus on the process


000000  No.12129462

I don't understand this. An inner voice doesn't create knowledge that you don't already have. All you are doing is regurgitating what you are already thinking and putting it through the filter of language.

Concepts, thoughts and examination exist without a language.


90b9c2  No.12129510

>>12129443

Programming is just dictation of logic.

You are learning how to operate a computer and writing down the patterns of thought as if the computer was your body rather than your regular body.

Thus becoming a better programmer improves your ability to think in other topics, as well as improving those other topics improves your ability to program.

Both are refinements on your ability to reason. By programming at all you are already showing that you have the ability to reason and comprehend transformations beyond your body (the senses).

To get through it I spent a lot of time just catching myself and forcing myself to stop. So if I was thinking about a topic I would yell "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP" and silence the voice, but continue to think about the topic.

You're already thinking about it – you're already doing the reasoning. But as a vestige of when your brain was smaller and you relied on slipping in and out of your instinctual reactions you've held onto experiencing your thinking through the senses.

Also, your early development was mostly through education and being told about the world, going through school and learning via books and/or teachers. So you become accustomed of needing to hear an explanation to validate that you are, in fact, thinking. But this is not necessary.

As the example was given earlier about needing to take a shit and knowing to walk over to the toilet and how to poop without explaining it in words is a simple form in which everybody here can agree that they can go through thought without words.

So work on shutting up that inner dialog that runs in your head. This will not stop thinking. You need to conquer your perceived need to "validate" that you are in fact thinking, which is accomplished by this voice.

It took me about 2 years, from 12-14 to be able to completely kill that inner voice and lose my artificial limitations of a simpler mind. I don't know if it would be shorter or longer of a process for you with an older and more developed brain, but what I am saying is that it's not over night.

The biggest part to overcome, for me, was the validation aspect. I couldn't establish that it was true unless I explained it to myself with words. So I would say to myself "are you thinking with words?" and by doing so did the act I was trying to prevent.

But it is possible to move past this. After you do, you will realize that thought and reasoning are actually instant. They are not bound by time because they are not limited by your ability to observe and process that observation.

The question and the answer are one in the same – the difference between them is the observation.

Think about that for a bit.


90b9c2  No.12129515

>>12129462

This is true.


867ea6  No.12129570

File: dd22bd137087c45⋯.jpg (22.64 KB, 627x626, 627:626, 1421163943579.jpg)

>>12128742

>Grandma told her she should get a new boyfriend.

She should listen to her grandma


a2e667  No.12129637

My suggestion would be to start programming the NPCs for our own purposes using youtube virality, and lilly waves.


a2e667  No.12129652

>>12129642

Will you fuck off already, NPC scum? Filtered.


ea6be6  No.12129663

File: 60d348ccaf29687⋯.png (106.13 KB, 788x765, 788:765, whatisnlp.PNG)

File: 712211c3a3858a5⋯.pdf (361.13 KB, Rex S. Sikes - The Ultimat….pdf)

>>12129510

>Programming is just dictation of logic.

Related E-Book on NLP

What is NLP, you might ask, see attached pic


811ba7  No.12129738

File: 1c68e965aa4b0d4⋯.jpg (86.75 KB, 469x357, 67:51, america education under ob….jpg)

Check this fucking NCP out:

>>12129510

>So if I was thinking about a topic I would yell "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP" and silence the voice

>As the example was given earlier about needing to take a shit and knowing to walk over to the toilet and how to poop without explaining it in words is a simple form in which everybody here can agree that they can go through thought without words. So work on shutting up that inner dialog that runs in your head. This will not stop thinking. You need to conquer your perceived need to "validate" that you are in fact thinking, which is accomplished by this voice.

LOL, this guy is a natural NPC who was probably raised right and taught inner-dialog but fell back on his normal state of instinctual retardation. Like the fact that he can't distinguish knowing how to take a shit from saying, "ahh, I need to take a shit" in your head as a way to express what you would express out loud but politely not saying it. There is NO way you were a real non-NPC because you would know better that you're not re-affirming your directive, only a NPC who was taught not to be would think that.

>Also, your early development was mostly through education and being told about the world, going through school and learning via books and/or teachers. So you become accustomed of needing to hear an explanation to validate that you are, in fact, thinking. But this is not necessary.

Only an NPC would say something like this. He doesn't understand how inner-voice works and because he was taught one, it became a weird echo of his normal robotic behaviors.


a2e667  No.12129758

>>12129663

Any books about this that don't read like a 90's infomercial?


612730  No.12129774

>>12129663

what does the acronym means?


ea6be6  No.12129822

>>12129774

It's literally in the attached picture. Neural Linguistic Programming

>>12129758

My guess is (since I haven't read the full NLP book yet) that it is based upon Jung mostly.


28aefd  No.12129823

>>12128461

It only happened to me once, I was meditating in bed trying to get back to sleep and drifted into a state where I was the one conducting entire orchestras. The music was complex and beautiful.

Sadly I haven't been able to get back into that state since.


ea6be6  No.12129826

>>12129774

my mistake, it actually is not


f4dc16  No.12129835

>>12128540

This sounds a lot like what I meant, yes. i switched ip

>>12128526

Only partly true, he lost his hearing towards the end of his life/career. He famously performed his Ninth Symphony completely deaf though.


f4dc16  No.12129849

>>12129823

Sounds like a lucid dreaming experience. What I mean is existing music, not something originating from my own mind. It's breddy awesome, I will always have the music with me.


ea6be6  No.12129853

File: 80a7e800f8a6199⋯.pdf (3.48 MB, Richard Bandler - Frogs in….pdf)

>>12129758

This reads much better. Kinda funny that the title Frogs to Princes makes it seem like it would be even more gimmicky.


28aefd  No.12129888

>>12129849

Sadly I can't even remember what I composed, all I remember is that I was utterly amazed what was coming from own mind.

It's like I accidentally achieved a higher state of consciousness.


696be4  No.12129926

File: 454c58824349955⋯.png (116.13 KB, 500x465, 100:93, 454c58824349955529dddda0e4….png)

>>12128399

Wrong, I need good music or else I can't use my autism as well. 100% thinking when I have good music, maybe halved thinking without.


fe48ca  No.12129928

>>12127661

I sometimes have that before i fall asleep and if i m really relaxed, and that is something like i hear it in my ears. I think i can trigger that if certain circumstances are matched, like exhaustion etc.


28aefd  No.12129951

File: b6bf86d65821892⋯.jpg (197.53 KB, 1171x1017, 1171:1017, Question Tohru.jpg)

Since it's sorta on topic what albums/symphonies are your favorite to meditate to?

I was thinking of syncing the music to my lightbulb and meditating on that.


563142  No.12129998

>>12129758

>>12129774

>>12129822

>>12129823

>>12129826

>>12129835

>>12129849

>>12129853

>>12129888 (checked)

>>12129926

>>12129928

>>12129951

Each of you: Will you be voting in the Republican primary on TUESDAY?!


563142  No.12130001


563142  No.12130004

>>12199999


563142  No.12130007

>>12129999


95c134  No.12130010

File: accaba453de30c0⋯.png (11.42 KB, 1267x109, 1267:109, recursive self awareness.png)

>>12129462

pic related from previous thread. Linguistic analysis of your thoughts adds a meta-layer to cognition. NPCs are missing this meta layer, and are thus functioning at a lower level.


ee04a6  No.12130016

>>12129998

I'm registered absentee, so I'm not sure if my midterm ballot will get to me before the primary.


419993  No.12130034

File: f5d2cb6a417f1c3⋯.jpg (80.65 KB, 500x421, 500:421, kill.yourself.jpg)

>>12128022

>>I used to only be able to understand things by explaining it to an imaginary person in my head.

>>You can be free of these limits/burdens too.

Checked for autism and curiosity about what a winner you grew up to be.

Lots of retarded cucks with empty heads getting angry :)

>>12128065

Impulsive nigger who doesn't know what it means to be thoughtful heh.

I think these faggots were left by their single mom's in front of the television to be raised. They spent the first decade of their life with their brain in theta or even delta state.


563142  No.12130045

>>12130016

Fine. I'm counting on you in November then.


fe48ca  No.12130048

>>12129998

I m german.


e53ee3  No.12130053

File: ecd465959696dd6⋯.png (261.77 KB, 446x456, 223:228, 1523685413193.png)

>>12127588

>mfw it is discovered jews and niggers have no inner voice


ea6be6  No.12130061

>>12130048

You're GodDamned Right you are!

SIEG HIEL!!! SEIG HIEL!!! SEIG HIEL!!!


ee04a6  No.12130069

>>12130048

German-Italian reporting in.


08df1f  No.12130083

File: 7f6564aaab9049e⋯.jpg (28.81 KB, 399x370, 399:370, 1520855320424.jpg)

>my lack of inner voice just shows how highly evolved and aryan I am

>an inner voice would probably slow you down and shit, thinking usually slows me down and I don't slow down for nobody

>its not that I can't evaluate stimuli as its being processed, my brain just processes information so quickly and confidently that there's no need to put it into words


b5303c  No.12130086

>>12128004

This, language is a tool we use to communicate complex ideas, and being able to converse properly with your inner voice is essential to articulating abstract thought.

I see what other anons are saying, however, that action in the real world is essentially our purpose, not to gloat over something so personal as one’s inner dialogue. But one doesn’t simply act (logically) without analysis.


811ba7  No.12130094

File: 9bc23842ef77aa8⋯.jpg (82.88 KB, 1024x761, 1024:761, Maslow-hierarchy-1024x761.jpg)

File: 287ad6ab172996d⋯.jpg (443.65 KB, 960x565, 192:113, equality aristotle.jpg)

THE HIGHER MAN IS RULES BY THE LOGOS. IF YOU HAVE NO INNER-LOGOS YOU ARE THE UNDERMAN……………….

TAKE YOUR PLACE IN SOCIETY AND SUPPORT YOUR RACE OR YOU WILL BE EATEN BY BUGS AND APES!


e5f59a  No.12130099

>>12128162

>>12127601

>being capable of an "inner voice" is jewey

Filtered. Fucking "mental jew"? Really? Fucking sub-human. Jesus fucking chirst I hate /pol/ so much sometimes. The level of stupidity here is almost too much to bear at times.


fe48ca  No.12130101

>>12129462

Well pretty soulless if you ask me because usually i would assume you dont need a soul to shit. So that would be rather a matter of importance, which is what the "jews" attack when they try to manipulate us.


e5f59a  No.12130114

What exactly is the basis for an "inner voice," what does having vs. not having it mean, intellectually? Is everyone inherently capable of one? Is it a learned trait? Is it a trait specific to certain ethnic or racial groups, or certain levels of development in the brain?


e5f59a  No.12130124

>>12130094

>THE HIGHER MAN IS RULES BY THE LOGOS

>Lo·gos

>[ˈlōɡōs]

>NOUN

>theology

>the Word of God, or principle of divine reason and creative order, identified in the Gospel of John with the second person of the Trinity incarnate in Jesus Christ.

>IF YOU HAVE NO INNER-LOGOS YOU ARE THE UNDERMAN

Sounds more like the "underman" lives by the set rule of another because he's incapable of forging his own path.


8d3851  No.12130125

>>12130048

This is plausibly excusable. Vote anyway.


811ba7  No.12130127

>>12130114

>What exactly is the basis for an "inner voice,"

read the thread before you post basic questions >>12129738


ea6be6  No.12130129

>>12130094

On this note, have you ever considered that sarcasm is currently the highest form of communication?

We're using the words to convey one message to convey an entirely different message and that switch in transcription is understood by both parties (hopefully).

I have an internal dialogue which allows me to think about shit like this without having another person around.


811ba7  No.12130134

File: b7163c0311bc689⋯.png (116.09 KB, 1242x625, 1242:625, logos pathos eros 3 ways o….png)

>>12130124

>LOGOS is the bible.

You fucking suck at research, bro.


811ba7  No.12130137

File: c63e86e904bdc1e⋯.jpg (43.84 KB, 600x757, 600:757, BITCH FACE.jpg)

>>12130129

>On this note, have you ever considered that sarcasm is currently the highest form of communication?

>We're using the words to convey one message to convey an entirely different message and that switch in transcription is understood by both parties (hopefully).

Then women are the highest communicators, kek


811ba7  No.12130143

>>12130114

>What exactly is the basis for an "inner voice,"

<read the thread before you post basic questions Meant this one >>12129155


fe48ca  No.12130146

>>12130114

I guess most ethnic and racial groups have the same makeup of the brain so i assume it is the latter. That is why manipulation works the same way in every nation.


811ba7  No.12130148

>>12130146

>I guess most ethnic and racial groups have the same makeup of the brain

kek


ea6be6  No.12130157

>>12130137

Those eyebrows!

Hans Zimmer / Where we're going just came on the sound machine. Pretty cool shit.


4b9f37  No.12130158

>>12127601

>not thinking in images AND words


e5f59a  No.12130167

>>12130134

You said "the logos." It makes no grammatical sense in the context you're intending. You're saying it in a manner that would indicate a thing, while meaning something entirely different, then saying I suck as research for understanding you to mean a thing. A book would be a thing. The the "rule of god," or some other dumb shit, would be a thing. Communicate better next time.


e5f59a  No.12130172

>>12130143

It's a long ass thread and I know if I ask others will do the work for me.


ea6be6  No.12130173

>>12130146

>most ethnic and racial groups have the same makeup of the brain

Archaeologists use the skull to determine the race of the dead person or thing in the ground.


e5f59a  No.12130177

>>12130143

>>12130173

Oh, and that's not an answer. I want to know what physical component of the brain makes the "inner voice" possible, and how that differs from person to person to explain why some have it and others don't.


ea6be6  No.12130190

>>12130177

checked

Hippocampus. You're on your own from there. I don't know too good brains stuffz


507a6f  No.12130211

>>12130114

>what does having vs. not having it mean, intellectually?

It means:

- A greater aptitude for introspection, as voicing your inner thoughts allows you to take notice of them.

- It can help avoid errors and mistakes, as you verbally remind yourself of what is important.

- Deeper (but not faster) thinking, as you can use the full arsenal of language (including logic) to analyze problems and situations.

>>12130146

>I guess most ethnic and racial groups have the same makeup of the brain

Considering all the differences in average personality, brain size and frequency of mental illnesses between races, I would imagine that you are wrong.

>That is why manipulation works the same way in every nation.

It doesn't. For instance, white people tend to be easier to guilt-trip, while asians are more easily influenced by shame.

>>12130177

>I want to know what physical component of the brain makes the "inner voice" possible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_processing_in_the_brain#Neural_structures_subserving_language_processing

>and how that differs from person to person to explain why some have it and others don't.

Oh I see, it's not real until you have an exact mechanism. wew lad


92261f  No.12130214

>all these brainlets obsessed with ensuring they can only think in thought patterns as outlined by language

Jesus fucking christ the absolute cuckery of it, to be inable to think outside the paradigm of your language.


f4317a  No.12130224

File: c679bf323d03313⋯.jpg (19.75 KB, 236x280, 59:70, 724955a8fd11a41eaee5073d0a….jpg)

>>12130167

>You said "the logos." It makes no grammatical sense in the context you're intending.

Yes it does you retarded NPC. It implies the Greek Logos, as in the meme that created the term logic; what we call, "the voice of reason". The etymology is even "breath" as in a voice.

That voice that tells you to wake up because the alarm is going off an your body isn't listening. It's like a responsible logical voice that every person with a fucking spirit has. Un


8d3851  No.12130226

bug person apologetics:

>>12130214


90b9c2  No.12130242

>>12130214

Yeah, like I said, anyone worth a damn has already gotten all they needed out of this thread and moved on.

It's just shills and morons arguing about how awesome they are being dumb and how you can be awesome too by swallowing the blue pill.


507a6f  No.12130244

>>12130214

Your inner voice should have told you that maybe, just maybe, most people in this thread are not excluding other modes of thought and are just appalled that some people never even use language to think at all.


7c2358  No.12130246

>>12128065

Ok. I've read through enough of this to believe this is an extremely important point.

I have an inner voice and it's how I do almost all of my thinking. I basically audiate my thoughts non-stop. However, when I am exploring new territory, trying to organize a new idea or thinking very abstractly, I get a sort of non-verbal intimation, not an emotion, but clarity delivered without the inner voice that's usually present. However, I won't be able to explain this idea or represent it in any form until I can articulate it through my inner voice, which may take a lot of time, but I do not believe it's a useless ability as being able to articulate something through your inner voice allows a sort of Mastery and control over explanations that would facilitate the spread of complex ideas.

Tl;dr

yes, thinking in words is way slower, but has it's own benefits if utilized correctly.


d43d5d  No.12130252

File: 3f71af91d228da7⋯.jpg (192.28 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Chio smug anime.jpg)

Man, there are so many unthinking, soulless, NPCs ITT that are assmad now that they found out that they are in-fact, have only ever been just NPCs.

Just learn to accept your NPC-ness.


8d3851  No.12130257

>>12130244

Checked. Saged because we should all be in the midterms thread, because THE FUCKING PRIMARY IS TUESDAY.


8d3851  No.12130262

>>12130252

It doesn't work like that for them. They'll never know. They can't "know". They don't have a know-er. They just have an identification-response pattern to them.


e5f59a  No.12130263

>>12130211

>Oh I see, it's not real until you have an exact mechanism. wew lad

Are you slow? You see a clock and you know it tells time. Are you not at all intrigued by the inner mechanisms that make it work? "Wew lad," go fuck yourself.

>>12130224

No. To be grammatically correct would be to say "the higher man is ruled by logos," not "the logos." Don't expect people to comprehend what you say if you're incapable of expressing yourself clearly.


fe48ca  No.12130286

>>12130173

We are talking fundamentals here, you can easily determine all kinds of shit from a skull, age, race, sex etc. That doesnt contradict what i said.


f467d7  No.12130296

File: 50afa0a19a83aaf⋯.jpg (142.49 KB, 563x1033, 563:1033, black sun overman sleeper.jpg)

>>12130263

>No. To be grammatically correct biblical wikipedia search told me that blah blah blah.

I DON'T EXPECT BUGMEN TO COMPREHEND – THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OFF /pol/, to not have to talk to NPC's all the time!


f467d7  No.12130303

File: 1b27225a6ce98e4⋯.jpg (31.66 KB, 480x360, 4:3, cf2c510324da298148b369c00d….jpg)

>>12130252

>Just learn to accept your NPC-ness.


f467d7  No.12130311

>>12130172

>It's a long ass thread and I know if I ask others will do the work for me.

Jordon Peterson targets people like you.


507a6f  No.12130312

>>12130263

>wants an explanation of the mechanism as part of the discussion

<backs away by pretending to just be "intrigued"

If you were truly intrigued, you would first try to do some research by yourself, and then maybe form some hypothesis, instead of aggressively replying to people who respond to your post but don't feed you information that is up to your standards. As it stands, you're just being a dishonest little turd.


811ba7  No.12130334

File: 0cfa7b619fd33d7⋯.jpg (96.07 KB, 885x727, 885:727, beta level 3000.jpg)

Kek, just seen 4chan betas delete another thread on this after 10 posts. They're scared.


8d3851  No.12130392

>>12130334

I wish he had said, "do you need someone to come buy to carry your groceries?"


e5f59a  No.12130405

>>12130296

>doesn't know how to properly convey an articulate and grammatically correct point

>u-u-u-ur an npc bugman hahahaha

Filtered.

>>12130312

>but don't feed you information that is up to your standards

Rather I'm replying to the self-aggrandizement inherent in the tone/wording of the comment. You replied in such a manner so as to pad your own ego and justify the position you alloted to yourself on some intellectual pedestal. I responded in kind.


0a1d16  No.12130416

File: 46839d1177d54fc⋯.jpg (233.6 KB, 1440x1080, 4:3, 13242.jpg)

>>12127588

>>Chris Heavey and I gave random beepers to a stratified random sample of 30 students from a large urban university and interviewed them about the characteristics of their randomly selected pristine experiences.

What the fuck are you doing?

This "study" is completely worthless


e5f59a  No.12130422

>>12130311

No he doesn't. I see through his one-dimensional subversion and say that individuality is inseparable from collectivism. Filtered though for assuming to know my stance on anything while padding your own frail ego by attempting to place me below you, the intellectual giant of /pol/, who posts one-liners of absolutely zero substance.


7c2358  No.12130424

>>12130416

Most likely, but talking about it is fun.

Reminder that it might be a slide because of midterms


811ba7  No.12130435

File: b6292ec58abc40a⋯.jpg (128.13 KB, 947x960, 947:960, feminism cultural marxism ….jpg)

>>12130416

>What the fuck are you doing?

>This "study" is completely worthless

THE STUDY IS HAPPENING ON /pol/!

NPC are coming out and admitted it, confused, bewildered they've been nothing but programmed patterns of nature and other human's influence. They never knew they had no soul.

Maybe NPCs have a chance now, practice of the Socratic Dialectic at least.


811ba7  No.12130442

File: 34f49b493329f4c⋯.jpg (38.36 KB, 368x493, 368:493, anti feminism.jpg)

>>12130422

>Filtered though for assuming to know my stance on anything while padding your own frail ego by attempting to place me below you, the intellectual giant of /pol

ewwwwwwwwww sassy!

tits or gtfo


e5f59a  No.12130456

>>12130442

She looks a bit haggard, but at the same time very sexually attractive. Delete your stupid picture collections though, you obsessed nigger.


0a1d16  No.12130458

>>12130435

>some kike gives interview to 30 barely sapient canadian university students on extremely abstract and introspective topic

>this is somehow reliable

classic


7c2358  No.12130461

>>12130435

Interesting concept, can an NPC break out of the cycle and join the living? If so, it's a lot like what the Buddhists used meditation for. Also a lot like Timothy Leary's explorations into these ideas.


90b9c2  No.12130463

File: 54d2d2f64f14dd3⋯.jpg (57.4 KB, 600x499, 600:499, vOpuZBL.jpg)

Shit, I learned how to elevate myself and remove limits from my being.

Is there somebody I can see about this problem?

I want to live my entire life at an even lower level then the rest of you guys

Forget needing to think in English, I want to think in ebonics only to make sure I'm REALLY doing it right.


750000  No.12130467

File: 74ccd59fc2664b0⋯.png (12.92 KB, 255x191, 255:191, b1d40ac1569fd032906f519c8e….png)

>>12129510

>/pol/ has 15 year old npcs

>mfw


507a6f  No.12130468

>>12130405

Pointing out your smug and unreasonable placement of the goalposts ("Ah ha! Now you need to tell me about the how the variation in the physical components of the brain accounts for all observations!") is not "self-aggrandizement", even if the tone is derisive.


e5f59a  No.12130476

>>12130463

>lower level then

>then

>I want to think in ebonics

You're almost there.


750000  No.12130479

File: bc278dd8878c253⋯.png (162 KB, 992x1787, 992:1787, Demiurge 002.png)

I have inner landscapes teeming with imaginary creatures. Every word i use, fractalizes into the universe, baby.


5722cd  No.12130504

>>12130405

I understood his point perfectly fine.

Maybe youre just asshurt and the only recourse you have is jumping on a slight grammatical error


e5f59a  No.12130512

>>12130504

Then your comprehension of "logos" in its many variants is too limited. Educate yourself.


ea6be6  No.12130518

File: 53aac7924609d9c⋯.png (33.68 KB, 1290x142, 645:71, trumpjr_whitegenocide.PNG)

>>12130458

When I was 10 I wanted to go fishing. The nearest lake was an hour drive so my mom, instead of taking me fishing, bought me a tent and gave me a pistol and sent me on my way.

Best week of my life!

Unintended consequence, anon. It's that thing that happens when you aren't expecting it.


d34ea6  No.12130525

File: 98e4b3c6f4129d7⋯.png (126.54 KB, 1023x208, 1023:208, decided.PNG)

>>12130463

If you are serious drink or workout, you seem like you need the help


5722cd  No.12130531

>>12130512

Your shitposting is limited

FILTERED DUMB NIGGER


b370e8  No.12130536

File: f19b83cc0194280⋯.jpg (37.04 KB, 615x480, 41:32, fiona-johnson-as-the-woman….jpg)

>tfw Matrix movie was literally 100% real


e5f59a  No.12130537

>>12130531

You lack logos.


d34ea6  No.12130555

>>12130525

What I meant was that either learn to sink or swim, don't think that drinking will help you in ANY way


ea6be6  No.12130576

>>12130479

>I have inner landscapes teeming with imaginary creatures. Every word i use, fractalizes into the universe, baby.

Suspect ID is suspect

I already said I think in literally Hitler's voice, anon.


a18515  No.12130585

File: bbcf6797087691c⋯.mp4 (8.81 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Ozymandias.mp4)

Having an inner voice that props up spontaneously in your psyche is an essential and defining trait of a sapient being's self-awareness.

A mind that reminds itself of its own existence transcends any other concept of reality.


90b9c2  No.12130603

>>12130476

Shit, you know I meant "den"

cummon! u got dis now u jus bein mean


397b74  No.12130625

File: f1e8b100acc2060⋯.gif (643.15 KB, 362x224, 181:112, Sup Nigga.gif)


750000  No.12130632

File: 4e12998be9b1967⋯.png (508.45 KB, 626x520, 313:260, 2db9d3f807e717fe79cf0a77c6….png)

>>12130576

>>12130576

I think your cool mang have a automatic rifle


c7ec44  No.12130647

File: 87411d758578730⋯.png (20.08 KB, 537x410, 537:410, 87411d758578730ab276008d75….png)

There are Computer Chips, and there are Potato Chips


72f984  No.12130657

>>12130224

Verbal thought fags are seriously retarded. Imagine needing to tell yourself to get up. Just get up. Imagine being such a beta you lecture yourself to get yourself to act.


72f984  No.12130667

>>12129510

Verbals fags are the real NPCs. Convince me I'm wrong. They can't even operate without being told what to do by literal language bound thought. This is why Jews run the world. Control language, control the imaginary speaker in peoples heads, control their every behavior.


811ba7  No.12130684

File: 02909bb63316833⋯.jpg (12.19 KB, 275x183, 275:183, index.jpg)

>>12130657

>Verbals fags are the real NPCs. Convince me I'm wrong. Imagine needing to tell yourself to get up. Just get up.

This is how I see you.


72f984  No.12130695

>>12130684

You can't grapple with how incredibly caged you've made yourself by shackling yourself to a LITERAL LINGUISTIC VOICE! It's pretty dumb. You think Tesla invented the electric dynamo by thinking it out in words? No, he looked into the sun and saw in one instant the entirety of how it operated. He saw it and then he made it. No words required except to explain to smaller minds how the magic could be reproduced.


b370e8  No.12130700

>>12130695

>imagine never having deep thoughs and literally living like an animal

lmao at these npcs.


d34ea6  No.12130701

>>12130684

Or you could be ultra-chad and wake up 10 mins using your internal clock before your alarm clock even goes off


c7ec44  No.12130706

>>12130657

Alpha state in the brain is primarily concious decision making, while beta is following information given fucking phantom npc


c7ec44  No.12130709

File: 70c48860038be68⋯.png (111.66 KB, 300x277, 300:277, 6bb40b88bb0f52bb7c60e25ce8….png)

>>12130695

>tesla just invented stuff without thinking, goy!!


d26f07  No.12130710

>>12130657

That's not how it works.

Also, stop capitalizing jews, they are not human.


811ba7  No.12130714

File: c4258321f7727cc⋯.jpg (31.17 KB, 600x480, 5:4, zombies.jpg)

>>12130695

>You can't grapple with how incredibly caged you've made yourself by shackling yourself to a LITERAL LINGUISTIC VOICE! It's pretty dumb.

You poor fucking NPC gollum! Your inner-voice isn't slowing you down or caging you, it speeds you up and frees you. You can calculate so much more by internal dialog then just using dumb images swimming about – you use both.

>You think Tesla invented the electric dynamo by thinking it out in words?

I think Tesla used mathmatic symbols in his fucking head to the point of speaking in math words, yes! He didn't invent those things by seeing the engineering then drawing it out with a fucking pencil. He new the math languages and spoke them in his head.


4a5c3f  No.12130730

>>12128029

Holy shit. I dont' know what to say really. This basically confirms that normies are truly sub-human and don't even think about their actions or the world around them and how their actions influence the world around them. Can these people even be redpilled?


90b9c2  No.12130731

>>12130667

Filter by my ID. I'm not one of these morons that can't separate thought from sense and needs a running monologue to explain to them how to take a shit


811ba7  No.12130738

File: cf6268cb9b734df⋯.jpg (57.09 KB, 502x523, 502:523, math teacher in nigger ame….jpg)

How do you NPC's even do math?

Do you just spew out numbers without thinking about them? Like if I said, "you owe five times what I paid". Would you then think to yourself, "he paid seven dollars, so I owe him thirty-five".

The answer may lend to Aristotle's notion of, "I never met a mathematician who could reason".


4a5c3f  No.12130739

>>12130701

I've actually done this a few times. I wish I could do it at will though.


263d65  No.12130747

>>12130738

they probably perform their thought on an unconscious level

I.E., they have no consciousness


ea6be6  No.12130749

>>12130647

Is this the new Joan .png?


263d65  No.12130750

>>12130747

and I hope I'm wrong


f2e051  No.12130753

>>12127601

Riddle me this; I have an IQ that puts the average Mensa member in the dumbass category, I score the best possible scores on spatial reasoning and pattern recognition tests, yet I also have a verbal IQ off the charts.

>inb4 accused of bragging on an anonymous image board


ea6be6  No.12130761

>>12130739

>>12130701

Never used alarm clock crew, checking in.


263d65  No.12130764

>>12130749

that one is a regular 8ch filename

joan .pngs are more like the one mentioned in the second picture of the OP of the second joan thread


72f984  No.12130767

>>12130753

Verbal and spatial reasoning are different areas of the brain and there's no reason you can't be good at both. However, at a racial level Jews excel in verbal and Aryans excel in spatial. This means our racial advantage leans away from verbal reasoning. The more we direct reasoning and communication into the spatial realm the more we dis-empower jews in aggregate.


ea6be6  No.12130774

>>12130714

I am writing this post as patent verification to my future invention the vagina-warmer-upper, for when the zombie apocalypse befalls us.


ea6be6  No.12130779

>>12130730

>Can these people even be redpilled?

these non-people are the redpill, anon.


8d3851  No.12130781

>>12130776

Oh, and the sage is because we should all be in the FUCKING TUESDAY PRIMARY THREAD

sigh.

Nobody's ever energized for off-year elections, but we gotta be. And the primary is where we make our mark. The libs are pretty energized, and they're filling the ranks with commies.


507a6f  No.12130783

File: 827edd986ad74ff⋯.jpg (109.59 KB, 817x817, 1:1, 827edd986ad74ffca99e607960….jpg)

>>12130695

>No, he looked into the sun and saw in one instant the entirety of how it operated.

Is this what subhumans actually believe is happening in the minds of their betters? Whatever helps you sleep at night, insect man.


72f984  No.12130788

>>12130783

verbalfag efforts at social shame are sad


ea6be6  No.12130789

>>12130764

Yes, but the completely unrelated post leads me to believe there's at very minimum a bot behind the post.


811ba7  No.12130792

>>12130788

>verbalfag

answer me >>12130738


4a5c3f  No.12130803

>>12130779

Then we must find out who's real so that we can dispense redpills to those who can receive them.


a18515  No.12130808

Can we conclude that the harder it is to communicate an idea with words, the more complex the thought process that conjured it is?

In short, written and spoken language is a flawed concept, but it's the best method we have for communicating concepts flawlessly and without any misinterpretation until we figure out telepathy.


507a6f  No.12130809

File: 4c987c1e6600f2c⋯.jpg (63.09 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 4c987c1e6600f2cdaf6ca82a11….jpg)

>>12130788

>someone insults you on an anonymous imageboard

<h…he must be trying to SOCIALLY SHAME me!!!

Fuck, there's literally no thought in your head; you just react quickly and mindlessly.


811ba7  No.12130822


72f984  No.12130827

>>12130792

When you see two apples do you need to say "two" before you after you know how many there are?

>>12130808

This

>>12130809

So little awareness the verbal fag doesn't even know the source of its behavioral motives. Probably because it has to articulate them to itself in words BEFORE it can comprehend them instead of doing a quick survey of internal state. Very pathetic.


750000  No.12130828

File: 915c3e7a70920fa⋯.jpg (30.23 KB, 423x446, 423:446, 1511038420389.jpg)

>>12130789

Oldfag here. Get some help


811ba7  No.12130830

>>12130827

>When you see two apples

I asked for an answer to my question, not another fucking question.


72f984  No.12130839

>>12130830

The answer to my question is the answer to your question you absolute imbecile. Children can do math before they can speak. You're confusing the symbol for the substance. It's what kikes do.


b370e8  No.12130845

>>12130839

animals can do basic math as well.


ea6be6  No.12130846

File: 6718106a561bb63⋯.png (74.12 KB, 222x241, 222:241, 8mviews2days.PNG)

>>12130828

>Oldfag here. Get some help

What are you on about grandpa?

Check out the Joke Rogaine video with Musk. I bet Musk has inner-dialogue like a motherfucker.


ea6be6  No.12130850

>>12130845

Yeah, they have to be able to in order to graduate public high school.


d43d5d  No.12130851

>>12130845

Occasionally niggers can too.


981d0b  No.12130860

If shitskins don't have an inner voice then they probably don't listen to music in their head either.

No wonder they're so easily entertained by such dreadful and simple jungle tunes.


a04680  No.12130867

ITT: people don't read what was actually being studied, nor understand the actual results of the studied, and speculate for days on a half assed understanding of the topic why this makes them special.

Sounds like Tuesday in /pol/.


b370e8  No.12130872

>>12130860

I'm a brown spic with inner voice, and since years ago I was wondering why most people around me were dumb as fuck, I used to think it was because they had lower IQ.


507a6f  No.12130880

File: 282a278e0d7cbd2⋯.png (65.84 KB, 215x328, 215:328, 282a278e0d7cbd23ba6796e291….png)

>>12130827

>the source of its behavioral motives

In accordance with the shallowness of its thoughts, the bugman likes to hallucinate other people's motives. The insectile fiend is forced into this situation by its inability to introspect and question its retarded mental churnings.


1db31b  No.12130881

>>12130747

>they probably perform their thought on an unconscious level

NPCs wouldn't have an unconscious level.

They would have a surface level conscious mind - one that reacts to external stimuli - but no deeper level beyond that.


5f9def  No.12130887

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12130839

> Children can do math before they can speak.

hahahaahahahahahaha!

So your answer is you just do it like a dumb robot. I ask you for change for a $5 and you just calculate it without thinking.

I could grift you so easily.


d291cc  No.12130894

>>12129274

I hate to tell you this but when there is no work the productive people are the first ones most corporations get rid of first. It is illogical but the productive people almost always have an idea of their worth and so not only do they cost more but they are more challenging to management. In an ideal communist world the productive class is utterly done away with and a DEPENDANT class is promoted.


0bc524  No.12130897

>>12130830

Why didn't you answer?

It's SO bugman to fight over trivialities like "which DJI drone should I buy?"


0bc524  No.12130900

>>12130887

Sure thing. Here's 3 dollars.


164875  No.12130907

Why are people conflating inner voice with inner dialogue?

I'm guessing that the study was referring to an inner dialogue, not an "inner voice" in a moral or other sense.


a18515  No.12130910

Let's not forget that humans are also part of the animal kingdom, albeit with sapience.

You guys are probably seeking the term "flesh golem" to refer to lesser creatures.


5f9def  No.12130914

File: b823180b24f9d51⋯.jpg (47.37 KB, 540x636, 45:53, pepe fascism.jpg)

>>12130897

>Why didn't you answer?

Because it's a stupid question to a question. And it's so simple that you already know the answer, because you're an impulsive NPC who grabbed at the simplest verbal explanation.

What if you see 233 apples? Do you count them in your head, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5…."?


0bc524  No.12130915

>>12130907

I think the study was more basic, was more like "is there a voice in your head, a visual in your head," etc. There are 5 items. I suggest you read what the 5 things people commonly have in their heads is. I agree with the author. You should be forced to read his very brief articles. It's like, if you're too stupid to read the articles, you don't get the knowledge. Small cost, big reward.


0bc524  No.12130919

>>12130914

>because you're an impulsive NPC

So..

…YOU…

…impulsively (not through reason)…

…accuse.

Damn fool.


f2e051  No.12130942

>>12130767

I see what you're saying. Most other intelligent people I know fall into the spatial intelligence category, while possessing average or below average verbal intelligence.

I think to a large degree this has to do with your early experiences with the world. Jews are raised in an environment of con artists and flim flammers, so those with high verbal intelligence would naturally excel.

By contrast most Aryan people are raised in higher trust environments, rich with objects for them to take advantage of to suit their purposes. Ever watch an infant figure out the concept of a lidded container?


90b9c2  No.12130950

So many of you dumb fucks won't take a single iota of responsibility for your own lives nor work a single moment towards your own success.

Instead, you spend all your time attacking people who DO improve themselves and want to be better.

Like the fucking victim olympics over here

Bunch of fucking feminist losers

Ya damn incels


5f9def  No.12130965

File: c7b1d6ba4109c6c⋯.jpg (35.04 KB, 450x303, 150:101, 1514372922270.jpg)

>>12130907

>Why are people conflating inner voice with inner dialogue?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_discourse

inner voice is you saying stuff like, "I…. need to go to the store" or something. Inner dialogue can be multiple voices or an argument of balancing options rather than declaring things.

NPC have neither apparently, or very little duing the day.

But they're so stupid they can't figure out what anyone is talking about. They think thinking with a voice is crazy, they just use images.

>>12130919

reactionary childish impulsive responses = NPC


0daed4  No.12130976

>tfw my imaginary friend twelve years ago gradually became my internal monologue

>they're depressed because I don't love nor like them even when they try to be supportive because they tend to be a cunt at times

>>12129189

Found the NPC.


ce35ae  No.12130983

>>12130827

No, it is immediately obvious that two apples are two apples. Thats not the point. Observing physical phenomena does not require introspection. Npcs dont understand that both verbal and non-verbal thought has a time and place. Its really eye opening that retard bugmen would defend non-verbal thought, it is indicitive of high time preference, you are like niggers and kikes.


b370e8  No.12130988

>>12130983

animals can do non verbal though.


ea6be6  No.12130994

>>12130950

Here's the response you've been waiting for.


ce35ae  No.12131001


90b9c2  No.12131006

>>12130994

Shit, the response I'd want is for some of these losers to stop bragging about how they're the best at being awful and how anyone who tries is cope so they should rope.

It's dumb incel bullshit.

But hell, I don't actually expect any of these losers to take the advice and improve themselves. There were a couple strong people at the beginning of this thread but they've all gone on and are doing it now while the rest of these fags cry at eachother "Oh you betta not do it anon! You betta not be better! I've got a list of 40 words to call you and you won't like 39 of them!!!"


90b9c2  No.12131011

If you weren't so empty and actually were growing as a person you'd be called a "winner."

But you've already got 1000 nametags printed with "loser" so investment fallacy says "Why change now?"

I get it.


0fbc9e  No.12131013

>>12127684

Daily reminder to filter quadposters like this faggot and nigger who post 10+ times. Stop making these threads unreadable when you clearly can't master your own minds to begin with.

>>12127950

I was thinking the most salt was from the special children beleebing that they must only think one way all the time.

>>12128063

Maybe because I've never seen /pol/ discuss this article, and I am including cuck/pol/ from 2011 on.

>>12128115

Actually, we are all animals. Just look at this thread and realize that the rest of the internet is even dumber than that.

>>12128207

>using the word "human"

>calling others marxist

Pottery

>>12128394

Stay assblasted, NPC.

>>12128461

Me too, except I didn't lose it. I can think in music, pictures, moving visual scenes, full-blown cinema combining those with audio (I chalk this up to having composed and played music for a long time), kinesthetic thinking (martial arts, proper combatives), recognizing ratios (an art in itself that many can't do either), thinking in normal speech, etc. There is no reason that I can't think about or in terms of anything I have ever perceived, as well as things I have not yet perceived. What is truly baffling is why there are niggers ITT who have accepted any limitations on the mind. Perhaps they should have done more things offline. Recognizing the root causes of emotions is a big thing, too--but that's probably the thing I'm worst at because it takes more effort.

>>12128477

Central Europeans have an average brain lobe for melody (I forget it's name) that is double the volume of the world average. It makes good sense that so many composers of high quality originated in and about there. I am not myself, but it's always good to know trivia about other composers, particularly great ones. What is the most remarkable thing of all about Mozart is how off the cuff everything was. He truly tended to just throw his compositions together. It's amazing that they turned out so. And he was heavily abused as a boy. He was one of those who turned out high-functioning. It is too bad he was sickly and could not live longer. At least his wife loved him.

>>12128526

Beethoven sawed the legs off of his piano and pounded on it when he was going deaf, composing off the vibrations. Incidentally, if you hear things in your head (active compositional mind), learn to differentiate the pressure wave that's physical and whether that is acting on your ear. It will help you figure out whether what you're hearing is real or your imagination. I remember when I was very young I could not tell. I would be shocked to find the radio or television off when I could have sworn they were playing. That was a long time ago now, lol.

>>12128693

30 is statistically significant. Have none of you ever actually taken a stats class or done actual stats before? Why else do you think they stuck the number there? Purecoincidence?

>>12128742

>what softens genetic death?

Nothing.

>>12130701

I usually do that thanks to my time in the Marines.


b2bc66  No.12131015

Reading through this thread and I expected more from /pol. The ego masturbating is sickening. The butthurt is astounding. Instead of reading the material people are jumping to conclusions. Deliberated misdirection. The ignorance of oneself is perplexing. When the fuck did the place become halfchan? Are your fucking retards threatened by this? Sad and delusional.


ce35ae  No.12131016

>>12130988

And? Gorillas have a higher iq than niggers.


a18515  No.12131027

>"there are no NPCs"

You can't really prove that anyone else around you truly exists and is as conscious as you because you yourself have not observed the world through their senses. That alone makes this entire thread plausible.


a04680  No.12131031

>>12130907

People are confusing what the study actually means. Each sample is a take, not a person. Read the methodology: they were put in front of a computer, and when a randomly triggering alarm went off, they had to note down what they were thinking in that exact moment. This was repeated several times with each individual, so that doesn't mean that 75% of people never have an inner voice/dialogue, it just means 75% of the time it is silent. Very few individuals did actually never note down anything, and chances are they actually have an inner voice, but it did not go out in the exact moment the jingle fired. Then there is the case of people who think in images and not words, who are rare but apparently exist, because brains are mysterious and we know jack shit about them yet.

What we do know is that some people like to talk to themselves more than others. We have known this for long, considering the Meyer-Briggs test describes INTP types as "loving to imagine debates in their heads". I am an INTP and I can confirm this is true. In fact, this seems more like an Introvert thing than anything else. How often you talk to yourself maybe has something to do with linguistic intelligence, but you are trying to look way too deep into something that only exists in your half assed comprehension of the study.


b370e8  No.12131032

File: 62b1edd4417b228⋯.jpg (97.72 KB, 376x401, 376:401, NPC.jpg)


b370e8  No.12131036

>>12131016

what if gorilas are basically the same as NPC humans?


90b9c2  No.12131064

>>12131031

People are actually discussing whatever the fuck the bullshit psychology study was on?

I thought we were discussing the topic of being able to separate sense from thought, some of us having been able to ascend to decouple them completely, while the niggerjews trying to shame us intelligent folk because they've lost the ability to associate feelings with words and thus influence us on a constant basis?


28946a  No.12131073

File: 5d57645d34e611a⋯.png (254.93 KB, 1000x998, 500:499, 1450730248665.png)

Some thoughts are too abstract or intricate, thus inner speech is insufficient or plain unable to describe them.


9e5c8d  No.12131077

>>12131036

Koko the gorilla is a whole lot more thoughtful and caring than those soulless bugpeople.


fb9131  No.12131111

>>12128249

I am interested in autistic people not vocalizing without it being unintelligence


b2bc66  No.12131114

>>12131031

>People are confusing

No they are not, you are giving them to much credit Anon. They are down right stupid. Special needs. They are threatened that this some how is going to effect their self delusions of themselves. They are literally taking tantrums. Your post Is excellent. But it will be lost in the sea of shit and mediocrity.


b2bc66  No.12131154

>>12131064

We were, but it became a penis fencing match. I get the feeling these posts are from halfchan cancer.


ea6be6  No.12131157

>>12131114

>self delusions of themselves.

>They are down right stupid

<down right stupid


000000  No.12131193

>>12131027

Yeah, and you can't prove your world is not a hallucination caused by evil demon or that you're not a brain in a vat. Do you have a point?


28946a  No.12131204

>>12131159

Having different base stats doesn't mean you can't also have different base stat totals.


7ade09  No.12131207

File: 03caec3dff964c9⋯.jpg (78.39 KB, 445x578, 445:578, even.george.does.it.jpg)

>>12128023

>i touched myself 2-3 times daily for a decade and i still don't know how to turn off the volume.

jizz happy anon covered in yellowjackets,

I've read numerous exhortations to abstain from pinching and tweaking the bishop's mitre but believe it is better to clear the bins and free up your thoughts for more esoteric matters. avoiding the bate sounds like a jewish trick to get us focused on thinking about vagene instead of using our thoughts for more positive matters like destroying the fucking rats.

if you can enjoy a little self help without turning your bum into a circus tent or treating your perinium like Albert Fish did, wipe the mess off your fingers and pat yourself on the back.

now just watch the fuckers who like putting live animals in their manky holes pipe up and condemn me.


2fd17c  No.12131212

>>12116125

Thanks for pointing me to this book several years ago now. I enjoyed the read.


05d8ce  No.12131342

I am happy to see /pol/ discussing the NPC fact. This is your first significant step towards the proper understanding of unfolding history and both the past and the future. It is also a path full of difficulty, because at its depth this goes beyond mere biological race. Those of you who have read Evola will know what I'm hinting at, and many concepts such as the divine right to rule, the imperial cult, caste, aristocracy and incest and so on will become clearer to you, if you put in the effort and are receptive to wisdom. This thread however will be simple. I will merely point out some ways in which you can identify an NPC in your daily life. All of these come from my personal experience and years of observation. I am an actual oldfag, much traveled and experienced when it comes to life.

Thus, these are some of the signs of an NPC:

1. NPC's don't read, or read very poorly. They have an aversion to reading. If there's an information written, like say "This shop is closed" NPC's will not only ignore it but seem utterly oblivious to it. They don't see it as information, just general environment. A NPC will try to force open a door in the mentioned case, and act confused when the door doesn't open. He may ask you for confirmation of obvious facts ("Is this shop closed?") even when no confirmation is needed, since the fact is plain to see. They are unable to follow written instructions and/or are oblivious to it.

2. NPC's do not understand beauty. Be it the beauty of a sunset or a Renaissance painting. None of it evokes an emotional or intellectual response, since they do not have a soul. In more imageboard related terms an NPC will be unable to appreciate anime, since aesthetics is foreign to NPC's. To a NPC there is no difference between a Gothic cathedral and a commieblock. All he sees are geometric shapes and functionality.

3. NPC's have no imagination. This ties in with the above. NPC's are unable to create new content in any aspect. They can only reuse old content in predictable, non-ingenious/creative ways. This is very obvious today given how SJW's have subverted the whole of Western media without adding anything of worth, but merely corrupting existing content. Since they have no imagination all media created by and for NPC's must be trivial, inane, and wholly immersed in primal impulses (eat, fuck, etc.) as well as revolving around purely human stories of no consequence. To make matters dangerous, NPC's are programmed in this way. No imagination means no internal stories, mythologies and ideals. NPC's mythology, systems of value and modes of thinking are given to him through the media.

4. NPC's have no sense for the sublime, for the transcendent or divine. They are either atheist, a hodgepodge of pop culture spirituality or worshippers of materialist science. A subset of this is the follower of semitic religions, and religions in general. A religious follower lacks courage and daring to step beyond his inoculated memes and blinders, he sees everything through a single defective lens of this or that "holy book" and inherited religious belief. He does not and cannot experiment with himself.

5. In relation to the above, a NPC is deathly afraid of introspection and facing himself. He will always seek company and if unpleasent emotions or mental images arise within him he will attribute these to "demons" or something of the sort. A wonderful example is the 1980's child abuse/satanist panic. Protestant Christians who were unable to deal with pedophilic thoughts arising from within invented a whole conspiracy theory surrounding this, and wrote many books that are essentially erotic fiction under the guise of religious and moral outrage. NPC's are unable to deal with complex emotions, thoughts or images that come from within. Thus they will perpetually try to wall off anything even mildly threatening to the "happy happy joy joy" image they try to project and convince themselves in.


05d8ce  No.12131344

>>12131342

6. NPC's have no dreams, and if they have them they are lifted from the media. A NPC will actively seek bad jobs, emotional and physical pain, a family and everything normies (as we call them) do ONLY because "it is something that is done" and "because it was always like this."

7. When challenged on any of his programming, especially suggestions that his "hard work" and "hard life" are self-inflicted or simply put unnecessary, avoidable and harmful to him a NPC will react with anger and even rage. If any part of his programming is brought under question, he will react violently. He can't envision another path. A NPC is always actively seeking suffering, and a master to dominate him, since he has no Will of his own.

8. If you are a Player you will notice that no matter where you go you will always end up with the same kind of friends. A few templates will be forever attracted to you, and you will always end up with the "same people" no matter where you are. These will seem copies of the group you previously knew.

9. I suspect that Players rarelly meet face to face, and it may be possible you will go through your entire life without meeting another. So called meme magic that dealt a crushing blow to (((them))) is merely the combined Will of Players who never met but seek similar goals. This was unexpected to (((them))).

10. The whole of human history is about Players (think kings, emperors, pharaohs and later more obscure individuals) fighting for supremacy over NPC's. The ideal is the Universal Monarch. Genghis Khan knew it. Attila the Hun knew it. The Habsburgs knew it. The Roman emperors knew it. Hitler knew it. Stalin knew it.

Much more can be said, but this is enough for now.

(I made a separate thread but the mods deleted it)


fb9131  No.12131355

neutral lurker passing through

I've come to the conclusion that inner voice (not having conversaions in your head but leaving more towards the narrator side of things) Makes somebody less npc. I genuinely considered at one point that since I had the inner voice I was an NPC but I don't think that after thinking about it. I don't exclusively use the inner voice, I have plenty of 'I don't know how to explain this' thoughts


b43e9c  No.12131393

>>12127821

This. The first thread was fun, but now it is reeking of cuckchan rejects


002d88  No.12131396

>>12127696

>I never would have thought up on my own happen for no reason at all

Your subconcious mind always takes cues and clues into account you are not consciously aware of beyond gut feelings and instincts. It's pretty typical for your memories to be tied to specific pathways from connects between your neurons which is why that happens. Auditory hallucinations on the other hand might be more worrying, especially if your "inner voice" or sounds you make in your head are pseudo-silent.


7a51b8  No.12131414

Isreal's #1 Best slide thread award

goes to "NPC"


fb9131  No.12131420

>>12131393

link to first thread?


7ade09  No.12131436

>>12128742

>Half Puerto Rican but still.

we've all seen the dreadful photo of your snizz, trying to pass that nightmare off as 50% puerto rican cuts no cheese with these anons.

our altruistic days are over, we now require a current photograph of your daily paper with the severed heads of 3 mohels sitting on it before we are prepared to help you with anything.


05d8ce  No.12131437

>>12131417

Some use the term "organic portal" for NPC's. It may be even more confusing to those not expecting something of this sort. The term "normie" is wildly known as far as I'm aware, but it lacks the full implications of the term NPC.


090022  No.12131444

File: 43d99b720a2f6ad⋯.jpg (215.51 KB, 931x486, 931:486, wfIB-JVv36qSlSizZRafNOhfA5….jpg)

Here's n freaky example.


090022  No.12131452

>>12131342

Do people who call your facts "freaky conspiracy theory" a NPC?


867ea6  No.12131469

File: 277a5c3a2c74eaf⋯.jpg (57.89 KB, 518x528, 259:264, 277a5c3a2c74eaf72c6aa7ed2d….jpg)

>>12131417

If they're familiar with jewlywood, you could use 'extras' instead of NPCs and 'actors' instead of players.


05d8ce  No.12131483

>>12131452

Your language.exe has crashed.

>>12131469

This might be a good idea. A Player will inevitably start to think about what those terms signify.


090022  No.12131486

I think I'm very different from most people because of one main thing. I never thought with language. Ever. I moved to Canada when I was 2 from Asia, and have been basically been around English speakers my whole life. I'm in my twenties now and I can speak it relatively well, and can understand every single word. However, growing up, I never ever thought with language. Not once did I ever think something in my mind with words like "What are my friends doing right now?" to planning things like "I'm going to do my homework right after watching this show." I went through elementary school like this, I went through Highschool like this, I went through University like this…and I couldnt help but feel something was off about me that I couldnt put my hand on. Just last year, I had a straight up revalation, ephiphany….and this is hard to explain…but the best way that I can put it is that…I figured out that I SHOULD be thinking in language. So all of a sudden, I made a conscious effort to think things through with language. I spent a years time refining this new "skill" and it has COMPLETELY, and utterly changed my perception, my mental capabilities, and to be frank, my life. I can suddenly describe my emotions which was so insanely confusing to me before. I understand the concept that my friends are still "existing" even if they're not in site by thinking about their names. I now suddenly have opinions and feelings about things that I never had before. What the heck happened to me? I started thinking in language after not doing so my whole life. It's weird because I can now look back at my life before and see just how weird it was. Since I now have this new "skill" I can only describe my past life as …."Mindless"…"empty"….."soul-less"…. As weird as this sounds, I'm not even sure what I was, If i was even human, because I was barely even conscious. I felt like I was just reacting to the immediate environment and wasn't able to think anything outside of it. It's such a strange time in my life. It feels like I just found out the ultimate secret or something. …..Can anyone relate, or understand what Im saying? Can anyone explain what is happening to me? I have no idea where to even post this but this has been on my mind ever since I've been able to think about it.


f2e051  No.12131503

>>12128461

YES. Did you ever take anti-depressants or anything SSRI related?

Also, my "abilities" have rather morphed than dissappeared over time, kind of like what this anon said >>12131013 I can visualize EXTREMELY large and complex systems (ones that make cars look like pointy sticks) moving in real time, and keep track of the state of every piece.

>>12128540

I remember this as well. I used to visualize all sorts of things beyond description. My comprehension was of other civilizations throughout the universe, some more technologically advanced, some less than us, but all humanoid. In retrospect, this makes me think of the Astral Library theory.

On that topic, do any of you guys seems to have an intuitive knowledge of anything you try to do, as if you've done it before? For me the learning curve to anything is basically like riding a bike after you haven't for a while, and I can't logically explain this. Anything from mastering skills in absurdly-short times, to beating video game veterans at their own games the first time I play.


e40d7d  No.12131538

File: f673bcb5912dcf3⋯.jpg (8.94 KB, 275x183, 275:183, images.jpg)

>>12131417

>I’d like to recontextualize this information without using the NPC analogy so that I can spread it to people unfamiliar with video games. How would you suggest I replace the relevant words?

Just tell them to say shit in their head like you're teaching the English langauge, "'I need to go to the store'", now you say it in your head".


b43e9c  No.12131543

>>12131420

There's links to it in the OP you lazy faggot. OP wanted more slide threads so he didn't even archive the second thread before already creating a new one


867ea6  No.12131552

>>12131503

>On that topic, do any of you guys seems to have an intuitive knowledge of anything you try to do

I don't know if it's because of the repetitiveness of modern media, but I've predicted lyrics and note progressions in songs on during a first listen and upcoming lines in movies I'd never seen before.

>to beating video game veterans at their own games the first time I play

I've done that too even beat a final boss a friend was stuck on


0daed4  No.12131642

File: ef39168f426a115⋯.png (339.04 KB, 540x592, 135:148, ClipboardImage.png)

>average NPC preprogrammed revenge fantasy


8c4290  No.12131736

>>12131552

Things like movies and music always have archetypal structures at certain abstract layers, no matter how unique they may appear. Abstracts are categorized in tree-like hierarchies in the mind and if you are self-aware of them, you notice you'll predict behaviors based on which layers share similarities. This would be fundamental to general intelligence, the capacity of prediction based on layers of abstraction.


e57f0e  No.12131749

File: f50e9f5a3a9c674⋯.jpg (81.33 KB, 1024x733, 1024:733, 1531527212841.jpg)

>>12127648

>terry thinks god speaks to him

>implying he doesn't


b3e021  No.12131790

File: 492bec53c5e4424⋯.png (470.21 KB, 600x1401, 200:467, average_theoretical_discou….png)

File: 4abdd5d27261eba⋯.png (70.29 KB, 457x318, 457:318, when nazi mass into power.png)

>>12131642

People here have constant powerfantasies


000000  No.12131811

>>12127588

This has been known since biblical times. People are sheep, and the battle between the Good Shepherds and the Bad Shepherds is the battle for the soul of humanity.

>Therefore this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: “Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,” declares the Lord.

>Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered has come; you will fall like the best of the rams.

The day of the rope draws near.


000000  No.12131829

>>12131790

Not only do I support civic nationalism for those willing to assimilate, but I strongly suspect you are making this statement purely to try to divide the board along racial lines. You are trying to re-conceal the esoteric truths being presented here and it's not going to work. And before you kike off some non-response to being caught out running your psy ops, why don't you prove you are not a freemason or b'nai b'rith?


158685  No.12131843

File: 78fc57231faeed3⋯.jpg (502.82 KB, 900x920, 45:46, 147-self_protection_measur….jpg)

Really you think you need to be thinking all the time but it is much simpler if you don't. You sit here and wonder things that are going on around you when you don't need to. You can just go with the flow instead of against it, which is what happiness actually. ITT: A bunch of unhappy fuckers


000000  No.12131852

>>12131342

"Satanic panic" is a meme concocted to cover up the reality of satanic ritual abuse when the public started to realize that child abductions are widespread and systematically ignored by police who are often kept from investigating by masonic intervention within the police, district attorney, or judiciary. Here is a list of dozens of convictions for satanic ritual abuse with citations:

http://ra-info.org/faqs/ra-convictions/


a30651  No.12131857

>>12127607

>>12127620

That's why swype and autocorrect are so gay, they have limited vocabulary branches and slow the free flow of communication down with all the fucking typos and going back to correct a word. Typing even on a phone keyboard was 10x faster and wasn't affected by a word assuming retardation ai


5715e9  No.12131858

Don’t worry, I have plenty for everyone.


5715e9  No.12131872

>>12131852

I am obviously in the wrong lodge.


fb9131  No.12131883

>>12130657

Thats not at all what 'verbal fags' do, and your assumption that it is shows a serious lack of comprehension


b2f701  No.12131888

File: 6233644a695f4d2⋯.jpg (197.76 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, dfjhskl.jpg)

A lot of NPCs shilling in this thread. Seems OP hit a nerve.


c78d5e  No.12131889

>>12131344

>10. The whole of human history is about Players (think kings, emperors, pharaohs and later more obscure individuals) fighting for supremacy over NPC's. The ideal is the Universal Monarch. Genghis Khan knew it. Attila the Hun knew it. The Habsburgs knew it. The Roman emperors knew it. Hitler knew it. Stalin knew it.

But we aren't in these positions, but realistically how many of us "players" are out there anon? A thousand?


c78d5e  No.12131896

>>12131413

>this /pol/ is dumber

>cuck /pol/ doesn't get it's mods to delete politically correct flag like goomunism or getting commies to fuck off.

>Doesn't ignore slide threads.


c78d5e  No.12131900

>>12131344

Now anyone knows how npc's, but can anyone in anyway why npc's tend to have shitty taste in movies or into capeshit and try to act like they are in a sitcom?


7ade09  No.12131910

>>12131342

>Protestant Christians who were unable to deal with pedophilic thoughts arising from within invented a whole conspiracy theory surrounding this, and wrote many books that are essentially erotic fiction under the guise of religious and moral outrage.

will jump on this because it is rare to be able to opine on that particular subject without raising pitchforks. I'd put anyone who sexually abuses a child to death if it could be proved they had committed the crime. I'd do it quickly, no fucking around, I don't care in the slightest that people can learn from their mistakes. Life is tricky enough without sexual abuse fouling the waters. That said, as boys we generally begin taking notice of girls around the age of 12, give or take a year or two just to allay the faggots who started noticing earlier/later than me. We noticed them for a reason, even if we couldn't really explain why but all of a sudden they become something to showoff in front of, you could hit the concrete face first in front of one of the weird things and brush it off as a mere trifling until you were out of her sight.

a sane man gradually matures and, because he is sane/educated, understands there are certain things he needs to leave behind as he moves forward into adulthood. One of those things is chasing young girls. Nothing wrong with a man noticing a young girl and thinking to himself `there goes a heartbreaker' but those girls `belong' to the generation of young men pulling wheelies and hitting the concrete playground at the schools they all attend. Doesn't matter that the girls 9 times out of 10 aren't interested, or pretend not to be, in the thirsty young dudes who used to flick bogies at them.

There should be no tolerance for child abusers, yet the kikes keep striving to legitimise the depravity. I look forward to killing them as I find them.


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440746  No.12131930

>>12127648

inner voice IS thinking in language you tard


123a45  No.12131946

>>12131344

I've always had this weird thing where I have what one would call a first person view in video games. Like I am the one with a fixed camera at eyeball level and you'd play a game through me. It's not like how I imagine everyone else sees things and recognizes their existence, like I'm unique in this experience and I specifically am the playable character. The term "Player" is what I'd always described myself as, before I ever learned about the simulated reality theory and before I thought of classifying everyone else as NPCs. I assume and hope there are other "Players" like myself out there, and have proof only they could possibly know through experiencing it like I am but will never be able to have other fully experience what they live through. It's truly an isolating experience that I've had to deal with all my life since, I'd say, I was 3 years old.

I also never tell anyone about this, except some kind of religious psychic one time. They hypothesized I indeed was viewing reality through a camera, which was revelatory. So if I see your post, it is being broadcast to whoever is watching behind the screen. That's about all I can say because talking about it is always physically and mentally taxing, and I end up not talking about it for a while until another moment of inspiration comes.

>>12131888

Those trips are criminally unchecked


72f072  No.12131950

ITT: Salty NPCs being salty because they can't formulate thoughts internally and are output-only.


0daed4  No.12131956

>>12131342

>3. NPC's have no imagination. This ties in with the above. NPC's are unable to create new content in any aspect. They can only reuse old content in predictable, non-ingenious/creative ways.

This, in so many ways. Whenever I draw something, they always ask me what video game/cartoon/film it's from. I just simply tell them that it's not from anything, since I don't know how to respond appropriately.


028853  No.12131990

File: a149c5b539cbfb1⋯.png (195.88 KB, 1618x900, 809:450, 1536536116473.png)

File: 0a5e46f2d9f6778⋯.png (199.52 KB, 1618x900, 809:450, 1522448914293.png)

Are all NPCs normies? Is it restricted to those that are incapable of it? Do you have to have a running inner monologue every second of the day? If not, what's the acceptable limit to not qualify as an NPC?


8c4290  No.12132012

>>12131950

Put like that, then it should be possible to gradually introduce the concept of inner monologue by encouraging them to write a journal, and have them contemplate the meaning of what they've written about themselves. Over time they would end up internalizing the process without needing to physically write it down.


158685  No.12132030

>>12132012

I keep a journal. Sometimes I only write a little bit but I make sure to write every day.

9/10/2018

It just occured to me that I could toast any kind of bread for any reason. Normally I just toast my bread for chicken sandwiches but I realized that I could also toast it for a peanut butter and jelly sandiwch.


4250f8  No.12132042

There is literally nothing wrong with NPCs, they provide a decent service and help advance the goals of main characters. Just because we don't have another voice doesn't we don't have fun. If you cut us do we not bleed? Yeah and they also get a lot of pussy something I bet nobody here of us would ever get. To me NPCs are our greatest ally and need to be uplifted


0955cd  No.12132049

>>12128277

>That's called emotion you moron

Wrong


bc46b8  No.12132060

>>12131889

>We're not all literally Hitlers

Are you so sure? Can you be completely certain which of us will become one? Sleep well on that thought. The rise of the leader is inevitable. No matter how many people are eliminated, the idea remains.


4f8b34  No.12132068

Told you not to crash.


05d8ce  No.12132070

File: a47e95a15723f2f⋯.jpg (141.21 KB, 600x632, 75:79, 706766940.jpg)

>>12131889

The open position of a king or emperor is preferable and honest - but only possible in a healthy society. We're thousands of years too late for that. Lao Tzu advises utter obscurity.

Tao Te Ching is to be read and understood by Players. Emphasis on understood.

>how many

I don't know. I can't know. The only numbers mentioned in texts seem to be symbolic rather than a measure of quantity.

>>12131900

As I've stated, every form of media NPC's like or consume will be rudimentary and without depth. However, be aware that NPC's also flock to "trendy" things. Both anime and /pol/ itself are an example of this. Anime has become "popular" and NPC's latched on to it, but display utter confusion and anger over staples of anime which have existed since the beginning and made people like it in the first place. NPC's do not grasp this. /pol/ after Trump's victory drew in swarms of NPC's who mimick our mentality and talking points, but they do so like NPC's do these things.

These are natural things. NPC's will be drawn to things Players like or do, like moths to a lightbulb.

>>12131910

The reason why the whole world suddenly became degenerate so fast and so hard is because Players on both sides share similar sexual tastes. I will leave it at that.

>>12131946

I'm fairly certain I know what you mean.

>>12131956

Indeed. I wish you luck with creation.


72f072  No.12132098

>>12132012

Not surprisingly, this IS exactly how they do it by having you vocalize internally your plans for the future, your current fears etc. in psychiatry to help with depression and anxiety.

That and to have imaginary conversations with people you know or famous people.


0955cd  No.12132106

File: a5ee2a26844405a⋯.jpg (117.31 KB, 600x450, 4:3, a5ee2a26844405ac39b8c9a699….jpg)

>>12128251

>Why the fuck would you think in wordless thoughts.

It's 100x faster, and allows for more freedom? Obviously not exclusively.

>Hell, certain concepts cannot even be remembered

That's what words are for, I didn't say NOT to use them! Words make these ethereal thoughts concrete, and easier to contemplate. Writing them down makes them last even longer.

>What kind of life do you live that you cannot automatically translate reality around you into coherent thoughts?

OF COURSE I can, but the "translating" part is exactly my point. You are translating something that already exists, and understand. I'm not saying I can't or that you shouldn't, where in the fuck are you getting this?

>If I bite onto bread I automatically translate the flavors into words

You talk to yourself about what bread tastes like? You could be having an internal monologue about literally anything while that happens, but you put a stop to it to think "mmm, this bread tastes like bread", and then go back to what you were thinking of? Or do you automatically dictate every aspect of your life to yourself? Or do you have two overlapping sentences?

>Are you mentally ill, that you think ANYONE would require any amount of effort or delay to assign words to concepts?

The effort and delay in translation itself is just so insignificantly small that it is virtually nothing, less than milliseconds. But actually saying a sentence from start to finish will always take time.

>If you cannot do

>BOTH

>Instinctive thinking AND coherent thoughts then you aren't human, you're possibly autistic or worse.

Yes, I couldn't agree more.


66a400  No.12132127

File: 3e2326d658c43d3⋯.png (153.93 KB, 450x299, 450:299, camp smiley face.png)

There was a time when we would troll the fuck out of researchers using the chans.

"I am a meat popsicle and think hexagons"


f2e051  No.12132133

>>12132070

>These are natural things. NPC's will be drawn to things Players like or do, like moths to a lightbulb.

Let me reword that so someone non-autistic can undersand.

Us players (meme magicians, leaders, etc.) are like Big brothers, and the normies look up to us. Seriously, the paradigm plays out again and again. Players are organic-trend-setters.


000000  No.12132186

>>12127601

>everyone smarter than me is jewish


b2f701  No.12132188

So anyone has come up with an innocent way to test if someone is a player or a NPC?

Btw, through my work I know some moslim women and I'm certain they are all NPCs.


000000  No.12132189

>>12132188

Yeah. When you are standing next to them, do nothing for exactly five seconds. If they pull out their phone, they are an NPC.


b2f701  No.12132205

>>12132189

Good one. One other thing that comes to mind is, that NPCs can't tolerate silence. Always listenning to music or have the TV on. Can't fall asleep without music or TV. Perhaps because they don't have the inner dialogue they need to fill that void with with noise or chatter.


72f072  No.12132226

>>12132188

I've noticed two things: First is the inability to appreciate beauty as an objective standard even for things that they don't find to be pleasurable.

Second is the inability to process examples, metaphor or hyperbole. NPCs always listen or skim just long enough to latch on to something they can protest or rebut and then they twist your example into an equivocation.


e80b86  No.12132256

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

So TL;DR… is having a inner dialogue a good thing or a bad thing according to /pol/ census? Hoping I'm not a kike

This debate is interesting though, and how might it relate to schizophrenia, are schizophrenics really NPCs that don't control over their inner dialog?


db81e7  No.12132274

>>12127601

Changing my thinking from sub-vocalization to visualization has helped with my depression. I still sub-vocalize, but not nearly as much.


e80b86  No.12132279

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Also, if not having an inner dialogue was a common occurrence, then why was "Scrubs" such a popular show? A shouldn't the Internet have been freaking out about it?


ea6be6  No.12132292

>>12132279

Should we let him in on the joke yet, guys?


76419c  No.12132293

>>12132279

It was mostly popular with white people, and I think the study's results were skewed by sampling inner city types.


8c4290  No.12132302

>>12132226

So incapable of reading between the lines as well in a sense? Because if someone isn't contemplating the overall meaning of a statement, they would miss the implied context embedded in it.

As for appreciating beauty, I notice that it's usually gauged on observation of elegant patterns which conform to continuity, harmonies and/or symmetries. Like a perfectly health orange is appealing to look at, because it lacks any irregularities on its surface like mold or discoloration. Same goes for seeing a portrait of a woman bearing smooth curvatures and texture of skin. Even abstract shapes can have a sense of beauty if you able to discern mathematical harmony within them.


e80b86  No.12132319

>>12132302

>Same goes for seeing a portrait of a woman bearing smooth curvatures and texture of skin. Even abstract shapes can have a sense of beauty if you able to discern mathematical harmony within them.

Ability to compose a photograph might be a good test for this. A group of people asked me to take a photo of them recently, so I touch focused and rotated the phone to landscape, and they looked at it and were amazed, "wow, look how he got in all the background." Like they didn't have any greater grasp on taking a picture than snapping nude selfies in the mirror…


aa70aa  No.12132356

>>12127601

It's not that we solely think in words, it's that we use words to articulate our thoughts. Think about the following scenario:

<A young child misbehaves in the classroom

This child could be a mere animal (NPC) or a human, but it is dependent upon his reaction. He knows that he wants to stop listening to the teacher and start doing his own thing; but does he ponder WHY?

Now the 'why' might be that he finds the class material beneath him and thus is unable to hold his attention – so he acts out, it might be that the class material is too complicated for him and he cannot keep up – so he finds another avenue to express his discomfort; or it might be that he desires to do something else, something that he believes to be more important than whatever the teacher is explaining. If the child articulates this in his mind and is able to verify the reason for his misbehaviour then he will be better able to mold himself into something productive in the future (and do note that this may still mean he ignores the teacher, but he must understand why he is doing it).

The nigger child would just chimp out and leave it at that; he might conclude that he is 'bored', but he will never think to ascertain WHY he is bored and thus never be able to adequately address it. Rather than do catch-up work so that he can understand the teacher the next time, or bring his own more advanced work that can hold his interest; or perhaps even embark down another avenue that he considers more productive and valuable; he simply chimps out and never questions it - and then the next day he will chimp out again, and never question it. And the next day, and the next day, and the next day. He will never advance, and the reason is because he never articulated his thoughts and feelings but instead merely acted upon a vague impression of them.

That is what we mean by 'inner dialogue' or 'inner voice'. It is not that we do not feel or see in our mind, it is that we use language to better understand what we are seeing and feeling; and we use that to further our own advancement, our own understanding.


f08f55  No.12132362

>>12128461

Congratulations you have Synesthesia


72f072  No.12132370

>>12132302

>incapable of reading between the lines as well in a sense?

Yes but also the ability to read things in good faith. Ie. I make some assertion and use an example to clarify what I mean. If you're an NPC you'll start attacking the example instead of trying to understand the point of the assertion.

"Hitler build a lot of infrastructure really efficiently during the war" "Oh, so you're saying the nazis were good because they built roads?! REEEEEEE"


f08f55  No.12132383

>>12131946

I also experience this, if I understood you correctly.

“I” am not in my body, I am a degree or two removed, playing life through the control apparatus of my body.


b669c6  No.12132391

>vols will defend slide threads

Really activates the almonds.


498833  No.12132397

>>12132370

They are the reason we have the road systems we do these days.


c43d18  No.12132399

>>12132362

Synthesha is more like two senses getting all mixed and confused, like tasting color or seeing sound. Its rare but it exsists.


8c4290  No.12132400

>>12132370

To them the moment the word Hitler is mentioned, it likely overwhelms all other memory sensations to favor the negative impressions they're feeling about Hitler. It's a thought termination process because it effectively seizes up ability for further thought.

One trick to evade it is to play on trigger more positive sensations prior or during making a controversial claim to them. So when it's triggered it fails to completely dominate, leaving an avenue open for some further thought to continue. Humor is the best weapon for this.


f08f55  No.12132406

>>12131342

>>12131344

Where to look for more info on this?


cb7a72  No.12132430

>>12131344

>6th

get out of your ass, if anything this one describes being human and dealing with reality to the tee;

tragedy archetypes, self-destruction, this isn't simply a matter of lack of existential depth and dreams


e258f5  No.12132481

>>12131829

>but I strongly suspect you are making this statement

I reread your's two posts twice and I cannot comprehend them. The statement that /pol/ has powerfantasies is true, what do you want to argue against?


72f072  No.12132495

>>12132400

OH SO YOU THINK THE NAZIS WERE FUNNY, HUH?!


9ae57b  No.12132496

>>12128251

Just bring and object to your mental nose and give it a sniff. Wow, mental smell.


8c4290  No.12132507

>>12132495

kek, I see what you mean. But still it has to be delivered in subtle qualities and context is key. It's rather subjective on knowing how to express ideas to others who react like that. Because it requires understanding how receptive a person is to certain information.


3abb9b  No.12132523

>>12128461

yeah i do it all the time

if you can't imagine everything you want exactly as you want it in your inner universe then why even live?

Are you even alive if you can not?


b2bc66  No.12132531

The amount of butt hurt is astounding. To understand what a NPC is and the internal monologue requires abstract thinking. Something humans can do extremely well. Something we inherited from our caveman ancestors. This was a necessity when hunting large game. Those who are having great difficulty wrapping their minds around this concept actually have a diminished cognitive capability. That itself is fascinating. Without outside box thing, we would not have rockets, computers, cars, medicine, nuclear reactors. We also would have never sailed across the sea. It is necessary for our existence and our future as humans. It allows us to imagine whats beyond our planet. It is as important as our capacity to love, and to be loved.


c727b0  No.12132546

>>12132279

>>12132256

>>12132319

Shut the fuck up, you retarded semi-sapient NPC. Shut your moth and let men speak. God, everything about the way you people post and think is so goddamn insufferable.


c727b0  No.12132552

And yes, your little monkey brain is going to have a field day with the fact that I typed 'moth' instead of 'mouth'.


72f072  No.12132564

>>12132507

The nazi thing was just a hyperbolic example. It's anything. I think it has more to do with demoralization and lack of purpose that makes someone an NPC. They don't care. You can't get a demoralized person to change his mind about anything because he isn't really invested in anything.

Practically no-one in a political rally has any idea of why they're actually there other than "Other side bad! Me mad!"

The antidote is a purpose. Not build-a-house purpose necessarily but a sense of who you are and what you are doing and a desire to improve yourself.


ca827f  No.12132566

>>12132356

> If the child articulates this in his mind and is able to verify the reason for his misbehaviour then he will be better able to mold himself into something productive in the future

Your presupposition here is that the situation the intelligent child is living through has a connection to later productivity. But if that child sees school as a time waster, because e.g. it could be spending it reading the last two Harry Potter books or learning programming or doing chores (maybe…) while the rest of the class still learns to read and write U to Z, then no introspection of this world will get that child to behave. Any teacher worth his salt wont scold the child for being overly motivated, but give that child the chance to go read in the library. Maybe he has to formulate this to the class as punishment, but this only works with under 10 year olds. Later they'll drag him down because he be nerday.

I agree with everything you say, just wanted to nitpick.


ca827f  No.12132582

>>12130894

Correct, profitable != productive. Also productive, aka the well educated and workers with skills can switch companies, while the dumb stay and rake in the dough for doing nothing. This is also a reason why transnationals sometimes just let go of a thousand-strong branch, despite that branch having some merit - to shed of the rubes to other transnationals and increasing relative advantage. They wrote about this in the 80ies and since then they talk about "leadership" and that only.


a9a3ba  No.12132597

>>12127588

>CUCKCHAN MODS ARE APPARENTLY COVERING THIS UP, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT NPCs

Have you tried NOT posting threads about it on the video games board?

This information has been available worldwide in pop-sci clickbait format for seven years. The only reason cuckchan mods are deleting it now is because you're posting off topic, spamming and ban evading.


ca827f  No.12132607

>>12128022

>This was slow and error prone,

This is really important. You don't learn languages or concepts by verbalization, but by feeling and "just knowing" what and how it is, behaves and relates. The latter verb there is the most important.

A tree is that thing and a Baum is that thing too. There is NO CONNECTION BETWEEN TREE AND BAUM. None. They tell pupils that "tree" means "Baum" in English, but it doesn't. There is that brown-green thing and the Anglos say tree and the Germans say Baum when they see it.

I "healed" many little children of so called learning difficulties when I told them just that. Miraculously getting a note/mark or two better with changing their efforts, just switching some mental relays.


c727b0  No.12132611

It's really a sliding scale, and some people can definitely be lifted out of their NPC-dom with some coaxing. I honestly don't think I've ever met a fully white person that I've looked in the eye and said, "Yep, there's absolutely nothing there." Whereas I can literally do that with about half of brown people.

If someone likes sportsball or whatever, yeah, they're probably a dumbass, but if they're white, they have a soul.


b2bc66  No.12132621

>>12132597

I been following and cross pollinating posts. They are posting in /pol. At first the mods deleted the threads, now they are moving them to /bant. So the threads become a free for all.


c727b0  No.12132624

>>12132621

> /pol

Lurk for two years.


8c4290  No.12132633

>>12132564

I think there's still some sort of investment but it's rather superficial and would require immense amounts of work to build on its foundations. In some rarer cases there's probably people who are way more capable than they realize, but are trapped in their own minds due to poor verbal expression of such thoughts. I think the NPC state is even escapable if a person develops a yearning for wondering why they exist. Any spark of self-discovery would do, whenever it's tracing your roots or like you say, desiring purpose in life. It ultimately requires them to ask questions to themselves.


b2bc66  No.12132641

>>12132624

I am an oldfag dumb fuck. Not knowing how this works makes you a new-fag. This is how it has been and how it always will be. Where do you think half-chan gets a large percentage of it memes from?


c727b0  No.12132649

>>12132641

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm just pointing out that it's typed '/pol/'. Not

>pol

>POL

>/pol

You outsider fucks may think it's silly, but it's the number one way to catch you retards in the act.


1511b0  No.12132654

>>12132641

>im an oldfag eksdee

its /pol/

get it right.


ca827f  No.12132655

File: dd64ee17dc7a38e⋯.mp4 (4.56 MB, 640x272, 40:17, adolf-commercial.mp4)

File: 7931a08d9f13785⋯.webm (6.15 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Adolf.webm)

>>12132495

I A/B-tested this with those two webbems. >>12131486

> I understand the concept that my friends are still "existing" even if they're not in site by thinking about their names.

lolwut?!


b2bc66  No.12132663

>>12132649

/pol is halfchan speak, /pol/ is god tier speak. Learn the difference.


c727b0  No.12132671

>>12132663

This is an NPC. When caught in a lie, and exposed as a total fucking retard, he literally pulls nonsense out of his ass, and expects veterans of this website to believe it. Absolutely no self-awareness, and even less situational awareness. A complete nigger.

Gas the NPCs, server war now.


1511b0  No.12132674

>>12132671

NPC is a forced meme. Even so >>12132663 is goddamn retarded.


c727b0  No.12132679

>>12132674

>NPC is a forced meme

Are you in the right thread, son?


72f072  No.12132683

>>12132674

Found the shoe-size IQ NPC without an inner voice.


b2bc66  No.12132700

>>12132679

He's one of the refugees left over from halfchans server crash a few months back. Still hasn't figured out how things work here.


c727b0  No.12132702

>>12132700

Says the guy who fucked up '/pol/'


0955cd  No.12132703

File: e4b48912fc4d182⋯.gif (1.47 MB, 320x240, 4:3, f7d1814b679e23dd475d31ff46….gif)

>>12131956

>Whenever I draw something, they always ask me what video game/cartoon/film it's from

This. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. It drived me up the fucking wall so much I just stopped drawing around people.


72f072  No.12132711

>>12132700

>halfchans server crash a few months back

Quick rundown? What happened?


b2bc66  No.12132716

>>12132711

We got flooded with retards from halfchan on and of for a week and they shitted up our /pol/


8c4290  No.12132718

>>12132716

I swear those crashes are practically a monthly thing for years now.


72f072  No.12132723

>>12132716

No, I mean why did halfchan crash? Fuckup or on purpose?


b2bc66  No.12132731

>>12132702

Not knowing /pol is a reference to halfchan while posting in /pol/. others have been posting that for year and now its a issue or you are that new never picking up on it?


b2bc66  No.12132734

>>12132723

No idea.


c727b0  No.12132735

>>12132731

No, seriously, what in the name of fuck are you actually talking about? Can anyone else in this thread corroborate what this lunatic is saying?


b2bc66  No.12132742

>>12132735

You are literally that dense. Sad.


f08f55  No.12132746

>>12132735

/pol = halfchan pol

/pol/ = fullchan pol

Not complex


0955cd  No.12132748

>>12132735

Apparently he's saying:

"/pol" refers specifically to halfchan's /pol/

"/pol/" refers to this /pol/


b2bc66  No.12132753

>>12132746

>>12132748

Yep, not hard to follow unless you are a NPC


c727b0  No.12132754

>>12132748

>>12132746

Yeah, it makes sense, but I lurk pretty much 24/7 and I've never seen this meme used once.


72f072  No.12132756

Can you faggots stop trying to out-shibboleth each other and get back to the thread or what?


b2bc66  No.12132759

>>12132754

We generally don't talk about halfchan


c727b0  No.12132764

>>12132759

Whatever. Much of this confusion could've been solved if you improved your nigger-tier English. Polite sage.


b2bc66  No.12132770

>>12132764

Phone posting on a potato in the toilet. Don't expect a lot of quality.


91d1b4  No.12132808

>>12132756

>shibboleth

It's fucked up I even know what this means. We really are becoming the new jews, even incorporating jewish terms


72f072  No.12132818

>>12132808

>Implying this place isn't 60% JIDF


a2eadc  No.12132833

>>12127588

According to one of the hack doctors he cited in that article, I am insane because when I think of dog I see an image of one of my favorite breeds of canine and not a floating word that says "dog" in my native language. It must suck to not be able to match words to a concept directly and parse everything in your brain like that. What a joke psychology is, as a field.


0955cd  No.12132842

>>12132833

Did he actually say you're supposed to visualize the letters "d, o, g"? Link?


f08f55  No.12132843

>>12132754

I’ve been on the old chans since 05 & here since launch. I’ve seen many people use it but never seen anyone have to explain it.


a2eadc  No.12132856

>>12132842

Jesus Christ, it's in the article OP quoted.

>And John McWhorter, noted linguist, says:

>When we utter a word, we cannot help but mentally see an image of its written version. In our heads, what we have said … is that sequence of written symbols. When we say "dog," a little picture of that word flashes through our minds, Sesame Street-style….. Imagine saying "dog" and only thinking of a canine, but not thinking of the written word. If you're reading this book, it follows that you couldn't pull this off even at gunpoint.

Dude must be mentally handicapped or some shit.


d76403  No.12132857

Yes you are a poser


655da6  No.12132867

>>12127733

If you don’t think in both pictures and language you’re a soulless creature. You should be able to make the most beautiful tapestries in your mind and think of all of the ways you’d wish to describe it. To think in your mind and to speak your thoughts to yourself aids in finalizing ideas. Visualizing it helps with subtle nuances you might not describe otherwise, if the action you’re going to commit is so subtle or very complicated.


9547fc  No.12132871

>>12131503

I used to have this, after taking ketamine once, for a few years, whenever I closed my eyes I would be involuntarily falling and spinning through large tunnels and structures. I also used to be able to hear music externally that wasn't there. I would be able to hear music I barely knew even if I couldn't consciously remember it. That all went away after I did antidepressants. Fuck me, I miss those involuntary hallucinations.


a2eadc  No.12132872

>>12132867

Hey dipshit, did you know that until a few hundred years ago most people couldn't read?


9547fc  No.12132877

File: 7e412cb2d202faa⋯.jpg (20.54 KB, 352x431, 352:431, dabrowski.jpg)

File: f03293e1ffe682e⋯.png (68.17 KB, 1424x790, 712:395, Capture.PNG)

File: efd597f95156ac1⋯.jpg (75.05 KB, 314x210, 157:105, levels.jpg)

I'll repost my post from the other thread, which was invaded by shills.

Time for a non-bullshit psychology lesson. This is a theory created by one of the greatest minds ever to walk this earth of whom you'll probably never have even heard: the polish psychiatrist Kazimierz Dabrowski.

You guys really need to learn about Dabrowski's theory of positive disintegration to understand the phenomenon you call NPCs. The guys you call NPCs are stuck in level 1 (Unilevel integration) of their spiritual development. When you are stuck in this level, you are primarily influenced by your impulses (wanting to fuck, drink, eat and social approval) and by social norms. Some individuals, who are by virtue of their genes more sensitive to their environment, realize that reality as it is told them by their parents, their schooling and the media is not what it ought to be. They subconsciously know there is something wrong with their current behavior, but they do not know what it is. This misalignment between what their soul craves and what they currently are manifests as neurotic behaviour, such as anxiety, psychosis or depression. Thus, they arrive at level 2 (Unilevel disintegration): They are actually reaching a critical stage of development, which manifests as maladjustment to current society.

Dabrowski states in his theory that level 2 is a point where 3 choices can be made: they can fall back to level 1, to NPC mode. Then they will be happily adjusted to a shit society again. Conventional antidepressants facilitate this process of falling back from level 2 to level 1. You will be happy again, but happy like a blind person in the matrix. You are integrated into the jew system. The second choice is like falling off the cliff: either suicide, or permanent psychosis. This happens when you cannot reconcile your inner world with the outer world. The third choice is moving on to level 3, multilevel disintegration.

At level 3 (spontaneous multilevel disintigration), you start realizing there are alternative ways for you to behave in this terrible society. You start behaving according in the way your soul demands, as opposed to what your base instincts demand or what society demands. However, as you grow, you are still wavering between your baser instincts, social pressure, and the demands of your soul. That is why it is called spontaneous multilevel disintigration, whereas for the previous levels are unilevel disintigration because when stuck at these levels (like an NPC) you are literally unaware that higher levels of existence even exist.

Nearing the end of your personal metamorphosis, you reach level 4. Now you are an empathic, caring morally strong person. You've risen above the NPCs. You have an inner drive to fight injustice and better the world around you. You are no longer blind to the world around you, and you behave according to strong morals and an inner drive, both of which are completely absent in those stuck in level 1 (NPCs).

Level 5, which basically means moral invincibility, the upmost top of development, can according to dabrowski only be reached by a very select number of individuals. Personally, I believe Adolf Hitler to have been one of those individuals.

Armed with Dabrowski's theory of positive desintigration, the world makes a lot more sense: We now understand why NPCs exist, we can understand where depression comes from, and we can understand how antidepressants work to fuck you right back to level 1 with the rest of the zombies. Conversely, psychedelics such as magic mushrooms and LSD have the opposite effect of conventional antidepressants: They will facilitate development to a higher level by letting your conscious self come into contact with your unconscious self and laying your soul bare. Now you understand the critical difference between the antidepressant effects of SSRIs and other conventional antidepressants: They numb the senses of sensitive souls who realize they live in a fake reality, so they can happily adjust and continue living in that fake reality, while psychedelics sharpen the senses and allow you to fully comprehend reality as it really is.

Dabrowski's theory of positive desintigration goes a lot deeper than what I just explained, but this is the gist of it. For me, this is the defining theory of psychology and the best explanation for why mankind is the way it is. The link below has some more information, but is by no means the best or only source. I recommend reading the scientific papers, preferably the ones written by Dabrowski himself.

https://positivedisintegration.com/levelIandII.htm


bcbb05  No.12132880

>>12132833

It's probably that he was taught to read using the whole word method while you and I were taught to read phonetically


f1c97b  No.12132937

Thought comes before sound. Are u that fucking stupid?


a2eadc  No.12132982

>>12132880

If it's something as simple as that, I would assume a medical field staffed with highly educated people to figure that out instead of saying "I think this way, you probably do too! But no one really knows! Look guys, I'm a scientist!"


67b64c  No.12132998

>>12131417

"Phantoms"


a18515  No.12133002

File: 32a975eca3bab23⋯.webm (3.2 MB, 426x240, 71:40, 1473138920521.webm)

>>12131417

>>12131437

>>12131469

>>12131483

>>12131538

Call them zombies.


c727b0  No.12133164

File: 9ea2bf5a7f6fbef⋯.png (170.94 KB, 1790x707, 1790:707, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12132877

10/10. Fascinating stuff.


a2e5fb  No.12133166

File: d59bd2a6127420d⋯.jpg (30.73 KB, 220x331, 220:331, EXISTENZ.jpg)

>>12132189

No toleration of silence is a good one, but in this day and age jewphones and the internet are have ruined many people. I have friends who are definitely non-NPC that fiddle with their phones if a situation feels slightly awkward because they have social anxiety.

Ever see the movie Existenz? it's bretty gud btw It's basically sort of like the Matrix except people willingly go inside virtual reality to play games and "live out" other experiences. There is a scene in the movie where one character tells the other how to differentiate NPCs from real players. She says NPCs will stare blankly in space, talk in loops, and not respond to events outside of their programming.

Look through this thread and the previous ones and you'll see patterns that emerge. Basically look for people who have the same conversation with you over and over, who cannot respond well to novel intellectual stimuli, and give the classic 'fluoride stare.' There is probably no simple test other than long term exposure to a person.


0594c9  No.12133200

File: 5a094a3598d18fa⋯.jpeg (138.9 KB, 878x1149, 878:1149, Lenin.jpeg)

>>12132877

>"trust my false science, friendo"

>says a man totally not looking like Lenin


8fc62b  No.12133245

File: 3229d6ea52bdfa5⋯.png (99.17 KB, 797x1036, 797:1036, All lives are sacred, espe….png)

>>12133002

>privacy of their victims

Was it mistranslated from "justice for victims"?

Note the implications of articles 1 & 2.


9b6c83  No.12133283

>>12130334

>>12130392

He should give her an egg bowl as a gift, bitches love egg bowls.


e7a518  No.12133364

I've always thought that thinking in language - that is, in imaginary conversations with oneself - is somehow retarded, shameful and crippling. Just compare /pol/ memes with /leftypol/ memes and you get the picture of effective vs weakling shapes of thought.


f909a3  No.12133389

How does this meme go from

>some participants in our supers small study didn't report doing self-talk at the times we randomly buzzed their beepers

to

>MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN INNER VOICE

in a few days? I swear to god people's reading comprehension is borderline retarded.


d43d5d  No.12133462

>>12133389

t. mad NPC


a2eadc  No.12133472

>>12133364

Having an internal conversation is an OK way to reason out an idea to its conclusion before rashly committing to it. It's always better to talk to someone else though, assuming they have knowledge in whatever you're doing.


939537  No.12133482

>>12133200

Almost all psychology involved with the mind is unquantifiable, thus BS, philosophy is a better category but to dismiss it by saying he looks like lenin is either low effort b8 or you're fucking retarded


cb7a72  No.12133577

>>12132877

good job


eb34d3  No.12133614

>>12131013

>Central Europeans have an average brain lobe for melody (I forget it's name) that is double the volume of the world average. It makes good sense that so many composers of high quality originated in and about there.

I've always found that curious. I mean the British for example have achieved so much yet there are practically no well known British classical composers, literally the only one I know is Gustav Holst, who I had no idea was British at first and was of Swedish, Latvian and German descent anyway.

>>12131016

lol stop pushing that shit already, niggers are dumb alright but claiming that gorillas are smarter only makes you look dumb. All the tests done with subjects like Koko the Gorilla have been proven to be exaggerated - they're sure more intelligent than the average animal, but their speech has no syntax and they very rarely communicated spontaneously, only really answered questions - basically glorified circus training.


67b64c  No.12133620

>>12133614

>they're sure more intelligent than the average animal, but their speech has no syntax and they very rarely communicated spontaneously, only really answered questions

Literally niggers


eb34d3  No.12133640

>>12133620

Don't insult gorillas. They're gentle and will not violently attack you unless you really provoke them.


fd40b2  No.12133677

Highly relevant article: https://paulcooijmans.com/intelligence/iq_ranges.html.

50-69 — Mildly retarded

Educable, can learn to care for oneself, employable in routinized jobs but require supervision. Might live alone but do best in supervised settings. Immature but with adequate social adjustment, usually no obvious physical anomalies.

Moderate and mild retardation, contrary to the more severe forms, are typically not caused by brain damage but part of the normal variance of intelligence, and therefore largely genetic and inherited. This is important with regard to the question whether or not retarded persons should have children; for especially the moderate and mild forms of retardation, with which it is physically possible to have children, are the most likely to be inherited.

70-79 — Borderline retarded

Limited trainability. Have difficulty with everyday demands like using a phone book, reading bus or train schedules, banking, filling out forms, using appliances like a video recorder, microwave oven, or computer, et cetera, and therefore require assistance from relatives or social workers in the management of their affairs. Can be employed in simple tasks but require supervision.

80-89 — Below average

Above the threshold for normal independent functioning. Can perform explicit routinized hands-on tasks without supervision as long as there are no moments of choice and it is always clear what has to be done. Assembler, food service.

90-99 — Average

Able to learn a trade in a hands-on manner and perform tasks involving decisions. Craftsman, sales, police officer, clerk. Studies involving some theory are possible from this range upward.

100-109 — Average

Able to learn from written materials. Employable in senior positions.

110-119 — Above average

Able to learn in "college" format. Bachelor degrees. Manager, teacher, accountant. Just capable of taking high-range I.Q. tests.

120-129 — Above average

Capable of gathering and inferring own information. Master degrees. Attorney, chemist, executive. About 93 % of high-range test candidates score I.Q. 120 or higher.

130-139 — "Gifted"

May just be able to write a legible piece of text like an article or modest novel. Minor literary figures. Ph.D. in the "soft" sciences. In this range lies the mode of scores on high-range tests, and almost 80 % of high-range candidates score I.Q. 130 or higher. Regular psychology's I.Q. tests should not be trusted beyond this range as their validity breaks down here, if such scores are given at all.

140-149 — Intelligent

Capable of rational communication and scientific work. From this range on, only specific high-range tests should be considered. Important scientific discoveries and advancement are possible from the upper part of this range on.


000000  No.12133708

https://archive.is/FL7qV


e0f4a4  No.12133741

>>12131417

"Goyim."


c727b0  No.12133748

>>12133677

>(((accountant)))

>(((attorney)))

>(((executive)))

>jobs that require high IQs, and not just a shotload of networking


a0db47  No.12133753

>>12127607

<inner voice is limiting, concepts are best efficient without verbal constraints

But if you can't verbalize a concept do you truly know it? Even though it may seem real and significant to you, if you stumble over explaining it, is it really that formed and concrete?


ed2deb  No.12133763

>>12132872

You know you can thing in language without reading it right?


000000  No.12133795

If you can't do both, or more, then you are the NPC class.

But if you try to do both, simply because you want to fit in and be accepted as "better than NPC" then you're still NPC.

You either comprehend the reality of this situation as the ubermensch, or you do not.


a0db47  No.12133888

File: 4de00f5f2afafb3⋯.jpeg (71.93 KB, 497x600, 497:600, trippydude.jpeg)

>>12131503

>My comprehension was of other civilizations throughout the universe, some more technologically advanced, some less than us, but all humanoid. In retrospect, this makes me think of the Astral Library theory.

holy shit yes!

I have a bullshit new-age theory about this. Ever notice the patterns of the universe are hierarchical? Neuron looks like the universe, veins of a leaf look like the branches of a tree? Well we are formed the same way. Small makes up the big with similar patterns arising at each level. In addition, other species in our universe at our level of evolution likely have opposing thumbs and language because that fits with what is most likely with our physics. This is similar to how our internal stimuli are structured as well. So when you close your eyes you will see phosphenes and dancing patterns from neural static and our brains desire to pick out patterns. These patterns are random, but will inevitably form shapes that could be a person or the letter A. Now let's say you didn't know what the letter A was because you live on Gliese 1-b. You, as an alien, close your eyes, and with static and enough time, the whole alphabet in random order could come and go, and you wouldn't know it. Thus, the fact we all arise from this universe, and with time and pattern building, we will be exposed to symbols and patterns that could essentially represent every humanoid, creature, or alphabet there is. It is a cosmic background consciousness by our origin from this universe.


123a45  No.12133969

>>12132383

This is a perfect description, it is definitely like a constant out of body experience. I know "I am" so to speak, but I often have difficulty believing that what I see is the truth, that there's a possibility to step back even further such as a 4th wall. It's frightening to think that there is more behind me, or what I perceive to be me. Like a character figuring out there is another reality besides the games where he resides, and that through his eyes is a portal that others use to see into his world, and his actions are being controlled by trans-dimensional beings. Sadly there isn't any way to know unless some autist breaks through whatever protocol there is and gives us the key to this next dimension.


1db2fa  No.12134033

>>12132877

Good post. Good digits. It all checks out.


000000  No.12134161

Julian Jaynes' argued that most people were NPCs until recent times, and their sole form of consciousness was hearing the voice of "gods" which was what they mistook their internal monologue for. I don't think he's entirely correct, as I'm sure there were conscious individuals throughout these times, but it seems pretty valid for NPCs.

http://s-f-walker.org.uk/pubsebooks/pdfs/Julian_Jaynes_The_Origin_of_Consciousness.pdf


541401  No.12134175

>>12133888

>Now let's say you didn't know what the letter A was because you live on Gliese 1-b.

What's wrong with Gliese 586b? Those grays are cool, man. They piss mutagen that makes you strong and birth from hearts to start life new.


000000  No.12134184

>>12133614

>The "greatness" of the British Empire

That's because the British oligarchy has been intellectually and morally degenerate for centuries. Look at what they did to the American colonies; the colonists had built automated iron mills using water wheels that produced many times more iron than anything in Britain, and the oligarchs shut it down because they wanted Americans to be mercantilist slaves, not producers of manufactured goods.

The same attitude continues today, with the royal family's support of genocide masquerading as "environmentalism," globalism destroying all of the good jobs and trying to turn all production of goods over to the slaves in the third world instead of the advanced factories built in the west.


ea6be6  No.12134233

File: 780d698c29ad3f0⋯.jpg (89.04 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, green_party_basedAF.jpg)

>>12134175

The greens of Gilese 1-b are way more fun to party with.


18b6d5  No.12134298

>>12127588

heil.

One trick to silencing that ego driven drivel in your mind is to speak over it. speak over it with music or song or math, or glossolalia.

Inner voices are all very well and good, but they are really a sub circuit of mind, that exists in the linguistic realm, and that act to serve as a self/other defensive boundary (the ego).

Most people lose to their egos and become tedious fucks.

Instead, train it. Silence it.


18b6d5  No.12134303

>>12134161

>hearing the voice of "gods" which was what they mistook

you have to shut up your ego, then you CAN hear the gods, and every other fucker in the vicinity. Consciousness arises from quantum processing, and is unbounded by time or space. i


0bc524  No.12134450

This isn't a bug man. This is a CIA agent:

>>12130976


d12948  No.12134544

File: fd21997ed1bfb9b⋯.jpg (147.73 KB, 1424x1000, 178:125, efd597f95156ac1ee7ccbc7806….jpg)

>>12132877

I'm fixing your post so I can screencap because you included your fucking hippie Boomer, Joe Rogan, new age shit about psychedelics being ""true reality of the soul, something Dabroski never talked about.

>>12133164 >>12133200 >>12133577 >>12134033

Time for a non-bullshit psychology lesson. This is a theory created by one of the greatest minds ever to walk this earth of whom you'll probably never have even heard: the polish psychiatrist Kazimierz Dabrowski.

You guys really need to learn about Dabrowski's theory of positive disintegration to understand the phenomenon you call NPCs. The guys you call NPCs are stuck in level 1 (Unilevel integration) of their spiritual development. When you are stuck in this level, you are primarily influenced by your impulses (wanting to fuck, drink, eat and social approval) and by social norms. Some individuals, who are by virtue of their genes more sensitive to their environment, realize that reality as it is told them by their parents, their schooling and the media is not what it ought to be. They subconsciously know there is something wrong with their current behavior, but they do not know what it is. This misalignment between what their soul craves and what they currently are manifests as neurotic behaviour, such as anxiety, psychosis or depression. Thus, they arrive at level 2 (Unilevel disintegration): They are actually reaching a critical stage of development, which manifests as maladjustment to current society.

Dabrowski states in his theory that level 2 is a point where 3 choices can be made: they can fall back to level 1, to NPC mode. Then they will be happily adjusted to a shit society again. Conventional antidepressants facilitate this process of falling back from level 2 to level 1. You will be happy again, but happy like a blind person in the matrix. You are integrated into the jew system. The second choice is like falling off the cliff: either suicide, or permanent psychosis. This happens when you cannot reconcile your inner world with the outer world. The third choice is moving on to level 3, multilevel disintegration.

At level 3 (spontaneous multilevel disintigration), you start realizing there are alternative ways for you to behave in this terrible society. You start behaving according in the way your soul demands, as opposed to what your base instincts demand or what society demands. However, as you grow, you are still wavering between your baser instincts, social pressure, and the demands of your soul. That is why it is called spontaneous multilevel disintigration, whereas for the previous levels are unilevel disintigration because when stuck at these levels (like an NPC) you are literally unaware that higher levels of existence even exist.

Nearing the end of your personal metamorphosis, you reach level 4. Now you are an empathic, caring morally strong person. You've risen above the NPCs. You have an inner drive to fight injustice and better the world around you. You are no longer blind to the world around you, and you behave according to strong morals and an inner drive, both of which are completely absent in those stuck in level 1 (NPCs).

Level 5, which basically means moral invincibility, the upmost top of development, can according to dabrowski only be reached by a very select number of individuals. Personally, I believe Adolf Hitler to have been one of those individuals.

Armed with Dabrowski's theory of positive desintigration, the world makes a lot more sense: We now understand why NPCs exist, we can understand where depression comes from, and we can understand how antidepressants work to fuck you right back to level 1 with the rest of the zombies.

Now you understand the critical effects of conventional antidepressants: They numb the senses of sensitive inner-mind who realize they live in a modern human construct of reality, so they can happily adjust and continue living in that fake reality.

Dabrowski's theory of positive disintegration goes a lot deeper than what I just explained, but this is the gist of it. For me, this is the defining theory of psychology and the best explanation for why mankind is the way it is. The link below has some more information, but is by no means the best or only source. I recommend reading the scientific papers, preferably the ones written by Dabrowski himself.

https://positivedisintegration.com/levelIandII.htm


0bc524  No.12134565

screed.


1db2fa  No.12134623

>>12133969

I did it. I can share what I did if anyone is interested. You the viewer aren't the reciever. Youre also not the broadcaster. You are the carrier wave itself. By tuning the reciever (body) you slide up or down the wave and decode different loci. None of us are locked into the body. The body is only able to reference itself. So all memories are body referenced. Body the wave freely traverses the body all the way back to source. The fact the body can only reference ce the body creates illusion of separation and time. It's not trick of memory. Properly tuned body can recieve from outside body which slowly undermines the illusion. I chose to remain anchored to body because the desire to leave is only motivated by the body itself. Once you are liberated there is no reason to leave. The only part that fears limits is the very part that is limited by definition. So escape is pointless. Asking if you create reality or reality creates you is a false dichotomy.

I wish I could say it's all candy and rainbows in the realm above ours but I can only report that predation continues for quite some time. Be strong for by living you do yourself a great service.


0bc524  No.12134658

>>12134623

Then who's the particle?


1db2fa  No.12134672

>>12134623

The game being played within our immediate super context is that a mass unity conciousness "sows" itself into bodies which, through the process of living within limitations, bootstrap themselves into higher order conciousness. These are then reunified with the super conciousness, enriching it. Speculativly this super conciousness is also in a process of self bootstrapping. Jesus' parables about Vine and branches, or sower and seeds is very literal in a hyper dimensional sort of way. Humanity does not comprise one super conciousness but many enmeshed to various degrees.


1db2fa  No.12134674

>>12134658

Particles are crude models. They aren't actually real. Everything is flow.


0bc524  No.12134676

>>12134674

Particles think you may be wrong. They say hello, btw.


1db2fa  No.12134689

>>12134676

Particles are real to the same degree discrete you is real.


20c8f7  No.12134707

>>12134689

Waves are real, in the sense that dreams are real.


a1ff63  No.12134715

>>12127588

I hardly ever think in words, but instead have a highly image-oriented method of thinking. I also would describe myself as intensely emotional and generally empathetic towards the plight of other people. I'm not so sure it would be wise to deem people who don't LITERALLY have an "inner-voice" as NPC's.

I do, however, have a "voice" in my head when I read. I would assume that most people who are mostly verbal/linguistic thinkers have this narrative voice in their heads all of the time. Consider reading Temple Grandin's "Experiences as an Autistic Child…" (seriously) to gain some insight into visual thinking/learning styles as compared to verbal-logical or sequential-logical thinking styles.


20c8f7  No.12134730

>>12134715

I can tell. You just suddenly started yapping about yourself. Typical bug-man activity.


0062ee  No.12134731

>>12127588

Checked

I guess I'm one of the lucky few


d34ea6  No.12134738

>>12134707

If you experienced something it really happened unconscious or not, don't you feel pain as well as pleasure in dreams?

Also this thread just keeps derailing for no reason, polite sage


20c8f7  No.12134759

>>12134738

You don't know anything about dreams.


d34ea6  No.12134804

>>12134759

What the fuck did you just say BUGMAN I'll have you know I've had over 6 million outer body experiences, and trained in the art of astral fighting.


493e0a  No.12134883

File: ef8d153b4cc64f2⋯.jpg (28.95 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 1454150814246-1.jpg)

>>12127588

I fucking knew it. I always figured most people didn't think with words, because they couldn't.

Attempting to stop the word-flow triggers my autism, maybe it's because I'm tired right now.

>>12127601

"X is Jewish because…."

Gas yourself.


493e0a  No.12134915

File: 1d61b6515b0abe3⋯.gif (1.77 MB, 303x277, 303:277, mmm good.gif)

>>12132877

Good post, but isn't consciousness/subconscious Freudian? Even if he stole the conscious/subconscious concept, I still think it's silly.


493e0a  No.12134934

File: 17895344e2e01cd⋯.jpg (648.07 KB, 1424x1676, 356:419, npcs_theory.jpg)


eb34d3  No.12134941

>>12134184

Yeah, I know that, but there's plenty of well known classical music pieces from Tsarist Russia, which was far more oppressive and backwater. There's something about the British that makes them very industrious but not well known for classical music (the modern age is a different story).


f4317a  No.12135002

>>12130099

I hear you, /pol/ can be extremely obtuse and fucktarded at times. Unwanted, intrusive thoughts barge into your head and hijack your internal monologue, often with blasphemous, gay, or otherwise degenerate trash - it's not uncommon for it to become so goddamn prevalent that it shits everything up.

If your internal monologue were a thread, intrusive thoughts are the (1)s, the TORpedos, shills, and other unwanted refuse constantly clogging it up with annoying bullshit.


fe61f0  No.12135187

>>12133888

Checked. Now that you mention it, is there a particular reason I don't see phosphenes nowhere near as frequently as I did as a child?


72f984  No.12135304

>>12132356

> It is not that we do not feel or see in our mind, it is that we use language to better understand what we are seeing and feeling;

That may be true for you and definitly is true for many people. But it is not true for all people. There are many people absolutely enslaved to a literal verbal dialogue in their head. These people get extremely salty when you point out that it's a limitation. Jews inparticular, are so entrenched in this way of they find it incomrpehensible to believe people think in any other way. For example the kike who thinks every time you think dog you see the word "dog" in your head. Some people are really like this. Yes it's absurd. >>12132833


da85a9  No.12135481

>first rule of being a loser

immediately latch on to any """"theory""" that empowers you over your fellow man

bonus points if you can tear everyone else down while putting in zero effort to achieve your new ""status"""

why am i not surprised this shit spreads like wildfire


bf7328  No.12135509

File: b4970e86646b054⋯.jpg (175.48 KB, 753x1024, 753:1024, wagecage.jpg)

are robots npc?

what about anons inside robots?

to think soon there will be robots smarter than the average braindead (person)


ced39a  No.12135554

File: 75d1edc0a07ca70⋯.jpg (51.54 KB, 553x360, 553:360, NPC.jpg)

>>12135481

The final redpill to the NPC meme is realizing we're all NPCs.

Compared to God we are all NPCs. We have no existence independent of God. Everything we have, even our irrational consciousness comes from God. There isn't a single thing we could possibly do that is not known by God in advance. God is the only independent player in this game.


322f9a  No.12135599

>>12130094

Maslow was a literal kike and that pyramid is kikery for being a "radikul individuwol".


44e64d  No.12135721

>>12129823

It seems to happen most when you're lying on your back instead of sleeping sideways or facedown. It also helps if you don't have a song stuck in your head. Also you can start off a song yourself with any old random tune, but you have to make sure you let your head take over and not interfere by adding to it. You kinda feel out what comes next instead of thinking of things to add to the song.


c75463  No.12136145

>>12127648

thought*


298e17  No.12136193

>>12135554

Look, a semitic NPC projecting his soullessness on everyone else.


9730e4  No.12136236

File: 7ff6e839978b9ca⋯.gif (1.5 MB, 500x262, 250:131, the fountain.gif)

>>12135554

>not realizing the spark of God that resides in everyone of us

>not recognizing free will for the gift it is

The price, of course, is separation from God but that can be overcome as well if you use your free will to choose to do so


4d05b9  No.12136255

>>12135554

This is such bullshit. Chalcedon was the single greatest philosophical, and theological event in history, and you've managed to flat out ignore it, and its consequences.


72f984  No.12136350

>>12136255

woke take and dubs


fcbb3b  No.12136393

File: 199dc6cd5cea36d⋯.jpg (37.45 KB, 703x376, 703:376, bellcurve.jpg)

File: b769738e35f900c⋯.gif (2.73 MB, 240x135, 16:9, amtheliquor.gif)

https://paulcooijmans.com/intelligence/iq_ranges.html

>100-109 — Average

Able to learn from written materials

120-129 — Above average

Capable of gathering and inferring own information.

130-139 — "Gifted"

May just be able to write a legible piece of text like an article or modest novel.

Over half the fucking population can't absorb information from a fucking book, much less write a cohesive statement about anything that isn't regurgitated from pop culture or social media. The pieces are starting to fall into place.

I WANT OFF MR. BONES WILD RIDE


0a5902  No.12136430

>>12135554

God has created other potential creators.

That is the point of the ladder of ascension, the end goal is theosis.

God wishes for Son's and Daughter's to join in his infinite play of creation.

You cannot be God but you can be like God.

Can you be Your Father? No.

Can you be a Father? Yes.

Is it possible for your soul to spawn an infinite lattice of created worlds? I think so!

He is the All-Father.


ced39a  No.12136543

File: ed93817a2e96159⋯.jpg (40.97 KB, 372x300, 31:25, 1517809325233.jpg)

>>12136430

Nice analogy. Thanks.


3ddc10  No.12136560

File: 7adf71e63163125⋯.png (219.54 KB, 1024x469, 1024:469, 1454203537385.png)


503f8e  No.12136568

File: 591c51526f797a6⋯.png (422.03 KB, 600x600, 1:1, Shrek killing Redditors 1.png)


93901d  No.12136603

>take DMT

>inner voice tells me I have no soul

>weird praying mantis god spits me through a tunnel

>tfw trolled by hyperspace

>tfw you’re an npc now


3ddc10  No.12136639

File: 262a1dc4ff56a5a⋯.jpg (23.45 KB, 564x640, 141:160, 262a1dc4ff56a5ace5d74aef65….jpg)

File: c51dfd79888c707⋯.jpg (21.61 KB, 560x285, 112:57, 7badec41e60feeb3c38ee57b9f….jpg)

File: 1337e860deb5799⋯.jpg (65.96 KB, 679x497, 97:71, 1485176553278.jpg)

File: 45ad54c6e0b058a⋯.jpg (12.89 KB, 237x212, 237:212, 1453923202580.jpg)

File: c193531166dbf0f⋯.jpg (16.79 KB, 275x300, 11:12, 1454127870033.JPG)


34f164  No.12136640

>>12132754

Because he just made it up.


e5bbf5  No.12136642

>>12136603

woke and redpilled


4d2931  No.12136644

>>12136560

Why didn't we think of creating our own personal Hitler tulpas?


650425  No.12136647

>>12130788

>he-He's trying to hic thought shame me.

Jesus christ did you get lost from tumblr.


4d2931  No.12136649

>>12129084

from a college course of a university we will never know


44c9d9  No.12136702

File: a25d7459c25fa09⋯.jpg (113.53 KB, 499x496, 499:496, Soul-Body.jpg)

>>12128132

It's not that we're out of souls retard, everyone is a soul they just never learn about it in an engaging sense.


d01e6d  No.12136753

File: db09296ebc4d775⋯.jpg (45.72 KB, 960x960, 1:1, birdman.jpg)

>>12129411

>work in abstract thought only

That is called acting on instinct and emotion. That's not thinking at all. You're an animal.


c727b0  No.12136769

>>12136640

That's what I figured. Fuck that NPC retard.


0732e3  No.12136779

>it's an above average intelligence convinces itself that it's special episode


81e710  No.12136798

File: 829b12794b56e55⋯.jpg (56.27 KB, 633x758, 633:758, e45.jpg)


e5bbf5  No.12136808

>>12136702

woke and redpilled


e258f5  No.12136877

>>12127588

>Study finds most people don't have an "inner voice"

>This means that the average person only thinks in speech about 25% of the time.

Are you retarded?


694e0b  No.12136880

>>12136877

>can’t read

>has no argument

>spams the thread

Hi, NPC! Kill yourself.


691a41  No.12136906

>all these drones being salty because they don't think

People like you were the ones that burned supposed witches. People like you are behind the dark age. People like you are antifas. The only reason why you are not an antifa is because we get to you first.

If you don't think, you are a subhuman. Kill yourself.


bfe9df  No.12136937

>>12127588

So what does it mean if I think in words during my everyday life, but think in pictures what I listen to music? Am I chimera or some shit?


635785  No.12137045

What about people that talk to themselves? Would they be capable of internal monologue or are they npcs? I'm assuming they are not npcs because they at least would need an understanding of 'self' in order to talk to himself, however, i would like to hear other people's opinion.


34b71b  No.12137114

>>12134544

so i guess a break from NPC-dom (the first two levels) is symptomatic of people with an iq of over 110-ish?


b686d9  No.12137128

>>12127648

I only speak in language when I'm reading a book or to reflect on things.


34b71b  No.12137133

>>12137128

thinking aloud while reading slows you down quite a bit


bfe9df  No.12137156

>>12136937

It means you have a split personality disorder.


c727b0  No.12137273

>>12137156

And the NPC responds to himself, because he had a mild panic attack when his post when unresponded to for 90 minutes. We have IDs here, you stupid pile of shit.


fb4149  No.12137296

>>12137273

He has a split personality disorder, not a panic attack.


bfe9df  No.12137321

File: a1dfb4839bdb021⋯.png (17.99 KB, 425x404, 425:404, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12137273

pic 4 u

>>12137296

Yeah that guy's fucked in the head.


18b6d5  No.12137325


0daed4  No.12137403

File: b2956c97021f0de⋯.jpg (49.3 KB, 482x542, 241:271, 1455669004496.jpg)

>>12136568

>try and explain the concept of intrusive thoughts to brainlet

>HURR PLEBBIT


19c48b  No.12137436

>>12132400

This is why I believe in the concept of 'Power words' and the interpretation of magic as secret knowledge of social understanding.

Racism, Sexism etc had strong 'magical' powers to silence enemies but have since dwindled due to overuse (drained of their reservoir of power) and why "meme magic" is a thing with words like Cuck and Soyboy seemingly coming through nothingness, appearing, serving their purpose then disappearing (conjuring spells).

I think 8chan are conjurers in a traditional sense and our enemies fucking hate that we're starting to get it. I'd recommend having a more devoted meme creation threads to desensitize the words Hitler for example I've taken to proclaiming myself Jewish and whining every second of every day if things don't go my way with people who I'll meet briefly or have no intention to meet again (Street petitioners, etc) and it's done wonders.


9864a7  No.12137455

>>12128251

>>12128249

>>12128207

The brahmins debated this back and forth 2700 years ago.


b76715  No.12137468

>>12137403

>replying to kikes derail shit.


c89d3b  No.12137484

Would you stop with this already. Its an op to make it look like you dehumanize your fellow man. Someone will then do a mass shooting screaming about the people he killed being only NPCs and they will get a lot more resources to monitor you else shut the site down.


8a5ecf  No.12137501

File: 0932115ad65b347⋯.jpg (4.44 KB, 239x249, 239:249, 1536664459974s.jpg)

This shit is going viral fast.

>pic related


4d05b9  No.12137513

>>12136906

Ironically, you don't actually understand what a witch is, or why they were burned, nor do you understand the Dark Ages. Not all witch burnings were the insanity of Salem, and the "Dark" Ages were only dark for the Jews.


fd40b2  No.12137531

>>12136393

I already posted this, faggot. Here: >>12133677

I doubt anyone here has an IQ below a hundred, desu. 95% of the guys here can probably learn, to a reasonable extent, from written material.


8c4290  No.12137533

>>12137436

Memetics also requires a intuitive understanding of how sensory/verbal concepts bridge together naturally, not just in our own minds, but in the minds of others. It's also helps to understand which associations resides in pretty much all people. Typical examples of them are how certain visual/audio cues can excite emotional ones, like how vibrant colors are positive, dull colors are negative. Harmonious tones are calm, disjointed tones are distressing. Specific color/tone sequences can convey a symphony of states in sync with verbal information.

It also requires understanding what constitutes a thought beyond what it appears to convey literally. To put it simply, thinking about anything invokes a shit load of relational abstracts (most unnoticeable as you filter them out). Things like how a concept relate to two or more systems (like noticing a wheel turning and clock face both involve rotation in their function) and how red appears more when you read a certain word (like how the words "Danger" and "Warning" involve the color red usually. Red in turn is used because it appeals to instincts associating red to thinking about blood).


67b64c  No.12137556

>>12137520

>torfag finds hiedenwut.onion


694e0b  No.12137557

>>12137520

Reported for ban evasion.


19c48b  No.12137558

>>12137533

It's an interesting field, I can't say I'm an expert at all and your insight shows you know far more than I do about it so I had a few questions.

What's your take on the concept of 'vibrations', I've been toying around with low-freq noises to simulate fear and have been finding some decent results (Hell I even got an HD grading from my research), so I'm wondering if you feel as well that there may be a correlation between frequencies used in say, film and music that are delivering messages?

I was considering delving deeper into it, I really want to find a frequency to simulate anger but the most I can get is 'this is annoying' and they turn it off. Repetitive low level 'beats' seem to work as long as they are slightly off-sync…


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694e0b  No.12137566

>>12137560

Reported for ban evasion.


8c4290  No.12137604

>>12137558

From personal experience low frequency vibrations do cause agitation and aggression, and I notice this especially with rap music with loud bass. Not in an annoyed because "it's nigger shit" I'm hearing sense, but like it triggers a primal instinct like a "fight or flight" response.

So I wouldn't say vibrations would deliver messages exactly, but they could excite certain neural activity triggering dormant instincts. One personal theory why it causes agitation for me, is that low frequency noise is usually associated to thunderstorms and earthquakes. That means when you subject yourself to it, it causes your primal senses to wake up and perhaps feel there is danger present. In people who are not as attuned to their senses, this could instead cause a sense of exhilaration as that rush is delivered, but not the comprehension.

Though this is purely anecdotal so I'm not sure if anyone else might be familiar with what I'm saying.


67b64c  No.12137656

>>12137604

Makes sense to me


b2bc66  No.12137720

File: 52c74ff29273005⋯.png (323.87 KB, 800x330, 80:33, NPC tester.png)

>>12137484

>Would you stop with this already. Its an op to make it look like you dehumanize your fellow man. Someone will then do a mass shooting screaming about the people he killed being only NPCs and they will get a lot more resources to monitor you else shut the site down.

Keep seeing this pop up all over the place I wonder who it could be


a899bd  No.12137750

I gotta admit.. I am extremely triggered by all the fucking newfaggots thinking that npc theory is new.


7112aa  No.12137772

>>12137604

I have anecdotal expireince with that too. I think it has to do more with the melody of the low frequencies. Whenever I would be walking to a concert, I would wonder why the bassline was akin to the bass during a dreadful part in a movie. It might be for that reason, since I've only seen it in rap and EDM, not indie stuff.


c5bc25  No.12137801

>>12136255

Not much of a christcuck but this.

According to Christian theology human souls are independent from God and are given freedom of will to go in Hell if they want.


c5bc25  No.12137810

>>12137604

Probably an instinct deep rooted in us since the time we were diminutive treeshrews among fuckyuge dinosaurs.


a899bd  No.12137818

>>12137604

Ive taken note of this as well. Its less of a fuck thats nigger music thing and more of an extreme, primal discomfort. A car blasting traditional hindu, spic or sand nigger music doesnt cause the same reaction. Your breakdown seems plausible but I would put forth that it actually does deliver a message but not a message that we would quite call a message but rather, a message of intent… With intent being the root of words and intent being sort of the same as 'primitive senses'.


a899bd  No.12137826

>>12137720

There is an obvious shill op going on. But, the shill op seems to revolve around the notion that "this is an entirely new theory" meanwhile /pol/ was discussing it well before 2016. Further, they seem to be trying to conflate npc theory with solipsism.


fb4149  No.12137840

>>12137604

>>12137826

Like gorillas beating their chests… or marching drums. Marking the territory with thump-thump.


fb4149  No.12137849


b43bad  No.12137883

>>12137604

I think there is something to that argument but I'd like to point out most speaker systems, even arena level venues don't replicate sounds lower than around 20 Hz. This is for 2 main reasons, one your mix will sound muddy with too much sub bass, and two you have the potential of deafening your audience/staff. Even if the speakers are capable of replicating lower register information, the engineer will usually put a high pass filter on the system that cuts out everything below 20 Hz anyway. The paranoia inducing sub bass of a lion's roar or an earthquake are lower than 10 Hz. It's been established that really low frequencies around 8 Hz have the power to induce anxiety and even hallucinations.


9ae57b  No.12137944

>>12137513

The Salem Witch Trials are fake news.


c5bc25  No.12137991

>>12137513

Underrated post. Though I doubt the Salem Witches' trial is anywhere as schizophrenic and without merit as (((mainstream narrative))) tends to present them as.


d812f3  No.12138082

>>12129084

No idea, but there was a group back in 2011 that was doing something similar for Wizards of the Coast on half/tg/. Their whole gig was to shit on people who spoke in "exclusionary" or "elitist" ways, then link other sites to them to show that games were for everyone. Apparently, they had done studies on how to cross-pollinate and eliminate undesirable elements on imageboard platforms without the help of the administration.


b23974  No.12138686

Too retarded to read the thread, was it ever settled on how to regain someones inner voice?


a47c9f  No.12139609

File: 83c6695dd840b93⋯.png (7.84 KB, 560x407, 560:407, happymerchant2.png)

>>12127588

>30 students

>no mention of racial make up

what a vast and truly immense control group surely it is scientifically sound to extrapolate this upon the entirety of the world.

We can be sure that these antifa surely have no inner voice and are pure zombies

>proper initiation of duality to control population.

Do you feel me fellow goyim?


ca827f  No.12139827

>>12127588

Today that inner voice is the Internet. Now you know what that voice is in stupid humans who still have it.

The problem here: The www has no conscience, no remorse, no corrective element. Really sad.


c14de7  No.12139828

>>12138082

As far as half/tg/ goes one of the halfchan global moderators, a real-life nigger, had taken an active interest in shittin on /tg/ and enforcing leftism.


0942f0  No.12140423

>>12139828

cuckchan was bad enough when moot turned on everyone, and then worse when he handed the keys over to a literal scam artist and blackmailer.. but how the fuck can it keep getting worse? It's unthinkable that anyone would allow those things to happen, but they did, and then worse things than that happened.


b10126  No.12140613

>>12127588

>>12128065

I don't know what my IQ is (have never been administered a certified exam) but I've obtained perfect or near-perfect scores on standardized exams and have finished two Ivy league degrees, so I would imagine its fairly high.

There is a time and place for thoughts to be processed verbally and spatially. If you are seeking to memorize something quickly, the use of mnemonic devices via an inner voice can be extremely helpful. Sometimes in skilled memorization, spatial reasoning is also applied to further enhance the relationship of the word, numbers or concepts you are seeking to memorize. For example, I can memorize a 9-digit telephone number or 12-digit credit card number within about 5 seconds by not only saying the numbers to myself but also remembering the spatial relationship between the number 3 and 7 for instance.

With regard to exploring NEW concepts, inner spatial reasoning tends to be extremely helpful. As a geophysicist, I liked to imagine the universe as one big blender or centrifuge when I was learning about the formation of the universe because I found that that model helped explain most universal phenomena on a macro cosmic level. Spatial reasoning can also be far more abstract, such as mentally assigning shapes to certain concepts that have absolutely nothing to do with geometry. I personally like to assign colors and flavors to certain concepts.

I would bet a large amount of money that most intelligent people (aside from savant autists) use both inner verbal and spatial reasoning throughout their daily lives because without one or the other, you hinder your ability to grasp certain ideas.


b10126  No.12140630

>>12139609

Antifa actually have a very profound, powerful and authoritative inner voice, but psychiatrists would classify this "voice" as paranoid schizophrenia.

You pretty much have to be mentally ill to believe in communism and anarchism as viable systems of government.


e40d7d  No.12140631

File: e217f1ad66cf288⋯.png (40.67 KB, 490x586, 245:293, 1536704339300.png)

>>12138686

>was it ever settled on how to regain someones inner voice?

Yeah, talk with your inner-voice or have inner-dialogs.

>>12140613

>I would bet a large amount of money that most intelligent people (aside from savant autists) use both inner verbal and spatial reasoning throughout their daily lives because without one or the other, you hinder your ability to grasp certain ideas.

That's the point, retard. Some only use spatial-visual.


e67d0a  No.12140776

File: e9e94df7094da6c⋯.png (39.13 KB, 580x580, 1:1, 75b46b7f1a07bcfdb40303b0b8….png)

I don't know if I should be terrified by the fact the majority don't even think, or laugh that so many people are flooding this thread to defend being a mindless NPC.


e67d0a  No.12140787

File: 92394880141bf0e⋯.mp4 (894.12 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Jewish_Faggot_Antifa.mp4)

>>12140630

Antifa's "inner voice" consists of whatever their groupthink is, which is to say, it's NOT thier OWN internal monologue, but what they are told to believe.


c727b0  No.12140882

>>12140613

You're using a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. Break free of your academic shackles, and reform that monstrosity into two sentences. You can do it.


bcc370  No.12140963

We all know (or at least see) dumb motherfuckers in a trance of some sort. Plenty of assholes walking around on autopilot. You can see what most of them are for. There's a purpose for their existence. Like a dumb bitch whose role is to suck dicks. Maybe so the gimps she's blowing don't reproduce? I don't know, but you know that chick whose just a cumbucket. Tyrone is meant to run after a ball, Jose to clean floors and so on and that's it for these fuckers. So people who're denying this, should at least get on side with what I've laid out. I'm not into the whole, simulated reality thing either, but there does seem to be a purpose for many people. A very limited one. It, 'just fits' for them and you always knew they'd turn out that way. A clear destiny for them which was never to amount to much, but definitely serve a purpose of sorts.

>>12132274

I don't think refusing to think about your problems is a real solution.

>>12133677

You forgot;

150++ — Juden Peterstein :D


a47c9f  No.12141085

>>12140787

The clip you posted was in itself a valid counterargument to my own.

>>12140630

I'll try a less satirical approach. 30 students with no detailed information about race and biological gender is neither proper size or detailed enough data from which to extrapolate giant theories.

There are left wing people reading this data and projecting the npc meme onto us as a means to further validate their own opinion. It only further divides. I would imagine both groups have a reasonable percentage of extroverts. An "npc" is just a complete extrovert, they do not dominantly think with inner dialogue but with outer dialogue. Two ways to the same fucking place, undo pride is a fucking weakness and this is a way for the trickster to manipulate the duality, divide and conquer.


8c4290  No.12141148

>>12141085

>An "npc" is just a complete extrovert, they do not dominantly think with inner dialogue but with outer dialogue.

In that case if a externalized feedback monologue exists like self-talk introspection, the potential for developing and exercising inner monologue would exist as well in extroverts.

The process would be as simple as imagining there are actually two selves in any act of self-talking: The one who asks, the other who answers. Over time the mind would internalize the concept in the same way as doing math in your head after practicing enough on paper as a child.


123a45  No.12141176

>>12141085

>30 students with no detailed information about race and biological gender is neither proper size or detailed enough data from which to extrapolate giant theories.

This is true, psychology is a pseudo-science that doesn't prove anything beyond anecdotes and subjective information. That still doesn't mean we can't find truths from what little research has been done, by combining it with other theories and empirical evidence.

>There are left wing people reading this data and projecting the npc meme onto us as a means to further validate their own opinion.

You can't stop an untrained and feral dog from thinking it's the master. Just because a nigger reads about the future of interplanetary civilizations, doesn't mean they're a part of it even if they think Wakanda is their homeland. Just like an NPC can't be reasoned into thinking they don't act upon anything other than group think and programming when they read these reports. Only those who are "Players" can have the final say, and you obviously aren't one if you get your fee fees hurt over being called an NPC.


b10126  No.12141199

>>12140882

I used the proper amount of words to convey the nuance I intended. I can speak in condensed absolutist grunts to suit the general level of discourse on this board if you prefer.

>>12140787

You'd be surprised by Antifa then. I lurk on their forums to understand them better. They actually have a pretty good degree of independent thought, much more than the average leftist or 'NPC'.

The only issue is that their independent thought is influenced by profound mental illness including many personality disorders and deep feelings of personal inadequacy. If they were neurotypical and understood history more thoroughly, many of them would probably be white nationalists.

>>12141085

I understand that the paper is bullshit. I'm not commenting on the merits of the paper, of which there are very little. I'm just sharing my own thoughts on the topic.


8c4290  No.12141224

>>12141199

Is the degree of independent thought strongly correlated to their social status within Antifa? Because I can take a guess and assume it would be.


284576  No.12141272

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12137604

We could use this.

/pol/'s Noise Marine division perhaps?


c727b0  No.12141293

>>12141199

>I used the proper amount of words to convey the nuance I intended. I can speak in condensed absolutist grunts to suit the general level of discourse on this board if you prefer.

Fuck you, idiot. If you have any new information (unlikely, you're a kike), you'd just post it. So… just post it.


41076b  No.12141317

File: efaf24c21bd193b⋯.jpg (126.06 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, efaf24c21bd193bb7014866f2d….jpg)

File: 6baf20b99cd9692⋯.png (26.2 KB, 752x453, 752:453, Average Nigger.png)

>>12127588

HH Checkem

>This means that the average person only thinks in speech about 25% of the time.

The Average Person is also a nigger. (graph related)

But actually, greentext does not mean that at all. You and this stupid faggot

>>12127608

have it all wrong.

If 65% of the sample is white… and 25% of the sample has inner monolouge… it is more likely that something like 100% of Whites have inner monolouge 75% of Asians have inner monolouge, 50% pf hispanics have inner monolouge white blood while 0 niggers have inner monolouge.

You fucking idiots really need to lurk for 2 years. Gettin real tired of your shit Tyrone.


b767b7  No.12141370

File: 925180014fdbb40⋯.png (37.34 KB, 2136x2136, 1:1, 1rpaox02ytf11_optimized.png)

>>12127601

I do both.

Often thoughts or collections of thoughts appear as semi-visualized abstractions or shapes

Lot of inner verbalization too, tho


f392d8  No.12141391

>>12128461

>non-aural music

Yes. Usually happened upon falling asleep, but found I could invoke that brain mode by physically and mentally relaxing and keeping self-awareness alive enough not to slip into unconsciousness. Similar to lucid dreaming. The symphonies were aurally rich and conducted primarily, but not exclusively, through feeling. It would have been wonderful to record the music I heard in my mind's ear so others could experience it. Recreating the abundance of complex movements in the physical world would have been futile. The closest I came translating from the mind was a few bars which divorced from context, and that was only after applying music theory and understanding orchestral compositions learned from years of training to extract it.


5b8b12  No.12141415

File: 12dc8b67c6ea62e⋯.jpg (2.6 MB, 2560x1440, 16:9, 001.jpg)

ITT : People who want to justify their schizophrenia

LITERALLY by saying its not that bad cause 25% have it

unbelievable


547c94  No.12141426

File: 0b031c4e839aff8⋯.png (3.53 MB, 2636x1300, 659:325, 0b031c4e839aff879cd62ef262….png)

>>12141415

>sluggish schizophrenia was possibly used to target the minority of thinking peoples and stuff them in an asylum to have them killed quietly behind closed doors

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia

Imagine wanting to kill the only beings that could pull your out of the mud because you're too stupid to know any better.

Don't worry, we'll all have access to a super intelligence eventually and reality shall become the sum of human will.

You don't have to murder your betters out of spit. You merely need to wait and you wont have to worry about the concept of better anymore.


5b8b12  No.12141437

>>12141426

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia

>loped in the 1960s by Soviet psychiatrist Andrei Snezhnevsky and his colleagues,[3][4] and was used exclusively in the USSR and several Eastern Bloc countries, until the fall of Communism starting in 1989

???

whats your point dude.

WHATS YOUR POINT


5b8b12  No.12141444

File: 51b42fd461500ec⋯.jpg (65.51 KB, 600x400, 3:2, fitting image.jpg)

>>12141426

thats LITERALLY all i need to read to know you have serious problems.

And no.

You are not one of the chosen suppressed ones who are going to metamorph into a beautiful butterfly once all the bad oppression stops and you can be the glorious flying faggot you actually are


547c94  No.12141450

>>12141437

What is your opinion of communism?


5b8b12  No.12141490

>>12141450

its one of 2 bad options.

It is the worse one out of the two.

(Dont come with the trillion derivats of one of the 2 now please)

Overpopulation is the key word here


5b8b12  No.12141492

>>12141490

PLUS

not clearing out the WEAK by trial of nature


9d4716  No.12141494

My dreams don’t involve faggots


9d4716  No.12141500

Yes, hate. I hate what you’re doing and who you’re doing it for


8808a8  No.12141525

>>12141415

Get gassed fag.


8808a8  No.12141527

Can’t even sleep because goons don’t follow the rules.


8808a8  No.12141533

>>12141444

Die in a gay oven, your digits demand it.

Glad I am not OP


5b8b12  No.12142001

>>12141533

so trips now demand to die in a gay oven?

is it still summer?


b2bbed  No.12142007

Wouldn't a lack of an inner monologue basically imply psychopathy in these people? No inner voice means no guilt for your actions, or at least no way to understand your feelings of guilt.


b2bbed  No.12142016

>>12136393

It just goes to show how worthless and incapable the average person is.


a4ed55  No.12142541

File: 5efc38bc3fa414a⋯.jpg (80.16 KB, 350x570, 35:57, knapp_hall_fields.jpg)

>>12136702

A little more complex than that.


dc3e24  No.12142611

>thinking in speech

>limiting your thoughts to what language allows you to think

I never imagined people could be this stupid.


000000  No.12142940

>>12137436

Exactly this.


0daed4  No.12145242

File: 4dd0e6634a3fe7b⋯.png (108.76 KB, 409x500, 409:500, Magden.png)

>tfw rampant inferiority complex that arises when I drawfag

>autism not only acts as a magnifier but it also tightens up my comfort zone, or range of what I feel like drawing

>it's always gotta be "perfect" or safe, so the same shit ends up being done mostly

>try doing gesture studies

>it actually sorta helps, even if the brain's a clueless bumblefuck

Oh, here's an important tidbit:

It's a not-well-known fact that counsellors and shrinks who are not well-versed in patients with autism cannot really help patients with autism who also have depression or whatever (outside of medication)–the talking phase is completely hopeless. An autist will talk the therapist into circles and give a million excuses why not to try x, or they will have already tried x but it didn't work, or the therapist will give useless suggestions to the patient that the patient CANNOT carry out in a workable fashion–particularly if the suggestion is way too broad; or the patient, when questioned, will not be able to give answers that are helpful to the therapist because they don't understand their own situation.


8edfe6  No.12145361

I think in words, going as far to even have conversations in my own mind with myself , real or imagined persons sometimes. Working sometimes shuts it off (doing mechanical work) , but one bizarre thing that happened was I learned to count cards in Black Jack , Knockout Card counting the easiest system there is , it requires no division and is a series of adding or subtracting 1’s O’s 2’s and their negative counterparts, I replaced the word negative in my mind with the letter R , so the count might go 1 , 0 , r1 , 2 , r1 for a total of 1 , after hours of doing this at the table (months/year’s practice) while engaging in some minimal conversation, I had a weird feeling like I was looking into another dimension or I was one with the Astral plane or something


b10126  No.12145903

>>12141224

I don't think Antifa recognize social status in the way most people do, at least not on their forums. There are forum moderators and frequent posters who are recognized by others as being well versed in bullshit which I suppose lends them some degree of social status within their group, but nothing more significant than an extremely small ideological following confined specifically to the forum.

There is a large degree of disagreement on antifa forums regarding retarded variations of communist ideologies. Most posters demonstrate a remarkably cogent ability to defend their unworkable ideas, and will often cite sources (mainly conjecture by ideological figures) to defend their ideas. There is an additional fracture point regarding methods of direct action, and this topic generates a great deal of spirited debate. Some pacifist antifa believe that community service is the right way to defeat "the fash" (anyone to the right of Jeb) by winning over the hearts and minds of communities which they hope will reject "fascism" in factor of "anarchism". Other, more militant types believe that violence is the only way to defeat the right. Of course there are many variations of direct action that they suggest that would fall in between these two extremes.

It would be foolish to believe that antifa are "NPCs" like the rest of society is. Most of them are actually independent thinkers and not idiots, just mentally ill and very misguided. However, this point matters to me little because they will fly out of the helicopters just the same.

>>12141293

I make too much money to take people like you seriously.


8c4290  No.12146053

>>12145903

I was thinking the problem with them would be more motivation than anything else. I was curious about the correlation though, because I figure that the more well-established and liked members would be more capable of expressing thoughts. They also have the flexibility to convey less orthodox ideas without being ostracized from the group. It's a more general pattern I notice in groups where anonymity doesn't exist.

If it holds true to Antifa, then it's vulnerable to moderate to high regarded individuals influencing its overall direction. However this would obviously be counterbalanced by their handlers leveraging their funds against them. Makes me wonder how Antifa would behave if they somehow became self-funded and such individuals weighed in their thoughts more?


6b3bed  No.12146086

>>12142611

>I never imagined

Of course you didn't, you have no inner monologue


25d2f2  No.12146204

>>12127588

The people who only sometimes report inner dialogue are not necessarily philosophical zombies, but there's definitely something wrong with never having experienced inner dialogue. Given the small sample size of the study it's possible that they were just lying. It's also possible that they were stupid and thought inner dialogue meant "hearing voices in my head" which they associated with being crazy. So, they denied it.


53d51f  No.12146591

File: 9f350104f86763d⋯.jpeg (294.13 KB, 2000x1334, 1000:667, 1 m5fC1Gy_3vRcdO4rNCqYLA.jpeg)

BTFO

https://medium.com/@vicobiscotti/stop-your-inner-speech-for-more-efficient-thinking-9c9555ccc932


fbd93c  No.12146761

>>12128159

>a jumbled up mess of words with no coherence or meaning

sort of like the brainletts ITT


b7eb2a  No.12146880

>>12136236

You can always tell by the psychopathic modern art, shock comedy, shitty robotic soulless music, and sexualization of everything.

They have no souls and are completely detached from humanity. They feel they have to subvert society, reshape it hoping that one day maybe theywill be tolerable.


000000  No.12146969

>>12146591

It's no coincidence he's an engineer. Think of all the elegant solution blueprints rotating, transforming and zooming in and out in his head.

Oh wait, most of you "I can't believe so many NPCs" people can't.

(sage for crap thread)


8e1a93  No.12147002

>>12127588

>CUCKCHAN MODS ARE APPARENTLY COVERING THIS UP, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT NPCs

Can confirm. I was recently banned for making an NPC thread on /pol/. Will post proof after breakfast. Just waking up now.


8e1a93  No.12147050

File: ae94e5bde64566c⋯.png (57.08 KB, 1123x483, 1123:483, banned.PNG)


9547fc  No.12147054

>>12137114

No, a high IQ is not necessary, though it does help, since a high IQ is often combined with intellectual overexcitability. You can be very smart in an accountant or engineer kind of way while being completely numb to the world around you. What is necessary is being sensitive to the world around you in a way most people are not. In the theory, there are 5 different overexcitabilities that predispose you to disintegration. Those are psychomotoric, sensual, imaginary, intellectual and emotional over-excitability.


9547fc  No.12147064

>>12134915

Subconscious in this context means the learned things you do without being aware of them. For example you might have learned from your parents or your school system to behave in a certain way, without being consciously aware that you behave in this way or way you behave like this. For example you can subconsciously regard persons in a position of authority with more esteem than people that are not in a position of authority, because you have been conditioned to do so. To progress to a higher level means your unconscious behavior becomes conscious. So you might still for example regard people in a position of authority with higher esteem, but now it is a conscious decision of which you are aware. Instead of being on auto-pilot, now every decision you make and every little thing you do is a conscious decision that is in line with your internal morals. This is what it means to progress to Dabrowski's higher levels. I hope that makes sense to you.


8c4290  No.12147075

>>12147054

So it all boils down to a scale of situational awareness and meta-cognition?


9547fc  No.12147099

>>12134544

I should have worded it differently. It was not meant in a new age bullshit way, but in a very concrete way. Psychedelics will dissolve your ego when you are on them, meaning that things you do and ways you think without being aware of them suddenly become apparent to you, as if you were regarding yourself from an external perspective. This allows you to rapidly adjust and change yourself in a matter of days, whereas that process normally takes years.

I also mentioned it in the context of antidepressants. Psychedelics have potent antidepressant effects, and are better antidepressants than conventional antidepressants because they don't just improve your mood, they allow you to be introspective and realize what caused your depression, and solve the cause. I mean soul here not in a literal sense, but I reference the soul more as a metaphor for the absolute core of somebody's being: The things that make that person what he is, the character of a person, all the little quirks and details that combine form a person.

As somebody that has been busy with self improvement for a very long time, psychedelics are the single most potent self improvement tool there is, allowing for a rapid metamorphosis in a very short time. I understand you have a negative opinion of them, due to the vast majority of users being hippie boomer retards that don't use them in the correct fashion. But see them for the tool they are. When used correctly, they are very potent agents of change.


b6c512  No.12147101

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9547fc  No.12147110

>>12147075

Yeah, you got the gist of it. The process of developing situational awareness is called multilevel disintegration. The development of a constant drive for meta-cognition and self-improvement is aptly called 'the emergence of the third factor' by Dabrowski. I don't have time to elaborate now, but look up the third factor to find out more about this.

In the sheet on my post on the very right it is described as 'Creative Instincts emerging', 'Self-Perfection Instinct' and 'Developmental Instinct', all of which fall under the umbrella of the third factor.


e53ee3  No.12147606

File: 54e81be5b65140d⋯.jpg (8.24 KB, 268x269, 268:269, 7f6789y.jpg)

>>12147050

you must be shitting me.

pointing out the bullshit banality of small minded slaves is wrongthink goy oy vey


25d2f2  No.12149841

>>12146591

I'm new to these threads, but I have to say I can't even imagine reading without inner dialogue. As I read words I hear them in my head. It's completely automatic. Are there actually people who don't hear an inner voice as they read?


aa70aa  No.12150503

>>12134941

>>12133614

There are actually quite a few British composers and there was a ton of music and songs separate to each town and village until very recently, but you probably need to understand the culture a little more and you would realise why we do not hear much about it. The nation has always been socially divided (since the Bastard anyway) and the largely French aristocracy was far more interested in French fashions and culture than the Anglos or Celts who made up their nation. Thankfully it was a very advanced nation and we have a ton of records from most everywhere detailing the local songs and histories, it just requires a very annoying amount of research to get specifics.

An easy proof is watching old WW1& 2 films, there are often scenes of people singing along and playing music in pubs, with British descended Bongs, Yanks and Aussies all sharing their well known ones.

As a further aside, after the French nobility ignored anything from Anglos or Celts you would have a lot of yids who would not only ignore but activively hide and destroy whatever culture, music or fashions they could. Essentially it was downplayed and hidden because of Frogaboos. Today however a lot of 'advanced' music has been pioneered by Anglos and Celts with examples like heavy metal, indie and pop (before it was all dumbed down and commercialised anyway).


2c8c86  No.12150510

>>12127601

Soulless NPC detected.


122ef8  No.12150515

Any of you with a GF. Are they NPCs? I'm generally uninterested in women as they all seemed shallow and pointless other than as breeders. Maybe I keep finding NPCs. Do PC women exist?


2c8c86  No.12150542

>>12131342

They can never just stop and enjoy whats around them and think about it. They always have to have music on or be texting someone.


88e184  No.12150565

>>12142001

Is it fall?


cbe971  No.12150596

>>12150515

Women are programmable NPCs that you can make more agreeable, the problem is they are programmable by their social circle and media too.


210460  No.12150698

I hung out with a girl recently who's been brainwashed into the SJW culture, she cut her hair and dyed it. Now she's going on about starting up her youtube channel. I could even see the chip implant in the side of her head at one point


210460  No.12150708

>>12150698

I think a big heads up on telling if someone is an NPC is if they assume their life in a meaningless culture. If they're all about star wars and have all the star wars shit they can do nothing but consume that product.


a8b493  No.12150855

File: d4bdb0b7536b623⋯.jpg (189.57 KB, 1049x1049, 1:1, npc feels.jpg)

>>12127588

To all the faggots who think NPCs only has to do with the kike study in OP are missing the point. NPC theory has been around for at least 2 years here, and is an not only an apt way at describing clueless normalfags, but a staple of esoteric threads (which are philosophy and meta-physics, not "science”).

That being said, as someone who spent some time reading a plethora of kike papers by the authors in the OP, I can say that while most anons misunderstood the shitty (((Psychology Today))) article, the authors still come to disturbing conclusions, that are at least somewhat backed by evidence.

These faggots Heavey and Hurlburt, have published probably a dozen papers on this topic and Hulrburt even wrote a whole book on “introspective experiences.” They've ran many similar iterations of study in OP on not only uni students but also on bi-polar and other “psychologically distressed” people. Basically, the give people beepers that go off randomly during the day and have them record their exact thoughts unadulterated by subsequent observation and interpretation. They go through a long involved process to extensively train the participants to recall exactly what they are thinking at the time the beeper goes off. They came out with basically the same results every single time. Hurlburt even did an fMRI study with similar results, where the people who had no inner voice had no activation in language centers of the brain, (same with non-inner seers and visual activation, etc..). While fMRI studies can be kikey in general, they are very good at accurately monitoring motor control and language activation.

All interesting stuff, but still not exactly hard science. The overwhelming majority of people probably all have an inner voice (and inner seer, etc…) at least some of the time in some specific situations, it just that they're just not very good at using it for a number of unclear reasons. Even people who prominently think with an inner voice also think in other modes, not just in language exclusively.

Anon who can't into greentext, >>12128029, also hit major overlooked point:

>Almost a quarter of people engaged in "thought" without the awareness of that thought being conveyed in words, images, or any other symbols, and half of all participants engaged in this type of “thinking” in at least a quarter of their samples.

This was another consistent results across a decade of studies they've done. Even after extensive coaching on how to describe their experiences accurately, many people do not only not have an inner voice, they don't have inner images, words, or other symbols. Just vague feels and sensory input. Spoopy. All of this should be taken with a grain of salt, but it lends credence to the ultimate analysis of normalfags, NPC Theory.


c727b0  No.12150884

>>12145903

>I make too much money to take people like you seriously.

>muh money makes me important

I was born a millionaire, you semitic piece of shit, go fuck yourself.


27c17b  No.12150900

Don't spam God

t. Terry

You stupid fucking glow in the dark cia gorilla niggers.


e53ee3  No.12151689

File: 3a2ff4b73222a99⋯.png (484.94 KB, 432x442, 216:221, 1532468635169.png)

>>12150855

Quality post.

Does NPC stand for non-player character?


5ef2ba  No.12152322

Its funny what the studies may reveal about college kids. However, we need a bigger sample size.

Also, instinctual/"NPC" actions are sometimes preferable, especially in quick time events.


e53ee3  No.12152451

>>12132546

already on that high horse I see


ded3f2  No.12153165

File: 9383aa1ca77057b⋯.jpg (181.58 KB, 985x865, 197:173, ANGRY DOG NOISES ULTIMATE.jpg)

>>12127601

Nigger, the ability to think in words is what allows you to logically analyze a given situation. Images and spiritual concepts are better used for creative and emotional thinking, they would be a great tool for writing for example.

When you want to analyze a situation in the logical sense of the word, you take it apart with your inner voice. Being unable to think verbally means that you are unable to think logically. How the fuck do you niggers don't understand this? Even doing simple calculations means that you are reading them out in your head, you don't do math with images, you do it with your voice. Have you ever tried to learn logic? Logic as in mathematical subfield, if you learn that fucking subfield, even learning the very basics, you will be able to see that this is the very basis of how we formulate sentences. Fuck, most sentences CAN be broken into a logical equation.

Do you understand what this fucking means? This means that language teaches you that very fucking skill before you can even comprehend the ideas behind logic itself. It means that by thinking with your inner voice you are taking apart the problem you are facing by the way of a mathematical equation portayed as language.

NOT DOING THAT DOESN'T JUST MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO DESCRIBE YOUR FUCKING THOUGHTS

IT MEANS THAT YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND MORE COMPLEX IDEAS BY ANY OTHER MEANS THAN SUPERFICIAL THINKING BY THE LINES OF "X-GOOD" "Y-BAD"


ded3f2  No.12153347

>>12131344

>If you are a Player you will notice that no matter where you go you will always end up with the same kind of friends. A few templates will be forever attracted to you, and you will always end up with the "same people" no matter where you are. These will seem copies of the group you previously knew.

On one hand this seems true, but on the other hand it feels like this might be also be influenced by the fact that all people in the world can be grouped by personality by "archetypes" they follow. This goes both for NPC's and players, we ourselves are an example of that. Although we differ a lot from each, other, we still follow the "archetype" of "anon" which has different sub-archetypes, which makes us share common qualities.


a1e5fc  No.12153421

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>>12153165

>Even doing simple calculations means that you are reading them out in your head, you don't do math with images, you do it with your voice.

Shieeeeet


7cfbc4  No.12154003

>>12127652

Well I wasn't aware of the other options, I can picture something in my mind with my imagination, or visualize/feeling action but these aren't convenient for thinking.


1db2fa  No.12154010

>>12153165

Correction brainlet. YOU do math with your inner voice.


5f0b06  No.12154022

>>12153165

>How the fuck do you niggers don't understand this?

Hi.


1db2fa  No.12154034

Voice fags are a genetic dead end.

They seriously think that verbal auditory circuit is efficient thinking. How silly.

Behold the power of autism: http://archive.is/tpE0U

Combining visual and emotional and textual thinking for super fast computation

>The numbers are moving in my mind," he says. "Sometimes they're fast, sometimes they're slow. Sometimes they're dark. Sometimes they're bright. That emotion, that motion, that texture will be highly memorable for me."

The verbal auditory circuit is a handicap: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2667065/


1db2fa  No.12154040

>>12154034

Verbal fags are NPCs if only for their absolute inability to concieve of other modes of thought.


a7165e  No.12154080

27. And the wickedness of a Soul is ignorance; for the Soul that knows nothing of the things that are, neither the Nature of them, nor that which is good, but is blinded, rusheth and dasheth against the bodily Passions, and unhappy as it is, not knowing itself, it serveth strange Bodies, and evil ones, carrying the Body as a burthen, and not ruling, but ruled. And this is the mischief of the Soul.

28. On the contrary, the virtue of the Soul is Knowledge; for he that knows is both good and religious, and already Divine

enlightened people have inner thoughts while wicked and evil people have no comprehension of thinking.


05d706  No.12154086

>>12154040

>>12154034

3 threads in and the garden variety NPC who claims thought equality has now been joined by the radicalized NPC who claims thought superiority. Where have I seen this before?


a7165e  No.12154444

27. And the wickedness of a Soul is ignorance; for the Soul that knows nothing of the things that are, neither the Nature of them, nor that which is good, but is blinded, rusheth and dasheth against the bodily Passions, and unhappy as it is, not knowing it