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c972a0 No.5486459

Now I know women are by no means equal to men, but I'm starting to suspect it's even worse than I originally thought.

My opinion regarding women and rape up until now has largely been "If she isn't heavily bruised or dead, she did not sufficiently resist." And I know a lot of rape claims are outright fiction (i.e., Mattress girl.)

But then I read stories like this and I start to wonder if I've got it wrong, and I'm not being patriarchal enough.

https://archive.is/Bi0IT

>The seventh time, I was raped by my friend. We had been dancing at a party and he invited me back to his room. I made it explicitly clear that I didn’t want to have sex with him. I said it repeatedly, and he promised we could go back and just hang and make-out or whatever, and that there was no pressure to have sex. I said fine. When we were in his room things escalated and I found myself underneath him, pushing him off of me, saying “no,” as he penetrated me. I never reported the rape personally because I was so confused, and he was my friend, and I had the voice of society telling me all the ways in which I could have been “asking for it” or “deserved it” or “gave mixed signals,” and I was scared that it wasn't violent or aggressive enough to report.

Now it could just be that this particular woman was already a broken degenerate at this point. Maybe a properly raised woman would have, if not outright refused to allow herself to be put in that scenario, then at the very least would have bit and scream and fought to the bitter end.

But I keep hearing stories like this of women whose resistance utterly collapses the moment a guy touches them. If this many women won't so much as scream, then maybe they aren't mentally competent enough to be given the responsibility of guarding their own doors since clearly almost any man who's determined can open it uninvited.

And it's not just blatantly dangerous situations like this slut put herself in, nor is it limited to the last thirty years of moral and societal collapse. Wherever and whenever women enter the workforce, this kind of shit seems to happen. Everyone knows the cliche about the business man and his secretary. I'd say it had something to do with putting a woman in a subordinate position to a man, but I'm pretty sure it happens in the opposite case as well.

Of course not all women are like that, (And not all men lack self-control) but of the ones that WOULD fight back, how many AREN'T already proper, respectable women? How many weren't properly influenced by their father or husband?

While I do believe Western women are in many respects superior to women from the Low Commonweal "nations," even if some of them are fit to have a greater role in society, clearly not all are. But what's the ratio? And perhaps more importantly, can it be improved? I'm really torn here because my perceptions of nature vs nurture have greatly changed in the past few years (Blacks are not fixable, for instance.) If there's a large core of women that are utterly incapable of making sexual decisions for themselves, should all women require a license to leave the home unattended? How difficult should it be to obtain? Though I find the idea of treating women in a similar manner as Muslims distasteful, I do think they're closer to the mark at the moment than we are if only because of the sheer magnitude to which we've run away with the idea of female empowerment. Women are fully emancipated in the West and we have paid a dear price for it.

ab5a94 No.5486526

>>5486459

>hang back and make-out

yeah, if you do this, you deserve rape. I like and respect women, but if you do sexual stuff with men, I mean flirting, touching, anything, they WILL fuck you, and that's really all there is to it. if you don't want to get fucked, act like a =human= not like a =woman= and nobody will be reminded that you have a hole to fuck. simple as that.

i mean rapists deserve the death penalty yes but

dont be a fucking whore is that so much to ask


18e06e No.5486630

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She was saying "no" while smiling and giggling, most likely. Sometimes no means yes.


73b523 No.5486644

>>5486459

They are controlled entirely by whatever makes their nether regions tingle and they have no control over what will trigger that response.


e2e973 No.5486650

I have no doubt in my mind that their nature kicks in and they just let it happen.


c328c6 No.5486699

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>>5486459

anon, women aren't capable of making decisions for the most part.

In relation to intercourse it's so shockingly obvious, but

it's true about everything.

Let's take something as dumb as shoes. In college, I sold women's shoes. They'd take a shoe that didn't fit to a painful extent if they thought it was 'cute'.


0cda28 No.5486739

>>5486459

>My opinion regarding women and rape up until now

You just outed yourself troll. Go back to video games.

http://8ch.net/faq.html

What is "sage"? Posters may reply to threads without bumping them to the top of the index by putting "sage" in the email field.


c328c6 No.5486748

>>5486526

>f you don't want to get fucked, act like a =human= not like a =woman= and nobody will be reminded that you have a hole to fuck. simple as that.

this is a good point, yes.

but for most of these women, their vision of Hell would be "men have forgotten I have a hole to fuck". They'd have to figure out some other way of getting attention and validation, like for example achieveme– hahah sorry


8ce2b0 No.5486831

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The biggest lie women tell is that they like sex as much as men. Ask a woman if she remembers a time where she masturbated so often in a single day that it began to hurt. Women don't understand that level of drive. What the did was spend decades shaming men for behaving this way, and now that they feel like they can cash in on it culturally they're shaming men again.

As Dave Chappelle said, women like *things* and men like *women.* Men buy things and gain status largely to attract the best women. Women will engage in sex to get access to status and things. They have been doing this since forever. NOT, as they will tell you, because it was forced upon them but rather because it's easy. Right down to the ol "take me on three dates before we have sex" trope, the idea of open prostitution is a central part of the female psyche.

Women will ALWAYS have sex with the man they feel they can get something from.They know exactly what their abilities are and they exist to climb obtuse social ladders. Any woman who has female friends knows this, they even fucking do it to each other.


8ce2b0 No.5487095

>>5486630

In my sexual experience "no" can very often mean yes. I've had more than one women - across different races inb4 degenerate- vocalize rape fantasies. Women love social games. They LOVE THEM.

The trick I use is even when they say no and we're in bed or something, I immediately shut down. I just go "fine, fuck it, what do you want to do now? Cause I'm gonna get drunk or something," and 10/10 times we end up fucking. It's never failed.


4d278e No.5487109

HOW TO TELL IF YOU'VE BEEN RAPED

>is someone having sex with you?

>yes?

>did you resist to the absolute best of your ability?

>no?

>THEN YOU AREN'T BEING RAPED, YOU'RE JUST A FUCKING BETA

being pressured into sex is not rape


7f0fb5 No.5487150

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>>5486831

> The biggest lie women tell is that they like sex as much as men.

I have an experiment for you non-virgins out there. Next time you're about to bang a chick for the first time, when you are deep into the foreplay and about to fuck, stop.

You'll be able to walk away, she wont. She'll yell, scream, and try to rape you, when she fails she'll throw a massive tantrum and hit you as hard as she can with her skinny little arms.

Women are much better at saying no while their clothes are still on. Once they are started they cant stop.

This probably has something to do with a natural response to rape, but I'm no expert.


5895c0 No.5487178

Why do they have orange dicks?


ba4311 No.5487267

Be sure you're ready to stand by your stance on rape.

Because if you make the claim rape without resistence isn't really rape, then by extension you would agree child rape isn't real rape and is thereby permissable (unless you're idealogically hypocritical).

Rape is not acceptable, full stop.

No means no. You expect a weaker gender to fight back when they don't want to have sex? Of course not, they'd more than likely be too scared to fight for themselves against a strong man.

I know /pol/ has a hard-on for holding anti-SJW positions, but there are just some things they're right about.

Rape really is that bad.


d57e3a No.5487550

>>5487178

Orange flavoured condoms


d86dde No.5487682

Women love to be dominated. All the other bullshit is just lies they tell themselves and each other to not feel like total whores. They only feel bad because media tells them to. Act like an alpha and bitches will be chasing you down to get some of that dick.


019c96 No.5487764

Dudes can be pretty pushy with sex, past what I'd call reasonable limits. But I still wouldn't call that rape. That demeans actual rape where the woman is physically forced and hurt until she submits.


0cda28 No.5487781

>>5487267

>I know /pol/ has a hard-on for holding anti-SJW positions, but there are just some things they're right about.

trying to make us believe the SJWs invented the case against rape

I told you this was a bait thread.


2f9fd8 No.5487826

>>5486459

Yes. Women are overgrown children. Women used to be considered unfit to testify in court or vote for just that reason.


fd645f No.5488006

>>5486526

It's not because she didn't fight hard enough. Don't be stupid.

It's because she actually did want to fuck him, and only regretted it later. The rape charge is now a "get out of shame easy" card for many shitty women out there.

>>5487150

top kek. I've done this. They also lose their shit if you don't blow your load.


ed8eab No.5488060

>>5486459

You are very close OP.

Yes, the greentext describes a legitimate rape, because he used force and she said "no" while it was happening.

On the other hand, the real reason she didn't report it is that women like men like that better than they like men like you and me who would never do such a thing. So she would rather blame "society" or "the patriarchy" than the men that actually do this.

This is the essence of feminism: getting all men to take the lame for legitimately bad behavior that is really only perpetrated by 10% of men, but the 10% that women like most, and therefore want to protect from criticism.


5a2a9c No.5488077

>>5486459

Women are like children.

They were protected once.


c972a0 No.5488134

>>5487267

I'm in no way excusing rapists. If a man is entrusted with a female employee then he is being trusted not to take advantage of her. This is a privilege only possible among High Commonweal peoples that lesser humans are incapable of (Note that the responsibility is the man's, not the woman's.) Violating that trust degrades society and proves you are scarcely better than a muh dik nigger. And when you can't trust your neighbors to not stab you in the back, you get places like Afghanistan.

That said, there's a difference between succeeding and making an effort. I would sincerely hope a good married woman would respond with all available violence if actually confronted with the rapist lurking in the bushes scenario that feminists seem to believe is the norm on college campuses (Rather than Detroit.)

>>5487781

Is it that bad here that you've begun seeing malice and ill-intent where there is none?


92bd02 No.5488248

>>5487267

Yes means no means yes means no. The phrase is entirely subjected by context you fucktard. No can mean anything. Yes can mean anything. If some bitch is saying "no no, don't rape me, please god no!" while spreading her legs and bucking her hips with a smile on her face….guess what, that ain't rape.

When logical unemotional people talk about rape with regards to justice and adherence to the law, it is a discussion over violence. Did a violent act occur beyond a reasonable doubt? If it did, then it is rape. If not, then somebody is full of shit

OP's story is about a woman full of shit. She made another poor decision by putting herself in a situation to be fucked for the 7th time by the same dude and now lacks the mental capacity to accept personal responsibility for her lack of willpower and ability to critically think. Rape, therefore, is her trump card. Except, she has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that actual un-consented violence occured. Good luck trying to prove that.


008601 No.5488260

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>>5486459

Chink here. This happens over here too. Always the same shit in ALL the hook up/one night stands.

They "resisted" at first then spread their legs wide after the foreplay. Even the married ones.

Sex, marriage and morality have been ruined world wide. Thanks to the biggest media in the world.


f786b4 No.5488266

>>5487150

This has less to do with wanting/needing sex, and more to do with resistance being shown to her best control mechanism over you.

No, she won't consider the reasoning behind it or do it consciously, which is why it manifests as sexual desire, but it's not because she actually likes the sex. She likes the power.


4d278e No.5488270

>>5487267

>fight

no. run. running is easy. here's what you need:

#1. two legs

#2. the willingness to run

don't run? i got no sympathy for you.

children, on the other hand, are slow.


287b35 No.5488281

The only answer is patriarchy. Regardless of if a women does or does not want sex (they often do even in cases of vocal refusal), it's not good for the society for them to be engaging in sex prior to marriage. It increases the chance of venereal diseases as well as incentivizes pursuing sex for pleasure (the biologically intended reward for reproduction) instead of for reproduction itself. It's like if you could just press a button to get a runner's high instead of exercising to earn it.

If every father of every daughter in the country took their proper, traditional role as the protectors of their daughters against other men (until she finds a husband) against her own selfish drives and the selfish drives of other men, things would be better all around.


2402d0 No.5488327

>>5486459

> Though I find the idea of treating women in a similar manner as Muslims distasteful, I do think they're closer to the mark at the moment than we are if only because of the sheer magnitude to which we've run away with the idea of female empowerment. Women are fully emancipated in the West and we have paid a dear price for it.

Just admit it. Islam is not a bad religion as long as it's contained in their muslim countries.


2402d0 No.5488351

>>5488281

Again. Just as islam promotes.


45e23a No.5488363

unless you have a stonetier hard penis its quite hard to penetrate a non excited vagina , I have tried doing this to my girlfriend…didnt work out too well


008601 No.5488365

>>5488327

No shit? Hitler was friend with mudshits for that reason. In fact, the whole extremist ruckus was from Arabs being too retarded to properly interpret the texts.

They should be contained though.


1275ad No.5488386

>>5487150

This has literally nothing to do with physical pleasure and everything to do with you denying her mechanism for extorting resources.

Now let's stop LARPing as if you're some kind of pussy crusher, we all know you're not even 6 ft tall buddy.


9beffb No.5488418

so, are MGTOW still a pejorative or smart dudes avoiding the shit hitting the fan?

Well I don't think I'll be MGTOW for life, but, more as a Testudo formation thing, while the arrows are falling, a few more years.


9a1c1e No.5488434

>>5488006

>They also lose their shit if you don't blow your load.

Absolutely. If you fuck and and dont bust a nut, she flips out and feels like shit, as she should. Boring lays or trash tier pussy are marginally better than fapping. If she cant get you to nut, she is really shitty.

Also, CUCKWHEELZ IS A FAGGOT


50638f No.5488445

this thread is massively delusional on so many aspects it hurts my brain

>Now I know women are by no means equal to men,

0/10

you see, you've already created a world where 'woman are by no means equal to man' and then actively find evidence to support your point, which is obvious from the stories you find after. now i am not argueing that some of those stories are from deranged girls, mattress girl being one of them, but if you are so conceited that you generalize all the girls like that, than i truly pity you

i hope you will find a woman that will have the patience to show you how wrong you are, because otherwise i am certain this life will end bitter for you


111a2b No.5488453

Always the same rfucking story.

Some woman slutting around, guy moves a bit too fast for them, fuggs. Women are then ashamed they were deeply aroused while getting dominated/raped during the act but don't report it because it was basically just sordid sex. Then later they can get pity points, tons of girls have "rape stories" like this, in fact its almost a requirement these days to become an empowyered wymyn. Modern society is disgusting.


9a1c1e No.5488499

>>5488445

TITS OR GTFO!


1ca061 No.5488506

>>5486459

Nice Book


9beffb No.5488523

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>>5488418

No one is laughing at MGTOW anymore. They aren't laughing anymore.


287b35 No.5488548

>>5488351

If Christianity wants to become relevant again it needs a traditionalist revival. Most denominations of Christianity are so thoroughly pozzed by modern secular "morality" that it's hard to see why anyone respected Christianity to begin with. Catholicism has become a vector for Marxism to infest the Third World (through liberation theology). Most branches of Protestantism have no ideological opposition to gay marriage or female clergy. Orthodox traditions seem alright, but they're probably the most traditionalist branch of Christianity, so that's kind of to be expected.

If there is one good thing about Islam it's that it is traditionalist. Even radically so. It's no surprise that Christianity, which seems to have almost completely capitulated to secular "morality", would come off as a weak horse in comparison.


511f6e No.5488574

Mens lives would be better in the long run if they had some standards.

If she lets herself be in rape likely scenarios, she is low quality.

Girls who drink (or do any drugs), hang out with men they aren't fucking and go on "girls night out" are low rent whores.

If you smelled like bacon and hung out in the bear enclosure, maybe it's not your fault when you get eaten, but you're absolutely not worth being around, because you're so low quality.

If she's too drunk to consent, she's too broken to wife.


111a2b No.5488579

>>5488523

Well a lot of us really don't have an option. These guys larping on /pol/ to just lift and alpha your way into tons of pussy and/or the perfect redpilled virgin waifu. Yeah well, that doesn't seem feasible for the average guy. Statistically, is impossible. There is no answer, no options.


2402d0 No.5488627

>>5488548

> Most branches of Protestantism have no ideological opposition to gay marriage or female clergy.

It's because Protestantism is jewified christianity. Read Micael E jones 'the jewish revolutionary spirit and it's impact on world history'. All those pro-israel christians are protestants.


d69904 No.5488653

>>5488579

$$$$

It isn't necessary to lift massive weights all day to be a successful alpha.

> dress well

> have a successful career

> understand charisma

> don't sit at home every night

> go be "out there" exposing yourself to opportunities often

It's not supposed to be easy. If everyone were capable of attracting a mate, natural selection wouldn't exist. The weird thing with us is we have much more choice and control over the end result. Being a neet weeb is 100% volitional… and if you're incapable of owning that responsibility then you're simply not a man worthy of a good woman. Your best shot at procreation is a dysfunctional relationship with a landwhale you impregnate.

> There is no answer, no options.

Cop out.


d4d118 No.5488716

>>5488327

>>5488351

The Romans did that too, so your Islam comparison is retarded and it's pretty obvious what you're trying.

You can go now.


479d34 No.5488772

>>5488260

>those posters

top kek i never noticed that before


64b96a No.5488792

>You'll be able to walk away, she wont. She'll yell, scream, and try to rape you, when she fails she'll throw a massive tantrum and hit you as hard as she can with her skinny little arms.

This, women don't get aroused at the drop of a hat with simple visual stimulus like men do but when they get going they have just as powerful a sex drive, usually more so, and they objectively get more pleasure out of sex (clitoris has almost twice as many nerve endings as anywhere on the penis, and they are capable of multiple orgasms). Taoist/Tantric sex gurus realized this in Ancient times, the analogy they used was boiling water, it takes a longer time to reach a full boil but it boils longer than a fire, which has greater intensity but burns itself out quicker and starts easier, Taoist practices were focused on balancing those two forces to ensure that the boil lasts as long as possible and the fire doesn't burn too quickly so to speak. Women's sex drive is different from men's but every bit as powerful.


1747db No.5488823

File: 1458605393573.jpg (76.42 KB, 556x400, 139:100, 1385512456480.jpg)

No wonder you autists don't get any, you are all obsessed with women.

Can we have at least ONE fucking week without having THIS THREAD AGAIN?


bce410 No.5488899

File: 1458605681977.jpg (25.98 KB, 335x415, 67:83, 1430445505198.jpg)

>>5487150

>you'll be able to walk away

True, but then I'll have blue balls for the next 4 hours

fuck that shit man


285e68 No.5489454

>>5488351

The problem with Islam is all the shitskins that practice it. I wouldn't mind a strict white supremacist version of Islam, but that doesn't exist, so Islam's useless to us.


606b3f No.5489981

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

reminds me of a paglia interview

12:30 , or right at 15m

tl;dr- "if you go back to his room, you consent to sex. gay men know this, women should know this."

body language and implied consent and shit


c3b1f3 No.5490436

>>5486459

>The seventh time, I was raped by my friend.

>seventh time

>seven

She's not very good at learning from experience, is she?


c972a0 No.5490586

>>5490436

I suppose it is misleading without any other context. But no, these were from a list of times she was "sexually assaulted." She does not actually claim to have been raped was not actually raped all of those times.

I hesitate to offer any more examples here because it's such a rich and varied tapestry of a free-falling, unmitigated descent to degenerate hedonism (I think she's Jewish and now a lesbian, lol) and I've already painted a monochrome picture of it by quoting one.

Link is in the op if you care to read all of it.


d1b133 No.5490681

More importantly how often does /pol/ have to teach you that women have brains on the same level of children?


5c16d1 No.5490745

>>5487267

Sex with a child is always wrong. Children are not sexual beings, you have to go through puberty. Those who engage in that act are DEGENERATES; they are doing something for no purpose (other than perhaps their own selfish pleasure).

If you want to talk about /pol/ following their beliefs through to their logical conclusion; then we have to believe that sex not for pro-creation is degenerate. That's a fair and rather uncomfortable position for many to take, but it is logically consistent with our beliefs.

Your shit is just shit. Die in a fire you SJW faggot.


859c37 No.5490795

>>5490586

Basically it amounts to:

"I have massive mental insecurities that make me do things to validate my unhappy existence, but since the only thing I won't do is self improvement, I'm going to degenerate in every conceivable way possible until I can't handle my life anymore, fall into depression, and kill myself."

I fell genuinely bad for fags these days because their community of real fags is infested with rainbow hair sacks of shit who are just using them as a way to avoid looking at themselves in a mirror. SJW's piss us the fuck off but hell at least we don't have to spend time with them.


1b03fd No.5490858

>>5490745

>Sex with a child is always wrong. Children are not sexual beings, you have to go through puberty. Those who engage in that act are DEGENERATES;

Worse than that, the permanent damage they cause to these children moves the condemnation WAAAAAY past mere degenerate.

Into the fucking ovens with them; don't even waste time on the gassing part.


6ceb45 No.5490921

>>5489981

Good taste man. Paglia is based as fuck.


73be7c No.5491118

File: 1458616870605.png (104.63 KB, 560x642, 280:321, 1448805072725-0.png)

Why are my knees so soggy?

why do I hate them so God damn much


77086f No.5491128

File: 1458616910195.jpg (14.63 KB, 236x237, 236:237, 1451013587954-3.jpg)

>>5489981

>If you advertise, you better be ready to sell

I was blind, but now I see.


bc0d0d No.5491769

>>5486459

There is only one thing that will keep them in line, and even that will only work for the best of them. Give them no excuses. Ever. Even if they were legit raped, how can you know they did everything they could to prevent it unless they know you and society as a whole will ditch them if they are raped? No fucking around under any circumstances. If you value virginity, horseback riding won't cut it.

I say this as a guy designed to not be monogamous. No excuses.

>>5487150

I think it is more because they have a lifetime of being princesses pandered to, and not a lifetime of self-denial.


bc0d0d No.5491991

>>5486459

There is only one thing that will keep them in line, and even that will only work for the best of them. Give them no excuses. Ever. Even if they were legit raped, how can you know they did everything they could to prevent it unless they know you and society as a whole will ditch them if they are raped? No fucking around under any circumstances. If you value virginity, horseback riding won't cut it.

I say this as a guy designed to not be monogamous. No excuses.

>>5487150

I think it is more because they have a lifetime of being princesses pandered to, and not a lifetime of self-denial.


bc0d0d No.5491993


11aa34 No.5502705

>>5486459

>I found myself underneath him

this is my favorite part – this sort of passive language, which one always finds in these accounts

he didn't get on top of her, she didn't get underneath him… she simply found herself underneath him

how did this happen? did someone's decisions lead to this circumstance? no, it's a mysterious naturally occurring and totally unforeseeable phenomenon beyond mortal comprehension

some women seem perpetually baffled at how they end up having sex with various guys, little surprise they end up being 'raped'




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