/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>dealing with criticisms of Trump and the refutations of those criticisms?

We deal with them by ignoring them and allowing Trump to handle it himself, which he's been doing fantastically so far.

>>5207178

I agree. I didn't make this thread for Trump, but for me, and anyone like me that would just like to have this information at hand. I'm confident at this point that Trump is going to win anyway. This is just the icing on the cake.

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DEBUNKED: Trumps supposed "flip-flops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzfWJ6V5nyU

let me embed, damnit.

>>5207766

Great channel. Just subscribed, thanks anon.

I recommend anyone browsing the thread check out this link.

1. racist

prove it

2. apart of the establishment

the establishment has been trying to take him down

3. got his wealth from inheritance

wat

4. said million dollar loan was 'small'

"compared to what he has now" was his response, and he paid his father back.

dare ya to go into city real estate with any less and make a profit

5. he's stupid

compared to who? obama? bush? clinton? you don't turn millions into billions, have a best selling book and the best buildings without being smart.

6.

>>5207981

>>racist

How do I counter that claim specifically? Everytime I ask them to provide evidence he is racist they keep mentioning banning muslims and deporting illegal beaners. They keep harping on these two points even after I shoot them down. And in the end even if Trump is racist it isent a bad thing although this is something I dont expect any shitlib to grasp.

Honestly Trump is a conman, he took a 2 million dollar loan and went bankrupt and would be homeless or dead if he hadn't inhereted 600 million from his father.

>>5208083

no, YOUR butt smells

>>5208083

saged, reported and filtered

Everytime:

>HURR DURR he wants to fuck his daughter

These people have abosolutely 0 knowledge of anything, and don't even vote based on policies and especially facts.

>>5208036

That's a tough one. I don't think there is much you can do on that front. The problem is that today any attitude that isn't bending over backwards for non-white ethnicities is considered racist.

What I say:

1. Trump is emphatic in insisting he does not hate Mexicans, or Muslims.

2. If it was Canadians flooding the US job market and bringing drugs his position would apply to them.

I also like to add that America, like all countries, has an obligation to be a good neighbor. The way to help out Mexico, however, isn't to accept mass immigration, but to involve ourselves in their politics. It might sound nefarious, but it can't be denied: Mexico is in a serious crisis. The cartels basically run the country and Mexico is beyond the point of being able to deal with this without outside intervention. If we were to help Mexico get its shit together, Mexicans wouldn't WANT to come here in the first place. I don't know if this is a Trump policy though, or if he has made any analogous comments.

As far as Muslims go, I can't get around the fact that Sunni Islam has been in continuous conflict with the West since its inception. It's just a fact. It's a sane policy as far as I'm concerned, but I'm not aware of any responses that would "satisfy" anti-Trump voters.

>The Untruth About Donald Trump

>Since 1988, Donald Trump has been discussed as a potential United States presidential candidate, but when he officially announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015 the mainstream media refused to believe it. Over the next many months, Donald Trump would be attacked and criticized by the media – but were these criticisms legitimate? What is the Untruth About Donald Trump?

>0:43 - Donald Trump’s Strategy

>3:42 - Mainstream Media On Donald Trump

>5:25 - Trump Isn’t a Serious Candidate!

>6:44 - He Won’t File His Election Papers – Ignore Him!

>8:52 - Illegal Immigration, Border Wall, Rape and Crime

>16:18 - Univision, NASCAR, ESPN and Macy’s “Dump” Trump?

>18:22 - Is John McCain a War Hero?

>21:52 - Was Trump a Draft-Dodger?

>23:40 - Megyn Kelly, Rosie O’Donnell and the War on Women

>27:18 - Blood coming out of her wherever…

>28:55 - The Truth About The Bankruptcies

>32:18 - The Bible Gotcha!

>33:39 - Muslim Celebrations on September 11th

>35:52 - Did Trump Mock a Disabled Reporter?

>37:25 - Muslim Immigration Ban

>43:17 - Do Americans Support Trump’s Muslim Immigration Ban?

>44:38 - Muslim Databases?

>46:33 - Employing Illegal Immigrants?

>48:20 - Vladimir Putin

>50:09 - Anti-Semitic Comments

>51:26 - Comparisons to Adolf Hitler

>54:57 - Campaign Event Protestors

>56:28 - Old Joke About Dating His Daughter

>57:10 - Saturday Night Live

>58:09 - Trumps Inheritance and Wealth

>59:06 - Donald Isn’t Rich Enough to Fund His Campaign

>1:01:21 - Jeb Bush’s Personal Immigration Connection

>1:01:54 - Gun Control in Paris

>1:02:46 - Don’t Trust Trump With the Nuclear Codes!

>1:03:35 - Hillary Clinton’s ISIS Recruitment Video Claim

>1:04:10 - Close Down The Internet?

>1:05:00 - Carly Fiorina: Look at That Face!

>1:05:48 - Hillary Got Schlonged

>1:06:13 - Go After Terrorists Families

>1:07:00 - George W. Bush Kept Us Safe

>1:07:50 - He’s a Rapist

>1:08:30 - Deportation Force

>1:09:31 - The “Donald Trump is a Hillary Clinton Plant” Conspiracy

>1:09:53 - Campaign Finance Hypocrisy

>1:10:50 - Oprah as Vice President?

>1:11:08 - Donald Trump is Batman

>>5207981

So where are people getting this "he borrowed 200 million" figure from? That's the number I'm always hearing.

>Donald Trump Endorsed By The Ku Klux Klan? Nope.

>Did Donald Trump refuse to repudiate the endorsement of the Ku Klux Klan? Nope. Did Donald Trump refuse to repudiate the endorsement of former Ku Klux Klan member David Duke? Nope. Is the media creating another biased and inaccurate attack in an attempt to discredit Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump. Yep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ggeJSrvd0

>More Anti-Donald Trump Propaganda - Rebutted!

>Donald Trump's proposal to shut down Muslim immigration until the government fixes its vetting process sparked remarkable, though predictable, outrage across the globe. One of the most common criticisms is that such a ban is unconstitutional. Stefan Molyneux examines the legality of Trump's proposal and addresses other criticisms that have been hurled at the United States presidential candidate.

>Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler! | Thomas Sowell - Rebutted Again!

>>5207653

>wanting to watch such trash

you already know what le current year man is going to say.

>>5208426

OP here. To be honest, it's the first time I've ever seen a clip of this guy, or heard him, as far as I can remember. I only knew him from /pol/ memes.

>>5208270

Good stuff, so far. Thanks.

>>5208481

Yeah, that one has always been easy for me to refute. I say something along the lines of:

"I hardly know anyone that has gotten one business off the ground successfully. Four bankruptcies is peanuts compared to the 70 or so businesses and ventures Trump has been involved in. Also Chapter 11 bankruptcy etc."

What about accusation that Trump's net worth is actually much lower than he says it is? I mean I guess this one will be moot once he releases his information, but it would be interesting to know where the hell they are getting their "facts" from.

>>5207047

>Trump claims he cares about American workers, but sent his production to Mexico and China

I don't have anything to refute this, other than a weak "Yeah well, Bernie says the minimum wage should be $15/hr but he pays them around $10/hr"

The 200 million dollar inheritance is wrong. He got the company from his father with the intent to continue it. He also has 4 siblings so would have had to split it 5 ways. Also, the investment angle doesn't jive because since the 70s there have been several huge stock failures. It might be a general return rate of 7% but that doesn't matter when you lost all of your money in a company. No refunds.

Any measurement of net value is bullshit. Trump's fortune is tied in Real Estate which is opposite of liquid, sure if he sold all of his property tomorrow he would have 4.5 billion but his property is worth way more. Also one of his stores is worth more than Romney, confirmed by politifact :^)

Maybe the Trump name brand isn't worth $4 billion but he did shut down Macy's with a single tweet. And after 6 months all the groups who dumped him are coming back, like NASCAR.

Carter did Mooslim bans too, if Farook hadn't been radicalized by his shrew wife he would have never killed 14 people he has to go back regardless

Trump just wants to send Mexicans back. Obama's Fast and Furious has lead to dozens of civilian massacres with the same military grade weapons he sold them.

Trump is also the only candidate against nuclear war with Russia. Even Bernie Sanders supports it. And let's not forget the sitting president is the first ever to kill a US citizen by drone strike and murdered those French doctors in October. Compared to that, Trump is a saint.

>>5208200

Trump made a joke about the women he's dated and people took it at face value. That's literally all that happened.

>>5208759

The thing is, he doesn't exactly direct his criticism at businesses for leaving the country so much as at the government for creating conditions that inevitably lead to businesses leaving.

As far as his production being moved out of the country, I've never heard this before. Is it true? Seems like something his opponents would have brought up in a debate, yet I've never heard this before.

>>5208964

I've said this and that it was a joke that everyone laughed at whole decade ago but they don't even listen and just keep repeating it over and over like zombies.

>>5208759

It's a question of culpability.

He'd be a failed businessman if he took a hit on labor like that. Idealism is fun in politics but in practice just means you lose to the guy who doesn't give a shit.

The problem is not the person doing it, it's the politician that allows it. Hence why Trump is trying to become a politician: he wants to stop this sort of thing.

You can also challenge them personally on their own actions. Don't they love america, poor people, mexicans, etc (whatever their "thing" is), and point out at a dollar-expense, they could be making choices that benefit those people. So why aren't they taking those cost? Because they either can't afford it, or want to buy something else, or don't think it's their responsibility. Whatever their excuse is, point out if they would be so generous as to allows Trump that same excuse.

>>5208627

It begs the question of "Why does this matter?" Maybe point out that the accusation implies they would like him more if he was richer/like him less if they found he wasn't as rich? So they really just want the richest guy they can find?

They can say "Well it just means he is a liar". In that case, point out they need hard evidence for this accusation, and not "I was told his net wealth might not be as high as it was, and so I am going to call him a liar now on the assumption that it will come true that he isn't as super wealthy as he claims". Which is fucking retarded, but it's how people operate these days it seems. It's basically feminist logic: "He is called a rapist, so let's convict him now as if he WAS a rapist, and see what happens later."

>>5209008

That may be because a lot of people get their news directly from comedy central, where they just make fun of the current events.

The guy doing the nightly report was one of the first to start saying "this guy wants to bang his daughter!"

>>5208036

Racism is holding something against someone strictly because of their race and nothing else.

Deporting ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico is not racist since: they have broken the law and are criminals, and implying "mexican" is just a race, and not actually a legal entity that is a nation. He isn't going to just start rounding up anyone who looks brown with a unibrow.

Cause if he is me and my wife are fucked lol

Islam is not a race. There doesn't need to be any more explanation than that. You are allowed to hate ideologies. It's not a protected class…yet.

>>5209101

I mean think about it. Americans are literally being "educated" into opposing Trump. Ok, I actually live in Southern California so that might explain it as well.

>>5209045

Any idea what the basis for their speculation regarding his net worth is? Is it just wishful thinking? Are they quoting "experts"?

>>5209101

I highly suspect that this exact reason is WHY he is stomping. Remember how the establishment defeated Ron Paul? They, quite literally, ignored him. Jon Leibowitz had a hysterical little bit about all the times fox news just ignored ron paul every chance they got, even when it didn't make sense.

If everyone just ignored Trump, it wouldn't be taking off quite like it is.

And it is this exact sort of vocal opposition by people who you can disagree with only at personal risk, that Trump is so popular. "We are going to say merry Christmas again". It's a reconnection of authenticity to the symbols of the information that it represents. Every "professor" who openly mocks Trump just reminds people of why they were voting for him in the first place.

>>5208220

Bring up how unfair it is to legal immigrants who have to wait years to get in. Oh all they have to do is go to mexico first and they are instant citizens?

>>5209187

I don't really know. Sometimes leftist memes sneak in and their origin is never really clear. Mostly because of colluding between media outlets, a little bit of information will (quite literally) appear on every channel, all on the same day at the same time, out of nowhere and spoken of as fact. It's why no one has any real reason to think of "200 million" since it's based on nothing I presume, but it's the number they stick with and start peppering you with it.

>>5208983

Well this is from 2011, but I did find this article

http://archive.is/A0V8Z

>>5209045

Valid point. I was just thinking about an article I read a few weeks back that said America is now competitive with China in manufacturing costs because we have more advanced automation, and our energy prices are dirt cheap because of the shale gas boom.

But you know who's not in the TPP? China.

Because this "trade deal" isn't about selling Fords, iGadgets, or any other American goods to Malayasia or whatever shithole countries that are on the deal, but is about opening the door to send all of our manufacturing from China to some new asian country.

Our politicians are consistently selling us out to foreign interests while they line their pockets with tax payer money and foreign "gifts and donations."

https://archive.is/tfkI3

Trump can beat Hillary in NY, even without Bloomberg running.

If Trump can keep NY from going to the Democrats, it's all over. And this means that Cruz's claim that Trump is unelectable is wrong.

>>5209681

This is fantastic news, if true.

THANK YOU BASED CRUZ FOR BEING STUPID ENOUGH TO INSULT NEW YORK CITY

>>5208036

How to counter it? Racism, a word made up by Jewish Bolsheviks, was used to browbeat dissidents. Modern English defines it as "believing your race is superior to another race." Trump has never said he thinks whites are a superior race, so the claim is proven false. As best, they can call him a bigot.

more threads like this need to exist. /pol/ doesn't need to be a tumblr tier echo chamber only for trump memes instead of bernie memes. we really should get a good ground work of trump facts to argue with.stay vigilant fags

anyways if you're ever faced with a immigration question from anyone simply just bring up europe, especially cologne and the failure of sweden and how the state can't even afford the number of migrants it's taking in.

>>5208759

what production? trump is in real estate, and everyone he employs is local to where his buildings are located i'd imagine. he doesn't produce anything.

>>5214143

Merch and clothing lines. But most of that is subcontracted anyway, so it is kinda silly.

>>5218026

>Not just pointing out greatest ally has a wall and what and if they say that does not work they are some sort of anti semite.

Also if they still mention if walls don't work because they will just "tunnel under them", then why didn't the chosen just tunnel under the nazi's walls to save themselves.

Make sure you also throw in some oy veys in between for maximum effect.

>>5207766

Spread this

The best thing you can do is accept he's not perfect, he is still just a man. Good, but not perfect.

Build him up as some flawless godlike figure and you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

>>5218026

he kicks up coast guard patrols.

it's much harder for someone to get into a boat and sail across the gulf than it is to just walk across unpatrolled desert.

>>5208036

Because it has nothing to do with their race and everything to do with individual actions.

>>5208270

>>5208280

>>5208330

Make sure you share these videos with friends and family.

>>5218026

1. The journey to the United States is already very difficult for illegal immigrants, and a lot of them die along the way. This will make it immeasurably more difficult.

2. Flip the tables on the person you are debating with and ask them to provide you with proof (e.g. past examples) demonstrating that walls don't work. You have common sense on your side. A well secured wall along the entire border should keep out most migrants.

>>5222838

come to think of it, 2nd one is prob edit

Alright. How to refute this critisicm?

Trumps children are all maried to jews, his grandchildren are jewish, he has multiple casinos in Israel, and he is best buddies with benjamin netanyahu/videos of him swearing to Israel.

>>5222854

The second one is a fake on two counts.

1) The tags are switched. Look at the color of the hat behind the tag.

2) Genuine Trump hats are made in America, that is a photo of a Chinese knockoff.

>>5207047

>Trump Criticisms and their Refutations

There is literally only ONE criticism of Trump:

He won't sell us out to those who own the media….

Which is why the media doesn't want him elected.

Which is why he SHOULD be elected.

Q.E.D. fuck the media.

>>5207047

First pic isn't a real quote. No one would call /pol/acks great kids.

>>5223275

He has put his potential political career on the line many times by openly supporting policies, and making statements that would be unpopular with wealthy Jewish interests. He could not known ahead of time that Americans would respond so well to him. As the campaign has moved forward, sure, he has figured out that brazen and honest statements work, but in the beginning he was taking a serious risk. It takes balls to do and say the things Trump does.

Also consider the fact that he openly told Jewish donors at an event "I don't want your money" (from memory). Anyone have the link to that video?

>>5209129

I started college in 2002, believe me it was no different for Bush's reelection. This is nothing new. They were seething with rage, racial hatred of rural whites, and endlessly circle jerked about how much smarter they were than the president. That was the single most vicious concentrated attack on one candidate I'd ever seen in my life, even moreso than Trump (for Trump there's more dishonesty and shilling, but not the same level of hatred and poison that they had for Bush.) That's saying a lot because they hate Trump. My father listened to Howard Stern at the time, his entire show on the lead up to the election was a full 3 hours everyday of why Bush is so stupid and why rednecks are so stupid. It backfired miserably, they lost, they were embarrassed, and it eventually led to Obama. This anon >>5209190 is right, this kind of thing helps Trump in a weird way. It motivates his support and polarizes the people, of which whites are still a majority.

Nonthreatening cucks like Mittens and McCain simply got smeared with the old white racist republican and then people would move on. Nobody obsessed on them the way these professors, college morons, and media are obsessing about Trump.

>>5218026

remind them that it has been done before

>what is the Berlin wall

>what is Israel's west bank wall

>doland trump wants to start WW3 and nuke the world

>against iraq and afghanistan wars

See here for an indepth response to the Jon Oliver video

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/48fp8q/the_definitive_guide_as_to_why_john_olivers?

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>>5209804

The rationale behind it is that Trump would be repellent to right leaning dems or independents, which is all the GOP tries to chase down to try to win elections. Of course the GOP is in total denial of reality in this case (as they often are). Trump has better cross-over appeal than anyone else running and their time-honored tradition of picking the most moderate cuck possible to run has resulted in more failures and near-failures than successes and that was in times when the demographics were more favorable to the Republican party.

>>5222826

Demand a fucking refund. I'm sure you didn't take a philosophy class to hear ranting and raving about political candidates and it sounds like you could make a cogent case to your school's administration that your prof isn't giving you what you paid for by virtue of wasting so much of the limited amount of time soapboxing about a topic that has nothing to do with the class.

With all the shills going full force tonight we're going to have to clean up this retarded H1B business

>>5237852

Can you explain the issue briefly? I don't quite understand it.

>>5237893

The issue is that Trump supports non-white immigration and Trumpfags are trying to delude themselves into thinking that he doesn't.

If anyone points this out, the go "lalalala shill shill shill!" and they throw a fit.

Fuck you and your election, racial holy war is the only thing that can save us. Trumpfags simply a subset of electionfags, and electionfags are anti-white.

Trump BBB rating is B

http://archive.is/NnViy

>>5237984

>and they throw a fit

>throws a fit

Look, Trump is still the most anti-immigration candidate of them all, we have to start somewhere, don't you think?

Or we could just wait for Hitler, right goy? :^)

>>5237984

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-let-in-more-white-immigrants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX4wkOGqSic

Remember in the debate how he said that we to brain drain the world and ==let more college students who graduate here stay==

That made me remember his old 2013 CPAC speech about exactly this topic where he said

>"Now I say to myself, why aren't we letting people in from Europe?" Trump continued. "Nobody wants to say it, but I have many friends from Europe, they want to come in."

>"Tremendous people, hard-working people," he said. "They can't come in. I know people whose sons went to Harvard, top of their class, went to the Wharton School of finance, great, great students. They happen to be a citizen of a foreign country. They learn, they take all of our knowledge, and they can't work in this country. We throw them out. We educate them, we make them really good, they go home – they can't stay here – so they work from their country and they work very effectively against this. how stupid is that?

Get fucked kike

>>5209582

that first picture isn't true. He grabbed the SS guy's neck after he got up from the slam, but he was out of the press pin and when confronted he tells the SS "fuck you fuck you" and possibly pushes him right before he gets slammed

Does anyone want to tackle the H1B controversy?

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>>5244903

see

>>5239805

Good.

You know how Anti-Trump folk like to go on and on about bankruptcies or failed business ventures?

Trump Steaks, Trump College, Trump Vodka, etc.

They don't realize Trump literally has dozens if not hundreds of business "ventures/companies" under his umbrella corp.

Vast majority are successful.

>>5237984

The guy posting is one of the many faggots who came from cuck-chan.

They literally shit up every thread using despair techniques.

>>5222826

>Just a follow up on this post: my intro to Greek philosophy Prof spent anywhere between 30-40min ranting about Trump today. This is literally an every day thing.

40 min ranting about Trump? Shouldn't he be teaching philosophy?

>>5248305

the libs and GOPe like to focus on failure because they are able to relate

>>5248595

Despair tactics. Rearranging if not openly omitting facts.

>>5208911

>He got the company from his father with the intent to continue it.

He got in the real estate business at 22 with the family business, so of course he inherited what his father built. I don't understand all those people whining about his father's wealth. What was he supposed to do? Abandon the family business and start from scratch just to prove he's a good businessman?

>>5248945

the point they try to make is somethig like "hurrr with that kind of money anyone can be successful"

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>>5208270

Thank you for the greentext

last bump from me

>>5248305

I actually had a discussion today about Trump today which started off me saying I was going to watch the New Orleans rally because i heard some crazy shit happened. They brought up his failed businesses and I brought up that running businesses has a very low success rate and most people end up closing down but Trump has only stopped 12 ventures and if he is to believed a lot of them like Trump Ice and Vodka are actually still around but only served at his clubs and still owns 150 other companies. Then she I know >she but there was another guy there and I'm trying to just work on demoralizing them or maybe work toward neutrality toward Trump instead of hatred/disgust brought up 200 million which I laughed and told her it was 1 million dollar loan which he paid back and he is now worth 10 billion dollars. After that she sort of just stopped with 'Well you must have different sources than me' I feel that qualifies as a win. I heard her later bitching and moaning about me to another girl outside 'he was telling me I was wrong' as I was leaving work. I don't know if she realized I could hear her through the door but she told me to have a good night and I cheerfully replied that she do the same.

New York Values mentioned = mention Antonin Scalia & Teddy Roosevelt

WHEN THEY BRING UP "SMALL LOAN OF A MILLION DOLLARS"

This one is easy when you know how economics work (which berniefags dont, which is why they mock that quote)

He invested that money in a way that turned him into a billionaire, ask the person youre conversing with how many college students managed to turn their $50,000 student loan into 50 million, because its the same math. This works especially well on bernie, because they all think that student loans were forced on them so they should be erased.

I'm copying this from the sticky because I needed answered:

How is H1B not high-skilled [in reference to Trump's clarification]. That is literally what it is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa

>The regulations define a "specialty occupation" as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor[1] including but not limited to biotechnology, chemistry, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, accounting, business specialties, theology, and the arts, and requiring the attainment of a bachelor's degree or its equivalent as a minimum[2] (with the exception of fashion models, who must be "of distinguished merit and ability").[3] Likewise, the foreign worker must possess at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent and state licensure, if required to practice in that field. H-1B work-authorization is strictly limited to employment by the sponsoring employer.

Then look from his own policy website:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

>Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program's lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities.

This response is unsatisfactory.

ONLY ROSIE O'DONNELL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMLMk4fIWKg

In a recent debate, Ted Cuck called out Donald Trump on supporting Shillary in 2008. His response was basically "it was for business", but what policies did Shillary push back then that would have given Trump the incentive to support/vote for her?

>>5278763

There's also an interview from 2007 of Trump saying he likes Hillary because she hangs around good people. In the same video, he says he associates most with democrats and that the economy does best under them. If there's an explanation for it, l'd like to know.

>>5278763

He bought them out. How hard is that to understand?

>>5282464

Answered. That Argument was addressed about a year ago concernshill.

>>5207269

Most of the criticisms of Trump are very hollow. Not all of his ventures have been profitable or a good idea (Trump University, Trump Real Estate, etc.) So because he tried to make these enterprises and they failed, then he is a failure? Pathetic argument, wow.

What you need more is a list of facts that most people don't know.

1) His daughter converted to Judiasm and married a Jew. (obviously useful for dispelling nazi accusations)

2) He went before congress in 1999 to propose a one-time tax on individuals and trusts worth over 10 million to eliminate the national debt and ensure the solvency of social security.

3) He's never drank, or smoked and never does drugs. This is because he saw alcohol wreck his older brother who died at age 43 as an alcoholic in 1981.

4) He's had more black people vote for him in the primaries than any Republican in history. (can't find citation, heard it's true)

5 A Palm Beach lawyer once called him a 'reverse tornado' because he builds everything in my path, instead of destroying it.

keep em comin, fam

>>5223396

my Dad, who has been a bluepilled Democrat pretty much his entire life, knows I support Trump and he came at me with these juvenile talking points he was fed by (((the media))) critical of Trump.

All I had to say was "Trump said in 2008 that he was disappointed Nancy Pelosi had not impeached George W Bush. When confronted with that quote in the 8th debate, he hadn't changed his mind, calling Bush a "liar." Now my Dad says "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and will vote for Trump in MI primaries.

>>5282781

oy vey l guess l'm a shill now for requesting a clarification on something.

>>5278763

I'm not sure about the specifics of what she did when she was in the Senate but she was a Senator from 2001 to 2009 in Trump's home state:

http://www.senate.gov/states/NY/senators.htm

bumpo

>>5287605

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>>5207047

THE BEST WAY THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS TO WRECK TRUMP IS BY ATTACKING HIS BUSINESS REPUTATION

To that end they got their own gay foam boi, the Rubot, to accuse Trump of hiring Polish illegals.

Well from /pol/ack land we have a rebuttal

https://youtu.be/tlH_QIb78x0 (can't embed because duplicate)

Start watching vid related at 8:35 and make sure to turn english CC on

TL;DW

>Trump's contractor hires subcontractor to demolish building.

>Subcontractor is a liar (window cleaning company, never demolished a building before) that hires illegal polish labor

>Still would have worked out ok, except that unions show up and bankrupt subcontractor by forcing union rates (and siphoning most of the extra cash off the workers in the form of union dues)

>Trump says fuck it, goes over the heads of both his contractor and subcontractor and directly takes all the resulting unpaid (mostly illegal polish) workers onto his payroll - paying almost half a million more than he expected to - because fuck it, the job needs to get done and these people need to be paid

>Years later some union asshole sues his company and forces Trump to settle for a million out of court.

>The workers never see a cent of the settlement money.

GOOD GUY TRUMP

MAKE SURE TO MEME THIS TO THE TRUMPENFUHRER THROUGH TWITTER

=GOD BLESS AND MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN==

>>5282832

Speaking of Trump University, Donald just uploaded this video refuting many points brought up against it

>TrumpCucks on suicide watch.

Nobody even questions the fact that the media could literally just cut him off. As a matter of fact, they could have just completely disregard him since the beginning.

But no, they give trump the obama package in media coverage (more coverage than all candidates combined since the start). The largest amount of free publicity any candidate has ever received and we are all soppoused to believe the jews are this dumb and trump "fools them into responding".

Trump's whole family is in a relationship with jews. His daughter married into a jewish elite family. His political director was an aipac political director.

His businesses are governed by jews.

The jews aren't "this dumb".

This is psychological warfare. Even when you leave a level of deception, you'll fall into another one. This is a web, a maze, a matrix of deception. When you leave one, you go into another one, until you realize your favorite youtuber was a lie and then you go into another one because you lack ability to see that the truth needs to be worked for by yourself. No one will give it to you. You have to go out and seek it if you want it. The jews know this so they give you a comfy lifestyle with pre packaged perceptions of reality nicely wrapped up for you on tv or online. Fully packed with instructions on how to behave in public (politically correct bs, feminism, emotional politics, ignorance is strenght, war is peace, freedom is slavery).

This is what Trump fanboys buy into. Another justin bieber for grown ups until the next one who "takes the throne".

They can't entertain a belief without fully believing in it.

It is either trump 100% or you are a shill.

If you see trump as a stepping stone they panic like the jew when it is exposed. Nothing to say but attack and go on the defensive. You either believe exactly as told or get out of their way. You can't have 98% similar beliefs, that is completely unacceptable to them.

>>5288942

In cont of above^

>TrumpCucks will be the ones demanding we "stop the terrorist".

>TrumpCucks will be the ones pushing the whole country into debt by waging more endless wars.

>TrumpCucks completely oblivious to Israeli and US relations. All of it.

>TrumpCucks only will get butthurt and completely disregard these arguments because it hurts their "feelers" and these topics are uncomfy to them.

>TrumpCucks gone cuck themselves and the whole country like the US did after 9/11.

>TrumpCucks whispering it was real in our eyes… Before they repeat the cycle of American Democracy.

>>5289018

This is just complete bullshit. I've never seen a single person even a shill exhort those "beliefs" Every Trump supporter I've seen has been pro-truth to all of those "allegations" even if it hurt Trump but this is purely hypothetical as none of these statement are remotely true.

If your scrounged the archive like a jew desperately trying to give his pathetic indignance a ring of truth, you might find one statement that shakily supports your list of bull.

>>5208280

Made all the worse by the fact Duke left the fucking Klan decades ago. It would be like George Dubya saying he isn't a big fan of strawberries and kike media spinning it as "The US plans criminalize strawberry possession"

Still insane how people don't see the way they're being played, let alone fucking tolerating it

>>5288942

> jews are this dumb

Kikes worship money. That's it. Trump brings viewers, ratings, moar shekels. It's that simple. Kikes *are* that stupid. Follow a trail of shekels right into an oven, the fools will.

>>5208275

Thin air.

another lie from El Rato:

Meet Donald Trump’s sister, the tough, respected federal judge Ted Cruz called a ‘radical pro-abortion extremist’

http://archive.is/Z1Sre

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/08/meet-donald-trumps-sister-the-tough-federal-judge-ted-cruz-called-a-radical-pro-abortion-extremist/

And like the Donald, she’s never been much for political correctness. “I stand second to none in condemning sexual harassment of women,” she said in a speech in 1992. “But what is happening is that every sexy joke of long ago, every flirtation, is being re-called by some women and revised and re-evaluated as sexual harassment. Many of these accusations are, in anybody’s book, frivolous. … Frivolous accusations reduce, if not eliminate, not only communication between men and women but any kind of playfulness and banter. Where has the laughter gone?”

This is the woman who is on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, is age 78 and was characterized darkly by Ted Cruz as a “radical pro-abortion extremist,” the type of judge he says Donald Trump would bring to the Supreme Court if given the chance. (Trump jokingly spoke of putting his sister on the high court, followed by a quick disclaimer that, of course, he was just kidding.)

Cruz’s sole citation for labeling her an “extremist” was a opinion she wrote in 2000 for a three-judge panel striking down a New Jersey law banning “partial birth abortions” — she called the law so broad and vague that it could be read to ban almost any abortion at any stage.

“You know,” Cruz also said, “the one person he [Trump] has suggested that would make a good justice is his sister,” who, he explained pointedly, was “appointed by Bill Clinton,” adding that “she is a hard-core pro-abortion liberal judge. And he said she would make a terrific justice.”

Cruz failed to point out, among other things, that Barry was first appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan [in 1983], that the outcome of the abortion ruling was dictated by a Supreme Court decision on a nearly identical law and that conservative Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. concurred in Barry’s judgment, albeit not in in the legal reasoning stated in her opinion.

(…)

But Cruz’s portrayal of Barry as an “extremist” and “liberal,” coupled with critiques by other conservative commentators, has also stirred the anger of a number of lawyers familiar with her work on the 3rd Circuit, most notably a lawyer, Matthew Stiegler, who also authors a blog, the CA3, which reports on the goings-on of that court.

“Judge Barry is moderate-conservative Republican centrist,” Stiegler said in an email. “She is widely respected and thoroughly mainstream,” he wrote on his blog, describing Cruz’s accusation as an “effort to smear” her.

(…)

That prompted Ramesh Ponnuru, writing in the National Review in August to call Barry “a pro-abortion extremist judge” for “writing one of those heated judicial decisions in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion.” Cruz took it from there.

Stiegler, on his blog, fired back, calling Barry’s ruling “aggressively limited. It treats pro-life policy views with respect but decides the appeal based on logic and precedent, not policy. The opinion is competent, professional, and utterly mainstream. If this opinion makes Judge Barry a radical extremist, then so is 98 percent of the federal judiciary.”

>>5278763

There's no clear answer to this yet?

>It was for business

That's vague, and understandably so, but this is some decent ammo for Cruz and his supporters. I hope Trump has a plan.

>>5208083

Don't you have a foam party you should be at?

>Some people say Trump is a Nazi.

>Other people say Trump is a Zionist.

Can some kind anon post that image that shows Jews telling the goyim that Trump is a Zionist, and Jews telling other Jews that he's a Nazi? It refutes the above argument.

Would like to see addressed:

1. Criticism of Trump avoiding the draft with "bullshit excuses"

2. Supposedly threatening McCain, i.e. "he'll find out"

>>5297113

That whole family is fucking godlike.

I don't even bother. Any publicity is good publicity. The anti-Trump craze in the media and general (liberal) public has helped him become this popular in polls.

Did Trump genuinely want Oprah as VP back in 2000? Friend is giving me shit for this.

It's a good video posted about a month ago.

there's other videos here, I haven't watched them all:

https://www.youtube.com/user/NiskeyGames/videos

>>5333362

good idea. I would have put:

-the mexican drug lord

-a jihadist in Syria

-the saudi prince who is Rupert Murdoch's partner

-George "NWO" Bush (the father)

but the list of enemies is too long to be summarized with a few pictures.

Somebody should start a new thread in which we list all the people who are Trump's political enemies with references.

That list should convince everyone that Trump is American nationalism fighting the forces of Globalism.

>>5333362

good idea. I would have put:

-the mexican drug lord

-a jihadist in Syria

-the saudi prince who is Rupert Murdoch's partner

-George "NWO" Bush (the father)

but the list of enemies is too long to be summarized with a few pictures.

Somebody should start a new thread in which we list all the people who are Trump's political enemies with references.

That list should convince everyone that Trump is American nationalism fighting the forces of Globalism.

[2nd try let me post]

With everyone calling Trump a hate monger and calling his rallies and supporters dangerous maybe they could be reminded about Kenneth Gladney. I never knew about this until a bit ago, but apparently he was at a townhall forum about Obamacare passing out Don't Tread On Me flags and buttons and some union thugs from SEIU beat him up. They had been there to shill for Obamacare. Embed related and this link is the fight footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w

>>5208036

In the banning Muslims category, point out that during every previous war the US has fought, the second it began, all travel and immigration between the US and the countries we were fighting was cut off. If they go "buh buh buh muh not all muslims," point out this argument never stopped us from blocking immigration during wartime in the past and is one of the major reasons almost no major battles have been fought on US territory in almost every war. If you want to bring your argument to the next level, point out examples of Middle Eastern and Islamic lifestyle being incompatible with western ideology (Nice point to give Libtards the choice between their fags and women or muslims)

>>5208270

>implying the average normie will watch an hour and a half long video

These people live off memes and media sound bites. No one is going to watch that

>>5282832

>5 A Palm Beach lawyer once called him a 'reverse tornado' because he builds everything in my path, instead of destroying it.

>he builds everything in my path

Hi, Don. Good luck!

Bottom of the catalog. Last minute bump.

>>5208036

a great refute to the whole "banning muslims thing" is to bring up how Carter (a Democunt) banned iranians during the Iran hostage crisis.

I would like to see /pol/ weigh in on this video.

Bump because it's at the bottom of the catalog.

Why am I the only one who checks the bottom of the catalog to save the good threads?

>>5207269

don't get into arguments with nitpicky people

they just hate Trump and are looking for excuses to hate him

just brush it off and ask them "do you want to get rape/murdered by an illegal/muslim?"

>>5222838

I don't get why people like Lopez. If people hate Trump based on conjecture like "he's racist! He's a misogynist!", didn't Lopez get a life saving kidney transplant from his wife, only for him to cheat on her after the fact?

>>5399724

i live in california, if i said that i'd get mobbed by angry ethnics

>new article says Trump winning with women despite using insults such as bimbo

>Women who just happen to be blind to a candidate that has no dignity, class or compassion are a big part of the problem

>Any woman who votes for Trump has no self respect.

FUCKING LIBERALS I SWEAR

>>5209113

Problem is its a religion tho. I get what he is trying for but just shut it all down then, not just for them u know.

TRUMP HAS NOT TAKEN A STANCE ON NFA

I'm sure he's being educated by his sons, but it's been two days now.

I WANT SOMETHING MORE THAN EMPTY RHETORIC

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME TRUMP

>>5208270

Sweet Jesus, June 16th? June 16th is Enoch Powell's birthday!

THE TRUTH IS IN HIM

>>5404424

Thinking I'll do one with media logos in the bucket

polite sage for off topic

>>5207047

A teacher of mine loves to push the liberal agenda and shit on Trump. This is a public high school in the US. What do

>>5404517

>>>5404517

>>you can't just go in and bomb them that's exactly what they want

>Holy shit, that is amazingly retarded

>>5404517

>you can't just go in and bomb them that's exactly what they want

Holy shit, that is amazingly retarded

>>5404846

>Mr. Commie, why are you pushing your politics in a public classroom?

>>5404846

Personal politics don't belong in the classroom unless people are chatting and the subject comes up. A teacher lecturing students on what to believe politically/who to vote for in the future is not why kids are supposed to go to school. What he is doing is spreading his Marxian propaganda, which is something that has been a problem in universities since the 60s but has now trickled down all the way to kindergarten. The problem is that it was not challenged enough and now you it is not challenged at all, so you are facing it as if in a casual forum.

You can decide how to handle this.

>>5207047

>1488 retweets

>6 million likes

just noticed that kek

>>5404517

>YOu can't just bomb them

What do you mean they want us to bomb them? If you think that bombing them will incite some reaction from the rest of the Muslims, you're wrong. They want ISIS gone as much as we do

Look, it's either boots on the ground or bombs. Your choice.

>Worst thing we could do is ignore

Yeah, you're right. IF we ignore them, they only grow stronger and kill more people. We need to take action now.

>Terrorists were created by the CIA

Then it's our mess to clean up, not the Middle East's

>>5208627

IIRC it's an issue with the FEC paperwork that is required by all candidates to submit once they commit to running for office. On the FEC forms the maximum amount of money you can claim for a single property is >$50million. Some of his buildings are worth more than $50million and with the nature of real estate you can never get the exact value for a building until it's time to sell.

Search for the Crippled America Audiobook on YouTube. There is a section about this within the book.

>>5404846

I've had this conversation many times.

Our democratic system of voting was created to ensure that everybody gets a voice in the running of the country. No one persons voice is more important than any other persons. That's fair: one person one vote. Now you, dear teacher, are certainly allowed to have your own opinions of who to vote for, but by voicing those opinions in the classroom, where you are THE authority figure, aren't you kind of pushing your opinion on us and depriving us of our own free thought? Because in the classroom, we're supposed to defer to your wisdom. You are in a position of authority and power similar to a priest or pastor in a church.

People vote for different leaders for all different reasons. My born-again inlaws voted for the last guy because of his stance on Israel, which I couldn't care less about. I voted for the guy who would cut taxes because to me, that's personally what's important. Do I care about the environment? Of course, but not as much as I care about the economy right now. The wisdom of crowds is a real thing. One person can be wrong, but if a hundred million people see value in Trump, who are you to insult them? When you tell us who to vote for, you're telling us what topics are important to you and you're saying that those topics should be important to us as well. And when you're doing it from a position of power, you're using your government-paid position to affect the votes of the people, which goes against everything the country stands for (fairness, not influence). That's what Trump is trying to fix, influence peddling. People behind the scenes controlling the direction of our government. And that's what the embedded elites in Washington are trying to protect–the ability of lobbyists and big corporations to control the decisions of government–not for the good of the people, but for their OWN good at the EXPENSE of the people. Now maybe Trump will turn out to be on the take like all the other politicians, but right now, he's the candidate who's claiming that he's against influence peddling, and you pretty much have to take him at his word. If you choose not to trust one guy, why would you choose to trust Hillary? Her record isn't very good if you're honest. Bernie's an out-and-out socialist, and we know how that's turned out in every other country that's ever tried socialism.

>>5405787

If you don't like the Trump Train rolling through your state, get out there and convince people of why they should vote your guy–with facts, not opinions, and certainly not while you're using a position of authority to bolster your arguments. Because opinions are like … noses … everybody's got one – except Voldemort of course. Having an opinion is fine, but not in a classroom if you're the teacher, or a church if you're the pastor, or from the mayor, or even from President Obama. When Obama comes out against Trump he's corrupting the process itself with his massive and undeniable influence. Don't you agree that the President has a HUGE influence on public opinion? Well, he's abusing that power by wielding it against his rivals. This is America, not the ancient Roman Empire. Let's try to evolve past the immorality of the Caesars.

Promoting a candidate while being paid as an authority figure is quite fascist, and that's what you claim Trump is. You think he'd work the system to get ahead. But our voting system is populist, and the will of the people should be obeyed, should it not? Isn't it tyranny to try to influence or override the will of the masses just because you disagree? If you think that's okay, answer me this– was the assassination of JFK justified because the assassin disagreed with his policies? I don't think so, but people are threatening to kill Trump online and he hasn't even won yet. It seems the left is far more tyrannical and psychotic than the right. But while you surely disagree with the assassination of JFK, you probably laugh at the threats against Trump. That shows your bias, and it's not good for you. If you joke about hating one leader, do you not see the hypocrisy in condemning others who hate another? It's like Jesus said, what you do to the least of these is what you do to me. How you treat your enemy will set the bar for discussion in this country–do you really want our society to degrade to the level of childhood taunts and threats? Because sure, Trump seems immature at times, but he's fighting hard to win the nomination against basically an entire planet that is against him. By attacking him in class like you do, you're allowing him to set the tone for YOU. By lowering yourself to his level, you're proving yourself no better than he is. And worse, when you give your political opinions in a classroom, you're abusing your position of authority. Authority figures must remain neutral, otherwise you're saying that your voice is more important than the young people in your care, which is a completely dictatorial attitude.

America is the greatest country in the world, or at least on paper it is. We're falling away from the constitution and all the things that originally made America great. We all have to live together here and we all have to respect each others' ideas. I disagee with many of the things said by all the candidates but I seek to understand why they say it, and I try to understand how their opinions can be seen as positive by different factions in the community. Trump, like the other candidates, is resonating with a big piece of the electorate. Instead of belittling them and their opinions, you should try to honestly understand how what he's saying will make a positive change in their lives. Because the majority of Americans now feel that Trump WILL make a positive change in their lives. As a wise man once said, "Seek first to understand", and then Make America Great Again.

>>5405787

Brilliant. Will use.

bumping a good thread

>Trump hates Mexicans

Being against illegal immigration isn't racist, it's enforcing a law that applies to all races.

>Trump wants to ban Muslims

Which is completely lawful:

"(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

(https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182)

And Democrat Jimmy Carter did the same thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R_s1hvIMGg

>Trump lied about the dancing Muslims on 9/11

Nope, vid related

>White Supremacists/KKK/Nazis/etc. support Trump

The members of the first Klan in the South were exclusively Democrats.

Both Hilary and Bill Clinton eulogised the KKK leader Robert Byrd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iUlFfcY2_4

KKK grand dragon endorses Hilary Clinton for President

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/15/kkk-grand-dragon-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president.html

Plus, far from just being supported by outspoken Commies, Sanders himself actually *is* one.

>Trump is a populist/Trump is divisive/We need to democratically shut down Trump rallies

So which is it?

Also

Trump is a populist = the democratic majority agrees agrees with him, and I only like democracy when it agrees with *me*.

Trump is divisive = Trump is divisive *among the other candidates* - he actually says something different than the Neo-Conservatism/Liberalism peddled by every single other candidate.

We need to democratically shut down Trump rallies = First we redefine the governmental system of detailed policies and doctrines known as Fascism as simply 'authoritarianism, censorship and intolerance', then we adopt these exact methods and shut down free speech with violence - 'non-fascistically' of course.

by the way, if you have never heard of the No Agenda Show podcast

http://www.noagendashow.com/

you should start listening to it regularly because they deconstruct the media's anti-Trump propaganda almost every week and it's a great resource if you're going to argue with people who believe what they see on TV and what they read in their favorite newspaper

by the way, if you have never heard of the No Agenda Show podcast

http://www.noagendashow.com/

you should start listening to it regularly because they deconstruct the media's anti-Trump propaganda almost every week and it's a great resource if you're going to argue with people who believe what they see on TV and what they read in their favorite newspaper

>>5208275

Absolute fabrication. That ($200M) was his Father's wealth that was distributed among all the Trump siblings after he passed.

Trump is not racist. He's a capitalist. Not only is his staff (like his National Spokesperson Katrina Pierson) multiracial, of different religious beliefs, and of both genders, his history in business and even on The Apprentice clearly shows that he doesn't discriminate based on anything except competence and ethics. If you walk into his company and have the qualifications and attitude to make him money and be a part of his winning team, you're hired. If you're the whitest WASP in the world but are a go-nowhere lazyass, you're fired. Racism costs money and good capitalists are therefore not racist. Does he want to temporarily block muslim immigration? Yes, because there are large groups of muslims threatening to kill us right now. DUH. To avoid using the information we have to protect ourselves and maintain peace and order "because we might hurt their feelings" is ridiculous and suicidal. We know ISIS and other terrorist groups are largely muslim, so we start by investigating muslims. If a terrorist group of senior citizens with dentures started blowing themselves up in coffee shops, Trump would start investigating senior citizens with dentures in coffee shops. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE.

Yes, muslim dudes, some innocents like yourself will be inconvenienced by the police work, but it's not Trump's fault, it's the fault of the chameleons you have allowed to infiltrate your ranks. If you want peace and quiet and the respect of the government again, EARN IT by turning in the radical Islamicists among you. You're on the inside, so you can pinpoint exactly who the troublemakers are. Trump can't. He has to use a shotgun approach until it's narrowed down. Don't complain… because you're not helping.

>>5208520

Does anyone know how many ventures Trump has invested in? I'd really like a number so we can compare it to the four Ch 11 bankruptcies he's claimed. Having a way to throw around a number like "Out of 120 (or whatever this number will be) ventures, he's only claimed bankruptcy from 4. That's a 97% success rate, compared to the average 50% success rate of new businesses". That'd be a great soundbyte to throw around.

>>5208520

Does anyone know how many ventures Trump has invested in? I'd really like a number so we can compare it to the four Ch 11 bankruptcies he's claimed. Having a way to throw around a number like "Out of 120 (or whatever this number will be) ventures, he's only claimed bankruptcy from 4. That's a 97% success rate, compared to the average 50% success rate of new businesses". That'd be a great soundbyte to throw around.

FUCKING. HOTWHEELS. LET ME POST.

>>5208036

>>5338268

Embed related.

Compare his total policy on Muslims to that of other candidates. (including their plans to fund 'moderate' ISIS rebels who kill Arab babies)

Is it worse to kill Muslim children or to restrict the entry of Muslims into America?

>>5445994

And also I think he started to work at his father's real estate company when he was 21 or 22, well before his father died in 1999. He sort of inherited his father's business before he inherited his money.

by the way this is the Our Principles PAC youtube page, they buy airtime to broadcast anti-Trump ads, that's all they do:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjTEqmXwv7M8JAcrSWu97Cg/videos

I haven't watched all the videos but I'm sure you'll see one of their ads at one point or another on local or national TV. The misogyny one (2+ million views) was promoted by Google/Youtube a few days ago.

>>5446630

>Does anyone know how many ventures Trump has invested in?

I think you may find the answer - in part at least - in his 92 pages long financial disclosure:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclosure20150722.pdf

>>5447921

where is the money for this coming from?

>>5208036

Tell them that every single Mexican that comes here illegally is stealing a job from a poor, inner city black person. They obviously hate white people, and are proud of hating white people, and if you just say "Mexicans taking our jobs" they'll automatically assume they're taking white jobs (because white people actually work) and they WON'T GIVE A FUCK.

So instead just pit their white guilt against itself. Every illegal immigrant that comes over here is stealing jobs from poor blacks. If you're in support of blanket amnesty and/or easy immigration, YOU are a racist for denying black people the means to make a living.

You cannot, absolutely cannot, win these worthless cucks over with logic. It's all emotion, all empathy. Make sure you hammer home how racist they are for locking blacks in a death spiral of unemployment and, as a result, perpetuating the school-to-prison conveyor belt responsible for huge numbers of black children growing up without fathers. Make them feel guilty for that, and for THEIR PERSONAL ROLE in perpetuating that. Let them know that because of their views on immigration, they are PERSONALLY responsible for the plight of blacks in the US.

>>5448477

This is gold and i would have missed it if it wasnt for your post. im saving that screen cap and saving the link to the video.

>>5208270

>32:18 - The Bible Gotcha!

>Trumps favorite bible verse

My favorite verse is from Galatians "Have i therefore become your enemy because i tell you the truth"

this has always been true for me, and im sure it is for alot of /pol/

I have to get verbally gang banged every time I go over to my grandparents' house every few weekends. Its generally 3v1 sometimes 4v1 when I go over.

>How does someone refute the "trump sues everyone" argument?

"you go to court to get a final hearing on something… right?" and then justify it by "a court hearing and ruling is more solid than some pissy lawyer's opinion in a back room, so whats the problem?"

Is this a good way to go, or does someone have a better way to frame it?

>>5449506

he doesn't want to destroy our rights, he just wants to destroy the rights of illegal immigrants and their anchor babies.

>>5442342

If you want to play race semantics, than neither is saying i dont like black people racist.

We do not hear of a Canadian immigration problem, we have a mexican one. If not racist, most definitely discriminatory.

>>5338413

This, I tried to show this to a mate and he just said "its long and i dont like the guy talking"

The fucking asswipe.

>>5449571

>Problems come from mainly one country or race

>lel it's discrimination to point it out and racism to try to fix it

>don't think about anything, goy, just accept every foreign problem. You don't want to be racist now do you?

Every time race relations comes up i always say off hand that there is nothing wrong with racism and then quickly follow it up with something else that is undisputably correct. The idea is so that they associate the statement with something correct and get them more accepting of the idea on a subconscious level. A kind of viral memeing if you will.

>>5449954

This, also follow Jew Shapiro's rule of do it in front of an audience. Your goal isn't to persuade the adversary to your views. You want to make everyone around see the folly in the leftist's ways.

>he inherited all his money from his father

>>5218493

>comment no longer there

fucking kikes

>This, also follow Jew Shapiro's rule of do it in front of an audience. Your goal isn't to persuade the adversary to your views. You want to make everyone around see the folly in the leftist's ways.

>>5207047

I want to add a few debate points.

First, it really doesn't matter what you say, so long as you say it with confidence. Appearing confident is far more important than actually saying reasonable things. If you are screaming, using excessive deflectionary body language, trembling, being timid, etc. then you are not coming off as confident.

Confidence is maintaining eye contact, speaking in a strong, even tone, never apologizing, and basically projecting your sexual will onto everyone who hears you. What I mean by that last part is this: you know that "imagine the audience in their underwear" trope? The essence of that method, distilled and concentrated, is that when you speak to a group, you are at your most powerful when you are basically willing to give an orgasm to everyone who hears you. That is the mindset you want yourself to be in before you speak. And this sort of mindset is very difficult for most people to put themselves into.

Let me try to tie this together for you. Say you're in a relationship, you have some dumb argument, you bypass the argument by fucking your partner to orgasm, argument goes away. You've circumvented the whole process of reason by just focusing on the sex.

So long as you apologize, use weak body language, etc. you affirm that the argument is valid. If you just take the stance of "forget the argument, I'm going to give you an orgasm" then you'll always win, because whenever someone orgasms, they forget everything else that is troubling them.

So, the advice given to public speakers shouldn't be merely "imagine the audience in their underwear to make yourself less nervous so you can speak well". It should be "imagine the audience having orgasms from your speech".

Beyond that, remember that positive is always more attractive then negative (unless we're talking about hiv). This is why the two sides label themselves Pro-Choice and Pro-Life. This is why the #NeverTrump thing is a total joke that will never succeed. This is why "Make America Great Again" is a winning strategy.

>>5455023

good stuff

to what extent have you put this into practice? do you do a lot of public speaking or debate?

>>5455023

good stuff

to what extent have you put this into practice? do you do a lot of public speaking or debate?

FUCK YOU WHEELKIKE MAN

How Trump used bankruptcy law to stay rich.

He restructured and forced a renegotiation of loan terms when he could gain an advantage.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-used-corporate-bankruptcy-stay-rich-2016-2

>>5287754

Libcuck response:

SEE LOOK HE HIRED ILLEGALS!

>>5498182

These people have never watched Irresponsible Captain Taylor.

They don't understand that he acts like that ON PURPOSE.