289e1e No.4888271
Is Trump the perfect candidate?
Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
83a1fb No.4888300
Well he does think there is a link between vaccination and autism. He also said something about supporting Israel. Other than that, I think I agree with him on pretty much everything
5a8a06 No.4888321
>>4888300 (impressive)
This. I understand where the Israel thing is coming from, you need to be on good terms with your jewish overlords, but aside from that Trump's the best thing to happen to America in years
0a603e No.4888338
>>4888271
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Supporting the CIA
Supporting the NSA
Calling for the death of whistle blowers
Being a self proclaim Israel fanboy
Being a former trash tv start
Other then that I guess some of the memes are funny
9b8a16 No.4888345
He doesn't support a full moratorium on immigration
He could be harder on the big transnationals that fucked over the US
He won't make the Shoah real
Of course he isn't perfect, but he's what we have right now
830868 No.4888363
Nah, from an American patriot gun lover, nothing.
I even compromise with some of his anti-free market policies, it's what we need now, bringing the market back to US.
0df10d No.4888384
>>4888271
Somebody yesterday posted two screencap, one saying he was different from the other goys, the other would talk bad or avoid talking about israel while making policies that advantages the jews while Trump would do the opposite. "Israel best ally blah blah blah" and then talk about allied countries who stabs us in the back and such, wait for kikes to criticize the wall and then point their and when they bitch "Antisemite" he's like "No, you guys love me". He just deal with them like women, he tells them what to think like he does with the media. And the other said that he was the best hope or the best accelerationist, either he was going to change things or people would be desillusioned in mass and lose faith in the whole system, eventually starting another civil war. It also said the only people not voting for him were the one who were for the status quo, kikes.
d60711 No.4888426
>>4888338
Pretty much this except despite the CIA/NSA bit he's still legitimately the best non-third party candidate. Which is fucked up when you think about it but oh well.
85b5eb No.4888431
I disagree with him on Iran, the 130b we "gave" Iran was their own frozen assets back, I also disagree that he thinks Iran are "crazy". Shia Islam, while still being filthy kebab talk, does not believe in a global caliphate therefore is not a threat to its neighbors while nearly everyone else in Islam is.
I also disagree with him on mental health being used as a measurement for gun ownership since the definition of insane can be changed much easier than a law IE soviet union making are criticisms of Communist Government "insane" and throwing them in prison.
I'm unsure if hes changed his mind since 2013 or he thinks his position on immigration from CPAC13 is too extreme for his current campaign, by that I mean making most of our immigrants white Europeans.
I agree with him completely on nearly everything else though.
85b5eb No.4888444
>>4888338
>Calling for the death of whistle blowers
Snowden caused very little damage to US policy and named no names effectively letting people get away with shit everyone already knew they were doing while selling shit to Russia for asylum. Do you honestly think Putin is keeping him because hes sympathetic?
d60711 No.4888455
>>4888431
>The 130b was their own frozen assets
That makes a lot more sense as part of the deal then. Never knew that.
b87120 No.4888460
Far from perfect as far as ideals go, but he is exactly what we need in our current situation.
d2e942 No.4888472
>>4888271
>implying there's one "le perfect candidate" everyone can agree on
>hey lets talk about everything wrong with le Trump! Post about it in the comment section below
This is a stealthy D&C thread.
959df4 No.4888474
>>4888271
He's got a lot of good points and a lot of bad points. For a lot of people the good points far outweigh the bad. For this type of political situation you have to look at context and in context he's a great candidate.
a4877f No.4888478
His policies are secondary to me.
Frankly, I just want to watch him break stuff, like a bull in a china shop.
That said, most of his policies are pretty based.
959df4 No.4888479
>>4888472
Even if that were OP's goal you're a weakling if you can't handle and dismantle it.
d2e942 No.4888490
>>4888479
I can. Can everyone else? Why the fuck keep my mouth shut and risk it?
ab9486 No.4888524
Shitty candidate, only rich/famous because of daddies money. But hes saying what needs to be said, white land owners made this country the most powerful nation the world will probably ever see, and its being threatened by some pretty big picture shit.
19088c No.4888529
I suspect he is half a charlatan who would say anything to gain power.
But it just doesn't matter anymore. He fights. None of the other faggots will fight against the PC lobby and the cultural marxists. Trump has, and will again. And I do think Trump loves America and wants it to be great again.
Nobody else would shut the fucking border. Nobody else will even say they'll shut the border. Nobody else would name Muslims as the problem and not mumble some idiotic shit about religion of peace.
It isn't that he's perfect, it's that he's the only candidate who isn't a fucking pussy. He's the only hope left.
07a18a No.4888585
Israel, NSA overreach, and equal pay for women. Other than that, hes got 90% with me on I Side With.
fe1694 No.4888588
>>4888271
>Is Trump the perfect candidate?
No.
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Yes. He's sometimes nice to some people in some manner of way.
07a18a No.4888595
>>4888338
>muh Snowden
Did you not see the thread about Shell Game the other day?
fe1694 No.4888614
>>4888338
>>4888444
>Implying Snowden wasn't a false flag.
3830fb No.4888615
>>4888472
>Even cucks can evolve.
>Life finds a way
8cce37 No.4888623
Trump is a childish retard playing dumb to gain the support of republicans. Hillarious how stormfaggots think he supports your ideology.
85b5eb No.4888644
>>4888524
>Shitty candidate, only rich/famous because of daddies money
>was richer than his dad when he died well before he left college
85b5eb No.4888656
>>4888623
>hes only pretending for 4 years
1b7310 No.4888665
>>4888271
1. He is a good candidate, not perfect. He is self funded which is the biggest plus.
2. He wants to "shut down" the internet. I know what he means but this might hurt our rights.
1b7310 No.4888674
>>4888623
>stormfaggots
theres that word again
wrong forum
fe1694 No.4888682
>>4888623
Fam.
Filter + report.
8cce37 No.4888711
>>4888674
Nope its been proven that 8chan /pol/ had been infiltrated by stormfront many times. They tried and failed on 4chan but succeeded here.
>>4888682
>stop having a different opinion than me
You report people for thinking different? muh hugbox
d390ca No.4888859
>>4888271
He's the best candidate and out of the box. Different from Ron Paul, but have in common both are out of the box people. He is most interesting character, using his fortune and charisma to challenge the forces rotting his country.
I wish him victory
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45c969 No.4888883
>>4888874
checkem heretics
45c969 No.4888888
>>4888883
jk it was this time
4c012c No.4888903
He's the worst candidate. Anyone seriously thinking of voting for him needs a reality check.
24a626 No.4888911
>>4888888
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850fc8 No.4888915
>>4888888
Wasted you fucking faggot
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c067ae No.4888930
>>4888888
Even worse than not getting dubs is wasting perfectly good dubs.
For shame, anon, for shame.
4258ef No.4888933
>>4888888 (checked)
Checked for Trump you fucking faggot
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1f723b No.4888952
>>4888888
Checked Now, please go and never come back
45c969 No.4888953
>>4888930
>wake up right on time to claim digits for the emperor
I feel pretty good tbh
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45ca21 No.4888968
>>4888888
Why have all the recent gets been such trash?
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45ca21 No.4888986
>>4888979
I support the God Emperor and your get was trash.
25cc22 No.4888997
>>4888455
>give terror finance money back
>sense
this is a shill thread, the shill posts the OP then responds with anti trump propaganda, as well as it being a place to crowdsource millennial opinions on what would stick against trump. be careful gullible
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490244 No.4889013
>>4888711
wow JIDF is on full force
45c969 No.4889018
>>4889012
check these then
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dbded7 No.4889023
I'm pro-choice but I'm almost 30 and still a virgin so don't really care tbh fam
5918fa No.4889028
I don't think there is such thing as a perfect candidate.
Trump is so much better than every other option, so he has my vote
45ca21 No.4889029
>>4889023
Are you a wizard?
d410b5 No.4889103
>>4888271
I wish Trump had read up more on the middle east prior to the last debate. Jeb! was blabbing on about different Islamic branches in Syria, and how we needed to Arm the Sunni militias to fight terror.
I was really hoping Trump would turn to Jeb! and say, "Giving weapons Sunni's is how ISIS was created, dummy".
eae191 No.4889119
de1cdf No.4889204
He's a good candidate but let's not get ahead of ourselves, he's no Hitler either. Compared to the steaming piles of shit we've had for years he's by far the best option, but that doesn't make him perfect.
5a8a06 No.4889208
>>4888888
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
a74bca No.4889209
>>4888271
I don't think he's going to take a stance against internet spying on US citizens.
554b75 No.4889217
>>4888271
I disagree with his tax plan & his support of sending troops into the middle east instead of just pulling out of there, and his support for Israel.
That said, I agree with everything else he's saying & I intend to vote for him.
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819e15 No.4889379
>>4889217
As far as I know he's not really in support of sending troops into the middle east. He talks a lot about getting our allies to do the shit but when he does talk about it, it's not some bullshit drawn-out nonsense and setting up a democracy for those poor sand people that just wanna vote.
Support for Israel I can deal with since it mostly sounds like just a platitude when factoring in all his talk about not being a slave to other countries and their interests.
6e5ebe No.4889451
>>4888271
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Why would I give a shit about his policies?
He could be for 99% tax rates and I would still vote for him.
I am pretty sure that most of his support is 100% due to him being the potential "Putin" for America that we so desperately want.
789382 No.4889466
>>4888300
> there is a link between vaccination and autism.
prove it wrong.
>>4888321
quite possibly.
6e5ebe No.4889498
>>4889103
>I was really hoping Trump would turn to Jeb! and say, "Giving weapons Sunni's is how ISIS was created, dummy".
Yeah, now that you mention it, that would have been a perfect take down.
>>4889466
>prove vaccination wrong
>correlation does not equal causation hurr durr
you're wasting your time anon; they read shit that tells them the doctors are never wrong because SCIENCE!
994c50 No.4889499
>>4888888
thank god it wasn't the 5Mil
b55abe No.4889566
>>4888623
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
819e15 No.4889615
>>4889498
>Sometimes doctors are wrong so lets throw all of the progress of western civilization into the trash and rub crystals on our dicks and smoke the herbal jew to cure cancer, goys.
Fuck off, kike.
6e5ebe No.4889661
>>4889615
>all of the progress of western civilization means getting a vaccine for everything even if the vaccine kills more people than the disease it vaccinates against.
okay schlomo.
b6416d No.4889776
>>4889615
>he doesn't rub crystals on his dick
Your penis is going to get stolen by ghosts anon.
0a603e No.4889847
>>4888444
>effectively letting people get away with shit everyone already knew they were doing
>everyone
Everyone on /pol/ maybe that was certainly not the case for the rest of the country you couldn't even bring up the possibility of mass surveillance without being called crazy.
>>4888595
No I'm not sure what you are talking about.
>>4888614
How so, and for what purpose?
819e15 No.4889951
>>4889661
http://www.naturalnews.com/036062_vaccines_Nazi_medical_experiments.html
>Vaccines were used by the Nazi's, goy. You aren't anti-semetic are you?
>>4889776
Ghosts are white. They don't steal.
c5f830 No.4890318
>>4887271
>Is Trump the perfect candidate?
Nope.
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Israel.
The Jews.
Allowing non-White immigrants into the country.
Not ending the Federal Reserve.
Not stopping additions to the national debt.
>inb4 dude, lol, just wait for hitler.
d2837f No.4890333
>>4888338
>No CIA
Oy vey goyim, only we can have a MOSSAD
We need a Muslim database, never seen him support NSA directly
Snowden is a huge cuck.
>Israel fanboy
webm related
>Being a former trash tv star
Says the weeb
>Other then that I guess some of the memes are funny
>>>/gaschamber/
1c1a1a No.4890900
>>4888300
>he does think there is a link between vaccination and autism
Good for Trump.
1c1a1a No.4890947
Eminent domain. I don’t like it, but eminent domain is in the Constitution.
“nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Fifth Amendment.
5d1d1b No.4890973
>>4890900
Anon, do you understand what both of those pictures actually mean?
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aaed33 No.4891030
>>4888338
This. I support him, but mostly because /pol/ does. I have no horse in this race.
cb4f9c No.4891101
>>4888271
There are no perfect candidates.
Trump is the least imperfect - what you should maybe do is say who you think is better and why.
Hillary or Hillary?
4fa809 No.4891290
>>4889466
>prove it wrong
That's not how the burden of proof works. You may as well ask him to disprove the Kike God Yahweh.
fe1694 No.4891540
>>4889847
>How so, and for what purpose?
For precisely the events which transpired. Governments at state levels are failing to effect laws that stop money going to agencies which spy on citizen and also from agencies operating within the state.
That just guarantees more federal land grabs.ALA Oregon happening recently.
It also did the opposite. It had states beefing up spying measures on it's citizens. See: CA, NY and the like.
Also see;
>New York tries to force phone makers to put in crypto backdoors
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/01/15/new-york-tries-to-force-phone-makers-to-put-in-encryption-backdoor/
http://archive.is/mbGKa
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fe1694 No.4891573
>>4890318
>Israel.
>The Jews.
>Allowing non-White immigrants into the country.
Oh goy. Plz goy keep drinking our slides and believing that.
Those are pretty obviously lies because no one could poll above even YEB! if that person said anything different.
ff2634 No.4891578
Trump is the best realistic candidate we have. Mega space-Hitler isn't coming any time soon, so for now lets build this fucking wall and start deporting people. Baby steps.
5dee03 No.4891585
Trump gives our narrative a platform and some legitimacy.
Disagree with him in some areas but overall he's fucking amazing. I couldn't imagine where we would be right now without him, just 10 months ago things looked entirely hopeless.
f9f50c No.4891592
I am pretty convinced that there are a lot of social issues he just doesn't give a shit about. Naturally I'd prefer he gave a shit about them in the direction I enjoyed, but quite frankly it doesn't really matter since he is strong on the issues that will determine the fate of our country.
fe1694 No.4891624
>>4888338
>Supporting the CIA
>Supporting the NSA
Neither are bad if they're in the hands of a person who isn't wholly owned by the kikes.
Why the heck can't you autists realize that?
639241 No.4891648
-I disagree with his advocating for the use of torture
-I disagree with his dismissal of global warming
-I disagree with his stance on eminent domain and seizing property to build more tacky hotels
-I disagree with his total disregard for the environment
-I disagree with his unfounded stance that vaccines cause autism
He's still the best candidate though. Clinton is just a repackaged version of Yeb/Rubot/Kasich and Sanderstein is batshit insane. My money belongs to myself and my family, nobody else, but he fails to understand that basic concept. Trump is simply the only logical choice.
f7a952 No.4891780
No, he's a means to an end (beaner wall, crusades).
Ultimately, the fact that it's cheaper to send resources 5000 miles away, manufacture something and ship it 5000 miles back than it is to just manufacture something here means there's a structural problem with the domestic economy, not that a competitor nation has an inflationary monetary policy.
Inflation (currency manipulation) boosts exports in the short term, but in the long term, imports are more expensive and adding value is about as expensive as beforehand, just with lower standards of living due to lower real wages. Much of the Chinese GDP growth and stored value is debt-financed state investment in housing; the real Chinese economy is stagnant right now despite high GDP growth figure.
There are structural problems with Western economies that tariffs and preventing inflationary monetary policy or inflating our currencies will not solve. Western governments have actually been trying this since the gold standard was removed; real wages haven't risen more than a few percent in 40 years and the industrial base of the west continues to hollow out.
We have tax and regulatory policies that encourage capital and resource consumption, not investment and economic development.
fe1694 No.4891804
>>4891648
>-I disagree with his advocating for the use of torture
Wow. So we should roll out nice 5 star dinners to get terrorists to give us info?
>-I disagree with his dismissal of global warming
The thing that doesn't exist? So you're a conspiracy theorist on the level of flat Earthers?
>-I disagree with his stance on eminent domain and seizing property to build more tacky hotels
It takes more than 60 seconds to explain that when YEB! keeps lying and the 'moderators' allow the lies and interruptions.
>-I disagree with his total disregard for the environment
The environment is fine. You're believing lies which have been proved wrong countless times.
>-I disagree with his unfounded stance that vaccines cause autism
Agree but just like his Israel 'stance' you have to lie to get some votes. The Israel stance is much more necessary because any candidate trying to be remotely serious must fully lie and outright support Israel or be ruined immediately.
The vaccine stuff really doesn't matter, so I'll give you that one.
2a0550 No.4891816
>>4888338
>Snowden
>Whistleblower
He went full treason when he traded the information to Russia and fled. It'd be political suicide for someone running for POTUS to endorse a traitor, even if you think the information he exposed was important for the public to know.
071418 No.4891858
>>4888997
Iran does not finance terrorism, the overwhelming majority of terror attacks are wahabbist suànni
2334ac No.4891876
>>4888271
He doesn't want to gas the kikes and hang all niggers. Other than that he's pretty good.
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1c1a1a No.4891917
>>4891648
>global warming
>total disregard for the environment
You fell for "green" propaganda to demonize carbon dioxide.
d35825 No.4891933
>>4888623
>>>/jewpol/
It's a dead board, so it's the perfect new home for gaschamberfaggots like you.
71da13 No.4891955
>>4888271
Let's dispel this fiction that Trump isn't the perfect candidate; Trump is exactly the perfect candidate.
0a603e No.4891981
>>4891540
>Governments at state levels are failing to effect laws that stop money going to agencies which spy on citizen and also from agencies operating within the state.
I don't see how that's a falsefalg or how that would change anything about wanting to kill whistle blowers.
>>4890333
>Oy vey goyim, only we can have a MOSSAD
Who said that?
>Snowden is a huge cuck.
He wanted him killed for being a whistle blower not for being a cuck.
>webm related
webm related
>Says the weeb
What does that have to do with anything? Are you actually trying to imply anime is on the same level as reality TV??
>>4891624
>Neither are bad if they're in the hands of a person who isn't wholly owned by the kikes.
99.9 percent of people are. Why the heck can't you autists realize that?
>>4891816
>It'd be political suicide for someone running for POTUS to endorse a traitor,
Did he need to call for him to be killed?
>traitor
Spying on the American people and its supposed allies isn't betrayal but pointing it out is?
>>4891030
I have a similar line of thinking, if he wins or loses the nomination there will be a lot of butt hurt to enjoy.
d35825 No.4891996
>>4891804
Vaccines are linked to autism you bluepilled twit. They often contain unnecessarily high levels of low-cost ingredients like mercury compounds and formaldehyde precursors, live viruses, animal DNA, and retroviruses. Plus kids today get five times as many vaccines as I did as a kid. It stresses their bodies too much.
Have you never wondered where your autism comes from?
b86ec8 No.4892040
>>4891903
EIGHTY FUCKING SIX, YOU NIGGERS
READ THIS FUCKING DOCUMENT
b86ec8 No.4892050
>>4892040
FUCK ME ITS 124 NOW
0e017c No.4892054
>>4888271
Torture.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/interrogation-experts-from-every-branch-of-the-military-and-intelligence-agree-torture-doesnt-produce-useful-information.html
I'll dump it here as well.
Army Field Manual 34-52 Chapter 1 says:
“Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear.”
The C.I.A.’s 1963 interrogation manual stated:
Intense pain is quite likely to produce false confessions, concocted as a means of escaping from distress. A time-consuming delay results, while investigation is conducted and the admissions are proven untrue. During this respite the interrogatee can pull himself together. He may even use the time to think up new, more complex ‘admissions’ that take still longer to disprove.
According to the Washington Post, the CIA’s top spy – Michael Sulick, head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service – said that the spy agency has seen no fall-off in intelligence since waterboarding was banned by the Obama administration. “I don’t think we’ve suffered at all from an intelligence standpoint.”
The CIA’s own Inspector General wrote that waterboarding was not “efficacious” in producing information
A 30-year veteran of CIA’s operations directorate who rose to the most senior managerial ranks (Milton Bearden) says (as quoted by senior CIA agent and Presidential briefer Ray McGovern):
It is irresponsible for any administration not to tell a credible story that would convince critics at home and abroad that this torture has served some useful purpose.
This is not just because the old hands overwhelmingly believe that torture doesn’t work — it doesn’t — but also because they know that torture creates more terrorists and fosters more acts of terror than it could possibly neutralize.
0e017c No.4892059
A former high-level CIA officer (Philip Giraldi) states:
Many governments that have routinely tortured to obtain information have abandoned the practice when they discovered that other approaches actually worked better for extracting information. Israel prohibited torturing Palestinian terrorist suspects in 1999. Even the German Gestapo stopped torturing French resistance captives when it determined that treating prisoners well actually produced more and better intelligence.
Another former high-level CIA official (Bob Baer) says:
And torture — I just don’t think it really works … you don’t get the truth. What happens when you torture people is, they figure out what you want to hear and they tell you.
Michael Scheuer, formerly a senior CIA official in the Counter-Terrorism Center, says:
“I personally think that any information gotten through extreme methods of torture would probably be pretty useless because it would be someone telling you what you wanted to hear.”
A retired C.I.A. officer who oversaw the interrogation of a high-level detainee in 2002 (Glenn L. Carle) says:
[Coercive techniques] didn’t provide useful, meaningful, trustworthy information…Everyone was deeply concerned and most felt it was un-American and did not work.”
A former top Air Force interrogator who led the team that tracked down Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has conducted hundreds of interrogations of high ranking Al Qaida members and supervising more than one thousand, and wrote a book called How to Break a Terrorist writes:
As the senior interrogator in Iraq for a task force charged with hunting down Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, the former Al Qaida leader and mass murderer, I listened time and time again to captured foreign fighters cite the torture and abuse at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo as their main reason for coming to Iraq to fight. Consider that 90 percent of the suicide bombers in Iraq are these foreign fighters and you can easily conclude that we have lost hundreds, if not thousands, of American lives because of our policy of torture and abuse. But that’s only the past.
Somewhere in the world there are other young Muslims who have joined Al Qaida because we tortured and abused prisoners. These men will certainly carry out future attacks against Americans, either in Iraq, Afghanistan, or possibly even here. And that’s not to mention numerous other Muslims who support Al Qaida, either financially or in other ways, because they are outraged that the United States tortured and abused Muslim prisoners.
In addition, torture and abuse has made us less safe because detainees are less likely to cooperate during interrogations if they don’t trust us. I know from having conducted hundreds of interrogations of high ranking Al Qaida members and supervising more than one thousand, that when a captured Al Qaida member sees us live up to our stated principles they are more willing to negotiate and cooperate with us. When we torture or abuse them, it hardens their resolve and reaffirms why they picked up arms.
He also says:
[Torture is] extremely ineffective, and it’s counter-productive to what we’re trying to accomplish.
When we torture somebody, it hardens their resolve … The information that you get is unreliable. … And even if you do get reliable information, you’re able to stop a terrorist attack, al Qaeda’s then going to use the fact that we torture people to recruit new members.
And he repeats:
I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
He said last week:
They don’t want to talk about the long term consequences that cost the lives of Americans…. The way the U.S. treated its prisoners “was al-Qaeda’s number-one recruiting tool and brought in thousands of foreign fighters who killed American soldiers.
3a2478 No.4892124
>>4889466
There has never been any solid evidence that vaccines cause autism whatsoever. The correlation to mercury being in shots was utter garbage since the amount of mercury in there was significantly less than what is found in a tuna sandwich, which needless to say does not cause autism.
Claiming that vaccinations don't prevent disease is fucking ridiculous. The smallpox vaccine was made in 1798, before running water was widely available and before hand washing was a normal practice. Even the simple Flu shot has great effect in reducing the cases of influenza.
The correlation between Autism and vaccines has the same level of veracity as increasing tornadoes in the midwest are caused by windmills in the Netherlands. The number of cases of autism increased because the method of reporting autism was broadened. Aspergers is listed as a form of autism on the spectrum along with other anti personality disorders. The increase was simply an increase in detection, not a general increase.
People who choose to not get their children inoculated are endangering their lives and the lives of other peoples kids. Whooping cough should not be an issue and despite that kids are coming down with an easily preventable disease because they bought into the autism hoax. Chickenpox isn't always a serious danger but that's not the case for all children, of course adults are the ones that are really at risk. Catching the disease as an adult can cause a cacophony of issues from sterilization to organ failure.
5021c3 No.4892257
Obvious D&C thread, btw.
>>4888271
> Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Irrelevant.
The only issue that matters is immigration. It alone determines the future outcome of all other issues forever into the future.
We will either have more whites or fewer whites. Fewer whites means more leftists, because non-whites and immigrants are more likely to vote for the free gibs. Fewer whites, more immigrants, and more leftists means extinction, literally.
There are no other issues that matter.
d60c8e No.4892296
>>4888271
>Is Trump the perfect candidate?
He's no Hitler, but he's the best you Americans have got.
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
Many of them, he's still the best candidate.
8a37d6 No.4892303
>consensus cracking thread #6,000,000
b86ec8 No.4892307
3a2478 No.4892364
>>4892307
>expecting me to read through 124 fucking research papers and sift through every inch of them
>implying you even read them through
fc04da No.4892367
>>4888997
I hate that Trump wants to build a wall. Maybe if the other candidates came out for no wall and completely open borders they would have a chance to beat Trump.
7f6cf8 No.4892521
>>4888271
Yurofag here
His foreign policies seem too beligerent and lie somewhere between Clinton and Bush.
And most of his internal reforms seem to consist of "Trust me, I can get it done. I know how to do stuff." Hard to tell if he can deliver the stuff he promises. But if he does, he'll be proving that career politicians are deprecated.
7f6cf8 No.4892534
>>4892257
^Also, this is mostly true.
e40e3e No.4892591
>>4891624
The CIA are the handlers for the ZOG puppets in this country.
Why can't you autists realize that?
19088c No.4892611
>>4892059
>I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
This sounds like total bullshit.
The CIA has no clue what it is doing when it comes to Human intelligence. It treated Saddam's brother in law well and he told them Saddam had nukes and mobile labs. They totally believed the guy.
Remember that the CIA are guys who can't even meme properly.
7d8a01 No.4892837
>>4888300
Trump said he's the only one who can save israel.
I think he means it in the sense that if israel keeps jewing up the rest of the world it will be destroyed. Trump may prevent that cutting their ties to the US military and US politics.
I want to believe.
789382 No.4892879
>>4889951
>Ghosts are white. They don't steal.
comedy gold.
5db41c No.4892908
He's not perfect, but I don't need to point out where I disagree.
That's just ammo for the shills who want us to stay home instead of vote.
b5a084 No.4892927
bd5e9a No.4893162
>>4888338
none of these are policies
2cf3f8 No.4894157
>>4892257
>There are no other issues that matter.
Being this dumb
d2837f No.4894324
>>4891981
>J-Just wait for Hitler guys
Do you want him to come out and say kill all kikes?
>Are you actually trying to imply anime is on the same level as reality TV??
It's worse.
>>>/a/ utism
c115b6 No.4894337
>>4888888
Lame get bro.
This Hitler hex is disappointing.
989e00 No.4894441
>>4888271
He's not playing fair.
You aren't supposed to steal my heart, Mr. President.
85b5eb No.4895684
>>4889847
>Everyone on /pol/ maybe that was certainly not the case for the rest of the country
Anybody with even a small amount of tech knowledge, which is everyone who matters.
b86ec8 No.4896797
>>4892364
>I'm an idiot, therefor this proof is irrelevant
44be58 No.4896971
>>4888271
All of his kids are married to kikes. I can't blame him for not openly condemning them, since it would still be political suicide at this point, and I consider the fact that he's deliberately put off visiting Israel or even talking about it until after he's elected as a sign that he's probably aware of their fuckery and general bullshit.
But still, you would think he would have not allowed his children to become part of the tribe. Ivanka in particular is a damning black mark. She didn't just marry a Jew, she forsook Christianity and underwent a full blown conversion, with all of the associate rites therein.
That's not okay, and no amount of bullshitting can make it okay. Trump is a strong man, he should have better control over his daughter than that.
2d5110 No.4897021
>>4896971
>and I consider the fact that he's deliberately put off visiting Israel or even talking about it until after he's elected as a sign that he's probably aware of their fuckery and general bullshit.
Protip: Trump only postponed his visit to Israel because he didn't want to embarrass his personal friend Benjamin Netanyahu (because of Trump's anti-Muslim immigrant statement).
2d5110 No.4897033
>>4896971
>Trump is a strong man,
Trump is a gentile front man for Jewish and Israeli financial interests.
ecc293 No.4898305
>>4888665
>He wants to "shut down" the internet.
Sauce?
2d5110 No.4898724
>>4888623
Pretty much this.
2d5110 No.4898791
File: 1454994981265.png (32.59 KB, 1042x446, 521:223, Donald Trump Campaign Fund….png)

>>4888665
>1. He is a good candidate, not perfect. He is self funded which is the biggest plus.
Yes, if by "self-funded" you mean 33%.
52349c No.4898855
>>4888665
>He wants to "shut down" the internet.
He never said that.
>I know what he means but this might hurt our rights.
You claim to understand what he meant, but if you did, you'd know that it can't hurt our rights. You never watched the actual video of his speech, or if you did, you didn't grasp the points he made.
02c1be No.4898861
>>4898791
>0$ PAC
Self-funded.
2d5110 No.4898884
>>4889379
>Support for Israel I can deal with since it mostly sounds like just a platitude
Stewart Rahr Convinces “the Donald” to Donate $100,000 to United Hatzalah
http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2014/02/14/stewart-rahr-convinces-the-donald-to-donate-100000-to-united-hatzalah/
Rahr is a major supporter of the organization, which provides volunteer emergency ambulance service in Israel has been responsible for bringing legendary New York property developer Donald Trump on to the donators list.
2d5110 No.4898900
>>4898884
Published On: Fri, Feb 14th, 2014
Israel & Middle East / Philanthropy / US / Canada | By Yoel Bermant
Stewart Rahr Convinces “the Donald” to Donate $100,000 to United Hatzalah
Rahr is a major supporter of the organization, which provides volunteer emergency ambulance service in Israel has been responsible for bringing legendary New York property developer Donald Trump on to the donators list.
Stewart Rahr, well known businessman and philanthropist, has long been a major supporter of the Israeli volunteer emergency ambulance service United Hatzalah, going back to when he was first introduced to the organization’s founder, Eli Beer.
Just a few weeks ago Rahr had been in Jerusalem, where he pledged to match any donations made in a drive to add to United Hatzalah’s fleet of ambucycles, best described as a cross between a motor scooter and an ambulance. That particular effort will see the United Hatzalah’s fleet of ambucycles increase by 50, and thanks to Donald Trump‘s recent contribution that number will increase once again.
While Magen David Adom remains as Israel’s national ambulance service, the efforts of United Hatzalah have begun to take an increasingly large part of the strain on Israel’s health service as through providing a highly flexible emergency medical first response service. The majority of people who man the United Hatzalah ambucycles provide their time and their experience, usually gained from being trained medics in the Israeli army, on a voluntary basis.
Donald Trump has been a consistent supporter of Israel over the years, while his daughter Ivanka, who is married to Jared Kushner, another well-known New York property developer, converted to Judaism in 2009.
2d5110 No.4898907
>>4898861
>2/3 donations
>self funded
52349c No.4898915
>>4898791
Inaccurate information. Trump's put in $12,838,864 of his own money thus far, and received $19,405,216 in total contributions. This puts his self-funding at 66%.
2d5110 No.4898941
>>4889451
>I am pretty sure that most of his support is 100% due to him being the potential "Putin" for America that we so desperately want.
Exactly.
ffc4e1 No.4898945
>>4898907
>thinks donations from commonfolk detracts from self-funding
hes not taking funds with strings attached; end of discussion.
2d5110 No.4898951
>>4898915
False information that you just pulled out of your ass.
2d5110 No.4898956
>>4898945
>thinks 1/3 self funded campaign is "self funded"
He's not self funded. End of discussion.
52349c No.4898959
>>4898907
Of the remaining $6,556,976 (34%) that Trump's campaign has received not from Trump himself, the majority ($4,918,366) comes from small, unitemized contributions (defined by FEC regulations as contributions under $200).
Yes, Trump is self-funded. He has plenty of zealots who love throwing money at him. Politics, for whatever reason, does that to people; they don't even have to be asked and they will throw money at candidates they like, expecting nothing in return but the candidate to keep on trucking.
02c1be No.4898973
>>4898907
>>4898945
>>4898915
Exactly, he isn't being bought by PACs that will get their money back 30x fold, if my grandma sends him $10 just to show her support then he's still self-funded.
ffc4e1 No.4898979
>>4898945
So you're saying if he stupidly didn't accept donations at all he could say he's self-funded, or are you going to count that 9,000 in other, as well? Running out of straws to grasp at goy?
27efea No.4899027
>>4892054
I have no idea how much Donald knows about torture but even if he thought it was totally ineffective he would say he supports it. It's a clear signal that he will give no quarter to the enemy, while being able to portray his opponents as waffling twits. The important answer in a debate is what impression he leaves on voters, and pro-torture is one of strength. Anything else muddies the waters.
In the end he'll let his generals do whatever they want as long as it sounds reasonable.
a8f737 No.4899039
>>4891903
Say have you got a download link for that stuff? That place is asking me to pay up to download the doc.
polite sage for off-topic.
d16079 No.4899062
Reminder he's not the 100% perfect candidate. No one can be in this day and age.
He's just the best option right now.
2d5110 No.4899081
>>4898959
A 33% self-funded campaign can only be considered "self-funded" by playing word games.
Trump is a liar.
2d5110 No.4899089
>>4898973
Why do Trumpfags not understand what the term "self-funded" means?
b750cc No.4899098
>>4888271
I don't support his veiws on Israel but at least he's not as cucked
That said He kinda needed to say he supports Israel to be in the race and him being there has pushed the Overtain Window to our side to level not seen since Hitler
2d5110 No.4899103
>>4898973
Why is a multi-billionaire like Trump accepting $10 donations from grandmas?
Smells like another Trump scam to me.
02c1be No.4899104
>>4899081
Not at all, do you understand what the point of donations even is?
And why they're bad?
Please explain this.
2d5110 No.4899111
02c1be No.4899118
>>4899103
Ever heard of cordiality?
He isn't accepting donations from PACs because he isn't running to represent corporations.
He's running for the people.
b750cc No.4899120
>>4898791
He only accepts those donations because he has to not because he wants to
He probably donates most of it to the vets anyways
2d5110 No.4899122
>>4898989
>Total Loans
Donald Trump loans his campaign money, which then has to be paid back to Trump by grandmas donating $10 each.
2d5110 No.4899130
>>4899118
>He isn't accepting donations from PACs because he isn't running to represent corporations.
Sure thing, Moshe. Ever heard of the Trump Organization?
2d5110 No.4899145
>>4899027
>It's a clear signal that he will give no quarter to the enemy,
Yes, the evil Islamo-Fascists who threaten Israel.
02c1be No.4899155
>>4899130
The fact he is against the TPP proves your entire "theory" is full of holes.
40d490 No.4899162
Military spending needs massive cuts. The can be achieved while increasing the strength of national security. Bring troops home and have them control borders and build the Canadian border wall(mexico will build the other wall)
2d5110 No.4899173
>>4899118
> he isn't running to represent corporations.
>Literally represents a corporation named after him.
>Not running to represent corporations.
02c1be No.4899178
>>4899162
Isn't building a wall to prevent cucks, bad comedians and terrible musicians from coming here a bit too much?
2d5110 No.4899189
>>4899120
>He probably donates most of it to the vets anyways
Yes, we must support the troops. Israel is counting on us.
b750cc No.4899205
>>4899178
Well I'd say the Cannuck wall would be something Trump would consider in the 2nd Term because heaps of Mudslime will got to Canada because DUDE WEED LMAO lets them and from Canada goes to EBIL ANTI MUSLIM AMERICA
8dd87d No.4899217
I would like him to make a stand against the NSA.
b750cc No.4899227
>>4899189
Doesn't change that Vets getting treated worse than Illegals is a bad thing
02c1be No.4899229
>>4899173
Good then he isn't doing it for the money or some juicy job offer after his presidency.
>>4899205
I forgot their ongoing enrichment.
02c1be No.4899276
File: 1454997513649.jpg (168.84 KB, 911x759, 911:759, TRUMP telling jews to shov….jpg)

2d5110 No.4899294
>>4899217
Trump has ties to the IC. He'll never oppose them.
2d5110 No.4899302
File: 1454997771927.png (1.08 MB, 1237x616, 1237:616, Donald Trump Jewish Ties 1….png)

52349c No.4899309
>>4899111
>>4899122
>I-i-it's fake, stupid goyim!
>B-b-but it's also real and Trump hates grandmas!
Almost every candidate that puts their own money into a campaign does it as a loan. This makes getting their money back easier in the event of unspent funds. With presidential campaigns, we're talking about millions of dollars - perhaps tens of millions, given the billion-dollar precedent here and the amount of money Trump isn't having to spend. It doesn't matter who the individual is, what their personality/motives are like, what party they're with, or what position they're running for, a candidate's monetary self-contribution is structured as a loan rather than a regular contribution nearly every single time, anywhere in the country.
Source: Shameless political establishment insider. Deal with it, plebs.
2d5110 No.4899320
>>4899309
>Source: Shameless political establishment insider.
Hi, Trump campaign staffer.
Get fucked.
02c1be No.4899335
>>4899302
>strongest jewish ties
>only one who hasn't received a single cent from AIPAC
2d5110 No.4899340
>>4898959
>they will throw money at candidates they like, expecting nothing in return
Yes, goyim, all those Jewish billionaires fund US political candidates expecting nothing in return. heheheh
52349c No.4899342
>>4899320
>BAWWWWW YOU PROVED MY UNSOURCED BULLSHIT WRONG, GO AWAY NOW PLS
Nope.
>Trump campaign staffer
Also no, but I am voting for him. Can't stop the wall, Chaim.
2d5110 No.4899348
>>4899335
AIPAC doesn't donate to campaigns.
2d5110 No.4899352
>>4899342
You sound pissed, Trump staffer.
Get double fucked.
02c1be No.4899353
>>4899340
Exactly why he has rejected their donations, glad you are finally getting a grasp of how things work.
We can make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
2d5110 No.4899364
>>4899353
But Trump's "development" business is financed by Jewish and Israeli billionaires.
52349c No.4899393
>>4899348
>Comes back with "AIPAC doesn't donate to campaigns" response within two minutes of the post claiming it does
>>4899352
>Uses "Trump staffer" as an insult rather than treating it as a badge of honor
OK, I'm done. Your intent here was really overt from the start, but the quickdraw AIPAC response is too much. You literally are either a Jew or a cucked pawn for them, and you don't even take care enough to conceal it.
Here is my email. Please have your supervisor message me. You faggots need people that know what they're doing, as you clearly don't.
2zdi8g+ch3kce2hbcias@sharklasers.com
1d9f8a No.4899438
>>4899352
tru im a trump staffer, and tbh fam……. Every single pro-trump thread, and post, on both /pol/s, in every live rally chatroom…. has been me.
It was me all along.
Trump has no support. It's just me. … It's just me….
His crowds are Project Bluebeam holograms tbh.
Sorry guys.
1d9f8a No.4899445
>>4899438
sorry guys it was me all along guys
im sorry for getting you hyped
im sorry. it was me… it was me the whole time. only me
1d9f8a No.4899450
>>4899445
im sorry it was me the whole time
5dee03 No.4899465
>>4899393
When someone's rhetoric relies on as feels as much as this you can kind of write them off. There's nothing to refute and you will NEVER convince them with facts. Posters like 2d5110 are literally just right-presenting leftists. They don't have a nuanced view of any political concept, it all boils down to extremely simplistic generalizations, and this shows their entry-level status to political discourse.
Basically filter them and move on
d9b7cb No.4899473
>>4888271
>Is Trump the perfect red herring
FTFY
And yes, when he magically concedes the election to whoever is running for the Democuck GOP, the country will burn in righteous fire.
His policies sound great on paper, but he would literally have no obligation to follow any of them, much like we've seen with Obummer.
I wait for the day when Trump isn't elected president and the veil is lifted from everyone's eyes.
a4548e No.4899482
>>4888271
>Is Trump the perfect candidate?
Yes
>Do you disagree with any of his policies at all?
No
Nice consensus cracking attempt, Daniel.
02c1be No.4899514
>>4899473
>but he would literally have no obligation to follow any of them
Hold on there, when has any politician been accountable for their empty promises?
a7c3a0 No.4899520
File: 1454999189317.jpg (79.88 KB, 640x427, 640:427, 1380313682_eric-trump-dona….jpg)

Trump isn't the perfect candidate as much as he is the perfect man in terms of running a massive company with it's hands in everything while simultaneously being the patriarch of an amazing family.
In his mind he only needs to explain the current state of the US and easy to understand, common sense solutions because his actions define him as a man. He's one of those guys who when you pay him to do a job, you don't have to ask him to explain how he's going to do it. His track record shows that he will get it done at a low cost to you and create a perfect product. He'll say, "Don't worry, I'll take care of it…" and that's all you need to hear.
The man literally fucking builds things, that's the foundation of every great civilization right there.
Our country needs a leader who can set an example for how we need to live our lives and better ourselves as men. If we keep electing corporate cock sucking Zionist puppets with bankers hands up their asses, what kind of example does that set for our people?
His praise for Israel shows not only that nationalism works in the country, but it reveals to the world the hypocrisy in Israel's advocacy for Marxist policies that only destroy civilization.
And on top of ALL that, he loves the working man more than other rich people. He isn't talking in a tone that everyone can understand because he's a good actor, oh no. That's just the way he talks, he's a straight shooter.
There is literally NOBODY else running more qualified to govern the United States of America than a successful billionaire like Trump who made his living building things, not destroying or exploiting them.
THAT is how he shuts down all these low life politicians and rises above them, because he is a real human being, he is a man of honor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPOvePioFF0
cbcd19 No.4899530
Donald Trump is reducing the income tax of the richest Americans to a stupidly low rate, which means more money for them to put in the banks and less government revenue, more debt for our future.
Aside from the 0% tax on the poor, his and other GOP members tax plans are just full retard. I would prefer Bernie's or Hillary's.
d9b7cb No.4899547
>>4899514
Exactly.
They will literally say whatever is needed to make them popular.
They were the hall monitors and brown noses at school. They were always on the different committees and they were always in the right clubs as well.
Trump is literally like any other white, rich, Republican president that has ever run.
Though I do have to give the Trump shills and astroturfers credit.
They do seem to have a grasp on our culture, even if it's not the correct one.
They'll learn.
5dee03 No.4899554
>>4899530
Put more effort into your post than that
cbcd19 No.4899571
>>4899554
You first. What do you want to know?
cbcd19 No.4899585
>>4899530
And these tax cuts would be much better for the top 1% than Bush's tax cuts were.
02c1be No.4899605
>>4899547
If he really is just trying to sweet talk people he really choose a smart way of doing it by going the exact opposite of everyone, getting people and the entire mad as fucking hell, but at the same time sounding honest enough that people believed him.
It's brilliant really, free marketing, and so crazy no one can really tell if he's full of shit, just trolling or completely honest.
/pol/acks who support him are placing their money on the latter, because it's pretty much their only option there.
Even if he was just lying all along it's not like we had a better choice anyway.
5dee03 No.4899617
>>4899547
Seems like you don't really get it in any real sense. Some larpers might think Trump is going to save the white race and bring about the fourth reich… but he's obviously not going to. And who the fuck cares? The entire idea of Trump is that he gives our narrative a sense of legitimacy. Even if he's not elected, he's already done plenty of damage to the MSM narrative.
You're just too much of a defeatist, probably due to some serious depression or anxiety issues you've got. To which I say, stop fucking around on /pol/ and get some exercise. Also read books.
02c1be No.4899642
>>4899605
>entire media*
Time to head to bed for me I assume.
35e80e No.4899744
>>4899547
>don't vote, goy, just keep waiting for Hitler to be reincarnated
enjoy your defeatism.
074e73 No.4899763
>>4899530
>>4899585
Don't be fooled by kike over simplification, Trump is the only one pushing to drop tax deductions, the only tax deductions under trump are dependents. under sanders many remain and under the others all remain in place.
Mitt Romney openly admitted to only paying 15% in 2011 and that is because he took advantage of available deductions non of which have been removed, in fact now there are more.
These cucks don't make shitty over simplified facebook graphics just to share on /pol/ these are facebook AstroTurfers who are also JIDF or gov shills
16623f No.4899764
>>4892124
>The correlation to mercury being in shots was utter garbage since the amount of mercury in there was significantly less than what is found in a tuna sandwich, which needless to say does not cause autism.
Injecting mercury and digesting it are different. Injecting into the bloodstream increases bioavilibility, so you cannot compare these two RoA's on dose per dose.
>something's causing the autism
cbcd19 No.4899800
>>4899763
I still don't see the point of lowering taxes on the rich by 14%. It's fucking dumb.
85b5eb No.4899850
>>4899800
Because Tariffs are an infinitely better source of revenue generation than taxing your constituents. The only reason we have income tax is that we lowered our tariffs.
cbcd19 No.4899863
>>4899850
I support tariffs, but we're in a deficit already.
Trump's supposed tax cuts will put us deeper in, even if he does add new tariffs.
It's just a useless cut.
85b5eb No.4899923
>>4899863
He supports increased capital gains tax which is where a lot of people make their money anyway
074e73 No.4899955
>>4899800
>>4899863
He isn't lowering taxes on the rich though, he's lowering the income tax rate but also removing deductions which when added up can reach over 60% for the top 20% quite easily if they invest in the right things and file appropriately.
I repeat Mitt Romney under the same laws this year in 2016 will pay less than half of what you claim he will pay and it would remain the same or even be lower under clinton and far lower under jeb.
The difference between trump and all other candidates is deductions but you wont admit that because you are here to shill.
5e240b No.4900095
758596 No.4900106
>>4890333
Y'know, I really thought Trump had a 50% chance of being a covert kike puppet, but that video really spells it out.
>>4892257
>Obvious D&C thread, btw.
Don't be such a motherfucking pussy. Trump isn't Hitler 2.0 or The God Emperor of Mankind. Just because I'm voting for him doesn't mean I'm supposed to shut off my brain and perform mental gymnastics over the guy's shortcomings as a candidate.
6a3f64 No.4900643
>>4899473
>Obummer
Confirmed for middle-aged, non-imageboard native shill. Literally nobody says this but Baby Boomer forumkiddies.
6a3f64 No.4900684
>>4899850
>Tariffs
>Not a tax on constituents
Somebody doesn't understand how tariffs work. The idea is:
>American company sells product for $20
>Chinese company sells product for $15
>American government slaps tariff on imports of said product
>American company still selling for $20
>Chinese company now selling for $25
I.e., tariffs work by making foreign goods more expensive, not American goods less. And no, there is no magical government power for simply making the cost of a foreign manufacturer's product go up while keeping the price the same. Tariffs are always passed on to the consumer, except in the case of companies deliberately eating massive losses in the short term in order to gain market share in the long term.
3861c0 No.4900722
>>4888338
Alternative candidate?
shill
d14af7 No.4900731
i think a lot of the solutions and ideas he has are knee jerk reactions to problems no one seems to want to talk about. Ban all shit skins? Remove taco? Steal back American jobs? They all sounds good and i like them but they arent as feasible as we hope.
ff0a5f No.4900780
He's not perfect, but he's the best candidate.
I don't like his government spying stances. Also, I wish his 'muslim ban' would be a 'third would nation ban'.
a29530 No.4902483
Only things I really disagree with is Israel and the Muslim ban. Let me explain the latter part. Temporarily banning Muslims would likely get overturned by the Supreme Court. In addition, ISIS operatives will just feign conversion thus accomplishing nothing. Yeah you may have kept some criminals out but it would be wiser to just end all refugee immigration temporarily until we get our shit together.
352baf No.4902609
>>4894324
>Do you want him to come out and say kill all kikes?
No but he's not getting any bonuses points for having multiple kike in laws or being a self proclaimed Israel fanboy
>>4900722
I'm not voting, I live in the US not Australia.