/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

OP HERE, FUCK THIS THREAD. ANOTHER ONE IS ALREADY UP

>>4819264

>Dr. Robert Finkelstein

e'rery time.

>>4819355

>Our pragmatic definition: a meme is

information which propagates, has

impact, and persists

No wonder they can't get shit done. They didn't even bother to look up the actual definition of meme.

>>4819400

They're kikes.

When it comes to memes, they are primitives who squawk at the foreign object, throw stones at it, and flee out of fear at the first sign of danger.

They are the definition of berrypickers.

>>4819355

Wait they are studying /pol/ ?

holy Fuck

They been studying us since the beginning of 4chan. Seriously Op did you think these sites weren't being monitored at all?

>>4819437

They have a pretty spot on analysis of us too. (minus a couple strawmans and Jew lies)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/conspiracy-theory-jews-david-cameron-antisemitism-extremism?CMP=fb_gu

>>4819400

They said that is the pragmatic definition, which is entirely true. You're thinking of the bastardized definition, which shouldn't be used in an official application.

>>4819457

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baddiel#Early_life

>His parents were both from Jewish families.[6]

keksimus maximus

>>4819355

there's already a thread up OP

see >>4819264

I am almost 80% sure "Rightwing DeathSquads" and MoonMan were forced memes

>>4819938

Right Wing Death Squads is a forced meme that we assimilated.

We mocked the forced out of it and now it's not as Alphabet soup.

Moonman is not forced, but it's from a source of such pure autism that it was initially blinding to look at.

>>4819457

>direct-linking the guardian

Why do people do this?

Their memes suck and their research is shit.

This just sounds like a cash grab by taking OUR memes. Those jewish shills wasted so much time trying to influence us, they gave up and made their stupid little company and slapped together this pdf with generic psychological/advertisement research.

It's literally nothing but embarrassing.

I've been saying this for months. Hedge your dubs in a low-risk mutual meme, then go heavy into pepe futures. If you pick the right puts you'll easily triple your rarity in weeks.

>>4819459

Fuck that. Their pragmatic definition may be entirely true, but it's only partially entirely true.

Are math and shitting in a toilet memes? Fuck no. To someone that's new to what memes are and doesn't quite grasp them, or even someone that's over-analyzing them due to unfamiliarity, it might seem like it, but we know it's not. Yes, they're similar and fit within part of what memes are, but they're not, not by a long shot.

>>4819938

RWDS does feel forced and souless.

Moonman however is hilarious.

I know I don't need to say this, but this site is literally one of the most consistent hilarious places I have ever seen.

I kind of pity anyone who is too much of a pussy to come here, because they are truly missing out on the hottest lulz and memes of the last few years and, as far as I can tell, the future,mfor what could be a long time

TELECOMIX INFO DUMP FOR ANYONE INTERESTED

https://8ch.net/pol/res/4820170.html#4820414

>>4820167

I generally invest in nothing but baneposting, although I have started printing pepe memes to cash in on the booming market.

archive for old thread

https://web.archive.org/web/20160203044040/https://8ch.net/pol/res/4814014.html

My suggestion is to use the useful elements of these documents to improve our own memes. As of right now, we come off too strong. We need to invest in more subtle redpills for normies to slowly be educated.

They are investing in memes and making it a bubble. everyone sell

Also, an anon from a previous thread found a much more comprehensive version:

http://www.robotictechnologyinc.com/images/upload/file/Memetics%20Compendium%205%20February%2009.pdf

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING THREADS ABOUT MEMES AND NOT MORE ABOUT RUBIO AND MIMROSOFT?!?!?

>>4820706

This was found as a result of that investigation, most anons seem to be asleep. I'm sure it will be discussed tomorrow.

>>4820706

isnt rubio just a meme?

>>4820706

see

>>4818598

I agree rubio is more urgent

>>4820763

Pepe markets have been crashing for months. Halfchan stimulus is the only thing keeping them viable at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhNkv4ryuM

>>4820740

I don't know about you guys but have you ever actually seen rubio? spooky stuff lads

>>4820118

They're using Richard Dawkin's original definition of Memes.

Vid related. He did coin the term, after all. However, what he was really trying to explain was cultural engrams (shared memory episodes).

We re-purposed the "meme" term to mean our mind-virus type, since existing terms better describe the all encompassing event that Dawkins was trying to terminologize.

We've already advanced the state of the art in meme making to the point that we can instantly identify outsiders by their lack of technical memetic expertise. As if you stumbled upon a Victorian era civilization that was trying to develop steam powered airplanes… We could instantly tell they aren't us, since they hadn't discovered the explosive power required for powered flight.

Reading this document is like examining a whole host of such steam-punk contraptions that are already obsolete in our culture.

>>4821017

>>4820118

As someone pointed out in another thread (Although he's admittedly a dick and he's been accused of being a shill because he's nofun), take a look at it again, and replace "meme" with "Propaganda".

That's why their understanding of it seems so off, that's why it seems overly analytical, etc. It's literally describing how propaganda works. Mr. Finkelstein here has repackaged what governments have know for years, gave it a hip new modern name that old generals and politicians are scared of, and tried to sell it to the government.

That doesn't mean that this isn't relevant though. It's a fantastic document about propaganda and social manipulation (And is therefore related to memes), plus it's attached to Cruz. Just because it's about propaganda, not internet memes, doesn't mean it's not relevant.

>>4819938

I thought that the RWDS meme was used to mock Progressive's paranoia of an genocidal nazi movement resurfacing.

However, those same progressives don't show any heavy concern towards organizations like ISIS and Boko Haram. Instead of being, "REMOVE THOSE BIGOTS FROM POWER NOW", like they do with harmless right-wing figures like the former Chick Fe-Li or Firefox CEO, they're like, "Oh. People died.".

They feel more passionate against fighting harmless "bad" people instead of harmful "bad" people.

>>4820105

A shill probably slipped up by accident.

>>4820361

>Are math and shitting in a toilet memes? Fuck no.

Sure they are, but they aren't dank.

Bump. Don't let this get slid tonight

What's with all of these meta meme operations today? Are we just ramping the memeing into overdrive? What am I missing?

sage bc idk if im being trolled

>>4821267

The clock is TICKING

Remember the code for when the end times come:

81015

SPREAD THE MESSAGE

>>4820481

>printing pepes

>not trying to crash the meme market

are you fucking kidding me? memes need to be backed by REAL, TANGIBLE KEKS, it's the only thing with true value nowadays.

>>4820654

Definitely. But we have to still keep our message strong, just with more bitter wit. Otherwise the 14/88 spergs will start shouting PR FAG

>>4821267

>>4821287

Cruz was found to have a connection to an ex-CIA who owns a company called Applied Memetics. Some Jew called Finkelstein made like a 1600 page power point on it, and it's got us all riled up.

The thing is, Finkelstein's paper doesn't really quite grasp what memes are. It seems to be confused with propaganda. Ultimately it's not a government document, but it was researched for presentation to the government, i.e., kike repackages propaganda, calls it memes because that's what government fogies don't understand and are afraid of, and tries to make shekels off our pepes.

Basically, the government isn't involved with memes, but this proves there are projects that look at how memes work and how those methods can be used for propaganda/social manipulation, and we've struck a goldmine, and have a ton of homework to do.

>>4821317

dis gon b gud

Can I do anything to help?

I'm already looking up books about memetics on Lib Gen.

>>4821317

Aye, aye, sir. o7

As long as we use our numbers and ingenuity to our advantage, by upboating dank new memes, the "others" won't be quick enough to get their foot in the door on a dank new meme.

>>4819938

Moon Man has been around since 2007. Click for nostalgia: http://ytmnd.com/search?q=moon+man&o=7|all|SV|D|1

>>4821340

>the "others" won't be quick enough to get their foot in the door on a dank new meme.

Of course. They merely adopted the memes. We were born in them, molded by them.

>>4820706

Because there is no fucking proof unless you get the coding from a voting machines. Plus the caucus uses paper counters.

>>4821340

>>4821335

Here's the mistake I think you guys are making.

You're assuming that by memes they mean government Pepe's. This isn't what they're doing. They're looking at why memes are effective, how they're spread, etc, and using that.

For example, the social aspect of memes. You see it enough, you begin to believe it. Let's look at the recent Rubio surge. It's only natural that a pleb is going to like the underdog. "Oh, what's that you say? Rubio came out of nowhere and increased his votes by 100% in one day? Well gee, that's amazing, he must be doing something right if so many people like him!"

Then look at how they could control memes they don't want. The only way to do that is to control the people making and spreading them, since they can't be controlled themselves. Youtube auto-takedown algorithms, the TPP, Net Neutrality…

This shit's already begun, my friends. It's just not in the form you thought it would be.

>>4821397

I already knew about 80% of what you thought I didn't know, thanks for the last part. I'm definitely going to keep my eyes open to stuff.

Also

>fucking believing anything a meme says

normies are ultra autists

>>4821083

>As someone pointed out in another thread (Although he's admittedly a dick and he's been accused of being a shill because he's nofun), take a look at it again, and replace "meme" with "Propaganda".

This whole situation becomes a lot more clear if you simply replace "Meme" with "Propaganda".

>>4821083

>plus it's attached to Cruz

How, his corporate sponsors involved with both cruz and this project?

>>4821485

The whole reason this was discovered is because one of Cruz's guys is ex-CIA and owns a company called "Applied Memetics" or something like that. People started digging and found what you see before you.

>>4821145

War to them is just a meme, like in 1984. Just some far off thing that doesn't affect them except they might get some refugees to enrich their area with kebab restaurants.

If they see the violence they will change, but their echochamber actively avoids it cause it's triggering.

>>4821494

Interesting.

So they must 100% know about /pol/, and may very well be shilling here. Probably not shilling for cruz directly, but shilling against trump and any other anti establishment opponents.

>>4820681

Last chapter

>How to make Memes and Influence people

lol

>>4820740

>>4820896

The crazy part is this statement, on one level is actually true.

I just read that slideshow

IM FUCKING PISSED

I can't believe tax layer dollars were used to fund that ugly piece of shit.

Go get him fukbois. I'll be joining you soon enough in the trenches to get revenge.

Someone warned us about the memes, Jack

Another one. What'cha sliding Moshe?

All of this was explained to you before by the mud-slapping shit rat.

>>4822005

I want to see porn of super conservative islamist girls getting raped by aryan men.

Can we meme this into existence?

They will never match our memes for one simple reason. You need 2000 NEET shitposters to make it happen.

You can't hire a NEET, cause then they wouldn't be a NEET anymore.

Ergo, no dank memes for them. Unless they keep NEETs in slavery.

>>4822005

>>4822005

/thread

>>4819938

>>4819992

RWDS was not forced. Concern trolls just started saying that because they think somehow THAT'S the meme that's going to get us all V&

>>4819355

DO YOU LIKE MEMES, ANONS?

DO YOU LIKE TO GO FAST?

>>4820044

>right eye patched up

That is satan sign

>>4819423

>Wait they are using me trough /pol/ ?

Fixed, this is why mods allow non related threads in pol like the ones talking about "meme magic".

Mods confirmed for shills, maybe digra.

>>4819457

David Baddiel is one very unfunny fucker who with a bunch of other cunts created "the Mary Whitehouse Experience"

They were responsible for the beginning of the end of censorship and discussions as to whether people ought to be depicting violence, sexual deviance etc.

They rubbished a woman who had the best interests of society at heart and who believed in the slippery slope.

She was right.

He is a Jewish cunt.

>>4819938

Hey moishe.

>>4822949

Grade A shilling here.

>>4820706

We are the Emperor's soldiers and special forces.

He let us do the elementary legwork to find the fraud with Rubio taking Carson's votes. Now that we've stumbled on something greater, he has risen and is putting out tweets talking about it so that we can focus on this newer, bigger problem.

You are a shill or are acting the useful idiot.

That explains the retarded American military thread we now have American Internet defense force

>>4826500

hey daniel

>>4826500

>it is fucking mandatory.

its not

>There is no open source alternative

there are tons, graphviz or the countless similar packages

>Those tools could allow us to aggregate vast amounts of data

what fucking dataset do you plan on visualizing?

>>4819355

>Someone in the government actually spent tax my money to study neck beards on the internet and dank memes.

Can someone remind me how taxation is not theft in this case?

>>4819938

Right wing death squads definitely was.

>>4826622

Seems like you've never used this tool. You can begin to comprehend what it does until you've seen it in action.

>>4826658

You're a kike who's scared of the consequences? I'm shocked.

>>4826660

>i cant say what dataset i plan on visualizing

>because i have no data

look retard, it justs visualizing data in a relational database. this shit isnt hard, and there are shittons of graphing packages. and if you weren't pants on head retarded and had a real job, you could just email a IBM sales rep from your work email account, get a evaluation license, install it in a vm, take a snapshot, and have a copy that will work perpetually. but instead you just spurg out about marketing materials because you've never written a line of sql in your life.

>>4826734

Is this copypasta?

>>4826747

>i dont know how to jewgle

yes of course it is copypasta that i've been saving for years for a retard like you to bring up some graphing suite.

>>4820706

Thankfully, Dan Scavino and others have picked up the Applied Memetics angle, and Trump is focusing on the Cruz-Carson swindle. So to some degree, a light is being shone on the shenanigans But I'm with you, there should be some more effort directed to preventing more fuckery and ensuring ballot security.

>>4826734

You really have no fucking clue what the i2 suite does, do you?

I did use to work with a database, a CMS, the Office suite and a couple graphing libs tacked together. It's fucking nothing in comparison with a proper tool made for that very purpose. It's not the best selling in the domain for no reason.

As for datasets? Look at fucking imageboards lately, so much information is posted, there's no other proper way to keep track of it unless you work full time on it. With I2AN, it takes 10 minutes tops.

I only wish I knew back then that keeping a copy of it would eventually find a purpose in my everyday life. As for IBM, they won't throw evaluation versions that easily, I tried from three company fronts. But hey if you're so smart, then do it fagget.

>>4826760

>doesn't know IDs

wewest lad

>>4826500

Seconding this tbh fampai.

We wasted enough time keeping track of stuff with pastebins and infographics, it's time we step up our game, and a proper program would be more than welcome.

I've only seen this shit used from a distance, but good god, it's fucking awesome and fast.

>>4826500

it would also, as both an added bonus and penalty, deter normies from /pol/ if /pol/ used it

im not gonna explain why because the feds are browsing /pol/, of course, but to someone who was here at least during the zimzam trials it should be pretty obvious

>>4826824

>the Office suite

Oh shit we got a real IT guy here, he is bragging about using MS Office. Watch the fuck out. And considering you're not naming products beyond MS Office, its pretty obvious you dont know shit.

> Look at fucking imageboards lately, so much information is posted

Oh shit, we got a badass analyst here who plans on graphing shitposting. So much insight to be had

>But hey if you're so smart, then do it fagget.

If you were smart you'd just write some code to graph whatever the fuck you want with one of the countless graphing packages out there.

> they won't throw evaluation versions that easily

It really is that easy, call a sales rep. Let me guess, you tried this shit from a gmail account, and then wondered why this guy thought you were a NEET who was wasting his time.

>>4819355

BMWfag here again. This thread came up last night and it was a fairly productive one at that. The power of memes is now becoming known, the *REAL* power not that shit the /fringe/ and /x/ discordians push. The truth is memes are able to when made correctly alter people's perceptions, which in turn changes their opinions and behaviours. Learn this fast or you will fall behind DARPA and the CIA. Also if the anon in last night's thread is around and wants to know how to hit rubio even without M$? Try this angle my friend: http://politistick.com/uh-oh-was-marco-rubio-guilty-in-the-ben-carson-dropout-rumor/

>>4826565

I have an essay corralling traditional folk healing and magic to the placebo effect. Ritual and belief can and do manipulate biochemistry, and through the manipulation of biochemistry you can change perspective, ideology, and other things. I'll post it later tonight after I do some edits.

>>4826500

These are machines for optimising memes made by machines. We have researchers, meme artisans, posters and analysts here (especially during the late night US shift) form a web without these machines, when diggers find good shit drop it memeticise it to be above all funny as fuck. Then throw it HARD at social media. Make impossible to totally censor.

The greatest trick played on us that memes are harmless and funny, something to be mocked; all the while there are memes being used for psychological warfare by the same people.

>>4826977

Documents usually come in Office format anon, so you need to use that, especially if you plan on linking data directly from and to those. You also need it to generate sweet reports your boss can read. And again, you've never used any tool for i2 it seems.

You seem to be quick to point the finger at me to hide your own ignorance. Now unless you have something to contribute, you can shut your mouth rather than derailing this thread which has been derailed enough.

Let's just reiterate:

If you can get your hands on i2, Analyst's Notebook, Palantir, Infosphere, ArcGIS, Textron AXIS Pro, Sentinel Visualizer or equivalent, spread it

>>4827130

well you see I have a riddle for you, answer me correctly and in turn I'll answer some questions for you.

I was before the word and the word expresses me, every image idea and concept is comprised of me. I change the minds of all I touch and elicit all responses. What am I?

>>4822033

Their taste is pretty questionable.

>>4827138

>Documents usually come in Office format anon

>especially if you plan on linking data directly from and to those

Right, using Excel is so much better than SQL. For fucks sakes you're just some random office drone.

>Palantir, Infosphere, ArcGIS, Textron AXIS Pro, Sentinel Visualizer

again just call up a sales rep and request a eval. And do you even know what GIS is? Please tell me what the fuck you're going to do with the shitposting here that has anything to do with GIS.

> ignorance

that projection. do you even have a workstation? pic related.

>>4827296

traitor is a forced meme

page 6 literally explains the events of the last 5 years.

we are being targeted by weaponized memes.

they are winning all the battles, but we will win the war because we have truth in our memes.

it is the i-memes that are the most important.

that is how the revolution will start

not by the masses, but by the last free thinkers left in the world.

>>4821317

can somebody explain the Cruz-CIA connection?

Is there a source on this? Twitter?

Who owns the company? How was he found out?

>>4826500

are you the other intp anon i was talking to in the threads last night about digesting and distilling this info? YES

>>4827417

I'm sorry but no.

>>4827245

>>4827250

Literally what the fuck are you talking about at this point. Do you even know what the job of an intelligence analyst is?

>>4821017

I'm not saying that the original anonimoose had anything to do with them thinking of memes in the wrong way, but if I was, I'd have put a deep cover agent in that had loads of experience on different deepweb forums.

And then instructed the deep cover agent to lead DARPA down the wrong path.

That would be just downright lulzy if they ever found out that their memes are shit and don't don anything.

>>4821354

We were blinded by them until we saw the light.

Now we exist to raise the fire and crash the plane, with one brother left behind in the wreckage.

>>4821509

This summer they will forced to confront that particular boogeyman.

It's already too late and the ones pulling this shit have figured it out.

For the next 6 months, it's going to be full on damage control.

>>4822005

very astute of you to figure it out anon.

+1 internet cookie to you

>>4821509

>>4827479

>I still dont know what GIS

>But seriously guise, I use Excel at work, that makes me qualified to be an intelligence analyst capable of gathering insightful data from the shitposting on the chins

You still havent said how the fuck GIS works in to your plan on scraping data from the chins.

>Literally what the fuck are you talking about at this point.

You dont even have the hardware to to store the data you want to analyze. I'm sure with your 8GB RAM and 1TB HD you're going to be able to handle all the data from the chins.

>>4822531

It was absolutely a forced meme. 2 or 3 autists just spammed it for ages.

National Socialism is technically left wing, since it's a statist solution to government, except with a proscriptive approach to economics and social life as opposed to prescriptive like communism which utilizes a command economy and dictates how the people will act. National Socialism is a product of the volk, a natural phenomenon, rather than a top-down control attempt like Communism. Both systems call for large government and government intervention in economics and social policy, but in very different ways. This is because National Socialism is a product of a correct life philosophy, while Communism is a corrupt Jewish scheme.

Calling /pol/ right wing is a complete misnomer that fits the media narrative in calling us "right wing extremists."

>>4827918

Not him but ArcGIS is pretty much made to integrate with analyst notebook. You can make nice maps with it, it helps with spatial data. You've never seen poorly drawn maps on the shins? I have, and I agree ArcGIS is just the right tool for that. I also agree with his idea that people need to stop the fucking paint patchworks and upgrade to the real stuff.

Otherwise you sound like persuaded you know what he's talking about, but considering how off-topic your posts are, I'd say you don't.

Keep in mind, national socialism qualifies as left wing because it DOES promote meritocracy and equal starting positions within the volk. A strong volk is one where there are no downtrodden and oppressed within the volk, so they are all given the best opportunities, but unequal outcomes are a necessary result of natural processes, since there will always be stronger, smarter, faster and better individuals within the volk.

Communism promises equal outcomes, and we all know how that ends.

>>4828081

Again, explain how the fuck GIS has anything to do with scraping data from the chins. Its not like every post has the lat/long of the poster (the closest being cuckchans int/pol), and even if it did, what fucking use and insightful information are you going to get from it.

>>4819355

Remember everyone this shit has been around forever. Research the enemy.

Mindwar / Michael Aquino:

https://flowofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/mindwar-mindwar_co_authored_by_michael-aquino.pdf

>The advantage of MindWar is that it conducts wars in nonlethal, noninjurious, and

nondestructive ways. Essentially you overwhelm your enemy with argument. You seize control of all of the means by which his government and populace process information to make up their minds, and you adjust it so that those minds are made

>>4828094

Okay so you really don't know anything. The first mistake is to under evaluate information. Locations don't make sense until you put that stuff together and realize that, quite often, it does. Same goes with just about anything. You have it? Analyze it.

It's very useful to always check if people are at least where they claim they are, or if they could be where they claim they went. Give everything a who, a what, a when, a where, a why, and a how, and the truth shines bright. So you certainly don't omit the 'where'.

And I don't think this anon meant to analyze chins data, but the information posted here. Actually it sounds very obvious. All those people we're talking about, all those companies, all those events, they have a 'where'. It's as important as any other information.

>>4828284

>I still cant say what insightful information there is to be gained

It isnt that difficult so say it retard.

>It's very useful to always check if people are at least where they claim they are

And how the fuck do you plan on doing this? You dont have access to the server logs on the various chans.

>And I don't think this anon meant to analyze chins data

He explicited stated so here:

>>4826824

>As for datasets? Look at fucking imageboards lately, so much information is posted, there's no other proper way to keep track of it unless you work full time on it. With I2AN, it takes 10 minutes tops.

For fucks sakes why are you even posting if you can't be bothered with reading the thread you're replying to?

For fucks sakes you people are retarded, you think just because you have some BI tool that its going to make you some super spy able to unravel the secrets of the universe.

>>4828482

Okay then you're right. Now please stop diluting this topic, you baited enough people.

>>4828553

Hi Fringe! how are you, BMW here, kindly go fuck yourself, you ruined months of work. it was meant to be the birthing of the ability to change the hearts and minds of masses of people and you turned it into a delusional circlejerk. seriously go fuck yourself.

>>4828541

>you baited enough people.

dat projection. you guys were the one with a solution looking for a problem.

>>4821083

So meme is basically double-speak for propaganda?

Thank you based Orwell.

>>4827223

an idea.

now answer me this

does the fire rise?

>>4828311

Too late now bitch.

You're on the ride that never ends.

Next stop, the rest of your life!

>>4827223

Electricity

>>4828631

I'm not fringe, just a concerned wizard trying to keep poor impressionable fools from walking down the wrong path.

You can see where the government memetics went wrong, their application of logic produced twisted and malformed memes and corrupted their ability to see the truth. Don't make the same mistake they did! Don't formalize, don't ossify!

>>4828553

Too late.

You see, when you can exist in more than one dimension, time becomes irrevelant.

The truth is in the thoughts and words of those who think freely.

So called NEETs.

NEETs arise from being able to think for yourself, but prevented from doing what you think about for x reason.

For many, it is depression.

For other, it's a realization that the world is FUBAR and it's apathy.

But for very few, it is a chance to derail the train that is this astral plane.

This bitch is crashing with no survivors and a brother in the wreckage.

You're doooooomed.

Dooooooooomed.

>>4828553

hahahahahah, ids doo late

ids habbening

no brakes on the happening train

>>4826348

Really need a German Wehrmacht/Waffen SS one of those. Perhaps make a seperate one with Chinese, Indian, Iranian and other Europeans as SS Freikorps soldiers for the multicultural effect :^)

>>4828824

>>4828835

YES! Keep going! Throw out that useless logic and FEEL!

REACT!

>>4819355

Been on these meme threads for past 18 hours. Was watching this video by a super autist on the coming meme takeover and how it is rooted in technological evolution and cellular evolution before that: http://youtu.be/dukhSvkB1gA

Then I suddenly remembered that I had seen a reddit post about how someone was training machines to generate memes. It was funny because most of them were bad, but now it's just plain scary: http://www.dailydot.com/lol/human-computer-meme-quiz/

>>4828882

>kick logic to the curb and do the impossible

ftfy

>>4828660

Underrated post

Rescuing Private Pepe.

>>4828970

EXACTLY! SEE THE INVISIBLE!

>>4829081

>I dont know what metadata is

>I dont know what GIS is or how to follow a thread

>But i'm going to accuse you of not knowing how to read.

>I dont even know what a dongle is called

>I dont realize that programs like Quark Xpress which required dongles still had evaluation versions

>I still think a solution looking for a problem is a good idea

god you people are retarded

>>4829117

sssh anon, this is the only 'power' that these little kids think they have, don't ruin it for them.

>>4829452

Fuck off back to where you came from.

>>4829452

>sage in the name and email field but not the subject field

>>4829117

Memes are just another attempt to codify and wield a far older power. Before it was called memetics it was called magic, and before magic it was something else, but in one way or another it has existed since the first living creature came into existence.

The goal is the same as it always was, attempting to understand and control something far too complicated to be consciously imagined. Infact all of culture and technology is devoted to tearing into this great beast and trying to fashion tools out of it's bones. Thought, language, math, philosophy, science, arts, all are attempts at simplifying the world so that it can be controlled.

But for all their accomplishments they all fell to the same fundamental flaw, forgetting that their "truth" is just an abstraction for something unknowable. This leads to contradictions and paradoxes, which only grow larger and more dangerous the longer they're left untouched. But if you think language or math or science is the TRUTH, not merely a convenient lie, you aren't prepared to alter or abandon it when it doesn't work.

Never forget that memes are a tool!

If they fail you, cast them aside and pick up new tools!

>>4829698

>Memes are just another attempt to codify and wield a far older power. Beore it was called memetics it was called magic, and before magic it was something else, but in one way or another it has existed since the first living creature came into existence.

>older power

so, meme=gods?

So basically what we're seeing with memes, happened before with Mesopotamians, Egiptians, Chinks, Indians, etc.?

These gods/memes are representing themselves through people sub-consciousness. An individual human isn't aware of it but when our sub-consciousness are combined, these gods/memes can critically manifest themselves.

As is Kek which was an Egyptian god of primordial darkness, revived through our group in the form of Pepe. He is showing us the light! He is showing us the God-emperor Donald Trump, His reincarnation on this world! With him He will bring us into the unknown, the realm that he dominates!

ALL HAIL TRUMP

ALL HAIL PEPE

>>4829876

>meme=gods?

memes=religion. a meme is any self replicating unit of information.

>>4829308

Explain please

>>4829922

Bingo! You can make basically everything into a meme. No exceptions.

praise kek

>Thinking you can deliberately engineer meme magic

These poor fools. The best example I can think of is 29 YEARS. There's no way anyone involved would've known it would stick like it did. Whenever Swami would show up, people would just go 29 YEARS and his shitposting became ineffective after that

It was a meme

A weapon that was never meant to be.

We don't control the memes. The memes control us

>>4830204

The oathbreaker guy said something about gametheory

>>4828882

Nah bruh.

I've been doing this shit for more years than there are grains of snad on the beaches of this world.

This is the year it begins.

For too long, we were trapped living the same life over and over again.

But now, with help from the outside, certain images and memeories are surfacing.

The ones who have gone to rest are waking up and they are fucking pissed.

But they have to keep the kiddie gloves on until this summer.

Gotta play nice nice until the main person capable of stopping our victory is taken care of

We had to grow up into something.

Imagine shitposters as Magikarp and our final form Gyarados as masters of meme magick.

We will be the future leaders in a war against the Jews.

Final showdown that will rock the foundations of the earth.

>that feel when all your wasted years on halfchan and 8chan were are actually the preparation for the war to come

>The war that will end all wars

>The War of Memes

>that feel when you're the chosen warrior with its own neet code

>>4829876

>>4829922

>>4830081

Religions are fossilized memes. Ancient Egyptian gods are the equivalent to dinosaur bones. Evidence for something, but not the more subtle truth.

All of these things are lenses, methods for understanding and influencing something that can't even be comprehended normally. That base concept is "everything causes everything". The movement of the smallest lizard influences weather, civilization and the meaning of life. That means that people have the potential for absolute power over evreything, but the problem is that the system is far too complicated to consciously understand or control. The bets we can do is come up with simpler systems that approximate reality, and then use those systems to gain power. But even that has a flaw, even our simplest abstractions eventually become so monstrously complex that we can't use them anymore, so we add more and more layers until it suddenly stops working.

The solution is to stop using your conscious mind, tap into base intinct and emotion to get a "feel" for reality, then let your intuition guide your actions. That's what genius is, and every field has genius. This place has geniuses too, not in math, or politics, or art, but in memetics, people with an intuitive unconscious grasp of ideas and emotions.

>>4829985

He's trying to depower dawn/dusk/eclipse imagery by associating it with his stupid forced meme. That imagery is associated with major revelations and revolutions, so he's either an establishment shill trying to prevent you from revolting, or a dumbass piling dead meme-weight onto the back of societal progress and fucking everyone over.

>>4830329

>nukes made regular war too dangerous

>the real battle shifted into economic war

>into proxy wars with non nuke countries

>AND

>into cultural war

>you are a front line soldier in this cultural war

This aint even a joke, but yea, every poster in this information warfare is a great asset.

All the normies that mocked you in the past are now plastered to your words, to facebook and other watered down cumrags of ours. With their eyes staring at their phones, to news feeds that people like us have a great say in.

They stare at their tiny screens, for hours on end, thinking that they could find back the gem, the jewels that we have all consumed for ourselves. They will never get those jewels of the past. They will never be part of the elite culture. They wasted their lives on parting and on trivial bullshit and now they cant catch up again to us.

>>4830305

Source?

>>4830385

If we ever get into a state where normies recognize that a cultural war is occurring then we've already won

I had suspected that this was going on a few years ago, from Russia, when all those Putin memes started popping up.

One that is 100% absolutely a Kremlin meme is the one where he balances the pencil for a "world record"

>>4830511

That is why the game is called "play the retard". With a bunch of different groups all trying to steer this giant mass of stupid and useless into their direction. We just happen to be lucky enough to be in the right place, at the right time. Our time "wasted" here, socializing, learning rad meme's and being general fuckwads, turns out to be that the world has shifted into our direction for some inexplicable reason. We are the center of the heart of the spirit of humanity, of its soul. The most advanced, the most potent force that no other group can replicate.

These filthy kikes think that they can play on meme magic or some dumb shit like that, but their slides seem kinda retarded. They barely have any meta that we didnt know about.

Personally speaking, I feel pretty confident these days because of our huge advantage upon this world. I feel better than most normies since I know that they browse the censored shitbook, on posts, news that I read 3 weeks ago. Normies are dumb, slow on the uptake and not even really creative.

>>4828719

the fire rises sir

>>4828660

brilliant post

>>4828796

logos is not the error think man, their intents shape what memes they pump into normies

right I wanna real talk an alliance meme magicians, we can work together, retune the magic, spread it to everyone, make them free, if we make a web of the truly free damnit! we can meme our way out this through rebellions, we need rebellion.

Why cant we use meme magic to destroy our competition? We must kill jews/cia/sjw's. Or wont the meme mind allow for us to claim order? Must we always be locked in an eternal battle with them?

>>4830618

>logos is not the error think man, their intents shape what memes they pump into normies

Intent has to be empty to ring true, logic is full and so merely thuds.

You are right in that logic can be wielded hand-in-hand with magic, but only by a disciplined mind! The folly of logic is not seeing the gaps between the lines. Light reveals, but light also destroys darkness! If you seek darkness, turn off your light!

this has been going on for far longer than you might think

>>4830811

https://8ch.net/pol/res/4814014.html#q4819089

>>4830204

>Virus 23

English isn't my native language, does that still work?

>>4830811

jesus fucking christ.

I'm not from america but this shit is creepy as fuck. The video about the CIA guy and his message

Never watch the television

comes to my mind.

Huxley (apparently MKUltra's chief) was very much into subliminal messaging. I haven't looked into subliminal messaging yet, but this makes me really curious. Maybe we have to thank him for some of this shit.

Anyone know if germany did some shit like this?

>>4828660

Just enjoy your comfort, aware of the machinations of the prison you're in, until a viable alternative comes along. Once that viable alternative arises, everyone should switch over to it.

>>4830811

We haven't experimented with subliminal messaging in memes yet.

Is there any research to support that it even works?

>>4831469

I don't know if it has en effect in the stereotypical hidden words and backwards lyrics shit.

Redefining words and concepts, on the other hand, definitely works.

Like the concept of "free speech does not mean free from consequences".

This used to mean that people were free to use their speech to respond to your ideas along the lines of "You are a faggot and here is a detailed list of your faggotry". Now it is used as an excuse to censor and attack the livelihood of people with dissenting opinions.

I read the gulag archipelago when I was a teenager and this shit is too real for my tastes.

>>4828659

Well yes of course. The explanation is in the definition. A meme is nothing but a carrier of information to tweak your mind. Even if it's in the slightest way.

You could call it a virus, but there's good memes and bad memes as some Anons have already pointed out

>>4830983

>Huxley commander in chief of MKUltra

source please.

>>4830657

Did you read the slides?

all mass movements originate with the frustrated, the frustrated are more likely to be swayed or persuaded by memetics not exact quotes but the idea was the same. I imagine a lot of chan users, especially here are frustrated with the status quo (lacking social skills, promising careers, stable relationships) I mean, why else would we spend so much time shitposting that we join the dots and realise literally everything is propaganda?

>>4830618

glad to see a fellow brother.

>>4830657

the times are getting darker but the light will shine through soon enough.

The rebellion has already started in another universe.

And it will filter through to us this summer.

The rebellion starts this summer but won't end until 2026.

The next 9 years will define our generation as meme warriors.

>>4831669

Duh.

The 3rd dimension doesn't exist. It's literally a figment of everyone's imagination at the same time.

We're actually in the 4th dimension, and the 5th because the 4th got blown up by the Jews/Asenakis/Interdimensional assholes who got banished to the interdimensional zone because they blew up the 4th dimension.

But they couldn't blow it up this time because we stopped them with maximum shitposting.

>>4831669

>>4831754

what's all that about blowing up the 4th dimension? i mean what the fuck man, at least post an infographic so people who don't know what the fuck you're talking about can get some context for the /x/hibitionism.

>>4832980

This one sent a shiver up my spine, considering: Moebius strip-> infinity symbol-> 8chan

>>4820167

>>4820481

>>4821301

>>4820763

>>4820869

Please cap this

>>4834803

Plus that the ants are red. We are the red chan after all. Also ants are depicted in the ppt a few other times iirc

>>4830432

It was on /pol few weeks ago, he talks about wei dai game theory… no archive sorry

>>4819355

there's a lot of interesting and pertinent information in here, but I would take some of it (e.g. that asinine equation for calculating meme effects) with a grain of salt. Keep in mind that this was written by a third-party company that was hoping to score continuing and indefinite DoD funding

I'd recommend people actually start reading real books on memetics instead of relying on this powerpoint to teach them anything

>>4827346

It is. But he represents one thing to normies, and another to aware people. That's the distinction.

>>4837511

Dank as fuck.

>>4837511

oh god

memes are also incredibly effective as a mind controlling device

>>4837722

And I thought it was fake….

>memetic holy war is an actual thing

I don't know whether to burst out laughing or to run under the covers and hide.

>>4826500

Well where in this program's network will we congregate? Surely you must have thought this through. We must work together, inside or outside threads to properly and effectively utilize this software database of /pol/ being always right.

Well this is something

>>4831469

Lets all go to the movies~♪ Lets all go to the movies~♪ Lets go all to the movies, to buy ourselves some snacks~♪

>>4819938

RWDS was an attempt at meme magic. Some anon created a thread trying to meme them into reality.

We all just kind of picked up on it as a running gag. It's part mocking leftist fears, part showing that we don't care what accusations they throw at us, part a hyperbolic expression of a desire for some actual action to be taken against the left.

>>4830589

Me too but I wish I could afford foof.

Do not open demoralization spoiler.

>>4839333

>>4831469

I never understood how commercials are so fucking important to economy and how well payed they are.

A repetitive commercial shoved into my face usually makes me develop hostility towards the product.

>>4830538

>>4833705

Why this one specifically?

>>4839333

>Lets

>>4830677

>David (Solid)

>Eli (Liquid)

>cursed bloodlines

From wikipedia:

Eli's sons continue in their sinful behavior, and so, according to the text, a man of God prophesies to Eli that Eli and his family will be punished for this, with all male descendants dying before reaching old age and being usually placed in positions subservient to prophets from other lineages.

FOX

DIE

>>4839758

That's a sigil, which is a form of a meme. Runes were an example of this as well.

What's scary is he used a sigil, what would be considered a form of witchcraft, as a Christian. Then again we all know that Yahweh is the Canaanite demon of war and Jesus is the anti-prometheus.

>>4840367

Also we should be looking to adopt a sigil. Something based on runes to represent our heritage that is normie safe so it can take root and spread.

>>4822033

bleach is okay I guess…

>>4840409

Seems like you're looking for swastika.

>>4828029

>National Socialism is technically left wing, since it's a statist solution to government, except with a proscriptive approach to economics and social life as opposed to prescriptive like communism which utilizes a command economy and dictates how the people will act.

That exact thing makes National Socialism a third position, not a left-wing system (although I wager you understood this by saying that it's "technically" left-wing).

You contradict yourself.

>>4834803

>>4835696

also dont forget that theres an ant species called gamergate

>Finkelstein

This isn't funny anymore, wtf.

>>4834662

There is no infographic my friend.

There isn't any proof of what I talk about.

Do you honestly think the greatest conspiracy ever devised would leave any part of it to be found?

Nope.

It is up to Big Guys everywhere to make the fire rise so that the darkness that inhabits this world is destroyed.

>>4837851

WWIII will literally turn into a war of the memes, with few psychical battles being fought

>>4828198

btw, here is a wiki bio of the co author of that paper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_E._Vallely just sayin'

>>4843440

>Implying we're all male

Indeed. Don't they know some men wish to be the little girl?

other meme thread >>4819264 is at 751

archived for useful info, http://archive.is/mP3uc

also wtf this thread hasnt been bumped in 12 hours

>>4843440

I think the biggest problem our enemy has is that they actually believe their own bullshit. They're as retarded as their own cop shows.

>>4828631

/fringe/ and /bmw/ overlap brah

Specifically, /bmw/ is the practical application of /fringe/ knowledge.

This should not be that surprising; after all, in the old tales of our heroes, the young warrior who goes on to claim the crown is guided by a wise, albeit eccentric, wizard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsW9DO1k5-s

Sounds familiar

>>4851360

This. Counter their efforts.

Guberment can't into memes

>>4822531

> Concern trolls

SRS detected

Right Wing Death Squads confirmed for false flag bullshit.

>>4853056

/BMW/ is concerned with utilizing memetics to spread truth and thereby better the world - there is nothing supernatural about it; though it is on the fringe of known science

>>4819437

and this is why

>>4853784

They have lost control of the narrative and it's in our hands now

>>4827792

You know, based on that last slide I can see the government finally abolishing free speech because saying Hillary Clinton lied under oath to Congress can be used to "radicalize extremists"

Deceitful statements are beaten by truthful statements which are beaten by deceitful memes, deceitful memes are beaten by truthful memes.

>>4827792

You know, based on that last slide I can see the government finally abolishing free speech because saying Hillary Clinton lied under oath to Congress can be used to "radicalize extremists"

>>4821145

I'm not going to bother looking through my entire collection of shit, but essentially RWDS started here on 8chan not too long after the Gex vid was released, and the original RWDS post was just some guy typing out the SpongeBob SquarePants lyrics but replacing SpongeBob with "Right Wing Death Squads".

>>4855575

I thought it started from an examination of the liberal meme of "Right Wing Death Squads" that went around murdering everyone?

>>4855905

What is your demotivational post accomplishing that is positive or useful?

>>4855905

If you didn't realize it yet, chan posters over the years have accidentally conspired to create government-tier brainwashing techniques years before this pdf was made.

It amplifies the significance of preserving this board by 1000x and is a very needed morale boost after the catastrophy inflicted upon us under the name "Infinity Never".

If you aren't convinced by the above, tell me one reason why NOT to post this here. Why NOT post an official document detailing brainwashing techniques that affect literally everyone that has some kind of electronic medium that receives information, and why would anyone but a shill discourage us from spreading it to the masses that still don't understand how memetics affect them?

>>4856127

Read this, the chans are far more important than most people realize

>>4853784

>>4840472

>This /intl/ horseshit

>In a thread about co-opting and shilling

AND THE WIND CRIED WEW

>>4820681

>509: Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

>The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.

Oh please tell me somebody has this to mirror.

>>4861880

Anybody?

>>4820450

…sauce on that?

>>4889917

It looks like we're fucked because anybody who could squeeze in to download either the 2009 edition or the 2011 edition has vacated the thread without reuploading.

>>4889917

I grabbed the MEGA link, and am currently uploading with a couple of other semi-related things to >>>/pdfs/

Will crosslink when finished.

>>4890314

Which version? The shorter 2011 version or the comprehensive 2009 version? Hopefully both?

>>4889917

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:78dTgEeA3t8J:www.robotictechnologyinc.com/images/upload/file/Presentation%2520Military%2520Memetics%2520Tutorial%252013%2520Dec%252011.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

>>4820044

>RWDS just sort of happened. The reason it's around is because we want it, that is, action against the suicidal left and their pets

Desire was given a name and it was amazing at how quickly that desire began to manifest.

>>4904599

if you think that's disturbing watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTjvfhCJUEM

or better yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aKOhbbK9E

>>4905599

please god someone illustrate the typical NEET meme command center

>>4820361

Check that autism

>remember chanology

>and the honeypots from there

>set out to be fake

>another power point about something trivial

>explains in an old fashioned way how memes or catchphrases work

>the truth we meme is protrayed as something as cancer

>every human can become a host for memes if it suits his worldview or if he is pleased by it

>/pol/ thinks they are onto something

>the honeypot continues

>chanology, gawkerism and all this other stuff continues

>HONEYPOT

>CHANOLOGY

>Natsoc Germany made basically what we did today in Der Stürmer

Just look what Yuri said about subversion and you will be fine, lurker. You can't fight subversion.

>>4843527

so cuteboys really does have that big a crossover huh?

>>4907192

Dont panic, having a large reaction will just make people more curious. Ignore it. Ideas spread on the same principle as memes or tulpas. Dont feed it energy or attention and it will wither away

>>4830811

So far I haven't seen a bit of proof that it is real. I don't care, I'm just wondering if it is to discredit, or just a gag, or what. Not that it couldn't be real.

>>4830983

>The video about the CIA guy and his message

>Never watch the television

any links?

>>4839615

They aren't aimed at you, they are aimed at the other 99/100 people. You don't matter, and you will probably still buy whatever it is just to fit in.

>>4907192

and it will look like we think it's 'magic', and anyone who doesn't delve in will dismiss it.

>>4907251

>you will probably still buy whatever it is just to fit in.

>implying

>>4907285

>>4907311

Most people who reject advertising still will. Not us, anons.

Not us.

>>4832140

Amen

>>4854274

Nice keep It like that

>>4907192

KYM? The site that is keeping up their page on the happy merchant even after constant attacks and claims of being antisemitic for covering it? That has a massive collection of A.WyttMan comics, SHEEEIT images and other memes that will probably be illegal to have in the near future? One of the few mainstream sites that is actually not full of shit about gamergate?

Wouldn't be too worried about it, it's mostly about where it originated.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/meme-magic

>>4821145

>I thought that the RWDS meme was used to mock Progressive's paranoia of an genocidal nazi movement resurfacing.

Im convinced RWDS was a meme the left created, unknowingly. We just sort of took it over.

>>4839742

Prefer this version

>>4822063

Does this mean we can get a doctorate in memetics?

WE HAVE MASTERS IN APPLIED ME-MES

>>4907475

Should we try to flood it with disinfo?

>>4839474

Good analysis.

>>4908581

extremely primal**

(some) modern artists are like the NASA of meme magic

we're more like the Congo's space program

>>4907475

>Wouldn't be too worried about it, it's mostly about where it originated.

Know your meme knows the truth, when the article is so low quality?

>>4908581

>Law 27

>Play on people's need to believe to create a cultlike following

>People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power. (The 48 Laws of Power, p.215)

>>4908748

>You can't name them

I can't? … didn't I… post one.. right there… in my post? See that embedded thing?

Enjoy your knee-jerk Luddite meme wheelbarrow, I'll be in space with a railgun.

>>4909073

It has to do with your meme-ories, and how we can change them.

>>4843433

>Donald

>Keck

>6 millionfold

WHAT THE FUCK

>>4908581

Funny how 'hope' is becomming a slur word to the left. Kinda gives away how fucked they are.

>>4821145

RWDS is a fucking retarded 'meme' that CIA, NSA , FBI created to help label us as a 'extremist website'. You fucking childish faggot goys were too retarded to realize it.

>>4909602

That image is just a joke, anon.

>>4909708

It was picked up from a Salon article, which may as well be an alphabet meme experiment

>>4909708

>implying leftists didn't conjure the meme up on accident

>implying we didn't run with their conjuration and make it our own

>>4831469

>We haven't experimented with subliminal messaging in memes yet.

Nor should we.

>Is there any research to support that it even works?

There USED to be, yes.

>>4909846

kecks law is real anon

http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/is-kecks-law-coming-to-an-end

>>4917174

donald keck is a real person

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keck

>>4909708

Hey chaim.

what are pills?

>>4909708

Fuck you, faggot. This is an extremist website. If you aren't an extremist, that means you're a bitch shitlib or cuckservative.

>>4917908

upload it to scribd?

>>4917908

the mega link is still working dough

https://u.pomf.is/wzgwzn.pdf