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9b07d9 No.5468858

I think it's time to debunk the debunkers.

Snopes is no doubt a shill site.

We need to make a metapedia esque website in the essence that it tells the truth with the motto: Who is factchecking the factcheckers?. It works like snopes but we refute their claims. Our research will include infographs and books and whatnot. We have all the information at our disposal on /pol/.

Getting sick and tired of people who think snopes is credible and are are too lazy to do their own research so they post snopes.

Truth seekers need to be able to refute snopsposting as conveniently as snopes users.

9b07d9 No.5468869

It has to be called Snopes4Snopes because it clicks a thought into people's minds when they realize that there is not a Snopes4Snopes.


324074 No.5468917

>>5468858

I have a free wordpress site setup (used my own AWS instance + apache) and am not sure what to do with it. Was thinking of starting a news blog, but I might shift to this with some help (vis a vis content, site architecture is easy for me). Though I was also thinking of running something against politifact.

I can get either snopes4snopes.com or politifactfact.com. Any ideas?


324074 No.5468942

>>5468917

>>5468869

Also it doesn't have to be with wordpress, can spin up a dynamic site that is more suited to this using django/bootstrap etc.

If we're going down that route if anyone is also knowledgeable in these things we can work together.


9b07d9 No.5468970

>>5468942

Naw it can't be wordpress, it has to be a website and maybe a wiki to be taken a bit more seriously. But people will always look for credentials.

Any grads out there willing to be authors?


324074 No.5468987

>>5468970

A lot of serious websites run on wordpress but I agree in the sense that it's not exactly an ideal platform for this.

In terms of something that would be especially dynamic, I was thinking of something like this:

The front page is a simple page with nothing but a search bar and a few words. You paste a URL to a snopes article or the title of a snopes article into the search bar. If there's a debunk article in the website, it's loaded. If not, the option to make one on the wiki is given.

Good articles from the wiki can be transferred to the main site, but the main site should never directly link the wiki pages (so we can vet them) but will have a link to the wiki front page.


9b07d9 No.5469041

>>5468987

That's a good concept. They should be able to type the keywords or url. But I do want it to kind of emulate snopes' frontpage. But Instead make it look less clickbaity.

>Good articles from the wiki can be transferred to the main site, but the main site should never directly link the wiki pages (so we can vet them) but will have a link to the wiki front page

But again, there are many people who will not trust a wiki. They need to see and examine the bias of the author.


324074 No.5469055

>>5469041

Snopes actually runs on wordpress (I'm talking the software not the ".wordpress.com" domain stuff) so if you want it to look like snopes that's pretty easy.


324074 No.5469072

File: 1458466534732.png (28.52 KB, 1241x585, 1241:585, snopes4snopes.png)

>>5469041

Also here's something I drew up as a front site layout plan. If we're going to be talking layouts, it's best if we start swapping visuals, anything hand drawn or mocked up in paint is good.


9b07d9 No.5469144

File: 1458467567886.png (44.43 KB, 869x374, 79:34, snopes4snopes.png)

>>5469072

Would this count as infringement?


0bf03b No.5469152

>>5469144

Snopes is owned by actual Jews, so of course :^)


324074 No.5469154

>>5469144

There's a good chance that the phrase "Snopes4Snopes" counts as infringement.


324074 No.5469160

>>5469152

We could make this about Snopes, Politifact and all the others with a more general name.


9b07d9 No.5469175

>>5469160

Yes, and we could turn it into sections for each site.

Snopes4Snopes, Politifact Fact, Fact Heck


9b07d9 No.5469201

>>5469160

Yes, and we could turn it into sections for each site. Having it as as section/tab instead of a site itself would really avoid infringement since it is content(reviewing brands) not being a brand itself.

Snopes4Snopes, Politifact Fact, Fact Heck.


324074 No.5469223

>>5469201

That actually sounds a lot better. Also if there is any lawsuit they can't nuke the site, we just update the headings.

As for a site title, there's a Latin saying from the poet Juvenal: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes". Which means "Who guards the guards?". Perhaps some play on words of this would be good, like "guardofguards.com"


9b07d9 No.5469295

>>5469223

GuardofGuards sounds too much like a game.

How about Thought Guard or Fact Guard or Factection?

Honestly I think /pol/ can come up with a better name if we make a thread asking them.


0bf03b No.5469374

>>5469223

Sounds LARPy.

Factcustodian.com or some shit,

factopedia :^)

forfactssake

I dunno, it should roll nice on the tongue, be easy to write, and preferably able to be verbified (used as a verb, like google)


58f979 No.5469558

>>5469374

FactKnox

Facttress

Truthbrush

Something to say "Who fact checks the fact checkers?"


503db1 No.5469945

>>5469558

>Facttress

I think this one is pretty good. Rolls off the tongue, easy to verbify (I saw that on snopes, let me factress it) and it could be a conjunction of a couple of things, which I think makes it easier to remember.


503db1 No.5469959

>>5469558

>Facttress

I think this one is pretty good. Rolls off the tongue, easy to verbify (I saw that on snopes, let me factress it) and it could be a conjunction of a couple of things, which I think makes it easier to remember.

Fix your board burning tires


9b07d9 No.5470282

Bump.

We need names for the site. Please help.


1f372b No.5470359

>>5469959

We need a Factress Girl logo and mascot for the site


fbf8ec No.5470372

That's a good idea but we should start with the worst Snopes articles. (I wouldn't go into the conspiracy theories articles because it would be a waste a lot of time trying to figure out what's true and what's false).

For example look at the article on Clock Boy Ahmed, the poor misunderstood muslim who was the victim of Texan intolerance:

https://archive.is/et7xj


815f05 No.5470403

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Sorry if any of this has been posted already.

Snopes is a husband and wife outfit run by a couple of Jews.

They're far-left and specialize in apologetic "debunks" of anything which makes non-Whites look bad.

A memorable example of this (aside from the recent Gex 'debunk') is their putative refutation of the Chinese baby-eating artist Zhu Yu.

Snopes stated that he did not infact use real babies to make his soup but that rather, the photographs showed a "Duck's head on a toy doll's body". No evidence whatsoever was provided for this and yet the article was used to really take the steam out of the spreading red pill.

Snopes use a very manipulative psychological tactic of ambiguity to avoid being held accountable, they write suggestively then leave it up to the reader to fill in the blanks.

In the case of Yu, they stated that his demonstration was "art", from which the reader is meant to make the unfounded leap to "art is never real." This is what most people did.

There is actually no controversy regarding the fact that Zhu Yu used read aborted babies. He admitted it in interviews and explained how it was possible to exploit "the space between what is legal and what is moral" (paraphrasing there.) In other words, his art exceeded the bounds of propriety but not so much as to enter the territory of illegality. Pretty interesting.

Anyway, I digress. As someone who was trying to spread the truth about Yu and "eating people" back around c.2004, only to be met with citation after citation leading to snopes, I took it upon myself to uncover the truth. FYI, I almost got banned from Stormfront for it. Stormfront routinely adopts a similar attitude of protectionism towards non-whites, for PR purposes.

The main objection is simply that "it can't be real". Normies, even right-wing normies, are so shielded from the less pleasant aspects of reality, that behaviours we have probably all witnessed, tortures, cannibalism, sexual depravity of the most extreme kind, they fall outside of the normie Overton Window and are therefore subject to an argument from incredulity.

Finally, around last year sometimes, I started posting a debunk of Snopes article on Zhu Yu, contrasting the artist's own statements of fact with the Snopes unfounded claims about a "doll's head". The article, which had remained unaltered for years, was then edited by snopes to hide their deceit.

>original version with "Doll's head" claim

https://archive.is/Pwpo4

>latest version, revised to hide unskeptical speculation.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.asp

(looks like they reinserted the 'doll's head' thing, probably because the cover-up was revealed a few months ago)

I wanted to link the proof but look at this: SNOPES HAVE HAD THE PAGE EXCLUDED FROM WAYBACK MACHINE,.


815f05 No.5470412

>>5470403

Don't click the snopes hyperlink unless you want them to find this thread.

I guess that's how they found out they'd been busted before and got the wayback machine to censor their page.


815f05 No.5470434

>>5470372

The Zhu Yu article is pretty good because it totally contradicts the artist's own statements.


8ca9a0 No.5470444

>>5468858

Just deny everything that you friend says is true from snopes. Just make up shit like he is. Say "Oh, fuckin they found out snopes is full of shit" and if he or she asks who then say "Harvard did peer review were they found out 45% of what the state is untrue" After you say this you friend should STFU and YOU WIN


1b2698 No.5470596

>>5470403

>Stormfront routinely adopts a similar attitude of protectionism towards non-whites, for PR purposes.

>Stormfront

>PRfagging

Really? I've never been to Stormfront but do they really do that?


fa23e5 No.5470825

>>5470596

>I've never been to Stormfront but do they really do that?

Stormfront is far more politically correct than /pol/. That doesn't mean the stuff there isn't good.


fa23e5 No.5470835

>>5470825

>*isn't good though.

Came out sounding like a snub.


37c4e0 No.5470952

>>5468858

good idea because normies treat snopes as some sort of infallible source, when in reality its just a couple of kikes operating out of their home

let me post hotwheels you faggot cripple kikecunt


8b80d8 No.5473766

the names so far are pretty bad, you should have something more clever that you can brand more easily.

CurrentYearCheck

SourceCheck

BehindTheBias

SourcesPlease

PeerReviewPerfidy

AnonCheck

get creative


921268 No.5477737

Bump this shit. Needs to happen.


d7a1cb No.5478456

What if we had a site with sections for each site debunked? Like how the chans have their own individual boards, this site would have sections for each liberal site they debunk. So it would be "factress.com" and it could have snopes4snopes, countering snopes; politifiction, countering politifact; irrational wiki, countering rational wiki; and others.


d7a1cb No.5479212

>>5473766

These names are pretty good too


ad0f6a No.5480744

>>5478456

>What if we had a site with sections for each site debunked? Like how the chans have their own individual boards, this site would have sections for each liberal site they debunk. So it would be "factress.com" and it could have snopes4snopes, countering snopes; politifiction, countering politifact; irrational wiki, countering rational wiki; and others.

Suggested here: >>5469201

Also I preemptively purchased factknox because factress was taken. They're only $15 each so it's not a big deal, if we change later it's fine.

Also any more >>>/tech/ here? We can set up a slack with burner emails and start hashing out the technical side.


3080b3 No.5480828

>who is factcheking the factcheking the factcheking the factcheking the….

>fear mongering to paranoid conspiracy people

Yea, no…we just let people say whatever and let other decide if it holds any.value or plausable truth


9b07d9 No.5480979

>>5470444

>>5480828

>let people say whatever and let other decide if it holds any.value or plausable truth

No that's retarded.

Humans are too retarded. I would rather have a speedy option to mindbreak(ygo) them then leave them to be retarded for a long time. Probably forever.


59ef22 No.5481137

"SAUCE PLEASE"

A play off of Reddit fags.

Then make the first article "Holocaust Wall in Washington"

Fabricate article.

Recently, with the success and profitability of the popular, Vietnam Memorial Wall, Anti-genocide proponents ((( insert Senators and Congressmen here))) have included funding in next years Defense Budget for a Jewish Memorial Wall.

Initially, the worry was that there would not be enough room in Washington for a wall of 6 million Jewish names, let alone the other ethnicities who are casually ignored, but the actual discrepancy was not about logistics.

The 6 million is an estimate and not verifiable by the Red Cross or any secret Nazi ledgers.

Not only do Notable World War II historians and Holocaust survivors disagree on the actual unverifiable death toll, but this number has always been questionable since 1944.

SAUCE PLEASE: The 2015 Fiscal year 3 Billion Dollar payment to Israel is governed via Foreign Military Funding and does not include an Israel Memorial Wall.

The exact number of Jews whose cause of death is directly attributed to German Death Camps has been and continues to be in flux - even over 70 years later.

Please note, please be aware of strict anti Holocaust laws in Germany and Australia, although the acceptable statements to avoid prosecution appear to be "around 6 million" or "in excess of 6 million"

Simply stating 5 million may result in jail time in these countries, without bail. Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Switzerland, the Netherlands


f149cd No.5481150

snopes was always a shit site.


2b78de No.5481227

For content I recommend starting off with a page for every one of the articles in the snopes archive. To begin with, each is a simple "Unverified: this article has not yet been reviewed for accuracy. If you have evidence for/against its veracity, click here to submit it". Then, on the front page you highlight "latest disproven" and "latest confirmed", with perhaps 5 entries in each (to give the impression it's a 50/50 chance of them putting out a truthful article). Remember that usually they do put out legit debunks if it's an inconsequential internet rumour.




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