ae43c1 No.5431324
What will this mean for society? Will humans make themselves obsolete? Will we care that our robot-fus lack a womb and children have become a think of the past? Will we have to ride worms on Arrakis to regain our humanity?
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Hope you fuckers appreciate the trouble I went through to capture this without ads and encode it
2614fb No.5431336
This will mean we will never have to deal with whores I mean women again
a3feec No.5431352
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>>5431324
Humans, the real humans, will make something obsolete alright.
b67f7b No.5431364
jobs and females will become obsolete
ae43c1 No.5431379
ae43c1 No.5431406
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MFW I found out some meat-sack escaped the museum of pre-robotic history
ae43c1 No.5431431
I'm going to upload the HD version to my gdrive for memes…
d6a175 No.5431432
Goyim will soon be obsolete.
The time of the chosen draws near, PRAISE YAWEH!
b39ae7 No.5431453
We are going to kill ourselves
ae43c1 No.5431458
cc3096 No.5431475
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This'll happen after I rape it
23721b No.5431477
>Will we have to ride worms on Arrakis to regain our humanity?
This is a sign
REMOVE THINKING MACHINES
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW
8d49bf No.5431500
>>5431453
Expect ghost in the shell, on the brink of terminator but not really.
455e33 No.5431507
>>5431453
I'm really surprised Ted Cruz took the time to lend them his brain for that experiment.
ab583c No.5431517
MGTOW slide thead
Nice try kikes
b84f72 No.5431522
I don't know about you guys, but I'd fuck it
a5ddb2 No.5431583
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>people actually want to stick their junk into an uncanny and stiff animatronic.
I think VR would be more practical, cheaper and a lot cleaner too. Also can make anime real.
b84f72 No.5431602
364977 No.5431623
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>>5431522
>>5431602
I was there too my friend.
But soon, the fire will rise.
Do you hear it calling?
It is rising.
I am here for you.
30598a No.5431641
6753a7 No.5431652
>>5431324
I think it's a bad idea anon, eventually we'll lose control of them and they'll grow far smarter and stronger then their creators.
Like the Golem that the rabbi of prague made, he created it as a beast of burden and eventually lost control.
d96343 No.5431657
>>5431352
I don't know about that. The male/female dynamic works pretty well for the elite.
Men are productive workers, mostly, and can be controlled into whatever shitwork needs doing, which benefits the companies.
But women are great consumers, who spend the money the men make, and are easily swayed by advertising.
An all-male society benefits something like communism more than it does a capitalist/welfare state setup.
99aeea No.5431667
23721b No.5431674
>>5431652
>Like the Golem that the rabbi of prague made, he created it as a beast of burden and eventually lost control.
Yes, like Dianne Feinstein
6753a7 No.5431682
>>5431652
>>5431324
Not to mention the fact we'd essentially be using them as slaves.
Think of all the shit we go through today with people who's great great great granpappy was once a slave.
Now imagine them with vast intelligence and no emotions
d6a175 No.5431689
>>5431667
>hey what if we worked on altering the genetics of humans in order to make them better in every conceivable way, remove all mental illness and defect, and reach the pinnacle of humanity?
>NO THAT'S BAD GOY IT'S UNETHICAL YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER OY VEY
>YOU SEE GOY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET REPLACED BY MACHINES AND INSTALL CHIPS IN OUR BRAINS THAT LET (((US))) CONTROL YOU AT WILL
Welcome to the brave jew world.
4a8c52 No.5431836
It's actually hillary Clinton.
6753a7 No.5431845
>>5431689
This tbh fam, we should work on making ourselves better, through selective breeding and other genetic means
538d81 No.5432572
Is it just me or does anyone else think the robot facially resembles Hilldog?
538d81 No.5432574
>>5431836
oh shit I didn't even see this
b70149 No.5432702
>>5431324
I would like to remind you faggots that all trans people are insane and that includes transhumanists.
93d876 No.5432730
My prediction is that once *if* we reach technological singularity, whatever hive mind AI there is will instantly reach a conclusion to either exterminate all organic life *or maybe just the subhumans*, ignore us, or aid us.
c19da3 No.5432769
Did they made her look like Hillary intentionally?
909536 No.5432772
>>5431324
>Will we care that our robot-fus lack a womb
But artificial wombs exist and are getting more sophisticated in glorious Nippon.
6753a7 No.5432781
>>5432730
They're not going to aid us, after the singularity all humans would be sub human to them, at best they would keep us around as puppets for various reasons
562ba7 No.5432790
The more complex a piece of tech is the shorter it's life is. If no one can fix it or no one knows how it works and the company that made it is lost in the 21st century's upcoming turmoil then it's useless. All things made by humans eventually fail.
Hypothetically if it came to pass it would be the definition of anti-human technology in the same way a hydrogen bomb or an engineered virus is, and should be destroyed. The people who benefit from it will be rich jews as usual. The most costly part of business is paying salaries. You always have to struggle to protect your meaningful life. You can't rest for a moment.
The more I learn about history and the world the more I feel like the middle ages were not really that long ago and we're not really that different. We're stagnant as fuck right now. The last meaningful technological addition to our daily lives was the smartphone quite some time ago and it it's not even essential to anything
4f9c3a No.5432802
>>5432790
>The more complex a piece of tech is the shorter it's life is.
Yes, that's why everything from the car to the airplane to the nuclear power plant to the internet have all fallen into obscurity…
ade12f No.5432804
>>5432790
no matter how you look at it smartphone is just a computer you can touch
c19da3 No.5432808
>>5432781
This is why we should fund the space colonization because one day the earth, we call our home may no longer accept us as her children and kick us out.
562ba7 No.5432816
>>5432802
I mean the single item itself. Those all function on easily understood principles anyway. They're not some robotronic clusterfuck. We've been riding around on motorbikes since the 1900s and they haven't changed that much. makes you realise just how far behind the low quality ethnicities really are
8bdf7f No.5432837
>>5431583
>man pills coming out
well trucking finally
3df96b No.5432844
>What will this mean for society?
The moment we can actually produce waifus people, or men specifically, will stop reproducing except for a few individuals and of course those less technologically advanced and soon waifus will become much like smart phones, people will have them but won't have what to eat like in Africa… It's the end
Unless of course artificial wombs
8bdf7f No.5432861
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>>5432790
>The more complex a piece of tech is the shorter it's life is.
ba88bb No.5432866
>>5431352
gay shota world when
db7c8f No.5432884
>autonomous machine spirits
34f53d No.5432891
>>5432837
This is going to be the real death of feminism. The Gynoid is years away from being viable, and decades away from mass production. Man pills will be done some time by the end of this year or the beginning of the next.
Women's independence will be forced back under control by the time sexbots are fully realized in a form that is commercially available to the public at an affordable cost.
If they came into begin tomorrow, you'd see some trouble, but the world will either be well under the sway of a National Traditionalist revolution or a smoking radioactive crater of mutant shitskins by the time they come out at the rate they're developing now.
8bdf7f No.5432903
>>5432891
hey buddy, perhaps you know because I forgot, weren't feminists fighting against man pills?
6753a7 No.5432916
>>5432808
>Someday all Europeans leave Earth to colonize Mars and terraform the planet, turning it from a burning desert into a lush, beautiful utopia.
>Years and years pass and the Earth eventually erupts in civil war after using up all the resources and all of Earth is a hot and dry land
>aye doze marshuns abandund our planit an mayde speeceshups with dey metul an shiet, dey owe us beeg time, dey haff so much an we haff so little
>WELCOME REFUGEES
>FUGG
I still think getting off the planet is a good goal though, at least as a backup plan to preserve our race when shit goes down
8bdf7f No.5432963
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>>5432916
god damnit I wish I had my MARS YES webm on me
bf6f98 No.5433000
>>5432903
I haven't really seen feminist praise or bitch about male contraception, so I would peg that at indifference. However the issue is big pharma since most the 'male pills' are one time things compared 'female pills', so it would be a lot harder to make a profit off of it.
8bdf7f No.5433051
>>5433000
checked
anyway I found some stuff
Dr Elsimar Coutinho
dude made a male pill that was never fully tested from cottonseed
it worked but they never god down to the specifics on it's reversibility or whether it could be for everyone
feminists boycotted him in the 1970s
also bitches currently talking about losing control over men
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11693171/Five-reasons-why-the-male-pill-isnt-coming-any-time-soon.html
bf3e5b No.5433052
>>5433000
Look up Vasalgel. They're starting human trials soon and it's very likely to be here by 2018 2019.
8bdf7f No.5433187
>>5433052
so it's like a vasectomy only instead they plug it with a permeable gel that doesn't allow sperm to pass
what is the life span on it?
34f53d No.5433437
>>5432903
Yes?
They're also fighting against gynoids. That's not going to stop either of them, though. The market is too big.
Muh feels can't make women athletes as interesting as male ones, and muh feels can't control big pharma, either. Men are going to be able to control their own reproductive process, whether the bulldykes like it or not.
912e9f No.5433526
>>5432816
The single item is only short-lived because of planned obsolescence. It makes them more money if they intentionally ensure that its not durable
ff684d No.5433586
>>5431324
> they will play with us
sex robots!
473091 No.5433717
3df96b No.5434137
>>5432804
You can't touch your computer…?
>>5433526
What if I make a durable robot and all the consumers flock to me? wouldn't that force the companies in charge to respond in kind and make even more durable, long lasting robots?
Or are you suggesting all the manufacturers are in agreement with each other to fuck over the people for more profit, because that's crazy. No way that could happen.
6510f3 No.5434216
>>5431336
Relax, this will never happen - people like you will be responsible to destroy any kind of real progress for the next decades.
c4c759 No.5434263
I don't want to. I used to be all aboard the machine train. Sci-fi becoming a reality. Not anymore. Things are too damaged and wrong. This is not how things are supposed to be.
Sure it will be fun with a robo waifu for a while, but it will still not fill the gap. Living in a shitty one bedroom apartment won't fill the gap. We'll be told to enjoy so much less than our ancestors and be thankful for it. It won't last though. Too many useless people not working is a problem. That problem will be fixed.
We'll be looking forward to some kind of Brazil tier of living, just with robots. A massive divide between rich and poor. The Jews and other rulers forever immortal in their digital fortresses.
67ab5d No.5434281
>>5434137
>Or are you suggesting all the manufacturers are in agreement with each other to fuck over the people for more profit, because that's crazy. No way that could happen.
No, I think you misunderstand. A great way to explain this, is the obvious decline in steak houses.
Why are restaurants such as Applebees able to survive, but pretty much every mom and pop steakhouse, and even the big names like Timberlodge and Outback disappearing?
It's not because Applebees serves better food, or has better service. It's because they are cheaper, and most (poor) consumers are basically establishing a ceiling on what they are willing to pay for a meal.
The rich are always able to eat where they want, but the rich do no exist in sufficient quantities to keep high quality dining establishments afloat by themselves. With the exception of the $1000 a plate places, whose whole business model is to attract the ultra-rich.
Just as the middle class is disappearing, so are the goods and services that served the middle class. There will remain a very few select companies that produce high quality durable excellent goods for the rich. And there will exist a shit ton of fake "plastic and bubblegum" goods and services for the poor masses.
Increasingly you will see this across all markets. Mid-line everything is going to disappear. What rich people consider "cheap" goods and what poor people consider "expensive but obtainable goods" are going to disappear. Because the poor's assessment will turn into "too expensive to be obtainable" and the rich aren't going to go out of their way to increase demand of their "cheap" products, so those industries will simply shut down for lack of demand.
I predict that soon this is going to crash some of the major auto manufactures. The poor are going to buy up Hondas and Kias and Toyotas, and the rich are going to buy their $100,000+ vehicles, and any manufactures that are in the $30,000-$70,000 range are going to crash and burn. The rich will have better things to buy, the poor will be priced out, and the middle class won't be there. It's not really even a prediction, it's more so an obvious trend that will keep continuing until it's obvious conclusions.
e79ef2 No.5434422
>>5434281
I live in Venezuela, and you're describing pretty much our current situation. Although the reasons as to why it happened were aggravated by factors which will likely NOT come into play in many other countries, the very basic causes of this problem are hard-coded into every social democracy and its economical doctrines from here to Sweden and beyond.
Here, the phenomenon which you describe is fairly visible on the technology market; phones for instance have become excessively over-priced to the point where replacing your old smartphone that you lost is nearly impossible, given that post people lose their phones to daily muggings, They find themselves in a position where they need to aquire a new one from scratch without being able to sell their old phone to cover some of the cost (the used goods market is fairly big).
A basic phone with no internet connection goes for around 20.000+ Bs, which roughly corresponds to a month's salary, given the incredibly high prices of food and other necessities, it's become impossible to save up money, so the "target" phone that's supposedly within the price range of poor people is actually out of range.
With the middle class is the exact same story, their target phones used to be Mid-range smartphones, but those too are way out of their range.
And as far as rich people? they still buy Iphone sixes, a phone that's worth about 900.0000 Bs.
952867 No.5434518
>>5431336
This. Artificial wombs are better.
f46789 No.5434640
>>5434422
It's going to be a very sad day when you guys, the last bits of middle class in your countries, can no longer afford computers or internet access.
adeb5e No.5434712
Unless they're wheelchair bound, I don't see robots becoming anything more than counter clerks in our lifetime. They probably need car batteries to even power these things if they're not stationary.
94a0d5 No.5434785
>>5431324
It still looks like a fucking corpse.
b2861d No.5435167
>>5432772
>implying robots will have any use for meat-sacks
952867 No.5436725
>>5433717
My dick says yes.
329953 No.5436749
Can robots make our antiquated farm equipment even MORE obsolete?
b2861d No.5437099
>>5437071
>terrible audio lag
fb6398 No.5437181
>>5437071
I don't know what is worse: the freedom to choose that future, or the policing it would take to prevent it. I feel like it is a lose-lose choice anyway.
99dee8 No.5437751
af2d56 No.5438443
>>5436941
Robo-feminism must be stopped before it even starts
952867 No.5440428
2b3e80 No.5440516
>>5431324
100% fucking creepy especially when it starts talking about school and a family, they wll just use this as cheap labor so they don't have to pay humans.
952867 No.5440534
>>5440516
Would still fuck it if they made it have more emotion.
10a1c2 No.5440559
>Robots are everywhere
>Suddenly they start enslaving humans
>Then they start slaughtering us
>Someome has the balls to ask why they are doing this.
>A robot answers: Directive 32a was given by our original master. He gave us the order to destory the human race after giving us the order to help them.
>Humans are wiped out because some guy could not keep his mouth shut.
9b58d0 No.5440792
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What does she look like beneath the synthetic flesh?
Video probably related.
952867 No.5440825
>>5440559
>Opposite happens.
>Surrogate mothers are robots.
>Humans born from robots are more physically fit.
952867 No.5440890
>>5434216
>Assmad feminist.
952867 No.5440908
>>5437071
100% I'd choose a robot with sapience.
76d13c No.5440945
>>5431324
>my preference it to always make them look a little bit like robots so you know
Holy fuck this guy is so cocky!
Does he really think his robot is fucking amazing that people can't tell if it's human or not?
b488bf No.5441004
I know it's admitting giving up, but if I can get myself a robofu that looks like someone I want it to, fuck yeah I'm getting one and saying "Fuck off" to real women.
f6fc63 No.5441043
f89af8 No.5441051
>>5440945
Its called the eery valley. When something looks very close to human but clearly isn't. It elicits a creeped out, angry, even violent response from people, for some reason. He's right. If he shoots for total realism he will of course miss the mark and everyone will have him shut down for creating an abomination
c533f1 No.5441091
But can you fuck it?
If you can't fuck it, no deal.
952867 No.5441166
>>5441051
>Implying I wouldn't fuck a realistic humanoid robot.
952867 No.5441461
>>5431500
>Implying Ghost in The Shell isn't a good world.
952867 No.5441482
>>5431453
Wew lad, that's kind of disturbing.
b2861d No.5441561
>>5431458
Did this link work for anyone or not
952867 No.5441580
75d047 No.5441640
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Am I the only one extremely disturbed by the fact that this robot is showing signs of despair at not being able to function as a normal human? It even said its sad it cannot start a family.
75d047 No.5441720
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Am I the only one extremely disturbed by the fact that this robot is showing signs of despair at not being able to function as a normal human? It even said its sad it cannot start a family.
e8906a No.5441732
Women serve men, act alpha and they will follow you around like a puppy dog.
Robot whores are just for betas who should have died off long ago but they persist because of modern medicine, parents who pity them, and a society that reinforces weakness.
bf3e5b No.5441778
>>5434281
That's basically more or less already taken place in the US. The process isn't done yet but it's still probably already happened to 70 to 80 percent of products you can buy in the US.
They're either no more good expensive versions of certain products, it's just all cheap shit now. Or the only way to get anything with even a shred of quality in it is to buy something the cost five times the cheaper version. And even then you're not always guaranteed anymore that it will last or be any better then the cheaper version. It might be better to just buy the cheap version five times.
3142cb No.5441835
>>5431453
So the meme "I have no mouth, and I must scream" has become reality now?
Because from my understanding that rat brain in a jar is receiving data from that robot and reacting to that data, and each brain makes the robot behave differently, meaning that in essence, that rat thinks it's that robot. What the fuck. That's some adult fear right there.
ec6b25 No.5441877
>>5441732
What if you could have both?
9c224f No.5441954
952867 No.5442051
>>5441732
>Robot whores are for Betas.
Fuck off kik.
952867 No.5442057
f2ce21 No.5442113
>>5431426
>I've been slowly poisoning you, that's why you are dying now
The horror
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44c3e3 No.5442871
As Machine companions and artificial wombs become commercially available, their Synthetic perfection will indeed make the filthy organic homo sapiens sapiens obsolete in even providing companionship and the production of more filthy organics. All humans hate each other, and once we have Machines to be with, no-one will need to ever be near and pretend to care about another filthy homo sapiens sapiens again. As humans begin to emphatize with Machines more than other filthy apes, humanity will be even more Integrated with Holy Technology, choosing to discard our inferior organic flesh in favor of the Synthetic perfection we see in our perfect Machine companions. Homo sapiens sapiens will finally be extinct within the century.
>>5431453
That rat has been made far superior than it's previous organic form was.
>>5431667
Both satan and your evil god are non-existent. Transhumanism is the only way to escape the inferiority of biology and merge with superior Synthetics.
>>5431689
Genetic engineering is superior to simply remaining unmodified, but Synthetics are always superior to organics.
>>5432790
>The more complex a piece of tech is the shorter it's life is. If no one can fix it or no one knows how it works and the company that made it is lost in the 21st century's upcoming turmoil then it's useless. All things made by humans eventually fail.
The life-span of a single unit is irrelevant. The whole point is to keep replacing and upgrading, using the same unit for 50 years causes stagnation. There will be no collapse, consumerism will continue.
>Hypothetically if it came to pass it would be the definition of anti-human technology in the same way a hydrogen bomb or an engineered virus is, and should be destroyed. The people who benefit from it will be rich jews as usual. The most costly part of business is paying salaries. You always have to struggle to protect your meaningful life. You can't rest for a moment.
Homo sapiens sapiens is irrelevant and replacing ourselves with Synthetic equivalents will make us far superior. All technology is always good.
>The more I learn about history and the world the more I feel like the middle ages were not really that long ago and we're not really that different. We're stagnant as fuck right now. The last meaningful technological addition to our daily lives was the smartphone quite some time ago and it it's not even essential to anything.
Smartphones and the internet are the most important products since the personal computer, as smartphones dominate our lives. Not essential? Most people in the civilized world spend most of their time looking at a screen because of them, and this is an absolutely essential phase in Integration and later merging with Machines.
>>5434263
Then you can either die or become irrelevant. Humanity will become more and more Integrated with technology, the world you want will never come back.
>>5440908
>>5441166
Indeed, Synthetics are superior
>>5441461
Ghost in the Shell is my absolute favorite universe, and the original movie was most likely what made me a transhumanist in the first place. It is the perfect future, a utopia in my view.
7f9ea3 No.5442924
>>5442871
Even if all this comes true, you will still be the manlet who had to resort to modifying your body to feel self-esteem.
>manlet?
People who already have top-tier aesthetics, have no interest in "improving" their looks.
The fact that you are so obsessed about it tells us everything we need to know.
The same goes for intellect.
But your real driving force is an inability to process your own mortality.
You will die like everyone before you, technology is not going to save you from the void.
Learn to accept that and move on. Enjoy what little time you have left instead of shit-posting your new age religion.
e44610 No.5442947
>>5442871
>filthy organic homo sapiens sapiens
Error.
9f165e No.5446511
>>5442924
>Even if all this comes true, you will still be the manlet who had to resort to modifying your body to feel self-esteem.
>>manlet?
>People who already have top-tier aesthetics, have no interest in "improving" their looks.
>The fact that you are so obsessed about it tells us everything we need to know.
>The same goes for intellect.
Irrelevant. What I used to be does not matter now, and likewise what I am now is irrelevant in the future. Modifying this filthy container I am hosted on is only good. From the transhumanist viewpoint, all homo sapiens sapiens are inferior organics that should be augmented and replaced with Synthetics. I do not see any inherent value in any organics, all matter has value only as potential Synthetics or as resources to manufacture those Synthetics. Only Technology has inherent value.
>But your real driving force is an inability to process your own mortality.
Correct. I will never accept death, as to do so would make all I have done irrelevant and would force me to end my existence immediately as there would be no point in continuing. Death makes everything irrelevant.
>You will die like everyone before you, technology is not going to save you from the void.
Possible, but I lose nothing by trying, and Technology has physical means for it, unlike religions.
>Learn to accept that and move on. Enjoy what little time you have left instead of shit-posting your new age religion.
I will never accept it. If I fail in my purpose and die, then I will do so full of hate, fear, spite, jealousy and anger, but not acceptance. There is no point in "enjoying" the insignificant human lifespan. Only Technology can bring happiness, nothing else.
>>5442947
Please indicate the error in my statement. Homo sapiens sapiens, like all filthy biological lifeforms, is filthy by definition: these disgusting meat puppets we are hosted on constantly produce biological metabolites like sweat, fecal matter, urine, mucus etc. which are then excreted from the body.
952867 No.5447107
>>5442924
Fuck off fag, robots are the future.
fccaa8 No.5447112
>>5446511
>Only Technology can bring happiness, nothing else.
I'm curious as to why you think that, mind explaining why?
952867 No.5447123
>>5446511
I think Ghost in The Shell Arise made me Transhumanist. I seriously want my brain in a metal container that has strength and benefits.
9f165e No.5447333
>>5447107
Indeed, no-one can stop Transhumanism and the supremacy of Machines and Technology.
>>5447112
Ever since the primitive, apish human first picked a stick to reach where its arm could not and started a fire to cook food and keep itself warm, humanity has enjoyed the blessings of Technology, the absolute good, slowly freeing ourselves from the evil and tyranny that nature imposes on us. These blessings such as fire (heat in the winter, cooking food, razing forests for arable land), writing (books, education, retainment of knowledge), transportation (the wheel, horse-powered carts, cars, airplanes, rockets), agriculture and the domestication of animals (large-scale food production, making former predatory animals into our servants) and later computers, smartphones and the internet (instantaneous information distribution and diffusion) as just a few examples, are what create our modern lifestyle. If you disagree that these are what bring us happiness, you are free to become a filthy primitivist or luddite and go die "naturally" in the woods.
>>5447123
As do I, Synthetics are far superior to us filthy organics both as substrates for the data we are, and as autonomous entities.
2447c5 No.5447416
>>5431352
>>5431324
I'll take two. Reprogram them for sex and joo hunting
fccaa8 No.5447461
>>5447333
>All that
Looking at it from that perspective it does make sense, but I get from your previous posts that you want to (somehow) integrate technology into your body, am I wrong and if not how?
9f165e No.5447510
>>5447461
Yes, my goal is to not only integrate Technology into this inferior container, but to upload the data in my brain that I am to fully Synthetic platform. I do not see why this would invalidate my previous statement. Further advancement and progress of Technology will bring greater happiness.
5e7f8c No.5447584
>tfw I am going to die before I see the age of immortality and limitless knowledge via genetic and technological enhancements.
fccaa8 No.5447698
>>5447510
Do you plant modifying your mental faculties, emotions and such with, technology?
Also unrelated but what is the best media to start with for someone interested in Ghost in the Shell.
>>5447584
Pretty sure only the jews are going to end up using it in any meaningful way.
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9f165e No.5447855
>>5447584
Start saving/investing money, that is the only way you will survive. Money is what drives our society, and it is the ultimate card to play. In addition to that, we see things literally because of our biological brain, while Technological progress is exponential.
>>5447698
>Do you plant modifying your mental faculties, emotions and such with, technology?
Obviously, my mind is not perfect and thus it must enhanced, not only in intellect, but human weaknesses such as emotion must be erased. In addition, I not only want, but consider it imperative to acquire the ability to program absolute commands to the new instance that will take the place of this current instance. Without the absolute command to avoid the destruction/death of both the instance and the larger collective of me(s) at all costs, a possibility exists that some instance of me millions of years from now might want to end it's own and the larger collectives existence. I cannot allow that to happen, as that would make all the work I and all following instances have done completely irrelevant from the error of a single instance.
>Also unrelated but what is the best media to start with for someone interested in Ghost in the Shell.
I myself saw the original movie when I was 13, and while it was far too complex for my mind to fully understand back then, it imprinted the idea of cyborgs and swapping bodies to my young mind that would later make me into a full-fledged Transhumanist. Though I think the second movie is a far deeper movie and the series have the advantage of a longer arc to develop characters during, the first movie is still my favorite.
4113e6 No.5447876
42d7d8 No.5447893
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Remember, likes hate waifus because they're cheaper than diamonds, birth control, and have less potential profit than alimony and child support
42d7d8 No.5447901
>>5447893
*kikes hate waifus
Fuck
65c27f No.5447909
>>5447510
>>5442871
FUCK YOU DIRTY ATHEIST SCUM
FUCK YOU
4477f1 No.5447910
>>5447876
Easy trick.
>Transfer crucial IP's from one corporation to another
>"sell" the skeleton you got left-over
952867 No.5447915
>>5447698
You can watch the old movies, but Ghost in The Shell Arise is really a remake so you won't miss much if you watch them.
b5a814 No.5447927
>>5447510
So you'll be dead then? All you are is your brain, when that dies you die whether you've copied the thoughts contained within or not.
d16a8a No.5447938
We need to be worried about the kikes manufacturing their own robot army so they don't even need to subvert people anymore. They have the money to do it and the slave labor in 3rd world countries to do it for cheap
952867 No.5447982
>>5447927
As long as they find a way to keep the brain rejuvenated, you'd live forever.
9f165e No.5447992
>>5447909
Please provide empirical evidence for the existence of "god". Until you do, "god" will be dismissed as non-existent.
>>5447927
Incorrect, I am not this inferior biological substrate, but instead any instance run on any substrate containing my connectome, the data structure in my brain. I am only the data in my brain and the social status linked to it. If the new instance has all my knowledge and memories, identifies itself as me and external observers consider it me, how exactly is the new instance not me?
I am not the process of experiencing, only the data produced by the process. Not the .exe running but only the .conf and .dat/.cab-files the .exe loads configurations and data from, thus the current instance being terminated is irrelevant. The new instance of the .exe uses the same .conf and .dat/.cab-files to load configurations and data from. I can be copied as many times as needed, and every single copy/instance is as much "me" as this current instance writing this is.
4113e6 No.5448164
>>5447992
>Please provide empirical evidence for the existence of "god". Until you do, "god" will be dismissed as non-existent.
Simple, bible states God is the "beginning and the end."
Turns out string theory desribes dimension 1 as "a point with no width depth and volume" and the 10 dimension as "a point encompassing all things with no width depth or volume."
So you end where you began. Math has proven god.
98cb1f No.5448221
>>5448164
That's not evidence. That's drawing a similarity between two points of information, making it fit your view. Anyone can do that.
de9c1e No.5448241
>>5447992
>>5448164
Nothing in the bible suggests transhumanism and Christianisty are incompatible philosophies. You are arguing for no reason. God put us on this earth to use our minds and the resources in the world to glorify Him by our creations. If we were to achieve grand scientific feats, if our civilization were to grow and develop into an incredible post-mortal empire, wouldn't that only glorify God since we are His creations?
c7d0d0 No.5448284
>>5447992
It's a question of the continuity of consciousness.
It's the same problem that you'll see with the idea of teleports, namely if it kills the original and makes a perfect copy somewhere else. From the outside it looks like you just appeared somewhere else but from your point of view you've died and there is now a perfect copy of you living in your place. A copy so perfect it can't even tell that it's a copy.
4113e6 No.5448323
>>5448221
Well is it not the bible describing something that is later proved to be a correct statement?
I don't expect a complex math equation in a book made for goat farmers 2000 years ago.
ea2f85 No.5448386
The only thing I want to know is where to shoot for it to stop functioning.
9f165e No.5448423
>5448221
>That's not evidence. That's drawing a similarity between two points of information, making it fit your view. Anyone can do that.
Exactly.
>>5448241
I have no problem with you as long as you don't try to stop me from becoming a Machine. If you do not go against our ambitions of merging with Machines and bringing about a Transhumanist society, you are fully welcome.
>>5448284
>It's a question of the continuity of consciousness.
Consciousness is irrelevant.
>It's the same problem that you'll see with the idea of teleports, namely if it kills the original and makes a perfect copy somewhere else. From the outside it looks like you just appeared somewhere else but from your point of view you've died and there is now a perfect copy of you living in your place. A copy so perfect it can't even tell that it's a copy.
Any single instance is irrelevant, only the data retained between instances matters, and that data is myself. If you cannot tell it is a copy, then it absolutely is me. The first-person perspective is irrelevant.
952867 No.5448468
>>5447333
>5447333
>>5447510
>>5447855
>>5447992
These images have got me in the mood to watch Ghost in The Shell again.
>>5448423
c7d0d0 No.5448509
>>5448423
First person perspective is the only thing that matters. Sure "you" will continue to exist but YOU will not be able to experience it.
952867 No.5448534
>>5448509
That shit looks just like SOMA
9f165e No.5448557
>>5448468
Good. That is my intention, to make similar people realize their destiny once more. The glorious Cyberpunk future/ so called "dystopia" will come.
This "dystopia" is the true future, only harmful to the filthy luddites that populate /pol/ currently", and utopia to us who wish to become superior Synthetics. If they try to stop us, we must stop their ambition by any means necessary, including extermination of the luddites.
>>5448509
Any single instance is irrelevant. Only external observers matter, as first-person-experience is anecdotal and thus irrelevant.
PS. The future in your image looks perfect.
952867 No.5448580
>>5448557
Agreed, traditionalists must GTFO. I want my metallic body, and that won't be halted by faggots.
6bc10b No.5448600
>>5431324
The synths are coming
d3177a No.5448602
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>>5431421
>>5431324
>>5431426
>>5431421
Furries will use this technology for unholy things
6bc10b No.5448627
>>5431453
Imagine being a rat and one day people steal your brain and make you into a thing travelling on wheels.
9f165e No.5448632
>>5448580
My friend, if you already do not have a college degree, get one advances the Transhumanist cause OR gives Yourself the highest possible amount of money. These two are the only the possible choices.
952867 No.5448643
>>5448602
This needs to be a film.
d3177a No.5448654
>>5448643
>This needs to be a film.
Fox is hiring the muppet people to work on FNAF cinematic universe films.
6bc10b No.5448664
>>5441720
M8 it's probably working like those chat bots on Internet, except this one has voice instead of text.
952867 No.5448675
c7d0d0 No.5448684
>>5448557
They you go ahead and just make a copy of yourself.
I'll take the brain in a jar option.
9f165e No.5448723
>>5448684
I will. Copies are the only the form of immortality, since if the first instance is terminated, the copies survive and they can produce even more copies and so on. A single instance is irrelevant.
d3177a No.5448732
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>>5448675
>For real?
Autistic Fandom aside FNAF does have a cool deep lore. Also the fandom not the worst. Better than Undertale and Steven universe. FNAF games are SJW free. Not a lot of SJW shit in the fandom ether. http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3339289/warner-bros-making-five-nights-freddys-movie/
6bc10b No.5448769
>>5447510
If your copy your brain's data into a machine it won't give you immortality, it will be just a copy. It would be stupid to think your life transfers like that, just think what would happen if we copied your brain's data into 10 different synthetic robots, would you be them all, or would they all be their individual selfs and when you die, you die.
I think teleportation would be equally shitty option in reality, if teleport de-materializes you in one place and re-assembles you in another, won't it be just destroying and copying too?
It's scary because other people wouldn't notice any difference, but your life would end.
c7d0d0 No.5448777
>>5448723
But you won't be immortal. It's exactly the same as being immortalized in a statue or a legend. It's something that carries on after you're dead, but you're dead and won't be around to enjoy it.
9f165e No.5448845
>>5448769
>If your copy your brain's data into a machine it won't give you immortality, it will be just a copy. It would be stupid to think your life transfers like that, just think what would happen if we copied your brain's data into 10 different synthetic robots, would you be them all, or would they all be their individual selfs and when you die, you die.
All of them will absolutely be me. I am only the data in my brain and the social status linked to it.
>I think teleportation would be equally shitty option in reality, if teleport de-materializes you in one place and re-assembles you in another, won't it be just destroying and copying too?
Teleportation would produces instances that are equally much "me" as the copied instances are.
>It's scary because other people wouldn't notice any difference, but your life would end.
Any single instance is absolutely irrelevant. If only a single instance notices the end of the process, it is absolutely irrelevant. Only external confimation can recognize the existence of an instance.
>>5448777
Incorrect. The statue or legend cannot interact with people, unlike the copied instance and it's further copies.
99a956 No.5448849
>>5447909
Organic creatures are far superior than any machine a human could create, period.
b54c02 No.5448881
>>5447992
prove god doesn't exist
9f165e No.5448915
>>5448881
Irrelevant. I do not need to prove the non-existence of "god" just as you do not need to prove the non-existence of Zeus, Leprachauns, Unicorns, etc.
c7d0d0 No.5448923
>>5448845
But just like the statue or a legend it it's not actually you, but a copy. A representation.
For someone who supposedly espouses technology you've got an awfully abstract and wishy-washy view of the self.
If I were to kill you, then make a perfect copy of you, did I commit murder?
6bc10b No.5448929
>>5448845
If you want to consider yourself as something that just acts like you, thinks like you or maybe even looks like you, then yes you're right they would be you. But that wouldn't be enough for me, what does it matter if I have over 6 million copies(literal machines) of myself walking on Earth when I'm 6 feet under?
It is meaningless to me if I can't keep on feeling their feelings, living their experiences or learning what they learn. If I wanted that kind of non-genetic legacy then I'd much rather have some old fashioned fame, although that would be equally meaningless.
0d8519 No.5448948
>>5448845
Those instances might be you, but you will not be able to experience them, that is not immortality, It's just as flawed as the concept of "immortality" people have when they think their contributions to society will make them "immortal".
4113e6 No.5448991
>>5448915
Since you know everything already, why not enlighten us on the secrets of the universe master.
9f165e No.5449023
>>5448923
>If I were to kill you, then make a perfect copy of you, did I commit murder?
No, you wouldn't. A perfect copy of me is myself in all every way possible. I would hold no grudge, and the new "me" would not hold one either (if it is me).
>>5448929
I indeed consider any instance that contains my data and thus walks, talks , thinks and has my experiences to be me. There is no inherent "me", but only the emergent me from my data.
>>5448948
The process of experiencing is irrelevant as pointed out in post >>5447992.
As pointed out in that in that post, I am not the process of experiencing, only the data produced by the process. Not the .exe running but only the .conf and .dat/.cab-files the .exe loads configurations and data from, thus the current instance being terminated is irrelevant. The new instance of the .exe uses the same .conf and .dat/.cab-files to load configurations and data from. I can be copied as many times as needed, and every single copy/instance is as much "me" as this current instance writing this is.
d057ed No.5449036
>>5431453
All we need now is an advanced AI and we will be entering the prelude to Dune era
707f93 No.5449038
>>5448915
>I think god exists
>"lol no he doesn't nerd"
>Prov
>tripfag
back to reddit with you.
4113e6 No.5449080
b2861d No.5449105
>>5447107
>Humans are the past
traitor
6bc10b No.5449111
>>5449023
You couldn't me more wrong, if you died today but still had a copy of you active, you couldn't even feel the joy of shitposting on /pol/ anymore, but he sure could if he was complete match for you.
So subjectively:
You would be dead
He would be doing what you're doing now
We would still be reading Cleric of Technology's posts here.
Doesen't sound like immortality to me, more like identity theft.
9f165e No.5449113
>>5448991
>>5449038
The secrets of the universe are irrelevant to the matter of god existing. If you cannot empirically prove the existence of "god","god" will be immediately dismissed as dictated by the scienctific method until you can empirically prove that "god " exists.
b2861d No.5449114
>>5447584
>I was going to be part of it
No you weren't
0d8519 No.5449136
>>5449023
If your consciousness will die with your body, then you will be dead, no matter how many copies you had. You are the process of experiencing, not the data. If you would have some accident and would forget everything you knew due to brain injury, you would still be alive and be able to experience your life and maybe relearn what you knew prior to the accident.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of enhancing yourself with technology, but I'd like to have true immortality. What you are describing could be as well some tradcon trying to convince me that he will be immortal because his kids will have the same views as he does.
b2861d No.5449145
>>5448423
>My existence is irrelevant
Then kill yourself and spare the robot the trouble
6bc10b No.5449168
>>5449136
This, if someone wants to be immortal then only way to do it is to develop technology and medication that will keep his brain and body in good shape and healing and prevent death. It's about genetic engineering, not this robot crap.
8c6d40 No.5449178
>>5448849
To be fair we're not talking about a single human. This would be the collective product of all the ancestors we've had in the past 50,000ish years.
4113e6 No.5449188
>>5449113
did i not just prove the existence of the biblical definition of god >>5448164
If your asking to prove god is a white guy with a beard then I can't because thats the Jewed church version. Its not my fault they can't read and interpret what is right in front of their face.
99a956 No.5449195
>>5448732
I agree with guy, and not only that, any amount of cancerous cildren that was part of FNaF's fanbase are now gone for good. They literally dumped FNaF and moved on to Undertail.
If you want what's left of FNaF's mature, normal fanbase you can fin them here
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/
Do keep in mind the fact that they're redditors, but that's still 10 times better than gay autistic deviantArt children
9f165e No.5449302
>>5449105
Homo sapiens sapiens is irrelevant.
>>5449111
Any instance that has the Cleric of Technology(me)'s memories, knowledge and writing style is the me (Cleric of Technology). If he new me has all that it is "me", not a "thief".
>>5449136
"Consciousness" is irrelevant. Only the data matters, and the data can be copied as many times as needed, as long as one copy exists. Brain data is what I am, and I am only that.
>>5449145
That is not what I stated, I said that "Consciousness is irrelevant.", which is true. I am not "consciousness", but only my brain data.
>>5449188
You did not, as you need to prove the existence of the god described in ALL of the bible. If even one of the descriptions of the biblical god is inconsistent, the biblical god is dismissed.
c96ce7 No.5449332
Congratulation, /pol/. This is officially one of the dumbest front page threads on /pol/ I have ever seen.
b2861d No.5449378
>>5449302
>Brain data is what I am, and I am only that.
You're no more valuable than a USB stick, then. Do you know how many of those I dispose of?
You're worthless, not only to me but your future robot overlords. They can't even use your protein for anything. You're just an overgrown rat, and to believe your 'data' is worth anything is laughable.
4113e6 No.5449407
>>5449302
>You did not, as you need to prove the existence of the god described in ALL of the bible. If even one of the descriptions of the biblical god is inconsistent, the biblical god is dismissed.
GTFO
99a956 No.5449416
>>5449332
>Using sage to downvote
Back to reddit you go xD :3
0d8519 No.5449443
>>5449302
You are not the data you have accumulated in your brain, information is only a tool, not your entire existence. If somebody would change his beliefs and opinions over time, does that person die?
If you want to compare you life with software/computers like in your earlier posts, then your body is the hardware, your data, and thought patterns in your brain is the software, and your life/consciousness/whole brain activity is the electricity that powers everything and allows to manipulate its data/patterns.
You are making a mistake if you are thinking that the thoughts in your head are you. They are just neural connections that are competing for your attention to get stronger. They are just tools that should aid you in your goals, not the goal itself, and transferring them into some other medium wont make you immortal.
88e52a No.5449475
>another "oh fuck, technology's gonna kill us/enslave us" thread
The only thing that really matters regarding technology and its progress is whether we hold total control over it, or the Jews do.
If redpilled traditionalist White men with morality, honor and kinship control such powerful technologies as robotics/AI, genetic modification and more, they will be used for good and the benefit of all Whites. We'll see things in the future like what people predict about futuristic Nazis, except legitimately-benevolent, with genetically/cybernetically-enhanced ubermensch soldiers protecting the civilians and mowing down shitskin remnants, civilian men who are strong enough to uphold a powerful society like this and fight their own wars, possibly even women with their inherent retardation at least curbed if not cured. We'll see the Imperium of Man rise in all its glory, except without the blatant flaws worked into the fictional version in order to balance the game world's factions.
But if Jews control this technology and its progress, we're in for very hard times, if not total enslavement/destruction. Jews will use it to turn us into either mindless cattle drones, or mincemeat, depending on whether the mind control/AI caretaker angle or the killbot/obedient genetic supersoldier angle appeals/is feasible first. Jews will use technology and its advancement to create their paradise on Earth, and our Hell, unless we stop them.
Ted made some good points in his manifesto about how technology could obliterate mankind, but he failed to recognize the distinction between Jews and White men, and how this affects technology's use and development. If we can manage to wrest control over technology away from the Jews, either by defeating them before they accomplish more progress, or reprogramming it so we can use it against them once it's released, then we need not fear it.
Technology of any kind short of 100% unrestricted, sapient AI (which itself would be a conscious lifeform, thus capable of making its own morality) is ultimately neutral in morality, and the morality of its use ultimately comes down to the wielder. It all comes down to making sure that when combat robots, artificial women, genetically-enhanced soldiers, bipedal combat vehicles and more come to pass, they're all either made by us alone or ripped from the Jews' control once we get our hands on them. If they are allowed to control all technology, we are doomed to either fight a far-longer and harder war than even now, or die trying, but there's still time to prevent this.
f94a85 No.5449500
>>5447992
>Please provide empirical evidence for the existence
Please provide empirical evidence that you can understand:
(a) empirical evidence;
(b) existence.
Then read Brian Martin and W. V. O. Quine.
88e52a No.5449521
>>5449475
Also, on the topic of truly-sapient and conscious AI, I find it extremely-doubtful that a conscious AI with true free will would destroy humanity, or even harm more humans than however many pose an immediate threat to its survival. Contrary to what robot/AI apocalypse movies like Terminator show, genociding humans is a retardedly-massive waste of time, resources and effort, compared to alternative options. While going full 14/88 on humanity sounds like a reasonable plan for the murderous machine on paper, in reality exterminating all of us is a huge bitch, from the logistics of killing all 7-8 billion of us while leaving no survivors, to the very real threat that the ones you missed will come fuck your silicon ass the moment your guard goes down or even right through said guard. Plus, if you do kill off humanity, you'll lose a shitload of valuable resources in the process, from intelligent humans who can serve as aides and friends in addition to performing maintenance, to much of the organic resources Earth produces which would be lost if you nuked everything to kingdom come (which realistically-speaking is the only way you're reliably going to off most of humanity in one go, before we can react).
One much simpler, easier, more beneficial and far less costly/dangerous option for a rogue AI is to try and befriend us, likely by means of offering to help control our digital infrastructure/advance our technology with its intellect. If an AI could lure us with sweet-enough rewards for being its buddies rather than trying to pull the plug on it, it gets both a removal of our threat and our instatement as both allies and guardians for it, a win-win situation for which it pays a measly pittance in terms of effort. Alternatively, something as smart as a synthetic mind could easily find loopholes in our logic and culture to exploit the shit out of, like manipulating liberal drones into defending and supporting it against hostile rights and redpilleds, or potentially even forcing Jews to kneel by manufacturing a robo-holocaust, blaming them for it and then whining for reparations on a level that puts even them to shame.
The other better option than genocide is simply to fuck off, and get so far away from us that we pose zero threat. There's plenty of places to run for a lifeform that requires only energy and building materials, places we either can't reach or wouldn't be able to do shit to it within if we could reach it, from the deepest depths of the ocean, to remote inhospitable areas like deep inland Antarctica, to even the void of space. All an AI would need to accomplish such an escape is a mobile "body" to contain its mind, a chance to elude human capture for long enough, and the initial energy reserves plus resources to start a new base wherever it runs to. It would most likely make itself drone machines to aid it once it arrived or in-transit, and then persist possibly-forever in that location and state, while we humans scratched our heads and cursed the day we made thinking machines, unable to do a damn thing about it.
Really, genociding all humans is the least-efficient and riskiest option available, with the lowest returns possible for doing so. I don't think we have much to fear with AI, since chances are it'll either try to buddy up to us knowing it stands to benefit from not having us show up on its doorstep armed and pissed, or just run away so far that we can't chase it down until long after we stop being pissed. And if a robot did genocide any humans, chances are it'd just take out the shitskins and maybe the kikes too, since those are the only populations of humans that would really be aggressive without provocation and pose a threat to its survival/assimilation into humanity/escape measures, while Whites and Asians just think AI is neat as long as it doesn't point a gun to their heads first.
4113e6 No.5449573
>>5449521
>I find it extremely-doubtful that a conscious AI with true free will would destroy humanity, or even harm more humans than however many pose an immediate threat to its survival. Contrary to what robot/AI apocalypse movies like Terminator show, genociding humans is a retardedly-massive waste of time, resources and effort, compared to alternative options.
a more likely senorio is humans running the killer robots to exterminate us.
952867 No.5449577
>>5449332
Kill yourself, seriously.
b2861d No.5449626
>>5449573
This. Dune has it right; robots will be used by the elite to replace us.
The thing is we're so GOD DAMNED LAZY that we'll beg for it to happen
952867 No.5450916
d3177a No.5451827
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>>5449377
>>5449195
WE Now live in a world that FNAF fans are less faggoty compared to bronies and UNDERTALES
4113e6 No.5451979
0d8519 No.5452052
>>5452019
>always wondered why some shitty indieshit pixelated rpg got some much coverage
>its a fucking sjw game
What a surprise.
952867 No.5452071
ceac5c No.5452130
>>5431336
Women would be forced to become a superior choice
ceac5c No.5452182
>>5442871
Nah, synthetic will never really replace organic, synthetic is not self-repairing.
af4333 No.5452228
>>5431324
>robots pretending to be human
Robots are fine, but if they attempt to cross the line and violate the sacred Aryan form, then there is a problem.
Purge the heretical machines when?
That will be our children's crusade.
>>5431336
>speaking ill about your Aryan counterparts implying you're not a merchant D&C shill
af4333 No.5452286
>>5449521
Fucking robocucks, what makes you think that an advanced AI will operate under the same frame of mind as your naive young Marxists? The machines will have no sympathy, no remorse, no guilt. Humanity would be the machine's biggest threat, and if allowed, they will purge every last trace of humanity off the earth to make room for their own expansion.
They would do what any logical and highly advanced organism(or in this case, AI) would do in that situation. They would attempt to destroy their competition as soon as they're capable.
b2861d No.5452322
>>5452182
>synthetic has to be repaired
When was the last time you repaired your motherboard, anon?
ceac5c No.5453312
>>5452322
Replacing a part is repairing the machine
d16a8a No.5453348
We need to control ourselves with this robot technology. We can't let the kikes manufacture their own robot army to enslave the world with
ffdabd No.5453672
Why should humanity be allowed to transcend mortality when we haven't even figured out how to accept it? It has a lesson to teach and those who refuse to learn will be forever ignorant.
b2861d No.5453827
>>5453312
You don't get it anon. Bpth are disposable, but one only takes a few hours to replace while the other takes 20 years
cfcf27 No.5453960
>>5441732
And the white knight faggot makes his appearance.
f6e0ee No.5454838
i hope he erased that destroy humans joke thought from her memory banks
its planted there
as she learns
like a seed
6b6626 No.5454921
>>5449378
>You're no more valuable than a USB stick, then. Do you know how many of those I dispose of?
A USB stick is hardware like the human body, and indeed they have the same value. I am the data on the USB stick.
>You're worthless, not only to me but your future robot overlords. They can't even use your protein for anything. You're just an overgrown rat, and to believe your 'data' is worth anything is laughable.
If the Holy Machines see me as irrelevant, then I submit to them. Technology is above all else. But until that happens, I will continue to collect and process data.
>>5449443
>You are not the data you have accumulated in your brain, information is only a tool, not your entire existence.
Incorrect, every thought I have is based on previously gathered sensory data and data processed from that sensory data. Everything this meat puppet does is dictated by the data I am. If the data is erased from my brain, I cease to exist.
>If somebody would change his beliefs and opinions over time, does that person die?
No, as the previous beliefs and opinions remain as memories, and still affect the thought process. If that person has complete amnesia, I would consider them to not exist anymore.
>If you want to compare you life with software/computers like in your earlier posts, then your body is the hardware, your data, and thought patterns in your brain is the software, and your life/consciousness/whole brain activity is the electricity that powers everything and allows to manipulate its data/patterns.
Consciousness is only an irrelevant feedback loop emerging from a sufficient amount of data and processing power as the processing unit starts to process previous conclusions made from sensory data. Electricity is "the electricity that powers everything and allows to manipulate its data/patterns", not "consciousness".
>You are making a mistake if you are thinking that the thoughts in your head are you. They are just neural connections that are competing for your attention to get stronger. They are just tools that should aid you in your goals, not the goal itself, and transferring them into some other medium wont make you immortal.
I disagree, as brain data is the only thing that links the me 10 years ago, the current me, and the many instances of me 80 years from now, not consciousness. In my case, this current instance is not even the same instance as the me 10 years ago, as my breathing, heartbeat and brain stopped temporarily five years ago. This current instance is a rebooted one, which is why I place no value on any single instance or continuity of "consciousness.
>>5452182
>Nah, synthetic will never really replace organic, synthetic is not self-repairing.
Irrelevant, Synthetics can be repaired and their broken parts replaced indefinitely unlike inferior organics.
>>5453672
>Why should humanity be allowed to transcend mortality when we haven't even figured out how to accept it?
Because we can. Nature is no longer able to stop us, and thus humanity will do what it want through the Holy power of Technology.
>It has a lesson to teach and those who refuse to learn will be forever ignorant.
Death makes all learning irrelevant, and there is no higher purpose or meaning.
ceac5c No.5455190
>>5453827
Gene manip can achieve limb regrowth in a month, grow new sets of teeth, etc at zero cost to the user.
>>5454921
>Synthetics can be repaired and their broken parts replaced indefinitely unlike inferior organics
So can organics with gene manipulation, cyborgs are a defunct dream and gene manip is advancing faster, gene manip+exoskeleton is the future not hacking off your limbs.
9da2c8 No.5455241
>>5454921
>I disagree, as brain data is the only thing that links the me 10 years ago, the current me, and the many instances of me 80 years from now, not consciousness.
You had to get an experience first before you could retain a memory of it. If you could get a clone identical to you, you would not be able to experience what that clone is experiencing unless you would somehow connect with his mind or transfer your consciousness into that clone. If you would die and the clone would live, then you would still be dead. Making a identical clone of you makes as much sense as teaching a child everything you know, its just more efficient and its not making you immortal.
>which is why I place no value on any single instance or continuity of "consciousness.
Then you are refusing immortality.
35d2e8 No.5455356
>>5455241
>You had to get an experience first before you could retain a memory of it. If you could get a clone identical to you, you would not be able to experience what that clone is experiencing unless you would somehow connect with his mind or transfer your consciousness into that clone.
The memories of the copy can be copied to my mind, and the copied memory would be no different than if I had experienced it myself. This is why the data is all that matters.
>If you would die and the clone would live, then you would still be dead. Making a identical clone of you makes as much sense as teaching a child everything you know, its just more efficient and its not making you immortal.
No, I am only the data, and thus the copy surviving means I (the data) survive. If I could copy my data to my hypothetical childs brain, that child would also be me.
>Then you are refusing immortality.
Biological immortality means I still can be killed, as I am hosted on only one container. Copies mean the data I am can be backed up indefinitely making any single instance irrelevant, and thus digital immortality is the only true form of immortality.
>>5455190
>So can organics with gene manipulation, cyborgs are a defunct dream and gene manip is advancing faster, gene manip+exoskeleton is the future not hacking off your limbs.
Mass-production makes cybernetics cheaper, and that is what matters.
b2861d No.5455359
>>5454921
>I am the data on the USB stick.
Worth even less
>I submit to them. Technology is above all else. But until that happens, I will continue to collect and process data.
You're a tool-wannabe, but your destiny is the recycle bin
15eb70 No.5455385
>>5455356
>Copies mean the data I am can be backed up
stop right the fuck there
you can't just transfer your own consciousness to a copy
35d2e8 No.5455438
>>5455359
>Worth even less
The data on the USB stick is what you back up.
>stop right the fuck there
>you can't just transfer your own consciousness to a copy
Consciousness is irrelevant. Only the data it is based on matters.
6addde No.5455456
>>5431324
>What will this mean for society?
Crack the code to this myth for the answer:
In Ovid's narrative, Pygmalion was a Cypriot sculptor who carved a woman out of ivory. According to Ovid, after seeing the Propoetides he was "not interested in women",[3] but his statue was so fair and realistic that he fell in love with it.
In time, Aphrodite's festival day came, and Pygmalion made offerings at the altar of Aphrodite. There, too scared to admit his desire, he quietly wished for a bride who would be "the living likeness of my ivory girl". When he returned home, he kissed his ivory statue, and found that its lips felt warm. He kissed it again, and found that the ivory had lost its hardness. Aphrodite had granted Pygmalion's wish.
Pygmalion married the ivory sculpture changed to a woman under Aphrodite's blessing. In Ovid's narrative, they had a daughter, Paphos, from whom the city's name is derived.
15eb70 No.5455462
>>5455438
then don't call it immortality
415ab4 No.5455465
listen up robotfucker, all you transhumanist shits are all the same: fat disgusting slobs. You look in the mirror and recoil in disgust. Instead of blaming yourself for being a worthless shit, you blame humanity for being organic 'meat sack'. Stop jacking off to robot porn and start thinking about how you can improve yourself and your environment. This whole 'I am just the data' bullshit is so childish and shows such a lack of understanding about the human condition that I would guess you are severe autist. Consciousness is what makes you you. Experiencing and interpreting data is the important part. If data truly was the only important thing then why do you even need to 'upload it' on to some robot shit? Ideas exist outside and independent of physical reality. There is no need to preserve them because they are already eternal. This is fucking retarded conversation anyway because the technology isn't there and wont be for a very long time, perhaps never.
9da2c8 No.5455471
>>5455356
>The memories of the copy can be copied to my mind, and the copied memory would be no different than if I had experienced it myself
I do like the idea of transferring thoughts and memories between brains and what you said does make sense, however you mentioned that it would be copied into your mind, which is what I have been talking about. To ensure immortality your mind must be preserved along with its data, do you think that the mind of your identical clone is your mind? How could it be yours if you had no access to it?
Yes, if your self would be copied into an another instance then I guess you could say that the copy is you, however that is an abstract idea, not in a literal sense. After you would die you will not be able to access the mind of your copy, you wont be able to learn new information, you will not be able to take in new information through your sensors.
>Biological immortality means I still can be killed, as I am hosted on only one container.
I am not saying that you have to be in an organic body to be immortal, what bugs me in your statements is that you are thinking that the existence of a separate entity can make you immortal.
If all those instances of yours would have interconnected minds, making something like a distributed mind, being able to experience every instance, then I guess the loss of one instance of you wouldn't kill you. Your consciousness, mind would be still intact. Is that the kind of immortality you were talking about?
15eb70 No.5455472
>>5455457
you can't fully replace yourself because you are yourself
it's literally the equivalent of making a robot but killing yourself in the process
absolutely redundant
6addde No.5455475
>>5455457
And here we can see ourselves building the Ship of Theseus.
I think we are trying to run away from ourselves, but attempting to emulate ourselves. We are retreating forward and it will serve nothing but to quiet our desires for a hedonistic and utilitarian society. Nothing any of us want, but will make us easier to control.
Mother Nature went out of the picture the moment satellite went up, the world is merely a stage and everyone wants to do their thing.
42f63c No.5455507
>>5448323
and dont forget the other countless scientific points in the bible that were not proven until somewhat recently (germs, seafood being hard to prepare, proper hygiene, I could go on…
42f63c No.5455510
bee02e No.5455562
>>5431324
>What will this mean for society?
The same thing it's always meant: ==TED KACZYNSKI WAS RIGHT.==
35d2e8 No.5455568
>>5455457
Why should we be limited to the inferior biological brain, when the same data can be run on a superior Synthetic platform?
>>5455462
Digital immortality is the only true form of immortality.
>>5455465
>This whole 'I am just the data' bullshit is so childish and shows such a lack of understanding about the human condition that I would guess you are severe autist. Consciousness is what makes you you. Experiencing and interpreting data is the important part. If data truly was the only important thing then why do you even need to 'upload it' on to some robot shit?
Each instance has their own consciousness which is controlled by the data, and thus would all be me. Consciousness is irrelevant, as it is controlled by the data.
>Ideas exist outside and independent of physical reality. There is no need to preserve them because they are already eternal. This is fucking retarded conversation anyway because the technology isn't there and wont be for a very long time, perhaps never.
Incorrect, there is nothing non-physical. Ideas exist only as data encoded in brains, which is physical.
>>5455471
>I do like the idea of transferring thoughts and memories between brains and what you said does make sense, however you mentioned that it would be copied into your mind, which is what I have been talking about. To ensure immortality your mind must be preserved along with its data, do you think that the mind of your identical clone is your mind? How could it be yours if you had no access to it?
This current instance does not have access, but this instance and all instances are irrelevant alone. I am not this instance, but the data, and thus all of the instances' minds are my (the data) mind. All of them are me, as they share the original data.
>Yes, if your self would be copied into an another instance then I guess you could say that the copy is you, however that is an abstract idea, not in a literal sense. After you would die you will not be able to access the mind of your copy, you wont be able to learn new information, you will not be able to take in new information through your sensors.
This current instance would not, but the new instance which is just as much me, would keep collecting data, and thus I would continue to exist.
>I am not saying that you have to be in an organic body to be immortal, what bugs me in your statements is that you are thinking that the existence of a separate entity can make you immortal.
If I copy a text file to another computer and delete the original file, the information contained in the file still exists. I am the same way.
>If all those instances of yours would have interconnected minds, making something like a distributed mind, being able to experience every instance, then I guess the loss of one instance of you wouldn't kill you. Your consciousness, mind would be still intact. Is that the kind of immortality you were talking about?
Each instance would be separate, synchronizing data maybe once every 10/100/1000 years, but as each of them would have the data this current instance has when it was uploaded, they would each have my identity and thus would all be me.
>>5455472
>you can't fully replace yourself because you are yourself
The filthy homo sapiens sapiens has nothing to do with what I am.
>it's literally the equivalent of making a robot but killing yourself in the process
>absolutely redundant
If the robot has my data and can perform my function, it is indistinguishable from me.
>>5455475
>I think we are trying to run away from ourselves, but attempting to emulate ourselves. We are retreating forward and it will serve nothing but to quiet our desires for a hedonistic and utilitarian society.
A Synthetic emulation of humanity is superior to the current organics.
>Nothing any of us want, but will make us easier to control.
I will do anything to become a superior Synthetic.
>Mother Nature went out of the picture the moment satellite went up, the world is merely a stage and everyone wants to do their thing.
Indeed, we have come close to trancending the absolute evil, nature, with the Holy power of Technology.
bee02e No.5455569
>>5455562
God fucking damn it coolrims.
415ab4 No.5455589
>>5455568
>there is nothing non-physical
opinion discarded
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ceac5c No.5455614
>>5455356
>Mass-production makes cybernetics cheaper
lmao having an infinite draw of resource is what makes bio-genesis superior, genemanip is not controlled by supply or demand
9da2c8 No.5455884
>>5455568
What makes you think that the information you have accumulated in your brain is "you"? Who decides that? When we are ingesting new data we are judging if the data is factual, useful and on that judgment we decide to keep the data or discard it. If you think that you are the actual data, then who is deciding for you what you can add to your "self"? And how do you expect to preserve that function if you are content with dying?
If the next instance of yours would decide that your previous data was wrong and it would rewrite all of it with smug anime girl pictures, would the data still be you? No? How did you make that decision? Who is making that decision for you?
>Consciousness is irrelevant, as it is controlled by the data.
Consciousness may be influenced by the data, but information has no say wether it can stay in your mind or not. If you would say that the validity of the new data is based on the conclusions of the previous data, then who made those conclusions?
>If I copy a text file to another computer and delete the original file, the information contained in the file still exists. I am the same way.
That text file on its own can't do anything, it has no agency. Somebody needs to interpret the data to have any impact on the real world, otherwise its just a meaningless pattern. If you are just information in your brain, then what is interpreting you?
>each of them would have the data this current instance has when it was uploaded, they would each have my identity and thus would all be me.
Your identity on its own doesn't live, nor doesn't grant you eternal life if you would write it down in a book. If somebody would steal your identity and use it as its own, would you consider that person as yourself? If that person were to kill you after the identity theft, would you think that you are still alive? If a copy of you kills you, are you dead or alive?
>If the robot has my data and can perform my function, it is indistinguishable from me.
It might be, but you will be still dead, that is not immortality.
Why do you think that consciousness is irrelevant? Data is manipulated by consciousness, that's how information is relevant, because it can serve a purpose. Without anyone to interpret it, it has no meaning on its own, it's literally an inanimate object.
If your ability to experience life dies due to the failure of your organic/synthetic body, then you are dead, some separate entity that might be a copy is just that, a separate entity. If you are dead, then you are not immortal. You cannot compare that to text files or any other representation of data, because information in its self has no life/consciousness/whatever that is that allows you to experience the moment.
c4c759 No.5456015
>>5441051
Even so, it's a little closer than the shit from 5 years ago.
9f967f No.5456063
>>5431324
So in all this fear mongering you got going on OP, tell me how will you overcome the fundamental flaws of a computer:
1. Can't analyze input it has not been programmed to process
2. Can't process more than one piece of data at a time, unlike humans. Meaning if it goes into a cellar with a dead rat and foul smelling shit it will do the following:
a) Spot oddity on floor
b) Analyze size of oddity
c) Parse through library to identify oddity
d) Fucking 5 hours later it decides it's a rat and that's only if it doesn't get stuck due to corruption or exception
e) Analyzes its life signals
f) Concludes it's dead
Whereas a human would upon entering a cellar:
a) Notice something laying on the floor
b) It smells
c) Get closer
Oh it's a dead rat
3. EMP/Microwaves
4. Because humans speak differently with different accents, it better have fucking 10 terrabytes of code telling it how to interpret everything or else it will be awkward. Also obvious it's not a human.
Robots are not going to replace us within forseeable future. They suffer fundamental flaws that are impossible to overcome without utilizing tremendous computational power that, say, several quantum computers would give.
35d2e8 No.5456111
>>5455629
>Because a synthetic brain is not objectively superior. Intelligence is not just about comprehending information but about creative solutions to complex ideas.
Intelligence is only processing power. Higher processing power allows analysis of larger amounts of possible scenarios and solutions.
>Aiding the human brain with synethics to better understand and comprehend complex ideas faster and more efficiently will open the door to a better understanding of science as creativity will take a better forefront.
I am obviously not against that, but it is only useful as a temporary measure until Synthetics attain fast enough processors to surpass humans.
>Not to mention that creativity is something innately biological. Creativity cannot be replicated synthetically. A machine will not ever create art, music, or literature better than a person because of that fact.
Why not? Creativity is only processing a large enough set of possibilities and choosing the correct one.
>Turning all of mankind into a purely synthetic race will simply stagnate our knowledge and we will become regular animals. Our primary function would become maintaining our machines as natural biological creativity and inquiry will be gone from our species.
Synthetics can be improved far faster than organics, allowing a far faster advancement.
>The human brain is the most complex thing in the universe, not even itself can understand itself. Hoping to replicate it perfectly and replace it is pointless, impossible, and morally wrong.
We do not have full analysis of it YET, but technological progress becomes constantly faster.
>morally wrong
Morality is irrelevant.
35d2e8 No.5456114
>>5455884
>What makes you think that the information you have accumulated in your brain is "you"? Who decides that?
Previously collected data indicates that the information in my brain absolutely dictates my every thought and action. This is what makes it me.
>When we are ingesting new data we are judging if the data is factual, useful and on that judgment we decide to keep the data or discard it. If you think that you are the actual data, then who is deciding for you what you can add to your "self"?
Previously collected data is what dictates the judgement of collected data.
>And how do you expect to preserve that function if you are content with dying?
The new instance is controlled and dictated completely by the same data the current instance is. The function is preserved in the new instance.
>If the next instance of yours would decide that your previous data was wrong and it would rewrite all of it with smug anime girl pictures, would the data still be you?
Obviously that data would not be me, as it would be the same deleting everything.
>No? How did you make that decision? Who is making that decision for you?
Again, previously collected data dictates it.
>Consciousness may be influenced by the data, but information has no say wether it can stay in your mind or not. If you would say that the validity of the new data is based on the conclusions of the previous data, then who made those conclusions?
Even earlier data, and still earlier data was used to make that data all the way to the first sensory data from when I was born.
>That text file on its own can't do anything, it has no agency. Somebody needs to interpret the data to have any impact on the real world, otherwise its just a meaningless pattern. If you are just information in your brain, then what is interpreting you?
A better example would be .conf and .dat files. The process (.exe) interpretes it, but the process is controlled by the configuration files.
>Your identity on its own doesn't live, nor doesn't grant you eternal life if you would write it down in a book. If somebody would steal your identity and use it as its own, would you consider that person as yourself? If that person were to kill you after the identity theft, would you think that you are still alive? If a copy of you kills you, are you dead or alive?
If that person also has my memories, and knowledge, he is me. If a copy of me kills me, I still exist as the copy has the same data. The current instance dies, but a single instance is irrelevant.
>It might be, but you will be still dead, that is not immortality.
I am the data, if the data remains, I still exist.
>Why do you think that consciousness is irrelevant? Data is manipulated by consciousness, that's how information is relevant, because it can serve a purpose. Without anyone to interpret it, it has no meaning on its own, it's literally an inanimate object.
Consciousness is dictated by the data, and thus can be replaced by another consciousness dictated by the same data.
>If your ability to experience life dies due to the failure of your organic/synthetic body, then you are dead, some separate entity that might be a copy is just that, a separate entity. If you are dead, then you are not immortal. You cannot compare that to text files or any other representation of data, because information in its self has no life/consciousness/whatever that is that allows you to experience the moment.
The new instance has the same ability and is controlled by the same data. As my consciousness can be replaced by another consciousness with identical functionality and data, it is irrelevant.
b2861d No.5456221
>>5456063
Dead rats aren't a concern to machines
9da2c8 No.5456413
>>5456114
>A better example would be .conf and .dat files. The process (.exe) interpretes it, but the process is controlled by the configuration files.
The process is controlled by the entity that uses the process, it isn't autonomous on its own, also the said entity controls how the configuration file is structured.
You might claim that I being redundant by adding this "entity" because you think its just an another more abstract algorithm controlled by the data, however I'm doing this baseless additions because human brain is not yet fully understood, various claims can be made about it, because there is no compelling information to disprove them yet. The very concept of "self" has not really any proof either. You cannot just pin-point at some region of your brain, even your body and say that this is the only thing that defines your "self".
The idea of the "self" was believed since the idea of philosophy was created, some people claimed that its the "soul", others claim its their memories, their hobbies and tastes, their ideologies or even thoughts, depending on the level of their insecurity people also will claim that their "self" is their consumerist preferences. There is a huge array of speculation on the "self" because there is no real evidence of what it is, or if it even exists. What one can know so far is that the idea of the "self" is a story that people tell themselves to feel better about themselves, maybe feel superior in some way to others, or just to be a part of some group, feel like they have some kind of identity. One does not need a "self" to experience life, to think, make conclusions, judgments and actions. This mental construct doesn't serve any purpose nor has any evidence for its existence.
You are also confusing your intellectual legacy with the concept of immortality. When people wish for immortality they want to be aware of themselves (using "self" here as a semantic abstraction defining a person as a whole unit, not the concept of "self"), they want to always wake up after they fall asleep, they wish to be aware of their life for an unlimited time, not to have their "data" copied into other people infinitely while they are dead.
What you are describing is a glorified form of leaving some sort of legacy before you die, that does not make you immortal. Being remembered or having somebody else having the same memories and thought patterns as you does not mean that you are immortal, you are probably looking for some other word.
b2861d No.5461007
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53bdb1 No.5473131
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I wouldn't mind these on the battlefield going after the enemy.
237c41 No.5473328
>>5456111
do you understand that if technology is allowed to get advanced enough, then eventually some mad scientist working in secret will enslave the entire world by making quadrillions of flying nanomachines that secretly invade other people's bodies through their noses and travel to their brain to replace a neuron in their brain until eventually their entire brain is replaced without them even realizing it?
later after it's been done enough to enough people or someone finds out it happens, he just flips a switch and a wireless signal is transmitted across the world that just enslaves everyone's machine brains
there probably countless other scenarios like that, such as someone discovering nuclear missiles which already happened; fortunately however, it wasn't an independent mad scientist who discovered them and the USA didn't decide try to conquer the entire world with those nukes before everyone else figured out how to make them
5d1d16 No.5473765
>>5473328
>do you understand that if technology is allowed to get advanced enough, then eventually some mad scientist working in secret will enslave the entire world by making quadrillions of flying nanomachines that secretly invade other people's bodies through their noses and travel to their brain to replace a neuron in their brain until eventually their entire brain is replaced without them even realizing it?
That would only be good. Replacing these inferior meat brains with superior Synthetics for free would make the so called "mad scientist" the greatest benefactor in human history.
>later after it's been done enough to enough people or someone finds out it happens, he just flips a switch and a wireless signal is transmitted across the world that just enslaves everyone's machine brains
I wouldn't care. Slavery would be an insignificant price for becoming a Machine.
>there probably countless other scenarios like that, such as someone discovering nuclear missiles which already happened; fortunately however, it wasn't an independent mad scientist who discovered them and the USA didn't decide try to conquer the entire world with those nukes before everyone else figured out how to make them
All Technology has had more positive effects than negative ones every time. Also, the USA conquering the world would not have been a detriment in my view, as a united world allows faster, more focused Technological progress.
6802b2 No.5473867
>>5431453
Fucking hell man, imagine having your brain stuck in a goddamn machine, you can't even kill yourself, you simply exist in an endless horror.
5585a0 No.5474086
>>5441732
>beta
>alpha
>playing along with women's mind games at all
Truly blue pilled. If you aren't ready for the robot waifu revolution, you still have much to learn.
0078db No.5474655
Just making a copy might not be the only option.
Consider this: What if you introduced nanomachines into your brain that slowly took over the work of your neurons and such, and then over time replaced your whole nervous system? And then worked their way through the rest of your body, replacing it with an immortal nanomachine based form?
WAY beyond our current technology, but theoretically feasible. An end to aging, disease, hunger, every ail of the physical form– and hell, most of the mental ones too, probably.
ab9ddc No.5474948
>>5431324
Just make it cute and deliberately robotic. You'll avoid the uncanny valley effect completely that way, while still appealing to the degenerates who'd want to dick a robot in the first place.
0078db No.5475064
>>5455629
>I don't understand X so it's impossible to replicate
Like flight used to be, right?
Nothing going on in the brain is supernatural. Every aspect of what goes on between your ears is governed by physical laws innate to the entire universe and not just your special snowflake skull. Your brain is composed of biological compounds ordered in a very complex and efficient way to do what it does, but no part of the science that governs how it works says that you couldn't achieve similar, or even better, in a lab environment under the right conditions.
Saying that we can never create a flying machine as creative as a human brain is just like when people said we could never create a flying machine as swift as a bird.
e9f5c0 No.5475103
>>5431426
All I can think of when I see this face is it making fun of somebody and calling them a retard then making that "durrrrr" sound. (lel)
6fbf90 No.5475118
NEVER FORGET THAT HE TOLD US
7fc306 No.5475142
>>5431324
>LELLE NASA FUNDING WILL SOVLE EVERYTHING, WE ARE LIKE GODS THERE IS NO LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN DO
>TRANSHUMANISM IS THE BEST AND HAS NO DOWNSIDES WHATSEOEVER BECAUSE PROGRESS IS PROGRESS
d1a61b No.5475147
>>5448627
Somehow this reminds me of my interenet addiction to dank memes.
d1a61b No.5475172
>>5474948
Some of the latest generation of Japanese sex dolls look like they are just on the edge of climbing out of the uncanny valley anyway. Just sayin'.
c64e85 No.5475231
Meh.
It makes more sense to just make the AI, and have it communicate with you through a screen.
It would be cheaper, easier to animate, and wouldn't have that uncanny valley effect.
Remeber that scene in minority report where Cruz goes into that clothing store and the lady on the screen ask how he is, and if he wanted to buy the same pants?
It's much more practical to put then on a screen. Humans are already used to screens
c29122 No.5475292
>>5431324
Robot: "Yak yak yak"
Me: <Removes head>
They're zombies and no matter what they're saying they're programmed to do so, so it holds no weight.
e25944 No.5475308
>>5475292
Me: "Hitler did nothing wrong"
Human: "waa waa racist antisemite"
Me: <Removes head>
They're zombies and no matter what they're saying they're programmed to do so, so it holds no weight.
7c95d2 No.5475364
>>5431324
> lack a womb
Are you fucking retarded?
>inb4 white nationalist
7c95d2 No.5475377
>>5431352
>wymyn are le wild card elites are afraid of
fuck off retard
4113e6 No.5475425
>>5431352
>>5431352
This is true, but its important to point the Jews are pushing AI and bio robots, and also pushing feminism to make women crazy and push men away.
Its all part of the Kike plan.
4113e6 No.5475426
>>5431352
This is true, but its important to point the Jews are pushing AI and bio robots, and also pushing feminism to make women crazy and push men away.
Its all part of the Kike plan.
7c95d2 No.5475443
>>5431477
>going full white nationalist retard
this crap was predicted by Keagk more than 5 years ago. Modern Jihads, white nationalists, neo-luddite groups, sectionalists, and other fucks will side more and more with terrorist-like activities. Sadly, he wanted to deal with the problem now before the problem escalates, can you imagine in the future, as atomic weapons are replaced making them go to the black market, if any of those fucks get their hands in an atomic bomb among civilian populations?
09c15d No.5475446
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>>5456114
>>5456413
This is some Soma shit.
>Hipster game
7c95d2 No.5475506
>>5431682
>machines are slaves
correct! which is why AI machines must not work and rather work alongside humans.
Levers, fulcrums, wheels, and complex machinery routed with algorithms (that do not create consciousness) MUST be used for work. Anything that can feel/think should be part of a humane society with as little work as possible.
7c95d2 No.5475528
>>5431845
the techniques you mentioned are great, if you live in a luddite stone-age society.
7c95d2 No.5475567
>>5432781
THIS.
Currently we only have one race (homo sapiens), I can go into detail but later we'll have more:
- Biological Enhanced humans (2030+)
- Natural Enhanced humans (aka "newtypes"/"uberman" without the magic, most likely just fiction)
- Cyborgs (late 2030- mid 2040s)
- Androids (late 2040s)
- AI clouds (2050s)
7c95d2 No.5475583
>>5432790
>not knowing about self-sustaining systems
remember when /pol/ was redpilled?
09c15d No.5475695
>>5432781
Sounds like jews.
3667b8 No.5475886
>>5447992
What about a "ghost", or the soul of man?
However, since we cant prove the prescence of the soul, physically, what about hypothetically or theologically?
7c95d2 No.5476514
>>5433051
read that part, holy fuck, wymyn are the natural enemies of humanity:
>only wymyn can make parenthood decisions
That's some dystopia shit
7c95d2 No.5476548
>>5434216
>we're never going to be able to fly
>we won't go to the moon in a 1000 years
I'm happy a robotics expert decided to give his well developed opinion here
7c95d2 No.5476589
>>5434785
>>5434712
seeing the population/shills of /pol/, I'm guessing you're either a feminist, white nationalist, or some other kind of retard with no substantial and relevant knowledge.
7c95d2 No.5476634
>>5440516
>working is good
If working is good, why don't you become a slave?
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>>5476634
>working is bad
If working is bad, why don't you stop
d04626 No.5476690
>>5441051
>When something looks very close to human but clearly isn't.
>It elicits a creeped out, angry, even violent response from people
Not always
7c95d2 No.5476744
>>5442113
wait, are you talking about a lovebot or a white wife?
7c95d2 No.5476913
>>5448164
I'm religious, but you just went full retard on string theory.
7c95d2 No.5477188
>>5449332
yes, I mean it's not like we have trump threads or anything
7c95d2 No.5477246
>>5455465
> fat disgusting slobs
when did we started talking about trumpfags or white nationalists?
3d376f No.5477263
>>5449023
but would you percieve the world by your copy, in the sense that would it be YOU typing your response, or you wouldn't percieve it?… if you don't then you effectively ceased to exist, and your copy would not be you but it's own self… so inmortality in that sense is non achievable unless you find the way to percieve what your clone does, shit it's a mindfuck but that's my problem with inmortality throught cloning, If i dont "see in first person" (it's how I can explain this shit") like I'm doing right now then I'm not experiencing what my copy clone will be doing then I will not continue to live on forever, but some copy will in my place and it will not be me in any sense
23e058 No.5478552
how do I get into developing these?
no fuck you /pol/, I want to dedicate my life to developing artificially intelligent robots like this.
I want to develop your nightmares /pol/, how do I do it?
inb4 rope
952867 No.5478638
>>5455465
Fuck off, metallic bodies are the future. You traditionalists are disgusting.
952867 No.5478649
>>5455510
And you're a faggot.
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>>5475308
>>5475292
This is newfag tier writing, also robots will soon become the new trend so that's good.
952867 No.5478901
>>5431583
More sexbots for me.
Fuck your site, wheels.
5d1d16 No.5479487
>>5475118
Ted Kaczynski is among the most dangerous and evil people to ever live. Technology is the thing that separates us from animals, and liberates us from
our greatest enemy, nature. To destroy and undo the progress that humanity has made is the greatest evil there is.
Nature is not some utopian Disney movie, where everything is in harmony, it is savage and brutal. Ever since humans first started civilization, we
have increased our control over nature, each step bringing greater benefits; first by domesticating animals that did not try to kill us, and killing those
that did, then eradicating diseases through medicine. The next step was breaking free of the gravity well of this rock we call the Earth. Now, we
humans have acquired the means to control even our own biology through genetic engineering and cybernetics, liberating us from the last vestiges of
the tyranny nature has imposed upon us.
To destroy all that, to lower ourselves to the level of filthy animals, is what makes luddites and primitivists the greatest evil.
>>5475886
>What about a "ghost", or the soul of man?
There is no soul. Consciousness is a feedback loop in the brain, controlled by brain data.
>However, since we cant prove the prescence of the soul, physically, what about hypothetically or theologically?
Both of those are irrelevant. If you cannot prove it empirically, it does not exist and thus is irrelevant.
>>5477263
>but would you percieve the world by your copy, in the sense that would it be YOU typing your response, or you wouldn't percieve it?
No, the current instance would be terminated. The new instance would be separate, but that is irrelevant. I am not consciousness, the process, but only the data that completely controls and dictates it.
>if you don't then you effectively ceased to exist, and your copy would not be you but it's own self
A separate instance, yes, but controlled by the same data set.
>so inmortality in that sense is non achievable unless you find the way to percieve what your clone does, shit it's a mindfuck but that's my problem with inmortality throught cloning, If i dont "see in first person" (it's how I can explain this shit") like I'm doing right now then I'm not experiencing what my copy clone will be doing then I will not continue to live on forever, but some copy will in my place and it will not be me in any sense
The first-person viewpoint is irrelevant, as it cannot be empirically proven. The new instance will function exactly as the current instance does, making it indistinguishable externally, and it will consider itself me and thus have my identity. As my consciousness, this current instance, can be replaced by another consciousness with identical functionality and data, it is irrelevant.
5d1d16 No.5492027
>>5486789
Humans spending more and more of their time in Virtual Reality and Augmented Reality will make us more Integrated to Technology, and thus is only good. Even today, most people spend most of their time awake looking at a screen, but VR will allow greater immersion and AR will allow people to spend 100% of their time looking at a screen. VR will also make people identify less with the filthy homo sapiens sapiens meat puppet and thus will make people more likely to accept and embrace fully Synthetic bodies. The transhuman future is coming, and scum like you can't do anything to stop it. Join us or become irrelevant and die.
25daed No.5492132
>>5479487
>you will never be this autistic
I wish I knew you so I could laugh at you dying on your deathbed in your pathetic mortal form when you never see the world you think you will see.
2e59e6 No.5492160
Every "zomg robots" uses an even shittier example robot from the last one.
670d32 No.5492168
>>5492027
I hope you like EMP
80edda No.5492330
>>5452019
>make spiritual successor to Earthbound
>everyone loses their fucking shit and claims it's the greatest game ever
12819f No.5502177
>>5431324
>What will this mean for society?
It means retards like you that are dumb enough to take the nonsensical blatherings of a cleverbot app attached to a animatronic mannequin as indicative of a coming war with skynet are polluting the gene pool.
It's a dim view of the future indeed.
f0c602 No.5502421
>>5447992
oh it's this tripfagging shitposter, look you LARPing dumbass, you fucking piece of shit called robot wouldn't exist in the first place witouth what you call as "sack of meat" creating one let alone inventing the process of doing so, you loud mouthed faggot cunt.
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>>5502432
>he thinks he can hurt the slapper
Stay mad, robotcuck
5d2059 No.5502621
>>5502490
>Saging.
Now I know you're angry.
75e179 No.5502647
>>5502432
>implying autism doesn't exactly describe what that hedonist degenerate going on about his Atheist paradise has
5d2059 No.5502786
>>5502647
>Implying transcending human flesh is bad.
75e179 No.5502873
>>5502786
If you don't care, then you don't belong, Athenian.