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000000  No.12658246

It is already possible to build a space elevator. The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.

See, for example, Paul Birch's writings:

http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-I.pdf

There are many other feasible ways for us to get to space much more cheaply and safely than rockets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1MAg0UAAHg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KerG4ILWEa4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_fountain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_gun

You get the idea. Any of these could be done for $100 billion or less, a negligible cost when considering a GDP of trillions of dollars.

Why do something like this? Overnight, asteroid mining becomes an incredibly profitable industry. Because the cost of delivering payloads to LEO drops from thousands of dollars per kilogram to less than $100 (potentially less than $1) we can now retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface. We acquire the ability to deploy profitable solar power in orbit above cloud cover and with the ability to return said power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator.

Just how profitable?

With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time. In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter. In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.

Why aren't we doing this?

bc37e7  No.12658252

File: 69c59a7247423d2⋯.png (137.68 KB, 713x1437, 713:1437, space commie cringe collec….png)

Libshits will stop that out of pure sour grapes & spite. If they can't go then no one does.


d8515d  No.12658255

WTF minerals are supposedly on an asteroid that are so priceless?

Can someone please post me a drawing of a space elevator so I can laugh?


90f955  No.12658277

File: df54640edd73a10⋯.jpg (257.51 KB, 700x525, 4:3, 342345.jpg)

>>12658246

>cost of living is $125 millions per month per capita

>this is only living without proper workplace/education/birthplace/child grow place

>this is only thing you need to know about space economy

>and cucks think $ 1000/month jew rent is outrageous high

>lul


2e8942  No.12658309

Lol, space economy is just a ploy to extend the life of our shit economic system a few decades.

Almost all tech is shit and I would rather live 50 years with '30 tech in a proper society than 100 years in some space fairing jewed society.

Do you know what the easiest way to pay of the national debt is? Getting rid of jewish finance.


ba3635  No.12658325

>>12658246

>Overnight, asteroid mining becomes an incredibly profitable industry.

Does it? Exactly how close are asteroids to earth? Do you capture the asteroid and bring it back to earth for processing? Or do you employ some kind of orbital crushing/smelting/refining apparatus?


ba3635  No.12658334

>>12658255

Asteroids are apparently rich in platinum group metals, especially.


bc37e7  No.12658381

>>12658309

Nice arbitrary time period you choose.

We're better off living in colonial era


90f955  No.12658411

File: 9bf679aedbe24b2⋯.pdf (508.83 KB, nakamura2011.pdf)

File: 0195f854e807854⋯.jpg (45.48 KB, 608x860, 152:215, 654645.jpg)

>>12658334

>Asteroids are apparently rich in platinum group metals, especially.


cfc29e  No.12658421

>>12658246

>Developing the space economy is the only political topic that matters

No. Race is the only political topic that matters.

Every single political issue being discussed is directly tied to race.

Saging simply because of your title.


a8322f  No.12658835

Fuck off jew.


d8515d  No.12658927

>>12658411 (checked)

Just what I thought same ass shit as you could find in miracle dead sea mud.

You answered this question for me anon.

>WTF minerals are supposedly on an asteroid that are so priceless?

NOW

>Can someone please post me a drawing of a space elevator so I can laugh?


7d6a37  No.12658937

>>12658835

>jews want whites to reclaim the world and expand into space

Cry harder.

>>12658421

>No.

You're wrong.

>Race is the only political topic that matters.

And the white race will die out if we don't mine asteroids for phosphorus.


8d77f0  No.12658951

>>12658246

>Why aren't we doing this?

Because we're surrounded by subhuman shitskins hellbent on consuming and destroying all they behold. Give me an Ethnoglobe and you'll have your space elevators. It's really that simple. You just need to DECIDE to do what it takes to make your memes into dreams. Make that decision and I'll take care of the details, but you have to really mean it.


3d7e5e  No.12658965

It’s all a facade. Lights in the sky. You’re stuck here. NASA fakes everything


843bc9  No.12658996

SPACE FORCE


2e577d  No.12659000

It would already exist and already suck by now if space were real


cfc29e  No.12659113

>>12658937

You're an idiot.

Race is THE political issue of the modern world.

Phosphorus irrelevant. The fact that you bring it up as a reason to pay attention to your side show is laughable.

No one cares. Everyone with an IQ above 80 is focused on the central political issue of the modern world; race.

Sage because you're so out of touch with reality.


7eddf8  No.12662454

File: 7bb9be9c6ae4b2a⋯.jpg (92.99 KB, 701x720, 701:720, Victorian-Risk-Assessment.jpg)


7eddf8  No.12662476

File: 03fdb53a0679bf9⋯.jpg (256.71 KB, 1024x684, 256:171, gettyimages-166715674-1024….jpg)

>>12658965

MFW Jew shills jelly they can't into space.


7d6a37  No.12662482

>>12659113

Not an argument. If you were literate, you'd know what I said.


e0b1ba  No.12662573

>>12658421

>>12658309

>>12659113

Race is the issue, on one hand we have a bunch of mongrels and asiatics, they have no dreams, they life in the past. they want to return to a simpler time, on the other hand we have the aryans and visionaries, he wants to expand, tame nature, become something more.

You people choose the first and abandon the second.


2149b0  No.12662643

>>12658252

Good point. These people are inherently anti-progress, so why wouldn't they try to keep the rest of us down?

>>12658325

The most feasible way, as far as I know, is bringing it into close orbit and then processing it up there. Problem is, a single asteroid could easily crash the market for metals for thousands of years.


7eddf8  No.12662673

File: e7e81183512415f⋯.jpg (33.73 KB, 461x352, 461:352, thuglife.jpg)

File: 724723e56d70f7c⋯.jpg (49.85 KB, 850x400, 17:8, evola_duty.jpg)

>>12662573

Very Spenglerian of you. Of course an understanding of history, even a preliminary one, is important to give context into which we are born and the reality we face. A reverence and respect for the past, with a correct understanding, can give us the energy needed to face the future.

One of the reasons our future looks so bleak is that we have no past. The average person has no knowledge whatsoever of the proud achievements of their ancestors. On the other hand, many of those who ARE aware rest on those laurels, believing that those days are behind us. The first is confused and has no sense of direction, is little more than an easily manipulated sub-human, the latter sees our terrible direction and retreats into a fantasy past.


35f942  No.12662688

Until we rid the jews and unfuck the situation here the last thing I would ever want to see is a space economy. Limitless resources = zero possibility for revolution, forever. Need to bring about the right cultural, social, and economic movement to take on that long-term project. This one we're in must fall at any cost. Until a fascist takeover that rids our nations of the parasites, mongrels, and weak blooded traitors happens I hope that every space economy project gets nuked by UFO's.


9dfdec  No.12662694

>>12658246

>Developing the space economy is the only political topic that matters

no its not. plenty of other issues are more important than space.


b93190  No.12662754

File: 5a76bd255124290⋯.png (89.39 KB, 1060x1060, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>12658246

The only economy we should be worrying about is the trash economy.

We've looked at the data.


52b416  No.12662854

>>12658246

>Why aren't we doing this?

It's on the itinerary right after agenda 21 is finished. One thing at a time op, slow ur roll.


107b90  No.12662881

>focus on the vast and endless space instead of a parasitic cancer that eats away everything that's valuable and outright wants to stump you, make you docile and stupid

Fuck off, kike. First, we have to dissect the parasite. Then we can progress.


fd95df  No.12662891

>>12658246

>why aren't we doing this?

Short answer: kikes

Long answer: open your eyes - it's the fucking kikes


000000  No.12663163

>>12658951

>Why unjew the economy when you can waste your time killing other goyim?


000000  No.12663191

>>12658255

>>12658927

>There are some unbelievably valuable rocks flying around in our solar system. The website Asterank uses information about asteroid sizes and composition, along with current market prices to calculate the most valuable known asteroids. Some are estimated to be worth more 100 trillion dollars. It’s a number large enough to turn any potential investor’s head.

https://techcrunch.com/2015/07/09/the-potential-100-trillion-market-for-space-mining/

>>12658277

Almost all of the cost of living in space is due to high launch costs.

>>12659113

Not an argument.

>>12662573

Things we accomplished with "mongrels and asiatics" on the earth:

Literally everything mankind has ever accomplished.

>>12662643

>Problem is, a single asteroid could easily crash the market for metals for thousands of years.

The demand for many of these things is highly inelastic. And even if it were elastic as you imagine, "crashing the market" for something is another way of describing material abundance. A good thing.


000000  No.12663194

>>12662694

What other issue creates trillions of dollars in new wealth?


000000  No.12663198

>>12662688

>Until we rid the jews and unfuck the situation here the last thing I would ever want to see is…

Good thing other people don't think like you do, or we never would have emerged from the dark ages.


000000  No.12663204

>>12662881

You can prove you're not a kikeshill for big oil by describing your plan to "dissect the parasite."


76e9e3  No.12663206

>I watched an episode of Star Trek the other day and it looks seriously legit

>Trump's Space Marine LARP will happen fo' realzy

>Science fiction FTW!


000000  No.12663218

>>12663206

Not an argument.


76e9e3  No.12663227

File: bbea835cdf613c4⋯.jpg (39.7 KB, 580x319, 20:11, GusGrissomMemorialMasonicF….jpg)

File: f0bb0767c00c65b⋯.jpg (43.58 KB, 720x634, 360:317, NASAmicrometeorFraud.jpg)

>>12663218

Nothing to argue about


16b855  No.12663231

Is it possible to have a space economy without ending two-thirds of the human species?


17fb51  No.12663237

>>12663231

Yes, just kill all the jews. Then Star Trek Utopia is reality.


16b855  No.12663258

>>12663237

Why do I want a Stark Trek utopia? That's a libshit fantasy. I want people to work for their goddamn rights to vote, not have them as a birthright.


cdc55c  No.12663287

>>12663227

There really isn't any reason to trust a government agency since the end of the Civil War. That doesn't mean all of what they say is incorrect, only that if its being said there probably is an anti-White message somewhere behind it.


000000  No.12663321

>>12663227

Explain to me how GPS works.


000000  No.12663325

>>12663231

Is space full of satellites?

Did we have to genocide anyone to accomplish this?


ce612c  No.12663334

File: 02728f7a580eadc⋯.jpg (38.72 KB, 640x512, 5:4, Desire_to_Know_More.jpg)

>>12663258

I agree and would like to know more.


43a0c3  No.12663372

>>12658246

A reminder of what /pol/ used to be.

I really appreciate the effort, OP, but it's a fool's errand.


76e9e3  No.12663401

>>12663321

Same as it always has since the 1940s


000000  No.12663437

>>12663401

Try again. How does GPS work if there are no satellites?


16b855  No.12663446

>>12663325

Natural or artificial? Space is not full of artificial satellites because we have yet to put them there due to the Jew keeping us from affording to. For a satellite with a biosphere we still need to sacrifice a chunk of Earth's living sphere, (atmopshere, plant, animal, minerals, etc.) to create and sustain that habitat until we discover the means to convert materials from space into more biosphere. Jews do not want abundant resources. They thrive on artificial scarcity. Reason: They own this fucking planet because we goys were retarded enough to fall for their banks which we therefore own nothing ourselves. Jews thrive on creating more poverty. Ending that poverty with resources will throw their usury economy out of wack.

>>12663334

You know the books the movie that meme is based on is what I was thinking. It'd be right wing to people today but Starship Troopers has the right idea. Have those who sacrifice through service for the sake of the planet be the ones who vote in policy of the planet as a whole rather than give everyone the right to vote. We just have to set a few rules to make sure those unqualified fail training to be able to perform their service as citizens. An obese room temperature IQ autistic nigger is never going to pass balls to the wall hack your legs off Roman style military training which is required for all service sectors.


15b87b  No.12663461

>"muh space elvator"

This is a copy pasta slide thread.

Remember anons;

Report D&C threads.

Sage D&C threads.

Filter D&C threads.

Remember anons;

Report slide threads.

Sage slide threads.

Filter slide threads.

Space elevator has been proven impossible for decades. Just like solar highways. Just like muh global warming.


43a0c3  No.12663473

>>12663461

>Sage D&C threads.

This alone completely discredits anything else you say since you don't even know what a fucking sage does.


000000  No.12663478

>>12663461

>Space elevator has been proven impossible for decades.

What part of the peer-reviewed science journal saying it is possible do you disagree with?


afe593  No.12663544

File: 400d9ac79c20ee9⋯.jpg (114.05 KB, 1200x600, 2:1, council meme 1.jpg)

File: 679d8aa30588596⋯.jpg (50.65 KB, 854x480, 427:240, council concept.jpg)

Inevitebly this will happen there's no denying that, BUT it will not work if we do not fix select problems down here because it will be brought like a virus:

-1. Race and understanding genetics and hazards to colonial breeding is a problem to face. Without proper understanding of eugenics, which can't happen because of point 2, already mentioned by anons.

-2. Political and social issues. People have to understand racial issues and be friendly towards nationalsocialism. Without that, we can't have anything. Without strong social and racial cohesion factions will devide and infighting will destroy everything.

-3. With political understanding comes third position economics. No marxism, no anarcho-capitamemes and other retarded ideas which cause unnecessary hardshifts.

-4. Sorting out our true history and religion on Earth. We can't have religious fanaticism and dogmatic rules and rituals, only clear ethics which are sought after for everyone. Religion should not mean to serve, but to seek what is eternally right. Proving and disproving established historical teachings will narrow out true religions from propagandas and copycats, new age cults. Reaching this state will lower materialistic tendencies and increase well being tenfold, and also enable us to experiment more on the non-material world studies, may even enable us to learn/percieve superhuman abilities.

-5. (I may be wrong here. There may already be finished and working concepts on this) Expanding on third position politics (NatSoc) and coming up with a solution for leading politics and weeding out corruption with 100% efficiency: Meaning wether to elect leaders and how. Elected leaders should be the wisest and if the society is religious, most awakened of all and he can't elect others around himself. It should be like a roundtable/council of the wisest who can't rule over the other and have to come to a conclusion together and the people judge. And I do not mean some kike tier initiation and keeping secrets. (and some sort of parliament if its of any use here) I have no idea about this one. I am talking in a utopistic view but considering that it still cannot be perfect and big mistakes can be made.

6. ???? More suggestions needed.


8b6b02  No.12663582

reminder to report and filter all flat earth shills on sight. do not reply to them, ever.


f74fce  No.12663597

>>12662673

Must suck living thug life.


f74fce  No.12663601

>>12663544

>why not get out of your car, and holding a conversation?


7eddf8  No.12663694

>>12663478

He's one of those retards that thinks science as a whole is some kind of masonic plot against Jesus.


bc37e7  No.12663732

To protect our environment should we move all toxic manufacturing into space?


bc37e7  No.12663741

>>12663694

A space elevator is a meme because it would be decades before we even reach the material science that would be required.

We could build a space loop with today's current material science within a decade at most if we were to start tomorrow.

What SpaceX is doing is substantially better than letting ULA jew the taxpayers with their 40 year old technology.


90f955  No.12663761

>>12663191

>https://techcrunch.com/2015/07/09/the-potential-100-trillion-market-for-space-mining/

>pure speculations vs actual asteroid samples

Come back when they bring platinum samples from asteroid (aka never)

(BTW mining of asteroid samples costs like 60 millions per gram (!) )


b41804  No.12663793

>>12658421

Why reach out to other planets when this one is the best there is for us and would be almost perfect if we did neutron bomb atmospheric blasts over population areas in Africa, India, China and Israel? Then just police the hell out of our own vermin and then you're living in a wonderful world of 500,000


93955a  No.12663816

The Rotovator is smaller, simpler, and less likely to be destroyed by catastrophic failure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum_exchange_tether

Because it dips into the atmosphere, it requires periodic boosts. These can be provided by asteroid material that we will be mining anyway.

Of course, any serious space exploration won't be allowed to happen as long as THEY rule Earth. THEY are afraid of people going off the reservation. There would be a limit to their depravity on Earth. If the whole planet was a giant favela ruled by satan-worshipping pedos, I would consider an asteroid strike to be a mercy killing.


6b9953  No.12663838

>>12663793

Why be Earth-bound when we could make autonomous and self-sufficient artificial habitats with ideal controlled environments to live in, in space, maintained automatically by a robotic workforce? I've seen estimates that if we use up the materials of the asteroid belts by processing it into making artificial colonies, we could have a total population of 1 trillion in our solar system.


4e5cd8  No.12663882

File: d1aefb730a88c0b⋯.jpeg (160.25 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, nasa.jpeg)

NASANIGGERS

Where are the 10 trillion dollars stole from the American people? What did you do with the money? We know that you didn't spend it on your esoteric hoaxes. Where is our money? Where is our money? Where is it?


90f955  No.12663922

>>12663838

>we could make autonomous and self-sufficient artificial habitats with ideal controlled environments to live in

Try to build one in your backyard. Pro tip: you can't/


16b855  No.12663942

>>12663732

Either in space or on Earth we need too learn to recycle toxic waste into resources because we may never know when we will get more. Especially in space.

90f955 is a Jew trying to keep the goyim earthbound with his usury inflation numbers.


90f955  No.12663951

>>12663942

>talks about jews

>wants to pay $7 millions per day rent


6b9953  No.12663969

>>12663922

>Try to build one in your backyard. Pro tip: you can't/

Uhhh we're growing bananas right now in Antarctica the only thing we need is robots and automation.


90f955  No.12663972

>>12663969

Even better go Antarctica and try build "self sustained base" here so we will never see your posts ever again.


6b9953  No.12663979

>>12663972

Wow you are very mad why do you want us Earth-bound so fucking bad?

I don't care if it's a bunch of niggers or chinks or jews or dare I say it, *gasp*, whites that escape the Earth first; we need to make sure that the continuation of human life is not 100% dependent upon the survival of the Earth.


90f955  No.12663986

>>12663979

>thinking fairy tails are real


38bc74  No.12663992

>It is already possible to build a space elevator.

its already possible to kill everyone outside of europe and america… but we dont do it

you know why, you dont, because you are a retard.

Nothing will get done in this thread, enjoy your discussion


4e5cd8  No.12664001

File: 2599c760ac409d3⋯.png (281 KB, 580x428, 145:107, NASA.png)

>>12663992

What an unsophisticated NASAnigger opinion


cfc29e  No.12664044

File: 7afc3fb758d864c⋯.jpg (42.16 KB, 464x508, 116:127, Abolish White race.jpg)

File: c2dfb854a0694c9⋯.jpg (126.82 KB, 726x748, 33:34, Don't have children if you….jpg)

File: e821eac7349bf50⋯.jpg (209.53 KB, 1032x1200, 43:50, e267292d13cb0cfb6fb10703d2….jpg)

>>12663191

>>12662482

I already made my argument and it is correct.

Race is the single political issue of any importance of the 21st century

>>12662573

>putting words into my mouth.

I never said that we should not reach for the stars. I said that race is the single political issue of any importance of the 21st century. And this is true.

Jews do not spend billions of dollars every year trying to convince us not to go to space. They do not spend billions of dollars every year trying to convince us to do away with wood heating or adopt new fishing practices.

They spend billions, if not TRILLIONS of dollars every year to accomplish one task and that is the extermination of our RACE.

Race is the single defining political issue of the 21st century

Everything else, literally every other topic is secondary to this one defining political debate;

Should White people be allowed to exist

Sage because you niggers don't get that you're in a race war. Not a space war.


6b9953  No.12664056

>>12663986

You think we can't expand into space or that space doesn't exist or whatever?

Btw fuck the economic arguments and what particular plan we pursue. There is one reason that trumps absolutely everything else; we need to expand and survive. If it required enslaving all the STEM people for a decade and only giving them food and public housing while they work on building the most glorious space empire ever it's worth it.


6b9953  No.12664057

>>12664044

>that thousand yard stare


6ebf26  No.12664068

Interesting to see they're spamming the classic space-elevator-anon thread in the same way they've sunk several other follow-ups to threads with great discussion (butterfly war anyone?).

We have to get off this rock. Space is an infinite frontier and the exploration and conquer of a frontier is the only way we can reinstate the existential struggle that forges our people into something greater than base humanity. Infinite frontier leads to infinite struggle and that environment is what will eventually create the prophecied OverMan.


4e5cd8  No.12664080

File: 7316e981759c550⋯.jpg (92.47 KB, 685x960, 137:192, 03df608ff2b0e690aaca963e03….jpg)

>>12664056

>Let's enslave everyone

Finally the NASAniggers unveil themselves. You still owe us the 10 trillion dollars you stole from us. We want them back.


7eddf8  No.12664716

>>12663741

It feels like with the money you spend on a space elevator you could just create a manufacturing system in space anyways. Another incredibly ambitious project but better long-term pay-off.


3d9c63  No.12664888

>>12658246

>Why aren't we doing this?

We arent allowed.

Consider the vastness of space.


6bddea  No.12664929

>>12663979

> I don't care if it's a bunch of niggers or chinks or jews or dare I say it, *gasp*, whites that escape the Earth first; we need to make sure that the continuation of human life is not 100% dependent upon the survival of the Earth.

>humans


35f942  No.12664957

>>12663198

We didn't emerge from the Dark Ages until after we kicked the fucking muslims out of Spain and most of Europe you twat. It's even debatable whether the Dark Ages ever existed outside of the muslim world locking down normal trade before and after.


5ae807  No.12664996

>>12664080

>still posting the photoshop job


ff7f70  No.12665000

>>12658246

It's a much harder problem to solve than you think. Largely due to the fact that you're building the world's largest lightning rod. You may be thinking that 'there's no lightning in orbit'.

No, there is. The bowshock of the electromagnetic field of our planet interacting with the sun usually defuses it but now you've put a giant conductive ring up there and created a target for the ionized particles. that thing is going to be craaaaaazy hot before too long.

We'd be better off using a magnetic mass drivers coupled with hybrid SCRAM jets. You just have to get the launch going fast enough to spin up the SCRAM engines and that'll carry you up to 10km where you can do a small liquid engine burn to get your ass on out.

Gotta launch it from someplace way, way high altitude, though, or it'll drip the wings off before the SCRAM can spin up (or take a shitload of fuel).


7e8706  No.12665056

>>12663446

>You know the books the movie that meme is based on is what I was thinking. It'd be right wing to people today but Starship Troopers has the right idea. Have those who sacrifice through service for the sake of the planet be the ones who vote in policy of the planet as a whole rather than give everyone the right to vote. We just have to set a few rules to make sure those unqualified fail training to be able to perform their service as citizens. An obese room temperature IQ autistic nigger is never going to pass balls to the wall hack your legs off Roman style military training which is required for all service sectors.

that exists on earth now, its a small country tho


000000  No.12665150

OP is fake and space is gay.


b0aa8c  No.12665187

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"Outer space" doesn't exist. Nerds have to grow up and face the reality that it's impossible to leave Earth. Don't fall for escapist fantasies produced by the likes of (((Asimov))).


ab5ea4  No.12665276

>>12665187

A few pictures of balloons disprove space travel!

> What is gps

> what is a satellite phone

> what Is the international space station you can see with a telescope

> what is gravity

I think you may be retarded


90f955  No.12665285

>>12664056

>You think we can't expand into space or that space doesn't exist or whatever?

You surely can't.

Here 1% challenge of space survival for you. Stop breathing Earth air. Pro tip: you can't.

>muh self sustaining settlements


b0aa8c  No.12666019

File: 4001e29ceebb396⋯.gif (1.46 MB, 200x333, 200:333, c1028331a924128c498b90845f….gif)

>>12665276

>What is gps

Indeed… what is it?

>what is a satellite phone

What about them?

>what Is the international space station you can see with a telescope

>he thinks seeing some lights in the sky proves the existence of a "space station"

>what is gravity

What about it?

Can you make even one consistent argument or are you only able to spout buzz words picked up from space negro et al.?

>I think you may be retarded

Says the space nutter… the irony is palpable. Look, you can believe whatever you want, but if you want to be taken seriously, you have to provide hard, specific evidence for your claims, always keeping in mind the dictum that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


fcf35c  No.12666044

File: 0775d89d09589c6⋯.png (112.44 KB, 500x403, 500:403, Flat_Earth_TV_said_so.png)

>>12658246

>space economy

>believes space can be traveled through.

>Believes the Earth is a globe


43db52  No.12666062

>>12666044

>>12666019

Have you ever met a flat-earther mathematician? Chemist? Physicist? Electrician?

Show me an employed engineer that believes the earth is flat.


b0aa8c  No.12666115

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>>12666062

First, anyone unironically using the term "flat-earther" is either a shill or a shabbes. Call it what it is - classical cosmology.

Second, I don't care for your harebrained question - we're talking about the actual, physical shape of Earth as such, not the private unexamined cosmological convictions of this or that individual person.

If you believe the Earth to be a spherical rock circling a burning ball of gas within a for all intents and purposes infinite vacuum, you need to provide extraordinary evidence for that extraordinary claim. Until then I hold to classical cosmology and to what my personal experience tells me.


6b97c7  No.12666121

two words: space mining

its great fucking opportunity


8e9414  No.12666124

File: 26babcad5c4e7c3⋯.jpg (59.65 KB, 1312x1119, 1312:1119, saphire.jpg)

>>12658246

According to the electric universe, the elevator would regularly get zapped on a daily basis.

>Project Saphire, the electric universe


17fb51  No.12666132

>>12666044

You will be hanged for your anti-NSDAP demoralization perfidy


b0aa8c  No.12666144

File: 279f473d6923608⋯.jpg (54.55 KB, 595x803, 595:803, The Art of Greenscreen.jpg)

>>12666132

Go suck a dick at your lodge, nasha faggot.


17fb51  No.12666206

>>12666144

Nice dubs, Mr. JIDF. How's your Jaffa assignment treating you? Can't be too good if you're stuck pushing Flat Earth nigger garbage on a Mongolian flower-picking meadow, especially when everyone knows the jewish bible you pretend to thump was wrong about earth's shape, even the ancient Greeks over 2,200 years ago.

Anywho, I'll have my contact cater some bagels and coffee to your office.


b0aa8c  No.12666274

File: e7c2bcb246a2960⋯.png (49.5 KB, 528x623, 528:623, Millersville-Erastothenes2….png)

>>12666206

You're obviously a shill, but for the sake of undecided lurkers:

>even the ancient Greeks over 2,200 years ago

It's not enough to simply imply or mention the name of Eratosthenes; you need to actually read and understand his argument, and especially what he took for premises. Hint: he explicitly and expressedly assumed a large and far away sun… his math works out exactly the same if you assume a small and near sun instead.

Now fuck off to your lodge.


17fb51  No.12666286

>>12666274

The difference being that predictions based on the current understanding actually pan out. You let me know when your spaceship hits your supposed firmament, nig. Until you got good, testable and repeatable evidence to prove your Flat Earth nonsense, there's nothing to discuss except passages from your jewish bible and some bullshit about (((YHWH))).


b0aa8c  No.12666311

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>>12666286

>The difference being that predictions based on the current understanding actually pan out.

All practical/technological endeavours - flight, maritime navigation, artillery, wireless comunications etc. - rely and work based on classical cosmology and/or Newtonian physics. All of them, without one single exception.

>You let me know when your spaceship hits your supposed firmament, nig.

If you really, unironically believe in the existence of "space ships", I must apologize for taking you for a nasha shill. In that case you're just another dumb shabbes. Go watch Star Trek or whatever you types like to watch on the idiot tube.

>Until you got good, testable and repeatable evidence to prove your Flat Earth nonsense

You can't even prove the existence of "outer space" for fuck's sake, and yet you have the nerve to call classical cosmology nonsense? Fucking Dunning-Kruger nigger.

>there's nothing to discuss except passages from your jewish bible and some bullshit about (((YHWH))).

I don't care about the Bible, I'm talking strict science.


17fb51  No.12666332

>>12666274

And by the by, Hershel, your pic debunks your Near-Sun assertion

"Using the values 50 degrees and 60 degrees as measured by the trip, with b=1000 miles, we find that h is approximately 2000 miles. This relatively close sun would have been quite plausible to the ancients.

Continuing the calculation, we find that a is approximately 2400 miles and the two distances R1 and R2 are approximately 3000 and 3900 miles, respectively.

That is, as we move from Florida to Pennsylvania, our distance from the sun increases by about 30%. As a consequence the apparent size of the sun should decrease by 30%. We see no noticeable change in the apparent size of the sun as we make the trip. We conclude that the flat earth/near sun model does not work"


7d6a37  No.12666342

>>12666274

Reported for paid jewish shilling.

* Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them, if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?

* Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?

* Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?

* Come to think of it, was Eratostenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?

* And don’t surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe? Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all such ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries, and if so why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?

* Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?

* Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?

* Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?

* Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?

* Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?

* If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”

* If photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?

* A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?

* Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?

* Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?

* The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What possible financial motive did they have?

* What financial motives could NASA have?

* How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.

* Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?

* Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?

* Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?

* If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?

* If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?

* Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?

* How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?

* Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?


ca849e  No.12666354

>>12666342

I can ask question too

*how do GPS's work?

*why do you see the top of a ship first at the horizon?


17fb51  No.12666360

>>12666311

>Newtonian physics

Have nothing to do with your flat earth niggardry.

>he thinks it isn't possible to launch projectiles with rocket propulsion

I'm not asking you to build a space shuttle, nig. Just strap a camera to a high school rocket and show us the footage of it smashing into your supposed firmament.

>can't prove existence of outer space

Not my job. It would be much more easy to prove that the Earth has a jewish solid dome covering it than it would be to escape gravity's pull, so you go ahead and do that camera rocket thing first and we'll go from there.

>Nasha

Not once did I use NASA's doctored images to prove anything. It is a little convenient that NASA puts out easily-debunked fakes so you can hoot and holler about biblical flat earth nonsense, though.


bf0346  No.12667119

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>>12658246

United States Geologic Survey Conducts Analysis of Near-Earth Asteroids/Objects

https://minerals.usgs.gov/science/astra/index.html

https://pubs.er.usgs.gov/publication/ofr20171041

<Why Asteroid Mineral Resources Matter

>The long-term goal of the United States space program is establishing a human presence on Mars. This goal has been remarkably stable for decades, unfazed by changes in administration, geopolitical situations, economic conditions, and trends in public opinion. One can debate the merit of this goal, but it is a remarkably consistent aspect of our Nation’s space policy.

>Several major challenges must be overcome before there are human bootprints on Mars. The most problematic obstacle may be the price tag—a large fraction of which is in hauling material out of Earth’s gravity well. Obtaining key resources (for example, water and metals) in the space between Earth and Mars could dramatically reduce the costs of a trip to Mars. The obvious way to obtain such resources is to mine near-Earth objects (NEOs). Such mining may be essential to sustaining a human presence beyond Earth’s orbit.

What they found

<Minimum amount of water and metallic iron resources in near-Earth objects

90% chance there's about 11,000 Gigatons (12,125,424,420,168.4 tons) of Water and 61,000 (67,240,989,966,388.4 tons) Gigatons of metallic Iron floating above us

50% chance there's about 18,000 Gigatons (19,841,603,596,639.2 tons) of Water and 99,000 Gigatons (109,128,819,781,516 tons) of metallic Iron up there

10% chance there's about 38,000 Gigatons (41,887,829,815,127.2 tons) of Water and 200,000 Gigatons (220,462,262,184,880 tons) of metallic Iron within our reach

That's not even counting the Billions if not trillions of tons of metallic Gold, Titanium, Palladium, Iridium, etc that is also held within these NEOs

>It is clear that the amount of useful resources in NEOs is immense when compared to current needs. For example, the International Space Station has a mass of less than 400 tons and the crew of 6 uses about 5 tons of water per year. The numbers in table 4 could sustain a million-fold increase in human activity in space for a million years. Even if the numbers are too large by a factor of a thousand, or even a million, there appears to be a significant amount of useful resources in NEOs.


36a532  No.12667128

>>12658246

I don't care about space unless we can effectively combat the issues on Earth first.

Jews in space cannot be permitted.


7eddf8  No.12667271

>>12666115

>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

>provides no evidence for something that is an even more outlandish and absurd claim


91476a  No.12667340

>>12658252

>I say that as someone particularly enthusiastic

There can never be enough bullets for their kind. You can tell if a commie kike is lying if their lips are moving. I have no idea why the fuck you would read Leddit though, anon. Get your life together.

>>12658246

We all know (((why))), anon. Kikes have ground Aryan progress to a halt once again.

>>12658277

>I'm a nigger and waste dubs

Okay.

>>12658325

It doesn't matter how "close" they are.

>>12658965

<Being a Nigger 101: the Post

>>12662694

Actually, nothing will be as relevant as expansion once we get out there. Kikes need to be gassed first though.

>>12663741

That's totally irrelevant to the thread.


b0aa8c  No.12667413

File: ed4c5c3f96abf27⋯.jpg (109.57 KB, 552x777, 184:259, ed4c5c3f96abf2753a0876ddf7….jpg)

>>12666332

Don't play dumb, the precise calculations obviously depend on exactly how large and how far the sun is in actuality - which nobody here knows with any certainty. I posted the image to emphasize the fact that Eratosthenes did NOT, as is commonly claimed by plebs like yourself, "prove" the sphericity of Earth in any sense.

>>12666342

Every.single.fucking.point. has been answered or debunked a thousand times over, yet you always come back and pretend nothing happened. It's all so tiresome™.

>>12666354

>*how do GPS's work?

By HAP/HAB satellites and cell tower triangulation. That's why GPS signals are notoriously unreliable in remote and sparsely infrastructured regions, which should not happen if we were talking about ''space" satellites.

>*why do you see the top of a ship first at the horizon?

Because close to the vanishing line (i.e. the line formed by all vanishing points) an object is by definition small enough to get partially occluded by even smallish waves. Counter-question: why is it possible to visually bring back a ship already "under the horizon" with a good telescope or camera zoom?

>>12666360

>Have nothing to do with your flat earth niggardry.

Spaceheads need Newtonian gravity for their model to work. That's the very point.

>Just strap a camera to a high school rocket and show us the footage of it smashing into your supposed firmament.

Oh yeah, let's build an expensive and complex piece of technology ("high school rocket", lel) expressly forbidden in many jurisdictions in my backyard just to prove some retard on the internet wrong! Get a good laser and conduct your own Bedford Level style experiments and look for yourself. Get a P900 and do the above-mentioned observation at sea. THIS is how real achievable science can be done by anyone.

>Not my job.

You claim the existence of an infinite vacuum "out there" - you provide the evidence.

>Not once did I use NASA's doctored images to prove anything.

At least you admit to the fact that nasha output is notoriously unreliable.

>It is a little convenient that NASA puts out easily-debunked fakes so you can hoot and holler about biblical flat earth nonsense, though.

I don't care about the Bible.This is strictly about science and engineering.

>>12667271

>an even more outlandish and absurd claim

You believe the Earth to be a rock circling a burning ball of gas within an infinite vacuum, said ball of gas being part of an almost limitless number of other burning balls of gas i.e. the kabbalistic "infinite points of light", all of them circling a by definition unobservable "black hole" fucking masonfags I swear, all of this having come into existence by a causeless "big bang" lel 14 billion years ago another highly significant kabbalistic numerical concept - and you, YOU have the nerves to call classical cosmology absurd?

Get a fucking grip, man.


7d6a37  No.12667417

>>12667413

Reported.


46adf8  No.12667587

>>12662573

lmao shut the fuck up its white ethno nationalists that want to return to 'simpler' times ala varg etc have your cosy little enclave in the middle of nowhere talking about 'dem niggers'

india, china and russia's space agencies are all progressing rapidly


7eddf8  No.12667593

>>12667413

All those words and still no evidence for classical cosmology.


7eddf8  No.12667595

>>12667587

All ethnonationalists are Varg.


17fb51  No.12667799

>>12667413

I think Boy Scouts make rockets that can make it to orbit. You have no excuse not to build one of those LEO rockets and strap a camera to it to get footage of it smashing into your supposed firmament.


afe593  No.12668032

>>12663601

>I'm in me mums car vroom vroom, get out of me mums car before starting a conversation

What the fuck are you even saying?


16b855  No.12668321

>>12665000

Fucking FINALLY a legitimate response. People think they can build space elevators when they forget that earth's atmosphere protects itself from solar winds and ionized radiation. If we do build a space elevator then how can we make sure it doesn't conduct ionized radiation to the surface? If we can't then is there any alternative means of easy launching off of Earth besides rockets?

If we do have a space economy it is going to have to be a separate sovereign state from the rest of the world government. The lack of a proper earth to orbit exchange of goods also means this state may as well not exist to the rest of the world. Or that the earthbound warlords will see orbital colonies as a threat once they declare independence and will nuke them the moment they build an earth-ending rail gun.

fuck your reddit spacing tho

>>12665056

For some reason I think of the Northwest Front but I haven't kept up with that. Do you know what country it is?

>>12666121

Great opportunity with a heavy pay off. Not without high risk of losing billions if not trillions of dollars in resources to start out. No, the actual material cost isn't that much if we have a solid economic system not reliant on fiat currency scams. That said there's still the problem with transporting materials back to earth because money or no, investors who gave you resources to build your space mining company want their profits, whether in material or money, from your venue, or else you get the nuclear warhead.


ca849e  No.12668345

>>12667413

>By HAP/HAB satellites and cell tower triangulation. That's why GPS signals are notoriously unreliable in remote and sparsely infrastructured regions, which should not happen if we were talking about ''space" satellites.

so if you are in the middle of the arctic GPS shouldn't work at all?

>Because close to the vanishing line (i.e. the line formed by all vanishing points) an object is by definition small enough to get partially occluded by even smallish waves. Counter-question: why is it possible to visually bring back a ship already "under the horizon" with a good telescope or camera zoom?

except waves don't break that far out, there would be no crest to obscure the ship. And if your asking how ships get back to land, winds for pre-engine ship and engine+GPS for modern ones


a54a35  No.12668448

>>12658246

Why exactly do we need to develop the space economy? Does it help kill off all the brown people or something to bring us the worldwide Ethno State?


af9128  No.12668869

>>12667413

You really believe the Earth is flat? How do you not instantly reinvent the theodolite to test your theory? You go on top of a mountain with a good view of the horizon, use the sun as a backdrop, then you know vertical and the angle to the horizon. By that point you should be convinced of the curvature and computing the approximate curvature with your measurements. You can do all sorts of shit, but this way only takes a single measurement and you're certain.


90f955  No.12669433

>>12667119

Now count amount of water and iron in teh Earth.

B T F O

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F

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c84e21  No.12669546

>>12668345

not him, but when was the last time you were checking your gps in the arctic?


c6c607  No.12669567

>>12668448

To conquer the space for the white volks.


5b7667  No.12669699

> Developing the space economy is the only political topic that matters

No it isn't

> The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.

Such a structure requires a one-world government. So either the jews are going to build if after they kill all the aryans or vice versa.


b0aa8c  No.12670894

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>>12667593

>All those words and still no evidence for classical cosmology.

You don't get it - CC is the default, the null hypothesis, as it not only conforms to what every single man and woman can see with their own eyes, it also conforms to what every single civilization believed before the advent of Copernicanism.

People don't realize how recent a development this is, how hotly contested Copernicanism was up until the beginning of the 20th century (Michelson-Morley) until (((Einstein))) saved the day, nor are they aware of the deeply metaphysical assumptions behind it (Pythagoreanism and Kabbalah).

They are the upstarts, they have to provide evidence, and no, CGIs and blurry pictures and movies produced by military organisations sworn to secrecy simply don't cut it.

>>12667799 (double check)

>I think Boy Scouts make rockets that can make it to orbit.

Source?

>You have no excuse not to build one of those LEO rockets and strap a camera to it to get footage of it smashing into your supposed firmament.

Merely expressing the idea of wanting to build a rocket would get me v& in my country you idiot. I mentioned two types of experiment anyone can do: Bedford-Level style experiments using lasers, and going to the beach with a good cam bringing back ships from "beyond the horizon". There is no excuse for you not doing one or both instead of regurgitating what you picked up in school or in PopSci television.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment

>>12668345

>so if you are in the middle of the arctic GPS shouldn't work at all?

The Arctic? GPS precision and connectivity sharply drops already in rural areas of Eastern Europe, let alone even more remote regions like the Amazonas or Afghanistan.

>except waves don't break that far out, there would be no crest to obscure the ship.

Waves between you and the ship are large enough to partially occlude said ship, no matter where they break within that distance. Even a few centimeters near the shore are sufficient. A large enough lake on a perfectly windstill day would be much better.

>And if your asking how ships get back to land, winds for pre-engine ship and engine+GPS for modern ones

I'm referring to the observation that a ship already gone "behind the horizon" by naked eye can be visually brought back by telescope or a good camera, which should be impossible if there would really be a curved body of water between you and that ship. I recommend the P900 for this, although it can be a bit pricy.

>>12668869

>You really believe the Earth is flat?

You're asking the wrong question. Every entry-level geodesian learns about the relative flatness of Earth, which in some cases is literally flatter than a pancake. This flatness is the least of Copernicanism's problems, so much so that anyone using the team "flat earth" is a priori a shill or a good goy. Comparable to the unironical use of the term "conspiracy theory".

https://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html

>theodolite

You either a) don't know how a theodolite works or b) you expressed yourself in a way I did not understand.

>You can do all sorts of shit

Exactly. There are quite a few observations a dedicated layman can do with relatively simple equipment (lasers, good cameras). If you're lazy you can even do some armchair stuff, for example comparing mutual flight times between different destinations (e.g. Tokyo - LA - Tokyo) in the light of a supposed Coriolis effect.


a7b02b  No.12671073

>>12670894

Classical Cosmology only asserts that the universe is geocentric. Every white and middle eastern civilization believed the world was round, while it was the chinks and niggers who thought it had edges.


bf0346  No.12671275

>>12669433

So according to https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question157.htm and https://sciencenotes.org/much-gallon-water-weigh-easy-calculation/, we have about 13,59,420,000,000,000,000 tons of water on the planet earth, greatly dwarfing the amount of water out in space. But that still does not render the extra material wealth in space useless. Especially with one's ability to obtain water growing harder and harder to do by the day. Even then, in the nature of metals, Titanium and Platinum are very rare to find and difficult to obtain. Having readily available sources of such precious and useful materials would be a great boon to our development


90f955  No.12671324

>>12671275

There are 210000000000000000 tons of platinum on Earth. At $29 millions per to platinum price it makes 6500000000000000 billions dollars (!!!!!wtf man!!). Infinite wealth. Earth mining is future of space exploration.


4d12af  No.12671333

b0aa8c is a DnC shill.

For real, Flatearthers are just a useful psyop

>>>/bog/


92f698  No.12671458

File: 06f4f23c72f1225⋯.jpeg (180.27 KB, 1024x757, 1024:757, 0B892CC8-8B54-4C6E-AD19-4….jpeg)

>>12662673

Or you encounte the third option of choosing to build up a small town community.

>Leave the city

>establish small town company of whatever you can make a profit at

>become a master at what your business is based on

>buy local/sell local

>encourage community economic cohesion

>become a leader for your community

>invest in your community

Imagine tens of thousands of men doing this over the course of the next few years. A huge competitive urge is needed to fill so many gaps left by the rise of the corporate chain businesses that plague our post-modern society. There is little excellence at the local level in many rural areas, and many areas of profit are available if a person is passionate enough.


840ed4  No.12672776

>>12658246

>fucked up the planet so bad you wish to leave

>thinks the space frontier will somehow be better


316f88  No.12673022

Earth is concave you niggers, we live inside.

"Outer space" is the inner space probably.


5a4f55  No.12673031

>an interesting topic on /pol/

What the fuck happened.


6b9953  No.12673978

>>12672776

I hate the thinking of you niggers that think like this. Earth could be a paradise and not threatened at all and we should STILL try to expand beyond it.


ad70bd  No.12674061

>>12658246

You ever read High Level Insider? That guy was a real faggot

I agree that these are things that we could totally be pursuing, as in space exploration in general, haven't looked into the viability of orbital rings and space elevator though.

It seems like you are purposing this mainly as a method to salvage our completely kiked and fucked up economy. That shouldn't bee the main objective. I'll definitely take a look at some of the articles that you posted though.

As far as using satellites for solar power collection being transmitted back to earth via cables by space tether, this may be technically possible, but couldn't we just find a way to do nuclear power safely? I've heard good things about Thorium reactors. A project like this may not fit as well into your plan of salvaging your precious kike economy though….


ad0207  No.12674854

>>12658246

There is so much necessary technology that is still required for us to not only succeed but THRIVE in space and our great quest to see every star in every galaxy. Long live the Human Race and the freedom of the Individual. Lets Terraform Earth the best of our ability then lets push into space…I mean come on, the bottom of the ocean is just as foreign to us as space travel.


7f8769  No.12674877

The only things that matter are race, AI, and genetic engineering.


b0aa8c  No.12675072

File: 33e014aa8e5a288⋯.png (1.07 MB, 994x544, 497:272, 33e014aa8e5a288a396d114b8a….png)

>>12671073

>Classical Cosmology only asserts that the universe is geocentric.

Disagree. The main difference is that Copernicanist cosmology posits the existence of a traversable vacuum "out there" (= "outer space"), while classical cosmology doesn't. Geocentrism, heliocentrism and Einsteinian acentrism are merely subtypes of Copernicanism.

>Every white and middle eastern civilization believed the world was round

Complete bullshit, if not an outright lie. Also: don't confound roundness with sphericity. Planarists as well as globulists consider the world round, while only globulists believe in Earth's sphericity.

>>12671333 (check)

>b0aa8c is a DnC shill.

You're either a masonfag, a gullible shabbes or simply a dumb nigger. GTFO if you're incapable of rational discussion.

>For real, Flatearthers are just a useful psyop

It's… complicated. It is true that (neo-)classical cosmology can be partially coopted as a means of smear-by-association tactic (as for example with the completely fake "Flat Earth Society"), but this is secondary to the debate about cosmology itself. The keys are discernment, clear terminology (for example the different meanings of the word "horizon" within both models) and adherence to independent empirical verification.

"Think for yourself, question authority"

t. a 20th century MKULTRA researcher and CIA asset


6b9953  No.12678711

>>12674854

> Long live the Human Race and the freedom of the Individual.

NPCS aren't individuals also Long live the White Race.


6b9953  No.12678726

>>12675072

>t. a 20th century MKULTRA researcher and CIA asset

What?


000000  No.12683675

>>12663741

We're not talking about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

We're talking about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_ring

Doesn't need unobtanium because the tethers are only to low earth orbit (~200km), not to geosynchronous (~5000km). Although we do have several materials capable of the very long tether, such as carbon nanotubes, we just haven't built really long cables with them yet.


000000  No.12683681

>>12663761

>BTW mining of asteroid samples costs like 60 millions per gram

That's too high even for rocket-launched asteroid mining, but also irrelevant because non-rocket space launch would reduce the cost by several orders of magnitude.


000000  No.12683694

>>12663793

>implying other races are the problem, not the international judeo-masonic cabal that kills any intelligent African leaders, keeps their IQ even more artificially suppressed with malnutrition and edJewcation

Space economy is how you undo the international Jew. Shows how counterfeit their leadership is.


e68886  No.12683699

File: 0aa5f0a43312f2c⋯.jpg (113.99 KB, 736x1094, 368:547, 0aa5f0a43312f2c48f8dc4db92….jpg)

>>12678726

>What?

Timothy Leary, obviously.


000000  No.12683704

>>12663816

There are many, many ideas that would be better than what we are doing. They have all been technically feasible for decades.

>>12663882

NASA has not spent $10 trillion dollars. Please explain how GPS works if space is fake.


000000  No.12683709

>>12663986

>failing this bad at shilling

>accidentally lets anons know exactly what the international Jew doesn't want them to do


e68886  No.12683715

File: 4eb72c6f768489e⋯.gif (950.66 KB, 245x234, 245:234, 1466125340052.gif)

>>12683704

>NASA has not spent $10 trillion dollars. Please explain how GPS works if space is fake.

See >>12667413:

HAP/HAB satellites and cell tower triangulation. Lazy faggot.


000000  No.12683718

>>12664044

>stop talking about things that harm the international Jew!

>fight against other races, not the judeo-masonic cabal!


000000  No.12683735

>>12683715

You didn't explain anything. You rattled off technical jargon with no meaning. Look up the word "explain." Also, explain how GPS worked before cell phone towers, and still works in areas with no towers.


000000  No.12683748

>>12664716

Developing orbital manufacturing would cost far less if you first built a space elevator, since most of the cost of developing orbital manufacturing is sending materials into orbit.

>>12664929

>don't fight the international Jew, go fight the niggers!

>>12664957

And we did that with bronze weapons, right? Wait, you're telling me we used the most advanced siege equipment available when retaking castles from the Muslims? And we later used gunpowder technology to dominate most of the planet? Maybe being a luddite isn't such a good idea after all.


98d5c5  No.12683749

>>12683715

You were never in space White Man. Nazi science is evil and does not work.


000000  No.12683763

>>12665000

You can put a lightning rod on it.


e68886  No.12683765

>>12683735

>You didn't explain anything. You rattled off technical jargon with no meaning. Look up the word "explain."

"Explaining" in tis context obviously refers to the kind and positioning of the satellites, not to their manner of working as such (EM radiation etc.)

>Also, explain how GPS worked before cell phone towers

Are you retarded? HAP/HAB sats, they were used since the early 50s. The Soviets at one time complained they had whole embassies full of downed US HABs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genetrix

>and still works in areas with no towers.

No HABs/HAPs and CTs = no GPS. Don't even to go to AStan or the Amazon, try Belorussia or Eastern Poland. Connectivity and precision drops off sharply.

>>12683749

>You were never in space White Man.

Correct.

>Nazi science is evil and does not work.

Incorrect. Don't try to be smarter than Wernher von Braun.


000000  No.12683771

>>12665285

>muh air!

Have you been scuba diving? Flown in a plane?


6d429b  No.12683773

>>12666044

Wow, where was that picture taken? Are they on the ISS or the moon?!?


000000  No.12683775

>>12666019

>I can't explain any of the phenomena you just listed. Time for pilpul!


6d429b  No.12683777

>>12666144

>hurr durr, what is a training mission?

You know, they train in water tanks to simulate space.


6d429b  No.12683783

>>12683771

The bubbles are alien artefacts or maybe compression artefacts


000000  No.12683785

>>12666124

You can put a lightning rod on it.

>>12666144

Not an argument.

>>12666206

Top kek.


6d429b  No.12683786

>>12683749

Wrong. We went to the moon in the 60s. I saw it on TV!


000000  No.12683811

>>12666311

>All practical/technological endeavours - flight, maritime navigation, artillery, wireless comunications etc. - rely and work based on classical cosmology and/or Newtonian physics. All of them, without one single exception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

>In that case you're just another dumb shabbes.

Not an argument, and it's shabbos.

>You can't even prove the existence of "outer space" for fuck's sake

Besides all of the times we went there, photographed, took measurements, and then launched thousands of satellites into space.


056f50  No.12683818

>>12662476

autistic traitor that was hired for PR.

We've probably been to space, but he's no hero.


6d429b  No.12683821

>>12683811

Right, right. We totally went to outer space. Look at all the photographs and shit that they showed on TV. I mean if the earth was flat, how would we get to outer space? Checkmate, non-scientists.


e68886  No.12683824

File: 1fbf82f12273aad⋯.jpg (25.15 KB, 500x375, 4:3, Fuck off.jpg)

>>12683775

>>12683777 (check)

>>12683785

>>12683811 (check)

Nasha fag brigade out in force tonight I see. Your gig is up, more and more people are waking up each day. How does it feel having sucked all those dicks for nothing?

In some sense I pity you.

>Besides all of the times we went there, photographed, took measurements, and then launched thousands of satellites into space.

Ask me how it is so easy to spot you.


000000  No.12683826

>>12667413

>Eratosthenes did NOT, as is commonly claimed by plebs like yourself, "prove" the sphericity of Earth in any sense.

Except, he did. And your explanation was subsequently wrecked by pointing out that the size of the sun would change significantly as you traveled across the surface of the earth. It doesn't. You're playing pilpul.


6d429b  No.12683830

>>12683824

How do you explain ballpoint pen?

If we there was no space there would have been no reason to invent the ballpoint pen.


6d429b  No.12683832

>>12683826

Yep, it was all debunked, i saw it on the television.


000000  No.12683835

>>12668448

>don't destroy the (((oil companies)))! go fight some other goyim!


000000  No.12683837

>>12669699

>Such a structure requires a one-world government.

US, Russian, and Chinese governments have the technical and financial ability to do it.


e68886  No.12683838

File: 437fe286144493c⋯.jpg (7.11 KB, 250x183, 250:183, 437fe286144493c64b7df60425….jpg)

>>12683826

READ HIM you ignorant space-nigger sucking faggot, and don't come back until you have read Copernicus and his arguments as well, especially the first one. It's not too long, even a gullible retard like you can finish it and spot the errors.

>>12683830

>If we there was no space there would have been no reason to invent the ballpoint pen.

You better be joking.


000000  No.12683852

>>12674061

>couldn't we just find a way to do nuclear power safely?

Yes. Molten salt reactors are expected to be significantly cheaper than our cheapest options currently available (hydroelectric and natural gas). Solar power from panels in space would be even cheaper, but MSRs would be cheap enough to set off massive economic growth.


000000  No.12683856

>>12674877

>baldly derailing the thread without even trying to make an argument

Whatcha doin' rabbi?


000000  No.12683864

>>12683765

>there's no satellites, but there's satellites


36a532  No.12683865

>>12658246

>please goy, help us get to space before we destroy you!

Nah. Space can and must wait until we have secured our existence. Otherwise, we'll go extinct and go down in history as the fools who helped the jewish pathogen escape our homeworld.


000000  No.12683866

>>12683824

Not an argument. Reported for pilpul.


000000  No.12683873

>>12683838

>waste a bunch of time reading centuries-old documents that don't reflect current understanding

>because they're wrong

>but I can't explain why


000000  No.12683876

>>12683865

STFU larper. You haven't killed a single Jew.


36a532  No.12683878

>>12683876

What does me killing Jews have to do with the fault in prioritizing space as Whites are going extinct?

BTW: As I read this thread, you're really coming off as a fucking retard.


237bd8  No.12683883

sodomite dicotomite sodomite dacotomite,

https://raajme.blogspot.com/


000000  No.12683890

>>12683878

>I think Jewish genocide is the solution to all of our problems, but I haven't killed a single one

Start by killing yourself, larper.


579e50  No.12683893

>>12658246

>TORnigger space shilling


36a532  No.12683894

>>12683890

>I think Jewish genocide is the solution to all of our problem

Where did you get that from? I never said anything about 'Jewish genocide'.

I'll repeat myself:

> Space can and must wait until we have secured our existence. Otherwise, we'll go extinct and go down in history as the fools who helped the jewish pathogen escape our homeworld.

Stop putting words in my mouth and respond to what I actually said, you fucking retard.


000000  No.12683895

>>12683893

>attacking the internet connection rather than the argument


36a532  No.12683899

>attacking the internet connection rather than the argument

Actually he was attacking the platform you're using, which was made by jews and the US gov and doesn't even offer real anonymity.


e68886  No.12683900

File: 0c3846e2bd1c77a⋯.jpg (68.68 KB, 624x480, 13:10, db9cf540f8d0c33a25a93a94f1….jpg)

>>12683864

HAB/HAP satellites ≠ "orbital" satellites

>>12683866 (check

I enjoy your literal butthurt. All your grades and "secrets", all the assfucking… for nothing!

>>12683873

>waste a bunch of time reading centuries-old documents that don't reflect current understanding

All the "current understanding" is merely a rehash of Pythagoreanism and Kabbalah. Would Pythagoras step out of a time machine right now, he would instantly recognize the nasha faggotry he originated. Although to be fair, it was the Russians who started modern "space" bullshit in 1957.


000000  No.12683902

>>12683894

>muh Jewish pathogen

>who said anything about genociding Jews?

Kek.


17fb51  No.12683903

>>12683894

Annihilating the jews out of existence would secure our existence handedly, to be fair.


000000  No.12683912

>>12683899

>Jews created Tor

>therefore we should not develop the space economy

Are you familiar with how logic works?


6d429b  No.12683914

>>12683838

NASA invented the ballpoint pin to write notes upside down, while conducting experiments in space.


36a532  No.12683915

>muh Jewish pathogen

Yes, the jewish people are much like a pathogen.

Do you have an argument in that capacity?

>who said anything about genociding Jews?

Yes, who said anything about genociding jews, besides you?

I repeat myself:

> Space can and must wait until we have secured our existence. Otherwise, we'll go extinct and go down in history as the fools who helped the jewish pathogen escape our homeworld.

<Stop putting words in my mouth and respond to what I actually said, you fucking retard.

>>12683903

Possibly, but by no means required.

Just as an example, Jews could be driven out of the West and back to Israel and this would significant reduce the strain on White societies in the West.

With our existence secured, we could safely pursue expansion into space.

Without such security, its entirely probable we would be driven into extinction before ever getting to travel the stars, while those still around - jews and other non-Whites - would have a route to spread off-world thanks to the Whites who they drove to extinction.

I can't imagine any intelligent species in the cosmos would look kindly upon the extinct Whites for making it possible for niggers and jews to spread throughout the galaxy.


36a532  No.12683917

>Jews created Tor

Yes, they did, along with the US government.

>therefore we should not develop the space economy

They two are not connected, you're attempting to connect them because you're a fucking retard who ran out of arguments a long time ago.

>Are you familiar with how logic works?

Are you?


579e50  No.12683918

>>12683895

I don't give a shit about space and it's the second space thread we already have

>Developing the space economy is the only political topic that matters

>not fighting against the Jews

>not stopping white genocide

>"muh space goys"

another jewish meme with no point really


36a532  No.12683919

>>12683918

To be fair its pretty clear at this point that the Torfag probably isn't the OP, because this one is dumb as shit and has no arguments.


e0c1a9  No.12683920

>>12683852

Here's a question, does the base of the elevator have to come all the way to the ground on the earth side of things? Or can we start with the base suspended in the air while the counterweight or whatever you call it stays in space?


000000  No.12683925

>>12683900

>the satellites aren't quite as high as you think

>even though I have no proof of this

>therefore space is fake and you're a freemason


36a532  No.12683926

I mean, look at this shit.

He's just shitposting now.


e68886  No.12683928

File: b5c543db7a63736⋯.gif (400.44 KB, 480x238, 240:119, 1469832055478-0.gif)

>>12683914

>NASA invented the ballpoint pin to write notes upside down, while conducting experiments in space.

Do your fucking homework before posting such bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballpoint_pen

>The first patent for a ballpoint pen was issued on 30 October 1888 to John J. Loud, who was attempting to make a writing instrument that would be able to write "on rough surfaces-such as wood, coarse wrapping-paper, and other articles" which then-common fountain pens could not.

>László Bíró, a Hungarian newspaper editor frustrated by the amount of time that he wasted filling up fountain pens and cleaning up smudged pages, noticed that inks used in newspaper printing dried quickly, leaving the paper dry and smudge free. He decided to create a pen using the same type of ink.Bíró enlisted the help of his brother György, a chemist, to develop viscous ink formulae for new ballpoint designs.

That's why it's called a "biro" in the UK. Lazy nigger.


36a532  No.12683933

>>12683928

You do understand that a patent for something and actually having made something are not the same thing, yes?


000000  No.12683934

>>12683919

>Time to shit on the chessboard!


36a532  No.12683935

You think this is 'chess'?

Wow, you really are retarded.


000000  No.12683939

>>12683917

>my other IP was pointing out that OP was made on Tor and therefore is false, and you're stupid for pointing out how stupid I was being

Keep going. This is fantastic.


17fb51  No.12683942

>>12683915

I don't know if you've studied history or not, but expelling, exiling and isolating the jews has never worked in the many hundreds of times such things were attempted. Besides that, from a moral perspective, the jewish people are responsible for far too many unforgivable crimes against humanity and against nature. Letting a group of pernicious spirit cookers and baby rapers live isn't a good look.


e68886  No.12683948

File: 846215e42c8a171⋯.gif (1.9 MB, 350x300, 7:6, 1441840366984.gif)

>>12683925

YOU posit the existence of "orbital" satellites in "space" - you provide the fucking evidence. HAB/HAPs, cell towers and undersea cables explain ALL communication and navigation on Earth. All of it. No need at all for your ridiculous "space" bullshit.

>>12683933 (check)

Read the fucking article you dumb nigger. They had Biros in '45 for fuck's sake. Are you getting paid for this?

I hope you do.


000000  No.12683949

>>12683935

>you're retarded because I don't know what the pigeon shitting on a chessboard meme is


36a532  No.12683950

>>12683939

>my other IP was

What other IP?

>pointing out that OP was made on Tor and therefore is false

Nobody said anything about OP being 'false', they merely mocked you for using a jewish-made (with US gov assistance) platform that doesn't even offer real anonymity.

>and you're stupid for pointing out how stupid I was being

You're stupid for trying to connect concepts that are not related because you have no arguments to offer.

Yes, that is true.

I mean, all I did was suggest we need to ensure our existence BEFORE we create a means to escape the planet that our enemies could use to escape in the wake of our extinction, and you lost your fucking mind.

>Keep going. This is fantastic.

I will.

I also reported a bunch of your posts and made a discovery: You can't have more than (i think) 3 "active reports" at this point.

So, we now have mods who are concealed in their actions AND you can only report 3 posts at a time.

Very interesting stuff.

>https://8ch.net/log.php?board=pol


36a532  No.12683953

>>12683942

>I don't know if you've studied history or not, but expelling, exiling and isolating the jews has never worked in the many hundreds of times such things were attempted

Actually, seems to have worked quite well on most occasions.

>Besides that, from a moral perspective, the jewish people are responsible for far too many unforgivable crimes against humanity and against nature. Letting a group of pernicious spirit cookers and baby rapers live isn't a good look.

Well that's your perspective.


36a532  No.12683956

>>12683948

> They had Biros in '45 for fuck's sake.

But that's not what I said.

I said, there's a difference between a patent and a creation, as you cited a date in the 1800's, wherein ball point pens did not exist, even if a patent for such a thing did.

You seem very upset. Calm down.


36a532  No.12683959

>you're retarded because I don't know what the pigeon shitting on a chessboard meme is

You're retarded because you think this is some kind of chess game, yes.

You're basically just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks at this point, you've completely given up any sort of sane or rational discussion and are now just shitposting aggressively.


6d429b  No.12683960

>>12683928

>>12683948

That's not the official turn of events. Yes, the biro existed before, but NASA invented the ballpoint pen, because the pencil shavings almost caused an accident in space. It's an ingenious invention that allowed them to write upside down without gravity.


000000  No.12683962

>>12683948

Blimps floating at 20 miles above the surface could easily be seen with a telescope and photographed. Go ahead and prove us wrong.


36a532  No.12683968

>Blimps floating at 20 miles above the surface could easily be seen with a telescope and photographed.

Do you have any photographs of such a thing? I'm just curious, it sounds like it'd be neat to look at.

>Go ahead and prove us wrong.

Who is 'us'?


000000  No.12683973

>>12683950

>Tor has nothing to do with anything, I brought it up because I have no argument

Glad we settled that.


82a49a  No.12683975

Heliocentric nonsense


000000  No.12683976

>>12683959

Top kek. First day on the job?


36a532  No.12683982

>Tor has nothing to do with anything

It has to do with you.

>I brought it up

I didn't. Another Anon did.

>because I have no argument

My argument is that Tor was made by jews in coordination with the US government and doesn't offer real anonymity.

When I said that, you got extremely upset for some reason which you can't seem to explain.

>Top kek. First day on the job?

No, you and I have been chatting for quite some time now.

I'm not sure why you're so upset by the idea of someone saying "Hey, before we focus on space exploration, we should probably ensure we don't extinct first and thereby just wind up giving our enemies a means to leave the planet".

And who is 'us'? You got a mouse in your pocket?


000000  No.12683985

>>12683968

>Who is 'us'?

The fucking Illuminati, you fucking dimwit. Who do you think? The numerous anons that have jointly facialized the flat earth shills who are desperate for any means to discredit this proposal because it threatens their employers.


36a532  No.12683992

>The fucking Illuminati, you fucking dimwit.

That seems unlikely, you're not smart enough for that.

>Who do you think?

I think you're trying to present yourself as a representative of the board, instead of just one dumb clearly-upset faggot.

>The numerous anons that have jointly facialized the flat earth shills who are desperate for any means to discredit this proposal because it threatens their employers.

It doesn't seem you've actually done that though, it seems like you've just gotten really really REALLY upset without explanation while shilling for NASA being 100% legit. Almost like they're your employers or something. ;)


36a532  No.12684007

Oh yeah, you also denigrated the notion of the jews being a threat to the European people and espousing an extremely pathogenic character, while ignoring concerns that we should secure our existence before trying to run off to space, thereby making it likely our enemies would acquire the technology to escape the planet in the wake of our extinction.

That doesn't seem like a very /pol/ack thing to do, ya know?


401237  No.12684017

>>12668321

Returning materials from space is easy. Think rod from godding your enemy's cities and mining the rubble.

Less aggressively we just need to bring chunks of whatever we are mining into orbit and then parachute it down.

Orbital rings are ultimately the answer, especially if you make one an oval that touches the earth in two places. Then its a matter of basically using sophisticated skytrain to move everything into orbit and back. Which makes the average trip to space a bus ticket.

While we are talking orbital rings the obvious end goal is to connect the moon to a ring system from earth so that one can take public transit to the moon and back. Then it really doesn't matter, getting materials from space is dirt simple and most of your pop will probably live on the rings anyway. Technically you can do this to the whole solar system but I think after linking moons to the host planet the usefulness dies off. Doing whole orbits at that scale is silly and too time consuming, make a dyson swarm, make a ring system connecting earth and the moon, make a shell for the outsides of saturn and jupiter at 9.8ms2, and then just fly between the planets normally (or perhaps a laser highway to cut costs down and push asteroids around the system).


36a532  No.12684022

>>12684017

>make a dyson swarm

What could go wrong?


000000  No.12684036

>>12684007

>Oh yeah, you also denigrated the notion of the jews being a threat to the European people and espousing an extremely pathogenic character, while ignoring concerns that we should secure our existence before trying to run off to space, thereby making it likely our enemies would acquire the technology to escape the planet in the wake of our extinction.

No.

>That doesn't seem like a very /pol/ack thing to do, ya know?

Bandwagon fallacy.


36a532  No.12684043

>No.

But you did. So, yes.

>Bandwagon fallacy.

Is that 'us' saying that or 'you'? I suspect its just you.


000000  No.12684047

>>12683992

>I don't know how jokes work


36a532  No.12684049

>I don't know how jokes work

I know you don't. You don't have to tell us.


000000  No.12684052

>>12684049

>I know you are but what am I

The absolute state of shilling


b3164b  No.12684054

>>12658246

>believing in space

This scene is so dead.


000000  No.12684062

>>12684043

>hurr dur I've never been on a chan before

LEARN HOW TO RESPOND TO SPECIFIC POSTS, YOU FUCKING ISRAELI SHILL!


36a532  No.12684065

>I know you are but what am I

Yeah, that's what you did with the 'bandwagon fallacy' shit right after trying to hop on the bandwagon.

You seem to have calmed down a bit at least, which is good.


6d429b  No.12684067

>>12684017

The elevator must be fastened to the Van AlIen radiation belt to keep it from wobbling around. Get a few orbital rings and tighten them up real good to prevent shit from floating off into outer space.

>>12684054

it's science, mate. Come back when you have at least P.h.D's, like the rest of us.


36a532  No.12684068

>GIVE ME (you)'s

No, I don't think I'll do that.


36a532  No.12684076

>>12684067

>fastened to the Van AlIen radiation belt

How will that transpire? I'm legit curious.


000000  No.12684079

>>12684068

Moshe, no one knows who you're responding to when you do that. This should have been covered in your training.


36a532  No.12684083

>no one knows who you're responding to when you do that.

You seem to be figuring it out alright.

If an emotionally distraught NASA employee can figure it out, I think the average Anon can handle it.

Now please try to calm down.


f19c01  No.12684097

>>12670894

Are there any good online forums where you can talk about shit like this? The one I used to lurk got shut down


16b855  No.12684115

>>12684017

Seems like a waste as the materials will burn through the atmosphere without shield. Also there's the possibilities of enough materials burning off will get into the atmosphere and cause other consequences too.


cfc29e  No.12684123

>>12683718

>implying that you can avoid the race war that is happening right now.

Lurk more post less, newfaggot.


000000  No.12684127

>>12684123

>listen to our judeo-masonic overlords and go fight niggers and spics!


6d429b  No.12684148

>>12684123

Do you even science, bro? There's one race that is more important than any other and that's the space race.


000000  No.12684253

>>12684148

Top kek.


000000  No.12684295

The shilling completely stopped at 5 o'clock.


65f387  No.12684355

>>12659113

>>12662573

Race is one big issue in of modern times…

>>12662688

>>12662881

…And is therefore imperative we deal with (((who))) is holding us all back.

>>12663258

If we would apply the mentality of today in say… 800AD, we'd be essentially be saying the same thing about flight….

>>12663372

I remember these old space elevator threads…

>>12664716

High-risks, high rewards. Like flight. Result: economical benefits across the board.

>>12665000

This HU'WITE ANON has the required IQ to make this a reality, we just need to unjew the fucking planet first.

>>12669699

How about instead of gates and weakass walls as borders why not fucking blastdoors!?

>>12683694

>Jews running the show everywhere

<Last time a good president came to the white house he put a white man on the moon.

Who also said One giant leap for ==mankind== and not for Israel or it's vassal, America. Imagine how ==FUCKING PISSED== they must have been. Neil Armstrong spoke the right words, at the right place, at the right time.

>>12683900

There are two kinds of satellites: Natural (the moon) Or artificial (our shits).

>>12683915

I don't really like the idea of being as low as (((they))) are, but that's what you call a final fucking solution. If the jew do force our hand then i cannot say what would happen next.

I tried my best to enjoy this thread.

t. space-age fucking zealot who literally made an ideology about it, plans to finish it's manifesto, based it on national-socialism's visionary and glorious works, put it in a fucking time capsule and bury for

hopefully future civilizations.

Honestly fuck most of you i haven't quoted i don't wanna talk to you.


36a532  No.12684581

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>people stopped posting at me!

You mean people got tired of arguing with a Torfag baitposting while the mods do nothing?

Yeah, wow, big surprise there.


36a532  No.12684587

>>12684355

> If the jew do force our hand then i cannot say what would happen next.

Its kind of besides the point, really.

I pointed out that prioritizing space while we're still under the yoke of world Jewry is not a viable pursuit, as the enemy would be the one most likely to stand to benefit, while we haven't even secured our existence into the future to be able to make use of this technology.

Then the Torfag whose been trying his hardest to derail the thread at every turn tried to say I was equating that commentary with a need to genocide the Jews, which just doesn't follow.

>I tried my best to enjoy this thread.

Checked for a noble effort Anon.


88eea9  No.12684600

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>>12684581

>got tired of arguing with a Torfag

I put a filter on ID:000000 about 6-7 months ago and my life has been glorious ever since. The one or two decent TOR posts I may be missing out on are worth the sacrifice.


36a532  No.12684610

>>12684600

Checked for relevant digits.

I don't like filtering.

Granted, arguing with idiots is often a waste of time, but someone has to do it, otherwise the idiocy stands unopposed.

Then again, maybe that's just my low-grade autism talking.


cfc29e  No.12684620

>>12684127

>ignore other races

Hey, maybe the jews are okay as well. Maybe they're just a front group for the Illerminadi.

>>12684355

>Race is one big issue in of modern times

It's like a mountain dominating the surrounding hills. EVERY decision that the elites make beyond local administrative decisions is solely focused on the one policy of the internationalist elites; Exterminating White people.

That's it. Every other issue from Space exploration to environmental conservatism is secondary to this one insane goal; Kill White people.


000000  No.12685108

>>12684600

Then you wouldn't have seen the OP, you lying faggot.


16b855  No.12685524

>>12684355

The thing about earning your right to vote instead of being born to have it was a principal established by Starship Troopers author of the books. He wasn't right, but he wasn't far left either. Everyone being given the right to vote just from being born here is how the USA degraded into the shithole that it has become. By controlling the thoughts of the next generation of voters you control politics. And lo and behold we have an entire generation of communist millenial anchor babies fighting the socialist baby boomers with Gen X screwed in the middle with no voice due to being a small generation gap. Immigration was half the problem, but true democracy cannot exist with voting as a birthright any longer. In fact the USA's forefathers never intended the US to be a true democracy, but a republic with a small central government for military protection and necessary regulation while the private citizens grew the rest of the nation themselves. Before every naturalized citizen could vote only property holders, the people who paid taxes to the government directly, could vote.

We need a system where those invested in the security and prosperity of the nation must have made a sacrifice through service to obtain their right to vote. Voting is a duty, not a right. As a duty only those with the aptitude to vote will be allowed to vote as proven by their service record. Of course to enter service you need to pass grueling balls to the wall death or glory boot camp and training. Not all service is military and combat. However everyone who performs their duty in service to Terra must be ready to lay down their arms for their fellow man at any given moment as they will be the last line of defense to the civilians. Not everyone will make it through training. Not everyone will qualify for training as it will require both a physical and mental fitness test. The best we can do is make the technology available to allow those with the will to go through the fitness test. This assumes we have the technology to reverse or control things like paralysis, prosthetics, childhood obesity, etc. There will be open and free community fitness groups created both by civilians and veteran citizens to help those with potential get in shape to pass the fitness test to get into training. However veterans may warn civilians that they may never have the aptitude to pass because if you fail the fitness test once, you cannot try again.


000000  No.12685714

Bamp. Where is space elevator anon?


16b855  No.12685916

>>12685714

I hope flat earth double nigger didn't chase him out. I like that we can get to the nitty gritty of how and why things need to be the way they are anonymously even if it means risking to be proven wrong. But for some reason people hate being proven wrong and they self destruct into shitposting. I try not to do that in these threads. I do get autistic about details sometimes though.


000000  No.12687416

>>12685916

Fucking shills.


000000  No.12687425

>>12684581

NSAfag is profiling.


000000  No.12687429

>>12684295

Kek. It really did.


f6f46a  No.12695623

>>12658246

High Level Insider, Space Elevator Anon, PlusUltra, ClosedSociety404… it's been three years you guy(s) push your ideas, usually around the turn of a new year, I feel. How's the 2024 miracle election coming? In any case, anyone who pushes for good tech and science is in my team as far as I'm concerned.

By the way, if you have any update on HLI's geopolitical assessment, I'm all ears (well, eyes).


84e8a8  No.12696309

>>12665000 (cheKEKed)

>The bowshock of the electromagnetic field of our planet interacting with the sun usually defuses it but now you've put a giant conductive ring up there and created a target for the ionized particles. that thing is going to be craaaaaazy hot before too long.

you forget the possibility of harnessing the induced currents and putting them to some good use

for example as a power source for the superconducting magnets needed for the tether points

or to power the elevators that run up and down the tethers

I haven't found anything in the engineering of an orbital ring that makes it impossible, and according to the studies done so far we have sufficient materials for the task

all we lack is the political will to spend that much and to disrupt so many established apple-carts

metals market is just one small example


16b855  No.12704882

>>12696309

Another possibility is gas mining off of the surface of Venus eventually. Though I'm not sure how practical that would be considering Venus's distance from Earth.


406188  No.12705903

>>12685524

> Starship Troopers author of the books.

Juts reminder that Heinlein was feminist sleeping in false ideas about woman capabilities using false equivalence tricks. Aka he was hardcore jew scheming commie liberal.


31e9b1  No.12706318

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Another issue with offworld mining is the sheer scale required, especially if there's mass production of spaceships offworld as well. For example just think about how someone would get a bunch of ore off one mountain-sized asteroid onto another, chained together using massive multi-mile long tethers and ropeways that tie them into truck routes and railways on the surface of designated refinery asteroids.

It's hard for most people to imagine this, imagine playing tetris with blocks the size of buildings and having to move glaciers so they don't accidentally boil all of your equipment if it's pulled in too close to the atmosphere. To that end imagine an astronaut having to use an underwater RCS unit to navigate through a thick ice/water vapor cloud, being deliberately melted as part of dust control inside a mining site. Or a giant ball of hydrogen ice with pumps sunk into it, connected to different refineries around while also feeding a space "farm"/vat that grows soylet inside a large inflated ball. More exotic things like power beaming or ion/electrostatic forcefield barriers become practical too once stripped of gravity and air.

This gets really out there, our ideas of industry and manufacturing are too constrained by our experience on earth to apply up there.


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>>12683715

>space isn't real

>satellites are real

And how the fuck do they orbit then, dumbass?


9274fc  No.12706989

>>12706981

>atomic pill

more like redditpill


38bc74  No.12706998

>Developing the space economy is the only political topic that matters

and is one of the many politicol topics that /pol will talk about but will do nothing about

but how about that ID …. jew fishing for clues. We are leaving your troll ass. And you can keep Elon.


e8ca4e  No.12707035

>>12695623

Ha, the bastard didn't reply to you…I had a feeling that he might have been HLI too. Not saying I buy everything the guy was selling, but an interesting train of thought…love the philosophy part of it.


9d4574  No.12707042

>>12706318

Yeah, when everything weights 1/100000th the amount it becomes trivial to move mountains.


e8ca4e  No.12707103

>>12687429

Hey Man! I realllllly want to ask you a question.

Do you know anything about TT Brown's ElectroStatic Flame Jet Generator?

Is it possible to convert the the dielectric fluid (such as the exhaust of a turbine engine) directly into electric potential (voltage)? And then use this high voltage to generate thrust within our atmosphere?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3022430A/en

^I'm including the patent.

Please respond to this, I'm very very interested in hearing what you think.


c4058b  No.12707109

>jews still bumping this slide


e8ca4e  No.12707123

>>12687429

So, it would be like a type of hybrid ionocraft (relying on the Biefeld-Brown effect) I suppose is what I'm trying to describe here. With the exhaust of the jet engine being converted directly into a electrical potential between the nose and tail of the aircraft…


e8ca4e  No.12707144

>>12658246

>>12707103

>>12707123

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3022430A/en

Sorry, just really want to get your attention with this one…something I've thought about for awhile. Let me know what you think!


e68886  No.12709404

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>>12683956

Pilpuling faggot.

>>12683960

>That's not the official turn of events. Yes, the biro existed before, but NASA invented the ballpoint pen, because the pencil shavings almost caused an accident in space. It's an ingenious invention that allowed them to write upside down without gravity.

You are literally retarded. I don't give a flying fuck about your supposed "official turn of events" when fucking goypedia describes the invention process of ballpoint pens in great detail. Nasha has nothing - nothing at all - to do with it. Is this some retarded Yank meme?

>>12683962

>Blimps floating at 20 miles above the surface could easily be seen with a telescope and photographed. Go ahead and prove us wrong.

You don't get it, do you? YOU posit the existence of "orbital" satellites out there in "space" - you provide the fucking evidence. Blimps are proven technology actually buildable by everone, contrary to "orbital" rockets. Also fuck off with the 20 miles (lel) you strawmanned out of your well-used masonic ass.

>Go ahead and prove us wrong.

Ask me how it is so easy to spot you masonfags.

>>12684097

>Are there any good online forums where you can talk about shit like this? The one I used to lurk got shut down

Perhaps, but it's more important to get a good grounding first by reading actual books - why not start with Copernicus and following his actual arguments? - and conducting your own experiments. If you're lazy, try a few of the hundreds of stellar observations done with the Nikon P900.

A bit of web reading doesn't hurt, either: https://aplanetruth.info/2015/11/24/satellites-dont-exist/

>>12684355 (check)

>There are two kinds of satellites: Natural (the moon) Or artificial (our shits).

Agree.

>>12683985

>The numerous anons that have jointly facialized the flat earth shills

Wishful thinking. Not one single piece of unequivocal evidence for the existence of "outer space" in this thread - not a single one.

>>12685916

>I hope flat earth double nigger didn't chase him out.

I've read hundreds of Sci-Fi novels as a youngster. But one day you have to grow up and realize that none of it is real. None of it - it's right there in the name, science fiction. This Earth is all we have, that's why escapist fantasies like OP's are so dangerous.

>>12706981

>And how the fuck do they orbit then, dumbass?

They don't, you dumb ape. Read the fucking thread instead of shitting it up with your spacetard idiocy.


e8ca4e  No.12710350

>>12709404

If there is no space outside of our Earth's atmosphere…What are the sun and moon?


755fa6  No.12710368

>>12709404

>Nikon P900

Why is this camera such a meme? Is it actually a good camera for astrophotography or is it just the cheapest one? t. looking for a camera for astrophotography


000000  No.12710376

>>12658246

Only after the genocide of jews.


000000  No.12710914

>>12695623

Trump is listening to them on some things. He's really into the 4d chess and wants to take down a bunch of the swamp dwellers with a giant Nuremberg-style operation. Hasn't announced the space elevator yet, although they've been telling him to do it for some time now. He loves to do things his way.


000000  No.12710958

>>12710376

STFU larper. You haven't killed a single Jew in your entire life.


e8ca4e  No.12711132

>>12710958

>>12707144

>>12707123

>>12707103

Hi, if your still around, and able, could you please answer my question?


000000  No.12713637

>>12707103

Conventional rockets work fine. Best plan is probably using mass drivers or a small launch loop (Birch called it a partial orbital ring system) to launch the parts of the ring. Once you have the orbital ring up, it will be cheaper than anything else we have come up with to date.


d5b436  No.12713683

Liberals would do everything they can to hinder process with science the way they're opposed to Eugenics and the elimination of genetic diseases such as MS from the human race through gene therapy, yet they want to lynch anyone who opposes gene therapy.

Is the real reason why liberals oppose eugenics because of the following?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

>Lysenkoism (Russian: Лысенковщина, tr. Lysenkovshchina) was a political campaign conducted by Trofim Lysenko, his followers and Soviet authorities against genetics and science-based agriculture. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union's Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. Lysenkoism began in the late 1920s and formally ended in 1964.

>The pseudo-scientific ideas of Lysenkoism assumed the heritability of acquired characteristics (Lamarckism).[1] Lysenko's theory rejected Mendelian inheritance and the concept of the "gene"; it departed from Darwinian evolutionary theory by rejecting natural selection.[2] Proponents falsely claimed to have discovered, among many other things, that rye could transform into wheat and wheat into barley, that weeds could spontaneously transmute into food grains, and that "natural cooperation" was observed in nature as opposed to "natural selection".[2] Lysenkoism promised extraordinary advances in breeding and in agriculture that never came about.

>Joseph Stalin supported the campaign. More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were fired or even sent to prison,[3] and numerous scientists were executed as part of a campaign instigated by Lysenko to suppress his scientific opponents.[4][5][6][7] The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was sent to prison and died there, while scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.[2] Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines was also negatively affected or banned.[

Clearly the myth of the mistreatment of Galileo Galilei by the catholic church is projection.


90f955  No.12713968

>>12713683

Lysenkoism is just consequence no the reason.

Reason is that "liberals" believes system is based on the axiom that nurture > nature. (unless you are white male then you are ultimate evil that can't be fixed only erased)


e8ca4e  No.12715689

>>12713637

Thanks, but I didn't mean in terms of launching things into space as much as just a new and more efficient means of propulsion within our atmosphere.

I mean is the concept sound? You seem well learned so I just thought I'd ask.

Also, are you really the same guys who did HLI? No biggie just curious


31f720  No.12731577

Do you think there is a secret space operation working on anti-gravity spaceship with nuclear power?




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