698cf0 No.5296409
Hey, /pol/
Fatherhood is one of the most important cornerstones of society. It is from our fathers we are supposed to learn what it means to be a man, to be strong, to be the rock a family is built on.
I think many of you, like me, know that fatherhood isn't what it used to be. I grew up with a weak father who imprinted alot of things I really hate about myself. I think this is where role models come in.
My point is, we need to steel ourselves and become the good men and fathers we need our white kids to be in this vile and disgusting reality that is constantly being forced on us.
Who do you look up to?
Are you a father? If so, what's it like? What's it take to be a good father?
What was your father like? Did you like him?
a86f5b No.5296471
I love my dad with all my heart but god I wish he didn't let me turn into such a pussy for a few years. The guy was in the army for 25 years, lived all over the world, did some really cool things, but he just didn't push me hard enough. He was way too soft, and as a result I ended up being a massive pussy until I was about 16.
b6254d No.5296490
My father sucks, tbh fam, I had to learn to be a man from fictional, mythical and historical men.
ddb882 No.5296517
My wife prefers me to not be the father for her son.
1eec64 No.5296540
>>5296471
There seems to be a plague amount of fathers who have a tough life, make it decent, say to themselves "I want my son to have a better life than I had!", go off the deep end with coddling, and then remain surprised when their sons end up as pussies with incredibly different values.
You'd think that common sense would tell them to give their sons at least some sound real talk, discipline etc. if not the diet of cabbage and cheese crusts they grew up with on the farm.
ec4bdb No.5296604
>>5296409
If anything my father showed me what not to be. Neither of my parents really raised me or taught me anything, and my mother spoiled me constantly. Only thing I've really gotten from them is being passive aggressive. We can't even talk properly with each other.
I want to be a father myself, but I am afraid I'd be really detached as I have no real bond with anyone today. It's all pretend.
>>5296517
Sven?
d4c917 No.5296652
>>5296604
Are you me?
It really suck that I need to role play to seem interested when talking with people.
9d9d5c No.5296657
Fatherhood, as it once was, is over. Society now has baby-daddies (black) biological fathers (white). Neither have any authority over their children, or rather - the mother's children. The bio dad is there for financial support until the money runs out or the mother finds a better source of funds - new daddy. If bio-daddy just becomes too damn boring for the mother, in the absence of a new-daddy (super chump), the State will provide for the child's and the mother's needs.
In all cases, the bio-daddy can be iced out of his children's lives forever with a simple false accusation to the police, domestic violence/child abuse.
You are NOT the father.
a1e590 No.5296663
>>5296471
Same story. My father served in the army for 20+ years, but didn't give a single fuck about disciplining his own son.
2dedf8 No.5296677
My father is a chain-smoking alcoholic, lazy, and an egoist.
As soon as I came of age and acquired the ability to think for myself I realized that I want to stray as far from these traits as I can.
I love him and all, and he has many wonderful qualities burried somewhere in there, but somewhere along the way he just kinda… gave up, you know? He wasn't so bad when I was a child and knew lots about everything.
But I am not my father, and neither are you OP. Trust yourself, think for yourself, strive for excellence in all that you do and become your own vision of what a man really is.
Maybe one day we'll be able to teach all the things we wish we didn't have to learn the hard way. Maybe one day we'll be able to offer our children answers to questions we wish someone could have given to us.
00c1ba No.5296711
>tfw cucked, reddit tier father
a86f5b No.5296727
>>5296540
Yep, my dad let me quit everything I ever tried as soon as I got bored with it or it became difficult, and then he was surprised when those same habits spilled over into other areas of my life like school. The thing I most regret is leaving any sports I was in when I was a little kid. I've been lifting and getting /fit/, but I'd like to be able to experience the comradeship that my friends who play on sports teams do. Plus I'm nearly 18, so I can't really just enter any sports.
730f94 No.5296744
My dad was and still is a protie bastard with a lot of monie that scolded me all my life for being a manlet nerd that liked Satanic shit like drawing, cartoons, drawing cartoons, legos and nintendo games.
since I was 13 I basically renounced all that bullshit and my only role model, i guess it is Satan becuse he is the only one that hates people more than I.
Inb4 edgy, that does not makes it less true.
659f90 No.5296907
Sup /pol/, long time lurker, seldom poster.
I am a father of a two year old - he's an only child and his mother and I love him very much. My wife and I agreed that outside death, we will always be married. Here are a few things that is right for our family:
We will seek Truth and tell him only the Truth.
We will not partake in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Toothfairy, etc.
I used to drink, smoke, and do all sorts of things that I regret now. Since I was married, I cleaned up my act, and only do the sort of things that he is allowed to do. When he gets older, he will know how I failed in situations and I hope that he will learn from them.
The wife and I are both vets (her in Iraq, me in Afghanistan) - I plan to teach him everything I know in regards to firearms, self-defense, etc.
My father was pretty much the same way - he is a retired cop, never divorced, and my role model.
If I had any advice to give to a father, it would be this: Kids are a direct reflection of yourself. Every way you handle yourself, verbally or non-verbally, they will become the same.
2dedf8 No.5296913
>>5296744
I call your bullshit on the fact that Satanism does not base itself on worshiping any "deity" (such as Satan, the devil, etc)and is instead based on egoism and materialism. "A religion of the flesh"
Your personal pleasure in the material world with complete disregard for the well-being of all other entities around you.
See: Psychopathy.
Fun fact: By accepting "Satan" you are accepting the same world-view of your jew overlords.
Fill your heart with hatred and you will never know peace
16be1a No.5296926
My dad died when I was 3. He borrowed money from Russians in the 90's and allegedly "killed himself" because of the debt, but we have strong suspicion that a couple of men in tracksuits may have assisted him with the suicide.
He had left my mom prior to that, and I like to believe that he left because he didn't want to put us in danger, but who knows. Mother never got together with other men and the closest thing to a father figure was probably my grandpa and maybe my uncle, although uncle didn't give a shit about me until I was old enough to understand his endless ramblings about local politics.
9b8787 No.5296931
>>5296907
>he's an only child and his mother
That's impressive, but degenerate. :^)
Your last point is really good advice.
9f4bd6 No.5296935
>tfw no dad growing up just an overbearing mother
2dedf8 No.5296987
>>5296907
It makes me very glad to see folks like you exist, my friend.
Striving for Truth is the most noble of causes. Truth is all there is, after all. Learning to see It and live in accordance to It is the only key to a fulfilled life.
4f1eb7 No.5297053
I have children, but they're all daughters. Just sort of worked out that way, but it does allow me the opportunity to help them become proper women and not coalburning whores.
A son would be nice, but I'm getting too old to be running around with babies. Perhaps I will have grandsons upon which to pass the wisdom of my father and grandfathers.
8a5752 No.5297057
>>5296409
>Are you a father?
I'm still pretty young, we'll see what happens as I get closer to my 30s.
>What was your father like? Did you like him?
He treated me well, took me fishing at every opportunity. When I was really young he ended up dying of a heart attack. He's sort of a fading memory at this point but I remember liking him.
4f1eb7 No.5297079
>>5296657
Spoken like a kid who doesn't have children.
Or a wife.
Probably just a gf on a pillow.
506947 No.5297082
>>5296907
>We will not partake in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Toothfairy, etc.
Nah man, you've got this wrong.
Why does almost every society in the world have mythology? Because finding out the truth is far easier from stories than years of real life experience to get the same thing. That's why promoting degeneracy in the media is such a big thing - people are both consciously and subconsciously affected by it.
Anyway, stories and myths serve to relate truths and moral values that are hard to grasp otherwise.
Tooth fairy? Suffering often leads to rewards.
Santa Claus? Being good gets you ahead, being bad doesn't.
Easter Bunny? Admittedly I can't think of an explanation for this but Easter egg hunts are fun and can be educational if you do cool clues like my dad did.
So don't shy away from tales by the fireside even if they're not the 'Truth' - tell him more! Tell him the stories of Norse mythology - the story of Sol and Mani and their chariots in the sky. When he's old enough, tell him of how Odin hung himself for nine days from Yggdrasil to gain knowledge - this teaches that knowledge and truth can only be obtained by hardship and/or sacrifice.
Point is, your child will be missing out on a massive portion of the culture of our forefathers. I urge you to start reading him mythology and telling him tales.
730f94 No.5297090
>>5296913
What, that is the reddit tier satanism, I didnt meant to be Satanist but, Satan like, if i had an ounce of power I would go on a killing rampage sicne I hate people, specially abrahamics.
730f94 No.5297102
>>5297079
basically, a tiny guy with an small penis.
e3e483 No.5297178
Not to brag lads, but my dad is pretty fucking based. Dudes been a builder for 30 years now, hes right wing (voting ukip) and i kid you not i went to visit him on the weekend he said and i quote "we need to stop this imagration stuff". I love my dad
590bdb No.5297186
Being a father is pretty awesome. Especially when you made a healthy handsome and intelligent blonde haired blue eyed son. Seriously, my entire existence was vindicated the moment he was born. I have been very stern but fair with him and thus far I have been getting nothing but compliments "oh wow what are you doing with your son? He is such a happy, well behaved boy! He even obeys your words exactly as you say them when you tell him to do or not do something." Basically people are amazed that my son doesnt behave like the shitty kids that liberals and cuckservatives are creating. And its simple.. I treat him as I would treat an adult. If he fucks up I let him know that he did, if hes doing well I give him tempered praise and if I see an opportunity to teach him something new I seize it.
e3e483 No.5297207
>>5297186
you and your wife both blonde hair blue eyes or did you take a risk?
590bdb No.5297224
>>5296663
after disciplining your subordinates in strict military fashion and being in their shoes.. its hard to do it with your own kids. Let me tell ya punishing your kid and making him cry for a while is pretty fucking rough especially when its not a bratty cry but a 'heart broken' type of cry.
698cf0 No.5297248
Anyone else have an overly-religious upbringing?
I was raised evangelical and I think it really helped fuck up my social skills among other things. I think evangelical christians, the kind that speak tongues and wiggle around on the floor like snakes, are actually some form of satanists. All the kids in school thought I was a weirdo (and I was thanks dad) because I was seriously into the church cult.
Not to mention when I did get a couple of friends I couldn't hang out with them outside of school because my mom thought I was going to get molested (even though it happened in my family, to my brothers too)
And girls? I wasn't allowed to even go to parties if they were hosted by girls until I was 16/17.
It was the worst form of theism that even took over little things and made me miss out on so much. Wasn't even allowed to play pokemon or go trick-or-treating. WHAT THE FUCK MAN fun=/=evil. Got a full scholarship to college and wasn't allowed to go because I got caught smoking weed with my cousin. I TRIED TO BE A GOOD KID MOM AND DAD
tl;dr
Don't be like my parents, socialize your kids early-on, talk to them about God in a healthy way don't force it on them, and allow them to enjoy their lives.
fa2fa0 No.5297288
I love my dad but he was a weak pussy.
He didn't teach me anything. Cars, money, girls, life. I had to figure everything out on my own.
Not to mention lacking that strong masculine presence of respect in my life. Learning respect takes a long time. My life has been cushy but lacking in real depth and warmth. I had to learn that myself.
I taught myself almost everything I know. All the meaningful things I had to struggle to pick up by forcing myself to do so.
e4a38b No.5297321
My father was a fucking pussy bitch who watched and did nothing while countless people shit on me.
Doctors, teachers, coaches, family members, police, bullies….. all these people constantly fucked up my shit and he didn't do a fucking thing.
I've spent a good portion of every day I've been alive contemplating suicide because the one person who was always supposed to have my back literally let me get abused by every evil person in society. He sat there and watched me get bullied and would basically say "Man, that was completely fucked up! But I can't do anything about it. Sorry. Those people are more powerful than me and I have to go play some golf"
That faggot fuck had 1000 opportunities to stand up for me and every single fucking time he just stood and watched while I was traumatized. If I was ever raped he would have invited the rapist into my house and said "Hey, this guy wants to apologize and then we can all move on. No charges need to be pressed. No dicks need removed."
He insults me even today by constantly blowing up my phone and leaving voicemails like "hey it's dad, give me a call, why aren't you answering? I didn't do anything, I was always there for you"
Fuck our fathers. They let this shit happen. We can be real men like our grandfathers and fix this shit but the baby boomers were the most cucked generation ever and deserve hell for selling us out. Go talk to any baby boomer father about fixing any severe problem in the world. "Oh, well what's that gonna fix? That's just one problem. It's alrght, i mean we still have x y and z. We will just let the jews take this one."
Most useless cucked group in human fucking history. Ever wonder why all these faggots get cancer? Because they let evil take over. They literally sold their own children to the devil. Now they are getting their punishment.
2dedf8 No.5297347
I feel that a very good topic of discussion, relating to fatherhood, is motherhood.
In today's world more than ever, the importance of motherhood can not be overlooked.
Raising a child in a functional, loving family is extremely important for the child's development and will have life-lasting effects on thinking patterns and social behavior.
Which brings me to a stunning realization:
In today's world, it is quite possibly much harder to find a red-pilled, morally-sound female companion than it is to actually raise a child.
Thoughts?
9c50ce No.5297368
>>5296727
My father was all about himself and viewed me as a hindrance to his success. He always dai;Ed in life, never following through on his businesses, never making enough money, leaving me and my mom when I was 12 to live with his mistress and basically raise her kid.
I only got to know him at the age of 26 as an adult. He pretends to care and shit, but then hits me up for money.
My mom was too lenient and I lacked focus. I realized this in college when my dad visited me and said I would;d never amount to anything because I was "left handed" and "left handed people are weird." I was like: "WTF? Fuck you."
I got a 4.0 GPA after he said that and hated him for being a bitch. It's like I get motivated and prove his bitch-ass wrong.
I hated myself because I felt like I was the reason for his failures. Like, he invented a product that got ripped off and it became popular in the US. He is so butthurt over that.
My life changed when I started reading The Art of War and then books generals like Patton and MacArthur.
Basically has to teach myself self-discipline and regain self esteem.
He was kind of a nigger-tier father.
c80fc3 No.5297394
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
My father is a good guy, raised on a farm, served in the Gulf War
Never too relaxed nor too firm, but supportive and hard working
He owns his own business now too
Couldnt be better honestly
a48c08 No.5297431
2dedf8 No.5297547
>>5297321
I'm going to take this opportunity to chime in on… the importance of a healthy diet!
Evil manifests itself in our reality throughout our day to day life.
Thus, by allowing ourselves to become completely cucked when it comes to health and nutrition thanks baby boomers!, we suffer from plague of incurable diseases such as cancer and mental disorders.
How does this happen? It's very simple really: Your body is like a computer, the data that you put in is reflected in output.
Food and water are data.
In order for our bodies to function the way they were designed, they must be fueled by other things that are also in their natural state.
Our bodies do not interact well with the large quantities of artificial compounds that are added by man in pretty much everything.
So here you have your computer, and all you're doing is using internet explorer with a million toolbars and clicking all the jankiest "you win!" ads, and downloading MadMaxFurryRoad.exe files all the while being a smug faggot because you just paid $199.99 for norton anti-virus.
Is it any wonder why you inevitably get the blue screen of death?
tl;dr start eating organic, stop drinking pop and eating white bread, stop putting poison into your body and it will react accordingly.
At least do it for your children.
6028ac No.5297629
I love my dad but he was never much use except as a hell of a breadwinner. I think making a lot of money and giving us a very safe and fun place to grow up made him feel he was doing everything necessary, especially since my mom was kind of kick ass. For example she taught me how to fight, but I guess I needed a father to teach me when and why to fight. Consequently I never did when on a number of occasions I should have.
As a result of all this I spent my best years afraid of women, afraid of hurting people, terrified of addiction, a frightened teetotaler attached to a needy, slothlike woman who was a quiet and manipulative bitch to the other people around me.
This ended in disaster, and it was only when I moved far away, surrounded myself with new people, and made friends with other men who had dignity and self-respect that it started to rub off on me.
I have a son now and I try with all my might to teach him not to be afraid of other kids, especially girls. To treat others with respect but to stand up for himself. To take his side when there's a conflict but privately to be hard on him about his role in it. Maybe not such a big deal yet because he's still very young, but you can't let the seed of self-loathing and nihilism take root. I go easy on him if he curses or fights, because I fear him being made soft by the ongoing feminization of boys and boyhood which has become doctrine in the schools.
I think it's important to keep your marriage in working order, not necessarily by being however commanding or collaborative, because that really depends on the relationship you've forged so far. But a father cannot be seen as subservient to his wife, and strife between the couple must be kept to a minimum. This is obvious, but what's often left out of the discussion is how important it is to spend time together doing household tasks and other daily shit but also to respect and protect each other's solitude. Every moment you spend doing anything productive or remotely enjoyable together armors you against conflict and solidifies your roles in the marriage.
On a semi-related note, I think it's incredibly important for women and especially mothers to get enough sleep. If there's a single thing you can do that will absolutely, slam dunk, 100% benefit the people you love, it is being an authoritarian about sleep and doing what you must to enable it. This is especially important now that so many distractions are available to children, and because women are so vulnerable to the lure of entertainment, gossip, social media, and other bullshit.
tl;dr -
don't let the schools turn your boys into girls
keep your marriage in order even if privately this hurts a little
enforce bedtime
above all else be present
ec4bdb No.5297694
>>5297547
Any advice for picky eaters? It might have come from me being spoiled as a kid, but there is a lot of things I can't eat without puking it right up. I have found a diet that works for me where I get what I need, but it makes me eat pretty much the same things every day, and I am afraid it wouldn't work when I start a family.
4f1eb7 No.5297984
>>5297694
Don't worry about picky eaters. It's a sign that he won't swallow everything spoon fed to him.
6fe3db No.5298198
>>5296907
>We will not partake in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Toothfairy, etc
That's just cruel. Weird too.
ebb7ca No.5298502
I'd respect my father a whole lot more if he wasn't so soft. He bends his back over nonstop for my sister when it comes to college finances. There was also my mother who went batshit, and it felt like an eternity to remove her and then a kinda stepmom that came into our family's life that was either crazy to begin with or he didn't keep her in check. Now I have a half-brother in another house because she wanted to move and her crazy dog who was going to be put to sleep unless my father took him in because the mutt bit her son. The best part? She was the one who adopted it knowing full well that the dog is "special." She then went on to adopt two more dogs after dumping the creature on him. Apparently says she wants to assimilate them, but ZERO progress has been made on that. I'm not asking him to be perfect, but even when I bring up his "mistakes" in context of the conversation, I swear. or how terrible she is, I get some pansy, hand wave tier response from him. There's more to fatherhood than just being a breadwinner. Sadly, I've learned this later rather than sooner.
When it comes to who I look up to, I don't even know anymore, it doesn't feel like there are any strong men in my life. I've just been taking bits and pieces of successful attributes of whoever, be they some blog writer or a random father on the street and just try to incorporate it and heaven help me if I need to do some heavy reprogramming for the billionth time. Not knowing what to do is useful, but that seems to only do so much.
Hopefully we're still at the beginning of the resurgence of masculinity, demoralization and environmental fuckery has got a lot of us good. We have the potential to be the best fathers in the world if we overcome the madness that is our world, we can secure a future for our kids. It would be the bee's knees if I could tell my grandkids that I once lived in a world where my generation had no future and was not free and maybe teach him why whatever kind of stupidity going around in the future is a bad idea.
39f10a No.5298728
I still don't have kids, but will have at least 2.
I spend a lot of time with my nephews, and "practice" being a father with them, although it's impossible if you're not really the father. But since their parents are very soft with them, it's been interesting being both a strict yet fun uncle to them.
It's been working wonders for almost about some 6 years already. When talking about ordinary things, I always try to use one or another rare word they wouldn't hear otherwise so they ask me "what does X mean?" and learn something new out the blue.
When something happens that other adults would just explain with lies, underestimating their intelligence, I'll take my time to explain in a simpler way but still teach them the truth of it - be it death, love, jobs, money, whatever topic.
If they behave improperly, I'm strict with them without even raising my voice, and they are a lot more disciplined around me than they are with their parents.
Interestingly enough, they like me a lot. This last weekend one of them asked me if he could live with me and my gf in our home.
Kids want to have adults paying attention to them, but not just praising them, but making them learn about the world and what they'll need to be able to make it through hard times, when they grow up. I think it's an instinct, at least I had that when I was a kid.
718007 No.5298769
9f4bd6 No.5298783
>>5297321
Just fucking kill him already.
9f4bd6 No.5298825
>>5297321
Just fucking kill him already….
b0a544 No.5298855
>>5296907
>We will not partake in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Toothfairy, etc.
Don't be an asshole, anon
690a61 No.5298974
>>5298728
> I always try to use one or another rare word they wouldn't hear otherwise so they ask me "what does X mean?" and learn something new out the blue.
I have two nephews but they never ask what a specific word is unless I use a word as part of my vocabulary daily or explaining what everyday objects do and how it works
437ba7 No.5299007
The fact that I turned out to be kind of a pussy is not my fathers fault in my opinion and I think everyone ITT shouldn't blame their fathers either for becoming a fuck-up.
e816b1 No.5299034
>>5297082
this
I have my first son being born in 6 months and I plan to teach him all the old norse mythologies. Those stories are damn interesting and entertaining for kids.
better that than the shit on TV
71d9b0 No.5299042
>>5299007
That's a common argument, but this thread is about identifying mistakes and correcting them. If you are blaming and stagnating, I Don't think you'd find much disagreement that's unhealthy.
e816b1 No.5299087
>>5297368
> leaving me and my mom when I was 12 to live with his mistress and basically raise her kid.
>He pretends to care and shit, but then hits me up for money.
> I would;d never amount to anything because I was "left handed" and "left handed people are weird.
kek, what a shitty dad
1117ab No.5299194
21 year old, Generation Y fuckhead here. Sorry if this comes off as a blog post, this thread just really hits home with me right now.
I had a good relationship with my father during my childhood until I was about 8 and he just left overnight. I would only see him from time to time after that, and the more I talked to my mother about it the more she would just try to convince me he was a terrible person. Every time I'd go to his place, I'd meet a new woman that he was dating and I'd just be a feminized faggot-ass momma's boy about it and get jealous that he was with anyone besides my mom.
A few years ago my frustration of growing up without a dad around hit its peak and I didn't talk to him for a little over 3 years. I recently started talking to him again, we had some drinks at a bar, and hashed things out. When I found out the full story, I felt so fucking guilty for hating him, since I would've done the same things he did.
Long story short, he got laid off when he was working wall street, just around the time of the housing bubble as well, so he was left with no money. My mom told him that she, nor any other woman, would love him if he didn't have money to his name and started cheating. Didn't sleep with him for 2 years and one night brought him divorce papers. My father, inexperienced in the subject, and being an immigrant (white, don't worry) who couldn't speak much English just signed whatever. He got no fault divorced, kicked out of the house, got forced to pay alimony even though she made more money than him at the time, and considered becoming an hero for a while. And after years of trying to find a new woman to no avail, my brainwashed ass stopped talking to him for years.
I feel like a total prick, and I can't take back my past now. Nor will I be able to have a father teach me how to be a man in my life, I just had to learn myself all this time. I partially blame the fact that I grew up in the generation with the most volatile marriage laws ever.
Take note, guys, my generation is fucked. A wide majority of us had to grow up with either no fathers around or very bluepilled, feminized fathers. I would pinpoint this as one of the biggest reasons that there are so many retarded cuck millenials now. It's a real shame. Thank fucking goodness I discovered /pol/.
61e4b4 No.5299320
>>5299194
>8 years old around housing bubble (2008)
>Is 16 right now
> Claims 21
> Has drinks at a bar
>Father is White immigrant working on Wall Street and can't speak English
MGTOW fag GTFO!
fbe27a No.5299434
>>5297694
As long as you're getting your macros I wouldn't worry about it.
9f4bd6 No.5299444
>>5299007
I think you should shut the fuck up.
c949b3 No.5299465
>>5297321
>We can be real men like our grandfathers and fix this shit but the baby boomers were the most cucked generation ever and deserve hell for selling us out.
My pussy liberal dad has 'horror stories' of how my Granddad believed "Gays should be taken behind the shed and shot", and that he didn't trust the Blacks he worked with in the Ice cream factory because when the management wasn't looking they would all "skim some off of the top" of the ice cream containers.
Grandad handled all of the finances, worked a series of odd jobs to support his family for the majority of my Dad's childhood, served in the Navy in the '50s, quit smoking cold turkey early in his marriage and was a committed success story from Alcoholics Anonymous for 35 years.
He died when I was in elementary school, but all my memories of him were him taking time out of his visits to play with me and my siblings. I'm glad he wasn't around for my dipshit liberal phase, but I would give anything to talk with him now, one last time.
I miss you, Pappy
437ba7 No.5299473
>>5299444
Nice dub-trips bro
500768 No.5299475
>>5299320
Stock market crash of 2000 fits his story, and it was when the housing bubble got big. It fits.
2e6bd6 No.5299481
Father not be around + over protective mother + shitty "no child left behind" education policy = shit upbringing.
No matter how rich you are.
500768 No.5299538
>>5299194
>Take note, guys, my generation is fucked. A wide majority of us had to grow up with either no fathers around or very bluepilled, feminized fathers. I would pinpoint this as one of the biggest reasons that there are so many retarded cuck millenials now. It's a real shame. Thank fucking goodness I discovered /pol/.
It started a bit before your generation, but yours has been hit the hardest.
>>5296657
Almost all of us want families, but to everyone else, remember that ignoring reality is the figurative bluepill.
>>5297079
Says the guy with just daughters.
I know it's outside your control, but I wonder why so many people here using their families as an example have mostly girls?
1117ab No.5299556
>>5299320
Alright. Believe me or don't, I don't give a shit. I wouldn't put that much effort into a post simply to lie.
Also
>MGTOW fag GTFO
Nigger, please. You're trying way too hard to fit in.
500768 No.5299575
>>5299511
That's fucking brutal
1117ab No.5299625
>>5299538
>It started a bit before your generation
What onset this trend exactly - what started this ridiculous divorce culture? If I had to guess it would be with Reagan's no fault divorce shit, but I feel like it has to be more than just that.
>>5299481
Yep, pretty much half of gen Y dealt with this shit. And then you have foam boi lubio saying that the millennials can potentially be the best generation of Americans ever produced. What a crock of shit.
fb3214 No.5299658
My fathers parents died when he was young, so he was raised amongst his three sister. Where he studied in Sweden with the youngest one (a few years apart).
He is not an authority at all. It is all on my mothers terms, and I assume it was like that when he studied in Sweden too. Just goes along with others expectations and have no real opinion about anything.
So naturally, I got all that too. Conflict-shy, timid, ashamed. I wasn't actively raised. Fuck sake, I just had my nutriment-needs met, and that's it.
And somehow I should be shamed for being a fuckup now. How I lack dreams, ambition, while consonantly hearing what kind of a fuck-up I am in terms of external factors.
"Chasing virtues" doesn't provide money. You can't "show" happiness, joy or shit like that.
Guess ma mama taught me good :^) .
My father thought it was better to not take an authoriative figure, and rather leave things be and wait for mother take the fight. Now, my mother, being a woman, has its biological faults for taking the father role.
And saying this, I'm the ungrateful one. I'm the one choosing to have a fucked up life. I'm the one choosing my situation and all that. But god forbid I choose to look up to a traditionally manly man (Trump in this case), that deserves shame.
So I'm supposed to either be shamed for choosing wrong, or choose from a select few whose degenerate.
I don't know what to do. It's all so abstract to solve it. It's like I'm the only somewhat sane amongst the insane.
4f1eb7 No.5299700
>>5299538
>Says the guy with just daughters.
4 daughters, yep.
A lot of my peers are having mostly daughters. Maybe it's something they put in the milk when we were in elementary. Some bizarre chemical experiment in the 1970s to turn an entire generation into women.
695cb0 No.5299837
>>5296409
>tfw emasculated beta manchild
>tfw I know I would make an awful father figure
>tfw I would only imagine myself as father if I just had daughters to cuddle, spoil and buy them pretty stuff
>tfw even that would be dangerously pedo-like
>tfw social retardery and borderline impotency/sterility have ended a blessing since any attempt to make a family would end up in disaster
I don't want to demoralize you guys, I just want you to make more White children in my stead after all not the purest sort of White guy.
500768 No.5299874
>>5299625
Families split up pretty bad in the 80s and 90s here. Feminism. Maybe incentives changed for women getting divorces then, dunno. There was no shaming probably because feminism had really absorbed by then.
>>5299700
I was thinking environment or something, or maybe women are more likely to stay with the father when they don't have boys? More masculine guys and higher-status usually have more sons. Might relate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivers%E2%80%93Willard_hypothesis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2614476/
Need more time to read up.
I wouldn't say it if you weren't being a snarky bitch and bashing on guys with fucked up families, but most us really aren't interested in raising more women. We know how they will turn out until society changes. I want children, but if I knew I was only going to end up with girls I would go full mgtow.
4f1eb7 No.5299914
>>5299874
>More masculine guys and higher-status usually have more sons.
[citation needed]
Especially since you know nothing about me, nor my masculinity, nor my status.
695cb0 No.5299961
>>5299511
These two always get me.
493e07 No.5300118
I'm an only child. My dad's pretty good to me. Often lets me do my own thing but gets protective now and again. Stopped drinking as soon as I was born. The only thing that I never really liked was during my childhood he was obese. When I was halfway through high school he got that whole stomach shrink surgery or whatever and lost a shit ton of weight. He got it because the doctors said he wouldn't live to see me graduate high school if he didn't get his shit together. Made me feel like I missed out on alot of fun stuff. Same with his age. Him and my mother were 38 when I was born. There's a few things I'd do different if I was a parent. But I like to think I'd be as caring as he is, but without showing too much emotion. I want to be stern but loving. I plan on having a big white family. Several children since I'm an only kid. I want to instill big family values into my family, a set family meal even after they're all grown up. I'm only in my early 20s, but I want to make sure I keep my bloodline going and keep it going strong. I just pray they don't have any disabilities like epilepsy. Nothing would make me feel as shameful as passing my disability to my kids. Hopefully they're all boys. Anyways, that's my shitpost of the day.
500768 No.5300192
>>5299914
>You don't know me *snaps fingers*
But I can guess, since >>5297079 you resort to feminized shaming language. I fully admit I might be wrong, I need to do some hunting to provide anything but anecdotes, and I know statistics doesn't prove anything about an individual.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15748918/ is about brain types, not testosterone I believe. Could someone remind of the website to get studies from behind paywalls?
I do know that I have never met a guy proud of living in a houseful of women that I either respected or envied.
05e059 No.5300326
My father is a fucking cuck, his father was a comunist and my father was indoctrinated by him in his chilhood, although my father is more right wing, he is just fucked up because of his father. Also he has anger problems, and he had never do thing with my or my brother, and he had never say nothing good about us when we was kids… And he is unemployed because he is a lazy man and my mother sustains him, really pathetic. I was a fucking pussy till I have 16-18 years.
fcbe03 No.5300495
>>5296727
Trust me it isn't that bad.
Just play Recreationally your friends and lift.
I played pro academy soccer as a teen, and travel baseball and tennis as a kid and hated just about all of my teammates.
533f6a No.5300550
How am I supposed to be a father in current year when people my age have no social mobility, can barely leave parents house and buy a home, and even if we do so, have to work twice as hard as our grandparents for half the wages which barely cover living standards?
72f7c1 No.5300802
>>5296409
>tfw no father figure
The strong leaders of history serve as my father figure.
The utter destruction of the family unit resulted in a couple generations of fatherless children, which ironically(for the destroyers of civilization) resulted in us looking up to the outstanding leaders(such as uncle Adolf) and idolizing them instead.
We have a fundamental human NEED for a father figure, for both boys and girls. The absence of such a father leader results in people looking for a substitute, and of course they're going to pick the strongest and most ideal prototype to serve as their father figure.
I believe this is another example of the schemes backfiring on them.
3f8236 No.5300853
>>5300192
>>5300192
>a guy proud of living in a houseful of women
They're my kids, you nitwit. This is how I know that what I said in >>5297079 is right on the mark.
I don't live in a house full of women. I live in a house with my children and my wife.
500768 No.5301002
>>5300853
>I don't live in a house full of women. I live in a house with my (4 female) children and my wife.
Like I said, I don't envy you. >>5296657 wasn't me.
965b85 No.5301044
>I grew up with a weak father who imprinted alot of things I really hate about myself
I think that's the norm for anyone raised after ww2. There's too many "yes dear" types
998fa6 No.5301110
I have a newborn daughter. Being a father is the greatest feeling of all time, and that is coming from someone who is basically emotionally retarded and dead inside. I contemplate her future non stop
906bd8 No.5301468
KIDS ARE MEANT TO BE RAISED BY GRANDPARENTS! NOT PARENTS!
e73b28 No.5301503
>>5299511
Fuck anon that was fucking brutal
49b3b5 No.5301807
You guys who seem to hold resentment towards your fathers, do realise that one of the hardest things as a father, is letting your son do his own mistakes and struggle (and in turn grow stronger from the failures).
Beyond teaching the fundamentals of being a man, the one thing a man has to figure out is to struggle and figure out what it actually takes to grow up to be a man. Look at you all, hanging on /pol here, you're on your way and many of you basically already are better men than 90% of the male population.
This wouldn't have happened if your father "stood up for you". You can't lean on your father like a shield for you when you enter your teenage years. That's only going to make you grow up being a faggot and being weak.
Struggle doesn't make you weak.
500768 No.5302396
>>5301807
I don't agree. A dad who doesn't teach a kid how to defend himself against bullies isn't helping, even though we would agree that the dad has to let the kid fight for himself. A dad who refuses to stand up to authority figures (doctors, teachers, cops) is a terrible example. All that a kid can learn from that is to spot those people, and maybe say to themselves 'I will never be weak like that.' My dad standing up for me about things way outside of my control are part of why I am not afraid to stand up for myself now, I have his example.
Struggle is not abuse. And abuse doesn't make people strong, it's how they are taught, or learn on their own, to respond to problems that makes them strong.
87a1fc No.5302498
>>5297321
Best boomer hate I've ever read. Well done. Completely warranted.
>>5298728
Aye, anon. I'm in a similar situation - weak, depressed at life parents, and I'm quite strict and authoritarian, yet fun and treat them with respect. One of the brothers asked if I could be their dad.
>poor real dad
I think it's just natural for boys to look up to strength. What boy wouldn't? Masculine strength is a marvelous thing.
>>5296409
My father is a boomer liberal, so I basically raised myself. I like him, but he failed in raising any true male qualities in me, because he himself doesn't really have them - I was kind of like androgynous for a while there.
It was my first girlfriend who really brought out masculinity in me, and then finding out about the jews just naturally produced loads of rage.
Also, Commander George Lincoln Rockwell is my total hero.
3f8236 No.5302530
>>5302498
> boomer hate
Boomers are approaching 70+. My parents are boomers and I'm in my 40s. You sure you're blaming the right generation? Boomers were the 60s hippie bitches.
bc3f9a No.5302532
>>5297186
great job man. i know that feel.
>>5297207
good chance the kid will have brown hair: both my kids were blondie blonde tip 8-9, now they have brown hair like me. perhaps the lad will have a blonde beard like his old man (blonde redemption)
bc3f9a No.5302553
>>5302530
my folks were born in 46 - first boomers. will be 70 this year. math, my friend, math.
bc3f9a No.5302562
3f8236 No.5302596
>>5302553
Just makin' sure, bro. Don't get upset.
bc3f9a No.5302728
4ee5ae No.5304774
9f4bd6 No.5305409
>>5299837
>also a emasculated beta manchild
>also I know I would make an awful father figure where as my own father was emotionally and physically distant i would be the opposite
>mfw in the end i would up being both a emotionally and physically abusive parent because of my own shortcomings and hangups from my childhood
WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
bf59a9 No.5305427
>>5299511
>That second thumbnail
No. I'm not going down this road tonight.
eda727 No.5305658
I was thinking about this today OP. I forget just how uncanny our collective unconscious is sometimes.
>Who do I look up to?
My grandfather on my mothers side. His father before him died when he was a boy, and he had to raise his 9 year old brother with his mother. You just don't find men like him anymore. I love him a great deal.
>What does it take to be a good father?
I don't know this one, but I aspire to be a more resolute figure than my own father.
>What was my father like
My father was emotionally a sub to my mother, before she divorced him and married a much more masculine German guy (Actually get along with him well). I live with my father, who is the embodiment of the passive white guy stereotype, dating green card asians that barely know the language. He was a hippie in the 70's and now works a soulless high up corporate job selling garbage. I aspire to not be like him.
>>5305427
Its as bad as you think
0e32ab No.5305998
>never knew my father
>grew up without one
>he shaved my head and left one day and never came back
03f7ea No.5306168
>>5296677
God damn-it, why are you me?
f8bcf5 No.5306456
Jesus fuck /pol/, the penny just dropped
We're the first sizable generation in the history of the world to have to raise ourselves
This explains so much.
ad4a8a No.5306807
>>5297288
This, my dad is a great guy, nice, willing to lend a hand, etc. I go pretty far out of my way for him any chance I get.
My dad just never reeally stood up to my overbearing (and frankly terrifying) mother. The divorce was not a shocker to anyone.
I hate that I think this way, but despite all of his goodness I had to figure out how to be a man myself and go between worrying about not being assertive enough to worrying I'm too overbearing.
I love him, but kind of hate him sometimes by accident. For God's sake, he called my stepdad "sir" one time. He believes in 'fairness' about these niggerriots even though he knows the truth of the story. But on the other hand, he's been nothing but good to me.
21973f No.5306927
>>5306456
Haha, just figured it out?
No better time if it had to happen though, we're the first generation with access to the entire history of humanity.
fb2de2 No.5307498
My parents clothed and fed me, not much else. Everything that led me to /pol/ was mostly things I had to figure out or do myself. I never learned how to properly fight, shot a gun once in my life, didn't know shit about women.
With the fighting, I didn't care if the fags at the school yelled at me for not being a good goy I was afraid they'd get my parents involved which when my dad got angry, he got ANGRY. And for some fucking reason he'd always tell me not to retaliate against bullies or to "start fights" yet the few times I did stand up for myself he'd approve it. The mixed signals really messed with me that way.
My parents would always get on my case for playing vidya in my spare time but it was like, what else should I do? You didn't teach me a whole lot or encourage me to do sports or martial arts.
Looking back my childhood really lacked and I feel it was wasted despite living comfortably.
21973f No.5307695
>>5307498
>Looking back my childhood really lacked and I feel it was wasted despite living comfortably.
Our parents gave us everything but a reason to live. So we found our own.
Or are finding. Mine is space, I want my prodigy to meet ayylmaos, compare mythologies. Hopefully we can put the puzzle pieces together and figure out what the bigger picture is.
17e308 No.5307993
Another person with a vet dad here and hes a fucking mess. Barely in any psychological condition to raise children. All he did was yell at us and basically was raised by mother, yet again.
She tried really hard, I don't blame her. I think compared to many people here, I had it pretty good.
Raising children is a two person job. One side for men, one side for women, none of this gay/lesbian bullshit. When one side doesn't pull their weight, things go wrong.
Suddenly the flower children, drug-using, hippies have kids, and are self-absorbed shitters, and we get the stories here.
My best advice is to watch old videos and movies about raising kids. They exist and you'll probably have to dig for them. Stuff from maybe the 50s. Maybe we can undo all this mess.
500768 No.5308087
>>5307993
I've always been good with children, and this is gonna sound dumb, but really simple logic and some empathy goes a long way.
d5d9e1 No.5308209
>>5296907
>We will not partake in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Toothfairy, etc.
>No fun allowed
>only one child
>women
>combat
You've failed already.
dee018 No.5308865
Even if a father isn't the biological one, he can still be great. Having a good one, no matter the original relation, is important.
I've only ever had my step father, never the real one, and other than going on imageboards, I'm completely normal and functional in society because he raised me and treated me like his own child, complete with normal punishment and moral teaching.
It's a shame that there are so many children being raised today by single mothers, those children will mostly turn out to be awful people and in turn awful parents, and the government encouraging this life style via WIC and EBT is only making it worse.
dee018 No.5308907
>>5306927
and the first generation with unlimited access to all the perversions and corrupted morals that belong solely on the internet. Children who are gullible will soak it all up and it is ruining them.
21973f No.5308990
>>5308907
True, but there is a silver lining.
For instance, how many anons here were full on /d/? How many went to the most extreme of fetishes before realizing "no, I'm not attracted to the shitting dick nipples, I'm attracted to her"? Where hand-holding and missionary position does more than a gangbang ever could.
Soak it all in, let it all out.
d2ae07 No.5309183
>>5308990
>hand-holding
>missionary position for the purposes of procreation
Let's try not to be too indecent anon. You gotta calm that lewdness down.
21973f No.5309247
>>5309183
I'm not confidant I know the crossposting so http://8ch.net/hgg/res/10278.html
I have looked upon the abyss, the end of all fetishes, and it is fatherhood. That is the lewdest of the lewd.
4f847b No.5309445
My father is a good man but he has always considered himself to be stupid because he never went to college. He is a traditional fixer/builder/plumber/electrician with loads of skills but never wanted to teach those skills.
My mother is a teacher and took over most of the "teaching" portion of child raising while he deferred to her judgement.
This left me conflict shy and highly liberal with tons of social difficulties. The first time i saw real masculine pride in his eyes was when I finally fought back against a tormentor in high school. This clicked for me that everything I knew about being a man was a female driven fantasy. It took me years (with plenty of help from /pol) to turn my life around.
Now i have begun redpilling my father and he is much more willing to share his fatherly advice seperate from my mothers sensibilities.
Boys raised solely on the advice of women cannot become men.
aa0177 No.5309570
bc45a2 No.5309674
>>5296409
My father was a huge failure, retarded libfag, beta, who got a PhD and worked, then went into 'depression' and had some kind of injury issues for basically his entire life thereafter, tried to essentially brainwash myself and my sister into hating my hardworking mother after she divorced him for being such a fucking hunk of shit.
More or less the opposite of those MGTOW stories, actually. I still think feminism is retarded, I just also think that if my mother hadn't been brainwashed by it, she would have found a real man instead of a sack of shit.
I want to be an actual father for my children. One who won't raise them into ethnomasochistic faggots like everyone else.
ff51e5 No.5310643
>>5307695
>Our parents gave us everything but a reason to live. So we found our own.
What a strong thought.
af19ee No.5310665
>dad is 40 years older than me so I could never relate to him at all
>he never exercised, didn't care about sports, smoked and drank while telling me to do as he said not as he did
My dad's okay I guess. He's never been exactly a deadbeat but neither has be been inspirational about anything.
7f7906 No.5310729
My Dad did a lot of good for me, but his inane temper set a rift between us for a long time.
He pushed me into sports like, wrestling, football, and baseball; I didn't care for that at the time, but it taught me a lot about competition, pushing yourself, and fighting.
My main problem with my father is that he has always gotten vehemently upset about non-issues and then I, in turn, get upset at him as well. He is a good guy, and I love him very much.
e38a7f No.5310801
My dad was extremely up my ass about everything I did until I was, like, 9.
I of course bucked and resented his controlling influence, so after that he got all bitter, and pretty much turned his back on me all throughout my teenage years.
He just wanted me to excel, because he felt like a failure. I realize that now.
From this, I've learned that you have to always be there for your sons, but you also have to give them their space and let them choose their own path. You can't live their lives for them.
10039a No.5310841
My own father redpilled me. He told me a story about when he was in the Navy back in the 1970s. He was on a destroyer that was called in during the Iran hostage crisis (the university one).
At some point he was in Pakistan, went to a bar where he drank "the nastiest fuckin beer I ever tasted". He met a Muslim man there and had a conversation that shook me awake. The man said "one day a great Muslim will rule over the United States"
My dad and the man both started laughing, then fhe man kind of slowed down his laugh and gave a "knowing smile"
I've never shared this story before, but the way he told it really shook me to my core.
d2ae07 No.5310850
My father was overall a great dad, but did leave something to be desired for my brother and I. Excellent in way of caring and setting a good example but he really didn't teach my brother and I very many practical things and was very passive.
That said his passiveness wasn't all bad, he acts as quite a nice foil to my very fiery mother, being the voice of reason.
He is the quintessential science teacher, always absorbed in some specialized study or grading tests and homework. Sometimes I wish he had pushed me harder in sports or scouting or martial arts instead of letting me quit. Thankfully he did push me to learn as much as I can and to always question things. How thankfully I am for the gift of skepticism.
I hope to emulate his youth, eschewing women his age to pursue his own interests and eventually settling down in his 30's with a wife a decade his junior.
He's 60 this year and I hope he retires from teaching soon. Between shit school districts and shittier students it really does wear him down. Besides, 40 years is long enough for a career.
ad4a8a No.5310890
>>5301807
>Struggle doesn't make you weak.
Missed the point
>You guys who seem to hold resentment towards your fathers, do realise that one of the hardest things as a father, is letting your son do his own mistakes and struggle (and in turn grow stronger from the failures).
With at least some support of some kind. Learning after a mistake requires guidance. Fathers are supposed to step in and prevent terrible things while teaching lessons about the bad.
7aef1c No.5310917
I never had one. I was raised by a (very shitty) single mother. Being subjected to her childish behavior and permanent entitlement redpilled me on women by the time I was a teenager.
0cd8eb No.5311304
My father was a man's man who taught me the value of hard work, how to be a good man, and he gave me a sense of duty. I remember, for example, when he took me to work delivering bouncy houses one summer, we had to carry a heavy ass one back to the truck, and I basically pussied out on my side: I don't know how the fuck he pulled it off, but he got a surge of strength and did the whole damn thing by himself because it had to be done. The only thing I dislike about my father is that he cheated on my mother when he was younger, he was a little shit back then.
The more I grow, the more I become like my father. What's more, I understand the mistakes of my father and can work to avoid them to become, I hope, a greater man to my kids. As it stands now, if my girlfriend and I were to conceive tomorrow, I think I would make a good father. I certainly am a good role model to my nieces and nephews.
698cf0 No.5312686
>>5309445
Funny thing is I have a friend who's dad wasn't around so he was raised by all women. Super nice guy, not traditionally masculine but funnily enough he gets laid all the time. I guess he just knows all about talking to chicks since he was pretty much raised by them
6faaad No.5312946
my father left my mother before I knew how to speak, so I only know him with his wife. I always hated being around her and her family, it's like he hid his true face when he was near her. this alone fucked with me as a kid to the point I stopped seeing him for a number of years. whenever she wasn't around everything was fine, got to build, shoot, learn fun shit, talk about neat things, but as soon as she was near I was suddenly treated like the unwanted bastard child and only got worse when they started having kids, to this day it's the same and it infuriates me.
my half brother recently quested why I was around, why dad isn't with my mother, both of these at the table with everyone around. froze up and had to deflect the questions, it killed the mood and got awkward for a while after that.
he could have been a much much MUCH better father, but he didn't. never called me unless it was important on his end, like cutting child support. that was the only time he ever called to talk about school with me, is when he could cut child support due to my semester break. still pisses me off to this day. he's a smart man that I could have learned a lot from but he's a thoroughbred smug asshole.
my mother tried her best as a single mother(that can only go so far), i do thank her for not dragging strange men into our life, who knows how bad that could have ended. I've seen how fucked up some of my childhood friends became that had multiple different "step dads"
07a019 No.5313159
fb3214 No.5314344
>>5312946
Holy shit. Anecdotally sounds like my father.
I swear, my father exists solely as a n orbiter to my mom. At least before he had a not-to-cool job to go to during the day, but then he got fired. He just sits around at home doing not much. And around 30 minutes before my mother gets home, he does "correct" stuff, to make it seem like he has been doing constructive shit all day. And tasks are exagurated to get my moms approval for how he spent his day.
And I'm a copy of that, but I can't say that, because that's suddenly my choosing to be a fuck-up.
698cf0 No.5315260
Why were most of our fathers so fucked?
21973f No.5315405
>>5315260
Overbearing religious parents in an increasingly community-less society. When everything is in motion an anchor of morality can cause more harm than good. Thus, they cut the anchor. They might not say so, but like a cuckservative they will bend and give ground on issues one should be firmly against.
Often both parents have to work to pay off usury, this puts them on equal footing for providing for the family.
So many distractions that the joy of a family comes only after Seinfeld, beer brewing, CoD.
Children are a drain on resources to fuel the distractions. The more children, the less distractions.
The whole concept of "not my place to-" is now ingrained in our culture. Apply this to anything your father didn't stop or initiate that you felt he should have. "Not my place to force religion on my child". "Not my place to determine his schooling". "Not my place to tell him how to use his money". etc. More often than not the mother has a whole other concept of this, and will suggest or guilt trip one into the path they prefer.
They really are unaware of it. Watch Rebel Without a Cause for the prime example of a beta husband.
7bf258 No.5315411
>>5296471
I know that feel bro. My father had the family as the priority but couldn't see the forest for the trees. He got caught in the materialist trap, that is, he worked hard to provide but did not set and activity teach amoral, ethical, spiritual standard to his children. There was the assumption that this element would fall into place as long as the material was taken care of. I learned more from reading the oddesy etc.
He came to me a few years ago and said, yeah now I realize how families really work and build wealth. He had enough time among the Chinese doing business after the army to realize some of what we as a people have forgotten.
On the downside, he found other things amongst the chink and flip women. Shit tier taste pops. Shit tier. At least it wasn't niggers.
414ade No.5315495
My dad was away a lot on business, plus he is afraid of women probably because of the dysfunctional family he grew up in.
My granddad left my grandmother to be with another woman and her kids when my dad was a boy. Then my grandmother at the time started seeing other men and bringing them home. One day she left and it was just my dad and his brother and sister, three kids, living at the house. The electricity, gas, and finally water got shut off. Then the bank seized the property and they got kicked out and had to live with their grandparents. Fucked up shit basically.
When my dad raised me he didn't play any sports with me, play catch, watch 'the game', with me. My mom was busy with bullshit like buying antiques and building teddy bears (I shit you not). So basically I was raised by TV and videogames. Later I discovered pot and cigarettes and sluts. I dicked around most of my life basically doing drugs, being a pussy, and eventually becoming a shut-in. Luckily I had a good work ethic so I had that going for me.
One day I attended a funeral. The guy at the funeral was like the fucking MAN. He was an engineer (helped build DeLorean cars), music producer, television commercial producer, basically the guy was pretty accomplished. They even played a song he wrote at his funeral. One of the people attending the funeral was a former Navy SEAL. When I shook his hand I felt like such a beta, despite him being a very gracious person. He looked like a real man: fit, clean cut, dressed sharp.
When I went home I did some soul searching, I decided I wanted to make a change. I did a little research online and I found this Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym. The professor aka head coach had won a lot of international tournaments so it seemed pretty legit. I joined up and it really changed my life. The first day I almost threw up a few times, in fact one time I ran to the bathroom and threw off my gi and stood over the toilet waiting to hurl. After a few more days of getting my shit wrecked I came home and crushed my last pack of cigarettes and threw them away, that was 7 years ago and I haven't had one since after smoking a pack a day for 16 years. In addition to the jiujitsu gym I signed up to a Muay Thai/MMA gym, they had a special going on. Turns out the coach is like this well known guy who has trained many champs in MMA (Pride/UFC). I go there and get beat up, but I still keep going. I figure facing my fears was important because my dad was such a coward and I noticed some of that in me as well. I figured if I felt fear every time I drove to class and I still went, that was a small victory. Sometimes I would pull up to the parking lot and see a certain car there and want to immediately turn around, but I didn't. I would still walk in, and afterwards I felt good and thought, 'what was I so afraid of?' Granted I got injured a few times, a broken toe, sprained ankle, black eye, but I survived to fight another day.
Fast forward 7 years, I am married with my 2nd kid on the way. I have a nice 3 bedroom house by the beach. Every year I run 1/2 marathons yearly with a good group of guys.
By the way, guess what happened to my dad? He left my mom 1 year ago for this other woman who he was fucking on the side. She's got kids in their teens and now he's playing house with this new family at the final lap in his life. She walks all over him too, he's basically a bitch. The best part is HER HUSBAND lives with them and pays my dad rent. Can you believe the cuckoldry going on there? FUUUUCK.
That's my story FWIW
7bf258 No.5315577
>>5296604
Ok, what the fug is with the previous generation (born in mid 50s to early 60s) and passive aggressiveness?
21973f No.5315593
>>5315495
Lordy, that story, that epilogue.
7bf258 No.5315647
>>5297694
Add spices? What is it that you are picky about?
9fe6c4 No.5315844
>>5296409
At this point Im not sure what to think of my father. While I do love him, he's been pretty fucking useless most of the time. I was born out of wedlock, but him and my mom always kept contact with each other. When I was eight, my mom ended up doing hard drugs and ended up involved with a gangster. So I was taken away, and a little while latter my mom moved to the other side of the country (I visit her on occasion, she has her shit together now). My dad was supposed to take care of me, but he just left me with his parents while he attended a business course in school. Before he went to school, if my mom's word is to be trusted, he just wasted his life partying all of the time. Our only father and son bonding was watching movies and playing video games together. We beat Castle Crashers together and it's one of my fondest memories with him. When I lived with my grandparents, he was so busy that he could only visit every other weekend. We rarely have and real father-son conversations, just small talk about video games, movies, and "How is your X doing?". The only things he taught me where my manners, honor, and how to hide weed from my grandma. He's currently living with his buddy and working three different jobs, a bar tender, a manager of a game's shop him and his buddy opened, and as the general manager of a bike shop his buddy owns.
I could write an essay's worth on how fucked my upbringing was, but I don't really feel like it. I'll answer any questions if you feel like asking them, I've got time to kill.
6ace88 No.5316003
>>5297082
Totally agree. I'm raising my kids in a pretty orthodox Christian faith that doesn't celebrate Christmas or Easter, but those holidays and traditions are dear to me and I want them to have the same joy and sense of wonder I had growing up. Plus I think traditions are an important pillar of society. My wife used to not give a rip and I had to do everything, decorating the house, buying and decorating the Christmas tree, taking my daughter trick or treating but now shes on board. I think she realizes the importance now
4d19f5 No.5316071
For most of life I had no interest in raising children, but thanks to /pol/ and the reality of white genocide I want at least three; preferably daughters.
My dad was an alcoholic and when he sobered up he left my mom. He was never really in my life and was barely involved with my older brother's life. Thank goodness I had my grandfather to fill the void. My mother did the best she could, but she could only do so much.
We need good men and great fathers more than anything else in this world.
39f10a No.5316109
>>5302498
>>5302530
Boomers are soft, but X gen parents are even worse.
They aren't soft, they're absent.
They don't want to spend time with their kids, they want to spend time with themselves.
At least boomer parents, like mine, did a minimum. It surely wasn't enough, and as I mentioned before, I conduct myself differently from them with my nephews garnering great results, and will do so as well with my children.
But X gen parents, and I know a lot of them, are definitely worse than boomers. They simply try to shut up their kids throwing whatever they as for at them: phones, tablets, video games, toys, candies, whatever. That or they completely brainwash their kids into being vegetarians/animal activist kids/etc.
It's different from previous gens. They either try to ignore that they have kids as much as possible, or they project themselves and their ideology on their kids like not even boomers did. Pic very related.
80c53d No.5316173
>>5316071
>wanting daughters
numale detected
your genes are so weak, you know that any sons you have wouldn't stand a chance having children as it's easier for even ugly women to find husbands.
39f10a No.5316217
>>5315495
>By the way, guess what happened to my dad? He left my mom 1 year ago for this other woman who he was fucking on the side. She's got kids in their teens and now he's playing house with this new family at the final lap in his life. She walks all over him too, he's basically a bitch. The best part is HER HUSBAND lives with them and pays my dad rent. Can you believe the cuckoldry going on there? FUUUUCK.
Your dad is basically repeating what his father did. Glad to see you broke the cycle anon.
Intelligentt men are monogamous and invest a lot in their kids and wife. Congrats on your conquests and good luck conquering more and more as you go.
6ace88 No.5316226
>>5316071
I was the same way, I didn't want kids, but I read a book that basically red pilled me on demographics and how fucked the situation is. It totally changed my mind and I made sure the woman I married was on board with having a big family. We're having our 2nd child this June. We want 4 kids but MAN this shit ain't easy, anon. It is pretty awesome though, being a dad and sort of righting all the wrongs of your own childhood
698cf0 No.5316245
>>5316109
Jesus, what kind of lame motherfuckers think Bernie is cool?
That brings up another point
Why were our fathers/parents so lame?
The "lame" dad wasn't a thing till what the 70s?
There was assertive and un-hip, but the rise of the beta 'yes dear' father is recent.
bca66a No.5316305
6faaad No.5316735
I saw some terrible parents today while lurking about a thrift shop, the obese mother and nu-male father (maybe?) had their son laying down in the cart watching God knows what on a phone at full volume. the kid looked like a zombie.
I managed to score a drawing tablet though, so have the first terrible OC I made with it.
fb3214 No.5317308
>>5316245
I can only speculate.
I think some of it had to do with WWII, and a lot of man-men died, so it was up to the women and beta cucks to make society function meanwhile.
And since the West was on the right side of history, it was ripe to be subversed.
On top of that, more and more jobs were externalized (I don't know if this is some official term). So father and son could no longer bond when doing practical things. You hire a plumber, you hire a mechanic (no need to drag your kid with you for that shit), you pay for a new vacuum cleaner and so on. Less fixing, more consuming.
As part of the technological advancement, consumer technology increased fast. Kids grew up with electronic gadgets their parents didn't have. So it created a (big) wall between what a father could actually teach.
Would a 12 year old rather work on the car, or be engulfed in flashy colors from the screen while eating candy.
The food-thing is another big deal, my parents talk of a time where they got one 0.33 l of coke on a saturday weekend, to watch whatever weekly show they sent on the telly. This is not something I had the "joy" of experiencing. 12 liters of coke costs like $10 or whatever. And your father wants you to have it better, so they don't want to deny you the joy of the coke, like they had to endure.
21718f No.5317372
>>5299511
>Second one
Every time
065adb No.5320670
>>5299511
My fucking heart.
13dcbe No.5320704
I hit the bottle all too often after thinking on these questions. Coming to the realization that I will likely never be a father myself is extremely painful. I don't even think that I would be a particularly bad father, but the issue of finding a decent woman combined with the fact that children are raised more by strangers and electronics has just about defeated me. I've been genuinely thinking about abandoning education and going to seminary, or better yet just walking off the grid.
I'm a bit lucky that my parents were born right on the bleeding edge of gen X, with my grandparents being wartime babies, they never got the full blast of the 60s and 70s degeneracy. My mother is a good woman, terribly naive, as all women are, but she did her part in raising me. My father though is an autist. He's a high ranking engineer in the defense industry so he isn't any sort of idiot, but he is so dogmatic and arrogant on the most ridiculous things while being ambivalent to many big issues. I'm terrible at mathematics; I can work up to basic calc, but not much more, the reasoning is there, but my mental arithmetic is not. This is an issue I've had for a very long time, as far back in my schooling as I can remember. Naturally, STEM is not for me. While I study lit, history, and philosophy in my own time, I have no interest at all in a lib arts degree; I'd much rather go into something blue collar. This was unacceptable to my parents, but especially my father. I can almost understand my mother's objection to my desired path, her never having obtained a degree, and thus living vicariously through me, but my father though is something else. It was a few months ago, during college application season yes I am a high school fag still that he essentially sat me down for an ultimatum. He poured me half a glass of beer, completely blind to an increasingly obvious drinking problem, and gave me a few options: sell my ass to the military, go for a degree that he would pay for, or get all but disowned. He would rather pay for a worthless degree than see me doing real work.
There isn't any level of hostility between us, he doesn't have the self awareness for that. Lately he's been complaining that I'm not the alpha male I should be. He'd prefer that I'd be a benchwarmer on the basketball team than captain of the fencing team, take home used up cheerleaders rather than write a novel- completely ignorant of the fact that he never once offered anything close to guidance in being a man. I learned by reading. Ernst Junger offered more to me than he has. Hell, anons on /pol/ have offered me more fatherly advice.
Lord knows I've needed to rant.
0b4294 No.5320745
>>5297090
If anyone wants to know the ACTUAL truth about satanism, instead of the standard jew spread lies, you might want to go here: www.joyofsatan.org
065adb No.5320751
My father wasn't there for me, but I don't blame him.
He wanted our family to be well off, so he worked his ass off overseas. I saw him may be two weeks a year growing up. He sent home around 10k USD a month, which my bi-polar mother pissed away.
He trusted my mom to raise us properly, which she completely failed to do. You know who raised me? Batman. I grew up watching the old cartoons and got my sense of right and wrong from the caped crusader.
He's raised the topic before. He told me his biggest regret was not being there for us when we were growing up, but I forgive him because I understood his reasoning and the circumstances.
deb12e No.5320784
>>5299511
>>5320704
>>5320751
>>5315495
>>5317372
Every time.
>>5312686
It allows for many opportunities, however you also have other dudes around trying to fuck your sister.
21973f No.5320837
>>5320704
Anon, that you want to walk away from it all is exactly the reason you need to stay.
Tell him you have your reasons and if he'd be willing to listen you will tell him. Hell, if he is as chill as he sounds tell him about us.
Otherwise sell yourself to the military. One, it doesn't sound like you have any plans ahead and lets face it, you won't be missing anything of value. Two, you might get closer to him and understand where he is coming from.
Also, if a coworker of mine's experience is repeatable, brewing your own beer makes you drink less. It's a nice hobby that is easy to get into but is incredibly deep in nuance, and some psychological trickery makes you not want to drink it all.
>>5320751
We really are a lucky ass lot to have the most moral oriented cartoons every Saturday morning. In the long run him and Supes will have converted more to Christianity than any saint in history.
98d6dd No.5321268
>>5320704
You might consider doing just a 2 year associates degree at an affordable community college to get all the basic classes out of the way. This will give you some time to figure out what you want to do with yourself without burning a bunch of money. They are typically cheap enough that you can pay for it yourself if it comes to that. Just make sure the classes are transferable.
The first two years of college is basically "everything I should have learned in highschool but now I actually have the motivation to get those easy A's"
An example from my own life: After highschool, I had no idea what to do with myself, so a worked a factory job managing a warehouse and machining parts for a few years. Then I got an interest in agriculture, so moved to fucking kansas and got a 2yr associates, and got crop scouting job lined up, which I did for two years. Between seasons I repaired tires and changed oil at a co-op taught me about cars, and now I fix my own.
Liked what I was doing, so I moved to a place I actually wanted to live and continued scouting and am now beginning to function as a researcher doing plot trials. Never been in debt, and every dime I've spend has been out of my own pocket.
My dad was ok while growing up, but our relationship is pretty great now. He was dealing with his own anger issues, the divorce fallout from my literally crazy mother (to highlight this, the judge was initially obviously sympathetic to my mother, but eventually gave my dad full custody because of her shit), and the fact that his own dad died young and he had no idea what he was doing. I basically had to build my idea of how to be a man largely on my own, with my primary influences being
1) Imageboards, especially the gun related ones.
2) Going outside and doing shitty hard work with assholes and learning to love it.
6854f5 No.5321865
Mostly inspired from historical leaders, notably Churchill, Mao, Mussolini, Omar Bradley, Patton, Alexander the Great and Napoleon. The greatest lesson I've learned from all these great men was to keep on going, no matter the adversity. Continue despite failures. Seek greatness. Seek purpose.
2dc62e No.5322109
>>5308990
Very true, eventually we did grow up and mellow out.
I used to support gay rights and be a neet, but those day are over, and so are the days of multiple love interests, now there is one love.
cb2a5f No.5322158
>>5296471
Straight up man. My dad is alpha as fuck in a lot of ways, but he took a soft approach with me. Thankfully I was raised by the right corners of the internet and I'm turning out quite well.
382f1d No.5323529
Reminder to have at least 3 kids
6e1ac1 No.5323557
I'm willing to bet most of us grew up with shitty fathers who were either too distant or too violent or weren't there at all.
5c7f6b No.5323642
>>5323529
3 is the minimum
5 is the ideal
8 is the inspiring
11 is the soccer team
cf0932 No.5323681
>>5323642
>11 fucking kids
Hot dogs… hallways.
At that point they would probably just slide out on their own like a waterslide of blood.
5c7f6b No.5323732
>>5323681
sliding kids as hard as the jidf slides /pol/ threads
3cb46f No.5323826
>>5296409
My father was short-tempered, and installed an irrational fear of asking him questions, but mostly for things. He installed the right thinking (do it yourself) but in the wrong way. Also, he was a bit rude and would help me "too much" with homework at an early age, to the point where I became rather lazy. I never liked him much, because he was always playing games when he wasn't working, and he wasted his genes on a half-Korean bastard, despite knowing full well of racial differences same with my mother; at least my grandmother didn't know what she was doing, and I can't really blame her. I began to loathe my mother, mainly after I expressed my distaste with how whites are treated, and she replied "I've got news for you honey—you aren't white." This implies she knew full well of what she was doing when- anyway, this is about the father
I look up mostly to God and Hitler.
>tfw you can never have your own kids because of Jews pushing miscegenation
1799a6 No.5323838
Be sure to teach your kids about antisemitism and the holocause. You woulnd't want it to happen again? Oy vey!
3cb46f No.5323840
>>5296490
This too
I then began to become brainwashed by media/schools, but thanks to /pol/ I'm better.
3cb46f No.5323846
>>5323826
*Also, he would white-knight my mother. It always seemed he loved her more than his own kids.
Fucking boomers, I swear.
3cb46f No.5323872
>>5323846
>>5323840
>>5323826
Not to mention, they kicked me out of the house the moment I turned 18, and I was expected to pay for college ("When I was your age, I could etc"). Ended up living at a friend's house for awhile. I'm glad I chose them wisely.
00ae8d No.5324147
>>5316226
>but I read a book that basically red pilled me on demographics
What book, may I ask?
>>5306456
This is not true.
9308e4 No.5336334
>>5323642
>11 is the soccer SG1 team
>ftfy
Turn your woman's vagina into a Stargate!!
29a175 No.5365817
>>5315495
Who has your coach trained?
And would you ever consider fighting at an amateur level?
ae4893 No.5365936
My dad is a cuck and is currently raising 3 other children that are not his own :(
ae4893 No.5365951
My dad is a cuck and is currently raising 3 other children that are not his own… :(
ca05ae No.5366112
>>5296409
Yeahhh…
I'm going to have to go ahead kind-of disagree with you on this. Patriarchy is the foundation of the oppression of the catholic church. By that I mean fathers abusing their sons and the community condoning it kept the peasantry stupid and submissive to authority. The greatest tool the oligarchy uses against the public are the stupid, violent people running amok. Society is a prison, they are the security guards, and they will give you to bubba if you challenge their authority or speak on the maltreatment of prisoners.
1dbe23 No.5366223
>>5299511
>first cap
there's something fundamentally wrong with society and its in all of us
21973f No.5366317
>>5366112
By all means, free the prisoners.
See what it has done for society, the abolition of community. Think, what does an idiot do with freedom? There are many locked up for their own good, and freeing them means danger to themselves and the rest. I know too many good idiots who get themselves hurt.
A better system for making the guards is needed, but by necessity it must be those who gain most from stability who are chosen.
Most serfs were perfectly fine with their situation. If society were to be restructured I believe a sort of feudalism, a trained and proper gent and his flock he must protect and account for, would be preferable to "equality". An informed vote, with a governorship chosen by these minor-learned-lords.
I really want my coat of arms to mean something god damnit
ca05ae No.5366458
>>5366317
Why don't you emigrate to saudi arabia. You'd love it there.
21973f No.5366642
>>5366458
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
65474b No.5366653
I'm conflicted about becoming a father. Personality traits and emotions are most certainly genetic, and I see myself inadvertently acting more and more like my old man every day. This is why I'm hesitant to commit to becoming a father, particularly because I am terrified of becoming my old man.
He's on his third marriage now, he treats the family surname like a cheap commodity and hands it out to whatever woman he marries and whatever kids he takes on. Ours is a unique one without many remaining blood descendants and he just imparts it onto these fucking kids without hesitation. Not to mention, he treated me like shit in my early years and practically bullied me when I was a child in teeball. I love the man and everything good he has imparted onto me, but I don't want to put my kid through the same stress.
21973f No.5366726
>>5366653
Anon, you are self conscience. You know you have bad traits. You should know how to mitigate them.
That you are tentative to be a father means you are good to be one. You are a good person if you want to be one, you are a good father if you don't want to be a bad one.
13f98d No.5366849
i hate my father. sure he gave the money for a good education but he didn't teach me shit. he's very childish and he doesn't want me to grow as a man (he thinks im competing with him since i now provide food for the table). never taught me anything and laughs at me when i say i want to learn some stuff from him.
also, my parents both were over protective so i didn't get to hang outside the house that often making me a pussified faggot without that much friends until i met you guys. they're very liberal and i think that's the case why they chose that style of parenting.
Thankfully, i stumbled upon /pol/ or else i would become an autistic faggot.
81d6fd No.5366867
>>5296540
Yeah, they somewhat miss the technical details of prosperity and scarcity.
If you had a good life, and it was tough, don't coddle your chu
65474b No.5366872
>>5366726
I don't think my old man really understands most of what he put me through, though. He's not a bad person. Apparently he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, but it was a very light variation that didn't impede his basic social functions. He just seems incapable of staying consistent.
My worries mostly stem from his addictive personality and BPD. He was a moving target and it was seriously frustrating when I was growing up before I knew him well enough to know what he actually wanted.
I've considered seeing a psychologist to determine if I have any of the markers for any of the traits my father had. He seemed unable to understand that he had these personality difficulties and I don't think he has ever grasped those facts (it was my mother and other family that told me of his diagnoses).
81d6fd No.5366911
>>5296540
Yeah, they somewhat miss the technical details of prosperity and scarcity.
If you had a good life, and it was tough, don't coddle your children - increase the toughness and increase the praise. Positive reinforcement with increased difficulty.
Circumstances equal the outcome in this case - extraordinary circumstances make extraordinary people, and paradise circumstances make people who have the skills and values required to live in a paradise - none.
Explains why Africans are, literally, retarded. Evolution did not require them to advance intellectually.
aa4942 No.5366932
>self loathing closetfags: the thread
81d6fd No.5366943
>>5315577
The new age cuckservative happy-dory Bible belt Christians. The types who will kill you with a smile.
I AM NOT ATTACKING CHRISTIANITY THERE ARE ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS also angry traditionalist fascist Catholics are the funnest christians and we need to rediscover the traditions of old Catholicism and Protestantism that are nationalist and racist. Would be lovely
81d6fd No.5367011
>>5296913
Ex satanist here. Satanism can include dieties, which is esoteric satanism / luciferianism. There are sects that do indeed worship Satan as a God.
my sect believed devils and Satan were one half of an alien race that created us by splicing genes with apes and that we can fight against Angels, the creation of the other half of the alien race (to enslave our souls and planet earth, blah blah) by meditating and believing in Satan as our Creator and other mildly insane shit. I also did a blood contract (it was a full page long) giving my soul to Satan at >13.
Edgy retardation. Luckily I have had 0 experiences with any kind of paranormal entity. Kinda sucks because I believe in ghosts, demons, and religious entities. I'm traditionalist Catholic now.
cc28b2 No.5367101
>>5366849
Sounds like your parents are the material needed for breeding these "new age" liberals.
Nothing but conformity coupled with a sense to not succeed your parents is pretty much what allows your average liberal to grow as he accepts conformist ideals like "equality", pacifism, and tolerance. Glad you came to /pol/, brother, otherwise you might have become one of them.
I came out from a single mother home but I began to grow as an adult at the age of 6 as I changed diapers for my siblings and tried to bring bread into our home. Kind of made me the father figure at a young age. Maybe that's why I have this half-and-half relationship with my mother as an equal and as my maternal figure that I should honor.
Hopefully this makes me a better parent now that I've had some second hand experience in raising kids.
c651a2 No.5367129
I agree.
A particularly great illustration of Fatherhood is Prescott Bush, who gave millions to Hitler, and raised George Bush, who did his thing, and raised Jeb Bush.
Way to go, Nazi Bush. You really knocked it out of the park with that grandson, oh and that time your black magician buddy Hitler got his ass handed to him.
78f2ee No.5367190
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>>5316003
>being on pol
>orthodox christian faith
But why? Christianity teaches everything opposite of what pol stands for.
Get rid of that filthy sand religion and return to our roots.
Unless you are an arab/syrian/Palestinian. Then sure, but try to go back before judaism and find your real religion, the gods the Mesopotamians and Egyptians worshipped.
1b04e3 No.5367289
>That feel when raised by single mom
>That feel when she makes you call her illiterate fucktoys "dad" but they never call you "son"
>That feel when they laugh at you for going Christian and waitong for marriage.
Flash forward and I married a hot virgin. I have kids of my own that I do NOT allow that side of the family to see. I am learning how to dad. My father-in-law is teaching me. He is such a good man and so proud of me as well. My son is so much more confident then me, and my daughter is so secure she never demands attention from strangers.
Feelsgoodman.jpg
This truly is the basis of all society. I'm really happy. No anti-depressants for 4 years.
1b04e3 No.5367329
>>5367190
If the Thor and Hercules crap was superior it would have beat the Jesus freaks of antiquity. It did not.
Christendom is our best hope of bringing back the morals of fidelity, family, hard work, and virgin waifus.
aa0177 No.5367356
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>>5367190
>pol
Otherwise you're correct.
This is one of my favourite of his.
81d6fd No.5367408
>>5367190
What about nationalist racist aryan catholicism as may have been practiced before the Bible and many teachings were jew'd up?
we could even form a new split. Similar to esoteric hitlerism but based off an actual diety
98090a No.5367801
>>5367289
Mein neger. Good job growing beyond your family's degeneracy.
I was lucky to have a number of positive male role models in my life even though my dad didn't bother to do anything with me. He spent most of his life fishing and hunting and exploring, and then he never wanted to do any of that with me. I was taught a lot about being a man by working for a few good men who saw potential in me and took me under their wing.
It really does take a village to raise a child, anon, take care what community you're a part of and make the effort to improve your community. I'm building a community between friends and extended family to help show my blonde blue eyed kids what a functioning society looks like.
As an aside, that's something else I want to bring up - A community derives its strength by who it keeps out as much as who it lets in. I don't associate with degenerates, and none of my friends do, either.
500768 No.5367878
Can anyone remind what the site was for getting papers from behind paywalls?
>>5316173
[citation!]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Kanazawa%20S[Author]&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=15748918
this guy (must have been mentioned here before, I recognized his face) seems to have a lot of studies about that. Haven't looked into due to innawoods.
>>5366653
>>5366872
>but I don't want to put my kid through the same stress.
Then don't. You don't sound like him.
If he's 'borderline' but still functions normally, he sounds like he's really just a misdiagnosed dick. So does he treat everyone like shit and bully them?
>>5367190
>>5367356
Does anyone have his old videos archived anywhere?
a68e05 No.5368092
>>5296409
>Are you a father? If so, what's it like? What's it take to be a good father?
• Love
• Appropriate physical contact: lots of hugs and kisses until they're too old for more than quick ones
• Patience
• Understanding
• Discipline. Don't hit them, ESPECIALLY not the girls, as they'll mentally pair "hitting" with "someone who loves them" and the next thing you know, you've got a black son-in-law. Time outs usually suffice, in the early years. Cultivate a voice of command, much as if you're training a dog. It may sound silly, but toddlers are very much like dogs. They crave a leader and they crave a routine. Just don't let them poop in the yard.
• Trust-until-lost, not distrust-until-proven.
• Respect. If you wouldn't want your kid doing it to you, don't do it to your kid unless it's absolutely necessary, such as intruding on privacy or personal items. Obviously, if you suspect something's wrong, get in there and search.
• Honesty whenever possible, even if it's going to make you uncomfortable, but only the darker truths if they're old enough to understand them. No need to scare them.
• Courage. Hooboy, will you need courage.
• Watching shows/playing games with them to make sure they aren't being programmed by outside forces on your watch, and deprogramming anything you come across. Yes, that means you have to watch the fucking ponies with your daughter if required to do so. That doesn't mean you have to watch something gay as fuck like Steven Universe, though. Keep that shit out of your house. Know when it's time to censor the filth.
• Sacrifice. Time, money, sleep…everything that is called for. You will give this willingly, up to and including your life. Do anything less and you're merely a nigger, regardless of your skin color.
• Abandonment. They WILL pull away as teenagers. You WILL suddenly feel ashamed as you realize what a little shit you were to YOUR parents. One might still be good with the mother while constantly busting your chops. Or it might be the other way around. Keep your cool and do your crying in private, because if you constantly lash out at them for hurting you, you'll hurt them so hard, they might not come back once the pulling away is over. That doesn't mean, however, that you have to eat all their shit with a spoon. It just means you have to pick your battles.
As a special bonus for any new fathers or ones who are going to be, let me share this very important protip:
DO THE DIAPER DUTY WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
My babies went from crying and clutching their mom whenever they saw me to smiling and cooing gibbering whenever I walked into the room. My secret? The diapers. They stopped seeing me as that weird homunculus they didn't know from any of the other faces and started seeing me as the one that made them feel nice and clean and soothed their sore diaper-rash areas. It's an INVALUABLE time to bond with your baby, and, as an added bonus, the wife won't be able to stop bragging to her friends about what a man you are for stepping up and taking over one of the worst duties of having a new kid. The tired smile of relief she'll give you will keep you going as you mentally speculate as to how a diet of breat milk can achieve fecal sludge that smells like a McChicken™.
98090a No.5368097
>>5367878
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Zc33N34AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra
>Why liberals and atheists are more intelligent (2010)
hmm some of the titles are kek worthy but this shit doesn't seem very scientific.
98090a No.5368100
2c0434 No.5368170
>tfw you got married a few months ago
>tfw realizing you're a 6'2'' man of nordic and irish descent
>tfw realizing your wife is a 5'6'' woman of pacific islander descent
>tfw she's pregnant with your son
>tfw you've forever tainted your bloodline
All I guess I can do now is be a good father and raise my son as my grandfather raised me when my father died.
94c3ec No.5368329
>>5368170
Or you could just do what Strom Thurmond did and pay/see your kid now and then and then go off and have a big white family.
22b4b0 No.5368561
>>5296540
>>5296471
>>5296652
>>5296604
>For me I think it definitely comes from my parents never really genuinely talking to me
fucking feels…
this is me to a T and i think there are alot of us like this. i was not exposed to how relationships are supposed to be. never taught anything. parents didnt really care about us kids.
i never saw my parents being intimate in any way. no kissing. no hugging. no compliments. no nothing.
needless to say im a late 20s virgin who has no idea how to deal with women. theres a difference between being a pussy with women (which im not, i have quite good confidence) and actually not knowing what to do with them or picking up on basic social cues, like it actually feels awkward. ive had a girl start crying in front of me, obviously the thing to do would be to be empathetic. maybe give a hug or something. nope, not me. just stood there like an awkward fucker.
i can talk to girls fine, but as soon as i realize a girl is hitting on me or is attracted (and im attracted to them), it all falls apart. i have no idea how to handle it.
its sickening how socially stunted i am.
22b4b0 No.5368571
>>5368561
meant to include
>>5296686
3b4a1e No.5368626
>>5296913
Satanism is worship of the self and a casting away of all duty and tradition and culture for your own pleasure. Satan fell from grace because of his pride, naturally his religion is to make people all feel like him. There are other religions similar to Satanism with different names, all it really comes down to is whether said religion has you worship yourself or think you're a god or something along that line. (i.e. mormonism)
3b4a1e No.5368632
>>5368170
Why? What would make you attracted to a smash-nosed, low IQ, primitive seafaring-nigger?
2c0434 No.5368638
>>5368632
I don't know,goddamnit.
3b4a1e No.5368642
>>5323826
All that means is you can be one of the soldiers for the God Emperor and have no strings attached to hold you back, no mercy.
3b4a1e No.5368658
>>5368626
Forgot the obvious (((Judaism aka Talmudism aka Jewish Mysticism)))
d88d76 No.5368674
>>5299511
Thanks for ruining my day, cunt.
62600c No.5368676
>>5296540
"Pain makes men strong, and comfort makes men weak. Hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men, and weak men make hard times."
62600c No.5368736
13f98d No.5368983
>>5367101
Yeah, i wouldnt wish my parents to my enemies. The fucking horror it would bring.
Well at least you had it good with being independent on a very young age.
Also,
>tfw no younger sibling to red pill
I hope your sibling becomes as red pilled as we are
1bb790 No.5369005
>>5300802
I think you may be on to something anon.
Their are forces at work so deep, so powerful, that the petty machinations of merchants are completely outclassed.
We ride on the wave of history, we will be the new patriarchy.
c62f03 No.5369106
I know my dad tried his best in raising me. He had no father of his own and the closest thing he had to a father figure was one of a long line of ex-con niggers.
I was mostly raised by my mother. She's an amazing woman, who made few mistakes to my mind.
I feel like there's a lot of areas that only a dad could hit that mine missed though. Discipline, mainly. And just being a steadfast example of masculinity in general. He had a small temper and a lot of bipolar tendencies.
He also had very little patience and as a result I had to learn most things on my own. And the things that I did learn were usually opposite to his interests.
All in all I'm not bitter, because I know he did his best, and I know that I am going to be capable of raising better functioning people than him as well as myself. And that's what it's all about; improvement over generations.
d9e697 No.5369270
>>5368632
>>5368638
Women have this innate fucking talent to trap men into marriage, a lot of the married men I talk to said that one day they were fucking sluts and the next day they woke up with a wedding ring, 2 kids, and a fat wife
041cec No.5369372
>>5296409
>It is from our fathers we are supposed to learn what it means to be a man,
How did that work out? Fucked up big time.
Hitlerjugends, kulturkrieg, that is the answer.
5a7ec8 No.5369907
I love my old man, he was great to me and I want nothing more in the world than to be an even better father than he was. He tought me right from wrong, tought me everything that he knew; mechanics, welding, rigging, carpentry, too this day he's still teaching me new things, and it's great because we race speedway together. No one can beat the old boy, to me he's the pinnacle of what a man should be.
It seems strange perhaps, but I have multiple father figures, despite my father being the best to me, other men tought me as they'd teach their son. When I was about 17 my parents split up, I was upset about it but old enough to not be affected. It sort of felt like I didn't have a family left anymore, as I'd no longer see mum and dad in the same place at the same time and I never seen my sister because we never got along. My girlfriend's family at the time knew about all this and they kind of took me in as a surrogate son, her dad was a legend, he never had a son, just two daughters, he loved them to bits. Whenever I was around at their house in bumfucknowhere he'd teach me everything he knew about farming, cattle and machinery. He'd tell me stories of how when he was only a young fella he was pulling the weeds out of his grandfather's garden, being lazy about it though, his grandpa came out and have him a kick up the arse and told him that his father would be disappointed in how lazy he was being. From that day on that man strived to be the best and do better than everyone else in his trades, for he was the son of his father and he wanted no one to think that his father raised him wrong. Unfortunatly that girl and I broke up, went our separate ways, so I haven't seen her or her father in many years. Really loved her, I wanted my children to come from her.
I'm probably rambling on but that's how I was raised, I had one father and he's the greatest, but I've had many figures that I look up to through out my life.
ME NE FREGO
21973f No.5381864
>>5368632
>Nigger
I don't know anon, pacific Islanders can become quite cultured. They're certainly above bix nood level
21973f No.5381876
Hotwheels I beg a boon of you, let me posts show?
0652eb No.5399204
>>5296727
If anything, I think that my father letting me give up every sport I wanted just because I wasn't that good or became bored with it is the greatest life lesson he ever gave me…
If I everything came easy it wouldn't be worth it… when I think about my friends winning medals, getting tons of pussy, going to international competitions, forging friendships that trascend language and nationality I say too myself "why the fuck didn't I try just a little"….
Some people might think that my dad (and your dad in our case) coddled us but the way I see it is that they showed us that "you reap what you sow" well atleast that's how my dad is with me, he is there to help me get up but sure as hell let's me fuck up and see the consecuences of my actions… he might not be the best father in the world but sure as hell he is the only person I would never change in any single way
0652eb No.5399311
>>5308907
This is why I redpilled my little brother early on, he is thirteen now (I think I always forget my siblings ages I only know that he is ten years younger and I will be 24 this year) and while he acts like a brat (because he is a fucking child) he knows about the jew, how leftism is idiocity and corrupts society and always scolds my leftist sister when she starts spouting feminist bullshit (then the whole family joins because we are all pretty conservative)
I have thought him to search for the truth, not the bullshit they teach him in school and he is always researching and asking me about things he finds out… I'm proud of him and I wish someone did the same with me and spared me the "rebel" leftist years I had in high school
359506 No.5399335
My father forged me, in every way that matters. I love him very much, and have tremendous respect for him. Intense discipline, and also very loving. Regardless of how strict he had to be with me (I was a wild youth), it never crossed my mind that I wasn't the most important thing in his life (along with my brother).
As he sacrificed so much for me, so shall I do the same for my children. As there are also traditions past down that we have not lost for as far back as my father and his father and his father can say. That will continue on.
I only hope to be as wise as him someday. A Godly man who knows what to do, in what ways, at what times, in the right manner, for the right reasons.
00e167 No.5422217
9388b8 No.5423428
>>5296657
suck it up
It's a new world, learn to live in it.
653f0c No.5429357
>>5315495
Capped for you fam.
653f0c No.5429670
>>5296409
Hapa kid here.
My parents raised me to breed the Asian part out of me, father white, mother Filipino. I've gone to the Philippines a few times and I absolutely abhor the country and what it represents. Love about a third of my family's clan though; that's about it. I'd only go back if it meant I could get them out of that shithole. I still can't get over the fact that there is a grand total of 5 different body shapes for those guys over there.
Anyway, my mother never taught me the mother-tongue… and now I understand why. She was raising my brother, sister, and I to live without that heritage, to never yearn for that country ever, and understand the reason why she left that country to begin with to marry a redneck from Texas. She wanted us to be a part of a superior nature. Not fall into a love for the Asian Quarantine. They don't have any respect or love for their own country's heritage from what I can tell.
My father taught me a lot. A farm boy who became a oil engineer, he's been all over the world and from time to time, he tells me of some of the shit he's seen. I know he likes to keep his secrets, but it's more along the lines that he doesn't know when to bring them up, or whether or not I'd be interested. All I know is that it's from him that I learned how to spin a yarn, and that's going to carry me on to whatever tales I publish.
I learned from my mother that I'd want a large family, but from my father, I learned just how important it is to be there for them… even when that's not physically possible.
5dc944 No.5430485
>>5296409
I never knew what it was like to have a father, until I saw Trump.
dc0029 No.5448726
My dad was never hard on me. He saw me as a failure to the utmost.
When I graduated High School, I originally wanted to go into coding, I went to a trade school instead he was disdainful of that choice. (it never worked out) I ended up going to a local Community College, and that didn't really pan out either.
When I converted to Orthodox Christianity, my dad didn't like that choice, and in fact attacked me verbally on said choice.
Most of my choices I've made in life my dad didn't like and was condescending to choice.
My dad gave me everything on how to live, but the will to live was something I had to teach myself.
My mom was a workaholic and a gymrat, thus rarely saw her unless she forced me and my sister to go to the gym or Crossfit.
Thankfully I discovered /pol/ and am now learning a trade and how to be a man.
211c07 No.5455091
My dad is a weakling and always has been. He never spent any time with me or my siblings. He was always hanging out with his friends during his free time. Never encouraged me to do sports. I spent my entire childhood in front of the TV or computer (ages 6-17). He never gave a shit about me being a depressed weakling throughout my childhood and teenage years. He didn't stop me from smoking weed and taking drugs like MDMA and amphetamines during my most degenerate years because he was scared that I might get mad at him. He found out that I was regularly drunk on weekdays and still was too scared to say anything.
He always showed subtle hints of being a massive cuck. He sometimes talked about how blacks just simply make better music than whites (they have more soul). They are genetically better athletes (white boxers just can't compete with black boxers). Yet he absolutely lost his shit during a car ride when I was 13 when I suggested that maybe races have different levels of intelligence. He always tried to ridicule strong men and always tried to make them seem like dumb brutes (the: if you're physically strong you're just compensating for being dumb meme). He liked to make fun of the Klitschko brothers because he thought they were dumb brutes when they obviously show a lot more intelligence than him.
He spent 20 years in an unhappy marriage, not man enough to set things right. Didn't want to get divorced because he thought it would damage us kids. He never spent time with us kids. All he did after work was browse the internet on his phone until bedtime. Slept on the couch for the last 3 years of marriage until he was caught cheating on my mother with a long time family friend. Now he's married to this woman, and hes always thanking me for being a father figure to his stepkids. He's too feminized to be a father figure to his own stepkids.
Apparently he was a scumbag when he was young. He was still addicted to drugs when my mom was pregnant with my big brother. He was a literal communist when he was 20-25 even though his dad spent 2 years in the trenches during WW2 fighting the commie rats. He was a degenerate punk rocker in his teens.
He's a terrible father, but I still like him because I think he's been made this way by terrible parenting (just like me, except I'm getting stronger and better every day). I try my best to redpill him. But I feel like when I make progress in one area, he goes back to reading some leftist tabloid article and gets bluepilled in some other area. His dad was a depressed mess after the war. His mother was a degenerate whore and a severe alcoholic that simply disappeared when my dad was 7 years old. 10 years later they got a postcard from her that basically said "Hey guys, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm living in Buenos Aires with my spic boyfriend and our son, I'm coming to meet you some day!" The only reason I haven't disowned him is because I can relate to him. We both had shitty childhoods. And then there's the father-son bond although it's very weak.
I think a real man should try extremely hard to set things right before turning his back on his own parent.
6584a3 No.5456003
My dad's a great man, but he's a bit of a beta when it comes to asserting himself, and he got completely cuck'd by my mom, both during their marriage and in the divorce. He also did a terrible job of guiding me through life, himself having rebelled hard against his own parents and he more or less decided the best path for his kids would be to just blaze their own trails with relatively little guidance. That shit didn't work and produced two neet sons (luckily I broke out of the neet curse eventually, unfortunately my brother still has not).
Lessons learned:
1) don't let your wife emotionally terrorize yourself or your kids
2) put your wife in her place as needed
3) don't marry an old, liberal whore that's only interested in you for money
4) assert yourself
5) make an effort to spend time with your kids, talk about your own past and do shit with them
6) guide your kids, talk about their future and their options in life
Now he wasn't a complete failure. He broke the cycle of abusive, alcoholic fathers so deserves massive kudos in that respect. Wish I had a better relationship with him these days tbh.
0168a9 No.5456172
>>5296490
You're not alone.
dfea0a No.5456239
>>5298502
>heaven help me if I need to do some heavy reprogramming for the billionth time.
Dude this is one of the best thing about being a male. The ability to recognise faults and correct them. I live for these moments where I need to reprogram myself because I am actively bettering myself. I get that you're tired of it and just want to be in a good state but then where is the joy in that? The journey is the process.
fb3214 No.5456294
>>5456239
sounds like a liberal, m8.
The joy of social studies is becoming aware of all the undiscovered genders, pronouns and shit.
The thing is, with as broken soul, you are using that broken soul to supposedly fix your broken soul. However, you have no concept of how your soul is broken.
7abb25 No.5457221
>>5296517
Fuck off Sven, no cucks allowed
7abb25 No.5457284
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>5296744
Jesus Christ, how's 8th grade?
cc2d16 No.5457334
The best fathers are the geeky, effeminate and socially incompetent ones goyim. Trust me, you only want a father with a weak will that never enforces his will but always tries to rudely access his emotions in a childish manner!
The best men are those that dyes their hair and insists on not working "manual labor" due to academic intelligence. The Best father is a smug lonely and isolated person with bad hygene and even worse habits. Trust me goyim! He He He.
d6fabd No.5457351
>>5296409
is that why yall suck trumps dick so much? LOL
muh daddy issues
92e67d No.5457390
Father of 6 here, an asshole son to a good father.
My father is a very good man. Large family. Poor, hard working, Christian. Taught me a lot, not as much as he should have but I was a stubborn little bastard. Taught me to garden and figure things out on my own without asking. Multiple jobs but he was home a lot and that was more valuable than money. Pushed me into sports. 7 years of football. Told me to be a leader. Taught me a foreign language when I was in grade school.
The only flaw besides not teaching me enough mechanical shit, was that he was too nice, too forgiving. If everyone was like him we'd have heaven on earth, but my kindness is for my family first, the rest of the world will get what it has coming.
Now I'm a father of 6. 3 boys, 3 girls. The wife is a big titted German frau. Poor as hell because I graduated college into the Great Recession. Getting some gov food benefit, better going to me than to some niggers.
I don't think too much about how I parent. They are very young. It is pretty easy. I give them love and affection, but never tolerate lies. My oldest is turning out well, smart, strong. He is nicer than me but he knows how to punch better than I did in first grade. I have him read abridged adventure stories from the last couple centuries. Robinson Crusoe and 20,000 Leagues. He will also learn Deutsch and Latin once he's a bit older. Classical education and classical values. Philosophy to inoculate him against the modern Jew.
I really can't say enough about my wife. She is a natural beauty, a great body, perfect for childbirth. Nurturing and artistic. Mediocre cook but a good baker. A willingly submissive woman, a paragon of virtue. She was enough of a social outsider growing up that she was easy to redpill. A family built on a woman like that could easily stand against the tides of Marxist degeneracy for generations.
413f59 No.5457463
I love my dad. I'd give him a warm kiss.
94c3ec No.5457529
>>5457390
>still posts on /pol/
sounds like fantasy to me
d79a0d No.5457690
>>5367011
looks like you found occultism but then you fell back into the mundane life and got bluepilled
from what you said, i guess it was JoS
Esoteric Hitlerism is the only way
92e67d No.5457728
>>5457529
If anything I have more stake in the future than you do, so I'm likely even more extremist.
Which part was the fantasy?
dcf007 No.5457768
I had that problem with my mother. I never had a father since he abandoned me at birth. My mom is an alcoholic who never ever taught me anything. About human relationships, about my body, about normal fucking life. I didn't know it was normal to just order pizzas and watch movies in family until I was 14. I never had that before. Now I am useless in relationships, I can't be with someone for too long and I don't know what a woman should be like. I really want children though and i am becoming a better person on my own. Learning dignity and hardworking. I now maintain the whole house.
b7b6e6 No.5457790
Here's my story.
First, background information. 50% jewish, dad was full blooded. My dad's dad died when he was 5. He grew up going to jail a lot, even got sent there once by his own mother. Went to tons of camps and army shit. He grew up to be a computer guy, married a christian woman even though his mother was pissed and wanted him to stay full-blooded.
When he married her, he converted to christianity, but I'm honestly believing what they say about jewish bloodlines. The guy was fucking crazy. Didn't know how to handle his anger at all, threatened to hit mom but never did. One time I begged him for mercy and he shoved me to the ground, said the only man I should EVER grovel to is god.
Now, my childhood obviously wasn't the most fun, but I respect this man with all my heart. Every lesson he taught me was merciless. He spent little time with me, but he also didn't let me be a weakling. Gave me a computer at like 7 or so, demanded I go out and see the world with him. Took me to temple, took me to church, he wanted me to decide what god meant. I'm a deist now. Personally I think god's abandoned us.
Any time I fucked up, he'd scream at me. Beat me for getting lost in the walmart, and almost kicked this other dude's ass for daring to ask him to calm down. Unfortunately, because of his mannerisms, I didn't like being around him eventually and receded into my room to play vidya instead.
I learned about sex, transgenderism, all this weird shit when I was around 12 thanks to the internet access and MMOs. To me, as a child, the concept of being transgender didn't really bother me. It didn't even seem weird. I accepted pretty much all the homoshit at face value and never questioned if it was viable, or even moral. But mental illness = a lack of empathy or conscience in the first place.
My father didn't teach me many things besides being strong, computer stuff, and how to get away with crime. The guy was a master at stealing shit, always shaved off as much money as possible- then he'd manically spend it all. Passed his mental illnesses onto me but thankfully not following in his footsteps. I think the autism balances out the anger management somehow. I never get mad.
So he killed himself eventually, guess the anger and psycho shit got to him finally. Mom was a different breed, she's liberal and doesn't like racism, etc etc, bluepilled essentially. But with access to the internet, I got to learn more than my school taught me. I look back now and realize how indoctrinatey that bullshit place is. Left as soon as I could because I felt like I wasn't learning anything. I knew all the shit they spat from googling it myself. Decided to get a GED and now I'm heading to a series of colleges using my dad's small fortune to coast freely by.
I think things turned out well, all shit considered, and though I might be missing a few details I managed to recover a lot. I'm not 100% functional and never will be thanks to aforementioned chemical imbalances, but I understand what went wrong and how to hold myself together long enough. I think I got lucky that I wasn't exactly coddled and had access to new information and the opportunity to fail. I don't know what the right answer is in terms of fatherhood and how to raise a child as I'd never wish this life on any kid. I'm too fucked up to pass on those genes IMO.
I think the best thing, the thing that I'm thankful for the most, is that lesson to never bow to anyone but god. I can't stand pussies, I can't stand people who don't know how to stick up for themselves, but there's also more to that. An idiot with the brawn and anger can only do so much before someone more cunning comes along, and the cunning can only do so much until he's caught. There needs to be a balance of skills. I'm no expert, but if I HAD to raise a child, I'd make them read things like Art of War and Orwell, then explain to them where others have failed to narrow their chances of making mistakes.
I'd teach them to look at a man's achievements, not his bullshit. I'd tell him to give where he can, but only when he's standing above everyone else. I'd tell him god's in your heart, not at your church, and hope that he has a better moral compass than myself. Stand strong, move like water, usual shit, but most importantly to always look at every angle of a situation. Tunnel vision, lack of awareness, that's the worst possible thing someone can do. People get indoctrinated, they can't think for themselves, then they follow the leader right into the fire instead of feeling the heat on their skin and thinking for a moment. A man nowadays, I truly believe he needs to go solo and prepare his offspring to deal with the worst the world has to offer.
But, this might just be an example of what not to do. I'm successful, but unhappy. Crazy too in the medical sense. Thought you'd enjoy the read though, /pol/
d79a0d No.5457829
e8e58f No.5457943
>>5457790
>Personally I think god's abandoned us.
This is what orthodox jews believe. Look it up and don't forget to gas yourself fucking mischling
d79a0d No.5458024
>>5457943
people conception of what is a "god" is completely fucked up to begin with, don't blame him too much
5002f7 No.5459666
Going to copy/paste a post someone else made a while back. This is pretty defeatist. It's from a depression board I no longer go to.
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I don't feel like I am living.
Everything seems so exhausting to me. All I can manage to do is passively consume. I tried to study but I couldn't keep my attention up for more than a few minutes. I even asked myself "what prevents me from studying?" and tried to collect all my willpower but it's physically painful to me. My head starts hurting, I feel tired and a physical sensation that is like an itch all over my body that is getting stronger.
So all I do is sit and browse imageboards. I am not even fully in them. I just lurk and shitpost now and then. I do not participate in any generals because I don't play games and don't watch any shows. I actually rarely have to contribute anything to threads. Yet even though there is rarely anything that interests me I continue lurking. I am like this for 8 years now and in these 8 years I have not changed at all. It's quite shocking thinking about it. So many people my age and younger are successful and have achieved something and I am still a blank slate.
I feel so alone in this world. No one can know how I feel. Maybe everyone feels like this but others manage to "man up". Maybe I should just endure the pain and get used to it? Whenever I talked about my feelings elsewhere people insulted me. They called me lazy, a whiner that shifts the blame to anyone but himself, a loser that didn't use the opportunities life gave him and that deserves the misery he is living in. I don't know if there people are right or not. Society judges people by what they see. Even if I somehow manage to get out of this hole and achieve something I will pale in comparison to the motivated people that didn't waste years of their life. People that are more intelligent and more hard working than me. I am superfluous. There is nothing good I can do better than anyone else of the billion people on earth.
Other people just seem like superhuman to me. They know exactly what to do. They have goals. Even if they too complain about procrastinating they still manage to get things done. When I see just what some people achieve in the news I don't even feel like I am of the same species. And not just the news just regular people. People that manage to graduate from college with good grades while working and living by themselves. People that have a job and live alone and drive a car. People that are independent. People that have skills. I had the naive hope that this would all come to me eventually but it never did. I am still the same I was years ago. Adults still feel as alien to me.
I think I've read all useful advice there is. Now it's up to me. But if I haven't done anything in all these years why should I now? I don't even trust myself to do anything anymore.
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(in response to the above post)
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Let me guess, anon:
>parents were late 30s/early 40s when they got you
>you're a single child or have a much older sibling you can't relate to
>your father was always working or otherwise absent and your mother was ridiculously overprotective
>you never showed initiative as a child, but that was just fine with your parents, who loved to keep you where they could supervise you
>you always got exactly what you wanted for Christmas/birthdays
>you grew up and perhaps still live in some kind of suburb/subdivision where you're maximally sheltered from any kind of real-life experience
Your story is that of the 21st century digital boy. I'm one myself. I have no idea how to break out of it.
In previous generations, guys like us were probably either made by or killed in war. Now we're just here, existing, not knowing why, not knowing what to do, too lazy to live, too scared to die, too incompetent to do anything else.
0bda67 No.5460005
>>5455091
My dad was pretty much exactly the same way. Right down to the loveless marriage that he was too afraid to break until he got caught cheating, the completely cucked attitude about race, and the father who fought in the war. If anything, he's shown me what not to be. But I agree with you about not turning your back on family.
b7b6e6 No.5460729
>>5459666
If you mean me, not exactly but the result was the same. They had me in early 30s, have a sister who's far worse off, tumblrista kind of chick who's desperately empathetic.
Always working, mother ridiculously overprotective true.
I showed initiative for things I gave a fuck about, but I never did anything for school. I procrastinated way too much though.
Exactly what I wanted, yep, not that I'd ask for much. Objects don't really make me happy.
Suburb/subdivision yeah.
Most of what you list is either true or half-true, but I think I got lucky by being mentally ill. I'm talking autism, bipolar, weak empathetic response, gifted programs, med after med after med until I couldn't speak or remember anything that happened to me.
I don't think it's hopeless though. I don't care about life enough to try, and I don't fear death, and I've cultivated a number of skills. It's a hole you have to dig yourself out of because you have nothing better to do.
In a way, I guess because of my dad's fortune I can do whatever the hell I want. So I'm going to go for the maximum education possible and just do something, get written down somewhere, maybe not seem like such a waste.
If I fail? Not like anyone expected anything different.
Polite sage for ebin blogpost.
4f3b2d No.5461944
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>this whole thread
Goddamn. Is it just response bias, or does everyone on this board come from a dysfunctional family?
fb3214 No.5462270
>>5459666
Believe me or not, I wrote that.
Still moping around though,
b7b6e6 No.5462364
>>5461944
I think the failures of the new age of parents speaks to the validity of wanting to return to more traditional things. I've personally been a traditional type of guy regardless of influence, but that's my small hypothesis.
Modern love and tolerance does not breed strong people. Even the weak can recognize their own faults if they care enough.
13dcbe No.5465031
>>5461944
High IQ and insight combined with exposure to dysfunction and degeneracy seems to generate the fiercest opposition to it.
4105e8 No.5465278
>WW2 German army lover
>military discipline
>serious-hard working to a fault in a tractor/crane/tools business
>icon of a good father/son/brother/employer
>years after
>fired
>he was secretly turning some of the sales profit into his own account
>flees to another state, abandoning me and my mother, never paid alimony
>family protects and hides him
>old boss, who loved him like a son, ask the police to stop searching for him.
>as I know, he is living in the beach, with his own business, and is married to another woman.
My world has fallen apart, but life's a harsh mistress, and karma punched him to a pulp years after.
13dcbe No.5465527
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>>5465244
For the image? Or my opinion?
I saved the pic either here or on /christian/, so I can't help you too much. I think it might be derived from Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's writings.
My opinion is just from observing trends here on /pol/, in my own life, and on other collectives of dissociated young men.
7e360a No.5470069
>>5296409
Sir, this thread has touched me immensely. This also got me to wonder how in the world would we go about organizing meeting each other in real life. Is there a board on 8chan for folks to organize meetups through or something?
033c60 No.5478929
>>5470069
> Is there a board on 8chan for folks to organize meetups through or something?
>>>/meadhall/
db2150 No.5483207
Any of you guys interested in meeting in person at a local restaurant, quiet pub, or church where we can touch base on stuff?
9b5653 No.5483232
>>5483207
This is not the place, Anon.
706f04 No.5483627
I think it might honestly be a good thing for some anons here to participate in one of these big brothers things and give some white children from single mom "families" at least an idea of what being a man is. No need to redpill kids on merchants and shit, just teach them how to be a man.
I was raised by my mother and grandmother, and I have a sister. I was around women all my life. I had no father figure as all males in the family were either dead or lived far away. Not only that, but my mother would tell me that she hated men and that we were all pigs, shit like that. Male sexual urges were especially vilified. Of course, when I'd point out the obvious, she'd say "of course not you", but that made it worse because then I felt I was special and that rewarded my inability to be a man.
On top of that, my mom had me at 44, so I developed Asperger syndrome (or ASD as they call it now). You can imagine what a mess I was, and still am on some levels. For the longest time, not only had I no idea how to be a man but I was also intensely ashamed of being one. I'm honestly surprised I didn't turn out tranny.
When I turned 21 I decided to try and figure out how to be a man. I took role models from TV and tried to emulate them in real life. It was like play acting, and I found the disconnect useful to manage my crippling and numerous anxieties. I started reading a lot on self-reliance, I learned masculine activities like fishing or fighting, skills that boosted my self-confidence. I had a few failed relationships and got over my disgust of sexuality and instead learned to take control of it, and gradually figured out what was expected of me by women as a man. I hung with my ex's father, who was really good at building stuff and learned to work with my hands a bit. I never really managed to function 100% normally, but I did learn to function to a degree, and I did manage to learn and put into practice some aspects of what it is to be a man.
The greatest crime in all of this is that I was conceived by artificial insemination. Single women can go in a sperm bank, pay, get fertilized and have a child, no matter their relationship status or age. I had no chance to turn out a normal man because I was not only willfully put into a fundamentally broken family unit, but they allowed my mother to conceive at 44 even though everyone knows about the risks. I think that should be illegal. Single would-be mothers should not be allowed to use sperm banks or adopt. Neither should same-sex couples or women who are past 40.
It's my life they were playing with, not hers. I started on Lunatic+ difficulty just because a selfish woman had a selfish desire and the means to pay for it. When libs tell me "her body her choice" in regards to abortion, I am thoroughly disgusted because I paid my dues for my mother's choice in the usage of her body and I should not have had to. It was completely avoidable. Women are not gods and should not be able to create or dispose of life so easily.
Single mothers are pure cancer. I urge every anon with the possibility and the will to take a white kid from these "families" under their wing to do so. I know it would have been much easier for me if I had had an older male figure that was reliably around at least once a week. It's not enough to focus on your own future kids. Single motherhood is more and more readily accepted and a lot of young males will grow up in these dysfunctional "families". A lot of our future men will not be men at all. If you don't have kids of your own, then use a bit of your time and try to salvage something out of this fucking mess.
13dcbe No.5484725
>>5483627
That's brutal man.
Everything is just so fucked. Women and queers can get children as fashion accessories while men are seldom even considered to adopt children.
When or if I get a steady job I'd like to work with people that get fucked over like that, if I can find a way.
4b9ecc No.5485097
4b9ecc No.5485116
>>5483627
yes! amazing idea
i've been thinking we should set up a series of farms in europe for building brotherhood / fraternity
we would have camps where alpha bros can come and train mentally and physically. younger bros would have a chance to learn from them and be positively influenced
4c0ba0 No.5497467
>>5457790
>My dad's dad died when he was 5.
Did he die in the shoah being gassed by evil aryan monsters over 9000 times?
7a0661 No.5498030
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Forgive the source material. This song makes me a little misty-eyed in jealousy. Song was written by a father to his daughter, who is singing it. I never had a good relationship with my folks, but grew up idealizing the concept of family solidarity.
Now I'm old enough to be the dad in the equation, but can't for health reasons, leaving me doubly spurned.
Still, it's nice to see this kind of heartfelt sentiment.
bbe3f7 No.5498569
So, anyone become a big brother to a fatherless kid here?
7a0661 No.5498748
>>5498569
Not in any literal sense, but I often take a sort of unofficial mentor role to younger people.
My brother's girlfriend is a weeb and mostly a normie, but she's super sweet and merely naive, not stupid. I think she looks up to me because she has an awful relationship with an emotionally abusive father, and I'm kind of dadly in demeanor and appearance. I turned her on to Trump, and in doing so she redpilled herself on the utter deceit that is mainstream media. We've also covered things like privilege, the anti-white narrative in media, and race relations in general. She soaks it up like a sponge.
She calls me sempai.
98822f No.5498868
>>5296409
Young father here, 20 years old, have a 6 month old daughter. Living with girlfriend and daughter, plan to make that fiance and daughter after I get my degree or get accepted to med school, whenever the future becomes a little more financially certain.
Grew up with a hard working dad who worked 60+ hours/week, worked out 5 days a week, and helped my mother cart my 3 siblings and I to all of our activities. He was kind of a push over when it came to my mom but I got the feeling that he didn't have time to worry about drama and had to concentrate on work so he just said whatever he had to to avoid conflict with my mom so he could get back to work. As a result I turned out to be a pretty passive person had a few friends, now I have about 2 that I actually spend any time with maybe once every other month.
My father was a good man and a strong man but I told myself I would never work in a cubicle like him.
I want 5 children, this first one just came a little early. When things get hard with school with a couple of rough tests or deadlines stacked on top of one another it feels nice to think that I have a beautiful woman and a beautiful baby girl waiting for me at home. I love the time I spend with my daughter and I happily babble with her. She's asleep when I get home half of the time but I always get to give her a kiss good night. Fatherhood feels great, everyday I feel like I'm where I need to be doing what I need to do. I just wish I was a husband as well as a father but that will come when I can support my little family.
7a0661 No.5499194
>>5498748
Actually, wait. She did start by calling me onii-chan. She cut it out when we realized it was weird, her dating my brother. So yeah. I guess I have been a stand-in older brother.
308818 No.5499239
If there is something I really don't want to talk, it's my father. A mask bloated by it's own ego. He's the master of not being what you say you are. Everything good he projects through words always ends up being pissed and spat on by his actions. How can someone be so blissfully unaware of themselves? I don't know. He disgusts me to my very core with every word he says. No wonder I was such a faggot. I hate him, it's genuine hatred and it's the only emotion I really have. Our family is horribly awkward towards each-other, unlike everyone else. I fear that I will never be able to form a bond with another person. Thanks for nothing you worthless maggot.
Fatherhood is my biggest life-goal. I'll do everything I can to be a good father… if I ever find a decent woman, that is. Since I'm Aryan and my bloodline has always been good, I look up to the continuation and expansion of it.
I never had anyone to look up to. I've always wanted a brother so that I could be the big brother he always looked up to. Who do I look up to now? Nobody. There's no decent person I could.
All I want from life is a person to hold, but judging by my experiences with other people, it doesn't seem possible. I want to love and be loved.
e600dd No.5499297
>>5296471
>I ended up being a massive pussy until I was about 16
lol Who gives a fuck about 16? What, you're mortgaging off a house? Are you paying taxes for the business you created?
Yeah, I'm glad you grew a pair but seriously, if you're under 25 and whining about being a pussy, you're immature, uneducated, unwise and ignorant.
In other words, you're young as fuck.