/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

Define illegal content. Free speech is illegal in many countries now days.

>>12455558

content that violates US or international law

Were the pages at Metapedia archived?

>>12455570

maybe a few on webarchive

Not clicking your honeypot fed

>>12455623

if you wanna get around defamation laws you gotta make the whole site parody, but its not ED

yea good luck policing the leftist vandalism

We already have archives of /pol/ enjoy your turnip farm.

Infogalactic.

>>12455541

oh look a product that no one wants

>>12455704

Leave your mother out of this anon she's a nice lady!

>>12455541

Why use the normal web? The advantages of going dark are all positive, and you don't have to worry about "illegal content" (just keep the pedos away).

EVERY TIME YOU VIRTUE SIGNALLING FUCKS START THROWING BIG WORDS AROUND AND TAKING UNNECESSARY STANDS AND RUBBING IT IN PEOPLES FACES IS WHEN IT GETS SHUT THE FUCK DOWN FUCKING STOP IT AND STOP WITH THIS CRAB BUCKET MENTALITY OF PUTTING BULLYING IN YOUR TOS YOU FUCKS

>>12455671

the point of wikipedia is to have a bunch of admins going around deleting peoples shit about anything meaningful

>>12455738

That's what it's become because people keep taking it too much to fact like retards

>>12455671

This

Wayyyy back in the last century when I was in HS and there was no tubes to do "research"my definition is research increases the collective wisdom of mankind not merely catching up on what is already known you had to go to the library and you started with the encyclopedia.

I have heard of current teachers assigning papers and in no uncertain terms saying wikipedia is not to be used as a source material. My thought was wow an actual smart teacher.

The problem with making it editable by anyone is that anyone will edit it. Which means you'll have paid armies of hasbara agents fucking around with stuff so that it becomes unreliable. (Assuming it becomes popular, of course.) But, I applaud the idea.

>>12455748

>I have heard of current teachers assigning papers and in no uncertain terms saying wikipedia is not to be used as a source material. My thought was wow an actual smart teacher.

This was true of professors in the early 2000's when I was in college too, but all people did then was follow the wikipedia source links.

>>12455752

It would be interesting if threads of discussion and a change management system existed that could vet changes somehow. Example would be like a git that reads like a stack exchange for change management. The article discussion sections of wikipedia are horrible.

>>12455541

First things first, a pay processing business, domain registry business, web services business, then you can setup things like this.

/pol/ is a NatSoc board. Peddle your (((right-wing))) garbage on Gab.

>>12455766

domain name is registered by ISNIC, a friend who runs a much more extreme site with a .is name talked to the ISNIC CEO and they dont get rid of anything except like terrorist websites, so its pretty solid

the hosting service is solid as well

>>12455766

>First things first, a pay processing business, domain registry business, web services business, then you can setup things like this.

>crypto

>offshore, also ways to disguise

>offshore, also ways to disguise

>>12455671

Probably the Achilles heel of Wikipedia is their rules on primary sources. Everything there has to be filtered through (usually multiple) sources before it gets to the site, making it highly unreliable. If it was just a site for recording the abstracts of books and journal articles and the reviews and meta-analyses of said books and articles, then it would be more useful, because you could see all the scholarship at once and weigh the opinion of the so called experts.

Naturally, such a site would not be normie approved, because they have to be spoonfed knowledge from the Ministry of Truth.

>>12455774

Yet site after site is getting shutdown, people denied services in droves, somehow I think there's more to it than "just crypto and offshore it, problem solved."

>>12455723

>one kike on stick

nah ill pass

EVERYONE IS A PAID JEWISH SHILL!!!

REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

HOW DO I GET THIS PAID JOOISH SHILL GIG??????

>>12455671

Yeah i'm gonna stick with Wikipedia. If chans are anything to go buy, these rivals will just be filled with wewuzniggers and a bunch of ancient alien shit.

>>12455666

well even satan knows about vox day ..

infogalatic boys not this jewsish knockoff

No article for Hitler. It's shit.

>>12455570

Rightpedia is down too. There is definitely some kikery afoot.

>>12455554

>>12455566

Why is this not a ban? The whole VPN provider should be banned.

An alternative is always good. Thanks for making one. Also, quite catchy name and logo

>>12455773

Time will tell if you'll actually get to keep the domain, meanwhile pay processing and web services still to address.

>>12455541

>one that is NOT DELETIONIST, unlike Vox Days Infogalactica

How is Infogalactic deletionist?

>>12456159

duplicate content reduces SEO ranking

Also, it was considered, but we want Tome to be an original experience found on google search rankings

>>12456159

they have more or less the same policy that wikipedia does as far as deleting pages because they arent notable enough, and notability shouldnt be decided by the site admin

>>12455541

Why is "Metapedia" shut down?

>>12456280

>https://tome.is

database error, aka lazy site owners

>>12455848

Currently I don't believe we have much of a choice. Centralized services that facilitate payments for supporting wrong-think apparently can't exist in todays environment. Crypto is the only method for sending/receiving payments and transferring money anonymously. Crypto is not the end solution but it is useful given the current atmosphere.

Hosting services are another issue because this is again where centralization presents the primary weakness. Currently the only solutions are to find hosting in countries with less kiked laws, or to go deepweb to minimize exposure to outgroups. Distributed site hosting exists but obfuscating the nature of what is being hosted from the hosting company hasn't come very far. What needs to be developed are techniques to prevent a host from knowing the identity of the site / content attached to an account.

Those entries on Wikipedia that are a) frequently manipulated or are b) outright fabrications and social/cultural engineering are a great place to start; or just a great area to focus upon for content

>>12455541

If no one cites it, or regards it as a valid source but us, then it might as well be Daily Stormer effectively.

>>12456472

ah, an adolf hitler page already

>>12455623

Why would those two things be conducive to a "wiki" anon? They wouldn't, a wiki is an information archive.

>noun: wiki; plural noun: wikis

>a website or database developed collaboratively by a community of users, allowing any user to add and edit content.

>>12456038

>not using a VPN

>>12455671

Wikipedia has been totally taken over by leftwingers, they even have MEGA accounts that do like 300k changes a year. All left wing edits of course.

>>12455541

>>on the clear web

>>won't have its domain kiked

I bet you use (((Cloudflare))) to prevent DDOS, you should look into who owns and operates (((Cloudflare))).

>>12456673

>https://tome.is

That is why we really need blockchian sites, or at a bare minimum .onion backups.

>>12455623

>international law

you need to drop that one, "hate speech" is against international law.

>>12456653

>not bare backing the internet

>>12456673

>>12456676

Cloudflare took down dailystormer because dailystomer claimed cloudflare endorsed their site and views

ISNIC booted dailystormer because they wouldnt provide valid WHOIS details

ISNIC is legit for Tome, as its CEO is based

>>12455563

>or international law

why? isn't US law the only requirement? international law can't be enforced

also isn't this basically encyclopedia dramatica?

>>12456929

ED admins delete pages it doesnt like (delitionism), is outdated, and wont cover as much territory as Tome

but yea ED is cool

>>12455671

Have you ever actually looked through the references listed on the average wikipedia page ?

Most of it isn't cited at all, or is referenced so poorly it may as well not be.

It's ok for any non-controversial topic but for anything with even a bit of political content, historical content or controversial cultural content it's worse than useless.

>>12455541

What steps have you taken to break the oppositions playbook of:

1. Larp as hardcore to drive out the middle or curious

2. Fill content with stuff that bothers the people looking for such

3. Organize protests against advertisers, ISPs etc

>>12456963

2. direct media uploads are turned off, all uploads must be requested in an edit through a URL link

3. the hosting service is legit, and even if it was taken down, backups are routinely made and a backup server would be up in 5 minutes

The hard part if retaining a domain name, switching domain names kill a website. But my friend e.g. who operates an even more controversial site has spoken with the domain registrar CEO of ISNIC (.is), and they are VERY-pro-free-speech within the law, despite Icelands hate-speech-laws. Those hate-speech-laws are only enforcale in in iceland and not for outside users of .is

Dailystormer got kicked off .is because they refused to provide valid WHOIS details, we gave ISNIC valid WHOIS details

>>12456939

What pages did ED delete?

>>12456991

The .IS tld is for entities with a connection to iceland. If you're not from iceland they can turn you off just for being a foreigner using a country tld.

And CEOs change jobs and get replaced. Even the based ones.

>>12456258

this

>>12455748

>I have heard of current teachers assigning papers and in no uncertain terms saying wikipedia is not to be used as a source material.

Thjat's old news faggot. This was arequirement when iI was in german Gymnasium. No wikipdia.

And I am 28 now, so it was 14 years ago

>International Law.

So you enforce other countries' hate speech laws like Wikipedia does to get that sweet George Soros donation money. That's all I need to know that you're in this for the shekels, Mr. Nose.

>>12455541

Is this gonna be some gay shit like conservapedia?

>>12457182

Lel just what I thought. It's basically gonna be NatSoc Goonipedia

We need a Wikipedo competitor but not a fucking clone that promises libertarian ideals. Wikipedo sucks because it's mob rule, and it would be very difficult for any group of pro-white editors to counter the legions of paid anti-white shills. The only acceptable solution would be to make a sort-of online Encyclopedia Britannica where you need to know something and go there for definitive answers. It can't be edited by the kikes, only the site owner gets final say of what's put up hopefully the site owner isn't a cuck. It doesn't need to copy all of Kikepedo's pages, just cover the big ones like the white race, white genocide and evidence, nigger and a pic crime statistics, changing demographics and the effects of that, truth of the holocaust, etc. Competing with Kikepedo really isn't possible since they manipulate Google search info too.

>>12455541

>Deletionist

I hate these on the spot invented words. It reeks of liberal "faggotism".

I'm not against the idea though, its good.

Let's hope it'll not get shoah'd in 3 seconds.

>>12457643

its a widely used work on wikipedia referring to those who prefer to delete pages rather than leave pages up

>>12457199

>The .IS tld is for entities with a connection to iceland.

Not true

>>12455541

You forgot to import Metapedia

>>12457754

Damn, the site[1] is still down I see… not sure how long it'd take them to get it back up again.

[1]: https://en.metapedia.org/

>>12456660

this

Some companies even hire people to edit articles to be in (((Their))) favour.

>>12456038

that's standard on all wikis

>>12455541

>https://tome.is

Made my first article!

https://tome.is/index.php/OP

>>12455541

A+ effort.

One question, is the data centralized or distributed?

>>12457981

distributed across multiple locations on monthly intervals

>>12455671

> The whole idea of Wikipedia isn't inherently bad, the problem with Wikipedia has always been people take it too much to fact, when what its main purpose always was, was to give people a stepping off point to start real research into a topic by finding credible sources

That's one problem. The other problem is that Wikipedia staff are paid off by the Rothshilds, Democrats, and multiple governments to maintain their party lines.

https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Wikipedia#Affiliations

>>12455555

Check'd

leftypol has already written more than us on Tome lol

>>12474438

/pol/ doesn't ever do anything, if they did, they'd have already won by now

>>12474593

we got Trump -shrug-

fuuuuuuuuuck

this

its ruined

>>12455541

>political affiliation

Dropped

Just write a crawler to slowly copy wikipedia.

Then edit out inaccuracies and jewish trick with other anons. You're protected under fair use. Just like they are protected for their articles by fair use.

>>12475850

>stormfags

>t. stormfag

Are you confused? Stormfront is and has been proven to be a leftist controlled front.

>>12475928

Let me guess, JOOOOOOOOOZ?.

>>12455541

Don't we have Metapedia?

>>12456009

Bad idea.

>>12455541

>bunkers meme/Cat Alunya

Nice one, /leftypol/

>>12455723

>the "devil" gives the fruit of knowledge

>(((god))) tries to shut it down

hmmm

>>12475844

>slowly copy wikipedia

You can just download a copy of the database for free

They even have the deleted 9/11 wiki available that proves that jews did it.

>>12477641

Then why the OP doesn't do this is beyond me.

>>12477641

>>12478965

because repeat articles decreases SEO

infogalactica never shows in google results for a reason

plus this i intended to be an original experience

>>12480616

what was the licensing of it?

>>12480616

OP here in the goyer room, is that where you are?

ok so heres the deal:

Metapedia was licensed under the GDPL, which is fucking horrible license that is hard to work with.

They also copied most of their stuff from wikipedia back when wikipedia only used GDPL

ill copy the good articles that werent from wikipedia and using the terms of the GDPL onto Tome, even though itll take a lot of time and work to abide by the GDPL

so even if metapedia comes back up, it may go down again some day so itll be somewhere else as well

>>12455541

I support you anon

>>12506812

its like the neet equivalent of nigger music

>>12455541

why only register the domain for 1 year?

>>12480590

so basically you want us to copy-paste everything for you?

hello

Some /leftypol/ dumbfuck just vandalized the main page again, where the hell are the editors?

What about metapedia?

How's the honeypot going?

>>12511353

Its not a honeypot

>>12511343

It's a shit wiki and compromised as fuck

>>12455541

Why is there some furry shit on the front page? Also:

>https://tome.is/w/Xexizy_(Youtube_Vlogger)

This reads like something from rational wiki mixed with ED. The rest seems sort of nice.

>>12511374

Can you fix it? Im unable to edit for a bit.

There already is one. It's called metapedia

>>12480590

Infogalactic never shows up in (((google))) search results because the jews do not like competition they do not control

>>12455541

You sound butthurt over infogalactic OP? Did vox delete the page about your favorite furry porn?

There are other wikis out there, but this one is ours

>>12455671

>(((credible sources)))

I hate Adolf Hitler because although he was partially right about the Gypsies and the Kikes (he was heretically wrong to consider them White), he allied himself with filthy Arabs, shook the hands of uppity Niggers, and gave his endorsement to the savages of the Spics.

He said that Islam was superior to Christianity as he cuddled up to Catholics, while at the same time endorsing the Atheistic Nihilism of Nietzsche, and Having that gall to rewrite the Bible because he thought it wasn't Nationalistic enough, He set animals free from zoos and integrated them into the army and youth league, shook the hand of an ape and gave it a shoe sponsorship after putting it in the same hotel as Whites, He got close with the street-shitters simply because they were making things difficult for the British, who were his fellow whites.

There is no limit to the things Hitler had done and the beliefs he had held that /pol/ would strongly hate him for if he were NOT Adolf Hitler.

Now I understand that Hitler also did quite a lot that /pol/ likes him for:

Nationalizing the banks, restoring German pride and traditionalism, killing and opposing the Communists, Hated the Jews (for being communists and orchestrating the events following WW1, including the "agreements" forced upon Germany, and the opportunism of the aftermath), made Homosexuality and Transgenderism illegal, endorsed Eugenics, and made things difficult for Slavs, Gypsies, and Kikes, not killing them or anything, because the Mass-Executions of the Holocaust never happened, instead the plan was to send the Jews away to establish their own state, so he was basically a Jewish Nationalist, and this was a people he HATED.

Personally, I'd rather put my support in someone who is all good, instead of mostly good mixed with a little bad, if such a man does not exist, I shall become that man, and mold others into being such men myself.

So, as heretical as it is: Adolf Hitler was overrated, and the best thing he's good for nowadays is pissing off the cucks of the right, center, left, etc.

>>12514410

Got any reason to doubt me?

We know Metapedia and Infogalactic suck and are compromised.

Besides, there is really no comparison here, those wikis were for the Aut-Right, this is for 8/pol/.

>>12514430

Every reason, jew.

>>12514439

That's quite vague, care to be more specific?

>>12514446

The IRL version of Hitler is very different from /pol/'s version of him, he'd probably oppose much of what /pol/ supports, and I know for a fact that /pol/ opposes much of what he supported.

Hitler is over-rated, he was not a /pol/ack, deal with it.

>>12514497

Hey, did I get anything wrong about Hitler?

Was I wrong about /pol/?

Is there really any way to argue that these two match up?

I'm still a national socialist, It's the best political system humanity has seen up till this point, and I want to give Hitler the respect he deserves for giving it to the world, but I'm still going to be realistic about his flaws, you could see this as an act of showing respect as well.

Maybe "hate" was too strong a word, I choose it poorly as a way to describe how I feel about him, more like, I hate how /pol/ pretends he was perfect, ignoring all that ways he and the board would be in disagreement with one another, he's overrated, that's all.

>>12514487

>oy vey goyim hitler hates you and everything you are lol wow you are terrible now you are demoralized I win now

Global report.

>>12514600

>lol I believe what hitler believes but hitler doesn't believe anything you believe and I also hate hitler and I hate you and hitler hates you and everything you are is wrong

>lol wow you believe things that I say you do because I say you do

>now you're wrong

>because I say so

Commit suicide.

>>12455541

Is this related to that old archiving program years ago called Tomeraider?

>>12514487

>oy vey

>>12515053

Way to miss the point that he refused to kill the jews, either he was going to send them away, or he was going to bring them back into germany once the war ended, was he going to kill them afyer the war? Or do you think the holocayst happened now?

Also, the "killing them after the war" is certainly the best of available options, but its a hell of a lot worse than the ideal "kill them in germany instead of sending them to camps".

Hitler was not infallible, we are better now than he was, and what i meant by my prevoius hate statement is that i hate this cult worship you have for what the man represented, and the refusal to accept who he really was.

Basically, Hitler was like Trump is today, and even back then, there were better options, i was disapointed when i discovered he wasnt the jew killer i first wss told he was, i admired hitler the exterminator.

I've crashed this thread, with no survivors

All I had to do was question the central dogma of the Nazis

tome.is

I've made some changes to it, tell me what you think

>>12539518

Make a wikipedia fork and edit the articles that have factual problems

>>12539555

ok

Bump

>>12455541

except you're going to get shutdown/blocked once you get big enough or else co-opted by sjws. good idea, but prepare.

>>12562194

We shall, mirrors and alts are in place, if they clear us off of the web, we go deep web. Like the stormfags.

>(((Googlesyndication.com))) tracker

Yep, kill yourself. Fuck off with your honeypot.

>>12562500

well, shit, you're right.

fuck, I didn't set any of this (website) up, but I made some edits I don't want to lose, I like the name "tome", and I feel we definitely need to create our own wiki (as opposed to the infogalactica and metapedia, both of which are NOT ours, and DO NOT represent our views).

Maybe we should move it somewhere else?, That feels like a bad idea too.

What do you think should be done?

>>12455623

>>12455541

>one that is NOT DELETIONIST, unlike Vox Days Infogalactica

>muh harassment

Sounds "deletionist" to me.

>>12456650

>the CSIS payroll's edgelord being the controlled opposition to other CSIS assets (((Warren and Lisa Kinsella)))

I just hope that all of you know the difference between being an effective subverter of censorship who has good OPSEC vs. someone with a narcissistic personality disorder playing a role in a masonic game.

NNTP. Distributed blockchains. It's not so much one autist's freeze peach site that is needed, it's widespread adoption of censor-proof and (((censor-proof))) technologies. Remember every third "freedom" activist is a kike who is not your friend. Discernment, trust, verification.

Note that this idea (a wiki created and run by 8/pol/) is relatively new to be placed into action.

As such, everything is subject to change:

The location is subject to change

The rules and policies are subject to change

The content is subject to change

and anything else about it is subject to change as well

we should move it to a more secure location and discuss accessibility and moderation, so that it remains the exclusive domain of 8/pol/.

we should change the policies and rules to be more friendly to 8/pol/'s community and it's culture.

we should work on strategies for securing adequate funding and archiving backup in case of attack or attempted subversion.

The idea itself is great, the entire world as 8/pol/ sees it, with all the redpills, the facts and sources, all in one place, and ready for distribution - this makes arguing our cases much easier, especially since it represents 8/pol/'s community as a whole, instead of any one individual anon.

It also builds a complete story of how our world came to be like this, a record of history as 8/pol/ sees it, with each part being supported by evidence, and all without the interference of the politics of (((acedemia))).

ssentially, it gives us a single cohesive narrative, which is a weapon in ourt favor since that is more powerful for awakening the sleepers than scattered facts with huge gaps in between, remember, most sleepers want everything given to them whole, they won't, and in many cases can't, make the efforts to piece things together for themselves, by given them a complete, gap-free (and factually correct) narrative, they will be more willing to listen, since there would be less confusing gaps that activate their need for closure.

It's a powerful idea in many ways, these are just a few, just because tome got off to a bad start, doesn't mean we should scrap the core idea behind it entirely, in fact, we should find a better way of doing it, because the rewards far exceed the risks.

BTW, our (((enemy))) already knows everything we believe, they could probably be able to write the entire wiki for us already, all this project will do is place us on even footing with the opposition - here we have everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

>>12455563

>or international law

jewgold, pls. you already have your clutches on the US.

>>12598773

Everyone i disagree with is a jew

Im a jew too

Everyone on /pol/ is a jew pretending to be a nazi

>>12455541

>We needed a Wikipedia competitor

Everyone who speaks the truth "IRL" is a wikipedia competitor.

Bump for response to Metapedia

>>12455671

No the problem that it covers politically relevant topics which means its going to be raided by hundreds of paid shills in Tel Aviv and Mumbai blocking and correcting the record and deleting information they dont want you to see or editing content to make you perceive it only from a preferred perspective or add shitty propaganda and then gets overused by shills as a replacement for actual sources.

Bump

>>12604455

lurked for 2 years to find this post, /pol/ is always right.

>no illegal content

So no truth ?

No holocaust denial ?

Vox Day's is better because it's deletionist. Useless information is useless. Libertardians are idiots. Free speech is how Leftists destroy your culture and faith.

>>or international law

Nope

the chances of this working are close to absolute zero. It won't be edgy enough for most 1488ers and it won't be left-wing enough to be granted access to payment processing.

nice LARP bucko, but without a new form of transmitting information this is a stalemate.

I'm pretty sure you're describing ED

awesome stuff

>>12607175

When will the penny finally drop?

You get out of Virginia City, you hear.