/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

These are two sources I like:

Сантии Веды Перуна (Perun's vedas)

Nicolai Levashov - Russian History Viewed through Distorted Mirrors

http://www.nikolay-levashov.ru/English/books-eng.html

>>5342052

The Aryan race seems as a shining beacon to the world. A conduit of innovation and inspiration to the physical world from the other side.

The Aryan race has created or discovered almost all of the breakthroughs in the understanding of our world and ourselves, whether through science or philosophy.

Ironically, even their greatest existential threats were in part created by them, it was a part Jew part Aryan that wrote down Marxism. It was their ability to create safe, secure, and prosperous lives that led their offspring to possibly become decadent and lazy.

Wherever the Aryan race has wandered, the other races ALWAYS inevitably become drawn to the societies and culture the Aryans created. Drawn like fireflies to a light.

The Aryans were seemingly able to create wondrous, prosperous, lucid kingdoms on earth almost wherever they settled. The unfortunate thing was, whenever the other races became drawn to their creations, they always seemed to become lesser and overwhelmed, and always ended up pulling back these newcomers drawn to their light.

"White flight" is not a new concept at all. Aryans have been on the run since the start.

What we need is a re awakening of studies into our archaeological origins and to study in depth into our current DNA, whether through blood, genetics, neurology, biology, or chemistry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe

>>5342052

Genetics.

Also, the discovery of Spirituality and how it exists along the Material World.

The DNA of God is within us, that's the missing link in the line of evolution, blacks and darkies like that are lower orders of humanity. We were at one time very close to the gods as well, not so much anymore, we've become estranged and materialistic.

>>5342315

>discovery of Spirituality and how it exists along the Material World

Oh boy, I guess there goes the thread.

>>5342288

And just to clarify, obviously the Ahnenerbe had a Germanic outlook being founded on German soil, but a reminder that Slavs are Aryan as well. The eastern Aryan cousin to the western Aryans.

>>5342315

>>5342377

Read up of the Gnostic texts, if the thread becomes boring and this reality is too solid and your spirit is hungering.

>>5342391

>Read up of the Gnostic texts

No thank you, I get more out of Grimm's fairytales.

>>5342052

we got the secrets at the temple of Solomon

you can thank the Knights Templars for stealing the secrets from the Jews

>>5342367

Mate, your argument is flawed because if it were God within whites, how do explain Adam and Eve? They would have been a mahogany kind of colour based on the approximate location of the garden of Eden

>>5342414

Agreed. Escapist versions of "spirituality" are as damaging as rigid materialism.

>>5342052

>>5342431

Also, out mythology is the only one worldwide that focuses on the male deity over the female deity, which means we focus on individualism as opposed to the collective (the female being the person who runs the family, or collective)

Yes, even Islam is a goddess female based religion which is why they gravitate to group think.

>>5342444

>race is skin colour

Besides where do you actually think Eden was?

>>5342052

it's probably a combination of natural selection and geographic location. yurop is uniquely suited to give rise to great civilizations

>>5342414

You're absolutely right, the biggest step is going out and seeing what is you're capable of and actually making things happen. There needs to be a balance of a healthy body and mind.

But I did offer a solution as well, I said we could use new scientists to study our genetics.

The idea of physically weak intellectuals is a modern concept, in the past most philosophers and scientists were actually out trekking in the world and actively engaging in it, not holed up in a dark lab. One can be /fit/ and /pol/, if anything that's the ideal.

>>5342462

I mean, no one can know for certain, but based off what you can get from the bible, you can say it was ROUGHLY around Ethiopia area

Nevermind guys, christcucks are already trying to destroy the thread with their shitskin religion.

>>5342531

It seems more like you're the one trying to do that

>>5342052

A perfect mix of Cro Magnum, Human and Neanderthal.

I would say IQ and genetics. If you look at Europe, it really kind of sucks. Winters are harsh, and there's not an abundance of resources, therefore, you have the higher IQ people being more successful and have more children.

Also, Europeans don't have a culture of conformity that East Asians do. East Asians are perfectly capable of building good societies, but they're not as accepting of new ideas as the West is (which can be a bad thing, i.e. Cultural Marxism)

I don't really know how to explain the difference in Individuality vs. Conformity, as the IQ difference between Whites and Asians isn't as large as say an African and a White. Maybe it's philosophical? Maybe it's because Asian countries are small with massive populations. For example, Japan is the size of California, but with only 20% usable land. Whereas Europe, while still fairly small, isn't as populous.

>>5342575

*Magnon

>>5342377

Spirituality refers to Morality, Values, Virtues, Appreciation of the Beautiful, Hunger for Knowledge, Caring for the Future and for your Descendants, Aptitude to Innovation and Creation, Seeking Emotional Satisfaction (Love, for instance) instead of Material (That shinning Ferrari).

Now, tell me how do you not value these, or how don't you see the crisis our civilisation is passing trough as a consequence of the abandonment of these.

>>5342391

>Gnostic

Kill yourself.

>le white race face

Stop it, you devalue European diversity and accomplishment by boiling us down to the abstract concept of 'white'. Sure, we share that one feature, but it's like referring to us as 'high nasal bridges' or 'blue eyes' - senseless generalising which detracts from the true depth of history and heritage.

On that same note, please stop using 'cold climates made us think to survive innit' as a one-stop explanation for all European accomplishment throughout history, a peoples don't become and maintain greatness because of a freak act of evolution. You're taking the humanity out of the process.

>>5342596

Forgot to add this, but also people would think that being a hunter would imply that you've got a high IQ. Well, actually, that's not true.

I can't remember the name of the series but there's a set of based Norwegian documentaries that cover controversial topics. There's one on race and IQ. Sasha Baron Cohen actually has a brother who's an evolutionary biologists and probably does believe that IQ and race are highly correlated. But, I don't think he goes that far in the film.

>>5342587

Yeah, well the main problem with studying our past history through archaeology and legends is that those can be interpreted easily, or distorted from their original form.

That's why I think we need a revival of the Ahnenerbe with our current advancements in genetics. Our DNA has all of our ancestors' (that procreated) history built in, we just need to understand how to read it.

>>5342666

Well, okay. Thanks for the criticism. But why don't you contribute some helpful ideas of your own rather than just trying to beat up on other people who have attempted to contribute something?

>>5342666

The cold climate and ice age were likely a big part of it, but success tends to lead to decadence and laziness, in truth the struggle should never end. A never ending struggle against ourselves, our environment, and our neighbors. That is what progress truly is, struggle.

>>5342691

>Yeah, well the main problem with studying our past history through archaeology and legends is that those can be interpreted easily, or distorted from their original form.

Indeed, this is something I'm extremely suspicious about. So much can be lost in translation. The Eddas, for example, were written down in the 13th century by a Christian monk. Who knows how much might have been lost or reinterpreted in between the time the myths were developed and when they were written down.

>>5342666

And by insisting on European alone, you are discounting all the areas that were just as Indo-European.

All the -istans were once primarily made up of IE peoples. They were just as white. The only difference is eventually they lost to non-whites in battle. In Europe the only people you could lose to are other whites.

We should make those areas great again as well by removing kebab, and Islam.

>>5342844

I see a large amount of Mexicans or mix-raced here. non-white DNA and degeneracy are more strongly interlocked.

>>5342844

*tips sombrero*

>>5342414

Why are you posting gaybait?

>>5342844

But now that I see this … nvm

Is this in latin america? what a fucked up continent that is

>>5342931

>NYC Pride

>South America

>>5342753

However lost and muddy our past becomes, we should remember that we are what remains of them. To understand ourselves is to better understand them. The best way to do that is through struggle. We must look to ourselves.

>>5342052

By being complete fucking dicks to each other for several thousand years.

Like, seriously. That's why.

Germany isn't even a great country, my country kicked the shit out of them in two world wars, so I'm really not buying the whole "haha we're all friends now but Germany's the best :)" act.

If Nazism ever becomes a thing again, we should carpet bomb those Teutonic city sackers back to the stone age. The Swiss and Austrians do the same thing minus the tendency for autistic, suicidal warmongering.

>>5342587

Older can be better, because it could be before Marxist thought became entrenched.

There's also March of the Titans.

>>5342691

>Yeah, well the main problem with studying our past history through archaeology and legends is that those can be interpreted easily, or distorted from their original form.

Certainly true, but it would be bad to ignore it. I think they need to be constantly on the lookout for anything which might challenge the accepted, rather than it taking all the old professors to die before anything new can be mentioned.

>That's why I think we need a revival of the Ahnenerbe with our current advancements in genetics. Our DNA has all of our ancestors' (that procreated) history built in, we just need to understand how to read it.

Are you talking about an Animus?

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Animus

If possible, I agree it would be ideal. You'd only see the winning side/surviving losers generally.

>>5342957

When Nazism returns one of the first things they'll do is acquire nuclear weapons, so you won't be able to, kike :^)

>>5342288

meds have always been superior to nords IMO, compare ancient greece and the roman empire to snow nigger viking degenerates

>>5342697

i think the garden of eden was somewhere in iraq

which makes you wonder why the jews hate iraq so much and have been fucking with iraq for so long, getting bush to invade etc

>>5343028

>>5343007

>>5342844

Filtered and hidden. Easy done. I recommend everyone else do the same if they haven't already.

Quick Question for everyone here!

What is really matter? Be white (or aryan if you like) outside or inside?

If you genetically white but believe in left bullshit, deny white values, culture, your heritage, tradition and nation than are you still could be considered as superior?

Meanwhile a non-white who wholeheartedly believe in the white values, traditions and culture and condemns his/her race and it's barbaric traits could be considered as one of us?

And what about the mixed people?

>>5342957

>Nazism

How are you even here? You've just followed the standard belief that they wanted to conquer the planet. It was a Nationalist party. They only cared about themselves.

You're right about the constant warfare part. But today fighting each other is a sure bet to our own genocide.

>>5342957

In both world wars Germany inflicted way more casualties on their enemies then were inflicted on them, despite being outnumbered.

Their autistic suicidal warmongering is what made them so good at battles and tactics, maybe not so much at war and strategy.

The ancient German tribes were constantly warring each other throughout history, it was that struggle that gave them an edge, they just fucked up by blowing their united load in one burst instead of slowly over time.

It was stupid as fuck for them to get into a situation where they were outnumbered, but the Germans did not get the shit kicked out of them. A pack of dogs working together can take down a lion.

>>5342697

>around 10000BC

There are flutes and statues found in German caves older than that.

Looks like the Aryan is older than the christ-god's creation. Dank.

>>5343004

>Said Korea

>Said Iran

Tip top kek, Nazicuck. Your escapism is hilarious. I wish trench warfare was still a thing so I could get the authentic experience of my forefathers and shred smelly barbarians with a shotgun so hard they get butthurt and try to make it a war crime like in WW1.

This is why Germans are subhuman, every other human being learns, "Touch fire, get burnt, don't touch fire." But germans can't learn "Start war, get fucked, stop starting wars". Germany's stay in the EU and the Roman Empire proved that the only way for teutonic scum to be useful is if they're kept on a short leash by actual civilized nations.

Here, faggot. You can have the "I'm the only nation in history to get my ass torn open by Lithuana" sticker.

>>5343007

The meds were superior in their organizing skills, they could group up and form disciplined and coordinated attacks that became far stronger when united.

The fasces is a good example of the meds, weak individual branches stuck together to make a strong weapon.

The nords have always been superior as individuals, they were taller, longer limbed, stronger, and tended more towards reclusion, dissent, and free thinking. When these strong individuals came together, it tended to clip their wings and greater potential, weakening them.

1 on 1 Nords beat Meds hands down.

Group of organized meds vs nords the meds will likely win.

>>5343065

>described r/K selection.

>>5342642

>Not understanding that a Ferrari is meant to be as much a work of aesthetic art, as it is just a car.

>Also why it's reliability isn't the greatest.

>>5343053

Mesopotamia is Iraq. Also, there's 2 rivers there today, but by that time, when the Ice Melted, there were 4.

That whole region was Eden - from Iraq to the Arab Peninsula.

>>5343004

>When Nazism returns one of the first things they'll do is acquire nuclear weapons, so you won't be able to, kike :^)

Tungsten drills with nuclear warhead that'll lodge into the Yellowstone magma chamber. That's how I'd do it if I wanted some leverage at least.

>>5342969

Yeah the animus is a good world example of what I had in mind.

The most important thing to remember though, is that it only works on people who had children who survived.

So if you want to pass on (y)our story, don't just write a book, make babies. Better yet, do both.

>>5343078

>More casualties means this is the better nation

No. Opposite. Claiming "Warrior's honour/Skill" after you lost the battle is being just as autistic as weaboo katanaposters. Winning is what matters, not killing. Germany didn't win.

Suicidal warmongering shouldn't at any point be celebrates as the hallmark of greatness of a civilized european nation, seeing as it is a tactic employed by african and arabian warlords, the same ones you supposedly look down on.

"I killed as many people as I could before being shot" isn't a country-building attitude, it's a country destroying attitude.

The Majority of people here seem like LARPers with escapist teutonic warrior fantasies.

Conquest, not killing. Building, not breaking. Rome didn't become rome by killing off all of its subjects. (Which backfired when they conquered Germany, ha ha. But the point still stands.)

>>5343169

>Current year

>Still using the nord/med dialectic when we know there are at least 4-5 major groups in European history

>Celts/Gauls, Neo-Farmers, Germanics(stocky version), Nords(taller/thinner), Italics, Greeks, Various Slavs etc

>>5342288

So whites were too successful for their own good?

Something to mention at a job interview, I suppose.

>>5343053

>>5342697

The garden of eden was not a physical place, but a mental state.

Only the Jewed church wants you to think its a literal place on the map.

>>5343285

No. Archeological discoveries tell us: This place was called Eden. This is a fact.

>>5343285

Where did the "Garden of Eden" myth originate? I know that Jews adopted lots of myths into their ideology that didn't originate with them, so it wouldn't be surprising to me if this one isn't theirs either. Are there earlier versions of the Eden myth that originated with other peoples?

>>5343244

>Quoting me on something I never said.

I never said it made them the better nation, I said it made them the better warriors, I even said it was stupid for them to get into a war where they were outnumbered.

And fuck off with this division shit anyway, if you want to create a successful society, you need different classes to be able to get a job done.

A warrior class, a priest/teacher class, an artisan class, etc.

Rome never conquered Germany, they never got past the Rhine. The Germans and Nords sacked Rome multiple times though, unfortunately.

The great nation builders lost their nation when they used German warriors as mercenaries and neglected their own warrior class.

If they would have come together though, and united their warrior and nation building skills, that's a different fucking story

>>5343316

The jewed church just throws that shit out there to keep the goyim baited so you don't even ACTUALLY READ THE STORY IN THE BIBLE and discover what is right in front of your face.

The garden of eden was humans prior to discovering the nature of duality, or the knowledge of good and evil.

Its not a paradise of the physical world, but one where humans are one with the creation.

threads just getting ruined by trolls

sorry this >>5343363 was meant for >>5343297

>>5343363

No. Again, it was an extreme fertile region in the Middle East, that dried up and became a legend.

>>5343316

Yes the garden of Eden Idea shows up in creation myths around the world including India, China, Native Americans, and south Americans, Myans ect.

Sometime almost word for word.

The truth of the matter is we have this knowledge inside us, and it shows outwardly from within in cultures around the world.

The Jews took these stories from older Egyptians stories, and they got it from older Sumerian stories.

Doesn't make it any less true, so INB4

>muh kike on a stick

>>5343396

Jewish lies. The truth is right in the book.

The garden of Eden is not knowing the difference between good and evil, and seeing the world AS IT IS and not as you want it to be.

>>5343254

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_(biology)

You're talking about sub types.

There are clearly still main types that have more broad inclusions, like Italics and Greeks into Meds.

Rome, it all comes down to culture, whites were the first to collectively stake their own lives for the greater good, they used their bodies to project their minds and ideas rather than the other races.

I don't think whites are inherently great, simply put we can look at Europe right now and how they're suffering poorly from being deluded into these nonsensical ideas, but surely the culture they created is above all others.

>>5342444

> How do you explain made up fables that have obviously been disproven?

>I believe in magic but need a rational explanation for a myth that never happened.

Wew lad

>>5343562

>made up fables

Reddit-tier

Patriarchy and martial values basically, which were passed on to European peoples who were large in stature. The original Aryans were actually short Mongolian-type peoples

Funny shit when you think about it, lads.

>>5343584

>muh everything that doesn't agree with me is from reddit

Fucking christcucks really need to stop with that online missionary outreach shit.

>WHAT MADE WHITES SO GREAT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

DISCIPLINE

>>5343956

>DISCIPLINE

Well, no shit. Almost cultures have traditions of discipline, but we're not the same as. say, Asians for example. We're inquiring into the essential and distinct character of white Indo-European populations. So be more specific.

>>5343994

Almost all cultures*

>>5343779

Thanks for the sources, I've always believed that the closest thing we have to a truly Aryan society and religion is in the Vedas.

Mainly their division of peoples into different classes.

Something that jews have clearly tried to attack and destroy throughout history, with their unnatural views of equality, forced through Marxism in recent times.

1. Brahmin: the seers, the reflective ones, the priests.

a. The intellectual and spiritual leaders.

b. In our society, they would correspond to the philosophers, religious leaders, and teachers.

2. Kshatriyas–(pronounced something like "kshot ree yahs") the born administrators (formerly nobles, rajahs, and warriors).

a. The protectors of society.

b. In our society, the politicians, police, and the military.

3. Vaisyas: (pronounced something like "vy sy us") the producers, the craftsmen, artisans, farmers.

a. The skillful producers of material things.

b. In our society, the merchants.

4. Shudras–(pronounced something like "shoo drrahs") the unskilled laborers or laboring class.

a. The followers or the maintenance people.

b. The so-called menial workers or hard laborers.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/caste.html

Another interesting thing is that the Mahabharata describes the different classes in colors.

Brahmins Varna was white, Kshtriyas was red, Vaishyas was yellow, and the Shudras' black

>>5343065

Mixed (Mestizo) here. I believe the people of early Western civilizations would definitely have differences in their mental capabilities when compared to almost all others around their time, especially when you compare how often they advanced in politic, scientific, philosophic, etc. fields.

There definitely seem to be two very drastic mindsets when it comes to population & societal preservation. The r/K selection methods come to mind. Indo-Europeans were always taking great effort to make sure their descendants were always at least on par with them intellectually and physically when it came to reproduction whereas a lot of other societies were more preoccupied with making sure their numbers stayed high due to decease, harsh labor, common wars, etc.

The r-type societies are more concerned with short term population production due to more grueling environment they with (mostly just fighting to live next to a rival r-type society).

The K-type seems to have advanced their society far enough that they can survive with a much smaller amount of offspring due to them choosing quality > quantity. You can see them temporarily change to r-type selection when they've needed it due to drastic changes in environment that have drastically changed the population, though (black plague era, WWI, & WWII come to mind).

I believe that Westerners thought they could improve the lives of third-worlders by improving the quality of lives for them. By this I mean things live bringing Western medicine to Africa and teaching them how to increase their crops to be able to sustain themselves.

What they didn't account/forgot to do is to teach them to control their population while at the same time educating the next generation on the importance of producing intelligent and self-sufficient offspring.

I believe this has cause a problem that is biting the West in its ass today. It's why I believe that shitskins are so easily to accept the "fuck YT, let's take over the West" mentality that is rampant in Europe and is starting to show up in NA. It's just r-type societies trying to take over the west by infiltrating and outbreeding them due to their shallow mindedness. Can't really blame the scorpion for stinging the frog, it's just in its nature.

They don't care about the fact that if you kill the West every good thing that has ever been given to them (by the West) will be gone and everything will stagnate.

They're preoccupied with the weak state of morality and self-preservation the West is facing and are just trying to conquer what they see as a weakened enemy. I think this is just in their common interest as r-types.

I believe this is why societies always seem to have struggles and die from within. What I mean is they allows others to come into their societies out of good will. They half-assedly integrate them without actually making an effort to establish them as a full fledged productive member of the society. They then are surprised generations later when the small minority turns into a force that can speak for itself and tries to take the nation/empire into its favor due to a difference in mentalities due to never being fully accepting of the host because even though they walk and work among them, they still believe themselves as outsiders.

I can't speak for Europe but I believe the US has 3 major decisions to make in order to survive:

1.) Segregate the entire country and then split it off into multiple states. i.e. Whites in a certain area of the nation, blacks in another, spics in another, etc.

2.)Send every person back to where their ancestral roots are from. i.e. blacks to Africa, Asians to Asia, send spics south. However keep in mind this will open a loophole of sending whites back to Europe and cause a problem for anyone that is, very noticeably, mixed-race because everyone will try to argue on where to send them and if a group will even accept them due to being mutts.

3.) Segregate everyone similar to how it was back to pre-civil rights movement and create a societal mindset that tries to preserve cultural heritage for all races that live within while at the same time promoting unfrivolous patriotism. The main difference to pre-civil rights is that you don't just acknowledge white and black (colored); you must also acknowledge all other races that are also present and establish new races for the mutts (i.e. acknowledging mestizos and mullatos as their own race instead of saying "latino/hispanic/white" and "light-skinned black"). After all, if you mix a Labrador with a Poodle the offspring is neither of these two, it is a Labradoodle.

1/2

>>5344151

2/2

A strong sense of race and a desire for the preservation of it on all sides is needed if the US wants to thrive. If everyone taught their kids the importance of preserving their culture and race and the dangers of mixing and killing off their race it would be a much better place. This does not mean preaching superiority, however, just acknowledgement of self-identity and willingness to cooperate among other races without hostility in order to keep the nation alive.

Another issue that will arise after bypassing race will always be religion due to many of them preaching supremacy/masterdom over all others that do not belong to that sect of beliefs. Not too sure on how to fix this one without everyone willingly adopting something like the Ubermensch mentality or converting everyone to one single religion.

The problems that have always been present with nomads like the eternal jew and gypsies should be corrected by finding them a home and keeping them there until (if they ever) get their shit together, Madagascar comes to mind. The issue with them is that they ALWAYS see themselves as outsiders and therefore ALWAYS don't have the same mindset as the locals and they ALWAYS work for their own interests and NEVER for the society that houses them. They ALWAYS become cancerous traitors.

I'm not the smartest person so feel free to take my opinion and feedback some good criticism.

>tl;dr

convert r-types into K-types and eradicate or isolate the eternal cancerous, traitorous nomads (jews)

>>5343994

I push it one further. Pride in the herd.

Individual success is partially success of the herd. It's not for personal gains, but for the whole tribe to take use of.

It's better to have 5 farms to produce at twice the efficiency, then to lock away technology and sell it to only 2 as a whole.

Naitivity is another. Whites are so god damn naive it hurts them. there's talk about whites taking welfare and "wasting" it on hedonism. But the proportion who wastes it so small compared to the amount of people who feel shame and are humble for receiving social help.

Whites don't care about personal value. If Mr Neighbor has extra food to last your family a month extra in winter, you will accept it and have a friendly connection to Mr Neighbor. While Mr Neighbor doesn't mind giving you food, because it means you will be there next season, and overall as a tribe, you will benefit.

There are no leeches in a "white" society. Nobody to extract resources for personal gain or funnel to an outside tribe. There's this base assumption that it does simply not exist.

Ripe for exploitation.

>>5344151

>I can't speak for Europe but I believe the US has 3 major decisions to make in order to survive:

>1.) Segregate the entire country and then split it off into multiple states. i.e. Whites in a certain area of the nation, blacks in another, spics in another, etc.

>2.)Send every person back to where their ancestral roots are from. i.e. blacks to Africa, Asians to Asia, send spics south. However keep in mind this will open a loophole of sending whites back to Europe and cause a problem for anyone that is, very noticeably, mixed-race because everyone will try to argue on where to send them and if a group will even accept them due to being mutts.

>3.) Segregate everyone similar to how it was back to pre-civil rights movement and create a societal mindset that tries to preserve cultural heritage for all races that live within while at the same time promoting unfrivolous patriotism. The main difference to pre-civil rights is that you don't just acknowledge white and black (colored); you must also acknowledge all other races that are also present and establish new races for the mutts (i.e. acknowledging mestizos and mullatos as their own race instead of saying "latino/hispanic/white" and "light-skinned black"). After all, if you mix a Labrador with a Poodle the offspring is neither of these two, it is a Labradoodle.

This are good ideas.

Let me add, in 10-15 years time, we can have fusion energy and 3d printed houses and robot labor.

So if we do it right, moving 100 million people will not be an issue. There will be no jobs, so no reason to stay in one geographical location.

Most people don't come to white countries to be around whites, they come for the economic reasons.

>>5342414

>I wear suits due to my job

Oh look, a teenager finally moved onto a big boy job and thinks he's hot shit.

When you're on my level you'll be glad when you can ditch the fucking suits.

>>5343151

>From 1940 to 1945 he was professor at Albert Ludwigs University. He was arrested in 1945, and after three years detention, was released when no charges could be brought against him.

Wow, the anti-racism started immediately.

>>5343230

>Yeah the animus is a good world example of what I had in mind.

>The most important thing to remember though, is that it only works on people who had children who survived.

>So if you want to pass on (y)our story, don't just write a book, make babies. Better yet, do both.

That is the plan. As long as I don't get aloha snackbared or something else random happens, that's precisely what I intend to do.

>>5343244

>Conquest, not killing. Building, not breaking.

Yeah that went real well for South Africa and Rhodesia.

Those places have proven that attempting to civilize them only results in your own death. We don't have a good deal left to allow to die.

>>5343359

>The great nation builders lost their nation when they used German warriors as mercenaries and neglected their own warrior class.

When they extended citizenship too far. Same fucking thing we are all doing now. Every single set of white people left are facing that now.

That is, other than those already conquered like the ones in the -istans. They should be able to make those places true competitors, but they'd have to get rid of non-white blood and Islam. I paid attention when they had the first McDonald's in Kazakhstan on the news and it looked like an even mix of whites, mongols and Turks.

>>5345255

>fiat kike shit in the middle

You had one job.

>>5345091

anti-racism started in 1925'ish, with coudenhove-kalergi and his white genocide idea.

>>5343244

What should a lion do when surrounded by hungry wolves ready to devour him, who have partially succeeded by subversion and who have an army of 5 million men (5-10x German ww2 pre Soviet invasion)? Hitler decided to go for the jugular. To hit hard and fast, with all of Germany's and the SS strength, a fight to the death wherein Germany's only hope lay in a successful sucker punch.

Okay hearts of iron 3 with black ice if you want to see a fun way that reality has been quantified.

greece

/thread

>>5342288

Well put. It is literally our destiny to keep repeating the cycle.

We set up anew. We prosper. We expand and conquer. We rule. We grow complacent. Apathy and general decay take hold. With this weakened state, the dark hordes invade and overrun. We fight, but fall to their numbers. We flee. Repeat.

We were chased out of North and South America. Out of the Middle East, notably Egypt. Out of China and Asia. Even parts of Europe fell.

This is literally how it goes for us whites. The situation of today is nothing new.

>>5342052

I've been reading about this from mostly mainstream sources, and though I watch out for liberal dogma, I think the mainstream thinking has a lot to offer. Here's my take.

1. Indo-Europeans were not the genetic ancestors of Europeans. They added some genetic material, replaced the language and probably the culture.

2. Indo-European culture was probably special, since it spread so far.

a) they were, hierarchical, glorified war through poetry/song, had access to the wheel, chariot and other inventions (that they did not invent).

b) they mixed individualism with social obligation in a complex way, e.g. words for "give a gift" and "receive a gift" or "guest" and "host" are reversed in many indo-european languages, implying these terms represented a mutual obligation. The ability to form and honor obligations with non-family members is probably an important part of Indo-European success, and certainly a part of European culture.

3. European genetics is at least as important as Indo-European culture. E.g. India has Indo-European language, and their caste system is probably a remnant of Indo-European culture. But they are otherwise very different from Europeans (even Northern Indians).

4. Christianity is probably a major part of European culture. Christianity was of course a Jewish invention, but the character of Christianity is defined by its development in Europe. Christianity encourages kindness and goodness, and even though some on the right might disagree, I think this is a fundamental part of Whiteness and an important part of our success.

Sources:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0719_050719_britishgene.html

http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1405188960.html

>>5347970

>Christianity encourages kindness and goodness

here is an example of this

"But I thought you agreed that Spirit was the good - the end of the whole process? I thought you religious people were all out for spirituality? What is the point of asceticism - fasts and celibacy and all that? Didn't we agree that God is a spirit? Don't you worship Him because He is pure spirit?"

"Good heavens, no! We worship Him because He is wise and good. There's nothing specially fine about simply being a spirit. The Devil is a spirit."

(C.S. Lewis, Perelandra)

Cattle would be a large contributor. The progenitors of the Jews were fond of goats, the Dravidians towards the spices, the Negroes to carrion and fruit, but it was the Indo-Aryans who bred cattle and maintained vast grain farms. The Iberians had cults to their Bull God, reflected today via the Bull-fights of Spain. According to the Tanakh, there were some among Nuwa who worshiped a golden calf, and a bull-headed god called Molech or Remphan. Gilgamesh slew the Bull of Heaven in glorious combat, whereas Samson, his Jewish counterpart, slew only Phillistines.

The Indo-European was born with the Aurochs, raised with it, trained with it. The dog, the bull and the boar are the Aryans of the animal kingdom, bound together by the snake of knowledge, held by the hawk of wisdom.

>>5342052

Adverse environment forced europeans to develop advanced civilisation.

Africa is the only continent where you can survive completely naked and have a supply of food without technology. Native african societies are small and primitive.

The Middle East has seasons and food is not available year- round. They came to rely heavily on herding for food, which requires a degree of cooperation. Therefore more advanced societies emerged. The outlier is Egypt, whose people need agriculture to survive. This requires more thinking and planning and deferral of gratification than herding. Egypt will always be the most advanced civilization produced in the Middle East.

Asians are technically more intelligent than Europeans, and their long history of civilization represents it. However Asia is dense with natural resources once you get a little technology established and isn't as hostile an environment as europe is.. They all also seem to abhor breaking from tradition, which would explain why they made so little technological advancement before the world wars.

Europeans are descended from a mixture of Sapiens and Neanderthals, who had massive brains and culture just as sophisticated as the Sapiens. Europe is a rough place to be a primitive human, especially during the ice age. I theorize that these early humans evolved to constantly want more. It is a distinctly white trait to absolutely never be satisfied with what you have. We always need more, faster, better. This mentality is applied to everything. No other culture has domesticated as many animals as europeans, nor grains or fruits or vegetables. Europeans always needed more to make the next winter a little easier.

Bonus: Native Americans had it pretty easy as nomads, but central americans had perhaps the second-most hostile environment. You may not exactly freeze to death in the winter and there were only a couple dangerous predators but the terrain itself made civilization hard. They really had to get clever to get farms to work on jungle cliffsides. The terrain is so lumpy they endeavored to fill a lake just to get some flat ground. Contrary to popular /pol/ opinion they did invent the wheel, but it was so useless in the cliffs and gorges that the best mode of transportation was still your own two feet or at most a donkey. They're the youngest branch of the human tree but came much farther than Africans, who are the oldest group.

Winter

/thread

Only time and circumstance. We are not magic. We are only the bearers of the light

>>5351256

Are the other books by Kevin MacDonald pretty good besides Culture of Critique? I can only read it pages at a time already because it's pretty fucking triggering.

It's like re-waking up all over again.

The *very first* push in the direction of greatness for the white race began with the consumption of a mushroom.

How and why that mushroom contained psilocybin, and whether it was a matter of unusual coincidence or some deeper divine purpose is the real mystery.

Being really good at video games and masturbating to anime girls

>>5343432

Well said, I only partially understand the neo-pagan criticism, it's obvious that the torah and a lot of the jewish fables are taken from pagan stories, it's easy to ignore the Jewish bullshit added in. What I found really interesting is the book of Esther, what was originally a Babylonian myth of a war between 2 gods is changed into Jews vs the society they're in, as if they think of themselves as gods. Says a lot about them really.

>>5352940

MOTT has lots of half-truths in it, you REALLY need to take it with a pinch of salt. May as well just read Guenther.

>>5353774

Good but next time make the full page screenshot a PNG file

JPEG FILES ARE SHIT-TIER AND DO NOT PRESERVE TRANSPARENCY & DETAIL OF A THREAD

PNG IS GOD-TIER FILE FORMAT

>>5342288

>The Aryan race seems as a shining beacon to the world.

Every now and then. All the other time it is an example of financial ruin, degeneracy and hedonism.

There is a natural hierarchy; whites are kings, scholars, explorers and soldiers. Semites are merchants, artisans and guides. Asians are builders and also the collectors; they will store knowledge and culture for whites to use when they rise again. West abandons Christianity, technology, colonialism and tradition, Asia picks them up. Africans are the servants - a role greatly underappreciated. They may have a role to play yet in the future. What is it you find when you think 'based black man'? Is it not blunt, honest and innocent - perhaps even a tad bit childish?

You might notice that Germans had all those traits before -45… Perhaps each to a lesser degree than others - but that is the nature of man compared to animals. Hawks may have better sight, dogs better scent, oxen more strength and a whale might have larger brain… Yet it is man who rules the nature.

Jews were meant to be a guide nation, but they fell. Their visionaries desire the paths which lead to destruction, their artisans show us ugliness and the life they want for us is a complete and utter death - not physical, but spiritual and divine; we should be cattle and not representatives of the divine. They willingly go against the way they should be showing others - and themselves. {Jesus Christ: I am the Truth, the Way and the Life}

This is also why Jewish rule is always of lies; they can not assume the position of direct leader; their nature is simply that of a guide or adviser. Yet they are blind, and so are the rest…

It is hilarious that pagans hate Christianity for filling the niche which was filled by Jews before; especially since Christianity abolished the hateful ways of swindling. Christianity also

We can rationalize that there are ways in which we should behave, yet we do not see why or what for; we can find the idea of logos but we are blind to what it is. Christianity is in existence to displace / cuck the Jews from their purposed niche; it is the guidepost for all of humanity. This is why Jews will continually distort (for they can not create; for their father is the deceiver) a horrible machine or beast upon mankind. They do it to spite God and elevate themselves.

I will use an example; Haiti vs. Dominican republic. One is syncretistic, one is Christian. Which one has better guide? Which one has a goal in existence? Which one serves a purpose? Which one fulfills the purpose of man better? If there is none, they are equal.

The world is dualistic. For Europeans are the greatest kings, they are also the worst; bread & circus. For we are the greatest engineers, we are also the worst (ways of torture), for we are the greatest of scholars, we are also the worst (feminist biology)..

Asians are the greatest upkeepers and builders, but they are also the best destroyers (Mao, cultural revolution, Pol Pot, NK, Japan, Mongols…).

Even anime was adopted from West, and it has stopped developing. It awaits western innovation to regain itself in order to develop further. The semites as a whole have been highly susceptible to Satanic influences (Allah is Demiurge, Jews worship Satan/Moloch) - are the dealings with demons not trade and pact?

>>5354412

Honestly the most autistic post I've read in a long time.

>>5354429

>spiritual

>hierarchical

>purpose

>autistic

I find it the opposite. Could be that I wrote it in a way which screams 'outsider' to the context of your life, but honestly, it is the conclusion I've come to. Feel free to point out where I was wrong, though.

civilized stability?

whites and chinks are the only civilizations that can survive "collapse" events and rebuild society, others disappear

>>5354467

I raise you Persia and India.

>>5354473

….did they ever suffer mass crop failures or collapse?

>>5354484

>or collapse

When Islam took them over and destroyed the libraries.

>>5354492

and then they went to shit

I dont really remember a Persian renaissance

>>5354506

Well, they are far better off than most Muslim nations. Surviving the religion of 'Submit to Demiurge' is pretty hard, you know..

>>5344742

>24

It is just a fact. You garner more respect with them on.

>when you're on my level

As an arrogant cunt. No thanks…

>>5342052

Easy, people immigrated out of the middle east towards central asia during the ice age, the rest literally walked back into africa.

The central asia people went their own ways, but it weeded out the unintelligent.

The people who went to europe bred with neanderthals which gave them more cranial volume and europe was also the hardest place to survive in at the time.

Consequently societies and groups in europe were based on trust, individual merit, and not on bloodlines. It didn't matter if you were from one family or the other, if you personally could not contribute then you were exiled.

Likewise in places in asia and the middle east, life was easy and so you didn't need groups of highly talented people to survive.

That is why in the middle east, africa, and asia most societies are based off of kinship rather than merit.

These low trust societies cannot innovate or grow as they have no flexibility and their inherent low trust nature makes society unstable.

In Europe then we have intelligent people, individualism, meritocracy, democracy, republicanism, etc etc which not only fosters growth and allows people to climb to the top without regards to their bloodline, but gives people incentives to do so.

That is why Europe is superior.

>>5354644

>Christianity was bad for Europe

Christianity is essentially Roman or Greek (kinda like the Catholic names imply). What many here consider cuckolded attitude, is actually Roman. Say 'innocent until proven otherwise', and then applying it to even niggers. Then the 'pacifist' stances of Christianity, which are merely ways to end blood feuds and useless infighting (turn the other cheek, forgiveness and mercy).

Most of the misunderstanding is intentional. The purpose is to "test" Christians whether or not they are two faced like so many. Say, evangelicals and rednecks.

'Europe' exists because of Christianity. It was essentially how Greek and Roman cultures spread across Europe. The mass migrations caused Europe and Christianity to suffer schisms; syncretism was widespread. Papacy - despite being theologically on empty grounds - was beneficial every now and then in unifying Western Europe against Muslims.

>>5354746

>Likewise in places in asia and the middle east, life was easy and so you didn't need groups of highly talented people to survive.

>Life was easy in the Middle-East

Advancements in warfare, agriculture and technology were highly competitive amongst the different civilizations. Hittite, Assyria, Babylonia, Persia and numerous others… Many skills were highly cultivated. Although the average wasn't in on it, they were used as "cannon fodder", and polygamy was used to get more men. Effectively weeding out much of the genes.

Of course, now polygamy has raised its ugly head in the amount of in-breeding, especially in Pakistan, where they go the easy route and marry their cousins…

Middle-East didn't favor the ideal society due to the warlike and competitive nature, or perhaps the brutality of their ways… Whereas European wars were never of the same type. Until Dresden.

>>5354844

>Whereas European wars were never of the same type. Until Dresden.

Stop with this muh germanic holohoax!!1 shit, it's really pathetic.

Tokyo, London, Swinoujscie, etc were sites of bombings equal or worse than Dresden.

And do not think for a second that the germans didn't commit war crimes against the Russians.

>>5354805

People act like these "pacifistic' teachings weren't present in any of the aryan customs or traditions whether they're hindu, buddhist, zoroastrian or wodenism. Of course there's no pacifism and no lack of continuity with pagan teachings, they're all interlinked.

As you say they're purposefully misinterpreted, or are we to believe that for centuries, our ancestors had been practicing and reading it wrong?

tbh though I'm not sure what to make of the Epistles of Paul. I take them with a pinch of salt tbh.

Like islam and judaism make shitty people even shittier because of their belief systems, christianity and all the other aryan religions make a great people even greater. The further we are away from god and spiritual awakening, the worse we become.

>>5342052

>How did white Indo-European peoples attain such strength and beauty to start with?

They blended with White people.

>>5354998

Good book. Another short pdf written by the same guy (I think) called What they don't want you to know is very good too.

his short textfiles on bamboo delight are very entertaining too, he's a good author.

He's pretty much come to the same conclusions I came to, only I came to them through a different way.

>>5355110

The collective memeplex of Europeans was better. It means religion and values

I just found a fucking goldmine.

http://www.othroerirkindred.com/literature-and-ebooks.php

When people bring up the cold-adapted features in the higher races that developed during the ice age, they without fail completely forget another integral aspect of the ice age crucible that directly and specifically affect European life: The Ice Age included VERY low sunlight conditions, and because of the apparent boon this condition proved for European life I postulate that sunlight is antithetical to civilisation and abstract thought.

And I know this will seem disrespectful to the sun symbolism found in European culture. I'm not telling you that the moon is a better symbol, since moonlight IS sunlight, just reflected.

Moon worship and Sun worship both belong to the lesser races, choose instead to revere that which obscures both.

>>5354938

>implying religion ever fulfills spirituality by itself

I think our proximity to eastern civilization is what made us great. Europeans have struggled against Semitic tyranny for thousands of years. To be honest though, I think the European people are destroyed and the culture has been consumed by Semitic witchcraft. The future of our struggle is in Asia.

>>5357114

Ahistorical nonsense

>>5352961

>MOTT has lots of half-truths in it, you REALLY need to take it with a pinch of salt

this. March of the Titans is not exactly the most accurate historical work I've ever seen. take it with TWO pinches of salt.

btw my own theories

>winter and ice age, obviously

the weather and geopgraphy of europe and the northern hemisphere of Eurasian were contributors

>"race mixing"

this is a funny one, basically, you had the Old European, the Middle Easterner Farmers and the Indo-europeans

they were all caucasians, but certainly and we all know even then they had different characteristics, cultures and selective pressures. the combination of these in mainland europe was probably also important to our success. I could go a bit more into detail about each group but I dont feel like it, since this is just some thread

>domesticated animals

now, lots of civilizations and races domesticated animals, heck I think all of them did except for Abbos. but the animals that were chosen and domesticated is what matters.

Both Caucasians and Asians had horses, dogs and cats, but the importance and symbiosis that happened in Europe was much more relevant. this goes a bit back to that "race mixing" I mentioned. the Indo Europeans had great afinnity to horses, the Old Europeans probably more to dogs, tools of the hunt, and the Farmers of ME to cats who helped kill off rats and other vermin and protect the crops. I mentioned these 3 different animal species but obviously in general Europeans seem to be much more connected to animals and nature, or at least show it off more. This might be bc somewhere along the line empathy came up, the type of empathy that now might lead us into our demise btw. this made possible our symbiosis with animals and something I'd almost call "co-evolution". if you look at the differences between dogs and wolves and how they evolved and see the newest research that says that dogs have probably been domesticated even sooner than we thought, I think this theory has it's merit.

>again geography

but this time it's slightly different; Europe is very small but also has very different areas, from southern Iberia to Finland, from Ireland to Croatia, you can find different environments, minerals, rock formations, etc… and to top it all off, you have a mediterranean see below you, that connects to Africa, tons of deserts and then to the right more deserts, but also steppes and several civilizations

basically europe had to trade and fight with itself, and it's many peoples that showed up (still to this day europe has so many countries while places like Asia have enormous countries with 3 or 4 or more different ethnicities and religions - it's interesting bc asia seems more collectivist and obviously our more individualist aspect helped too, but at the same time despite that collectivism, there's a lot of stark differences among one nation/country while europe is more keen to fragment itself - heck, maybe THAT's why, individualism may lead to smaller tribalism while collectivism enforces coexistence among different people). and Europe, besides having to deal with many different peoples inside it's small territory had continuously been in contact with people outside europe, who had very different cultures too.

I think these are the main things that made us who we are. obviously genetics is first and foremost, but genetics are influenced by what happens, what is selected and what is not, and these, with the exception of that last factor which is more cultural, may have proven to have caused our "selection", our breed.

>>5342052

genetics

>>5342052

Strict selection through unlimited years living in harsh climate and environments(shifting seasons, ice ages etc) making only the strongest, most creative and hard-working to survive and procreate.

The end result was a god-like human being with exquisite spiritual and philosophical qualities.,wandering the earth with an advanced form of awareness unlike any life form the universe has ever seen. Capable of handling every challenge the laws of physics will allow him to.

His curse was that every other type of human being would ultimately envy the aryan man, having an inferiority complex towards the aryan man and ultimately wanting to destroy the aryan man.

>>5353774

Don't use archive.is. They're deleting /pol/ thread.

>>5359906

>>5342377

drink some yuri purge, faggot

>>5360085

even the lack of belief is death

watch yuri

but atheists are scientismist faggots

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>>5344151

>I believe this has cause a problem that is biting the West in its ass today. It's why I believe that shitskins are so easily to accept the "fuck YT, let's take over the West" mentality that is rampant in Europe and is starting to show up in NA. It's just r-type societies trying to take over the west by infiltrating and outbreeding them due to their shallow mindedness. Can't really blame the scorpion for stinging the frog, it's just in its nature.

You're making the assumption that it's because they can think. This is the basis of your argument. They can't think. They truly think it's just because whites are racist is the reason white people have more things. They truly cannot understand what, for example, maintenance is when it comes to running water and why it is needed. They just think white people use magic.

Check out that Empire of Dust documentary on youtube and also this:

https://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/

You can say that they are r-selected, and this is mostly true. But also true is that will never change.

>I believe this is why societies always seem to have struggles and die from within. What I mean is they allows others to come into their societies out of good will. They half-assedly integrate them without actually making an effort to establish them as a full fledged productive member of the society. They then are surprised generations later when the small minority turns into a force that can speak for itself and tries to take the nation/empire into its favor due to a difference in mentalities due to never being fully accepting of the host because even though they walk and work among them, they still believe themselves as outsiders.

This is true. They also always breed much more because they have no ability of self-limitation of offspring. The people who built the society always do.

> establish new races for the mutts

You could, but you generally have issues with that. Look at the medical problems american blacks have because their DNA is simply not compatible.

It would likely be better to just use IVF to purify to user's choice once this is both possible and legal.

>Madagascar comes to mind

An island nation where it is, as large as that? I'd rather use it for other things.

Once we're talking about that sort of displacement it could be anywhere. How about Haiti? That's a shithole anyway.

>Mixed (Mestizo) here. I believe the people of early Western civilizations would definitely have differences in their mental capabilities when compared to almost all others around their time, especially when you compare how often they advanced in politic, scientific, philosophic, etc. fields.

Just so you understand, as a mixed person who holds the views you do your brain is very much running on k-selected white genes.

This is also the final revenge against Islam and the retarded arabs/turks who conquer areas. They think they won when they raped people there, but they also committed self-genocide. If the people there ever start thinking, then those victories are hollow. As an example vid related. He mentions having some red hairs in his beard, and there is only one source of that.

>>5344221

Yes, and this is true of any white empire that decides it feels bad about somebody else.

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>>5347970

>1. Indo-Europeans were not the genetic ancestors of Europeans. They added some genetic material, replaced the language and probably the culture.

No, it must have been both. Not everyone left Europe/became PIE. Because otherwise when the clearly white Tocharians split off what did they split from and how are they white?

It was a white invasion of Europe and both sides were white when branches of their language spread to all.

Either this or the truth is even more convoluted, and nobody is remotely close to the truth.

>>5362627

>>5361788

That level of bumping is nowhere near needed.

>>5354506

>I dont really remember a Persian renaissance

That's because shitskin mind virus is still active, as is shitskin DNA.

It's starting to go another direction, but isn't yet.

>>5354473

>I raise you Persia and India.

India is mixed race, and the current society was built by the invading whites, and everything went to shit when the mudslimes invaded later. They've never recovered.

There may have been a civilization before the whites invaded, the original dravidian, but they're today just as fucked as the rest of the indians. I think both sides should pursue eugenics and see if the mixed people are hurt by similar genetic incompatibilities that black americans have. Or if that is just gone after having been mixed that long.

>>5362803

How many of these have you read?

>>5354938

>christianity and all the other aryan religions make a great people even greater.

I think that's the real takeaway. Most of those who profess to be atheists have no way of instilling any values on, and those that have some retained them from when they were in a church of some kind.

The atheists here won't be generally fedoras of that level, but there is still a point to be made.

>>5343269

Take it easy, /fit/.

>>5357682

I'm not in Europe at all, and that's just insane.

We are at a stage where we stand together or lose everything.

>>5363318

>We are at a stage where we stand together or lose everything.

This

>>5352961

>>5357582

what do you guys think about the race mixing parts of the book? they seem to make sense

>>5354429

this tbh

>>5354412

>Whites (I would argue Nordic)

>Semites

>Asians

>Africans

I kind of agree with these roles; However, does that not make the Mid East one of the earliest (if not the first) hodgepodges of multiculturalism?

It also seems you were going to explain something but dropped a sentence altogether with the

>It is hilarious that pagans hate Christianity for filling the niche which was filled by Jews before; especially since Christianity abolished the hateful ways of swindling. Christianity also

part

I like your explanation, somewhat, but I'd rather you took some more time to explain exactly what you mean for actual criticism on my behalf. It could make good as a short book if you honestly took the time to explain your points with more depth.

>>5365245

Sure, I'd buy it if it helped him out (especially in a hardcover physical copy). Where's his (or publisher's) website so I can get it directly?

>>5365375

The Uniqueness of Western Civilization is published by Brill.

Brill Publishing (link to the book): http://www.brill.com/uniqueness-western-civilization

Amazon (link to paperback copy):

http://www.amazon.com/Uniqueness-Civilization-Critical-Sciences-Academic/dp/9004232761/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1457845538&sr=1-1&keywords=the+uniqueness+of+western+civilization

Amazon (link to hardcover copy):

http://www.amazon.com/Uniqueness-Civilization-Critical-Sciences-Academic/dp/9004192484/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me=

>>5362803

> Alain de Benoist

Pretty based, tbh. The only thing I don't like is how he's gone out of his way to disown the political movements he spawned.

Haven't read anything by the other guys.

>>5366019

I already saw the Amazon hardcover price and I assumed it was a scalp. I guess I'll buy that one because I have no want to wait for an almost priced EU price + the time of shipping. Guess I'm a snob and want my books to be of good quality regardless of monetary price at the end of the day.

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>>5343007

vve wuz vasillias an shiiet!

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Anthropologist here, everyone in my department thinks Europeans became dominant as an accident.

I spoke to a biologist once though, and he had a much better explanation using some terms I can't remember.

>>5371753

>I can't remember.

Thank you for your comment,very helpful.

>>5371753

>Anthropologist here, everyone in my department thinks Europeans became dominant as an accident.

Yeah, that's some Jared Diamond bullshit. I've seen how modern academics often try to relativize or totally suppress discussions of the relevance of European and Indo-European genetics. They instead try to reduce everything to time, place, and circumstance.

Ricardo Duchesne challenges this view quite adequately in his book The Uniqueness of Western Civilization.

One of the things he points out is that scholars are often too afraid to discuss the strong impact of Indo-European genetics and culture because those discussions quickly get onto the topic of the "Aryan" controversy, and no modern academic wants to risk going there. It's as dangerous as Icarus flying too close to the sun. Duchesne, however, has been able to argue the perspectives he finds most convincing without getting burned too badly.

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>>5371753

Because they would be far too uncomfortable with any other conclusions. They would be too "Euro-centric". There certainly seems to be some creative spark that is unique. Or perhaps simply the most long lasting race that has it. Perhaps some other races that once had it have been utterly annihilated after the cycle of the rise and fall of civilizations. We seem to assume that the races alive today were the only ones that ever did exist.

The guy in this interview: >>5362382

and his book imply that a few white people brought martial arts to the Asians and perhaps more. That isn't to say the Asians never built on it, just to say where it began. We know virtually nothing about whites of that era and place, but he has some compelling evidence.

whatever

>>5372616

>Ostara Publications

I *think* that it's owned by Arthur Kemp, which explains why that is. Given that the views and ideas of the 1800's seem more valid than those of today to us, it seems like a good source of information.

I somewhat can't help but wonder if the fiction that is used today set in such times is just a caricature, because of the way they handle what is seen now as flagrant racism.

Anyway, back to the question, so Ostara is certainly trying to be based on purpose. It may remain to be cheaper to buy their stuff off of Amazon, but looking on their site at least will tell you what they have.

I do know of one more entirely unintentionally based publishing group. Their entire existence is old books lost to time in general. Which somewhat dictates the content. There is some pozzed stuff I've seen, like a woman's liberation book which was just about pro-hedonism. A word I never thought I'd use that way From the era near women's suffrage.

http://www.forgottenbooks.com/

You can look at what they have, but to actually download any ebooks, you need to subscribe.

Several of them have copies on Amazon for sale that they print on demand, and they say they are working to bring that to all of their books. So you can look for stuff there and then go to Amazon to see if you can get a physical one if you want it.

>>5343590

Sauce or fuck off.

I have never heard such a thing. Aryans have always been described as tall and light-coloured.

>>5385654

That's why I just ignored him.

>>5389039

Actually, they were most likely Red-Haired, and Red-Haired people were a majority of White people, with Black-Haired as second, and Blonde as a distant third.

But somehow the tides turned and the Blondes became a Majority, with the Black-Haired second and the Red-Haired third.

>>5389494

Do you have any sauce on the frequency of red hair among those proto-indo-Europeans?

Keep in mind that as they moved west they mixed both in the north and in the south so you can't look at various Indo-Europeans to understand how the original peoples were like.

>>5389039

Okay, for arguments sake, and I don't agree, let's say that that's true. Okay?

So, so what? Even if they were darker skinned, that doesn't mean they were niggers. They would still have otherwise been biologically white. White doesn't only mean skin color, there are some pretty white skinned Japanese and this doesn't make them white. Calling someone a 'white person' contains more information than 'who is the fairest of them all?' and speaking of that phrase, that article claims that skin-tone was changed because conditions in the north, I think it was just the one people preferred to look at.

Now, I don't see why that skin tone would have developed that late. The ice age is when this would have mattered the most if it was solely an Environmental factor.

Also, if that about perhaps the northern Euros were 100% blue-eyed before the people whose language we are speaking invaded, and this is why there are less now, then why are there statues in Sumeria that are all blue-eyed? This is the inverse of what you're telling me.

One last thing, and that's that whatever ancient corpses these are they are assumed to be a representative sample. This is an incredibly bad assumption to make. We know from the archaeologists that finding remains in general is very rare. So let's say that every single person in America fell over dead where they are. All pictures or images of all of them rotted, burned away or were destroyed by EMP. 100,000 years from now, they will, according to the archaeologists, be lucky to find a few hundred bodies. That's something like the maximum possible. They find lots of writing, and it is all in English. They excavate many structures and find they all belong to the same culture.

All the bodies they find are of Japanese or Korean descent, and they were found in a few particular pockets that were not evenly distributed. The conclusion is that America was founded by Oriental peoples, whom once fought in a Revolution against a ruling class of a different race of people.

>>5390900

>So, so what? Even if they were darker skinned, that doesn't mean they were niggers. They would still have otherwise been biologically white. White doesn't only mean skin color, there are some pretty white skinned Japanese and this doesn't make them white. Calling someone a 'white person' contains more information than 'who is the fairest of them all?' and speaking of that phrase, that article claims that skin-tone was changed because conditions in the north, I think it was just the one people preferred to look at.

Sure, that wasn't the point of the response though, it was just debunking the idea that the proto-IE were Nordic looking, and if the Kurgan hypothesis about the urheimat of the PIE is indeed correct, the DNA of those burial sites confirms what I said.

They had barely any genes for blue eyes, barely any for blondism and didn't have white skin genes frequencies as high as modern Europeans.

>Now, I don't see why that skin tone would have developed that late. The ice age is when this would have mattered the most if it was solely an Environmental factor.

It wasn't only an environmental factor though.

We have DNA from mesolithic west Europeans and none of them had the two genes which give modern Europeans white skin.

However, the neolithic farmers from anatolia who invaded Europe had already both, and the reason is likely because of the change in diet.

Now it's true that hunter gatherers from Scandinavia had those two genes as well, but they got those differently, because of the environment likely and because of mixing with a very old Siberian-like population.

Keep in mind that developing a mutation is different from selecting the mutation. The mutation was already in Eurasia, but it wasn't selected until recently.

>Also, if that about perhaps the northern Euros were 100% blue-eyed before the people whose language we are speaking invaded, and this is why there are less now, then why are there statues in Sumeria that are all blue-eyed? This is the inverse of what you're telling me.

I don't understand how sumerian statues matter here.

Blue eyes were present in Europe since the mesolithic, we know this from DNA. But then Neolithic farmers invaded and those had mostly brown/dark eyes. The bulk of blue eyes probably survived in Northern Europe since they got affected the least by those farmers.

Matter of fact is, the urheimat of the PIE according to the kurgan hypothesis is not in northern Europe, and their DNA confirms that they had less blue eyes than modern southern Euros.

>One last thing, and that's that whatever ancient corpses these are they are assumed to be a representative sample. This is an incredibly bad assumption to make. We know from the archaeologists that finding remains in general is very rare. So let's say that every single person in America fell over dead where they are. All pictures or images of all of them rotted, burned away or were destroyed by EMP. 100,000 years from now, they will, according to the archaeologists, be lucky to find a few hundred bodies. That's something like the maximum possible. They find lots of writing, and it is all in English. They excavate many structures and find they all belong to the same culture.

>All the bodies they find are of Japanese or Korean descent, and they were found in a few particular pockets that were not evenly distributed. The conclusion is that America was founded by Oriental peoples, whom once fought in a Revolution against a ruling class of a different race of people.

That's science for you buddy. We can only work with what we have, we can't make up shit otherwise.

The kurgan hypothesis is the best we have right now, the only other theory that has some good academic support is the anatolian hypothesis, which doesn't really play in the direction of nordicists either.

>>5343169

>The meds were superior in their organizing skills, they could group up and form disciplined and coordinated attacks that became far stronger when united.

>Group of organized meds vs nords the meds will likely win.

In the Spanish civil war the Italians were a joke for all sides. In Greece they lost against a much smaller country and economy, much less advanced. In Russia they belonged to the weakest participants and the Russians made it at custom to try to breach the front at their section, the few Spanish troops were good ones. For the general impression of being push-overs, it doesn't matter that Italy had a few outstanding units in WWII.

>>5343244

>Suicidal warmongering

It's not warmongering if one is attacked and Germany has been attacked most of the time.

Self-defence is not suicidal, it is reasonable.

> Rome didn't become rome by killing off all of its subjects.

They murdered and enslaved most of Gaul, it was a massacre and standard operating procedure of the Romans.

> (Which backfired when they conquered Germany, ha ha. But the point still stands.)

Of course the Romans killed anyone they could in their expeditions into Germania, that is pretty well documented by their own accounts. They just couldn't amass enough troops to conquer the area and had to abandon it several times.

Most of the Arno Brecker art and those of other NS artist has been destroyed after the war.

>>5392718

Yeah the Italians were pretty pathetic in WW2 tbh.

I think National Socialism was such a perfect fit for Germany, it let the Germans explore their full potential through genetics and culture, glorifying individual heroism while still honoring the volk group cohesion.

Maybe Mussolini's brand of fascism in Italy wasn't the exact right fit for their people. But you can't argue that the Latin legions of most of the Roman republic and early empire were overall juggernauts in their discipline and cohesion

>>5393050

The greatest achievement of Mussolini was tricking everyone into thinking Italy could play with the big guys, when in reality Italy didn't have the industry, the resources, or the experience to fight in such wars.

And it could've worked in Italy's favor, the only reason Mussolini joined the war was to get some land as an ally, since he thought the war was almost over. His project of restoring mare nostrum and greater Italy was just at the beginning.

>>5393244

So in the great poker game of World War 2, the Germans had a straight flush, the Italians were bluffing with a single king, and the chosen ones had the whole game rigged with another deck up their sleeves

The White circadian rhythm more closely matches Mars than Earth. We are the degenerated descendants of a superior spacefaring race. We fled here after a disaster on Mars.

>>5393533

>>>/fringe/

>>5391628

>Sure, that wasn't the point of the response though, it was just debunking the idea that the proto-IE were Nordic looking

No, that is the point, and you're missing it.

By making the claim you just did, the niggers who think they built the pyramids will think they did this too. Because they cannot distinguish between skin color and race. They seem to really think that skin color is what separates us, not other underlying differences. So saying it wasn't them, then it wasn't us.

Because your argument is that these people moved into Europe, left their language and culture and fucked themselves into oblivion with the locals. I don't care if their skin was purple. We are still the inheritors - literally - of what they achieved and this is the point that is being made when they say they are 'Nordic looking', whether it is literally true or not.

Anything past that is frankly pedantic. Even if that theory turns out the absolute truth, there is a difference between the essence of the matter (it was us) and the blatant literal truth (they looked like 'x').

Enforcing the latter too much can easily undermine the former.

The fact that it's currently only a possibility means it should be raised as such. Not what can (it didn't really here because you just pasted a link) come across as 'nope you didn't build that'.

>Now it's true that hunter gatherers from Scandinavia had those two genes as well, but they got those differently, because of the environment likely and because of mixing with a very old Siberian-like population.

Or that's the current understanding. If it's the same exact gene, I don't see why the assumption that there is not a heritage link is the natural assumption.

>reason is likely because of the change in diet.

You'd have to explain that one.

People in space or who move to asia don't have a different skin tone after eating there for awhile.

Perhaps it's over a multi-generational timeframe, but….. Because of a lack of certain vitamins in the food?

>That's science for you buddy. We can only work with what we have, we can't make up shit otherwise.

At least you're recognizing the very possible shortfall. I don't usually get that far

It seems to me that extremely often IE peoples operate in a multicultural society.

They either invade or just sort of immigrate and then make x great again and then are eventually murdered for being too successful. I don't think there is a single homogeneous white society on the face of the planet. Which is a pretty fucking good sample size. That's why it doesn't strike me as likely that they only operated as a homogeneous tribe at any time in history.

>>5393533

>plays more Homeworld.

>>5392191

Filtered for standard kike Christianity slander. Upthread is the very book that proves Christianity is one in a line of many Aryan faiths. Codeword: it's old enough to use it. Fuck off.

>>5392718

>Italians

They did switch sides in both wars.

>>5398701

>waaah he said something I don't like. MODS PLZ HELP.

You christcucks are pathetic.

>>5398720

I said I was ignoring him.

If you want to find a "christcuck" go find your local Catholic refugee charity.

>>5398720

FYI, he claimed there was no basis for the faith, I said it already is provided upthread. It's not my fault you can't read.

You only attacked me, and it's not valid.

>>5342052

The selection pressures for forethought, planning, and greater-scale cooperation exerted by an environment that has hostile and unforgiving winters.

>>5375705

the time has come for some links to pdf plox.

>>5342052

>only indo europeans are caucasian

I guess nobody on this entire planet is white, then.

>>5342052

In a word: Hardship

And the need to overcome it in order to survive.

Around the equator and below you can get away with living in a pile of twigs without progressing, the environment provides enough.

Try that shit in northern climates and you won't make it past the first winter, we had to manipulate the land, create more resilient housing just to survive.

In times where there was less hardship we turn to fight each other, over and over for thousands of years, then more hardships. It's an upward spiral powered by climate and conflict that has molded the white populace in the northern hemisphere into a position of dominant strength and innovative capabilities.

Unfortunately we have eliminated our hardships and our conflicts and without them we have no momentum.

>>5353774

Thanks anon I was about to do the same

>>5389039

>blogspot.it

>.it

WE WUZ ARYANS

ITALIA E BLANCOOOOOOO

>>5398855

Sorry, mate, I don't have those.

That's why I said you'd have to subscribe. I haven't.

Maybe it has something to do with their environment? Europe is a pretty shit continent compared to Africa at least, thus whites were always looking for ways to make their lives easier

>>5398938

great refutation m8

no Italian wants to be considered a white cuck anyway

hyperborea

>>5400396

This man gets it

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>>5400316

>Can't handle the banter

>>5401667

Whatever, stoopid

>>5399147

Love the Bismarck and Otto/Luther parts but the rest is pretty poor bait.

Charlemagne was a German, btw.

>>5342052

Dogs and Snow.

>>5403733

kekked out loud

>>5398634

The thing is, they were dark skinned by modern pro european (nordicist) standards, hell the Yanma culture was proposedly located in modern day Armenia, if anything they might have looked like the Kardashians for all that we know (they are of armenian descent)

>>5398855

go to Bookzz I found most of the books there

>>5343453

Have you read the bible?

It says pretty fucking clear that Eden is a place, it even gives the location, which is where the other guy said, Mesopotamia.

Genesis 2:8–14

8 The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground the Lord God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10 Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is Tigris; it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.

Im not even a christian was just raised that way. I do think that region is the origin of the myth though.

>>5398914

Don't worry, the mudslimes and marxist thought are making sure we'll have some.

>>5346075

>The situation of today is nothing new.

It is, this time their is nowhere to run to.

>>5418647

I agree. As far as I'm aware this race has gone from the Mid-East region (Indo-Europeans) to Europe, then to the Americas. There is nowhere else to go unless you somehow plan to colonize the Arctic and Antarctic, which sounds almost impossible when talking about moving an entire society.

This is kind of why I never really wanted to look for WW3 ever happening and I presumed the digital age would help in preventing another messy WW. The damage due to us being so technologically advanced would be disastrous not only for the Europeans but also for everyone else on this planet. This war would not kill just Europe and Far-East Asia this time, it will kill off the entire planet.

The initial premise is the same, however, the answers to this age old riddle are not unless you reconsider crusading for your lives (again).

Wake up, YT. Going to miss you if you leave us. Going to hate you if you assist them in killing us all.

Read this book. It's great. And better: it's normalfag friendly.

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=114B874C4E038CDEC9FC67EEB634D48A

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>>5398634

>By making the claim you just did, the niggers who think they built the pyramids will think they did this too. Because they cannot distinguish between skin color and race. They seem to really think that skin color is what separates us, not other underlying differences. So saying it wasn't them, then it wasn't us.

Dude who cares about what niggercentrists think? Nobody, not even most niggers take them seriously.

And I said specifically, "Nordic LOOKING", so I'm referring to their phenotype alone.

>I don't care if their skin was purple. We are still the inheritors - literally - of what they achieved and this is the point that is being made when they say they are 'Nordic looking', whether it is literally true or not.

This is just semantics, "Nordic" can mean various things, I specifically addressed the issue in terms of phenotype.

Moreover, by using the term Nordic in general you risk falling into what yourself criticize about niggers, the historical gibsmedats of Nordicists and their despise for other Europeans who don't look like them.

>Anything past that is frankly pedantic. Even if that theory turns out the absolute truth, there is a difference between the essence of the matter (it was us) and the blatant literal truth (they looked like 'x').

>Enforcing the latter too much can easily undermine the former.

Sure, but you know how it is with the whole white/aryan thing, with Nordicists often saying that only the Nordic looking whites/aryans are actually white/aryan.

The reason why I made this claim about phenotype is that if these people were to see a member of the original aryans alive, they'd call him a wog and not certainly consider him white.

>You'd have to explain that one.

>People in space or who move to asia don't have a different skin tone after eating there for awhile.

>Perhaps it's over a multi-generational timeframe, but….. Because of a lack of certain vitamins in the food?

It's the latter. As I said before, one thing is developing a mutation(like it happened with lactase persistance), another thing is simply selecting a mutation, perhaps through sexual selection in a new environment.

When farmers started eating their new diet, this diet indeed lacked in vitamins that hunter-gatherers in western Europe got from other sources(like fish for instance), so in the course of thousands of years, they selected for fairer traits and eventually got the frequency of those genes to reach almost 100%.

In Scandinavia on the other hand it was the dark environment who selected for those. Same genes, selected in different places for different purposes.

Moreover, Scandinavia also sexually selected for fairer traits in both hair and eyes. It's not that the genes weren't there(hunter gatherers in Spain had those in the mesolithic), there wasn't enough pressure to select them everywhere. So when farmers arrived in Europe(they were mostly brown eyed) and mixed with the locals, nothing similar to Scandinavia happened since the climate is more sunny.

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>>5427589

or just jump straight to Jung and Serrano

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>If we can know more precisely how we came about – or which biological, environmental, sociological, philosophical, mythological, and religious factors brought forth our preeminence – then we can know an essential key to our reinvigoration.

I think reason ( aka the knowledge of good and evil) has made the white race prevail against adversity.

Succesful societies are build initially with reason as their cornerstone, but something happens along that road.

You see, even white society creates places of power that I will describe as snakes, that have no other meaning except to subvert and control with fear the population from injustice. This snake lives on fear and injustice.

The snake of today are the jews and all those institutions like media and alphabet agencies they control

Justice and reason go hand in hand, as I said reason is knowledge of good and evil, so when unenlightened people ( as the libshits like to call them) start to question the narrative they actually question the reason behind that alleged act of justice ( an equal society that practices affirmative action) the snake mobilizes and stops them.

Despite all that the white race has been saved countless times

The white race born great men and minds like Socrates, Tesla Copernicus and Galileo that brought great change and benefit to our people.

Socrates for example showed the people of Athens how stupid their leaders and philosophers were. And how did those leaders react? They killed him.

Thou he died, and died willingly as we all know, his ideas remained and it created a lot of change in society, and in philosophy.

The same thing happened with many more after Socrates.

So, we can say we have the genetic make up to succeed but we more than ever need strong fearless leaders to show the lack of reason in society and fight a seemingly losing battle. Eventually the kikes who placed themselves on top of us will come crumbling down, but we will be safe.

This is what I think /pol/'s MO need to be. Show everyone how stupid our "masters" are.

>>5353774

Can anyone compile all or even a lot of these books together for download?

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It's germanics, specifically the germanic nordic race. Note how all the pics in the OP are germanic too

Our genes.

>>5469756

Those are 20th century statues by a German artist of the third Reich, of course they depict Germanics.

>>5342460

>satanic doctrine

Nice try, jew.

>>5474844

He never said that?

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>>5342957

When Nazism returns, the first thing I'LL do is renounce my US citizenship and join the waffen SS. There is no way I am letting history repeat itself.

One only needs to follow the Swastikas and sun worship to find the Aryan and those descended from him.

>>5482032

Don't call it "nazism", is a derogative word that the jews made up to call National Socialists

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>>5355707

>memeplex

hehehe hahaha

>>5469748

wait, is that statue rule 63 of Hercules?

>>5496851

I want to commision draw fags to make that now

using toradora

>>5345863

:^)

>>5345863

>fails thanks to devaluation of currency during a war with the Spartans

no

>>5371753

>I spoke to a biologist once though, and he had a much better explanation using some terms I can't remember.

Reminder: this is why you aren't a scientist.

Must be all those peas and carrots