08fd9e No.5465304
In light of recent events such as the GOPe putting all hands on deck to stop Trump. I began to think about alternative Political Parties that I could support in order to replace the GOP. If there even are any. So I guess my question is what are some viable alternative parties that have the potential to replace the Republicans in Congress which have /pol/ tier Politics?
3270c6 No.5465359
None. We need to rally behind Paleoconservatism and take over the Republican Party.
08fd9e No.5465381
>>5465359
So it would be easier to take over the Republican party than to create our own or support another one?
3270c6 No.5465395
>>5465381
Absolutely. Welcome to American politics, where basically any political movement with any measurable success dissolves into the Democratic-Republican party or the Republican party.
60eddf No.5465401
>>5465381
Yes.
I'll explain why in a minute
e97bc2 No.5465459
>>5465359
>We need to rally behind Paleoconservatism and take over the Republican Party.
This right here. The Constitution Party or the Reform Party are also good choices as well, but retaking a dying major party would be much more beneficial.
08fd9e No.5465511
>>5465459
>but retaking a dying major party would be much more beneficial.
Care to explain? I'm extremely new to all of this so I don't see why/how it would be more beneficial to do one over the other.
e91839 No.5465523
American Freedom Party is a third position style party, but we're better off continuing our hostile takeover of the GOP.
f6958b No.5465531
Barry Goldwater said, in 1994:
>Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
Preacher types have almost taken over the party many times. If they can, so can we.
f6958b No.5465552
>>5465511
Money. Some people are so invested ideologically in the label 'Republican' that they will never leave, and will give their money to Republican candidates regardless of ideological shifts in the Republican party.
Another reason is that in election law, states are required to list the Republican candidates on the ballot. Structurally, a 3rd party would have to get enough acceptance to get similar considerations, and that will not happen as long as the two mainstream parties resist it.
0ffac9 No.5465564
>>5465523
i'm preeeeeeeetttttty confident that whole thing is a farce
"pay us 25 bucks, we do nothing! here's free normie meams tho"
60eddf No.5465570
Okay the main reason why making a new party is retarded is because the USA has never been a multiparty system like Europe
The Republicans and Democrats tend to be comprised of multiple different groups with different number 1 issues- like blacks for black issues and women for women issues. However these groups become somewhat homogenized under the umbrella of the party so we women's issues and gay's issues being cared about by either group. Christian issues are cared about by immigration issues people.
Essentially you have a bunch of people who otherwise wouldn't care taking up the standards of other people's issues because the party as a whole chose to make that a standard. To a great degree this is why GWB and McCain and Romney's post-2000 attempts to shift the party away from the 1980s and 1990s opposition to illegal immigration only succeeded halfway and is now completely collapsing under Trump. Cuckservatives gradually came around to the idea that "maybe we can legalize them". Evangelicals were divided- those from 85% white states like Kansas cared less than evangelicals from 60% white states like Mississippi. Then Donald Trump comes on the scene and becomes the leader of the immigration issues people, who have crossover with other groups. Now Trump is crushing it in the polls as a result. And when he gets to the general election because he has a broad platform and base with immigration as a centerpiece if he gets elected then immigration will finally be addressed after 30 years of the GOP allowing spics to flood in in the hopes they can say "woops to many of them here guess we need another amnesty".
Third parties do not have the reach or the appeal or the money to compete and even a successful third party run for president often does not materialize into a successful third party- as can be seen by the rapid decline of the Reform party after 1996.
>>5465511
Running a major political party is hard. Both parties have long established themselves in various regions. There isn't any reason to support the libertarians or greens unless you live in a state which is so conservative or liberal the Democrats or Republicans are irrelevant.
Plus there is the money issue and the fact that third parties are run by idiots who was time running for president when the only way to actually build a viable third party is to establish at the local, state and finally federal legislative levels- building a base of support in a specific region of the country. Third parties instead "leroy jenkins" right at the presidency and fail every time and waste a bunch of money and votes.
e97bc2 No.5465583
>>5465511 (checked)
Although there have been numerous third parties throughout American history (even the Republicans were third party at one point) that play crucial roles, our governmental system is almost designed to have two major factions. The Democrats and the Republicans are pretty much "big tent" parties with various factions/subgroups inside of them, ex. for Democrats you have: Blue Dogs (conservatives), progressive Dems, Third Way. For the GOP it's: Rockefeller (centrists or liberal), Neoconservatives, Paleoconservatives, moderates, Religious Right.
In short: third parties usually get pushed aside or consumed into one of the factions of the two main parties.
60eddf No.5465589
>>5465531
>implying
The Christians get played in every single election. Huckabee, Santorum, Carson all burned out and now tricky Ted is taking half of the evangelicals for a ride while the other half realize Trump is the real deal candidate.
08fd9e No.5465629
>>5465570
>>5465583
I see. What could I do now to help out The Donald take the GOP. I know that he needs loyal delegates in order to secure the nomination, but I couldn't find any information on how to become a delegate. I'm a floridag if that helps.
5f0d65 No.5465655
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>>5465304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
https://asitoughttobe.com/2010/07/18/score-voting/
I read a really good book on the subject of voting systems, it's called Gaming the vote by William Poundstone. tl:dr, first past the post voting basically guarantees a two-party system.
e97bc2 No.5465663
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>>5465629
> I know that he needs loyal delegates in order to secure the nomination, but I couldn't find any information on how to become a delegate. I'm a floridag if that helps.
Trump already won your state by a landslide, so I don't think you have to do too much at the moment. The best advice that I could offer would be to read up on his policies and get prepared to bash leftists' heads in.
Embed sorta related: it's Ross Perot. He was kind of a gun grabber, but his trade positions aligned shockingly well with Trump's platform.
f6958b No.5465668
>>5465629
I could be wrong here, but I think Florida delegates are already set, as in named.
You'd probably be more use pitching in to the Trump campaign in the fall, and using any platform you have online to talk to people about why Trump is good, and why Hillary is bad.
e97bc2 No.5465680
>>5465663
Forgot quote.
>"In the 1950's ninety percent of the goods that we bought in this country were made in the good old U-S-A. That number has dropped to only fifty per cent of the goods that we buy here in the U-S-A are made in the U-S-A and they will continue to drop as long as we have these stupid one sided trade deals."
e64f57 No.5466296
>>5465700
Yeah, that's gonna get support. The ANP, A3P, Silver shirts, American Blackshirts, White Party, and the White Patriot Party didn't work, but this one might.
d883f5 No.5466367
>>5466296
Typical shill behavior.
e97bc2 No.5466428
>>5466367
He's not entirely wrong though. While I support the parties that were mentioned, they're probably filled with agents. It would be best to take over an existing structure from the local level and take it over. After all, that's what the "New Left" movement did to the Democrats and the (((Neoconservatives))) did to the Republicans. As of now Trump is making it easier to do, because he's opened the door towards populist, White identity politics.
e64f57 No.5466474
>>5466367
It's not shilling, I like your beliefs. But read through this thread again. The Republicans are the right wing party, the Democrats are the left wing party, and no third party will overthrow them in this day and age. You'd make a lot more progress if you ran for some elected official at the local level on the Republican ticket while having these beliefs expressed as your political philosophy. Nobody's going to say "wow, what a great party! I'm gonna leave the Republicans in favor of paying the $99 annual membership fee of the tradworker party!" Nobody.
>>5466428
This. Trump is starting a new trend of "Trump republicans" like "Reagan republicans" before him. That's a good poster you have there; instead of wasting it, use something like it when you're running for elected office at the local level.
d883f5 No.5466478
>>5466428
He's still a shill faggot.
I hope both happens.
I hope the big rash of young nationalist minded white men start filling into the government as well as parties like the TWP are doing their own thing.
The TWP wants to do what groups like Jobbik do and headhunt cuckservatives by threatening to take away from the right wing vote if they don't tow their party line.
As well as running local politicians, creating a European style nationalist subculture.
What the shill cuck faggot wants you to do is not to even try.
You miss 100% of the opportunities you don't chase after.
d3a0c2 No.5466480
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>>5465570
America has virtually ALWAYS been a two party system.
e64f57 No.5466484
27f127 No.5466543
>>5465359
This. But more accurately a paleo + libertarian + Trump-nationalist alliance to marginalize the neocons and retarded movement cuckservatives.
Forget about a third party right now. There's a real opportunity to take over the GOP.
e64f57 No.5466544
>>5466478
That happened in Europe because it works in Europe. You have good beliefs, don't waste them on another third party when you could actually make a difference by having them be the issues you campaign on when you run on the Republican party ticket. Older people would align with the you for being a Republican, younger people would align with you for being something radical and new. There's a difference between shills who respond to even the slightest possibility of action with "you're just a kike wait for hitler" and me who is saying "this is a pie-in-the-sky idea and you need to be more realistic and put this good potential to good use"
e97bc2 No.5466550
>>5466478
>I hope the big rash of young nationalist minded white men start filling into the government as well as parties like the TWP are doing their own thing.
I definitely agree with that. FFS, look at George Wallace's campaign. Whether or not he was genuine doesn't matter, but he had overwhelming support among young white men. He gave them some sort of hope, which is what Trump is doing now. Even if Trump doesn't win I hope he does though, and delivers on his platform he's already opened the door to more radical (at least for modern day America) political thought. Think: if Trump didn't come on the scene, Rubio would have been the "new face of the Republican Party," and that face is an amnesty-backing, mongrelized Third Worlder platform based on abstracts - family values, compassion, law and order - flung around by the GOPe. We're getting more and more blood-and-soil with Trump's successes.
>What the shill cuck faggot wants you to do is not to even try.
I see your point, and yes, demoralization is not the way to go.
e64f57 No.5466581
>>5466550
All my posts have been recommending he take action. Except one which said third parties don't work. You agreed with that point and most of your other posts have had the same points as my other posts.
e97bc2 No.5466634
Brb, getting some milk.
Also, look into Pat Buchanan and Russell Kirk for major influences.
e64f57 No.5466702
>>5466681
>not ben garrison
ISHYGDDT
18e5bf No.5466709
>>5466458
Is that song of the Iron Guard? I cannot find it.
polite sage for off topic
18e5bf No.5466723
08fd9e No.5466724
>>5465655 (Checked)
If/when we do take over the GOP couldn't we just implement policies that move us toward a MMP system of Voting/<insert better voting system here>. (Personally from watching the video I prefer MMP of the ones discussed).
000000 No.5466746
> So I guess my question is what are some viable alternative parties that have the potential to replace the Republicans in Congress which have /pol/ tier Politics?
'American Freedom Party
http://www.american3rdposition.com/
077d3e No.5466767
>flag of the American Nazi Party
>Swastika with globe in the middle
>no American nationalism signs
>a fucking globe
>Nazi Germany's flag to begin with
>nothing to do with America
That's the worst flag I've ever seen in my life, please get off /pol/
e64f57 No.5466768
f6958b No.5466772
f6958b No.5466781
>>5466767
The flag of the American Nazi Party should just be the flag, with perhaps swastikas in place of stars.
08fd9e No.5466786
>>5466772
Mixed-Member Proportional Representation
49c60a No.5466795
>>5466768
constitution party?
000000 No.5466805
>>5466768
>He said viable
Then go on and keep buying into the left/right, two party system narrative.
Because until you stop taking part it in, it will continue to have all the power.
08fd9e No.5466807
>>5466781
>>5466767
I didn't make the flag I just thought it would be related to the subject.
e64f57 No.5466809
077d3e No.5466810
>>5466781
It shouldn't even be called the "nazi" party, a start would be at worst, American Fascist Party.
Yeah, it should just be the flag, with some slight altercations to make it more fashy perhaps.
08fd9e No.5466813
>>5466807
would be the most appropriate picture for the subject*
49c60a No.5466829
>>5466809
what do you want from me? lolbertarian party?
you aren't going to get many better outside the big two.
61876d No.5466857
>>5465304
Sadly, lolbertarianism is the only 3rd party that has any sort of following that could even theoretically start to interfere with the 2 party system.
08fd9e No.5466874
>>5466857
>Sadly, lolbertarianism is the only 3rd party that has any sort of following that could even theoretically start to interfere with the 2 party system.
Maybe we could take members from their party by making a party called "Nationalist Libertarians" or some shit like that.
f6958b No.5466875
So is Libertarianism just a slightly Republican-flavored version of Marxism?
61876d No.5466878
>>5466855
>>5466781
No Nazi party, or swastika using party can get popular enough to make a difference in America. Avoid these things if you all seriously want to create a fascist party.
49c60a No.5466886
>>5466874
nationalist libertarian is horribly redundant
e64f57 No.5466901
>>5466767
>>5466781
To be fair, I think GLR wanted nazism to be applied everywhere, so he had that as a symbol of universal nazism. His campaign flag looked like a rebel flag and they had a separate flag which looked like a Betsy Ross with a Swastika.
>>5466805
It already does have all the power. First past the post voting made it that way. Third parties aren't going to win, the two main parties block them out. There's a reason socialist Bernie is in Democratic party and the libertarian Ron Paul ran on the Republican party.
>>5466829
What I'm getting at is that there are two viable parties. The democrats (fully pozzed) and the Republicans (halfway pozzed). If you want /pol/-tier politics, join the republican party and change them. Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, and David Duke are all in the republican party for a reason
49c60a No.5466919
>>5466901
basically
MAKE THE GOP NATIONALIST AGAIN
077d3e No.5466930
>>5466901
>>5466855
I was thinking something like this
08fd9e No.5466952
>>5466930
I really like the former. Maybe if said third party could get an endorsement from The Donald himself they could take power.
000000 No.5466959
>>5466901
>Third parties aren't going to win, the two main parties block them out.
So you're saying the only option we have to beat the two main parties is to not take part in the process at all and come up with some different way to gain power.
>There's a reason socialist Bernie is in Democratic party and the libertarian Ron Paul ran on the Republican party.
And look what they've done to change their parties for the better!
…oh…wait…
49c60a No.5466960
>>5466930
the first one is really good
fe38d1 No.5466970
>>5466781
>The flag of the American Nazi Party should just be the flag, with perhaps swastikas in place of stars.
>swastikas in place of stars
>50 little swastikas in a little blue field
Goodness fuck that's and ugly fucking flag you're dreaming up. Just make it a modified version of the US Presidential seal. Make the eagle more brutalist, similar to a nazi-era Reichsadler, replace E Pluribus Unum with Molon Labe, and give the shield more straight edges and sharp angles, and maybe put a Confederate saltire in the blue field of the shield. Swastikas aren't American and can't be found in our Anglo heritage; it's silly to insert German symbols into another nation's nationalism.
f6cf64 No.5466985
>>5466970
> Make the eagle more brutalist, similar to a nazi-era Reichsadler,
I cannot even describe how glorious that sounds
e97bc2 No.5466995
>>5466901
> If you want /pol/-tier politics, join the republican party and change them. Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, and David Duke are all in the republican party for a reason
This. Again: entry-ism, but on local levels. If you guys really want to form a third party, do this in your state/area, appeal to other minor parties that align with your platform and then form a major political party. America's political system was designed to support the local over the federal; use it to your advantage.
And for God's sake, drop the swastikas.
>inb4 defeatist or shill
The swastika has a bad connotation in America, so rely on traditionally American symbols. If you want to make a fascist party, don't explicitly say it.
This guy >>5466970 has a pretty good idea too.
>Swastikas aren't American and can't be found in our Anglo heritage; it's silly to insert German symbols into another nation's nationalism.
America actually has a heritage. Use it. Use the fucking past to your advantage instead of LARPing with fringe parties that will only exist on the Internet.
49c60a No.5467016
>>5466995
'American nationalist party' is definitely one of the most neutral. It could have a clear mission statement like "put our country's needs first"
077d3e No.5467031
>>5467016
Yeah, Nationalist is good. You could probably use some less triggering words if you really wanted to though.
>>5466995
First one always reminds me of Estonia
18e5bf No.5467042
>>5466930
The eagle in that second picture would be really fucking nice on armbands, but at this point I think a lot of people would just consider armbands LARP tier.
Maybe persons within the party that achieve certain ranks would carry it on large flags in parades, rallies, etc. Also, that type of American symbolism would be perfect to fly on warships and whatnot.
077d3e No.5467044
>>5467031
Forgot to add
>first one
>no stars and stripes
You should automatically discard that
fe38d1 No.5467048
>>5467016
Agreed. I'd personally like to keep the name "national socialist", but Americans believe in a misguided but very strong correlation between socialism and marxism. Maybe "National Humanitarian" to better carry the idea that the original national socialists wanted to promote.
077d3e No.5467054
>>5467042
A-armbands are cool.
It could be incorporated into a battle flag though
18e5bf No.5467076
>>5467054
Yeah, doesn't have to be limited to one use though. I just really like the symbolism. Really nationalist, really strong.
though if you want real american the flag could just be the silhouette of a guy eating apple pie and getting a blowjob
731275 No.5467077
You would need to start a bipartisan grassroots effort from the local government level to abolish First Past the Post for third and fourth parties to be plausible. The downside of this is that the democratic politcians would become more left the upside is the republicans would be harder right.
e64f57 No.5467078
>>5466959
Do you know what splitting the vote is? It's where all the people with certain political ideologies go to different political parties and don't unify. If some /pol/acks are in the NWF, and some are in the American blackshirts, and some are in tradworker, eventually there is no way for /pol/ack beliefs to gain a majority. As for Ron and Bernie, those were just the only to examples of people who ran in their party while having very different beliefs from the rest of their party. There are other, more successful examples. Donald Trump is a paleocon while the repubs are mainly neocons, and he's definitely changed the party for the better.
>>5467016
>>5467048
I like "Republican Party"
>>5467042
Paramilitary stuff with ranks and armbands would just be creepy in America. A unique flag would be acceptable and new, though. If you went to rallies with handheld versions of the party flag and the American flag you'd stand out.
e97bc2 No.5467090
>>5467016
>'American nationalist party' is definitely one of the most neutral.
And it's a good start too. I even thought of reclaiming the title of "National Republicans" like back in the 1820s - 1830s and apply it to the modern day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Party
>>5467077 (checked)
f6958b No.5467103
>>5467077
>The downside of this is that the democratic politcians would become more left
Good! America only barely tolerates their shit right now. Imagine when they start pushing pedophile rights and only have black voters that need their food stamps to live.
e64f57 No.5467120
>>5467077 (checked)
Starting an "abolish the first past the post" movement going would be good and would lead to third parties making some actual lee-way. You could get Libertarians, Green Partiers, Third Positioners, and Constitution Parties on board. Socialists and BLM would also probably agree, but they're not at all significant, despite acting like they are.
08fd9e No.5467127
>>5466985
>>5466970
>>5466995
Made a simple update to the flag.
731275 No.5467135
>>5467120
Thats the idea, get Rs and Ds and all the third parties to start repealing FPtP
08fd9e No.5467145
>>5467135
>Thats the idea, get Rs and Ds and all the third parties to start repealing FPtP
The question is what would we replace it with ? Thoughts?
731275 No.5467167
>>5467145
Theres Alternative Vote, MMP, and Single Transferable Vote
e64f57 No.5467172
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>>5467145
Alternative (ranked) voting. Whoever gets the least number of first choice votes has their votes given to their voters second pic.
08fd9e No.5467174
>>5467042
>armband
Armbands could be used as a tool to break political correctness. It could be used to make a statement.
e97bc2 No.5467181
>>5467103
>the Democratic Party desperately pushes a pro-NaMBLA platform to stay relveant
>they get mocked relentlessly
>many retire in disgrace or start even more fringe parties
>these various warring socialist/communist groups don't even bother to unite, as they focus on irrelevant shit
>the GOP gets taken over by nationalists at the local level, the whole country over
>Republican Revolution: First Blood
>strict anti-Communist laws are enacted
>cultural Marxism and its derivatives are banned
>free helicopter rides, courtesy of RWDS
>meanwhile, there's an internal purge of the (((Neocons))) in the GOP
>right-wing, one party state established
>illegals deported, strict moratorium on immigration
>programs to increase white birthrates
>American autarky reestablished
>diplomacy with other nations
>Israel either quarantined or nuked
>Manifest Destiny time
>America annexes Canada and Central/South America, all the way to the Panama Canal, along with Cuba and the Bahamas
>they are populated with whites
>American Empire is established
>mfw America is made great again
000000 No.5467197
>>5467078
>Do you know what splitting the vote is?
Yes.
>If some /pol/acks are in the NWF, and some are in the American blackshirts, and some are in tradworker, eventually there is no way for /pol/ack beliefs to gain a majority.
No mainstream party will allow those with "/pol/ack beliefs" to gain power in the party.
Hell, even if someone does get in, the second their true beliefs are found out, they're out of the party.
Imagine how the party would react to someone being a holocaust denier in it…
>There are other, more successful examples.
Really, who?
>Donald Trump is a paleocon while the repubs are mainly neocons, and he's definitely changed the party for the better.
Trump hasn't changed the party at all. He hasn't even won the nomination, let alone the election.
That's assuming the party even lets Trump win the nomination and the system even lets him win the election. Time will tell though.
I get what you're saying though:
"Oh if we can just get into the party we can change it from the inside!"
Fact is, this system is rigged to keep people like us out. The Republican party leadership is on the verge of committing suicide to keep Trump out. What do you think they'd do if a NS was about to win under the (R) ticket?
The only reason Trump has gotten as far as he has is because he doesn't need their money to run. (not that I'm saying Trump is one of us, mind you)
Since the rest of us are not billionaires we don't have a chance.
It's their party, their rules.
I believe the solution has gone beyond "voting" at this point.
I just think it's going to take at least one more presidential election for most /pol/acks to understand that.
…I guess I'm just ahead of the curve.
08fd9e No.5467203
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>>5467172
Isn't Alternative ranked voting still susceptible to gerrymandering?
e97bc2 No.5467207
>>5467120
>>5467135
Should /pol/ contact Jill Stein, Chuck Baldwin, and other perennial third party candidates? Yeah, they're not as mainstream, but this movement could take off if given the right push.
>>5467197
>"Oh if we can just get into the party we can change it from the inside!"
So let's have people work on the inside and apply pressure from without then.
f6958b No.5467227
>>5467181
Awesome post, and it touches on the thing I think that might be able to end Marxism/liberalism once and for all. It's the thing we should turn all our minds to, in my opinion. The only outcome would be total Right dominance.
>It's simple: we turn the left on itself.
We use SJW tactics to make Marxists, feminists, gay rights activists, and all other left groups fight each other. The fractures are already there in their coalition. They get into internal spats all the time. We just need to fan those flames.
54a036 No.5467239
I think starting an entirely new party would by far be the most effective at a state level, where you can get seats in state house or senate and eventually governor or state representatives. From there you spread
000000 No.5467248
>>5467207
>So let's have people work on the inside
I already addressed that…
The second your true beliefs are found out, you're out of the party.
Even if you could even get in, in the first place.
>and apply pressure from without then.
They'll ignore you. As they've always done.
If protesting worked, all the whites would be slaves to the BLM terrorists by now.
077d3e No.5467253
>>5467127
Permit-able
>>5467203
First Past The Post is still better.
731275 No.5467264
>>5467253
>First Past The Post is still better
Fuck no it isn't, anything is better than FPtP
618afd No.5467274
>>5467127
Please do not arrange stars into a Hexagonal star of David.
e97bc2 No.5467276
>>5467227
>We use SJW tactics to make Marxists, feminists, gay rights activists, and all other left groups fight each other.
While leftists and their kind do fight all of the time with their own special snowflake version of "progress" or "socialism," it is always so much fun to have them tear at each other. I mean, the only thing keeping them together is their hatred of a perceived white Christian capitalist patriarchy or whatever. They're too weak. If socialists stayed true to workers - assuming they even cared about the working class - instead of focusing on spics and niggers while casting out the "rednecks" and "white trash" they would have a better base.
>>5467248
For me personally, I've been able to be a part of my GOP group for a while. I've said some borderline /pol/ish things and they still allow me in there. You'll just have to network or form your own chapter.
>>5467239
This right here.
f8d637 No.5467283
We meme Trump into forming a new party based around nationalism and populism. Call it the Nationalist Party. Make its symbol the bald eagle.
The terms Nazi and National Socialism are poisoned. So are swastikas.
077d3e No.5467300
>>5467264
>he thinks people actually know what's best for them
08fd9e No.5467301
>>5467274
The stars were that way before I edited it. I didn't really notice it until you pointed it out.
cafb2f No.5467310
Go back to the roots, the foundations of our Republic.
We don`t need to use symbolism devised by foreign political parties.
America is the Rome of our era, we forge a new path in our transition from the old Republic.
731275 No.5467313
>>5467300
>you think the two party duopoly has anything to offer the citizens
000000 No.5467319
>>5467276
>For me personally, I've been able to be a part of my GOP group for a while. I've said some borderline /pol/ish things and they still allow me in there. You'll just have to network or form your own chapter.
Yet you've no doubt had to conceal your true beliefs. Especially when it comes to the Jews.
How do you think the party would treat you if they found out you post on a site that believes Hitler did nothing wrong and believes the Holocaust literally did not happen?
077d3e No.5467322
>>5467313
>you think a single seat is going to do anything
f6958b No.5467328
>>5467319
Is there anyone on this board that hasn't had to hide their power levels when dealing with others?
618afd No.5467329
>>5467301
No problem. While the Deist men who started this nation had many Masons among them, and used the five-pointed star as a symbol of their connection to the higher power, they all hated Jewry.
e97bc2 No.5467337
>>5467319
>Especially when it comes to the Jews.
I've been critical of Israel at some points whenever the discussion comes up.
>How do you think the party would treat you if they found out you post on a site that believes Hitler did nothing wrong and believes the Holocaust literally did not happen?
I'm already a bad goy anyway. They probably wouldn't be surprised. Plus, people always put on a persona when dealing with others. On /pol/, that persona comes off.
731275 No.5467341
>>5467322
If Nigel Farage was in the UK Parliament his speeches would give him the opportunity to grow his party via defectors from the conservatives.
000000 No.5467348
>>5467328
>Is there anyone on this board that hasn't had to hide their power levels when dealing with others?
Not me.
But we're never going to accomplish anything by hiding our power levels forever.
e64f57 No.5467382
File: 1458447169889.jpg (1.09 MB, 2048x2650, 1024:1325, Miss-Alabama-Madison-Guthr….jpg)
>>5467283
National Socialism is never gonna be accepted in the US. We hate socialism here. Even George Lincoln Rockwell had a far more capitalistic version of Nazism than Hitler did.
>>5467310
I actually like this. Borrowing classic Americana is more effective than making our own symbolism or borrowing symbolism from other countries. An Appeal to Heaven, Unite or Die, Gadsden flags, and Betsy Ross flags are all good symbols for the movement. Everyone loves Americana.
000000 No.5467386
>>5467337
>I've been critical of Israel at some points whenever the discussion comes up.
Did you tell them that all funding to Israel should cease and that the Jews have too much influence in the media and in government?
>I'm already a bad goy anyway. They probably wouldn't be surprised.
Let's be honest, they would immediately ban you from the party in every capacity.
What do you think the liberals in the media would do if they found out a holocaust denier openly served in the Republican party and that the Party knew about it?
And then do you think the Republican party wants that kind of attention?
>Plus, people always put on a persona when dealing with others. On /pol/, that persona comes off.
You're not implying that we're all just role-playing here and that we really believe the Holocaust happened and Hitler was a monster, are you?
e97bc2 No.5467398
>>5467386
>You're not implying that we're all just role-playing here and that we really believe the Holocaust happened and Hitler was a monster, are you?
Uh, no. I'm saying that on boards like this people can discuss anything they want to. When out in public, people put on a more "civil" identity.
000000 No.5467435
>>5467398
>When out in public, people put on a more "civil" identity.
aka: hiding what they really believe to keep their positions of power and authority.
Eventually, if we're ever going to fix the actual problems of white civilization, we're going to have to start addressing the issues (IE: The Jews) publicly.
But the second we start doing that in either mainstream party, we'd be kicked out.
f6958b No.5467458
>>5467435
Should the Jews come first? They are evil, no doubt, but I think the order of GET THE FUCK OUT should be precisely engineered, to maximize utility and minimize resistance. My proposal would be:
>muslims
>Jews
>sexual deviants and degenrates
>ideological problems like Marxism, feminism, etc
e64f57 No.5467484
>>5467458
I agree with Muslims first. Ideological problems mixed with degenerates (they go hand in hand) second. Once you start cracking down on those,the people fundng them will become apparent. Jews third. Immediately after Jews, non-whites. Than we stopped coming for people because all our problems were solved!
1c918e No.5467504
>>5467382
We already have an American solution. It's called the American Way and it's National Capitalism. If you re-implement it while keeping some of the soft-socialist things we've implemented since going to free market economics, then we're pretty much golden.
e97bc2 No.5467518
>>5467504
>We already have an American solution. It's called the American Way and it's National Capitalism.
I'm glad to see this posted on /pol/ more and more. It doesn't get the respect it deserves, considering that it was a progenitor for the NSDAP economic program.
000000 No.5467542
>>5467458
>Should the Jews come first?
Are you kidding? The Jews are at the core of every problem the White race faces.
>>muslims
28) Jewish Promotion of Non-White Immigration into White Countries
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
>>sexual deviants and degenrates
27) Jewish Promotion of Homosexuality
29) Jewish Promotion of Pornography
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
>>ideological problems like Marxism,
23) Jewish Promotion of Communism
24) Jewish Promotion of Cultural Marxism
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
>feminism,
25) Jewish Promotion of Feminism
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
>etc
The Jews
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
Seriously! How new are you?
IT'S THE JEWS, STUPID!
1c918e No.5467551
>>5467518
It's a part of our history the globalists would rather not bring up.
5f0d65 No.5467557
>>5466724
We could, but that doesn't seem too likely. Two party system is good for both parties, as whenever something goes wrong the weaker party gets a chance to capitalize on that. With more parties in the mix, it's easier for any party to die. Maybe the new Republicans instate a new voting system, but along comes a super conservative party that splits votes from them. Proportional representation is good for voters that want a politician who represents their interests to be in a position of power, but bad for the powers that be as they face a lot more competition and have to make a lot more deals to form a coalition to get anything done.
MMP is a step in the right direction, but it probably wouldn't help get an "outsider" into power in the Senate or presidency. And multi-member congressional districts are currently illegal.
I think there's a strong case to be made for Range/Score voting. A very thorough case is made at rangevoting.org, but the basic idea is that it's the same as Olympic scoring, you give each candidate a score, and the candidate with the highest average score wins. This allows you to express your view on each candidate, and allows you to support your true favorite instead of voting strategically (i.e. the lesser of two evils tactic, so Nader voters don't end up electing Bush, Ron Paul voters could have supported him as a libertarian and not worry about helping Obama into power).
e97bc2 No.5467574
>>5467551
>It's a part of our history the globalists would rather not bring up.
Yeah, because it worked from the nation's founding up until WWII.
If /pol/ was to ever take over a lot of the GOP or form their own major party, the American Way needs to be the central economic plan for it, along with emphasis on the sciences, arts, and literature.
f6958b No.5467603
>>5467542
Of course it's the Jews. That's why you don't go at them first. You take away their weapons to strike back first. The others are their weapons and their armor. We take that, the Jews have no means to resist the expulsion of their influence.
000000 No.5467642
>>5467603
If you cut off the head of the snake, the body of the snake dies.
You're suggesting poking the snake while ignoring its head.
Not to mention for every ally of the Jews you take down, the Jews will just put another in its place.
54a036 No.5467651
>>5467574
arts that more appreciate the craftsmanship behind art and not the bullshit modern art is.
f6958b No.5467659
>>5467642
Well, it won't be either of us plotting the final strategy, so as long as we agree on who the enemies are, we can just agree to disagree on the rest. Let the big brains that can lead us out of this mess figure out who to take out first.
e97bc2 No.5467665
>>5467651
What the fuck is with those pics?
>hurr blacks built America
Fucking niggers want to take credit for everything.
54a036 No.5467666
>>5467651
better first picture
5f0d65 No.5467672
>>5467172
https://asitoughttobe.com/2010/07/18/score-voting/
Alternative voting doesn't actually work. Basically, what happens is that when a third party tries to break in, they take votes from the most similar main party, and before the third party can win an election, they cause the main party to lose an election and then their supporters learn to vote strategically in future elections. Australia has different voting in each house of its legislature, and the one with alternative voting is entirely two part dominated.
f6958b No.5467675
6ba754 No.5467701
>>5467651
>>5467666
Ironic, as this could be interpreted as the black letters shitting up white space until both are irrelevant.
6ba754 No.5467717
>>5467651
>>5467666
Ironic, as this could be interpreted as the black letters shitting up white space until both are irrelevant.
also
>no calculated right margin
>zero thought given to aesthetic beyond ITS WURDZ
laziness at its' best
5f0d65 No.5467730
>>5467120
>>5467135
>>5467207
I would really like to see some activism on changing the voting system. One group I've followed that seems to have the idea for what to put in place is the Center for Election Science, though I don't know how successfully they've pursued their agenda, the systems they support are the best for getting more representative politicians elected.
>>5467145
see rangevoting.org
54a036 No.5467761
>>5467675
I don't hate most impressionist art, despite them being the grandfather of modern art. It still regarded effort and merit over feelings and 'gripping social commentary'.
I took the picture of that cuck art at the Carnegie Museum of Art. Along with housing beautiful middle-ages art, architecture, and sculpting, it had some of the most pretensions trife I've ever seen. Pic related, "drain", which is just a drain plastered in drywall.
25f34f No.5467798
No nigger we need to take over the Republican part and purge the neocons.
f7d94a No.5467850
>No mention of the modern Whigs
e97bc2 No.5467866
>>5467850
I forgot about these guys, but don't you have to be a veteran to join? Or was it started by veterans?
b032a5 No.5467883
>>5467504
>National Capitalism
PALEOCONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS
92167c No.5468066
>>5465680
God Emperor makes THE best deals.
f81f60 No.5468075
>>5467666
Interesting art piece, Satan. Pointless black words ruining a perfectly good piece of white canvas.
e43c5e No.5468084
>>5468066
Kek bless these dubs.
b6450c No.5468445
>>5467504
Thank you for introducing me to this idea anon.
As much as I admired Germany, National Socialism just didn't really seem like a right fit for the United States
e96cea No.5468449
>>5468066
She's pretty and all…but probably not the best relative to promote/associate with Trump on this board.
I'm sure she's a nice person and all etc…
e96cea No.5468465
>>5468445
It's not a good fit for America. I can still appreciate Natsoc and it's ideas for Germany circa 1930's though.
I just realize it's not a fit for America in the current year….or even America in the 30's.
e97bc2 No.5468467
>>5468445
>National Socialism just didn't really seem like a right fit for the United States
That's because it was for a certain people at a certain point in time. The
American Way
is for Americans.
e97bc2 No.5468470
1a78b1 No.5468474
>>5467651
The artist couldn't even think up his own idea?
1a78b1 No.5468482
>>5468449
She runs her own business and blog and is pretty successful, she hires her own people and calls references. I'm not against some women working if they really want to but the EEOC shit where they get hired over a better man has got to stop. The old days had women writers and such but they had to be extremely excellent.
556466 No.5468514
>>5465359
This. We should take over the GOP, just like the far-left Marxists slowly took over the Democratic Party.
05c1db No.5468586
>>5466428
We need to create a guide on taking over local elections
5c88d2 No.5468958
Really it just depends on how the cookie crumbles.
This cycle we continue to support Trump full stop.
If they manage to coronate Romney instead, that's when this discussion becomes relevant.
After that, we may have a new Bull Moose Party. Either that or we'd hostile takeover another one and run Trump anyway.
After this cycle ends is when we start talking about if the Republican party is just done and needs to go the way of the Whig party or not. Or if we should finish pushing all the establishment people out of it.
289431 No.5469757
>>5465381
What do you think the global socialists did to it? This is just taking it back.
08fd9e No.5470046
>>5468586
This. I would like to participate in my local elections but I have no idea how to go about it and I suspect many others are in the same boat as I am.
37425d No.5470068
>>5465304
None, clappistanis are incapable of conceiving a multy-party system at this point.
The binary us vs them-mentality makes it easier to control them.
08fd9e No.5470113
>>5467016
There is already an American Nationalist Party
http://www.nationalistpartyamerica.com/
Perhaps we could go with 'American Nationalist Workers Party'.
68f2df No.5470126
>>5466681
I can get behind that, McAfee knows his shit about cyber-security.
08fd9e No.5470136
>>5470126
I think he would better serve as an advisor for Cyber security.
5c88d2 No.5475615
>>5466995
>America actually has a heritage. Use it.
Especially since we want the country we built to be ours again. So we can have a voice again.
5c88d2 No.5475873
>>5467145
>>5467167
>>5467172
Well shit, that doesn't even result necessarily in Parliamentary system.
With that, even if the Establishment cucks made a third party and ran it against Trump in the Republican Party, they wouldn't just hand the election to Hilary.
Even some of the diehard #NeverTrumpI'mSuperCucked people wouldn't have as much of a problem marking him down as a second choice.
5c88d2 No.5475920
>>5467181
You forgot to mandate the use of English in state instruction or whenever you interact with the state.
No more taxpayer based translators for alien students. which there still would be without new aliens
No more allowing Puerto Rico to coast by with Spanish, making them culturally distinct. They have more Spaniard blood in them than your typical spic, but that's not doing them any favors.
5c88d2 No.5476132
>>5467504
>American Way and it's National Capitalism
>>5467518
>>5467574
>If /pol/ was to ever take over a lot of the GOP or form their own major party, the American Way needs to be the central economic plan for it, along with emphasis on the sciences, arts, and literature.
I can follow what National Capitalism is by what it sounds like, and I am guessing that things like "The Richest Man in Babylon" are a part of it.
So is there a difference between that and American Way? I don't think I've heard of it before.
5c88d2 No.5476177
>>5467603
Fuck, I mean, even in India if you are not a citizen there, you cannot buy land, you cannot run a business, you cannot a laundry list of other things.
So why the fuck do we let oil mudslimes and chinks and kikes and everyone else buy as much land of ours as they want, take over as many businesses as they want, even take small stakes in media companies and let them change the core message that gets fed to us?
5c88d2 No.5476234
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>5467642
You attack what they are trying to do alone. They will expose themselves, and you don't need to take any risk.
It's as simple as saying George Soros did Arab Spring, and look what that got us, now he wants to target Trump with Democracy Spring.
Did you harp on him being a kike like an autist? No. But people listened and understood instead. They know that it's bad for them, and that supporting Trump to stop it is good. They only care about what to fix and how, not centuries of nuance about why it's broken and who did it.
They are exposing themselves like crazy just over the Wall.
If you want to waste your time falling into the Jewish Trap, that's your business.
5c88d2 No.5476314
>>5468482
> The old days had women writers and such but they had to be extremely excellent.
Which is totally fine.
Some of them want to pursue that instead of having children, which is wrong because they clearly have good genes. I just don't know how to handle allowing both, besides the fact that Ivanka pulled it off. Maybe that's just a cultural shift or something.
But yes, all kinds of affirmative action need to end. It's devolved into if white male then fuck off.
926f2e No.5494208