/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

That knowing smile from Melania! Donald confirmed for practising BDSM on Melania.

MUSLIMS BTFO

Maybe he will genocide their desert cult.

>>4873950

Hopefully we'll go full fucking medieval. You fuck with us and try to kill us? That'll cost you a hand.

>>4873987

…..on a generous, kind-hearted day

>>4873950

Better than Pershing's method?

>>4874002

Make Journalism Great Again

>>4874006

Daily reminder that Vlad the Impaler did nothing wrong.

>>4874006

>>4873950

MAKE WALLACHIA GREAT AGAIN!

>TRUMP, DESTROYER OF MUSLIMS!

This has nothing to do with the quote?

>>4874122

>adding a ? at the end of a statement

kill yourself nigger, I hope you get something worse than waterboarding too

>>4874173

No, I mean it has nothing to with the actual thing that trump said, stop being an edgy faggot.

>>4874239

He knows what you meant, just that you put a question mark at the end of a statement(where a question mark serves no purpose), which is something that unrelenting faggots do.

>>4874269

I did that so someone could actually point out why everyone is saying "Trump is the destroyer of all muslims", but I guess not.

what kind of training should I get to have the best chance at getting hired as an official Right Wing Muslim Torturer?

>>4873997

That's how you keep sand niggers in line.

>>4874370

Nice autism faggot.

>>4873995

Not yet…

>>4874534

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>>4874580

>death by turtle bites and poisoned tomato-less guac

truly a fate worse than hell

THE VIDEO OF STUMPING

CAUTION:WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK, STUMPING RESONATES WITH WEAK SOULS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thl45hkCFlc

>>4874580

>tied up in a basement being force-fed guac with no lemon or lime in it by The Goblin while small turtles nibble at your toes and you're being forced to watch over 2,000 hours of Jeb's never-released stand up comedy tapes on repeat

Tbh pretty disapointed in trump's pro torture platform.

>>4874847

This tbh. It will only radicalize more Muslims.

Donald Trump: He still has trouble answering many questions, and his answer to the "how" question (asking to provide specifics) exemplified that. But here's what I like about Trump: He can handle the negativity from the audience. They booed him roundly at one point. - Todd Graham, director of debate at Southern Illinois University.

>>4873950

He probably saw the movie "Unthinkable" and thinks he can make it reality.

"You'll find out" is not an answer and is not Presidential. It's things like that which will cost him the election.

He needs to fucking shape up and get a god damn speech writer and debate coach.

>>4874883

>(1)

>>4874927

>>4874940

hueheuehuehuehue

>>>/int/

>>4874948

>/int/

heh

>>4874948

>>>/oven/

>>4874953

>>4874956

>more /int/-tier banter

>>>/trash/

>>4874973

>>>/facebook/

>>4874902

Wow, coward much? Should we dismantle the entire legal system because some innocents may accidentally be punished? No, you're probably not on a watchlist and no scary letter agency is coming to torture you. It's hilarious that you think you matter that much and are pissing yourself over the thought of torture.

>>4875024

Something like 3 million people are on the no-fly list, which is a terrorist watch list.

Educate yourself about the state of the national security apparatus.

>>4874902

Don't lump me in with that crap. I'm voting Sanders.

Also, nobody is on any government list for posting here. Stop pretending you're important.

>>4875044

>no-fly list

>terrorist watch list

it is a good thing I'm not on the no-fly list.

>>4875050

>There are zog shills everywhere

>Nobody is on a watchlist and nothing matters

Riddle me this one, comrade.

>implying Bernie administration wouldn't be like getting tortured

There's a group of people in the middle east. They say they're our allies but I don't think so. I don't think so. They are funding ISIS through backdoor banking channels. Not when I'm President. These so called "allies" will soon find out there's much worse torture methods than waterboarding.

>>4875044

http://www.no-fly-list.com/

You can check if you're on it or not.

If you're not on it and you post here, then >>4874902 is a delusional liar.

>>4875071

>Trump will win because his opposition is absolute trash.

Trump will lose because he can't answer a simple question with a straight answer. Americans got sick of that shit from Cheney and his cronies.

>>4875084

Website is misinformation, of course.

>>4875090

When Trump wins & makes America great again, imagine me laughing at you.

>>4875084

I used the no-fly list as an example, because Anon poo-poo'd the idea that there are watchlists, even though there is at least one with 3 million people on it.

>>4875091

http://www.noflylistcheck.org/

So try this one.

But, of course, if it's not hidden clandestine shit, then it MUST be disinfo. /pol/ is so fucking paranoid that it's hilarious.

>>4875097

When Trump doesn't even get the GOP nomination, I will be here laughing at you.

/pol/ is always wrong.

>>4875093

You will be the first to get tortured, not just by Trump, but by Satan and his minions for all eternity.

>>4875102

Yea, it's paranoid to suggest that known liars may be lying.

>>4875103

/pol/ has never been wrong.

>>4875109

Believe what you want, kid; but don't believe for one second that /pol/ is even close to any federal agency's radar. This site just isn't that important.

Stop pretending to be more than you are. It's unhealthy.

>>4875097

>Look how edgy i am i promote torture.

>I also like to imagine myself to be part of the winning team, this clearly makes me superior.

pathetic.

>>4875111

>>4875103

Clearly /pol/ is a multiversal entity.

>>4875115

Its actually on the reportable docs for sites you have been.

Check out the SF86 form and what you need to fill in.

>>4875124

Yes, if you're trying to get national security clearance, they're going to check on you and monitor you.

Nobody here has national security clearance.

>>4875135

Lol how are you so sure faggot.

>>4875135

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

You are really deluded kid.

But to quote a certain Venetian.

I know what you know that I know that this conversation will go as well as starting a land war in Asia.

>>4875138

You're actually unironically posting that monkey?

He shilled against Trump.

He called Brother Nathaniel a worthless heretic.

Then screamed like a retard.

>>4875143

Because this website isn't on any national register. Freedom of Information Act is a bitch, ain't it?

/pol/ just isn't important.

>>4873950

You'll find out…

5 MINUTES LATER

Hey Nick how is the Gas chamber going ?

Build it a bit bigger we will have a lot of customers.

>>4875144

>But to quote a certain Venetian.

He was Sicilian.

>>4875107

>implying there is a heaven or hell

It's fucking darkness, nothing but pitch black, I've been declared dead before and witnessed it.

>>4875153

Prove you aren't still dead, bro.

>>4874902

Your salt is delicious, Achmed.

Is it from Black Sea, Red Sea or the Gulf?

>>4875172

You're gonna get gassed in hell for all eternity, m8

>>4875149

Actually you want small chambers, lets you use less material and deal with less waste.

Anything you use to gas with, you have to deal with when its done.

So you want single person chambers and large rooms to mix the gas to a nondangerous level before expulsion.

Depending on the gas as well, you could make a close cycle chamber for it and just evacuate the gas chamber, flush it with fresh air, evacuate that as well, then shove your victim in and reflood with poisoned air.

>>4875098

> there is at least one with 3 million people on it.

It sounds like a rather small list given there are 1,5 billion Muslims.

>>4875176

Should put a floor that slides open when the gassing is done that drops the bodies into a fire pit.

>>4873950

Wow the shills derailed this thread quick

Trump should try being waterboarded sometime. 22% of Guantanamo Bay inmates were innocent… For years NOT ONE prisoner had a trial, many had been there for YEARS being tortured without a trial or even being told what they're accused of.

As someone who values liberty, I cannot support this.

>>4875180

It's not just Muslims on the list. A lot of North Koreans are on the list as well.

>>4875172

>Brother Nathaniel IS a worthless heretic.

>protestant calling an Orthodox heretic

Uhmmm... bro...

>>4875189

Can you link one White person on the list?

>>4875187

>non-citizen of the UNITED STATES OF FREEDOM

>trial

topcuck

>>4875175

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

>oh wow sounds just like Catholics with their works salvation

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER?

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

PAPIST MAN-WORSHIPERS BTFO

>>4875190

Works salvation = another gospel = heresy

>>4875197

Cat Stevens used to be on the list. I think they removed him, though.

>>4875176

>>4875183 >This

Throw the bodies into a fire pit

And to not waste any oxygen make a big swirly slide. WEEEEE to the gas chamber

Once the victim comes down oxygen door closes gas door opens so we will have only to refresh the air in between oxygen door and gas door. That way we get to gas more people more efficiently.

>>4875202

>everybody was wrong for 2000 years until my idol set up his own fanfiction group in the backstage of a stip mall

Cool story bro.

Quoting a few random verses without context just makes you look like a retard.

>>4875202

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

>>4875210

>Cat Stevens

Well his last name is Islam.

>>4875239

Yusuf Islam is the name he adopted, but it didn't change the fact that he's a British white man.

>>4875156

>>4875180

You live in a fantasyworld if you think that hundreds of three letter agencies and more than a million DHS employees concern themselves only with people that you don't like.

>>4875183

Unless its very well insulated, the combustion products and heat if you are sadistic, would interfere with your operation.

Better plan is just bullets, machine gun them en masse so you have less issues with psychological trauma from the individual shots.

Best plan is back to starvation and work to death. Rampant disease from a removal of support.

You need to rethink of what does mass killing in the past.

Mass fires in whole building, sinking ships, mine collapses.

The whole gassing thing is actually a wonderful little meme to reinforce the Holohoax narrative. Look at the guys pointing why its didn't happen in WW2, where the effort is and time taken.

>>4875213

Slide into incinerator, use an auger to just pull the remains out. You aren't in it to burn them to ash, just to death.

Superheated air causes blistering and wheeping of the lungs, they drown in their own fluids. Cook the brain and they're ready for a Papa New Guinea festival.

Gassing is very much not effective, look at its war time use.

>>4873950

USA! USA! USA! USA!

>>4873950

Land of the ~~Free~ Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875247

I just wanted some irony is it too much to ask for.

>>4875251

Are you just posting random verses? Because you don't make any sense.

>>4875093

Look, heretic, I am a proud Catholic, and not only would I never wash a Muslim's feet, I think that all Muslims in Western nations that have committed crimes against Christians and/or whites should be publicly impaled. The rest should be chemically castrated and sent home, or shipped to Israel.

Just because your "church" was founded by some guy rather than by Jesus Christ doesn't mean you should disparage the real Church. (Disclaimer, I also consider Eastern Rite and Orthodox to be valid and hope that all Christians can unite against the filth that are subverting and invading our lands rather than fighting each other .)

Land of the ~~Free~ Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875257

It wouldn't be a Trump thread without redtext

>>4875247

Ooh … could easily set up a single shot assembly line, very similar to beef slaughter houses.

They have that down to such a science that they slaughter ~41,700,000 cows per year! Pretty impressive. Way better than the Nazis did and they were masters of efficiency.

Land of the ~~Free~ Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875266

Now i believe we are getting on to something

Land of the ~~Free~ Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

Land of the ~~Free~ Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

Land of the Free Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875257

Fuck of Moishe

Land of the Free Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875278

You have to go back, Ahmed.

>>4875280

Third time's the charm eh bud?

>>4875251

>Baptist

>>4875261

>Catholic

And, hey, I'm a Methodist (Wesleyan). Congrats on us announcing our church affiliation. no1curr. Get back to the topic at hand: How to most efficiently kill political dissidents … because that's what /pol/ … is … all … about.

>>4875284

>Calls me Ahmed

>While spamming all this

Gas yourself

>>4875288

I don't know why crossing out bold text doesn't work.

Land of the Free Slaves

Home of the Brave Cowards

>>4875292

You have to gas yourself, Ahmed.

But not before being waterboarded just kidding, it'll be worse than that

>>4875297

You were missing a "~" on the word free multiple times.

>>4875244

>Yusuf Islam is the name he adopted,

>white

>>4875303

When he converted to Islam, he changed his name. Changing religions doesn't change your genetics.

>>4875258

You'd have plenty of iron in your blood if you got fit.

>>4875261

I believe directly in speaking with God and going from there.

>>4875266

Bad plan.

Anything involving each person being touched by another person is bad.

You want to dehumanize and reduce it so they aren't people.

Shifting masses, hordes of cattle, etc…

Propaganda does not work well enough to leave the issue behind.

You'd want to basically train the victims in, and then force them along with as little human interaction as possible.

Like, have the car flippers for paper mills and ore unloading used, you just dump them all into cement caves and move on. Right into the incinerator or ball mill even.

Hell the ball mill would be good. Just dump them in, grind instantly, move the remains some place to dry out and condense.

Perhaps feed straight into a bioreactor to make methane for combustion.

>>4875299

Waterboarding is actually pretty bad.

Its unending drowning. You don't get that peace where the air is gone and you become serene, euphoric as you start to die.

Its just the pure panic and terror moments as the water endlessly pours in.

>>4875299

>Still calls me Ahmed

>While spamming land of the free slaves and of the cowards

You couldn't tip your fez harder if you wanted to Mohammed.

>>4875313

Don't call me Schlomo if you don't want to be called Ahmed, Ahmed.

I am not the one who is advocating the abolition of the constitution and the implementation of unamerican Leninist torture practices.

You want to torture people? Move to Turkey or Saudi Arabia you godforsaken vermin.

>>4875314

>America was always a liberal shithole

Not until WWI. When we started getting into the corporate side of war, we had to figure out a way to placate the "gibs me dats" otherwise we'd never be able to generate the revenue needed to be a nation in a perpetual state of war.

>>4875246

>implying every patriotic White American soldier roasting kebabs is consciously a ZOG tool

Contain your butthurt, Abdul. I know there's a good chance that we'll end up bagged and tortured if Shillary wins but I have full trust on the God Emperor that the laws will be used to their spirit and it will be only mudsies that will get what they deserve.

>>4875298

What, you mean France, Germany, Austria, Italy?

Yeah, real shit holes historically.

Remember you needed French papist help to crush the anglicans.

>>4875314

That's actually why we came up with art deco in the 50's. Colored acrylic, neon, chrome, geometric cutouts with contrasting form and muscle cars.

Its rather nice to look at, but you realize it really is just shiny glimmer parts to make up for the fact that we had no culture before. Lots of other people's culture parts, but its like playing with LEGO and pulling apart the special pieces versus using a 3d printer to make something.

>>4875319

Same semitic shit they are and i consider them. Ahmed's and Mohammed's are the muscle Shlomo's and Chaim's are the brain.

>B-but Muh torture

They brought it upon themselves.

>>4875314

The moon shuttle.

inb4 but durr the germans created it

>>4875325

/int/ plz. You are trying too hard.

Sage for doubleposting

>>4875322

>Not until WWI

Your founding fathers were Alex Jones tier liberals hell bent on destroying the evil empire that taxed them terrifying 1%. And the king had to go, das oppressive. Americans in general spit in the face of tradition and have so since US was funded.

>>4875325

Lawrence v Texas is what removed all anti-sodomy laws and that was Rehnquist's court.

>>4873950

probably pork based punishment.

Applying pork to normal muslims results in anger and eventually they get over it.

Applying pork to extremist muslims removes their will to live, they will not enter the kingdom of heaven with their best buddy allah with his 9 year old wife aisha.

It's fucking genius, but i understand wanting to keep a lid on it until he gets elected.

>>4875335

Actually, up until WWI, this country was basically western expansion mentality and a boot-strap ideology. You staked out your land and if you couldn't protect it, you died.

>>4875339

Religion doesn't change your genetics.

I dare you to prove me wrong. Are you white? Declare shahadah right now. Did your skin suddenly turn brown? No? boom. winning.

>>4875328

Actually Christians are the muscle.

There's fewer Muslims than Catholics.

The only reason you even care about Islam as a thing is that you were told its a threat to you, one that means you need to give up all your freedom.

The US isn't under threat from Al nasur, from MILF, from ISIS and the other several thousand groups.

Yet all the Muslims around them, the 300 mil in Indonesia, the 150 mil in the ME, the 10s of millions in Africa, and in south Asia.

Yeah they're in trouble.

You just bought sweet little kike lies, sang you softly into your own demise.

>>4875327

That's actually interesting. Art deco looks much better than any other contemporary styles. It's a shame really, that it never took off. It may have been successful if it went on for a while and refined itself into something traditionally american. Instead it ended up being a fad. Shame, really.

Now all the eurocucks ganging up on America.

Daily reminder that all of your "traditions" come from India, North Africa and the Middle East.

>>4875348

>muh skin color

Illyrian please get removed.

Embracing Islam is a full rejection and sacrilege of everything European genes stand for, not just for the individual but for his entire future cursed lineage, and deprives a man and his whole family off his Whiteness more than any mutagen would.

>>4875357

At least they didn't come from the negro.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/10/negrified-america/

>>4875350

1.1 million muzzies is a pretty big number for one

>Islam

>Not a threat

Have you been living under a rock the past 1500 years ?

And even if you don't know the history of these dirty muzzies don't you see what is happening in Europe right now?

I'm starting to see a pattern:

>Trump says something awesome

>A shill shows up and starts a religious argument

Usually it's posing as a fedora, but this time it's posing as a baptist.

Clearly the goal is to split /pol/ along religious fissures.

>>4875084

>clickon any name

>redacted redacted redacted

>>4875357

That's some pretty imaginative DnC shilling right there.

I love Trump, but this is the one thing he's said that I cannot agree with or think 'meh, he's saying that just for votes'. Maybe there's a case for torturing people you have already fairly convicted in a court of law for exceptionally evil crimes. E.g. torturing kikes and traitors convicted of organising 911. But that's not the same as torturing suspects for information. Torturing suspects is sick, stupid, and doesn't work.

The CIA and other government agencies stopped torturing people as a method of interrogation in the 1970s not because they are kind-hearted, but because their psychologists and interrogators proved beyond a doubt, over thousands of cases over many decades, that torture doesn't work. When you're tortured, you will say ANYTHING to make it stop.

There are MUCH better ways of gaining information - including a menu of options like psychedellic drugs, moderate sleep deprivation, phsychologically-trained interrogators, physiological lie detection, clever interrogation techniques, psychologically playing-off prisoners' against one another, threatening to hurt their families, etc. That works very well indeed.

They reintroduced torture after 911 purely in order to FABRICATE evidence that supported the ISRAELI LIES ABOUT 911. That was its sole purpose: TO TORTURE FALSE CONFESSIONS OUT OF PEOPLE, TO HELP BRING ABOUT ERETZ ISRAEL.

That's what torture has always been used for, by those who know how it works, and what it can do. Torture has only ever been good for extracting fase confessions, or instilling fear.

THAT IS WHY THE CIA WAS FORCED, BY THE WHITE HOUSE, TO REINTRODUCE TORTURE BY OUTSOURCING IT TO ISRAELI-CONTROLLED PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS. YOU DUMB BASTARDS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT, DO YOU? HOW THE CIA WAS NOT IN CONTROL - OR EVEN PRESENT, DURING MOST INTERROGATIONS.

Fuck the people saying torture works. Fuck the people joking about BDSM or making light of torture. THEY ARE DOING THE KIKES' PROPAGANDA WORK FOR THEM. REMEMBER THAT.

>>4875393

How is it DnC?

We have eurocucks shitting on americans in this thread, do we not?

>>4875407

Shitting and telling the truth are different things. There are many good american people. But american culture is inherently degenerate.

For example, national socialism, which so many americans on /pol/ love is not compatible with american culture and will never be successful in the US.

>>4875400

>torture doesn't work

You faggots always say this, but the Romans used it to extract information for centuries. A slave's testimony in court couldn't even be considered unless it was given under torture.

Can you admit it does work, and some shitty psychology professor doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about?

>>4875338

Its quite nice as well.

Government does not belong in the bedroom, nor should it care what I put in the missus mouth and ass or her in me.

>>4875353

The issue was it had no resonance.

Its the same why trying to put western values around the world fails.

Culture is the amalgamate of your people, not something created.

Dictators try for their strongman cult, only the ones that bathe in blood succeed.

All else will pass away.

Basically, it fell into the hippy era, then into the zoot suits and disco, then the modernish grunge period.

We've actually stagnated in that no new dominant culture has arisen, rather just many have. Its real nice as you get what you want, sucks as you don't get much of it.

>>4875380

I see Europe killing itself over a population less than a city, brought in by the lies of their leaders, to make a crisis by manipulating the people.

You strike the refugee, he becomes violent and is put down like a dog. You accept greater control to stop the next dog arising.

The refugee needs to be kept safe, the rise of radical right threatens them. you have control placed on you to "safeguard" the public.

Islam has nothing to do with it, just your own foolishness and unwillingness to address the issue.

You act as though indonesia is coming out and bombing you.

Surprise, its not.

Your leaders betray you, they use the silver tongued devils, the KSA to play their game, to bring about the end of the world where they seek to be masters.

Their plans will fail, they know this, but they have new plans, new tries to fail at.

When do you revolt oh son of the sword? When do you rise up and claim your future in fire and blood? Why do you sit and point an accusing finger from your gilded cage at those who might actually become your master through toil?

You have no birthright, only what you take and keep. Around you is the sound of those who take, but will you let them keep?

>>4875407

Shitting on Americans might be wrong but it's not as uncharacteristic of /pol/ as spouting slanderous revisionism against our common mother-continent, Schlomo.

>>4875373

>European

Turks are European, you dolt.

>>4875413

American culture is not degenerate, that's not the truth. American culture values freedom, healthy relationship, frankness in conversation and rebellious will.

And no, the ones who love a failed ideology like national socialism are fools who must awake reality.

>>4875361

I'm Methodist, you moron. Pay attention to the thread.

>>4875433

That doesn't change anything about the post. Its all true.

Are you a papist sympathizer? Do you need to be taught? We can go through the scriptures

>>4875432

/pol/ is the antithesis of everything America stands for and was built on.

Just look at this thread: Trying to figure out the best way to kill and/or deport anyone they don't like.

>>4875421

Civilization started with the north african and semitic world, it's not revisionism.

The egyptians and babylionians were building huge cities 4000 years before the european manage to copy them.

>>4875438

/pol/ is not a hivemind.

We are not all nazi worshipers here.

>>4875437

You really don't want to get into a Scripture throw down with me. I will send you home crying to your mama.

>>4875432

Europeans love freedom. Americans fetishize it. They go too far.

Americans are too individualist, too blunt in conversation and loud.

Rebellious will is french revolution tier. Into the guilotine with it.

So really, everything you say is basically the reasons why US ain't good.

>>4875456

Sorry that we are not all brainwashed slaves like you.

>>4875453

>heretic

Still pretending I'm Catholic? You've already lost.

>>4875459

Not new at all. I just don't tow the /pol/ hivemind line.

>>4875438

America has never been afraid to kill people it found threatening to it.

Fuck, one of the laws passed under Adams was the Alien and Sedition act, which criminalized foreigners and speaking against the government. Men who signed the constitution voted for that law.

>>4875441

>/pol/ is not a hivemind.

They want to be. Just look at the standard Bingo card for /pol/. "Call him a Kike!" is the #1 answer to anything they don't agree with and they will continue to say it over and over in larger and larger text until the echo chamber is safe again.

>>4875439

Some of the oldest urban and megalithic settlements in the world are in Britain and the Balkans, Chaim.

>>4875462

>Alien and Sedition act

Didn't include killing anyone.

>>4875420

>Islam has nothing to do with it

Here is where you are wrong

I will give you even more shadow of a doubt and say that you haven't red what their own holy book says about what to do to "infidels" ( you and me ).

>The rise of the radical right threatens them

Good good. Maybe they will go back to their countries and fight the ISIS they so much "hate" instead of shitting up our own countries.

>Acting as though Indonesia is coming out and bombing you

No more like Ahmed invading and try to enforce his bullshit on anyone. Muzzies always were invaders.

>>4875472

Didn't say that, but you started out by calling me a heretic. You've already lost.

>>4875473

Source?

Where are the ancient brit pyramid?

>>4875468

Well, I'm still on /pol/ and I refuse to belong to this hivemind.

>>4875475

Fair enough. But ask the Sioux if they think America was a bunch of pushovers.

>>4875485

Jesus spoke to a Samaritan woman in Sychar about eternal life. She wanted to talk about the correct place to worship God. Was it on Mount Gerezim as the Samaritans believe or in Jerusalem as believed by the Jews. Jesus answered her plainly, "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22)

>>4875495

Oldest doesn't mean shit if they have created nothing of value.

Where is their big city? Their mark against time?

>>4875485

When some early Christians claimed that the Jews had no advantage, the apostle Paul disagreed with them. "What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God" (Rom.3:1-2)

>>4875481

Not a pyramid, just stone-built settlements using basic masonry. Use google.

Also Mycenaeans.

>>4875468

Man you think that Turks are European, Muslims can be White and you admitted voting for Sanders. It's no surprise that you are bitter towards /pol/'s agreements since most likely everyone thinks you are an irredeemable moron.

>>4875438

America was born from the fires of the French and English wars, tempered by its dislike for anybody not them, and calls out that the future of the world is handed to them by God under Manifest Destiny.

Nah, its rather well in tone when you see how the US treats its lessers and natives.

Its just people love to hide themselves, to dab perfume on their ass rather than clean it. To hide a festering sore under their clothes and say its not an issue.

But then, so to does everyone else. The US isn't special in the world, nobody is.

>>4875478

Which Imam's interpetations of the Koran are we discussing?

Is it supported by a council of 12 scholars?

Do you want to talk about the idealized or of one of the many sects?

Ooh how about the fun of the tribals mixing it in like the pagans and the Catholics?

And yes they are leaving, seems they can't though until their paperwork is finished. How odd they also aren't allowed to get a job until then either.

Its almost like somebody wants them to be disenfranchised, to not be able to integrate or have reason to like the country.

Trapped, no future, they are supposed to go feral and be violent.

Oh yes, invading.

Which is why they run all the WTO, the world bank, police the seas and invade countries so unilaterally, they are still broken today.

No they fight, they war, but they do it amongst their neighbors. Your mistake is to believe your own propoganda, to see them as the enemy you must vanquish, and the one in your own home.

Please, tell me how Hezbollah began. Tell me where Al Queada came from, the Taliban.

Go ahead, there are many wrong answers here, most of them the public story.

>>4875503

>if it doesn't have a big city it's worthless

That's a perfect description of a pompous american way of thinking.

There isn't a big city, but smaller settlements and a very long cultural tradition.

>>4875495

Thefuck is happening?

Are reddit mudsies astroturfing, /pol/?

>>4875520

>you think that Turks are European, Muslims can be White and you admitted voting for Sanders

At least I express myself without fear while you hide behind some orange dude in a bad wig.

>>4875520

>>4875530

In that way, I guess the niggers really were the best civilization then.

No technology, just small villages out of nowhere.

>>4875531

You're an idiot. The central region highlighted in the map is south west Herzegovina which is predominatly catholic, not mudslime.

>>4874847

>Tbh pretty disapointed in trump's pro torture platform.

Oh no, he's going to torture shitskin jihadists, won't someone please think of the savages?

>>4875527

You can always spot an arab because the grammar falls apart into a half-insane rant about how everybody is out to get them.

>>4875187

> 22% of Guantanamo Bay inmates were innocent

They were Muslims therefore not innocent. All of Islam is at war against all of the non-Islamic world, so there's no such thing as an innocent Muslim.

>>4875538

It took niggers Arab contact and up to 1000AD to build an equivalent of European neolithic settlements not-so-Great Zimbabwe.

Also we had some of the largest post-Glacial glaciers and a semi-continental flood to deal with while the Fertile Crescent and the Delta Nile were enjoying the best environmental conditions humanity had ever known.

>>4874902

>quotes people who are disagreeing with trump

Watch who youre quoting you lazy piece of shit

>>4875577

That's no excuse.

History is what it is.

>>4875202

Neither through faith nor through works are you saved, but only through God's Judgement. Suck on that Catholics and Protestants: profess your faith all you want, thump that Bible, do good works, none of it matters if God judges you unworthy.

He'll glass the whole Middle East

>>4875419

It doesnt work. That's why we have an adversarial court system instead of an inquisitorial one. Christ i like trump but you newfags are making /pol/ dumber every day.

>>4875544

>former Ottoman territory

>Catholic

Jesus might forgive but double turncoating for bootlicking new masters doesn't bring your Whiteness back, Alia.

>>4875584

>History is what it is.

Agreed. And it's widely known that Europeans made history their little bitch since 500BC.

>>4875610

Egyptians have already made history in 4000BC, and the babylonians, the pheonicians.

Europeans surpassed them, but americans surpass the europeans.

>>4875439

>The egyptians and babylionians were building huge cities 4000 years before the european manage to copy them.

Egyptians and Babylonians were Caucasoids.

>>4875623

And? They are still not europeans.

>>4875621

>Europeans surpassed them, but americans surpass the europeans.

Partially agreeable, but their lack of a solid cultural basis starts to show how vulnerable they are to cultural marxism.

>>4875553

Cute.

You can also tell a pompous jackass by their bragging, an interest in avoiding the questions, and how set they are in their beliefs.

>>4875577

Its actually rather interesting how some places built up, though the research is better.

Africans failed to develop a sense of time, their seasons were consistent and land did not suffer much in the way of seasonal fruit and then dead. This actually lead to them lacking the part of the brain that controls time and its perceptions.

That you can tell a nigger because they can't work out a series of cause and event actions and gradients.

Its rather fascinating in that regards.

As to the lack of civilization, its much like with slavery. You adapt to the enviroment and call it good.

Slaves were plentiful and cheap, there was no reason to use the steam engine in their place.

When the slaves dried up and Euros got a sense of shared values, the steam engine was suddenly a good idea that should be pursued.

Those who don't adapt die, like much of the American southwest natives dying off to the long term droughts.

You may as well ask why the Abos of Australia went nowhere, while the Polynesians went around he Pacific.

Civilization and tech are not some grand march, they are tools to solve problems, and like you losing a tool in your garage, so to are they lost in time.

>>4875593

Foolish goy, Israel is there and he would not touch his masters.

>>4875632

Europe by far is more vulnerable to leftist bullshit, as evidences to how pozzed the european population is.

>>4875468

Hey outsider, if you dislike us so much, why are you here? Oh yeah, you're a consensus cracker.

>>4875631

Neither are ancient Persians, Tocharians and Brahmans. That doesn't make them less of our racial brothers.

Also Babylonians were typical Semitic thieves that hijacked White culture (Sumerians).

>>4875631

They weren't the shitskins that live in the Levant or Egypt now, either. They were white-skinned individuals, many with red hair, not brown-skinned black-haired savages.

>>4875648

This is some we wuz king bullshit.

>>4875650

White-skin doesn't mean european.

>>4875635

>This actually lead to them lacking the part of the brain that controls time and its perceptions.

Living in the equatorial does that to your mental evolution.

>>4875607

The Bible is the words of man, edited and compiled by councils motivated by worldly, temporal political concerns. Christ is the Living Word. Maybe you should try worshiping God and quit making an idol of the Bible.

>>4875675

This is when God becomes muh feel.

>>4875654

>White-skin doesn't mean european.

Genetic testing on mummified remains from Egypt and the Ancient Levant show that they and modern Europeans are closely related.

>>4875084

>http://www.no-fly-list.com/

>Domains by proxy

>>4875102

>http://www.noflylistcheck.org/

>Domains by proxy

Do you enjoy phishing? You know it's a federal crime (class 1 felony) to use the federal governments logo and what you're doing constitute fraud and impersonating a federal official.

Welp, enjoy what little time you have left anon.

>>4875679

>This is when God becomes muh feel.

Ah, but when a bunch of ancient politicians write their feels down in a book, that's the word of God? The Word is written in the hearts and minds of all Mankind, but few are those who can read it.

The Estonian blog news which belongs to the Swedes is panicking. It's glorious

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>>4875688

>>4875689

And you blame the darkies, you guys are the same shit.

Instead of just respecting ancient civilization, you have to make them european.

>>4875696

If so, worship your own fucking heart, for God is just a symbol of it.

>>4875640

Come on man… you know how important is the special snowflake title to tumblr. Don't trigger zer.

>>4875696

Either they had Holy Spirit in them when compiling the Bible and Catholic/Orthodox churches are therefore right or your religion is based on lies. Good job on debunking yourself.

>>4875655

See you are missing the point here, blaming the religion for the decisions of man.

When hurt, do you blame the bandaid? After all you turn to it when in need.

Islam is abandaid, its turned to for offering corpral benefits and power. It fills in the whole left by our rotten society, it gives a unity and purpose that is missing.

You fail to grasp that as sinners, man will naturally do evil. The police do not report, the migrants see they can do as they please. Same as people who speed, pirate, and any other of the many crimes and sins.

You are also missing another point as you admit yourself, not all go and sin so prodigiously. But you say they do, as the numbers are not alarming when looked at in that light.

You desire invasion, a conflict where you can show people.

Instead you get some >10% of assholes fucking it up and have nothing to show for it.

Violent rape and penetration becomes leers and gropes.

Attacks against them are just firebombs on empty homes, faked grenades.

You have a desire for a clash, this fight.

But your enemy is gone, they are no longer country on country, just people being people.

You just aren't interested in admitting people sin, and will sin. Because it damns us all and makes it hard to raise that voice when you are with blame as much as they are.

>>4875679

Its a good feel, but when you can point to the Koran, Mormomon, KJV, all the many texts and views books, you realize its rather farcical.

>He says while walking into his Westbetyrian church.

>>4875707

The difference is that we actually provide scientific and empirical evidence. Even if our case is not true there is still no reason for racial and historical insecurity within Whites you are still backpedaling from every argument you made when we rek your shit and then recycle your debunked arguments.

>>4875716

I'm an agnostic/atheist, I don't realize on religion or book to tell me how to act.

And I wish all of your islamic piece of shit get tortured to death.

>>4875716

>But your enemy is gone, they are no longer country on country, just people being people.

How tolerant and progressive!

>>4875712

>Either they had Holy Spirit in them

Have you ever been inspired by the Holy Spirit? God doesn't put words into your head or write through you, that's Muslim tier hubris. One can receive instruction from the Holy Spirit, experience Divine Revelation, but when one attempts to communicate that in words back to humanity, it is lost. The gold turns to ashes when you leave the sacred ground.

>>4875731

That sounds heretical. Can I have a source or did you invent that?

>>4875722

As said, white people does not mean european.

They can be related or shit, but in the end, they are north african and middle eastern, and not european.

>>4875729

Behold, I am different by acting the same.

>>4875751

That's because that's what you fuckers deserve, no matter if you ask a pagan, a christian or an atheist.

>>4875738

>muh loose geographical ethnonym doesn't 100% pinpoint to the racial identity of people it refers to

Cool mental gymnastics. As expected from a lefty..

>>4875762

I'm right wing, I just don't take achievements from other people and substitute it as my own.

>>4875768

>I just don't take achievements from other people and substitute it as my own.

So you're socially left-wing

>>4875772

A right wing person has dignity and does not resort to stealing.

>>4875757

This. Some people are objectively stupid.

Unwarranted contrarianism doesn't make you seem enlightened and independently-thinking, just like retards smearing their faces with their own feces and snubbing "the hiveminded plebs" over not embracing the joys of scatophilia.

>>4875757

And yet you desire to say you are better?

No see we are the same, lusting for all to burn and die.

You turn on yourselves and devour, just as the Tafkir scum. Blade on neck forever is where you will be, while singing praise of how great you are.

This world is of pigs, and all are swine. Allah show no mercy on any of us.

>>4875776

So as I said, socially left-wing.

TRUMP IS CURRENTLY SHITTING ALL OVER GEORGE STEPHANOPOLOUS

>George: Do we win by becoming like them?

>Trump: YES. I'M SORRY. THAT'S HOW WE WIN.

>>4875635

>10% assholes fucking it up

Denounce the ones doing it then and hunt them down along with us if you don't advocate their actions

But no in classic muzzie spirit you will go… Uuuh look i am a moderate muslim so you better do as that extremist over there says so he doesn't behead you ok ?

Yes people sin and will sin but i will be damned if i let a bunch of soap and pork dodgers violate that litle of civilization and decency the kikes haven't violated yet.

I will be damned if i let a bunch of uncivilized pigs running rampant on the roads and not respecting what my people have built.

I will be damned if i let them enforce their barbaric culture over mine.

Not damned by god damned by my conscience. Damned by my ancestors as well who will be rolling in their graves. You either are with us and against them or you are with them and against us. Either convict them and hunt them down or get hunted down with them.

>>4875787

I'm the sword that kills to prevent killing.

You are the sword that kills.

I'm a reaction to you.

>>4875790

What is socially left-wing per your definition?

>>4875795

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WE NEED TO TORTURE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

>>4875768

>we were all born by chance, dude

>we are all equal and deserve equal opportunities, mang

>you are an isolated unit in the whole fucking universe and the chain of events and conditions that lead to your being are of no importance, dawg

Can you please take your fatalist bullshit back to reddit?

>>4875737

My source is the Holy Spirit.

>>4875799

Individualist,interested purely in the physical, lacking purpose and giving in to base desires.

>>4875798

Yet death is what comes. Words spoken to mask the deed in a cloak of righteousness.

The bodies speak of the acts. They care not but for deeds.

>>4875795

We had no need to torture for 300 years, but now because some raghead in afghanistan hates out guts we have to throw western civilization overboard and establish a stalinist dictatorship? What a moronic answer.

>>4875803

I have never said we're equal.

The fact we aren't equal is why I don't need to steal achievements from other people because I already have my achievements.

>>4875796

>>4875716

Meant to link this post

>>4875806

Not all deaths are the same.

>>4875807

>We had no need to torture for 300 years

We tortured, we just called it by other names.

>>4875805

Individualist is a right wing trait.

Being left-wing is being a fucking drone.

Also, who says I lack purpose and give in to base desires? Because I don't accept your we wuz kings bullshit?

>>4875805

>left-wing

>individualist

lel at no time in modern history has leftism been defined as individualism. The left are collectivists, that's the basis of socialism and communism. You are either confused or a shill.

>>4875807

>We had no need to torture for 300 years

No. We had no need to REPORT ABOUT TORTURE for 300 years. Every nation on Earth its enemies.

Please wake up from your stupor.

>>4875825

Wait a minute, comrade. Are you trying to rewrite history again?

>>4875825

*tortures its enemies

>>4875276

samefag spam

>>4875825

>WE WUZ TORTURERS N SHIT!!

LMAO

>>4875809

>because I already have my achievements.

I am sure you have made a fortune from patreon donations, but you can bet your ass thinks would not have been the same without being born in a White country with a three-digits IQ, and these are not "by chance".

>>4875836

It's true, and I appreciate that.

But that doesn't fucking mean I should claim all that achievements in the world are made by europeans, because that's plain wrong.

>>4875825

>WE WUZ TORTURERS

Trumbots would rather believe a fictional version of history than admit that "God-Emperor" was wrong or unamerican about something.

>>4875849

Has there been ANY century where people stop torturing?

This is almost dumb as the bullshit germans/white people don't rape bullshit.

>>4875822

>Individualist is a right wing trait.

And you're the kind of person who will say anarchy is the fullest extreme on the right-wing.

>>4875824

>The left are collectivists, that's the basis of socialism and communism

I thought the basis of socialism and communism is that each individual cosmically deserves everything they desire and that nobody should be allowed to have more things than you.

Then again I can expect you to call Fascism left-wing soon, so it's not like you hold much clout.

>>4875855

>Exceptions disprove the Norm

No, friend. Just because someone was tortured somewhere doesn't mean that it is a western tradition.

We have the rule of law, due process and i'm not giving it up, because some retard is afraid of towel heads 2000 miles away.

>>4875867

It's not exceptions when everyone fucking do.

Mussolini employed torture to get rid of the Mafia (or more accurately Cesare Mori did), and it worked, the scum were shut down completely.

I don't see why people in this thread are freaking out about it, unless you're muslims getting all panicked that America won't be putting up with your niggershines the way modern Europe does.

>>4875855

>>4875867

Holy hell it's happening, two of the shills are turning on each other and eating each other alive.

KillShill Arena 2016, two shills enter, 1 leaves.

>>4875867

>western tradition

>"manifest destiny didn't involve terror and torture"

>"it's actually patriotism"

>can't accept the ugly side of war and dominating your enemies

please go to Canada and die in the wilderness, cuck

>>4875862

Anarchism just means there's lack of a state.

It can be right wing or left wing.

>>4875862

>I thought the basis of socialism and communism is that each individual cosmically deserves everything they desire

It has been a defining characteristic of the left that they advocate collectivism. If the left is not collectivist, then words and definitions have no meaning.

Rewrite your definitions to fit your reality, that seems to be a speciality among Trump supporters.

>>4875887

Please do not pollute our wilderness with leftists, direct him to the urban containment zones instead :^)

>>4875880

Except the mafia was not get rid off.

>>4875894

Toronto it is then!

>>4875878

>EVERYONE IS DOING IT!

I know that it is 2016 already.

In the west we don't do that shit. That's what makes us so exceptional.

Even Murderers get a Trial, to protect the innocent, not to protect the Murderers.

You want to torture people? Go to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, etc.

>>4875891

>If the left is not collectivist, then words and definitions have no meaning.

And the Liberals are all just like George Washington, and the Democrats are all just like Andrew Jackson.

>Muh dumbo trump supporters

Do you think that even a single person is buying you as a genuine person right now?

>>4875890

>Anarchism just means there's lack of a state. It can be right wing or left wing.

It can by definition only be one of those things.

>>4875887

We're not currencly at war.

You bought into the Bush/Obama propaganda of the neverending "war on terrorism"

>>4875904

Nice try Schlomo.

>>4875822

the idea of individual human rights came from the enlightenment ergo its a leftist concept

>>4875822

>Individualist is a right wing trait.

No, because family, clan, tribe, and nation, those are the basic units of a right-wing society. Leftist/liberalism are hyper-individualism, Marxists, like capitalists, appeal to the individual ego, rightists appeal to the sense of the greater good of the family, clan, tribe, nation.

>>4875901

The West have done that shit, is doing that shit and will continue to do that shit.

And no, what makes the west exceptional is not because we don't torture.

>>4875897

Yes it was. The Americans later brought it back when they invaded. Mori's campaign against them worked. You cannot point to an occupying force deliberately reviving the Mafia and say that it means the Italians did not shut the Mafia down successfully.

>>4875901

>In the west we don't do that shit. That's what makes us so exceptional.

In the West we defended our rights through the sacrifice of those who gave their rights up.

That's how we became so exceptional, and what makes us continue to be so is our people.

>>4875904

>It can by definition only be one of those things.

Explain?

>>4875824

>lel at no time in modern history has leftism been defined as individualism.

What are hippies but hyper-individualists? What do Marxists preach: You deserve more than those other people, take what's yours; sure it talks of class, but there is no class solidarity even among the proles, just divide and conquer, individuals proclaiming other individuals as class traitors to take their positions and rise higher in the party hierarchy. Collectivism isn't a leftist principle, just a hollow leftist talking point.

>>4875917

>>4875922

I lose then.

Who knows right wingers want to be drones.

>>4875924

>WE WUZ TORTURERS N SHIT

Start digging. You're going to have to open a lot of history books to find torture laws on the books of western nations.

I doubt that you are even going to find a single example of torture laws during peace time.

>>4875948

There are no laws advocating it but that doesn't mean people don't practice it.

Find me a single century where there's no torture.

>>4875938

Anarchy can ONLY be individualist, since when any group of people begin to work together in any meaningful way they become a de facto state and anarchy is abolished.

Anarchy can ONLY be individualist, and thus leftist.

>>4875948

You're the same kind of guy who talks about how great freedom is without acknowledging that your freedom is protected by people who gave up their freedoms.

>>4875849

What was the stocks and the pillory? What was corporal punishment? What were public humiliation punishments? What are using truth serum and other drugs to extract information? What is using sleep deprivation and loud noise on enemies? We've used torture from the Colonial period up to today, we just don't call it torture.

>>4875952

This guy fucking gets it. Don't understand why these other faggots don't.

>>4875953

Anarchy just means there's no state, no authority.

Right wing anarchy means everyone going their own way.

Left wing anarchy means they form some of cooperative where everyone happens to be equal.

>>4875924

>what makes the west exceptional is not because we don't torture

Well, to be fair one of the things that does make us exceptional is that we don't torture without a good reason or out of hedonistic sadism.

>>4875953

>We have to give up freedom to protect freedom

>Nice doublethink

Just turn yourself in. You were born for a life in jail.

>>4875958

>Public humiliation

>Torture

Does that mean that you are a masochist, because you are making a fool out of yourself right now.

>>4875947

>Who knows right wingers want to be drones.

THE MUDSIE KNOWS!

SHUT IT DOWN!

>>4875965

Don't even talk to this retard. He posts the same shit everywhere because he's afraid to admit that nazis some left-wing economic policies. His mind is like a Pretzel.

>>4875970

Robespierre is slightly ring wing in this scale, and Cromwell is very right wing.

I don't get it anymore.

>>4875965

>Anarchy just means there's no state, no authority.

Which means it no longer exists when there begins to become any semblance of authority.

>Right wing anarchy means everyone going their own way.

That is leftist anarchy by definition.

>Left wing anarchy means they form some of cooperative where everyone happens to be equal.

That's not anarchy. That is socialism.

>>4875971

Are you fucking serious?

Do you think military has ever been a bastion of freedom and individual expression? Go tell your commanding officer to go fuck himself and see how far your right to free speech goes.

>>4875891

>they advocate collectivism. If the left is not collectivist, then words and definitions have no meaning.

They use collectivist rheotric, but the ideology is entirely indivualist and egotistic. There is no real class solidarity, no solidarity at all, the individual is atomized and turned on others, just as elements within one class are divided and turned on one another, and members of the society as a whole are divided and turned on one another. At its most extreme, leftism is divide and conquer of individuals against individuals motivated by egotism.

What is the left hostile towards? The family, the society, the nation, the race, all collective traditional institutions which makes their members stronger through shared connections are the enemies of the left.

>>4875985

Again, we are not at war. Stop buying into the propaganda that towelheads 2000 miles away pose a threat to the largest military empire in history.

>>4875993

>Again, we are not at war.

You're not because you hold no allegiances.

And that's an entirely irrelevant point you made to try and mask the fact that you were fucking wrong.

>>4875985

>Which means it no longer exists when there begins to become any semblance of authority.

This is true, but in that brief moment, anarchism exists.

>That is leftist anarchy by definition.

The definition of anarchy I already posted above.

>That's not anarchy. That is socialism.

Socialism can have a state, therefore it's not necessarily anarchism.

>>4875987

No, dude they are actually collectivists. That's why they advocate the abolition of property rights.

If they were individualists, they would advocate property rights. You can't be an individual without owning yourself and owning what you produce. This much should be obvious.

>>4875947

>Who knows right wingers want to be drones.

>being part of a family, a community, a nation, and a race makes one a drone

No, happily being a replaceable hyper-individualist cog in a globalist money machine motivated by consumerism and hedonism is the drone-life. Being part of an organic collective and acting in the interest of that collective going so far as to give one's own life to propagate that collective into the future is the life of man.

>>4875999

Tell me with whom we are at war. Tell me.

>>4876000

>This is true, but in that brief moment, anarchism exists.

Until the circumstances change you dickhead.

>The definition of anarchy I already posted above

No state or authority.

Which means everybody going their own way and doing as they please.

>Socialism can have a state, therefore it's not necessarily anarchism.

Socialism MUST have a state/authority, or else it's not socialism.

>>4876009

Semites and their ideologues.

>>4876007

You are a fucking drone because you don't think for yourself, you think for the "greater good".

>>4876009

Islamic culture.

>>4876005

>That's why they advocate the abolition of property rights.

No, they advocate the abolition of property rights so the individuals who make up the top of the vanguard party can own it all. They don't actually practice any of their collectivist "everything is owned by everyone equally" rhetoric, that's just what they tell the dupes to get them to turn over their property. Separate the reality of leftism from what leftism claims about itself in its own rhetoric.

>>4876018

>We're at war with "Islamic culture"

LOL.

>>4876012

>Until the circumstances change you dickhead.

And? Until it does, anarchy remains.

>Which means everybody going their own way and doing as they please.

Voluntarism exists, it's the whole thing behind left anarchy.

>Socialism MUST have a state/authority, or else it's not socialism.

What kind of socialism definition are you using?

>>4876018

How about going to war with japanese culture.

Maybe we can torture some of those anime creators.

>>4875138

Are you a Seventh-day Adventist? No one REKTS Catholics quite like Adventists

>>4876005

>No, dude they are actually collectivists. That's why they advocate the abolition of property rights.

They aren't collectivists, which is why they arbitrarily distinguish "private property" and "personal property" so they can keep the latter and all their nice things.

>>4876016

So you ARE an anarchist.

>>4876031

>And? Until it does, anarchy remains.

You're the most retarded person I've ever spoken to.

>Anarchy means there's no state!

>So when they form an authority is stops being anarchy then?

>Well yeah but before that is was anarchy!

No shit you dumbfuck, but before then THERE WAS NO AUTHORITY. NO WORKERS CO-OP, NO SOCIETY.

>Voluntarism exists, it's the whole thing behind left anarchy.

Voluntarism is everybody going their own way and doing as they please.

>What kind of socialism definition are you using?

The one were property is a thing that exists, and workers own the means of production. How can they own anything if a state does not recognize that ownership, unless they use force to assert control of it at which point how are they not just a city-state?

>>4876023

Hey pretzelmind, do you not see how utterly insane your reasoning is?

You can't advocate the abolition of property rights without aboliting individualism in the process.

When you have no property and don't even own yourself, you are a slave.

Slaves can't be individuals. Your reasoning is utterly insane ane makes absolutely no sense.

Tell me, are you the same guy who refused to admit that nazis had left-wing economic policies in that other thread?

>>4876016

No, I am a man who understands the critical role of collectives in human existence in general and Western civilization in particular. The collectives to which I belong, my family line, my network of clans, my community, my nation, and my race and their continued survival are more important than my individual wants and needs.

The drone is the leftist who only thinks of his own atomized wants and desires in the here and now and acts out a pattern programmed into him by his masters, a program to seek out consumption and hedonistic pleasure, to chase after the material, to put the self above all else and the desires of the self as the height of all existence. Who cares what you do now, because in 100 years you'll be dead? That's the drone.

>>4876026

>>4876033

Your culture is filth, mehmed, and we're going to destroy it, it's gonna be tremendous.

>>4876046

>They arbitrarily distinguish "private property" and "personal property" so they can keep the latter and all their nice things.

Those are the idelogically inconsistent ones. Leftism is a disease that can't possibly work, which is why they make all kind of exceptions for their stupid collectivist ideology

>>4876048

Hey simple-mind, private property isn't actually abolished in any leftist system, it's merely concentrated into the hands of certain invididuals, those individuals being the head of the vanguard party. Learn to separate rhetoric from reality.

>>4876053

You have to go back, Paco

>>4876046

>No shit you dumbfuck, but before then THERE WAS NO AUTHORITY. NO WORKERS CO-OP, NO SOCIETY.

And? The point remains, that time before authority appears, there is anarchy.

>Voluntarism is everybody going their own way and doing as they please.

Voluntarism is people doing whatever they please without any authority telling them to, theoritically, it means people can voluntarily team up and form-cop.

>How can they own anything if a state does not recognize that ownership, unless they use force to assert control of it at which point how are they not just a city-state?

As said, people can just recognize those rights via voluntarism.

>>4876055

>Those are the idelogically inconsistent ones

So the fingers go in the ears.

>>4876051

You are a drone because you think the needs of the collective is greater than your own need.

When your master tells you to die, you die.

This is pretty entertaining

>>4876056

>Hey simple-mind, private property isn't actually abolished in any leftist system,

LOL. You are a troll.

>>4876046

>So you ARE an anarchist.

I'm the one who want a balance between the need of the individual and the need of the mass.

And yes, I do value my need better than their need, because the mass doesn't think for the individual.

>>4876063

There are 101 strains of socialism and communism.

Again, the exception is not the rule. Do you understand that?

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN DID IT AGAIn!

TORTURE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

Truth really is stranger than fiction.

>>4876046

>>4876046

>So you ARE an anarchist.

I'm the one who want a balance between the need of the individual and the need of the mass.

And yes, I do value my need better than their need, because the mass doesn't think for the individual.

>>4876065

No. You are wrong. A drone isn't self-aware enough nor long-viewed enough to think in terms of collectives or acting in the collective well-being, the drone merely follows a program that was wired or indoctrinated with him. I choose when I die for my collectives, the masters don't want me to die for family, nation or race, they want me to die in pursuit of petty material gain.

Pay attention to the world around you: the drone aren't the ones who believe in strong family, strong communities, strong nations and a strong white race, the drones are the ones who live for themselves only and indulge in every hedonistic and consumerist excess our materialist programmers feed into them.

>>4876088

>I'm the one who want a balance between the need of the individual and the need of the mass.

But caring about others is for drones.

You're not a drone, are you?

>>4876088

>wasted Hitlerdubs

Enjoy your 90 years of pointless existence.

>>4876069

Name one leftist system where it's abolished.

Just one.

>>4876065

And when society implores you to live, you killl yourself to spite them.

>>4876083

And they all come back to one key point: owning the means of production for the workers.

>>4876069

Are you telling me there was no one who owned property in the USSR or PRC? You'd be fucking wrong.

>>4876097

The master is the head of said collective, the master tells you to die, you choose to obey your master for the collective, thus you are a drone.

No need to sugar-coat it.

>>4874902

>(47)

>>4876098

I care for those in immediate around me, my family, my loved ones those that I have physical contact with.

I cannot care for people I don't even fucking know.

>>4874902

Oh, look. It's this shill again.

>>4876110

Leninism. Stalinism.

>>4876113

Yes. That's what the soviet union set out to do. A society without posessions. Everything was owned by the state and the granted you certain priviliges in the service of the community and the greater good.

There was no private property in the soviet union. Even the stuff of the corrupt commissars was state property without exception.

>>4876110

>And when society implores you to live, you killl yourself to spite them.

I am not a contrarian.

>>4876117

Someone's gotta speak out against that unamerican piece of filth. Even John McCain, NeoCon extraordinaire knew better than to advocate torture.

>>4876114

>The master is the head of said collective, the master tells you to die, you choose to obey your master for the collective, thus you are a drone.

The elders and leaders don't tell me to die for my collectives, when I see it as necessary, I willingly sacrifice myself.

You, the individualist drone, your master never tells you that you will die, it tries to keep the thought of death out of your mind, plying you with pleasantness, all the while leading you headlong into death for his individual wants.

>>4876129

What? Americans have tortured for hundreds of years.

>>4876119

>I cannot care for people I don't even fucking know.

Then how do you expect to make a prosperous society? You're just a primitive tribal.

>>4876124

>Leninism. Stalinism.

Who controlled the bread-lines? From what I remember, it wasn't a cosmic entity.

>>4876128

>I am not a contrarian.

That's what you've convinced yourself, yes.

>>4876124

>That's what the soviet union set out to do.

No they didn't. They set out to put all property into the ownership of the Jew-dominated vanguard party.

>>4876121

>implying i'm a regular in Trump threads

I usually stay away from the Trump cancer, but this is just too outrageous to ignore.

>>4876128

Shitting on your own genome strongly implies that you are the second most self-destructive form of contrarian after downright jumping off a bridge just to spite the people trying to convince you otherwise.

>>4876139

[citation needed]

>>4876138

You are dancing around the point.

If your elder, your leaders, your fucking collective tell you to go die, while you think it's unnecessary, what do you do?

>>4876151

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_and_the_United_States

>>4876145

>Then how do you expect to make a prosperous society? You're just a primitive tribal.

A prosperous society is a group of prosperous individual.

And call me a primitive tribal when you yourself is a collectivist.

>>4876153

If your elder tells you not to jump into a fire, what do you do?

If my leader tells me to kill another when I know it is against the greater good to do so, what do you think I would do?

>>4876145

The state controled the bread-lines and everything else. In theory "the people" (the collective) controlled the bread-lines, but we know that's bullshit. It was always some a local apparatchik and his entourage that enforced the edicts of the politburo

>>4876148

How adorable. You still think I can see your posts.

>>4876149

Since when have I shat on my own genome?

>>4876153

>If your elder, your leaders, your fucking collective tell you to go die

They don't tell me to die, though, they don't want me to die, I'm one of their own; I choose to die for them, for their long-term benefit. You've clearly never been part of a collective, only an individual ruthlessly manipulated by other individuals each seeking his own ends.

>>4876164

>A prosperous society is a group of prosperous individual.

Shove a bunch of prosperous sociopaths into an island and you're not gonna get Japan out of the gate.

>>4876173

So basically, in history, no king, no leader, no collective have ever told an individual to suicide.

>>4876177

Hey, we get America.

>>4876159

>Torture and the United States includes documented and alleged cases of torture both inside and outside the United States by members of the U.S. government, the U.S. military, U.S. law enforcement agencies, U.S. intelligence agencies, U.S. health care services, and other U.S. public organizations.

Wew. Torture is actually so rare that there are only "alleged" cases. Is this your evidence for

WE WUZ TORTURERS N SHIT

WE ALWAYS BE TORTURING DEM BITCHES WHO BE HOES

Way to slide the thread, Dan. Enjoy it.

>>4876167

You have to go back Paco.

>>4876186

These cases ain't rare at all, that's the point.

>>4876182

>So basically, in history, no king, no leader, no collective have ever told an individual to suicide.

Sometimes it is in the collective interest to remove an individual who threatens the whole. Is it wrong to tell a dangerously unstable individual to kill himself for the greater good? No.

>>4876153

>my tribe leader's decisions perfectly represent the tribe's best interest

>collectivists are mindless drones perfectly obedient to authority and no sense of judgement and self-preservation

Literally middle-school goy reading Atlas Fugged for the first time tier strawman.

>>4876194

No, they are extremely rare. The US fights a major war every 10 years and the only cases you can come up with are alleged, illegal ones.

>>4876196

Then go fucking die when your collective tells you to do.

As an individualist, fuck that, I will only die when I'm 80.

>>4876203

US has been in non-stop war since the Korean War.

And no, the list isn't fucking short at all.

Are you in denial?

The fact they are illegal doesn't mean they don't fucking exist.

>>4876148

It's snowballed since August. Hivemind was activated. If you didn't see the "remove parts of the internet" remark Trump made months ago, people here were willing and ready in every thread to defend censoring the internet and free speech, regardless of what Trump actually meant.

>>4876207

If I ever become a danger to my collectives, I will die.

>As an individualist, fuck that, I will only die when I'm 80.

You'll never make it that long without collectives to care for and protect you from the harsh realities of the world. It's really easy to be an "individualist" when others are compelled by force of leftist laws to provide for and protect you.

>>4876171

When you fail to appreciate the fact that you are not a Homo erectus in some paleolithic savanna that would allow you to truly test your "selfmade-man" delusion.

>>4876199

You create a strawman for individualist, and thus I create a strawman for the collectivist who thinks the collective's will can even be represented accurately.

>>4876185

Early America was actually highly collectivist. Even the beloved "Libertarian icon" Andrew Jackson opposed state secessions and broadened federal power.

>>4876166

>The state controled the bread-lines and everything else

So how was private property abolished exactly? When the state controlled the bread lines, and the states donors lived lavish lives?

So either it didn't abolished private property because the state owned bread lines went to special citizens unimpeded, or the people really did own it making it a form of private property.

>>4876212

Men have grown tired of liberty.

>>4876221

>You create a strawman for individualist

Where?

>>4876219

Then go kill yourself.

If they want to kill me, come and kill me. I will never kill myself unless I'm like 80, at that point living is torture.

WE WUZ TORTURERS N SHIT

Just to shut up "we wuz torturers n shit" shills:

The united states has signed and ratified half a dozen treaties that ban the use of torture and degrading treatment and punishment

>The Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_against_Torture

>>4876212

Why would any of us have a problem with removing jihadists from the internet? We who are constantly censored via extra-legal means for expressing unpopular views would stick our necks out to defend the non-existent rights of jihadists to use the same internet we're extra-legally censored from to ply their murderous trade? Tak your worthless abstract principles and shove them up your ass.

>>4876220

I don't accept your we wuz king bullshit doesn't mean I don't appreciate europeans.

You niggers just like to steal other achievement and place it all around "White culture".

>>4876238

And yet they still do it.

>>4876230

Early America was a hotbed of ideas, some even monarchist, and no, Andrew Jackson came later.

>>4876230

>So how was private property abolished exactly?

Listen, mate. You don't know your definitions and you don't even seem to know basic english.

Private property is not the same property privilege. The word doesn't mean what you think it does.

>>4876230

>Men have grown tired of liberty.

>equating liberty with turbomaterialistic lolbergtarianism, feelsgood liberalism and egomaniac individualism

Don't give them straws to grasp.

>>4876231

>You, the individualist drone, your master never tells you that you will die, it tries to keep the thought of death out of your mind, plying you with pleasantness, all the while leading you headlong into death for his individual wants.

>>4876236

I'm no danger to my collectives, so I'll refrain from killing myself at the behest of some egotistical child who thinks he'll live to 80 as an atomized hyper-individualist. If you really believed in your individualism, you would abandon the collective of society and wouldn't use products, like computers and internets, which came about through collective efforts and collective funding, you wouldn't benefit from a social order which imposes upon others and duty to provide for and protect you.

>>4876238

They also signed treaties not to develop chemical and biological weapons, but they do that, too.