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e1b786  No.12683882

"So if child rape was to become legalized the child rapist would become reformed citizens?"

"If Drugs were legalized druggies wouldn't rip out copper from walls to fund their addiction that's fueled by not the street dealer but by drugs sold in gas stations?"

"If Drugs were legalized the cartel workers would go back to the fields?"

"

If you want to know what would happen when drugs are legalized look no further than our opiate crisis. Up until recently doctors got away with being legal drug dealers.

Drug firms shipped 20.8M pain pills to WV town with 2,900 people

"

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/health/drug-firms-shipped-m-pain-pills-to-wv-town-with/article_ef04190c-1763-5a0c-a77a-7da0ff06455b.html

f52bd3  No.12683904

>if you use cannabis for pain management due to nerve damage you are a baby rapist

Fuck off, Jew.


e1b786  No.12683954

>>12683904

If we were to legalize meth it would cure addiction?


1ec0ae  No.12683964

Do it yourself. I'm totally for it. Let the weak choke on their poisons of choice.


e13f01  No.12683974

>>12683954

meth doesn't have medicinal benefits


a1aa37  No.12683983

It's not a real issue.


6207b7  No.12683989

>>12683882

What is the child consents though?


c38cac  No.12684035

>>12683882

There is none. Give it up, kike. If they're regulated and sold only with ID, Tyrone, Kim and your son Ari won't be using it to dose my daughter and rape her.


c38cac  No.12684038

>>12683974

>what is adderall

Seriously, stop getting your drug information from kike media and masonic cops.


c3c89e  No.12684056

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV3lak919Qg

keep on slidin


c3c89e  No.12684057

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


f52bd3  No.12684187

>>12683954

Nobody said that, Jew. Leave until you find a real argument.


1e3c5e  No.12684196

Norm equalization arguement (source roissy) as applies for same sex marriage

>>12683974

Weight loss for morbidly obese


af6a66  No.12684204

>>12683904

This is an incredibly Jewish post.

>>12683882

"Read Brave New World you stupid pleb."


af6a66  No.12684208

>>12684187

>Nobody said that, Jew. Leave until you find a real argument.

<if you use cannabis for pain management due to nerve damage you are a baby rapist

Jewish af.


f52bd3  No.12684218

>>12684208

You're the one who literally equated 'muh drugz' to child molestation. Go Jew somewhere else. Your 'no u' is meaningless.


326c69  No.12684237

>opiates being more dangerous than illegal drugs makes all drugs bad

Fuck off npc.


9fd883  No.12684243

>>12683904

>faggots want cannabis legalized because they care so much about people with nerve damage

You're fooling no one, bongnigger.


03345b  No.12684252

>>12684035

Just like alcohol.. oh wait.


af6a66  No.12684283

>>12684218

>You're the one

No, I'm not.

>doesn't understand the difference between comparative juxtaposition and equivalence

Low-IQ people should just lurk, not post.


af6a66  No.12684298

>>12684035

>>12684252

I had a fake ID when I was 13.

Also, legalization doesn't eliminate the black market, it acts as an entry vector.

>Get injured

>Take opiates

>Get hooked

>Pharma too expensive

<Heroin is $3 a stampbag

=

>Get injured

>Use legal cannabis

>Get hooked

>Medical herb too expensive

<Illegal shit as-good and half the price

See how that works?


f52bd3  No.12684309

>>12684283

>what is an inconsistent comparison

>what is a blatant attempt at appeal to emotion

>muh aye cue

Pilpul.


326c69  No.12684324

There is literally nothing wrong with drugs. All you need to do is use it responsibly. Puritans can suck the projectile out of a shotgun.


ece196  No.12684330

>>12683882

A crux of Conservatism (true conservatism not neocon bullshit) is order. Without order we fall into disorder and the nation falls apart. White homogeneity, religious virtue, all of this stems from the instinct to preserve an orderly society. When Commiefornia legalized marijuana, they taxed the Hell out of it which doubled the amount of illegal sales due to legal weed's outrageous price. Crime = disorder. Additionally, weed is linked with schizophrenia and degenerative behaviors. Degeneration, mental disorders, and crime are literally antithetical to an orderly society. No Conservative (not an intelligent one anyway) would campaign for marijewanas legalization because in practice it is handled poorly.


000000  No.12684341

Outlawing drugs simultaneously makes less-or-non-addicting and potentially beneficial substances such as entheogens, entactogens and psychedelics scarce while the most harmful and addictive substances such as opiates and stimulants the most available to fund organized crime and deep state corruption.


1e3c5e  No.12684346

>>12684324

Vices should be treated as vices, permissive=/=sanctioned.


bcca99  No.12684381

>>12683882

You legalize and decriminalize ALL drugs or none at all. Your doctor is nothing more than a glorified Drug Dealer in a lab coat.

We already know prohibition does not work as people will make their own booze in a bathtub rather than be sober.

Governments worldwide would love their citizenry to be docile, yet just smart enough to operate the machines.

Why this major push for ONLY weed? Their are plenty of functional drugs like Modafinil, Methylphenidate and Phenethylamine derivatives that should not even be scheduled. I propose that the government wants you fat and happy rather than too smart to question the motives of the elite.

The real question that you should be asking is who benefits from the legalization of marijuana? The tax payer sure as hell doesn't.


1e3c5e  No.12684397

>>12684381

It's about control, prohibitionist method delivers this and so does provision method, notice our admitted Afghanistan policy.

The bias for downers is real, even tamer stims like ecigs are being patrolled.


bcca99  No.12684456

File: 3aeefe327ef9abf⋯.gif (82.37 KB, 768x576, 4:3, 1520781379313.gif)

>>12684397

>It's about control

Out of hundreds of people I've asked you are one out of about ten that got the right answer.

>prohibitionist method delivers this

Not terribly well, it's why the mafia became a "thing" and people where boozing it up at the speakeasies. I've been to dry counties, people either order online, hop over the county line or make their own.

I'm of the opinion that everything should be decriminalized (descheduled). You'll see a spike in drug use and in a single generation the people that are addicts will die out.


9a5832  No.12684465

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>>12684381

>We already know prohibition does not work

Who's we?


bcca99  No.12684495

>>12684465

>Prohibition in the United States was a nationwide constitutional ban on the production, importation, transportation, and sale of alcoholic beverages from 1920 to 1933.

I'm American thus the "we" pronoun.


af6a66  No.12684498

>>12684309

>what is an inconsistent comparison

Not a comparative juxtaposition between drug abuse and child molestation within the context of the populace's response relative to the legality of each in turn.

>what is a blatant attempt at appeal to emotion

Again, not this.

You're just upset that you don't understand the difference between comparative juxtaposition and implication of equivalence.

Nobody is calling you a baby fucker on the basis of being a pothead in their comparing the response of people with regards to variation in the legality of baby fucking and pot smoking.


af6a66  No.12684502

>>12684381

>We already know prohibition does not work as people will make their own booze in a bathtub rather than be sober.

<Making murder illegal doesn't work as people will still kill people sneakily rather than not kill people.

God this is dumb.


000000  No.12684503

Great fucking idea OP! Let's impose our ideology on others for the good of society! What's that called again?


af6a66  No.12684505

>>12684503

>Let's impose our ideology on others for the good of society! What's that called again?

Civilization?


9a5832  No.12684514

>>12684495

Nothing works in America


bcca99  No.12684520

>>12684502

It's only illegal if you get caught.


bcca99  No.12684524

>>12684514

Off topic sadly, create another thread for that discussion.


c84678  No.12684527

Your country is already unproductive and wasted on pot


af6a66  No.12684533

>>12684514

Thing is, prohibition DID work.

>What everyone knows about Prohibition is that it was a failure. It did not eliminate drinking; it did create a black market. That in turn spawned criminal syndicates and random violence. Corruption and widespread disrespect for law were incubated and, most tellingly, Prohibition was repealed only 14 years after it was enshrined in the Constitution.

>The lesson drawn by commentators is that it is fruitless to allow moralists to use criminal law to control intoxicating substances. Many now say it is equally unwise to rely on the law to solve the nation's drug problem.

<But the conventional view of Prohibition is not supported by the facts.

<First, the regime created in 1919 by the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act, which charged the Treasury Department with enforcement of the new restrictions, was far from all-embracing The amendment prohibited the commercial manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages; it did not prohibit use, nor production for one's own consumption. Moreover, the provisions did not take effect until a year after passage -plenty of time for people to stockpile supplies.

<Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928. Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.

<Third, violent crime did not increase dramatically during Prohibition. Homicide rates rose dramatically from 1900 to 1910 but remained roughly constant during Prohibition's 14 year rule. Organized crime may have become more visible and lurid during Prohibition, but it existed before and after.

<Fourth, following the repeal of Prohibition, alcohol consumption increased. Today, alcohol is estimated to be the cause of more than 23,000 motor vehicle deaths and is implicated in more than half of the nation's 20,000 homicides.

>Prohibition did not end alcohol use. What is remarkable, however, is that a relatively narrow political movement, relying on a relatively weak set of statutes, succeeded in reducing, by one-third, the consumption of a drug that had wide historical and popular sanction.


1e3c5e  No.12684545

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>>12684533

Prohibition was a Womyns temper tantrum.


bcca99  No.12684550

>>12684533

Prohibition takes away free will.

>>12684545

It was caused by religious groups getting uppity.


af6a66  No.12684553

>>12684545

Doesn't matter, it worked.

So, what's gonna happen when we rescind the long-standing prohibition on pot?

Well, the data suggests more people will smoke pot and the black market will not disappear, but a ton more people will be exposed to a vector leading into that black market.

Whether or not prohibition was related to twats being salty is irrelevant - it worked. That's all that matters.

>>12684550

>muh free will!

So do laws against baby-fucking you incredibly sophist.


af6a66  No.12684555

*incredibly sophist faggot.


1e3c5e  No.12684558

>>12684550

Yes church ladies rabble rousing while all the men were dying for Palestine in europe.


af6a66  No.12684565

We really need better moderation on this board.


bcca99  No.12684584

>>12684553

>Doesn't matter, it worked.

According to you. If it worked then alcohol would still be illegal.

>muh free will!

So do laws against baby-fucking you incredibly sophist.

Ad hominem attacks are a low blow. Try harder.


af6a66  No.12684593

>According to you.

No, according to what it means to have 'worked' - it reduced alcohol usage by a significant margin, as well as the resultant negative consequences.

>If it worked then alcohol would still be illegal.

That doesn't follow.

Its purpose was to reduce alcohol consumption. It worked.

It ceased to be a law because people of (((influence))) wanted to make money selling drugs. That doesn't alter the fact that prohibition worked.

>muh free will!

<not allowing you to fuck babies also inhibits free will, dumbass

<hurrrrr muh ad hom!

You're really stupid.


cc30d6  No.12684608

>against drug legalization

If it's supposed to be illegal at the federal level, and it's not in the constitution, there's supposed to be an amendment.

The entirety of BATF is illegal, along with the IRS.

Prove me wrong faggot.


9a5832  No.12684616

>>12684550

>Prohibition takes away free will.

Who cares lolberg?


1e3c5e  No.12684617

File: 00e3f6a0226f895⋯.jpeg (9.84 KB, 217x232, 217:232, download (23).jpeg)

>>12684593

So are you saying roasties were right for the wrong reasons?


af6a66  No.12684628

>>12684617

>So are you saying roasties were right for the wrong reasons?

I guess?

I don't know that they were even right, in that they wanted to get rid of ALL drinking it seems, and the legislation didn't even TRY to do that.

I just know that the process worked at its intended purpose, and that was probably for the best.

Alcoholism is a terrible blight upon our people, much akin to the opiate epidemic, but people have gotten so used to boozehounds being a thing that they don't even consider the notion of trying to do anything about it anymore.

Making it legal to have weed and grow it for personal uses is one thing, making it legal for massive grow operations run by pharma companies owned by the same jews shilling opiates and booze to the masses seems like a bad idea.


bcca99  No.12684637

>>12684593

>You're really stupid.

Says the guy who gets his stats from a nytimes article:

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opinion/actually-prohibition-was-a-success.html

>muh free will!

<not allowing you to fuck babies also inhibits free will, dumbass

<hurrrrr muh ad hom!

Your argument means nothing.

I prefer to have free will. You bringing up murder doesn't compare to intoxicants. Murder is illegal because it is morally wrong, alcohol is legal because most people don't drink to injure other people, they only injure themselves.


bcca99  No.12684642

>>12684616

You should care.

Do you want to have the government telling you what you can and can not eat or drink?


1e3c5e  No.12684651

>>12684637

>what are externalities

Lolbergs should know their economics better. There are undesirable incentives that low cost and abundant Intoxicants , widespread have on level on population. This atomized model is not tenable.


bcca99  No.12684652

>>12684628

Agreed on all points.

I guess a good compromise for alcohol would only allow for it be made in the home of the the drinker, not for distribution or sale to anyone else.


af6a66  No.12684653

>Says the guy who gets his stats from a nytimes article:

And? Feel free to disprove the assertions.

I mean, I assume you aren't going to cry about ad hom and then fall back on attacking the source, are you?

>Your argument means nothing.

Says the guy whose argument can't be reconciled beyond his limited context of introduction.

>I prefer to have free will.

Then we have to legalize baby-fucking.

>You bringing up murder doesn't compare to intoxicants.

Restrictions on murder restrict your free will. If everything limiting free will has to go, then so does the restriction on murder.

>Murder is illegal because it is morally wrong

So is drunk driving.

>alcohol is legal because

People wanted to make money selling drugs to people. That's it.

>most people don't drink to injure other people, they only injure themselves.

<Today, alcohol is estimated to be the cause of more than 23,000 motor vehicle deaths and is implicated in more than half of the nation's 20,000 homicides.

There's a good place to start as goes disproving assertions from the article by the source you attacked after crying about ad hom.


af6a66  No.12684661

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12684652

>I guess a good compromise for alcohol would only allow for it be made in the home of the the drinker, not for distribution or sale to anyone else.

I'd be fine with that. Same with weed, to be honest.

The issue isn't the drugs themselves, nor peoples access to them, its the way large-scale operations form up around them and pimp them to people.

Fucking hate South Park, but god damn if they didn't get this one right on the money.


9a5832  No.12684664

>>12684642

>Do you want to have the government telling you what you can and can not eat or drink

That would do a lot of people a lot of good based the obesity rate.


bcca99  No.12684665

>>12684653

You're right. I've changed my mind. Thank you for the convincing argument.

I'm still having a difficult time on grasping the government regulating what I put into my body though.


c7f5fe  No.12684670

No legalization of drugs without the privatization of its consequences.


af6a66  No.12684673

>>12684653

Wow it actually got even worse.

>According to NHTSA, 37,133 people were killed in motor vehicle crashes in 2017, a decrease 1.8 percent from 37,806 in 2016.

>Drunk driving fatalities accounted for 29 percent of all traffic fatalities, the lowest proportion of overall traffic fatalities since record-keeping began in 1982.

There's only about 30,000 firearms related DEATHS (about 60% of that being suicides) in any given year in the US.


bcca99  No.12684675

>>12684664

Do you trust the government to make the correct decisions? I'd be on board with this if it where not for the fact that government fucks up at everything.


af6a66  No.12684686

>I'm still having a difficult time on grasping the government regulating what I put into my body though.

I understand, but if you don't have an issue with the government telling you in whose holes you can stick your body, them telling you not to put addictive chemicals in your body is probably not a huge issue in the long run.

Plus, as I said, I don't have an issue with you USING drugs and alcohol - I have an issue with major international corporations bribing your government to allow them to run massive operations to manufacture and distribute addictive drugs, coupled with huge platforms of propaganda urging people to use those drugs in ways that are not in their best interest.

I'm sure you understand how that's an issue.

Want to have a beer you made yourself in your home with some friends and family? Great! Have fun! (But don't drive drunk!)

Want to smoke a joint at home, from the garden you tended and grew from a seedling and processed for use in the home? Go for it! Especially if you've got chronic pain or the like.

But if you want to run a massive operation funded by my enemies to shill addictive literal-poison to my people en masse, using manipulative media advertising, without any consideration for the damage this does on both the individual and societal levels, then you can go fuck yourself sideways with an iron bar.


af6a66  No.12684697

>Do you trust the government to make the correct decisions?

Not at all.

>I'd be on board with this if it where not for the fact that government fucks up at everything.

They already are fucking it up, thats where you're getting confused.

The government SHOULD be saying "Hey, you wanna use that shit, its on you to make it. Have fun" instead of "Oh, hello Mr. Schlomobergsteinowitz! Oh, you want to build another factory to manufacture addictive substances? And you want to run manipulative media adverts urging people to use them? Couldn't that have a negative eff- oh wow that's a lot of money you have there! FOR ME!? YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE! Huh? Oh, yeah, the factory, do whatever you want man!".


58ba33  No.12684702

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>>12683882

Some Key Note Speakers at a few cannabis Conventions;

.

Fox; MX Illegal Cannabis is laundered thru dispensaries.

Sharpton; still owes the IRS, Cannabis is all cash bidness.

Whoopi; who da fuk?

.

Culling and Quelling…


bcca99  No.12684711

>>12684686

>I understand, but if you don't have an issue with the government telling you in whose holes you can stick your body, them telling you not to put addictive chemicals in your body is probably not a huge issue in the long run.

The major issue is the government is terrible at regulating peoples choices. I don't think we'd be having the conversation if advertising existed for these products (or any for that matter) and we had killed off the socialist revolution of the 60's, thus preventing the decline of critical thinking in schools.

The government shouldn't be the one forcing this. It'll be alcohol today, then sugar the next day, then meat the next day. Obama's school lunch program was a disaster due to our government being so shitty at regulating food. This is what worries me about government controlling what we put in our bodies.


bcca99  No.12684724

>>12684697

>The government SHOULD be saying "Hey, you wanna use that shit, its on you to make it. Have fun

Wouldn't this create a black market?


2bbfc7  No.12684725

>Let's grant the current ZOG institutions even more power if possible

Kill yourself. We will go through absolute anarchy before any of us has a chance to positively effect governmental change.


1e3c5e  No.12684731

>>12684725

whether they ban or enable, their control remains.


af6a66  No.12684742

>The major issue is the government is terrible at regulating peoples choices.

Qite true! That's why it shouldn't be regulating PEOPLES choices in that capacity.

>I don't think we'd be having the conversation if advertising existed for these products (or any for that matter)

What do you mean?

>and we had killed off the jewish revolution of the 60's, thus preventing the decline of critical thinking in schools.

FTFY and yes, I'm inclined to agree there.

>It'll be alcohol today, then sugar the next day, then meat the next day.

That didn't happen with prohibition. In fact, again, the government didn't even say the people couldn't use it - they said the people couldn't MASS PRODUCE it or DISTRIBUTE it.

And surely you don't have an issue with the government telling people not to MASS PRODUCE or DISTRIBUTE addictive drugs, right? I mean, by the sound of it, its really the reverse of what you said: I was alcohol yesterday, today it'll be pot, the next day it'll be MDMA, then heroin the next (granted, they already a legalized variant of heroin, but you get the idea).

>Wouldn't this create a black market?

Black market already exists.

Legalization does nothing in that capacity, as I addressed in a previous post.

Legalization invariably comes with increased cost. That's just the way it is, because the dispensers have increased costs they have to cover, thus this gets shunted onto the customer/product cost.

That variance in price is all that is required for a black market to emerge if it did not already exist, especially when you're talking about an addictive substance.

That said, if you really wanted booze, or weed, but nobody was selling it, why not just make it yourself?

I mean, yeah, you could buy it off someone who might be making it, but that's a lot of risk on your behalf - not to mention the risk of the guys making enough of it to have enough to distribute!

Point being, a black market will exist no matter what you do, so legalization won't change that in any way.

Further, if we're talking about making MASS PRODUCTION and DISTRIBUTION illegal, but NOT making personal production/consumption illegal, then a lot of the issues therein fall away - why risk breaking the law for something that I can produce myself at even lower cost than the stuff available on the black market?

Basic shifting of incentives.


2bbfc7  No.12684753

>>12684731

As long as the current order exists, yes of course. Thus, my previous statement. There is no acting within a system, we have no legitimate government. In a certain sense we are already living under the failures and evil of anarcho-tyrrany, as of course we know that laws are selectively enforced mostly upon White men and thus there is no law as such.

This too shall pass

NOW


000000  No.12684755

What I find time and time again is that the people who seek to control drugs are the ones that know the least about them.

Take Canada for example. The "legalization" has gone about as bad as I have expected. There is nowhere near the supply of legal cannabis to fit the demand, and municipalities are allowed to ban the sale, leaving organized crime with plenty of business. This isn't surprising, the government and organized crime are hand in hand here. On top of that, growing your own cannabis is still outlawed. Moving it over the border is outlawed. We're not even allowed to eat it if we want. Now if you get caught breaking these new regulations you get giant fines rather than being dismissed in court. Real fucking legalized right?

The next step is to declare legalization a failure and put the lid back on it for the long term. What will the crooks ever do without their weed income?


af6a66  No.12684756

>>12684742

Oh, right and as evidenced in that article you didn't like very much above, there really wasn't any negative consequence from saying "You can't MASS PRODUCE or DISTRIBUTE alcohol - but you can make it yourself at home and enjoy it therein" other than that which was already extant.

The whole 'prohibition failed!' narrative is a figment made up by those who 1) want to have free license to shill this crap en masse to the goyim, and/or 2) have a really autistic issue with authority imposing upon them in any way, shape or form.

You were kinda coming off as a 2 there for awhile, but I think you're just not keen on an authority you don't trust having power over you, and that's understandable on some level.

My thing is, instead of having the government standing over us, regulating these drugs and imposing taxes on them and such, while allowing (((big business))) scumbags to shill the shit for shekels regardless of the damage it does, we should be allowed to have it in our homes and use it at our leisure (if we have the agency to produce it, of course!), while the (((big business))) faggots get left out in the cold without allowances to shill it or to make enough of it to shill.


a508a5  No.12684760

>>12684755

>What I find time and time again is that the people who seek to control drugs are the ones that know the least about them.

Wrong, they know the most about them. It's the retards who haven't learned the price of drug addiction who don't know shit about them


3bc79c  No.12684768

I was going to say something about how clueless OP is about the pharmajew, but his thought process is so telling… 'child rape' huh? Just kill yourself, nigger and I would wager you're at least some halfbreed mongoloid abomination that doesn't belong here. Giving a fuck what other adults put in their body hahaha. You can't even control your weight, you fake fuck. Those cheeseburgers are going to kill you the same as any pill.


95a623  No.12684771

Laws don't prevent people from drugs. People don't do drugs because they don't want to do drugs. Laws don't prevent shit.

By ops logic we should ban guns because banning them would prevent misuse.


af6a66  No.12684779

The comments above are demonstrable of baitposting.

It's basically shitposting, but with the intent of gaining (you)s.

The only people who do this as douchebags trying to create arguments to no end, and malicious operatives who get paid based on the number of responses they get.

The moderation staff has spectacularly failed to combat the sudden uptick in this activity seen since the moderation purge after the midterms.

>Laws don't prevent people from drugs.

>>12684533

Check em baitniggerz.


000000  No.12684792

>>12684760

Well the doctors here, who you would think should know about drugs, were pushing to limit the amount of THC in cannabis, therefore forcing the users to smoke more of it, increasing the chances of respiratory disease. If they knew how cannabis was used they would know this is stupid, especially with our oh-so-great socialized health care system. They can drain those taxpayer dollars treating even more cancer and emphysema and the like. Dare not we eat it avoiding these health hazards.


bcca99  No.12684799

>>12684742

>Qite true! That's why it shouldn't be regulating PEOPLES choices in that capacity.

Just corporations?

>What do you mean?

I don't think we'd be having this conversation if advertising didn't exist for these products (or any for that matter).

>and we had killed off the jewish revolution of the 60's, thus preventing the decline of critical thinking in schools.

100% socialism, 80% Kike.

>And surely you don't have an issue with the government telling people not to MASS PRODUCE or DISTRIBUTE addictive drugs, right? I mean, by the sound of it, its really the reverse of what you said: It was alcohol yesterday, today it'll be pot, the next day it'll be MDMA, then heroin the next (granted, they already a legalized variant of heroin, but you get the idea).

Not really. I take Modafinil and Ritalin yet I'm not an addict and no one can make this stuff at home. However I buy it off the black market because it is cheaper, you got me there. The solution here is to publicly shame addicts and force them into rehab, then kill them if they don't get their act together.


e16f4d  No.12684806

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>>12684779

>The moderation staff has spectacularly failed to combat the sudden uptick in this activity seen since the moderation purge after the midterms.

More oversocialized drivel. We've had this thread 6 gorrillian times since at least the second exodus, which is why the actual responses are already fleshed out. The hivemind has spoken on this issue, thus it needs no thread. But newfaggots will need to see it a few times before they get bored of it, which is why we're bothering to reply.


0a45b4  No.12684812

>>12684298

You can't just get Medical cannabis unless you prove that you tried taking everything before getting approved


bcca99  No.12684814

>>12684756

Most drugs can't be made at home though.


e16f4d  No.12684824

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>>12684806

Scratch that image, this is the unfucked one


f49b9c  No.12684852

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>>12683882

it all come down to societal productivity and individual repercussions. With tobacco: you can smoke a cigarette and still work so the years it takes to develop lung cancer doesn't matter. With Alcohol: you can't work while drunk, however you are punish for doing so with a hangover the next day, so people know not to drink to great excess. With every other drug your productivity is impaired and the negative effects don't come until years down the line. Which makes it easy for a society to get high, addicted, stagnate, and then collapse.


000000  No.12684859

>>12684814

Most drugs can be made in a bathroom if you know what you're doing.


8c9e90  No.12684866

>>12684038

Who profits from adderall


bcca99  No.12684867

>>12684852

>With every other drug your productivity is impaired and the negative effects don't come until years down the line. Which makes it easy for a society to get high, addicted, stagnate, and then collapse.

Not true. It's the dose that makes the poison.

Take 10mg of Ritalin than proceed to study a difficult concept such as 4th year EE coursework.

Take 40mg of Ritalin and you tweak about government conspiracies.

>>12684859

Tell me how to make Modafinil and Ritalin in the bathtub without killing myself and I'll believe you.


bcca99  No.12684870

>>12684866

If taken legally as prescribed? The patient.


000000  No.12684894

>>12684859

>Tell me how to make Modafinil and Ritalin in the bathtub without killing myself and I'll believe you.

Learn safe practices of organic chemistry. Look up synthesis on internet. BAM


04f655  No.12684896

Kill yourself faggot.


8c9e90  No.12684898

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>>12684870

Pic related conveys the stupidity of your statement


04f655  No.12684904

>>12684870

He said profit, not benefit. When was your last hit?


bcca99  No.12684931

>>12684894

Still didn't answer my question.

Both of those drugs can't be made at home because of the inability to acquire the precursors, along with the cost to make sure you made the drug safely. Their is a reason most drugs are made in a lab and not your bathtub.

>>12684898

>>12684904

You are correct.

Society profits from it as you now have a functioning person who can hold a job and contribute to his nations economy and have a family rather than living in a cardboard box.

Ask stupid questions, win stupid questions.

Next time ask:

What companies profit from formulating adderall

https://web.archive.org/web/20131216080856/http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ndc/results.cfm?beginrow=1&numberperpage=160&searchfield=amphetamine&searchtype=ActiveIngredient&OrderBy=ProprietaryName


bcca99  No.12684936

>>12684931

Ask stupid questions, win stupid prizes.


2d38d3  No.12684946

>>12684675

>>12684675

typical lolberg argument. Let's not make any laws! It could make things worse so let's not even try.

Meanwhile our enemies push and push and push and even if it takes decades they get the job done.


000000  No.12684951

>>12684931

>Both of those drugs can't be made at home because of the inability to acquire the precursors, along with the cost to make sure you made the drug safely. Their is a reason most drugs are made in a lab and not your bathtub.

Well obviously you would need precursors, and yes, with a bit of effort you can get pretty much anything you want. My point is that if someone really wants to, they can.

I would however recommend proper facilities.


bcca99  No.12684963

>>12684946

>typical lolberg argument. Let's not make any laws! It could make things worse so let's not even try.

Your words, not mine. I'm open for something that works, historically speaking the government does a piss poor job at making laws that work because of Kike influence.


04f655  No.12684973

>>12684963

That's because laws are not about justice and keeping the peace anymore, they are about a (((revenue))) stream.


bcca99  No.12684984

>>12684973

What would your solution to this problem entail then?

Teach critical thinking skills in school and to enforce the CCA of 1968? Or have a nanny state? I'm open for real ideas.


04f655  No.12684998

>>12684984

Why leave it to the school alone to teach critical thinking?


bcca99  No.12685005

>>12684998

Because they use to teach it before the Jews/Commies took over our education system in the 60's. We've bred multiple generations of parents and children who can't detect bullshit.

What would your solution to this problem entail then?


49378a  No.12685150

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>>12683882

>arguments against drug legalization

they turn people into mentally defective retards

what more of an argument do you need?


000014  No.12685221

>Generalizing drugs, coffee not included

>It's drugs fault, not people

>Drugs killed my son!

>Drugs cause this and that!

Last time I left my weed on my table it didn't get out of the house and kill anyone, thank god.

Same mentality as anti-funs. All drugs should be legal and abuse to the point of psychosis should be considered degenerate as it is with anything else.


608cb8  No.12685293

The issue is what our society tolerates. We have a drug issue because people don't have families anymore and multiracial societies suck, weed was available in the 1950's and wasn't a problem. People turn to alcoholism, weed, food etc because of how awful it is to live in Multiracial societies.

>>12685221

>DUDE WEED LMAO

at least alcoholics admit they've destroyed their lives and their habit is not good. Weed doesn't make you drunk drive, it just kills your brainpower, memory, and takes away motivation. How about you get hooked on anger? Every time you feel mad, pick up some weights and pump that shit. Anger is one hell of a drug and it motivates you to fix shit. I

Anger helps you clean the kitchen.

Anger helps you lift weights.

Anger helps you clean your room.

Anger helps you eat better.

Anger helps you get a wife and family.

Submission is ordering fast food when your kitchen is dirty.

Submission is when you watch porn instead of fixing your health issues.

Submission is using vice in copious quantities to avoid confronting the uncomfortable parts of your life.


68a184  No.12686137

>the government should be able to prohibit species of organism because they can make people feel good

kill yourself faggot


68a184  No.12686164

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>>12684533

who cares if it works? so what if people want to get drunk and have fun sometimes? we don't need some faggot nanny state telling us what we can and can't do bolstered by a pack of loser moralfags like you.


68a184  No.12686167

so what if alcohol has harmful effects? it also has the beneficial effect of being fun and enjoyable, why the fuck else would people drink? the same applies to all other drugs, fuck you


000000  No.12697519

It doesn't matter how harmful a drug is, it shouldn't be illegal. Adults are responsible for themselves.


d74b53  No.12699494

>>12683882

>Brain storming arguments against legalization

Prohibition is the problem, not legalization. Prohibition does not work and is a massive waste of money, you're better off legalizing drugs for the following reasons:

>Kids have less access to them

It was easier for me to buy marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine, mushrooms and LSD than it was tobacco and alcohol. Drug dealers don't care about ID, licensed stores or venues do. Legalization has a better impact on teen use than any form of prohibition. This lets you cut back DEA massively while keeping smaller local branches to investigate and go after those dealing drugs to children.

>Crime goes down

With a legal market in place, the black market sees heavily reduced profits because they cannot compete with quality product, nor can they operate when so many legal retailers are available. In the more popular drugs like marijuana, simply allowing people to grow their own phases out one of the most profitable drugs currently on the black market. Even if you wanna argue that black markets will still exist, you cannot dispute that they still incur high risk for diminished returns which cuts down on personnel, influence and total crime because they cannot compete with retailers, especially if you have retailers that sell lower grade drugs for less than higher quality drugs.

>More police resources

Plenty of criminal cases are unsolved and the relation between police and citizens is strained because of how much victimless drug crimes alone contributes to incarcerations. Nonviolent drug incarcerations are high numbers, reaching about 15% of total incarcerated, which would go down drastically with legalization giving cops above 10% extra resources to deal with other serious crimes.

>Excess money goes to treating addiction and prevention of diseases/OD rather than jails and police

This reduces the strain on healthcare (clean needle initiatives proved this in Portugal) and puts more money into emergency services like overdoses which we already pay for on top of the extras like police, prison, dea, etc.

>financial incentives

Taxes generated by the sale of drugs are high and can be spent on sectors in need of assistance. Colorado famously generated incredible sums of money by taxing cannabis sales and invested them into improving schooling. Locally, these funds can do incredible good if used on essentials like infrastructure which is failing across america.

>Rates of use do not change drastically

Most people would not do heroin tomorrow just because it's legal. In Portugal which decriminalized all drugs the result was a spike in use for the first year of decriminalization followed by a rapid decline to pre-decriminalization levels or below (the only exception being marijuana due to it's higher popularity and safety profile).

>Some illegal drugs are the best medicines we have for specific conditions

LSD is one of the best cures for cluster headaches. LSD, Mushrooms and MDMA are one of the best cures for PTSD. LSD and Mushrooms are great for people with terminal illnesses, helping them come to terms with death and connecting with loved ones. Marijuana is a fantastic counter to some of the effects of chemotherapy and CBD from cannabis can be used for pain management while being far safer than pills on the market which commonly use opiates.

>Responsible use is promoted, reducing OD's

Giving users proper information reduces overdoses and cuts back on health issues from adulterants. Fentanyl and NBOME are frequently sold as LSD despite being far more dangerous, a user taking a high dose of those while believing it to be a safe dose of LSD can thus overdose by mistake, increasing health costs for taxpayers. Legalization cuts down on this issue while informing users of the risks. Certain restrictions that can be made to ban the sale of specific drugs to people such as parents because children are in the household.

>But guys, I wanna be le edgy contrarian and muh degenerate druggies should die!

Retards will still exist and overdose accidentally or intentionally because of risk seeking or suicidal tendencies, therefore giving them access to drugs makes them kill themselves faster.


359030  No.12699533

wait, hol' up

what is wrong with sped up eugenics? what is wrong with retards darwining themselves out of the society? isnt it mostly niggers, minorities, and other outdated farming equipment that falls for drugs anyway?


d74b53  No.12699544

>>12684553

>doesn't matter guys, it worked!

>what happens when we get rid of pot huh? we create an entry vector for the black market!

So if we have a black market either way why not go with the legal one? The black market that is created by the way is different from the one we see today. Colorado's black market is due to an excessive amount of cultivation allowed on personal property (one medical marijuana patient can be granted up to 99 plants in a household, other limits are as high as 12 plants per avg person). Other is simply high possession which can be a direct result of high cultivation rather than intent to sell. The majority of these plants also are exported OUT of state rather than sold in state, meaning that the black market that is created doesn't hit the people of the local state, but instead goes to illegal states where black markets are the only market and profit is higher.

The black markets of prohibition and national legalization are therefore very different. One features higher rates of violence, gang warfare and organized criminal enterprise while the other can be as simple as one guy growing 99 plants and distributing them out of state to a handful of individuals rather than thousands of distributors. The solutions are also very different, one just needs to edit the limit on growing, the other was so violent that police would not make an arrest until the highest order of jew (IRS) got involved. They're different kinds of black markets and frankly I prefer the easier to fix/less violent one over mexiniggers.

>muh free will is a shill tactic because baby fucking is also illegal

Invalid comparison, a victimless "crime" where the only harm is personal and willfully accepted is not the same as a crime that does harm to a non consenting victim.


d74b53  No.12699547

>>12699533

Plenty of whites use and sell drugs, the difference is that whites know to deal/use these at private residences rather than in the middle of the street in an already overpoliced neighborhood because of violent crimes.


f58836  No.12699569

Lol you dumb fuck its not as easy as walking into a doctors office and asking for roxy 30s. Unless you have legit injuries, and even then its just not that simple.

Also look at the work these guys do in WV. Its hard labor in coal mines, injuries are high = more prescriptions.


cf014f  No.12699576

>>12699569

Schlomo, the opium wars are real.


cf014f  No.12699654

>>12684498

You're satan af.


a7a9a6  No.12699656

Think of how many underground movements you could have funded through selling light drugs, now it becomes a taxed jew game, soon only cockfights and blackmarket chicken is viable.


cf014f  No.12699660

>>12684550

>>12684545

The Jews dogmatized religion and instigated the feminist agenda to destabilize Law and Order so their rat race could rule via the controlling or organizing the mafia or organized crime.




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