/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

it's really symptomatic for all the left they're the new "nazis"

Because leftists truly believe that socialism can work in a multicultural society without conflict between groups leading to nationalism in each and the majority group claiming power over others which is exactly what caused the breakup of Yugoslavia and the disillusion of smaller countries in the USSR as their majority populations became nationalist leading to the collapse of the Soviet union as a whole.

Socialism can work in ethnically homogeneous countries though and Baathism was extremely successful in Iraq as a variant of socialism although it was decidedly right wing and the state could pay for welfare with funding from oil money without having to resort to near slave labor like China and Saddam made his people rich as he shared oil profits.

>>5432281

>starts off immediately with emotional appeal

Stopped reading.

>>5432268

It's the censoring that I don't understand from the left. They want to be babysat by thought police.

Because they believe being condescending is "winning". That is all they have. It isn't much and when you can shut them down with facts they have a meltdown.

check out millenial woe's video 'the left's tricks' he explains nicely

>>5432301

Again, they need protection from anything that will trigger their emotional response. In controls theory, it's like a positive feedback loop that generates an emotional overload in their brains. They no longer have a function logic center, so censoring protects them from being triggered into said reaction.

Nature would have purged them because of their inability to survive without civilization to protect them, emotional defects are the consequence of a civilization allowing them to thrive outside the normal natural selection mechanisms.

If it's any consolation, if there's ever a truly world destruction event in which humanity is massively wiped out, the overwhelming majority of any survivors with this emotional defect will go extinct quickly.

>>5432311

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ9uo70xzww

>>5432335

Are there ways to deprogram people like this? It's almost like a bizarre cult.

>>5432365

I don't think it's worth the effort to even try, their neural pathways and brain centers are physically wired to be emotional bitches.

Nature will purge them in due time.

>How did their programming become so strong

These are the inferior humans that exist solely because this civilization protects them. They're polluting our gene pool. I'm starting to like the sound of "WWIII." There is no longer natural selection. We need to clean the gene pool of the inferior rats.

>>5432246

You're taking them at face value. They barely believe anything they preach, and insofar as they do it is only so long as it is beneficial to their cause. Even their proponents and protected classes are sacrificed when it serves the greater good of the movement. It is easy to see that calls for feminist "equality" really mean tearing down men, but one must also see that it not only does not raise up women, it pushes them down. It forces them into misery, into slavery, and sacrifices them when necessary. Anti-racism is just the same, tearing down whites whilst simultaneously both patronizing and robbing the nonwhites of moral agency and encouraging them to practice self-destruction. Homosexuals are used coldly and cruelly as tools against healthy sexual relations and families while the lies of self-destructive hedonism are whispered in their ears. Class-warfare (or socialism, or Marxism, or whatever you want to call it) is too used as a tool for demolishing small businesses, eliminating competition, and centralizing control whilst somehow never being able to really tackle problems like large corporations, abuse of workers, or the inability of our current economy to move the nation in a prosperous direction. A tool, you must see. Promoted when it is useful for destroying enemies, ignored and discarded as soon as it might come close to going against the true goals of its masters. Everywhere throughout leftism it is the same. Has anyone ever seen a leftist movement — a sect or arm of what we might call "progressivism" or just "leftism" — campaign or promote individuals based on their ideals? No. The individuals they promote are packaged and atomized attacks against their enemies, not promotions in and of themselves. It is only when a woman is "striking a blow against the patriarchy," a homosexual "rolling back heteronormativity," an antitheist "destroying oppressive tradition," a group of nonwhites "fighting white privilege," a socialist "empowering the people [that is, the government]," a leftist "fighting hate" that they are celebrated, promoted, or in anyway recognized. Only when they further the goals of the Masters of Leftism.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Or, in plain English, judge what they do, not what they say.

But what of the middle-ranks? Those sorry fools not in control but in charge of disseminating and spreading the faith amongst the masses? I am convinced that they do it simply as a need. These are people with such low self-esteem that they feel that, without the faith to promote, they are purposeless in this world. The kind of zealots that have (and will always exist) but hideously repurposed. They need to feel as if they are impacting the world, as if they are spreading good to people, just the same as any other universalist religion. They need the validation.

This is why they are so condescending. They do not see you as a moral agent, or even as just one of differing opinion. Either they see you as one of the unconverted masses too stupid to really appreciate the faith but needing to accept it all the same, or they see you as an outright agent of evil, one who has come to work directly against the forces of good, one who is not capable of being converted, but must at any costs be destroyed. You are to them either one of the sheep, or you are a wolf incapable of going against your instincts to prey on the flock. Either they will give you condescension of the most repugnant variety or — if you give them reason enough to believe you a threat, rather than perhaps just a simpleton easily swayed by arguments of the evil — outright hatred, derision, calls for death and destruction, or (if you succeed enough) genuine and soul-crushing fear (of the apocalypse-herald variety). When you win you are not merely promoting a different worldview, you are a representation that evil is winning, and that they themselves have lost not just their battles but their purpose for being as well.

TL;DR: They're fucking nuts, man.

why do you care? why do you appeal to fairness like a weakling? do you think trump sits around pondering why the left isnt fair?

who cares about the left, they're nothing and their time has ended and we will not be 'fair' to them.

>>5432586

i know that redditors and our less informed friends on 4cuck are loathe to associate hitler with trump but trump does bare a lot of similarities with hitler - thing is, theres nothing wrong with that.

>>5432586

To what is this a reference?

>>5432281

>net neutrality the first issue on his list

>>5432591

As far as economic policies go they could not be further apart though, Hitler still believed in a state controlled economy which kept total power over imports and exports.

>>5432365

It's exactly a cult, anon. At least for the middle-men. For the plebs on the bottom it's probably about gibsmedat, while for the top it's basically gibsmedat (but for power) and a destruction of enemies and the ability of new enemies to form.

>>5432600

https://youtu.be/YU3vcvGpALQ

>>5432620

https://youtu.be/YU3vcvGpALQ?t=8m40s

>>5432295

Even one of the favorites of leftists, the zapatistas, have a "vokisch" flavor to them.

>>5432617

trump is much more aligned with hitler on economics than his GOP rivals, the similarities are obvviously much broader than that as well.

read some http://anonymousconservative.com/

>>5432618

>For the plebs on the bottom it's probably about gibsmedat

Although it definitely isn't applicable in all regions or Europe/US what is wrong with sharing the profits of a resource that costs little to produce and generates immense profits like oil which generates most profit in the middle east, doing so also prevents those at the top from gaining excessive power via monopolizing a primary resource also

>>5432633

>trump is much more aligned with hitler on economics than his GOP rivals

How?

He might have a lot more nationalist rhetoric but it explicitly supports the unrestricted free market, for example Trumps plan to reduce medicine costs by reducing the influence of US drug companies which obviously entails importing generic drugs from India at much lower costs whereas Hitler only believed in trading with countries within the German sphere of interest to make them more dependent on Germany.

>>5432268

Thank you Baymax

>>5432665

>sharing

You need to learn the difference between sharing and taking by force.

>>5432667

>>5432665

are you just splitting hairs because you're autistic or what? one example: trump supports medicaid and social security, two things that he greatly differs from with the rest of the GOP field and much more in line with hitler. this is a scale of 'similar' to 'not at all similar,' it is not a matter of he either is exactly LITERALLY HITLER or NO WAY HES NOT HITLER HES NOT EVEN GERMAN.

do you get it now, you fucking autistic contrarian?

>>5432665

>Although it definitely isn't applicable in all regions or Europe/US what is wrong with sharing the profits of a resource that costs little to produce and generates immense profits like oil which generates most profit in the middle east, doing so also prevents those at the top from gaining excessive power via monopolizing a primary resource also

Because you can't very well redistribute something without involving large concentrations of powers, which is tried and true way of fucking things up.

Moreover I'm not a believer in giving things to people who don't deserve them, or in encouraging the idea that there is any such thing as "free" things.

It's one thing to use the profits of a nationalized industry to fund social programs (which are debatably good) or to highly tax richer elements (even more debatably good), but outright confiscating or redistributing wealth is a recipe for disaster.

Sage because this isn't related to the thread.

>>5432365

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/k-shift-in-scientific-study/

>>5432665

>supports the unrestricted free market

You ever heard Trump talk about tariffs? Tariffs are not free market. I agree in general though, his economic policy isn't close to Hitler's. I doubt Trump will end the FED and the international bankers like Hitler did. Trump has made some dogwhistles about the bankers and the FED.

Trump is hiding his power level. Is his power level full /pol/ status? I don't believe so

>>5432691

He's talked about auditing the Fed which is a step closer to ending it, but I don't believe he will either.

Honestly I think we're past a point where the system can be changed without totally collapsing it. It's just so fucked on a fundamental level that changing it means destroying the foundations, which will necessarily collapse everything built on top of them. And destroying all of that is a risk, but probably a risk we'll have to take.

I thought it was because leftism is crammed into every nook and cranny of academia therefore anybody who doesn't believe what they do is merely uneducated.

Leftism allows them to simultaneously see the hypocrisy of the Right whilst remaining protected from their own since, if everything is relative, they can't be hypocrites.

>>5432679

nobody is being stolen from under Baathism, the state simply doesn't get all profits from oil sales and has to nationalize oil fields rather than selling them to foreign markets

>>5432684

>one example: trump supports medicaid and social security, two things that he greatly differs from with the rest of the GOP field

Kaisch and many others also support both medicaid and social security

>>5432686

>It's one thing to use the profits of a nationalized industry to fund social programs (which are debatably good)

that is exactly what Iraq did

>>5432691

>Tariffs are not free market. I agree in general though, his economic policy isn't close to Hitler's. I doubt Trump will end the FED and the international bankers like Hitler did. Trump has made some dogwhistles about the bankers and the FED.

I agree but tariffs have historically always been a part of the free market depending on who you ask, mostly only neoclassical analysts view tariffs as against it

>>5432710

>that is exactly what Iraq did

Yes, and there's not anything wrong with that in and of itself, but it is predicated on the assumption that nationalization of industry is good in the first place, which I'm not convinced is true.

>>5432281

>Sanders is against the patriot act

>Sanders vote yea on the patriot act

Lol wat

>>5432726

You won't hear any disagreement from me. As far as I can tell they are as close as we get in this world to actual, pure evil. How much more evil can you get to not only promote the self-destruction and evil of some in order to destroy and ensure the evil of others all whilst profiting off of the whole rotten business? I can't really think of anything much more evil than that.

>>5432719

I really can't hear what he's saying in that webm, could some kind anon give me a transcript?

http://ga.video.cdn.pbs.org/videos/frontline/a5a40cc6-b20a-44fe-9ada-a5ec55402c53/192286/hd-mezzanine-16x9/b862c3f8_00003401v2-16x9-mp4-baseline.mp4

*growing up trans PBS POZ Frontline

>>5432746

>Trump: Talking about the previous question concerning the bible

>Trump: Go ahead, go ahead

>Audience: You might not even know the answer-

>T: Okay

>A: Most Americans don't. Can you tell us, the three countries on the face of the planet that are not in the world banking system? I'll tell you a few.

>T: You tell me, go ahead.

>A: North Korea.

>T: Right

>A: Iran.

>T: Right

>A: And Cuba.

>T: And there's another one.

>A: Is there?

>T: Yeah. [laughs] Very good. Good thank you.

because they are the same religious faggots trying to destroy the White man, they just have a different strategy. Instead of "sinner" "heathen" and "blasphemer" you have "racist' "sexist" and "homophobe". Instead of priests you have media pundits, celebrities and school teachers. Instead of everyone being FORCED to go to church everyone is FORCED to go to government school (homeschooling is impossible for the vast majority of people because both parents have to work full time) Instead of the bible we have whatever bullshit they publish and make everyone read in school like Ann Frank or Roots. Instead of Kings and Dukes who need to be blessed by the priest class we have politicians who need to be blessed by the media/teacher class. When these people are challenged they react in a nonthinking religious violence just like christians of old. People are already getting assaulted, going to jail and losing their jobs for wrong think and pretty soon we will have torture and executions for wrong think just like christians of old. Instead of the god jesus we have "diversity" Instead of the devil we have the the heterosexual White Man.

The west hasn't become less religious, it has just replaced the old globalist anti White jewish created cult with a new one

>>5432791

Syria?

>>5432803

Not for long.

>>5432246

because they're narcissists lacking the self-awareness to realize that rationalizing your emotions is not the same as rational thinking

>>5432281

>and you need to know why

into the trash it goes

>>5432687

I'm not sure how to make sense of militant leftists. It explains a great number of people otherwise.

>>5432719

I want to believe so hard that Trump is full /pol/

I could imagine Trump taking us out of the world banking system and pulling all our military back to the states and dumping Israel like a bad girlfriend before I can see him purging the USA of non Whites.

I wish he would but, I don't think he will make America an explicitly White country.

I want to believe so hard

>>5432719

If Trump does go full /pol/ I'm ready to fight. Shit, I'm ready to fight right now just for a fucking wall and a muslim ban and nationalist economic policy and the first president since the creation of Israel to be neutral in the jew-arab war.

>>5432858

>I recently came to realize this when a relative went through a personal crisis. The leftist friends this person had promised to take care of them, and do everything they could to help. Not one of them did though. No, they always had a reason why they couldn't do anything, When people called them out on it they would scream and accuse the person of being insensitive, uncaring, and abusive.

>They are horrible people who want a positive public image at any cost.

this combined with

>>5432295

>Because leftists truly believe that socialism can work in a multicultural society without conflict between groups leading to nationalism in each and the majority group claiming power over others which is exactly what caused the breakup of Yugoslavia and the disillusion of smaller countries in the USSR as their majority populations became nationalist leading to the collapse of the Soviet union as a whole.

is how you explain

>>5432835

>I'm not sure how to make sense of militant leftists

who try to maintain that view of public image through forced secularism via the military/police at the expense of individuality for all other groups which only increases nationalism and creates a self destructive cycle

>>5432271

Haha, they'd wish.

>>5432889

secularism and other various forms of forced tolerance*

>>5432549

this post is pretty great tbh

>>5432791

>>5432719

It's strange how he doesn't say "Syria" though. He just moves on. Maybe he knows that humans have a psycological need to complete things or "fill in the blanks." Maybe he wants people to find out for themselves.

>>5432975

thank you

>>5432591

>but trump does bare a lot of similarities with hitler

interestingly enough if we go with this argument (comparing Hitler's rise to Trump's rise) it will only further accentuate how leftards absolutely fail to grasp the reasons and dynamics at play regarding these events.

they will make the comparison between Trump and Hitler as an emotional appeal designed for manipulation as opposed to the conclusion of a rational thought process, which is why they will act incredulous when pressed to explain their reasoning.

they will tell you that it's so obvious it "shouldn't have to be explained" when in reality they're just trying to conceal the fact that they have no understanding of any aspect of their argument because they're just parroting their cult's dogma.

>>5432549

Zealotry from escaping purposelessness…

Huh.

I had a similar thought awhile ago.

People as a whole (and particularly the left) are intensely aware of their own smallness, of their own insignificance. So they have to find some god, some ideology, some justifier. Even if they don't truly believe in it. They really don't feel they have to clout to demand life has any point of its own for them, they have to seek a singular one, or have one handed down.

Sort of a general thing, but it does seem to apply.

>>5432281

>Then I'm sure you can easily beat this guy's points.

Here's the thing, had you some knowledge of philosophy you'd understand that arguing from a bunch of alleged facts to a normative conclusion isn't valid. So the first retort to your reddit post is the lack of a moral argument as to why someone should do something along with the alleged facts of the matter. There is no moral argument in the premises of his post, hence he cannot implicitly conclude, which is exactly he does with a suppressed normative conclusion, with an exhortation to do something (and you should not be moved by the force of his argument, if you're committed to good reasoning). So, I could reject that argument straight up without even considering the alleged facts on the issue.

Here are some other aspects.

The argument, abstracting away from some minor details, is set up as:

(1) Trump or Sanders.

(2) Not(Trump).

(3) Therefore, Sanders.

That's typically valid, as it's disjunctive syllogism. But it's a bad argument, as you can come up with plenty of sub-arguments for:

(4) Not(Sanders).

As well (see any Sander's thread).

So even if (1) and (2) is true, and you show (4), you'd end up objectively concluding:

(5) Not(Trump) and Not(Sanders) via: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_introduction

Not the conclusion in (3) alone.

The other structural argument being made is one of identity. They are saying that Trump and Sanders differ in their properties/qualities. Namely, that they differ in their belief sets. Suppose you have a set of beliefs, call an element of this belief set B(x(n)). It's saying that the set of things that Sanders believes, call this set S such that S = {B(s(1)), B(s(2)), … B(s(n))} differs from the set of things that Trump believes, call this set T such that T = {B(t(1)), B(t(2)), …, B(t(n))}. So, S does not equal T. In plain language, as in the post, their beliefs are different. What exactly are you trying to prove here? It's tautologically true that they differ in their belief sets. Really, the post amounts to rhetoric towards a specific audience, and this is even proven in the way the reddit post is set up. Notice that the guy mostly judges the complete Trump belief sets of T as the negations of Sander's belief 'set S, e.g. in several of his sections he looks for B(s(n) (a Bernie belief) in T' (Trump's set) purely to set up the idea that it is the negation of the belief or lacking a belief (look at how many of sentences are of the kind, "this isn't found on Trump's website"). If you want me to drop a fallacy here, he's almost begging the question by assuming what he needs to prove. It's a methodologically shit argument. And again, it's a tautology that they are different.

More importantly, the belief sets miss an important characteristic. To say something is a belief is to have a propositional attitude to something, it doesn't make it true or justify the belief. Just because Bernie has belief B(s1), doesn't entail that B(s1) is a true belief about the world and that Bernie is justified in believing it. None of that in the post is examined in any way. The only time this is done is to attack elements of T, which again shows that the guy is not trying to be impartial. In fact, this a critical weakness in the post: the sub-arguments aren't actually arguments. They are descriptions of belief sets. So the argument isn't just the disjunctive syllogism above. It's that they've presented set S and presented set T, then concluded that they are different not through argument, but by description. It's never considered, is this belief set S wrong? Nor the larger issue of whether this is an actual argument or not.

I was going to start nitpicking some of the beliefs the guy has described, but I couldn't be bothered, as overall it's a methodologically shit post, and it can be shown to be a bad normative argument, a bad inference (if you grant the inference), and the sub-arguments are descriptions that don't have that much meat to them (with respect to truth and justification). That's enough for me to reject the post, or "beat" his argument (since you see arguments are some sort of reddit-tier status striving game).

>>5433066

>So they have to find some god, some ideology, some justifier

While I agree, I also think this is partially a symptom of rejection religion. Obviously most can't actually do so as they lack the mental faculties and instead latch onto a new religion (progressivism) which is just as faith-based as the religion (usually Christianity) they left for being illogical and faith-based. I don't honestly think many people have the ability to function in life without some sort of religion. I think it was CS Lewis who said something along the lines of "Strip a man of his gods and he will make new ones." In the case of leftists these gods tend to be unanthropomorphic (that is, vague and impersonal) ones such as "equality" or "tolerance." Other leftists just seem to where their previous religion as a thin veneer, when their real religion is progressivism, perhaps muddied hellishly with some amount of theology from a pre-existing faith (Christianity and Buddhism are the worst in this regard, as far as I can tell; one need only look at Christian feminism to see all they need to know).

>They really don't feel they have to clout to demand life has any point of its own for them, they have to seek a singular one, or have one handed down.

Indeed. To a point I think it's part of the larger rejection of nature that leftists partake in. If you think about it all of leftism really is a profound and total rejection of all that might be deemed "true," to the point that they reject the concept of truth itself. In this case instead of making peace with the reality that they will never themselves be gods, and even moreso that most of them will never be important, they strive to reject this reality and perhaps blind themselves for a time against something that ebbs and wears ineluctably against the mental shields they construct to protect themselves from it. Instead of accepting their lot in life leftists have to reject it all; in a most profound sense they are simply greedy, demanding more from life than what they have been given, most often because they have been fed lies from childhood that they could and either outright believe them or can't afford not to, lest they destroy themselves and everything they are.

I think this applies to all leftism, at least on the level of a true believer in it, rather than someone cynically using leftism as a tool for their own ends. Homosexuals reject the reality that they will never be equivalent to heterosexual unions; they won't have families, and this will remain the truth no matter how much they try to adopt, imitate, or fool themselves. As one post around here put it (on the issue of gay "marriage") they'll fall asleep knowing in their hearts they will never have a real marriage, because they reality they live in dictates it to be so. Trannies too reject the supreme reality that they will never be the opposite sex; feminists that they will never have the prestige of men and the benefits of femininity; nonwhites the power and nobility of whites; socialist gibsmedat folk the industriousness and intelligence to make their own fortunes. They reject what life has given them in every possible way.

I don't really find it surprising that they also then reject the truth of their own smallness; of the fact that they, as an individual, will never ascend to the heights of divinity as promised to them as children.

>>5432829

>because they're narcissists lacking the self-awareness to realize that rationalizing your emotions is not the same as rational thinking

It seems like some type of personality disorder or something, I can't really put my finger on it. Everyone from Rachel Maddow right down to the ground-level foot-soldiers behave in almost the exact same way with the exact same quirks.

Leftist ideas seem to attract (or create) a very specific personality type. The snarky, hyper-emotional, condescendingly cynical know-it-all attitude is how they feel in "control" while holding the worldview of a child.

>>5432889

Ones who sieze power make sense because that's a whole different relationship where they're in control. I meant militant as in people who don't seem conflict-averse but have politics as if they do. Maybe they're just brave within the framework they live in but can't bear to think about conflict on a civilizational level.

>>5433171

>Maybe they're just brave within the framework they live in but can't bear to think about conflict on a civilizational level.

I agree with this, they seem naive or mentally weak on an emotional level.

>>5432246

READ

THE

COMMUNIST

MANIFESTO

>>5432591

yes, and we really hope that he is, but it's not politically expedient to say that.

>>5432246

I've been feeling like this for a long time but I never know how to put it into words. Whenever I watch one of those horrible come talk shows on TV they just seem to reek with some kind of smugness that drives me nuts. And I always see liberals on facebook being all smug, posting shit from the onion and collegehumor and stuff like that. I guess it always feels like they hide behind "humor" instead of directly confronting the issues and act like they won because they're more clever.

I don't know, I still don't know how to explain it. I saw this other segment, forget the show, but this woman was interviewing Trump supporters, and after their responses she gave this exaggerated look of disbelief at how "dumb" they were. It's like they see the other side as cute little animals that don't know any better.

>>5433261

They're laughing at something because it scares them but they're in denial of it. The common thought I keep seeing is "Trump used to just be funny but now it's getting really scary guys"

>>5433284

Prime example:

>>5412449

>>5433291

>Because they're apolitical.

>They're not political in any way. Leftists who are will either obfuscate or debate. Communists are actually much better discussion partners than progressives, despite the fact they deserve the noose.

See >>5433206

>>5433080

man I don't really understand the details of what you're saying - I obviously need to know a lot more about the mechanics of philosophy - but I do get the gist of it and I'm glad you're saying it.

Of course, it's possible the cuck you're responding to has some brilliant retort to B you TFO, and is waiting for just the right time to unleash it. But probably not.

Because they feel morally superior?

>>5432246

Posturing to show dominance.

It is literally the beta uprising.

>>5433393

>>5433399

See >>5433206

>>5432246

simple: It allows them to surround themselves with an aura of superiority, ridiculing the other side for even thinking something different than the hot opinion of [THE CURRENT YEAR].

At the same time they dont have to argue any points since that would give credibility to the oposing point and bring themselves in the situation of having to actually defend their point. And we cant have that.

>>5433435

Again see >>5433206

>>5433406

>Read the communist manifesto

Don't have the time right now, spill the beans for us.

>>5433466

>Don't have the time right now

Yet you probably shitpost on /pol/ several hours per day.

Don't fucking post here unless you have read The Communist Manifesto. It explains everything in detail. If you're not interested in doing the work yourself then why the fuck are you here?

>>5433159

>It seems like some type of personality disorder or something

I think it's simply the inferior person's strategy to attain power.

>>5433474

How is your post relevant to the thread?

Even if its not the case that he hasn't read it. You've done nothing to convince anyone of the relevancy of your post and how it connects to the OP, or the posts you are responding to.

Please provide an argument as to how:

(1) Reading the Communist manifesto.

and:

(2) The OP's state of affairs and the various posts you are responding to with (1).

Makes the connection between (1) and (2) relevant.

>>5432281

>>5433497

Again its explained in Communist doctrines.

Instead of constantly repeating "read the communist manifesto" as a mantra why don't I tell you that Marx wrote that society always moves towards Communism and that going against Communism is going against being a civil and good society.

>>5433507

>You've done nothing to convince anyone of the relevancy of your post

>Please provide an argument

Everything you're discussing is explained by The Communist Manifesto. It is all programming by The Long March through the Institutions.

There's a reason why its required reading before posting here. It outlines the horrors inherent in Communism and tells you exactly how and why your enemy things and says like they do.

>>5433524

thinks and says like they do*

>>5432360

>AholeAtheist in the comment section.

I'm just

so angry.

>>5433524

Then quote the passages and say what's relevant instead of telling everyone to fuck off and read a dense book full of delusional, incoherent ramblings simply so they can find a few paragraphs relevant to the topic they were interested in.

Does anyone have the original video with based flannel beard guy? Been looking for it and sorry if it's been posted already in this thread

>>5433535

>68 pages

>dense

You haven't even seen the Communist Manifesto and you want to dictate what is inside of it?

>>5433524

See that wasn't so hard was it?

>Everything you're discussing is explained by The Communist Manifesto

The only other post in this thread I made was a post analyzing a redditor's post. So the "you're" part of your reference is false, as not I'm engaged with the OP or other's conversations. Nor has my analysis of his argument got anything to do with the book in question.

>There's a reason why its required reading before posting here.

I've read the book, it was required reading for political philosophy. I was asking why it was relevant to the conversation, because you were too lazy to do it in the first place.

Maybe along with reading the book there should also be a requirement for people to learn how to make their thoughts explicit and relevant. First exodus anons knew to do this. That relation of relevance between book and current context cannot be in the book can it? Unless Marx had a time machine or was Nostradamus and had visions of a Tibetan cartooning board.

So, next time, when you post the name of the book that you think is the explanation of all that is the thread, maybe make an extra sentence or two as to why it is relevant.

>>5433080

Great post, I agree, it's pure demagoguery. But there'll be a lot of people falling for it, as usual, probably buying the fallacy that to change your vote from Sanders to Trump, T must be as equal to S as possible, leaving the whole of Hillary out of the question, and your personal opinion on any range of subjects as well (after all, you're just searching for the new "Sanders", not your new candidate). This is just to complement the others points you made.

>>5433367

That mostly logic, not philosophy per se, but the strutucture of reasoning in argumentation.

>>5433524

>Instead of constantly repeating "read the communist manifesto" as a mantra why don't I tell you that Marx wrote that society always moves towards Communism and that going against Communism is going against being a civil and good society.

the discussion was about the personality type of the average leftard and why people are attracted to leftism and display certain patterns of behavior. has nothing to do with the gommunist manifesto

>>5433575

Your entire post is basically strawmanning on the fact that I used the word "everything" and then you respond that you personally have responded to a post that was irrelevant to the OP. If you weren't incredibly angry and actually thought rationally, you might have thought that I was thinking of the OP post and didn't care for childish semantics that would, on a pure technicality, mean that "everything" wasn't a 100% accurate wording.

>>5433535

>dense book

You should read it anon. It takes about one hour, 2 tops to do it, and it's available for free online.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf

You should also check this 1872 edition preface: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/preface.htm

You'll see the BS in it from a mile away, but you'll learn some specifics on how socialists and communists think, and how they manage to override as much of economic thinking with political thinking in their political economy.

>>5433601

>The brainwashing techniques that made people act a certain way has no relation as to the way those people act

Maybe calm down a bit before you post.

>>5433600

>disinfo

>saved

>>5433618

That anon is very correct. We give the left far too much credit. They aren't as political as they seem.

>>5433632

The entire left and most of the right has been coopted by radical Communist ideology and you want to tell me that they're apolitical? The entire issue and everything in the way they act is HIGHLY political and amoral.

>>5433605

>Your entire post is basically strawmanning on the fact that I used the word "everything" and then you respond that you personally have responded to a post that was irrelevant to the OP.

No, you don't understand logic and semantics. You stated, "Everything you're discussing …" I'm included in that set. "Everything" refers to a universally quantified claim over the discussion, which is the domain of discourse. "You" is a reference to a set of people that include myself. That's a referential claim. Reference is part of semantics, it refers to me in the set of things referenced, as well as the context of the discussion (you referring to my post). Your statement is false. It's not a strawman, it's an accurate logical analysis of your statement. It's not my problem you don't understand logic and deride semantics as "childish" (which really shows an uneducated view on the world, which is probably why you couldn't communicate why your posts were relevant to the discussion).

>If you weren't incredibly angry and actually thought rationally, you might have thought that I was thinking of the OP post and didn't care for childish semantics that would, on a pure technicality, mean that "everything" wasn't a 100% accurate wording.

I'm not angry, but it sounds like you are. I'm pointing out that you suck at communicating your thoughts.

You are shitting up the thread by posting the name of a book and responding to everyone with "hurrrr see" and referencing your post. To those that haven't read the book they are probably looking on with bewilderment as to what the hell you are talking about, as you've neither presented relevance nor context to what you are saying.

Now, if you have nothing else worth saying, and responded to me again like a scolded child, I will filter you.

>>5433647

That's an autistic simplification and you know it.

>>5433653

>derailing by obsessing over the word "everything" and semantics

I am not here to discuss meaningless semantics.

>>5433656

>oversimplification

You're the only one simplifying things by essentially saying "they're just stupid". Actually digging into WHY they are the way that they are is complicating things. Calling them Communistic Brainwashed people makes things more complex and you are the one simplifying things by simply calling them dumb sheeple..

How about instead of doubling down on your mistake you just admit that you might be wrong, read the Communist Manifesto and become highly embarrassed with yourself without anyone knowing who you are in the next thread. I would tell you that its human to make a mistake and so on, but I think you fear being wrong.

>>5433524

>Everything you're discussing is explained by The Communist Manifesto. It is all programming by The Long March through the Institutions.

The long march was from Gramsci, and the Communist Manifesto doesn't adequately use current context to paint a picture.

>>5433600

Thanks m8, here to check your dubs, first ever time being capped

>>5433647

It's not political though, the people that I outlined most likely haven't actually touched any communist literature. The boots on the ground have no ideological bearing.

Now the people that set these braindead leftist hordes upon us, they knew what they were doing.

>>5433688 (checked)

>How about instead of doubling down on your mistake you just admit that you might be wrong, read the Communist Manifesto and become highly embarrassed with yourself without anyone knowing who you are in the next thread. I would tell you that its human to make a mistake and so on, but I think you fear being wrong.

You're biggest fucking mistake right now. You assume we're talking about the political masters who dictate shit. We're not. We're talking about you average leftist who has their views purely because of the society they've experienced. As a result, they may as well be apolitical because they've never actually sat down and thought about their views/self-reflected/researched.

>>5433692

Your entire argument is based on the fact that if a person doesn't know what they're doing is highly political then it is apolitical. Essentially saying that a person who has never been taught not to murder cannot commit a murder.

The Communist Manifesto shows exactly why the mentality of these people today is the way that it is. Not only does it give insight into what they have been programmed to think like, but also why they have been programmed to think like that. You will never understand the liberal of today if you don't understand the baseline programming they have undergone.

>>5433721

>You assume we're talking about the political masters who dictate shit.

No.

>>5433688

>derailing by obsessing over the word "everything" and semantics

I'm not derailing. I'm showing you why your argument sucks, and originally why your posts in this thread lacked relevancy and told you how to improve on it. What's happening here is your massive ego can't handle people giving you advice.

>I am not here to discuss meaningless semantics.

Ah yes, the "meaningless semantics" redditor rebuttal. Unfortunately for you, semantics is the study of meaning, so synonymously, you are saying "the meaningless study of meaning," which seems pretty contradictory. As well as hilarious, because to say my semantics is meaningless, you would have to reference semantics itself (as it is the study of meaning), which you have no idea how to anyway, as proven by your retorts that lack any reference to semantics. Very self-referential and self-refuting little statement you've got going on there.

Filtered by the way.

>>5433739

>BLOCKED!!!

Knew you were tumblr.

>>5433722

>The Communist Manifesto shows exactly why the mentality of these people today is the way that it is.

Keep pushing this meme as hard as you can. No one here is fucking buying it.

>>5433618

again, the discussion was not about the brainwashing techniques used by communists but the relationship between leftism and human nature.

when I said leftism is the inferior person's strategy to attain power, I meant Marx too. he obviously wasn't brainwashed into leftism, he was just a piece of shit trying to live off others. no one convinced him to be that way. in fact, his life's work was him trying to rationalize being a parasite and ending up building an entire ideology around it.

>Maybe calm down a bit before you post.

maybe stop projecting a bit before you post :^)

>>5432246

When you convince someone they are fighting for justice they can be ordered to do insane and evil things, see jihadists, the catholic church, nazis, anyone in the IDF, the list goes on.

>>5433763

you got blown the fuck out tbh fam

>>5433080

Show off.

>>5433782

>again, the discussion was not about the brainwashing techniques used by communists but the relationship between leftism and human nature.

In the amount of time you have been in this thread you could have read the Communist Manifesto and seen exactly that relationship. But more importantly that the relationship between leftism and human nurture is far more important.

>>5433786

>niggerspeak

tumblr please calm down.

>>5433780

Yes being pointed to the answers to everything you're discussing is definitely a meme.

The same reason any other self-righteous zealot turns out that way.

>>5433815

so you'll just keep circling back to your "read the communist manifesto" argument without explaining its relevance to the topic at hand

>>5432586

Jesus he looks like Jennifer Garner.

>>5433722

No, you're misunderstanding. The intentions behind this are obviously subversive in nature. The people practicing it are in no way political. The dogma is a part of their reality. The top echelons are rotten to the core, the people who practice it are just going along their terrible lives because they don't question anything. They don't question because that option is never something that presents itself.

>>5432246

Leftism has always been about people of a lower social caste climbing higher. From the outset it was the bourgeois trying to usurp the power of the aristocracy.

The whole point is to attain a higher social standing. So of course leftist leaders condescend / insult everyone as beneath them.

They brainwash their idiot legions of stooges to respond this way as well. The useful idiots, by denigrating nonleftists, help to maintain the left leadership's social status.

The brainwashed masses actually believe that all rightwing ideas are below them. That's how they were programmed, and can't think any differently about it.

While the leftist leaders might think that or might not, but most of them advance that narrative for the sake of their own social standing.

>>5433874

Yes I will keep circling back to it because as I have explained it is exactly there you will find out all the answers people are looking for.

It is not my fault that you consistently refuse to accept that I have explained this in detail.

>>5433886

I understand it perfectly.

You just don't want to believe that something can be political unless the person is politically educated or in some other form knows exactly how politically charged and politically important the things that they do are.

People don't become apolitical just because they don't know they're being political.

The left are condescending because they have the media behind them. That's it. They think they have the entire world backing them up, so they're not afraid to act smug and arrogant. And when they behave badly, it's excused by the media and their other liberal friends, so their behavior is reinforced.

>>5433782

>leftism is the inferior person's strategy to attain power

Remember that inferiority and superiority are relative. You're inferior at something, to someone else. Same with superior.

Leftists tend to be superior at sophistry, propaganda, oratory, rhetoric. In the modern age of the printing press they saw a newly literate mass of useful idiots they could beguile. So they did.

Leftists are quite superior at manipulating and deceiving others. They're superior at organizing and getting masses of ignorant people to serve as their cronies.

The leftist leadership has always come principally from the bourgeoisie. So they tend to be quite skilled at merchanty activities - doing business, managing money, etc.

What they're inferior at, is living a life of honor and virtue. Every society needs a degree of virtue, to hold it together. Leftists have been pushing society to become more and more immoral, less masculine. They've abandoned the virtues of longsuffering and composure, in favor of whining, snark, and riots.

Most societies that embark down this path fall apart quite quickly. (Leftists are also inferior at seeing the big picture, thinking only of the near future.) But our modern technology has allowed our society to endure more degeneracy and immorality than any in recorded history.

We're reaching the limits of tech's ability to offset degeneracy now. In fact we've arrived at a point where tech is accelerating the decline, instead of mitigating it.

What we on the right need to be able to do is beat the left at their own game. Become superior to them at the things they're superior to us at. Out organize, out propagandize, and outframe them.

Older generations of rightists don't seem to get that. I have hope for /pol/ and the alt-right. We don't have any problem with turning Saul Alinksky's playbook against them. Which is what we need to do if we want to win.

>>5432281

There is only one issue. I would vote for an 80 IQ homeless man who just escaped from a mental institution if I was reasonably confident he'd close the borders.

>>5432719

I have said for a while that North Korea isn't an enemy. They just want to be left the fuck alone.

>>5433869

Kikes happened.

>>5433967

This. Everyone here should look up Saul Alinskys main points, they're very very good. I particularly liked his points about Ridicule being a potent weapon, and that militancy should actually be discouraged for targeting the majority, since most people can only have a militant interest in something for a short time. It's about gradualism and the infiltration of institutions.

>>5433907

>Yes I will keep circling back to it because as I have explained it is exactly there you will find out all the answers people are looking for.

no, you haven't explained it, you simply made that claim and then kept repeating the same assertion over and over again while calling everyone else stupid.

>It is not my fault that you consistently refuse to accept that I have explained this in detail

because you haven't. you just said "read this book it has all the answers" without explaining its relevancy at all. you don't even have an argument, you just name dropped Marx

by the way you argue like someone straight out of /leftypol/

>>5433967

yes, I suppose my statement was too vague and it needs elaboration. I feel like writing a longer post about it but I have shit to do now so maybe later.

great post btw, I agree with you

>>5432858

Worst of all is the fact that they themselves believe that they do good out of the good of their heart.

>>5434059

>you argue like someone straight out of /leftypol/

He said as he consistently refuses to accept that the opposition has made an explanation.

>muh educaysheen

>>5434096

>Leftists have conditioned themselves

Again, no. Again, its part of the Long March throguh the Institutions.

Not enough war, not enough suffering, not enough natural selection.

Too much convenience, too much comfort, too many participation awards.

The Left needs a good old fashioned American style ass-kicking.

Just because

>>5434150

>Again, no. Again, its part of the Long March throguh the Institutions.

That's not mutually incompatible. Education and entertainment are the primary means of conditioning.

Test>>5432549

>>5434173

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. As far as I can see you're trying to say that they condition themselves after being conditioned by their education and entertainment.

It should be a given that when someone's entire life is based on a lie they will assert their own position as correct by themselves and/or their peers in order to keep their delusion. Cognitive dissonance and all of those mental things I could mention.

>>5432977

>Maybe he knows that humans have a psycological need to complete things or "fill in the blanks."

a lot of his campaign is based on this.

>>5432549

This man speaks the truth, raw and hard. It's for posts like this that i still come to pol.

>>5432246

Why are chimps so aggressive?

People with a lower intellect go for irrational policies as they can't see the wider picture, and leftist policies are just that, irrational illogical and completely unworkable.

>>5433795

Being logical is showing off? Fuck off

>>5434221

Having an intellect is already showing off to the chimps…

>>5433291

>Our actual ability to counter and infuriate them comes from the fact that we're fully immersed and political creatures (at least when on /pol/ or debating/trolling).

This is why people like Ann Coulter keep showing up to debate Leftists and she keeps wiping the floor with them. Even if you disagree with her, you can't deny that she comes correct with facts and actual arguments while her opponents just stammer and get all flustered that she dares to say these things. I've seen it happen so many times, even with shit-tier trolls like Gavin McInnes. They really don't have the power to counter this shit, it's like they've never even heard it before.

>>5434221

>>5434226

Honestly this exchange is funny considering how correct it is. Even though I know you mean niggers when you say chimps.

The whole idea of calling someone a "showoff" negatively is an older leftist tactic trying to shame people into shutting their mouths, before racist was popular.

All part of cultural marxism "we must be on the same level, everyone of us. nobody is allowed to be good at anything".

>>5434250

>is an older leftist tactic trying to shame people into shutting their mouths

This is the reason I replied actually. These people are likely intellectual midgets trying to silence others because they don't fully understand what they're hearing/reading. God forbid they make an effort to learn.

>>5434250

I really mean intellect chimps, not just niggers, just general leftist morons that have the intellects of chimps and throw their metaphorical feces at others…

What you have to understand is this problem is tied to the fall of education in general, the reason Oxbridge and Ivy league Unis were predominantly filled with whites is because people went there to *learn*, the best used to go there because they had an intellect and wanted to gain more knowledge.

Now because of "equality" they have to let in a quota of morons that would have never been able to get in otherwise.

Being educated, just by simply reading in a library already makes you a threat to them, particularly when knowledge can now be gained online for free at any time of the day.

It makes them feel bad, just like fat people feel bad because sporty people put time and effort in to exercising.

>>5434267

Can someone post the video where those pictures are from please?

>>5433795

>>5434221

Show off in that situation isn't necessarily an insult or negative.

>>5434250

This explanation shows that seeing "show off" negatively is based in a leftist moral system. It can very well be an endearing term or a compliment. Or a sign of helplessness that the reader didn't understand the post.

Watch some Trump debates with a very negative audience and how he redefines their reaction. "They didn't boo me, they boo'd the other guys" For humans perception of reality is often more important than reality. So if you react negatively to such an perceived insult you turn it into a real insult. Redefine it as compliment and it appears as a compliment in the reader's eyes.

I still genuinely don't understand where the comparisons to Hitler come from. Is it just because they were both popular? I don't get it, it must be deeper than that.

I had a history teacher friend on Facebook reply to a Trump supporters comment on why she thinks he's like Hitler, but surprise surprise she deleted the Trump supporters comment, so I can't screenshot. But anyway, my point is that a damn history teacher seems to think Trump and Hitler are the same and I just don't understand where the comparisons are coming from. Can anyone explain?

Oh, and another thing, to be fair, I'm glad my history teacher friend deleted the persons comment because the Trump fan made Trump supporters look retarded. Why is it always the bumbling retards that are willing to comment in support of Trump? Where the well reasoned, articulate (and good fucking spellers) on Facebook hiding?

>>5434207

>Why are chimps so aggressive?

What annoys me most in the video is how they just talk on freeflow. Like, they don't stop to pause or anything. It's just a constant flow of annoying noise.

>>5434270

>This is the reason I replied actually.

That's the reason I didn't reply. I guess that's where we differ. I don't expect anyone on /pol/ to be affected by being called a "showoff" and for that reason I didn't reply. You probably replied because you thought "fuck that guy, don't say showoff" then.

>>5434276

>I really mean intellect chimps, not just niggers, just general leftist morons that have the intellects of chimps and throw their metaphorical feces at others…

I can see what you mean.

>What you have to understand is this problem is tied to the fall of education in general

Yep that's what I've been saying. Cultural Marxism.

>>5434290

>This explanation shows that seeing "show off" negatively is based in a leftist moral system. It can very well be an endearing term or a compliment. Or a sign of helplessness that the reader didn't understand the post.

I won't say you're wrong, but come on now, you're grasping at straws.

>>5434296

Having sex with a person, you should know where you stand with them, what they're personal outlook is in regards to pregnancy.

I really don't empathise with people that suddenly find themselves surprised by the people they are sleeping with, you're supposed to really get to know a person before you sleep with someone.

There is no 100% contraception method apart from banging a trap, if you aren't mature enough to realise sex can lead to pregnancy, you shouldn't be having it off.

>>5434324

*their

dammit I'm shattered today

>>5434306

>You probably replied because you thought "fuck that guy, don't say showoff" then.

Exactly. I don't want anyone being discouraged from taking the time to post something of quality (which that anon did). Of course this is /pol/ so in all probability he didn't give a fuck about being called a showoff but I had to post anyways.

weak genes and envy.

>>5434291

Both Trump and Hitler are/ were K.

Bumbling retards are r.

Case closed.

It's emotional not logical. And it is meant to stop other K-warriors from supporting Trump.

>>5434306

It doesn't matter if it is a straw. All that matters is rewriting your perception of it. There is that one Trump video from 20 years ago.

> Mr. Trump, I'm average..

> Stop right there, you are not average. You are exceptional. Tell it yourself every day until you believe it. If you don't believe it it doesn't work.

You can read the same sentiment in many books. You are not your mind. Your mind is a tool. A tool you can use and reprogram.

>>5434291

>Where the well reasoned, articulate (and good fucking spellers) on Facebook hiding?

Anyone who is smart also chooses to not use facebook. Same thing with reddit. Anyone who is smart does not use reddit outside of PR or similar things.

>>5434348

>It doesn't matter if it is a straw. All that matters is rewriting your perception of it.

My perception is that if someone calls me a showoff I will be unapologetic about it and tell them I don't want people to be lowered down from the station they can attain. I don't care otherwise.

>>5434306

Yeah I had my taste of cultural marxism today after being rejected for a job I was clearly over qualified for.

Bountiful knowledge complementing a First in the degree relevant to the job, didn't even get an interview because their questionnaire involved asking about my race and my religion…

And of course HR was full "minorities".

I'm depressed as fuck about this, it's literal not me, it's the fact I don't fit their quotas.

Maybe I should apply as Rajeet Patel, at least I'd get an interview that way.

>>5434366

Simply pretend to be a Jew.

>>5434365

If someone calls you a show off he acknowledges that you have something to show off.

>>5434366

Claim that you're transsexual, transracial and a lesbian. You should know how these people work, use if for your benefit.

>>5434375

You don't knock a woman up that would do that anon.

Women do not spontaneously become pregnant.

Simply, sleep with people that have the same political outlook as you do.

>>5433291

>Our actual ability to counter and infuriate them comes from the fact that we're fully immersed and political creatures (at least when on /pol/ or debating/trolling).

This is why people like Ann Coulter keep showing up to debate Leftists and she keeps wiping the floor with them. Even if you disagree with her, you can't deny that she comes correct with facts and actual arguments while her opponents just stammer and get all flustered that she dares to say these things. I've seen it happen so many times, even with shit-tier trolls like Gavin McInnes. They really don't have the power to counter this shit, it's like they've never even heard it before.

>>5432297

Obummuh said so, that means it's true goyim!

>>5432665

>reduce medicine costs by reducing the influence of US drug companies which obviously entails importing generic drugs from India

>IMPLYING

Holy shit you're dumb.

>>5434374

>>5434382

I don't want to sell out like that, I am proud of who I am and to be honest if that don't want to hire me I wouldn't be a good fit anyway.

I know this, but putting in so many years consistent quality work and being deflected is a real kick in the teeth.

>>5433080

Good logical exposition, lost on most people. This is a good example of how logic is not political or biased. Logic is logic.

>>5433583

Formal logic is a branch of philosophy bro. There is nothing more characteristic than the "love of knowledge" than the study of formal logic. Logic is the basis for "philosophy" 'per se.' [Formal] logic is to philosophy as arithmetic [logic] is to mathematics.

>>5434398

Well, there's always self employment, consulting, etc.

I had to give up electronics and re-educate myself & work for myself.

But my reason was they sent most of the jobs overseas, and the one's left here pay squat.

>>5434398

I know the feeling. I've never felt worse about myself than when I had to "sell myself" to the employer with your resume and so on. Writing to impress and that shit. I advocate for a thing I don't have the stomach to do myself.

The feeling I had can be described as:

I just want to work.

>>5432803

Israel

>>5434374

That only works at Jew'd companies. Niggers and other non-whites just see "David Goldbergblatstein" and think "fuckin' whitey".

I'd say the safest bet would just put "Caucasian" for race and "Muslim" as religion. People feel good about hiring Muslims even if they are white as a ghost and converted yesterday.

>>5433080

good god you hurt my brain.

>>5434416

>>5434424

My degree is less than a year old, I am actively adding to my skills whilst being unemployed, self-employment needs capital and I doubt I could get work through consulting, not really that area.

ALL I WANT IS TO WORK, dammit buddy you feelin' me.

I take work seriously, is a matter of honour but apparently that's not good enough.

It's gotten to the point that it really is about nothing more than not being a transracial, muslim ladyman.

And it's not like they are tracking down my political views as I'm very careful about that.

I haven't got a swastika on my CV or a picture of Trump attached to my emails.

I'll climb out of this hole eventually, I'm not going to let those bastards win, but it's hard to see less qualified people getting jobs because it's so damn illogical.

>>5434193

So yes, they condition themselves.

>>5432281

>reddit

>"Then I'm sure you can easily beat this guy's points."

>starting off with superiority shit like most leftists do

I didn't even waste my time on you

>>5434453

I had to constantly run to businesses every day for about 3 months before I got a result. Personally being there obviously, since its an important part of first impressions. Its fucking harsh. You will get results if you continue to work hard, but you do have to work HARD to get results.

>>5434487

Thanks for sharing, I've heard about it as a good strategy but not by anyone who has actually done it, I'll make this my next step.

>why is the left so condescending?

Maybe it is because they were entirely raised by women.

>>5434453

Just apply to everything, take a shit job or volunteer or intern. Just having something you are presently doing makes you infinitely more employable.

>>5434296

>1) the baby doesn't exist yet so anything the baby would need is completely irrelevant because it isn't alive yet

What the hell? The baby may not be alive yet but it's still a human being so we have a basic idea of what its needs will be.

>2) the mother, if she can't support it on her own, could get the abortion just the same if the father chooses to opt out

I thought you're exploring the hypothetical scenario where the mother chooses not to abort and to go through with having the baby?

Overall though, I agree with you. It feels like they have pre-planned emotional reactions to specific scenarios because "everything is relative" rather than an internally consistent belief system.

>>5432268

This.

Succinctly stated. Very well put.

>Emotion overrides logic anon, that's why they get triggered and it really hurts them psychologically.

Couldn't have said it any better.

IT'S 2016

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/710484400732028929

LITERALLY

>>5432620

>>5432624

Wow just wow……

>>5433995

I'll second that.

Cease immigration, do it, and you get my vote.

>>5434283

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3vcvGpALQ

Cuck carl is around 9.00

Cba find the other cuck

>>5432977

He leaves breadcrums ALWAYS

"They", the "radical leftists", "take america back"(from whom?)

Its always the same. He's tickling the giants with feathers to wake them up.

Because to them it's backwards to be right winged, it means you're un-educated.

>>5434541

Holy Fuck, did someone draw him getting fucked by a gorilla?

It just doesn't occur to them that someone equally intellegent, or even more intelligent than themselves might disagree with them.

They've been taught their entire lives that their way is the only logical, morally righteous way to be. Anyone who doesn't agree with them must be stupid, uninformed, or just evil.

>>5433206

READ

THE

FASCIST

MANIFESTO

>>5432246

They are a cult. They have to dehumanize you in order to maintain their believes. They have to maintain their believes to prevent themselves from realizing what they have done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUhR-tRkHY

The left attained its power and keeps it mainly through emotional manipulation. Condescension being one of the most effective tactics, it's not surprising they use it quite often.

>>5432977

>>5434719

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. For the simple masses, his appearance is that of a strongman leader who wants to make America great again. For those who know there's more to it than that, he leaves those bread crumbs so we know he's paying attention and not just some clown in politician shoes.

>>5432246

>>5432268

I believe it runs much much deeper than getting "triggered" and emotions.

These people have agendas, and use these emotions and triggerings as a forefront. What do they all push for? Marxism.

SJW's took over the OpieandAnthony plebit. There are many fans over there, but they have gotten toxic as shit after starting a campaign to destroy Opie, Anthony and Jim by posting old vids and show clips to notorious marxist subreddits.

Since then, they have shut down the TACS subreddit, and are going after Jim Norton for some failed kickstarter. So many brand new accounts that only post in /r/opieandanthony, they all are Bernie fans that hate Anthony's political positions and think Gavin and Milo are pieces of shit.

It may not seem outright like SJWs, until you see the tactics and the hate.

Fuck the "fans" went from funny to pieces of shit. Now they want apologies.

Its an infestation.

>>5435156

Join /r/tacn , they need people now.

>>5435156

The real question is why you would be enough of a faggot to go to reddit in the first place. You are not welcome here redditor.

>>5432726

THE BIBLE PREDICTED POLITICS!

>>5433844

Someone should have said "No more you" and then shot him on the spot.

>>5435182

> THE BIBLE PREDICTED JEWS!

Fixed.

>I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars–I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

>>5435172

Shit, I only go for that sub and the_donald.

Ive been here forever.

>>5432281

>x10 reddit gold

>4713 thumbs up

ayyy never change good goys!

>>5432549

They are in the grip of Angra Mainyu, whereas we are guided by Ahura Mazda. As such, they have little choice but to be as antagonistic as possible, for they have nothing else but suffering, resentment and emptiness within them.

>>5435209

HOLY FUCK nice id

>>5435407

Anyone else getting a fetal alcohol syndrome vibe from her?

>>5432335

>If it's any consolation, if there's ever a truly world destruction event in which humanity is massively wiped out, the overwhelming majority of any survivors with this emotional defect will go extinct quickly.

That would be consolation except for the fact that sociopaths also function well during emergency SHTF scenarios since they have little emotional response to anything and wouldn't be disturbed in the slightest to see mass death and suffering. In any serious happening scenario sociopaths would have the best odds of survival.

A Conservatard Christian pundit fascist STEM professor and toxically manly man was teaching a class on Andrew Jackson, a known shitlord.

"Before the class begins, you must pull yourselves by your bootstraps and accept that Andrew "bank-killer" Jackson was the bravest and most bad-ass freedom fighter that ever lived, even greater than Che Guevara himself!"

At this moment, a brave, body-positive, pro-choice Non-binary Transgender human rights digital activist who has racked up to 15000 reblogs of xhirs Tumbler's blog and understood the necessity for the destruction of the white patriarchy and fully supported the end of all borders and national identities, rode to the front of the class in a scooter because xhir is unable to stand up very well due to problems unrelated to xhir's beautiful obese body. Xhir sat on Xhir scooter and held up a copy of the second amendment.

"What is this paper?"

The arrogant professor smirked quite right-wingishly and smugly replied "It's the constitutional right to bear arms which keep us safe! you stupid liberal!"

"Wrong. It’s the [CURRENT YEAR] and do you really need a gun to keep you safe? really? ARE YOU KIDDING ME IM SO TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW, I mean like that's what the police are for. furthermore these images of crying families of the victims of school shootings prove that guns are evil and should be banned and only cops should have them even though they are all racist and dumb"

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Mein Kampf. He stormed out of the room crying those conservative crocodile male tears. The same male tears they cry when they see a strong independent woman of color (who today live in such oppression, that most don't own apple products) when they greedily try to hold onto tax money that would be used to pay for Ladayshondraniqua's 5 children and her future abortions. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Adolf Trump, wished he had liberated himself from the clutches of his toxic masculinity and become more than a heartless mean Capitalist. He wished so much that he had state funded hormonal treatment and surgeries to understand his true gender identity, but alas he refused to distribute his wealth!

The students applauded and all had trouble deciding between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton that day and accepted themselves as gender fluid and turned all the college campus into a safe space. A genderqueer, aromantic, polyamorous eagle otherkin named "Sweden" flew into the room and tore down the imperialistic American flag and then made a modern performance art by sucking everyone's dicks and dyeing the semen and then inserting it up his asshole and then squirting it back to a canvass, writing the words "VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN" with his leaky asshole . Imagine by john Lennon was was sung several times, and Angela Dworking herself showed up and gave a lecture on why men are barbaric beasts undeserving of life.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day for racism, homophobia, trans phobia and sexual harassment, he later died in a school shooting in the inbred racist south.

Refugees welcome.

>>5433815

Yeah, filtered as well. You're too stupid.

>>5433253

>>5432586

>>5432624

So cuck carl is the rule 63 of Big Red?

Is this sum OC?

>>5434926

>you're a white male

>is a white male

>this cognitive dissonance

>>5435553

Get for Trump?

>>5435554

Close but no cigar.

>>5434926

THIS FUCK

NEEDS TO HANG.

>>5435413

yeah, not much philtrum

>>5435594

Ahh c'mon don't let him get to you, he doesn't even understand what he's saying, it's a dumb animal.

>>5435619

Forgive them father for they know not what they do. We aren't god anon we don't have to forgive them.

Read "Vision of the Anointed"

What's the source on this guy? I'd really hate to miss out on some good liberal butthurt.

>>5435268

This hit close to home. Sometimes I seriously think about suicide then I remember I wont live to see if Trump will be the president, I wont see butthurt liberals anymore, etc.

>>5435640

Ah-ahhh I never said forgive, I said we shouldn't let them get to us.

The only proper reaction to liberal madness is to be completely in control of yourself, laugh at their childish notions and disregard them for being suicidal idiots.

>>5435693

Yes.

>>5435693

When we came here during Gamergate there was only /pol/ then lefties got BTFO too hard and they made /leftypol/ because they couldn't handle discussing their position at any level other than pure emotion.

The end.

tl;dr: yes

>>5433080

wat

>>5433080

wat

>>5435275

We're on the Trump team now faggot, and hes winning.

>>5435720

>free as in free speech

ebin

>>5435776

>>5435777

Just take a Discrete Math course at your local comm college. If they have a Comp Sci program they'll have it. It'll cover basic logical operations and conditionals along with set theory.

>>5434931

>>5432246

Because when you're on the "right side of history" the ends justify the means.

>>5435912

IT'S 1933

>>5435934

underrated post

Does R U KIDDING ME guy have a twitter?

We should accuse him of being a pedophile and when he denies it just respond with R U KIDDING ME?

>>5435980

This.

>>5435980

I'm all up for causing liberal tears, and I love me a good raid, makes me feel young again.

>>5435407

>>5435413

not since phil fish have i seen such a zombied expression.

>>5436057

Even when full of emotion and screaming, still has the droopy eyes and zombie gaze.

How can this be anons?

>>5435980

>accuse him of being a pedophile and when he denies

>implying

Being a pedophile is the new frontier of oppressed libfaggotry. It'd be a badge of honor.

My favorite attack on communist faggots is to get their own side to attack them by using their micro-aggression nonsense against them. Accused him of white-splaining racism and shouting over the poor oppressed niggers in the video.

>>5435912

IT'S 2016! How can someone make a joke about somebodies name? I can't even…It's not even a little bit funny, it's just plain stupid. Also, didn't he immigrated from the UK? Will Emperor Trump deport this faggot?

>>5434267

Any of you guy mind pointing me to the source of this cuck who has now become a meme?

>>5435921

Yeah, he did an excellent job, too.

>>5436418

>>5434702

>>5433869

Reminder that Thor was a crossdressing faggot

Reminder that Loki had sex with a male horse after turning into a female horse.

God wiped out entire cities of degenerates. The modern day Talmudic-Christianity is but a perversion and heresy of the true faith.

A symptom of our diseased culture which has abandoned tradition.

We will return to destroying dens of degeneracy, purging homos, and protecting the stability and ethnic makeup of our countries.

>>5436479

Danke

This guys face is disgusting.

They are condescending because they believe they are right, and that they have the moral high ground.

They believe this because they have been shown it their entire lives through television and education.

The right is evil, backwards and stupid.

And they're right.

The right is backwards and stupid because they let this fucking happen. No one stood up and well all drank the koolaide and now we all have to suffer for it.

May everything be well documented, may much opsec be observed and may this never happen again in history. We should never be as stupid as we have in the past ever again.

>>5436620

It will happen again. Nobody is above the concept of humanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun

A Muslim, but he describes the events that caused the fall of many great civilizations, and what occurs to this day.

>When civilization [population] increases, the available labor again increases. In turn, luxury again increases in correspondence with the increasing profit, and the customs and needs of luxury increase. Crafts are created to obtain luxury products. The value realized from them increases, and, as a result, profits are again multiplied in the town. Production there is thriving even more than before. And so it goes with the second and third increase. All the additional labor serves luxury and wealth, in contrast to the original labor that served the necessity of life.

It's been phrased in many ways.

>Bad times create great men

>Great men create good times

>Good times create bad men

>Bad men create bad times

>Hardship promote masculine values

>Luxury promote feminine values

And so on. The west is (obviously) not immune to it, even though cognitive dissonance allows us to think it is. It's 2016 after all :^) .

>>5432620

>>5432624

Loudmouth ape with the white hoodie and St Louis hat on apparently got bloodied up later on.

Really wishing the greasy haired faggot cuck got the same treatment.

http://ktla.com/2016/03/11/violence-erupts-at-donald-trump-rally-in-st-louis/

To all /pol/acks that intend to engage the street vermin, the chaotic mass:

Crony capitalism is a flaccid talking point easily ignored by leftists. If you want to speak to leftists you need to use better language:

-Decaying social bonds between people

-Isolation/Alienation

-Heterogeneous communities have less cohesion and more crime

Read Bowling Alone, the studies he cites, and arm yourselves with them. You have to appeal to their interests.

Blacks and other alienated groups already feel dispossessed by capitalism, so reverting to a previous capitalist manifestation is meaningless to them. You have to offer a vision of the future where strong black communities can live in harmony. Show them how illegal immigration directly affects blacks.

Otherwise you are wasting your time talking to minorities and should be catering your message to white bernie supporters who will also see the strength in the message I have outlined.

>>5432896

Spoiler that shit asshole

>>5433879

>implying its not

These pedowood actors are always on camera.

>>5436972

you forgot obvious vegi/non meat eater…which leads to his skinny/weak look and hair loss

>>5434163

>first pic

>"Cuk" in url

Hahaha Beautiful

>>5436481

In case you're not a shill, you should know not to reply to obvious unrelated religious division.

And because you obviously don't know anything about norse mythology, Thors' "crossdressing" was a disguise, and Loki is not a god to be worshipped, he is the "evil trickster" that comes along, fucks everything up and does a lot of degenerate shit, and then causes the end of time, Loki doing disgusting stuff is literally the point.

Also, I hate to tell you this but you should probably stop LARPing about being a cool paladin and killing all the heretics, you guys only exist in America.

Do not respond to me, it will derail the thread

sage for offtopic

>>5433653

Wew lads, we got us a condescending faggot in our own midst.

Your precious rules of debate and logical argument mean fuck all in the real world where winning the hearts and minds of the commons through emotionally charged propaganda and blood and steel are what win the day.

>>5433688

The communist Manifesto is largely irrelevant these days as the modern left is Neo-Marxist, it's evolved beyond the Manifesto. A summary of it and a deconstruction of its arguments and assertions is more than anyone ever needs to read of it.

R: 314 I: 88

>1488

This thread has luck confirmed.

Also in Trumps choice of song it said that you are so condensending your idk is never ending.

Coinsidince, I do not think so.

>>5432246

>Why is the left so condescending

because they have no argument

>>5434415

>Formal logic is a branch of philosophy bro. There is nothing more characteristic than the "love of knowledge" than the study of formal logic. Logic is the basis for "philosophy" 'per se.' [Formal] logic is to philosophy as arithmetic [logic] is to mathematics.

It's nice and all, but you need to bring both barrels, emotion and logic, to the fight. Logic alone, like emotion alone, is inadequate.

>>5437521

>It's nice and all, but you need to bring both barrels, emotion and logic, to the fight. Logic alone, like emotion alone, is inadequate.

Actually you need a fair dose of rhetoric and physchology to talk to people not as smart as you.

Have those three cucks been doxed yet?

>>5434398

I have my pozzed sociology teacher convinced that I'm a "closet homosexual who came out to my dad last week, resulting in me getting kicked out and my textbooks thrown away". She basically gave me an A for nothing; just because of >muh oppression

like the matrix, life is full of loopholes

>>5435729

As a commie board they're in all likelihood at least 50% trannies and severely depressed people.

They only use social-hierarchy kind of arguments, trying to make you submit to the present order of power.

>>5435295

>Simple: Most of them aren't nearly as smart as they think they are, and most of them think they are very smart.

>Protip: Most women - especially librul progressive womyn - are basically the same way.

Narcisism, and the hollow confidense which leads to it, is at the very core of the leftist problem.

>>5433524

>The Communist Manifesto

>The Long March through the Institutions

Two different things. Your ignorance makes us look bad.

>>5433532

Okay. You're triggered. Now what?

>>5432620

>>5432624

>Nigger looks into maybe his 30s

>Claims to have adult children with jobs

>Claims his father was born in 1918

>Claims his father was born a slave

Funniest shit I've seen in a while. How hard is it to learn that slavery was made illegal in 1865? Google, nigger. They claim to care about their "people", but can't be bothered to learn the most basic history of them.

Maybe thats why niggers prefer to play pretend WE WUZ KANGZ "history".

>>5436972

Sage for off-topic, but do you have any pics of facial comparison with low and high test male faces? I'm curious how I compare.

Obviously I'll look around /fit/.

>>5437312

Irrelevant to the conversation between myself and the anon. The alleged "condescending" attitude is mistaken. It's a pedagogical conversation between two non-peers. Kinda like the conversation we are about to have.

The anon I'm responding to is committed to reasoning. It's even in his some of his posts, e.g. the reference to strawmanning and thinking rationally. If you were actually familiar with rhetoric, you'd know that audience and kairos are the first things being assessed. The only person worth persuading in this context is the person I'm engaged in conversation with. There is no need to set up an appeal to logos that is sandwiched between appeals to ethos and pathos here, as he is already allegedly committed to logos. Given that I am aware of how rhetoric works (which is the historical foundation for propaganda), if I were engaged with the general public outside this context, I would already know to assess audience, kairos, and decorum, as these things are varied. So to say that I'm not considering appeals to pathos along with appeals to the stick in variable audience and kairos is not only irrelevant to the discussion above, but shows that it is you that don't appear to understand the foundations of the things you are putting forth.

And before you say something like, "but you are breaking the rules of decorum here by using big scary words and not considering the audience! You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded!" No, I'm using specific terminology from rhetoric that anyone capable of reading a basic book on rhetoric would see in the first few chapters. The genuinely curious would start googling such terms and educating themselves. So I'm not talking down to you, I'm trying to educate you. The anon above (and potentially you as well depending upon your response to this post, I'd wager strong money you'll respond to this post like he did) missed the fact that I wasn't trying to be an ass, I was trying to get him to be better. I even say it in my response to him asking him why his post was relevant. The post you are responding to of mine is a response to his inability to be rationally persuaded via an appeal to logos, even though he thinks he is committed to logos.

1/2

>>5439964

As to the content of your claim. Firstly, there are no "rules of debate" here. It's not a subjective, cultural thing. What I'm referencing is two separate areas of research that just happen to be the best systematic and robust accounts of argument that humans currently have, i.e. how to infer things from language, and how to get to the meaning of language. To say these things mean "fuck all in the real world" shows you have no idea what you are talking about (especially considering kairos and audience again, i.e. I'm not engaging with the "commons" I'm engaging with a person who said he is committed to logos). Considering large amounts of mathematics and science uses inference to draw conclusions, and that the facts of these inferences are used in actual rhetoric and propaganda within appeals to logos. In fact, in Edward Bernay's book Propaganda he states the best form of propaganda is the truth. This is also confirmed from what we know in the cognitive study of rhetoric (see Dan Sperber's research), i.e. certain audiences do favor appeals to logos over the other appeals. For you to access your appeals to logos, you need ways to get at truth. In which case, you need tools like the research areas above.

Secondly, your response is a non-argument. You haven't supported it in anyway. Nevertheless, let's consider that your statement is true. Hence, we'll enter your world and use your own claim against you by plugging it back into itself. This is something I partially alluded to above. Rhetoric is both the historical and theoretical grounding for other forms of persuasion you mentioned. Appeals to pathos are appeals to emotion. Appeals to the fist are also a rhetorical style per Robert Hariman and Wayne Booth's research on Machiavelli's account of "republican-style rhetoric". Both of these are already grounded in rhetoric, so you are committed to rhetoric whether you like it or not. Now, you haven't even considered who your audience is here. You haven't rationally persuaded me, as there is no supporting claims. You've merely asserted it. That's bad rhetorical form for someone who wants to make a commitment to overall persuasion that is grounded in rhetoric. It certainly isn't an appeal to ethos or pathos either. You can certainly try support your statement by threatening me, but I'd laugh at you. So really, you've asserted some sort of persuasive framework (theoretically and historically grounded in rhetoric) that is totally unpersuasive to your audience in the context of this conversation. Your own claim self-refutes itself. Think long and hard about your commitments (the entailments of what you think are true) before responding with something like, "my claim was about the real world and the commoners, not the conversation," as that would be missing the point of this paragraph.

2/2

Here's my breakdown >>5439729

i can make one

find me a fitizen

>>5437328

correct

>>5434473

underrated post

>>5432586

This slavergina look like a puppet!

>>5432246

>>5432246

they deny race

anti science faggots

http://www.freezepage.com/1457691835OBEEDXQUXM

>>5440741

>Is there a book or website that you would recommend that one could use to build a foundation on proper rhetoric?

Website: http://rhetoric.byu.edu/

Then make your way through the following:

Attic Orators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic_orators

Sophists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism

Then the big three Greeks thoughts on rhetoric and the sophists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgias_(dialogue)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaedrus_(dialogue)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric_(Aristotle)

Then Romans.

Cicero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero#Works

Especially: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Oratore

Quintilian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutio_Oratoria

That'd just about do it. Quintilian is very good and comprehensive.

If I had to cut it down completely. Read Aristotle's Rhetoric and Quintilian.

After reading classical rhetoric, you could keep going historical, but I'd read contemporary social psychology, which covers things like what science knows about persuasion.

You'll also want to read up on other related areas (like philosophy and writing), if you haven't already.

You'll also want to practice it. See the progymnasmata on first website above for classical exercises: http://rhetoric.byu.edu/Pedagogy/Rhetorical%20Exercises.htm

Join a public speaking club, though be selective, as some of them tend to be shit and obsessed with business leadership and other crap (that while important in other ways, isn't really what you want).

>>5441419

Thank you, friend

>>5433065

/thread

>>5433080

Fuckin Molyneux..

>>5433080

This is what every philosophy class should look like. Quality post, anon

>>5433148

Well, yeah. The modern world has allowed us to see into the dark, into the heavens, and we haven't found much to justify us with some sense of divine providence, not much to instill us with a sense of true purpose. And since most people are just mentally and emotionally weak, designed as followers really, they have to come up with new and timely untruth to focus on now that painful truths abound.

It's some of the same logic that drives people into addiction, honestly. (That and the arrogance of people, to feel for certain they could NEVER degrade themselves, never truly change for the worst, that what they are they fundamentally are.)

This is true of more than leftists, certainly; I remember visiting Utah and all the ex-Mormons would claim mental freedom and liberation and yet at the same time speak of divine visions and gather in timely, civil little groups to talk about how FREE and ENLIGHTENED they are above the flock.

Funny shit.

I grew up without religion, and am just straight agnostic, so my only real god is absurdity and some search for emotional validation and success in writing. The Great Fear, of course, is falling into the absolute worship of the material as one is wont to once all ideas of God and ultimate faith in man is gone. I think with sufficient mental courage you can manage it, but shit's tough, and it makes perfect since so many fedoralords end up retarded liberal trash.

I think the vanity and greed you describe applies to all people; it's just that modern leftists, True Believers in they know not even what are particularly pure manifestations of it.

We should make a new thread on this really.

>>5441419

Just wanted to say thanks as well.

>>5446494

no worries

Because they're dumber people and succumbed to the brainwashing.

>>5432297

EVERYTHING IS PERFECTLY FINE

PLEASE REMAIN CALM

EVERYTHING IS PERFECTLY FINE

PLEASE REMAIN CALM

>>5432246

They're attempting to shame you into accepting their ways. You are a threat to their dopamine supply, you won't reflect and recieve good feels (signalling) and you CERTAINLY are stuck in the past you poor misguided goose.

Fortunately for you, refusing to play ball triggers a chain reaction of dopamine supply distruption. One stops virtue signalling and freaks out causing bad feels to chain to any leftists witnessing it. This triggers them as they have very thin skin, and they trigger as well.

If enough lefties are in this hyperemotional state, they will make horrible childish mistakes like attacking a cop with fists, or going on a public tantrum on camera.

Exploit this!

Leftists are condescending for the same reason religious fundamentalists are condescending. This is because leftism is a religion by the conventional sense of the word.

Marxism/Leftism offers a view of history (class struggles), a comprehensive and dogmatic view of the world as it is (where human interaction is determined by class struggles), a view of paradise (human progress through class struggle eventually resulting in paradise-on-earth) and a way to achieve that (by encouraging class struggles and fighting for social justice).

Essentially, the Left believes that it knows how to reach paradise-on-earth, and so everyone who stands in its way is not just its opponent or even its enemy, but an obstacle on the road to paradise that must be removed by any means necessary.

>>5432591

I don't have as bad a view of Hitler as most, but I find the comparison inappropriate. The only similarity is that they both rode a massive wave of furious populism after an extended period of absolutely pathetic and impotent government. And they're both talented orators, but with completely different styles.

Hitler's message that he campaigned on was that the Jews betrayed them from the homefront during World War I. We haven't lost an all-out war recently and Trump certainly isn't naming any specific demographics (except Muslims, but they are still more of an external threat than an internal one – Trump's presidency will have it stay that way). Hitler had no problem using violence to obtain office until his coup failed; Trump has never advocated violence or created a paramilitary force. Hitler emerged as a leader for a miniscule worker's party with no real influence; Trump has co opted an existing party with plenty of influence which ignores the will of its constituents.

>>5447733

I also agree with this. They show their true faces when the media gets too eager to make comparisons to Hitler, to people who can actually think critically they can see that the comparison is just used the same way "racist" is used, as an empty threat.

>>5447757

They're insecure because their real lives are shit. Very frequently these people, namely the young ones, have absolutely no talent except "was indoctrinated by Marxists at college."

Marxism and subversion is the thing that makes them feel secure, gives them confidence. They defend it fiercely and suffer trauma when you disprove it because it's literally all they have in life.

Their occupation is "full-time activist."

Bernie Sanders is a great example. Has he ever held a job outside of politics? Probably not. What did he spend the 50s doing? Fucking around in Israel with a group of radical Marxists attempting to subvert Zionism. You read that correctly, he was trying to out-Jew his fellow Jews. That's all these people do. Travel around the world and spread political turmoil because they have absolutely nothing fucking better to do with their time.

>>5447822

It makes me uncomfortable that they want to dictate so many parts of life without having a grounding in reality.

>>5447879

It's almost like a giant get rich quick scheme. "Hey there friend! Down on your luck? Don't have a job? Is that worthless degree you spent your parent's savings on not getting you paid? Well NOW YOU CAN! Just overthrow the government and change the laws so rich people give you their money! Oh and you may or may not need to kill about a hundred million hardworking citizens. But hey, gotta break a few eggs right? Get out there and protest, tovarisch!"

>>5447904

They do the same shit everywhere.This video illustrates my point, they think they're more knowledgable and experienced than the elderly. The "Are you kidding me" guy is basically a template.