/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

first for an end to degeneracy

>>5482109

what does that lead to, exactly? A totalitarian government where I can't fuck my wife in the ass if I want?

For our people, our nation, our culture.

Kill all jews, remove all traces of marxism and its effects.

>>5482113

see, you are a straight male having sex with his straight wife.

boring normalfag spotted.

thinking hetero wife sex is degenerate.

wew

how about ending gay sex in the streets of san francisco where children are allowed to see nude faggots and dykes, or teaching children about two mommies two daddies or moms who were born with a wee-wee. the left wants to encourage this, because we are all free and equal, the right wants to end it because we should be free from forced faggotry.

You can't ask us what our "end-game" is, because we don't know. We simply dont want overwhelming degeneracy, mentally-ill transpeople and our borders and people being ripped apart. At least that's what I feel.

[spoiler]The endgame for a majority here is probably a fourth reich[spoiler]

>liberals:NOOO STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY COMPLETELY COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST IN UR SOCIETY TOO, NAZIS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>some faggot bothered to make that.

>>5482101

There is no left or right, lurk more.

Tell me why should a Libertarian and a Fascist be adjacent to eachother on a spectrum?

>>5482115

Ok so where does that get us? We have our nation and our culture, cool. Is the end goal of right wing thought the improvement of humanity by restricting differing (perhaps inferior) ways of life?

OK, I can get behind that, so tell me - is the end game of right wing thought to maintain hegemony? Should we be practicing eugenics?

>>5482131

Sodomy is still illegal in a bunch of states, is that right?

>>5482144

OK so you have a view o how society should be, and you don't want anyone else to tell you how society should be. I understand that, but is it better if all the fags and mom-dads are in hiding?

You know, the end game here is that people are gonna people, and you can't actually stop them. So that's why I ask, what utopia is it that you seek?

>>5482145

If you don't have an end game, you're not even playing, senpai. I would love for the end game to be the betterment of all humanity, but I am unsure how best to proceed.

I guess in the end most of just want to get rid of the jews and what the jews stand for.

>>5482167

>betterment of all humanity

How about just European descendant humanity?

>>5482167

You're a fucking dumbass who's already made up his mind, I'm calling it now.

You're already injecting your own rationalisms into other peoples arguments, and you're going to continue to do this.

>>5482101

I don't agree with that image, for one religion is inherently Left wing.

Overarching theme of individuality I can agree with though.

>>5482167

>Sodomy is still illegal in a bunch of states, is that right?

Nope. Lawrence v Texas, 2004. All anti-sodomy laws declared unconstitutional.

>>5482188

Pretty much. It's obvious. That's why answers should only come in the form of irrefutable facts.

The goal of the left is not just a one world government but a one world government controlled by the Jews where the goyim are racially homogenized into a brown unremarkable mass that willingly serve their kike masters.

The end game of the right is the removal of kikes from relevance ( kill them if we have to ) and allow the order of separate nations. Northern Europe will naturally rise to the top in this scenario because of genetics.

>>5482162

I understand, but as far as I know Libertarianism and Fascism are both on the right. I am trying to figure out how the pieces on the board are played. I understand there are nuances, but here's the kicker;

The left wing is pretty blatant about everyone being treated equally, leading to people being free, which has caused no end of trouble.

The right is pretty blatant about having less government, leading to people being free, which has caused no end of trouble.

The left idealises a large(r) that controls all of the necessary functions of a state, such as economy, trade, defense etc.

We know that in practice this leads to a small number of party faithful that do as they will with the country, often to the detriment of the poor.

>>5482196

Give me to me. Is it really "Don't Tread on Me?"

>>5482167

Why should we have an endgame? Im no fucking mastermind or puppeteer. Is it now all of a sudden wrong of me for having the beliefs I have just because I cant paint up my ideal society 50 years from now?

You seem pretty retarded.

>>5482211

>Give me to me.

wut …

Both wings are just tools of the globalists. Only thing matters is your nation. Economic matters can solved when we aren't under constant threat of oblivion.

>>5482220

you know what i meant

>>5482219

The people who control us have an end game. I want to know if it's more than just maintaining the status quo, which is kinda shit for anyone who isn't rich.

>>5482211

>about everyone being treated equally

that's not it.

their ideological lineage is judeo-christian, their ideas of "equality" come from the ideas of humans being "souls" not just biological machines. Which they're wrong about of course.

>>5482226

Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?

>>5482238

GET OUT MUD

>>5482211

There is no Left vs Right really

It is Aryan vs Jew, everything else is a function of this. Some aspects of libertarianism are incredibly Jewish ( open borders, materialism ) while others are not ( gun ownership ).

>>5482239

Nah I'm Australian, second only to Sweden in cuckedness. The country is a mess, and I'm trying to figure out why.

>>5482230

>you know what i meant

No, I don't. "Give me to me" makes zero sense.

>>5482219

I think the problem is that OP is thinking in terms of black and white, left and right; without realizing the complexity of social change.

For example, look at his pic. The "left" in the pic says to "interfere with social lives", but it's the "right" who wants to put government in the bedroom and control the private lives of citizens. Also, the left says "Democrats", but that doesn't take into account the Blue Dog Democrats and Dixiecrats - both of whom are very right wing conservative.

There's just too much there that makes no sense to a person who can see the broader picture and not stay focused on an individual tree in a forest.

>>5482247

>>5482238

Colonial mutts can jump in the sea and drown for all I care.

>>5482211

So a supposedly right wing NatSoc such as myself wants a smaller government as a defining principle? But an anarchist whos catagorically left wing is still left wing despite wanting as little governance as possible?

Do you still not understand that you are arguing under a false notion?

The pieces don't fit because its easier for people to thiink of terms of false dichotomies than it is to think about the principles that govern an ideology.

>>5482247

>I'm Australian

NOW it makes sense. It's always an Australian,

>>5482230

No it's not about maintaining the status quo. The current status quo is 1 million sandniggers flooding into Sweden + Germany, the current status quo is a LGBTQI-person in every commercial, in every tv-show etc.

I just want my country, free from foreign people, free from lgbtq-propaganda, free from muh selfie-culture.

>>5482101

>scientists, professors, architects

>left wing

lel

>>5482243

Is this just a natural development of the spectrum? How can I choose what is best for me and my wife and son?

>>5482253

Give 'it' to me

Sorry!

I just want to know what's best for me and my family, and I have discovered that my previous left-wing ideals are leading us into a one world government, and I don't fucking like it.

The anarchists, the punks, all the hippies, they have all been co-opted into the NWO before they even knew it was happening.

I want some goddamn freedom, and I want it my way (whatever the fuck that is)

>>5482238

>Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?

It doesn't. It matters when you're sullying our societies with your presence however.

>>5482264

Sorry.

>>5482101

if Left Vs Right don't refer to the real divide which is Nationalism Vs Globalism then we should stop using these concepts

>>5482287

I am half Danish and quarter Swedish. The blood of warriors flows in my veins.

>>5482291

Why is my country better than yours? Is it just about power?

>>5482301

Why?

>>5482286

Racial homogeneity and strong leadership are the most important things ( this applies to whether you are white or a shitskin doesnt matter ), and never trust a kike. That's about it if one were to keep it simple. If a politician claims to be "right" or "conservative" but does not advocate against immigration/forced integration just bin that cunt.

>>5482302

Why what?

>>5482309

Why are liberal democrats the lowest form of politicians?

>>5482291

Both are globalists in most countries. The left just thinks they bite off the chain hold by the rich corporate globalists if they bark at nationalists enough.

>>5482298

Just jump in the Indian Ocean already. It's not matter of your nation (which you don't have, being a colonial) being the best, it's about your nation being the only one you got.

>>5482316

Are you still going to ignore the refutation?

>>5482258

>>5482303

>>5482317

That's no longer true, I can hold 2 passports if I want, and gain entry to many countries. Most Aussies have some ability to get at least one second citizenship if the apply, from Britain or Europe.

It seems to me that the right is afraid that they'll lose what they have, and the left is hopeful of what they will gain. Would you say that's correct, at least in part?

I am still trying to figure out why I should make my nation a bastion of all that is right and true, when I know that nobody in government can be trusted.

At this point in time the Globalist vs Nationalist dynamic is THE agenda. Left and right mainstream parties want globalism, as well as the far left. Only the much to be feared far right parties want sovereignty and nationalism.

Globalist capitalism and globalist communism lead to the same things. Wages, prices, laws and values harmonized worldwide. China, Russia, Poland, Hungary, etc. - former Communist countries - are actually more nationalist than many Western nations who idealize international organisations such as the UN. Former communist nations are not so easily fooled by the appeal to humanitarian causes that these organisations use to soak up Western support.

The difference, as explained in the video, is the the mainstream right parties want to lead globalism by force and the left want to promote it through international organisations and multilateral action.

National socialists and libertarians seem to share the belief in sovereignty and nationalism (to a lesser extent for libertarians) above such globalist agendas, they're the true alternative.

>>5482332

I understand what you're saying, but you're hiding behind your own labels.

I don't understand what's going on., but I want to know why a NatSoc government is preferable, in the long run.

I don't really understand what the dichotomies between left and right are, or if they even exist, so I'm asking for help here, and I haven't received that many credible answers. I want to know why homogeneity is preferable, and what the end game of a right wing government is. I cannot yet see it as any more than the maintenance of power, of the status quo. That seems, to me, to be the catch-cry of who MIGHT lose what they have. I want to know what the end game is, that's all.

>>5482369

Watching this now, will get back to you

>>5482369

Does what you're saying equate to Imperialism ( so that all other people will WANT to live like us)?

>>5482109

>>5482113

The easiest way to think of degeneracy is to picture rot. When something tits it weakens the whole and creates a miasma around whatever is rotting. The social effect of degeneracy is therefore a weakening of fundamental social institutions while those who struggle to maintain the norm lose faith in the institutions they try to adhere to.

If you look at Trump as an abti-degeneracy candidate, you would see that he's standing against general degeneracy within America and is appealing to the normal people who recognize that there's something wrong with America.

>>5482377

>hiding behind labels

Those 'labels' are ideologies, and ideologies are more real than the scale you posit to measure them. There is no left or right, and if you can't see the inherent necessity of homogenity, than you need only examine the history of nations that lost that homogenity.

Nations only function efficiently if everyone is moreso on the same page, individual cultures driven by their ethnic and religous history will have incompatibilities with groups unlike them.

The focus does not matter aslong as there is one, there can't be one when the nation is in a state of turmoil.

>>5482399

The video is a bit long and a lot of it is off track of my point, but worth a watch if you have time. The really relevant parts is where he outlines the differing 'grand strategies' of the US on the left and the right, the point being, they're both globalist.

>>5482419

Grand stategies explanation comes at around 10:50 in.

>>5482101

What a stupid, pigeonholing image. We really need to stop with the dichotomy garbage.

>>5482418

Do you think, if you had the fortune or misfortune to be born in Somalia, or Israel, that you would consider yourself to be so superior?

How can we bridge those divides and still maintain our homogeneity?

What you are talking about is power over everyone else who deals with you, which is - perhaps- human. Is that what you're saying? Dominate the globe?

>>5482408

Of course, in using such a definition of degeneracy it becomes evident that degeneracy changes amongst people depending on their own firm belief in what makes a fundamental social institution.

A left wing uber-cuck for example might see race-mixing and raising another's children as inherently noble acts, and the discrimination against multi-racial couples, monogamy, and a father's right to patent as degenerate.

>>5482421

I'm really enjoying it, no fear

>>5482426

Please explain what 'beyond that' means

>>5482408

Of course, in using such a definition of degeneracy it becomes evident that degeneracy changes amongst people depending on their own firm belief in what makes a fundamental social institution.

A left wing uber-cuck for example might see race-mixing and raising another's children as inherently noble acts, and the discrimination against multi-racial couples, monogamy, and a father's right to parent as degenerate.

>>5482418

I'll go further - 75% of Israelis are jews, are they the poster child for your homogenous nation? What about Japan, where more adult diapers are sold than children's diapers? What do you mean?

>>5482458

Do you consider yourself right wing or conservative? What are your beliefs?

This chart smells like bullshit to me. You can't just put a bunch of charactaristics on the left or right side

I hate it when people use muh left wing or muh right wing. Nothing but a tool to try and shut people up like the word racist when you argue with someone who seems to be on the other side of some sort of spectrum.

>>5482475

POL, ave no beliefs. You have disappointed me. You have only fear, fear of what may come if you let your guard down. Fear that you might have to change.

You are all pitiful. You face so many threats, but the greatest threat is your own fear of yourselves, and the fear you may lose what you have.

You have no problem with terrorists, yet you fear them to the point of funding your government billions of dollars to fight them.

You are not hated by anyone, the rest of the world is trying to get by and you keep fucking with them.

The chart doesn't matter, it was just an image. No-one has refuted it or offered another one, so I am still in the dark - what is the point of conservatism, except for maintaining a power base.

I don't want to push for NWO, I think we'll all be truly reamed, but I can't fight for the homogeneity of Australia either, because it just didn't exist 300 years ago. Who knows what will happen in 300 years from now. What the fuck should I fight for? Some goddamn conservative puritan values? Should I fight for the Queen, is that supporting conservatism?

Whatever, it doesn't matter. Someone convince me why I should fight for some goddamn 50's Happy Days values and I will. All charts are bullshit. Trump is a billionaire who has snorted all the coke and fucked heaps of degenerate women. You are all supporting hegemony that only provides for all of the amazing benefits you have right now, like low wages, staggering rent, minimal problem.

If I were you, I'd start wondering how the goddamn Mexicans might improve your shitty country, rather than asking when it is you'll start pumping gas or building shitty apartments or less than minimum wage.

You have already lost, I think.

What really spins me out is that from the replies in this thread the greatest country in the world in North Korea (relatively self-suficient, aside from starvation), followed by Israel, Japan and China. They don't give a fuck about the west, it blows me away.

Final (and first) question: How can right wing thinking win? What's the end game? How can this ideal become manifest?

>>5482352

Your passport doesn't give you a nation, you dog.

>>5482582

tl;dr

>>5482286

>I want some goddamn freedom

You have some.

>and I want it my way

That's where the problem comes in. You can have it your way provided your freedom doesn't infringe on someone else's. You have to define your freedom before you can have it, though.

>>5482582

Prove me wrong, show me what the ideal you want is. DON'T TELL ME WHAT IT ISN'T, you faggots.

I want to know what the benefit of limiting manufacturing and produce IN COUNTRY is, or is it in the best interests of the country in question to trade freely so that corporations (not governments) make all the profit, and hence get all the power.

>>5482455

Whether it's good for us or not is the question.

>>5482654

Well what the fuck IS the question?

>>5482582

>How can right wing thinking win? What's the end game? How can this ideal become manifest?

It can win but only so long as there isn't a bigger tougher guy on the block to take it from them. Bigger and tougher these days means scientifically advanced. Most countries in the world merely replicate the advancements made by Western nations. This shouldn't be hard.

The end game is that each country has it's own set of values, people and culture.

It can come around by choosing the 'offshore balancing' strategy as presented in the video. By preventing regional hegemons you successfully prevent challengers to your power without trying to dominate the world which is futile and leads to self-sacrificial policies such as multiculturalism.

>>5482674

You wouldn't understand. As a colonial peon, you exist only for economic interest of the elite, you have no heritage, your blood isn't tied to the soil you walk on.

>>5482674

14/88

>>5482691

You're no different, slave.

>>5482682

Ok, so we're all fighting to maintain our own set of (handed-down and mis and/or re-interpreted beliefs, in the hope that this will lead to a stronger, more secure platform/nation-state.

I can run with that.

Do you think it's truly for the greater good, or is it a battle between the most powerful nation-state versus an entire global government state?

>>5482101

>left

>personal freedom

>would ban you owning a glock 17

OP that .png is fucking shit.

>>5482717

If it's the former, don't you think China should win?

>>5482443

>>5482475

You fucking retard, stop injecting your reasoning into other peoples arguments. Not once did I mention anything about superiority, I stated that nations function better when its citizens are alike. Every peoples should have their own nation, whether they be white, african, asian and yes even Jews.

A Jewish state is the answer to yhe international wandering Jew, the problem with Israel is that they retain their intermingling with every other nation. Every people should value their own above others, to do otherwise is pathological altruism.

>>5482717

>You're no different, slave.

You are wrong in that. Please end your existance. Even the abo sniffing petrol has more worth than you.

>>5482717

>Do you think it's truly for the greater good, or is it a battle between the most powerful nation-state versus an entire global government state?

I don't see how a global government can ever be good. Most government is too centralized as it is when it should be more local and accountable. Centralized government is easily corrupted because the cost of corrupting them is so much less, so much quicker and easier than having to corrupt every local official in a country.

On top of this global government would mean compromising massively on values and the eradication of cultural differences. Multiculturalism always leads to monoculture, look at any past civilization. Nationalism actually protects cultural differences as long as it isn't intent on global domination.

The Chinese and Russians recently signed a joint declaration stating their intent to respect different cultures and values. Meanwhile the US and EU try to homogenize the world through non-governmental organisations. Ask the Chinese and Russians if they want world government. You simply can't have it unless everyone is on board.

The plan is insane and will be the end of Western rule if we don't cut it out. Foreign people, cultures and values will push out the very things which made our countries prosperous and powerful in the first place.

>>5482101

>What is the end game, for the right wing? What is the end game for the left wing?

It doesn't matter.

The left/right dichotomy is nothing more than a smokescreen to distract the common man.

The real political breakdown of every nation in the world is nationalist/globalist.

>>5482475

I consider myself a leftist plant in the alt-right serving as a double agent to.no.one in particular.

>>5482101

The "end game" of "right wing" ideology is simple in concept, complex in practice

The simple concept, is the preservation of basic rights to ensure the people, not the power brokers, direct society in the way they choose, but without ever sacrificing the individual liberties that ensure their freedom and prosperity

In practice, what this would mean, is that the nation itself can take any direction it wants, as long as the basic foundations of liberties are not taken away.

Look at Nazi Germany, it was socialist and by all accounts in modern thinking, SHOULD be considered left wing on that basis. HOWEVER, its consider right wing? Why? Because they held to the ideas of liberty in general, at least to start. From there, they directed themselves and did what they thought was best for the society

Likewise, by all world views, the US is "right wing" and many consider the democrats in the US to be "moderate right," yet we view them as far left, at least this was true 5 years ago, so why? Because, in principle, even the left in the US held to basic principles of liberty. Free speech, self defense, protection from government over reach, direction of society by the people, etc. Even democrats in general supported these ideas, hell most democrats until recently still supported gun rights. While the rest of the world? Well, they dont really have free speech, or self defense rights, or protection from their governments, the powers that be can do as they please, and the people have no power to fight back using a constitution, because most of them dont HAVE one.

So, that part is simple, what gets complicated, is when the "society" starts directing more and more power to the government, and starts wanting to take away liberties. Thats when the "right wing" basis of the society fails. Think of the old saying "i may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Well, what do we have going on right now? People demonstrating and using their free speech, to try to TAKE AWAY free speech. In defense of free speech, we have to let them do this, but at the same time, the thing we're defending, is ATTACKING us.

At that point, "sides" break down. And you're left with two basic mindsets. Authoritarianism, and Libertarianism. Either the government is all powerful and can use violence to enforce the so-called "will of the people," or the government is limited and people are protected from such things.

Which, going back, to answer your question. Means that the "end game" of leftism will be, as you said, an all power government directing the lives of the people and enforcing "left wing" will on the people, and "left wing" will be whatever the sheep are indoctrinated with. While the "end game" of right wing ideology, is actually, self destruction, because they will always fight for liberties, that "left wing" people will use against them, and lead back to this problem once again.

>>5482749

This anon knows what's up.

>>5482238

>Why does what fucking shithole I was born in matter?

That's not what a nation is, retard. Your nation is your race or ethnicity.

>>5483038

Humanity as a whole would be richer with both. Diversity is our strenght, diversity leads to more diverse arts and culture. Nationalism the way to safeguard diversity, globally, in the hopes we eventually spread to the stars and can have a planet for every nation, be it nigger, whitey or native American.

>le left vs right maymay

is this your first day on /pol/ shill?

>>5483132

Your ethnocentrism is disgusting and I assume you are just another filthy colonial mongrel.

>>5483143

>ethnocentrism

>mongrel

thanks for the slide thread, kike.

>>5483149

Did I hurt your feelings, you minimal worth economic unit?

>>5483162

Ethnocentrism isn't racism, it's just what you ignorant heritageless colonial fucks tend to do.

>>5483198

Arts and culture aren't product of logic, but you wouldn't know this, being without your own heritage and culture.

>>5483204

>Arts and culture aren't product of logic

Yeah, that's because they're products of race, dipshit

>>5483204

>Arts and culture aren't product of logic

I never implied they were. I said simply that Western culture was not improved by the addition of niggers and Jews and it would likely be improved by their removal from Western societies.

>but you wouldn't know this, being without your own heritage and culture.

America is older than almost every country in Europe :^)

>>5483225

Your tendency to attribute something to race shows the lack of nation. Pan-white nationalism or any other such pan-racial nonsense is just what you colonial fuckers try to use to substitute the lack of nation you worthless colonial scum have.

>>5483236

Not everything is about western culture. Non-western cultures existing doesn't have to affect western culture. Assuming this shows ignorant ethnocentrism.

>America is older than almost every country in Europe :^)

And American nation doesn't exist, so what ever. Countries aren't nations. Nationless people are worthless. You are worthless.

>>5483253

Oh, you're shitposting, nevermind then.

Have fun.

>>5483185

Shitskin/kike acts as if "colonial" is an insult. As if it doesn't remind me of the time my people ruled the world.

>>5483293

You aren't insulted only because you are unable to understand the insult. It's like insulting a born paraleptic for never being able to dance.

>As if it doesn't remind me of the time my people ruled the world.

Your people never ruled anything. Your ancestor were just tools for the domination and now you aren't even connected to the rulers.

>>5483253

>Non-western cultures existing doesn't have to affect western culture.

b-b-b-but

>Diversity is our strenght, diversity leads to more diverse arts and culture.

Which is it?

>American nation doesn't exist

Of course it does. Americans as a nation are older and more firmly established than Germans or Italians.

>>5483253

Shitskin confirm. How do you like being inferior?

>>5483312

Fake Shitskin History 101, boys.

>>>/oven/

>>5483315

>Of course it does. Americans as a nation are older and more firmly established than Germans or Italians.

No it doesn't. Being vaguely brown English speaking mongrel on certain continent isn't a nation. A nation is more than that.

>>5483319

>>5483333

Even the sandnigger shitting on his dune is worth more than you. Atleast it was his ancestor's dune.

>>5483337

There are more people of pure white British and of pure white German descent in America than there are in Europe. Miscegenation was illegal in most of the country until a couple generations ago and continues to be rare except between minorities.

>>5483344

Oh, the poor poor shitskin's feewings awe huwt.

>>5483351

None of that makes a nation. German/Anglo mix is a mongrel anyway.

>>5483365

You've either bought into the kike lie that perpetuates White genocide because you're a shitskin's, or you're a kike.

Either way, >>>/oven/

>>5483360

You assuming I'm not "white" (which is a detestable definition cooked up by heritageless Americans) just shows you have nothing else to cling to than your skin color.

>>5483365

>None of that makes a nation.

Define what makes a nation, then.

>German/Anglo mix is a mongrel anyway.

And? I said "pure." Most of Utah is pure white British. The multitudes of Germantowns attest to zones of pure German descent. There are larger areas where Europeans, mostly of Northwestern European descent, mix, and they are pure Americans.

>>5483400

>Define what makes a nation, then.

Read something a non-kike wrote about nations. Assuming nations just pop-up, or god forbid anyone in a piece of soil gets to be part of the nation occupying it, is more Jewish drivel.

>And? I said "pure." Most of Utah is pure white British. The multitudes of Germantowns attest to zones of pure German descent. There are larger areas where Europeans, mostly of Northwestern European descent, mix, and they are pure Americans.

Neither British or German is part of any American nation. Either they are part of the nation of their ancestors, which they aren't, or they have no nation.

>>5483384

On what grounds does a 400-year old people lack heritage? You might as well knock the Italians while you're at it; their national language only recently reached majority status.

>>5483445

>On what grounds does a 400-year old people lack heritage? You might as well knock the Italians while you're at it; their national language only recently reached majority status.

On the grounds that any fucker who fell of the boat can have their descendants be part of the country. There is no nation without common heritage.

>>5483421

>Read something a non-kike wrote about nations.

>educate yourself, shitlord

I want to know what your criteria are, not someone else's.

>Neither British or German is part of any American nation.

White British, white Dutch, and white Germans founded America. The American nation is inextricable from them.

>>5483464

>any fucker who fell of the boat can have their descendants be part of the country.

That's only been the case for less than a hundred years. It used to be illegal for non-Europeans to become citizens.

>>5482101

Left-Wing End Game:

> renaming the entire planet Earth to Israel

> total genocide of non-Jews

Right-Wing End Game:

> preserving the diversity of the planet Earth

> ethnic states for everybody

> total peace

> saving wildlife

>>5483467

You continue to cling to your skin color, as if that was a mark of a nation. You clearly have no heritage of your own. A Dutchman speakign English as their native language is a disgusting mongrel. A German speaking English as their native language is a nauseating traitor to their ancestors.

>>5483482

Either those Englishmen are English, or they have no nation. So, are you English or are you an "American" mongrel?

>>5483500

>You continue to cling to your skin color,

I only brought up skin color to avoid discriminating against the wonderful diverse peoples of Britain, Germany, and the Netherlands, who have as much right to call themselves that as any of the aboriginals do.

>Either those Englishmen are English, or they have no nation.

They seceded from England to establish America. That day, they became American.

>>5483500

You're clearly a slide shill. You have no idea what a nation is, nor what bloodlines are. You're just parroting the kike lies about American whites, a 400-year-old nation with its own unique heritage. This is about nations and bloodlines. It has very little to do with skin color alone.

>>5483500

You forgot to answer my question: What, in your opinion, makes a nation?

>>5483527

>That day, they became American.

And abadoned their nation, becoming nothing but economic tools of the oligarchs. Then they allowed other traitors to be part of their shitty club and now their country is more brown the average shit of a healthy person.

>>5483528

I don't consider the opinion of you Americans worth anything. You have no nation. There is no unique American heritage. You might as well be banging rocks together and starting your own nation from scratch.

>>5482443

Well if he was born a jew of course he would think he was superior to all those gutless goyim you moron.

>ITT: No balance or agreement on anything.

You think the right will save you fiscally. And they might. But they want to control the living fuck out of your sex life.

You think the left will lead you into freedom and prosperity? Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff.

I spurn both the right-wing and the left-wing. Because they're both the same: parasites. And the parasite hates three things: free markets, free will, free men. You need to ask yourself a question. Are you a man? Or a slave?

>>5482101

Left and Right paradigm is basically dead.

I am a centrist, by the old ways.

By the new paradigm - which is Nationalist vs Globalist, Authoritarian vs Libertarian - I am an ethnocentric nationalist, deep authoritarian.

> What are we fighting for, exactly?

> implying we are one person, with one intention

That's where you failed right there.

Also made it rather obvious you aren't a native, as the '/pol/ is one person' may-may is rather stale at this point tbh fam.

Personally though?

For the Federation - a military-controlled, meritocratically-oriented, limited-democracy constitutional republic - I would give my life.

We call upon our troopers, in this our darkest hour,

Our way of life is what we're fighting for,

The flag that flies above us, inspires us each day,

To give our very best, in every way!

It's a good day to die,

When you know the reasons why,

Citizens, we fight for what is right,

A noble sacrifice,

When duty calls, you pay the price,

For the Federation I will give my life!

Well all is fair in love and war,

That's what my gunny says:

You're not alive unless you're almost dyin',

These are the words I march by: Duty, Courage, Honor,

Every single day and I've been tryin'!

It's a good day to die,

When you know the reasons why,

Citizens, we fight for what is right,

A noble sacrifice,

When duty calls, you pay the price,

For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

The Eagle, he flies high above us,

The Eagle, he makes our spirit soar,

He gives me the strength to carry on,

To fight, and win this war!

It's a good day to die,

When you know the reasons why,

Citizens, we fight for what is right,

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

A noble sacrifice,

When duty calls, you pay the price,

For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

It's a good day to die,

When you know the reasons why,

Citizens, we fight for what is right,

A noble sacrifice,

When duty calls, you pay the price,

For the Federation I will give my life!

(Courage, Duty, Honor!)

For the Federation I will give my life!

>>5483560

Strong post.

>>5483698

>But they want to control the living fuck out of your sex life.

That would also be an improvement. Fags, racemixers, adulterers, and sluts should be beaten in public, if not executed. Read some Hoppe instead of Jew libertarians.

Free markets don't exist, but they're a nice thought depending on context.

>>5483710

Everything sounded good, up until your authoritarian angle. I reject this, because it leads to totalitarianism.

What is the difference between a man and a slave? Money? Power? No. A man CHOOSES. A slave OBEYS.

>>5483770

Fuck off, commie. A man CHOOSES. A slave OBEYS.

*I* control my own destiny. Not you.

Mob justice always destroys a civilized society. You're just as bad as the Muslims.

I think for the right wing, there is no end game. Because for the right wing, they are trying to preserve society. For the left wing, there is an end game. For they are trying to end society, whether they no it or not.

There is degeneration and their is preservation. Degeneration ends with the downfall of society. Preservation never ends, except through failure to preserve.

>>5482101

That graphic was drawn by a huge leftist.

One example is how left wing is "community" and right is "self-relent"

Even though "city folk" are loners and southerners know everyone in town and actually care about family.

>>5484023

You think the church will save you from whatever bullshit is going down without robbing you blind? YOU are the autist here.

>Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

>NO! Says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.

>>5483990

>southerners know everyone in town and actually care about family.

Who are you bullshitting?

Rube detected.

>>5482582

>POL

>>5484094

>>5484112

Sorry, didn't realize this was an /intl/ thread

>NO! Says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.

Jesus Christ, /intl/, just fucking run a Wikipedia search on Christianity. I don't give a shit about the Vatican and neither do most Christians.

>>5483823

>*I* control my own destiny.

How noble. So should we suppose that ZOG still stands then because you in your ubermensch wisdom have consented to their rule?

>>5484193

>ZOG

Stop speaking in acronyms, faggot. Some of us don't know what that means.

>>5484152

Then why are they putting their time, money, and energy into A FUCKING CHURCH? Especially every given Sunday?

>>5484305

Oh come on.

>>5484152

Roman Catholic is still the world's largest Christian denomination, so your assessment of "most christians" has no bearing on reality.

marxist GLOBALISM vs ethno NATIONALISM

>>5484352

I know Christian churches have nothing to do with the Vatican, you faggot. But it's still a church. And for the record, I'm in Burgerland. Won't say where, though. You might SWAT me like a liberal would.

>>5484305

Well then perhaps you could control your destiny to look it up like a man rather than begging for people to explain things to you like a slave

>>5484381

And it's still the largest denomination. Thank you for proving me right.

>>5484407

>But it's still a church

Shit it's not operating under socialism so it's evil, gotcha.

>And for the record, I'm in Burgerland. Won't say where, though. You might SWAT me like a liberal would.

This is how a /pol/ack types according to /intl/ and /leftypol/. keke

>>5484352

>most Christians have anything to do with the Pope..

Actually, not true. Most of the apostolic denominations - such as Methodist and Anglican - still have close ties to Rome.

>>5484411 (double dubs checked)

Well played.

Either way, I don't do what Zionists tell me. I now know what ZOG means, anon. I appreciate your challenge.

>>5484437

>Shit it's not operating under socialism so it's evil, gotcha.

But it IS operating under socialism, retard. Why are these Christian churches, like the rest of the other religions ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY?!

And don't you dare accuse me of supporting a shit system, because I don't. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. PERIOD.

>>5484516

>ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY?!

>WHY IS THE STORE ALWAYS ASKING FOR MONEY

>And don't you dare accuse me of supporting a shit system

>capitalism is evil

>non-profits are evil

>Support my for-profit jew retail store instead goyim

Gotcha

>>5484559

When did I say Capitalism was evil, shitbrains? Now I know you're cherrypicking. What did I say in my last post?

>The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. PERIOD.

READ, NIGGER! READ!

>>5483253

>racist didn't work

>ethnocentrist didn't work

I'll call him colonial!

>>5482211

There is only one REAL deciding aspect of both the left and right: whether you believe in equality or not. The left's entire thought process is built upon the underlying core belief that people are, for the most part, inherently equal. The right, on the other hand has its entire thought process built on the underlying core belief that people *aren't* inherently equal.

Literally every political system or ideology that has ever existed has either held one or the other as core tenets of its foundation. Once you start viewing ideologies through this lens, it begins to make sense why ideologies as different as fascism and libertarianism are both considered "right wing".

>>5484646

What are you saying /intl/? You're going around in circles.

>>5484746

Indeed. Though for clarification purposes, a lot of right-wingers believe that America is a Christian nation. Absolutely NOT TRUE. They're dong the exact same thing the left-wing does; they engage in rewriting history, and that drives me absolutely insane. The founding fathers were never Christians; they were Deists. That's why Freedom of Religion was absolutely important to them.

>>5484779

I'm not /intl/. Stop shitposting.

>>5483560

Let me ask you this: Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

Or let me ask you this way: If you were born a "degenerate" (a homosexual for example) would you just give up and let /pol/ users to gas you just for what you are?

We all know what the answer is: You wouldn't. You would fight /pol/ until the last drop of blood in your body.

I hope you see how hopeless this situation is. It has to end up in blood. Either in ours or yours.

Don't expect me to just give up and die. I won't. If you want to take my life, i want to take yours.

>>5484800

No you

>>5484801

Rule of Acquisition #28: Morality is always defined by those in power.

>>5484858

I don't see how is that related to my post tbh.

>>5484796

Agreed. It also pisses me off when leftists tout "freedom of religion" to justify allowing millions of middle easterners and muslims into out nation. The purpose of the seperation of Church and state was to prevent religious institutions like the Roman catholic Church emerging, consolidating power, and corrupting the republican process under the guise of being the "one true faith". Freedom of religion was also put in place for similar reasons as SOCS, but also to keep tensions from getting out of hand between the two main adversarial denominations of Christianity at the time - Catholics and Protestants. I bet Islam was never even an afterthought in the minds of the Founding Fathers. They would never have imagined the hell we're going through today.

>>5484858

I don't see how is that related to my post tbh.

>>5484897

Finally. Somebody gets it.

>>5484801

>Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

Nothing was ever won without a fight. A resistance may very well be likely, but luckily for us, the very nature of the degenerate filth that populates the left ensures they are no headache to deal with. Look at our opposition. Physically weak, emotionally weak, sexually deviant, manipulative, failures with the perpetual mindset of naive children.

For the record, I don't want to kill all gays. I think that's unrealistic, an unnecessary waist of resources, and an unjust punishment. I just think that the sexuality should be actively repressed through public education, propaganda campaigns, and strict but not unreasonable punishments for public displays/promotion of your disposition. Homosexuality should be viewed as what it is: a mental illness that causes its victims to live and pursue unhealthy, self-destructive lifestyles that, if went unchecked, would damage the moral fabric of the nation.

>>5484695

>A strong, unified and isolationist culture that conserves its identity

But what about situations where different cultures are in conflict?

Take Germans and Slavs for example. There are certain parts of europe which both Germans and Slavs claim that it belongs to them and they both want to take it from the other side to "preserve their culture and identity".

They are both /pol/ minded, both want to preserve "their land" from "invaders", yet they are in conflict.

Which one of them should get that land? The stronger one?

Left and right wing politics are caused by r type and k type evolutionary strategies, respectively, the only endgame for left wingers is to create an environment in which they thrive, if you were a penguin, you would want cold weather, if you were a chihuahua, you would want warm weather and you would be threatened by everything else, this is why there is so much salt, cognitive dissonance, and violence among the left, when you criticize welfare state, immigration, etc. it is perceived as an existential threat because r-type psychology has no in-group loyalty and needs handouts for its reproductive strategy to be viable. Fundamentally, a lot of the rhetoric that surrounds both right and left politics is superficial and irrelevant, this is inherently an issue of biology and human evolution. right wing and left wing politics is gene warfare between K-type humans and R-type humans.

>>5485013

>Nothing was ever won without a fight. A resistance may very well be likely, but luckily for us, the very nature of the degenerate filth that populates the left ensures they are no headache to deal with. Look at our opposition. Physically weak, emotionally weak, sexually deviant, manipulative, failures with the perpetual mindset of naive children.

I see. In other words: I'm weaker than you, so it doesn't matter if i fight you.

I just want to show you that i have no other choice than fight you, because you give me none.

See you when it happens.

You will need lots and lots of bullets to kill us all and also someone who will clean your streets from our blood.

I hope you can afford that.

nigger

>>5484900 (Checked)

Think about it, anon. The right demands that you live by their standards. A set of standards and mob justice that go completely against both the Bill of Rights and the Constitution; the greatest documents of freedom ever written.

The Christian tends to behave no better than the Muslim. In which if you do not believe what they do, you are considered undesirable #1, or deserve to be killed, worst case scenario. They want to control your sex life, tell you how to live, or if you're a Christian Baby Boomer, chastise you for "chasing the almighty dollar" while also demanding you either give it to them or their church. God forbid, no pun intended, your wife is raped by a sick monster, and this Christian government forces your wife to give birth to a rape baby; a child that is not of your own bloodline, that will mentally scar your wife, and won't grow up right.

But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

Where is the fucking balance here?

>>5485052

>But what about situations where different cultures are in conflict?

>Which one of them should get that land? The stronger one?

Yes and No. Neither should get the land by virtue of being the strongest. Only the one that applies its strength against the opponent and succeeds in defeating said opponent has any "right" to the land. Everything is power play. A nation doesn't have any right to land unless it has the strength and power to keep/take it.

>>5484900 (Checked)

Think about it, anon. The right demands that you live by their standards. A set of standards and mob justice that go completely against both the Bill of Rights and the Constitution; the greatest documents of freedom ever written.

The Christian tends to behave no better than the Muslim. In which if you do not believe what they do, you are considered undesirable #1, or deserve to be killed, worst case scenario. They want to control your sex life, tell you how to live, or if you're a Christian Baby Boomer, chastise you for "chasing the almighty dollar" while also demanding you either give it to them or their church. God forbid, no pun intended, your wife is raped by a sick monster, and this Christian government forces your wife to give birth to a rape baby; a child that is not of your own bloodline, that will mentally scar your wife, and won't grow up right.

But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

Where is the fucking balance here?

(GODDAMN IT, KIKEWHEELS!)

>>5485132

Well, if the land belongs to the one with enough power to take it, the whole world would be German in time no doubt. I don't see any culture perseverance in that.

>>5485131

>But what's the alternative? Open sex in the middle of the road mentality? Irresponsible, unprotected sex spreading disease? A mentality where men should be subservient to women? Where men and women aren't truly equal by acknowledgeing their differences? Where people think pedophilia is ok? Where abortion is so out of control that even infanticide is ok?

That sounds like a slippery slope argument to me.

>>5485218

*culture preservation

>>5485131

>The right

Stopped reading here. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, as demonstrated by the fact that you still adhere to the left/right false dilemma.

>edgelord fedora rants against the church mommy and daddy made you go to

>>>/reddit/

>>5485111(checked 'em thrice)

>I see. In other words: I'm weaker than you, so it doesn't matter if i fight you.

Keep in mind that when I say "you" and "me" I'm not referring to you and I as individual people, but rather the hypothetical schools of belief that we might adhere to and which might exist in violent opposition in the future. In this particular case, "you" are the pro sexual-deviancy left, and "we" are the anti sexual-deviancy right.

>I just want to show you that i have no other choice than fight you, because you give me none.

In the event your life is threatened, you have every logical reason to respond with force. My point was that the "left" as it stands today would not put up any significant fight due to the reasons I already listed.

But as I mentioned, I have no interest in killing you for being a fag. I just don't want your faggotry openly paraded/promoted, talked about, or put in a positive light.I hope that you exist as a person separate from your sexual desires, anon.

the right tends to believe in a higher power from which a persons intrinsic value is derived. this is the basis for rights which are meant to be protected from other people and governments themselves. that is a tendency anyway.

the notion of equality is an assertion of this intrinsic value and goes no further than acknowledging such.

the left's version of equality is purely economic. look at the campaigns of white privilege, BLM, immigration…it is all rooted in wealth distribution. ironically, in order to accomplish this end you'd have to trample on the actual rights of many by institutionalizing their use of time and resources. equality to them means nothing more than normalized means across the board.

it is most easy to accomplish this redifinition in a society that rejects any power higher than the state and leads masses to surrender their real rights in exchange for the fake ones.

>>5484801

Kek. A bunch of faggots and degenerates "fighting back." I'm trembling.

>>5485218

How do you figure? I'm displaying the cons of both the left and the right-wing. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>5485218

>Well, if the land belongs to the one with enough power to take it

enough power to take it AND the will to do so. Keep that in mind. Mexico and Canada don't belong to the US even though the US has has the hard power to annex both of them. Simply having the capabilities to do something doesn't mean you will or that its in your best interests to.

>I don't see any culture perseverance in that.

Of course that's culture perseverance. It's the cultural perseverance of The Germans at the expense of everyone else.

>>5485218

> muh slippery slope fallacy

Slippery slope is not a logical fallacy. It's a politically driven argument used to get an inch so the degenerates can take a mile. Look at the gay rights movement - the right said that if you do this, you'd soon get people advocating for pedophilia and bestiality. And that's exactly what we got. Look at the Salon and HuffPo articles from last year.

>>5485242

>I hope that you exist as a person separate from your sexual desires, anon.

I have no idea what do you mean by that. Like i am a fag only sometimes?

>>5485253

It was not supposed to make you tremble. It was more like: Are all those bullets you spend on killing us worth it? Is all that time you spend killing us worth it? I don't know about you, but i would rather spend my time watching chinese cartoons than killing someone. I guess we are different kind of people.

>>5485218

>That sounds like a slippery slope argument to me.

The "slippery slope" has proven not to really be a fallacy, mate. The response of many leftists when trying to justify their perversions is that they *just* want xyz, and suggesting they might push for more later is merely touting the "slippery slope".

Look at the how homosexuality was normalised. First they *just* wanted to get it removed as a mental illness. Then they *just* wanted it to be supported as a valid lifestyle and sexuality, then they *just* wanted it to be promoted as equal to heterosexuality, then they *just* wanted marriage rights, then they *just wanted adoption rights, etc.

>>5485344

>I have no idea what do you mean by that. Like i am a fag only sometimes?

I mean I hope your identity as a person is not based solely on the fact you like to stick your dick in another man's pooper.

>>5485364

I don't think it is. I don't even think that someone's identity can be based solely on that tbh.

>>5485344

If you think poopdick is your whole identity, you're beyond salvation.

>>5485250

>the right tends to believe in a higher power from which a persons intrinsic value is derived (….) the notion of equality is an assertion of this intrinsic value and goes no further than acknowledging such.

>the left's version of equality is purely economic.

I would respectfully disagree. I think it's the very nature of the right to reject any assumptions of "equality" at all. The right is based on the idea that nature, and under that people, are inherently unequal, and thus society should be structured with this knowledge in mind (i.e only the most competent and capable people should be the ones leading the nation instead of absolutely everybody having an equal vote).

The left seems to tout social equality just as much, if not more, than economic equality. The wealth redistribution is only the conclusion the left can arrive at after first assuming people are inherently equal. They see poor blacks and automatically assume they are poor due to systems of oppression instead of their own biological inferiority. From this, they conclude that the only way to "fix" these systems of inequality is "redistributing" wealth from the "oppressors" to the "oppressed" in order to uplift the otherwise completely equal black population.

>>5485313

>>5485350

The slippery slope was never a fallacy. Both the left and right-wings have used this as an excuse to control people, or take away freedoms for their own sense of power and desire.

You saw how the left uses homosexuality as a means to normalize things like pedophilia and bestiality.

Full disclosure: I don't give a shit what you do in your bedroom behind closed doors. I, myself, am bisexual. If you are a man who wants to have sex with a dog, horse or another man; or you're a woman who wants to have sex with another woman, or the afformentioned, that's your problem. You can do whatever you want in your bedroom as long as you leave children alone. An adult has NO RIGHT to have sex with a child, for a child cannot comprehend, or process sexual relations with an adult.

That being said, there are a lot of people who fuck things up for everybody by putting sick, degenerate ideologies where they don't belong.

But you take a look on the right, what do you have? Paranoid delusions and motivations where personal tragedy is concerned. Look who the right-wingers were before: degenerate, yuppie, hypocritical baby boomers who want to tell you how to live. Who believe that sexuality is sick, when it's the most human aspect of humanity since the beginning of time. Who believe that children should be put on sex offender registries. DUI checkpoints are a great thing. The same kind of RINO idiots who believe safety trumphs freedom.

Let me ask you one more thing: What is actually bad about homosexuality?

I know many people here want to kill me for it, but none of them have explained to me why yet.

So far it seems like "stop liking what i don't like" kind of hatred.

If you say that homosexuality is "bad" and "evil"… Please define "bad" and "evil".

Because those words have obviously different meaning for me than for you.

I define evil as something that causes a suffering. How does homosexuality cause a suffering?

>>5485148

Neither scenarios played out in nazi germany, it think that's a pretty good balance.

>>5485396

You clearly haven't seen some of the more depraved fags

>>5485514

Homosexuality in itself is not a bad thing, it should just not be promoted.

More homosexuals = less children.

>>5485545

Wait. Are you implying that somebody can become a homosexual?

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

>>5485492

>An adult has NO RIGHT to have sex with a child, for a child cannot comprehend, or process sexual relations with an adult.

any scientific study to support that claim? also what is a child? is 13 yo still a child? where is the border? and how come that somebody can comprehend sexual relation from from day to day by turning 18?

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

>>5485558

See: Ancient Greece

There's a difference between homosexuality and homosexual acts, and a difference between saying it shouldn't be promoted and should be advocated.

Not sure, I'm third positionist myself

>>5485558

See: Ancient Greece

There's a difference between homosexuality and homosexual acts, and a difference between saying it shouldn't be promoted and should be oppressed. It's possible to tolerate it without tolerating the Cultural Marxist pushing of it.

Fucking HW, let me post

>>5485514

>What is actually bad about homosexuality?

Homosexuality, as in the mere attraction, is completely harmless. That has never been what the Right is in opposition to. People have urges to do things all the time, but ultimately resist.

It is the homosexual acts and the lifestyle that often surrounds homosexuals which the Right despises, not the attraction in and of itself. Simply put, homosexual acts spread disease and literally tear assholes, but this isn't all of it. Generally what you find with homosexuals is that they aren't just "completely normal people with a different sexual preference", but instead are highly-promiscuous, hyper-sexual people who engage in other depraved acts (eating shit, purposely sharing diseases, etc.), and who form their identities as people largely around the fact that they are sexually attracted to their own gender.

Promoting such people as "healthy and normal" is even more damaging, because it pollutes the minds of children and could very well make them question their own sexuality. Homosexuality is also incredibly hedonistic and simply put, an unnatural lifestyle to promote. By promoting homosexuality as equal to heterosexuality, you are cheapening heterosexual relationships and subsequently presenting them as purely hedonistic sources of personal pleasure, the same way homosexual ones are

>>5485737

>but instead are highly-promiscuous, hyper-sexual people who engage in other depraved acts (eating shit, purposely sharing diseases, etc.), and who form their identities as people largely around the fact that they are sexually attracted to their own gender.

I don't think i'm like that at all tbh.

>>5482101

very American-centric image

Anyway, i'm out. It's not like i can change anything by talking to people on imageboards. Peace.

>>5485806

I don't blame you. I'm out too. Gonna play some vidya.

>>5485770

then that's perfectly fine. That doesn't change the fact that many more are. You can exist as an upstanding citizen who so-happens to be homosexual, but doesn't put his physical urges before his duty to the nation and the people, and most definitely doesn't promote it as equal-to or better-than heterosexuality in any way.

I can respect you as a person regardless of your homosexuality, but the moment you start waving a flag of fag-pride and promoting that deviancy, you'll be shut down.

If you enjoy the inside of another man's anus in the secret of your own home and make sure it's not a general knowledge that you're doing it, then I think the state shouldn't give a shit at all

>>5485514

Homosexuality is a mental illness, a self destructive behavior scientifically proven to be a vector for disease that should be in no way encouraged or tolerated.

Weather or not you think that individuals have the right to do as they please even if it's bad for them, homos are a danger to more people than just themselves and thus shouldn't be allowed to exist publicly even by lolbergturdian standadrs.

>>5485558

Most if not all homosexuals are taught, that's why they're bad for society at large.

People do not exist in a vacuum, millions of faggots not only spreading disease , but also paraded to as completely natural and healthy harmless people can't exist without affecting their sorroundings.

Their existence under such conditions impacts later generations by brainwashing them into believe there's nothing wrong with such conducts, or like you do, to be unable to grasp what's wrong about them.

>>5485875

You're saying a naturalist understanding of homo sapiens entails third positionism?

>>5485956

Yes.

>>5486038

Why do atheists tend to be leftists, then? Or at least a large percentage of them?

>>5482144

what retard is bringing their kids to folsom street fair in the first place?

>>5485514

Aids

>>5486071

Because most atheists simply replace the religious god with the ideological god. Many atheists supplant faith in a deity with faith in grand ideas like "equality" or other leftists tropes that have been hammered into them from a young age.

You have to understand that many modern atheists didn't become atheists through much self-reflection and subsequent reanalysis of their world-view, but were instead simply brought up without a god and only had the liberal, cultural-Marxist education system to guide them.

You'll find that many leftist atheists are also just uninformed. Those that parade ideologies like communism or socialism do so because it's purely materialistic and relatively low-hanging fruit on the tree of ideologies. Many atheists support wealth redistribution through socialist policies because they legitimately think it works and benefits people. If they truly cared about the search for truth, they would change their worldview once better solutions or explanations have been provided. This is how you can tell a true "atheist" from a pseudo-religious commie.

Take me as an example. Two years ago I would have considered myself a communist/socialist. I wasn't fanatical or religious about it, but I supported it because I seriously believed it offered a viable system to replace the current one. After I found /pol/, however, my worldview changed when I became better informed. My lack of belief in a god has remained constant. (well, I guess i'd consider myself more of a Deist, but you get the idea)

If you're still concerned about a left-right split, you're barking up the wrong tree.

This isn't about left v. right, this is about nationalist v. globalist.

>>5482194

>>for one religion is inherently Left wing.

>what is paganism not the shitty wicca kind, but what the Romans and Norse practiced

>what is Islam

>what is Mormonism

wew lad

>>5486330

This thread is more about left/right schools of thought rather than specific ideologies. There's no denying that there is a spectrum.

>>5484801

>Do you expect that all those people you call "degenerates" will just give up, let you win and gas them all without any resistance?

I never called them degenerates.

You're asking the wrong question. It's not about gassing them or the day of the rope.

What we want to do is shift the Overton window from "how do I blame the successful people for everything and weaken them so that I can compete" to "how do we make the species more successful, how do we propagate the strongest and best cultures and individuals"

Political discourse shouldn't be about how to teach kids to be trannies, it should be about how do we make sure the next generation is strong and intelligent. The question shouldn't be how many millions of rapefugees to let in, it should be about making sure 3rd world barbarians can do no damage to us.

There will always be radical leftists, fags, child molesters, necrophiles, drug addicts, etc. As long as they arent hurting anyone I really dont care what they do, but normalizing that behavior is insane and destructive.

>>5486450

I figured, but it never hurts to remind lurkers that a right-leaning globalist is still an enemy.

>>5486571

agreed

>34% of leftists don't support war

Yeah instead they support "worldwide revolution" which is no different than war

>>5486609

>they support "worldwide revolution"

Yeah, but they almost always never deliver.

They incite the ignorant masses they always deride, then become confused as to why the groveling proletarians turn on them.

>>5486843

>I approve of this post

I was excited for a second because I thought you capped my post. Do you realise how much my hopes were crushed, anon?

>>5486966

Thanks anon. You made my tummy all warm and fuzzy again.

>>5487285

>nordic pagan

Oh anon. I was so close to respecting you.

>>5487433

I'd rather you not pick and choose religions like flavours of ice-cream and realise that Deism is the only rational form of spiritualism there is.

>>5487475

>not pick and choose religions

I don't, though. It's entirely based on blood, my friend. If I were Hindu, I'd be worshiping the Devas.

>>5482101

Left and Right have become no more than buzzwords in the 21st century. Whatever they meant before, they are meaningless now.

Not even /pol/ can move beyond the old paradigms.

>>5482101

Both the "left" and "right" are based on enlightenment thinking. Right wing enlightenment politics also has globalism as an end goal. But their globalism is different from the marxist globalism. Right wing enlightenment globalism is focused on a global economy while marxist globalism is on forming the one world government. This is why you have marxists that are being called anti globalists at g8 meetings. The thing is they aren't actually against globalism, but they are against the right wing globalism. They are alter globalists not nationalists. The real anti globalist and opposite of them is anti enlightenment politics. The reactionaries, third position, alternative right or what you want to call them.

>>5487640

religion is not based on blood. I have loyalty to the white race yet I am a deist/atheist. You have no legitimate connection to that dead religion. it's been extinct for almost a thousand years. Much of it is unknown. You're only following it because you think it's what you *should* follow, even if you don't truly believe in it.

>>5482101

>science belongs to the left

holy fuck, this is the worst meme on the planet, its legitimately less accurate than the "islam is a peaceful religion" meme, and OP is a faggot for having saved this trash on his computer.

>>5483560

>tfw probably a beta

I have a strong body but I'm very weak socially. I'll always have trouble to assert dominance if I can't communicate properly.

>>5487989

This. Also

>Right

>hawks

Some of us are non-interventionists.

>Family

>Right

>relationship based on respect and fear

I'm triggered.