/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

I think the problem of talking about the "holocaust" is that people tend to conflate some terms. I likely suspect some parties do this out of a strict bias.

In this case, when people say "holocaust", they tend to mean "systematic and purposeful elimination of people with a Jewish ethnicity". Which is often conflated with "oppression of the jews", "jews dying while in interment", and "jews dying at all".

So from most direct to most indirect, we have a sort of acending level of maliciousness. From least to most:

1. Jews never died from anything even war-time related

2. Jews dying at all

3. Jews dying while in interment

4. Jews dying from direct or overt oppression

5. Jews dying from an attempt at systematic extermination

I think the problem is when people try to go away from the facts we have from history, and head towards whatever position they are bias towards. In this case, I often seem nazi apologist try to imply a 1 or 2, which is clearly not historically accurate. But then mainstream media (and society in general) tries to push 5, of which there is startling little evidence for (and most of the evidence directly contradicts this).

Just something I think about.

>>5491361

Good effort, but you need to improve on how you speak. Your voice is really creepy and sound pubecent as fuck. Borderline autism.

Dosen't throw off a good nationalistic vibe. I think you'd do a better job at researching rather than speaking.

Still appreciate the effort coming from you and Elagon.

>>5491457

What most people don't understand is that the Germans tried to deport their jews before the war with the Haavara Agreement, but once the fighting commenced this became impossible. Whether it's morally frowned upon or not, the jews were largely seen as either communist radicals or sympathizers and Germany thought it in the best national interest to intern them in prison camps until the war was finished.

These camps were surprisingly hospitable at the beginning of the war, very comparable to japanese internment camps in the US, where prisoners had access to a swimming pool/sports teams/theater/opera and even an infirmary which remained operational until the very end of the war (strange thing to have if your goal is to kill all the jews). Unfortunately, as the war progressed and Germany was getting their ass handed to them from both fronts, resources completely dried up and they didn't have enough supplies to feed their own soldiers let alone prisoners. German citizens were getting fire bombed in their own cities and the whole country was laid to waste, and unfortunately, many jews died due to lack of food and sanitation which resulted in a typhus epidemic (the Red Cross initially estimated about 300,000 deaths but this quickly ballooned into outrageous numbers like 6 million).

If Germany had never been ravaged in the war, their camps would always have been as clean and habitable as the ones we had for the japanese. WWII is an enormous tragedy where there are no true "good guys" and "bad guys", but the systematic transport of millions of jews all over Europe to only six camps in Poland for gassing is an unfortunate and baseless lie.

Nice videos lad

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>>5491361

But why do we still care about the lolocausg and ==Nice Book==

>>5491361

Also tell Elagon not to show her face.

I like the loli complex she has.

bump for you cause begging. :^)

>>5491457

> I think the problem of talking about the "holocaust" is that people tend to conflate some terms.

Not really, the "holocaust" is this and only this:

> 5 Jews dying from an attempt at systematic extermination

The problem is that people who believe it's real will use deaths from 1-4 as evidence since there is, like you said, no real evidence of 5.

The problem is that there is no presumption of innocence. It doesnt even exist in our courts, it certainly doesnt exist with this propaganda.

If you look at the holocaust through the lens of the presumption of innocence you'd never believe it.

My reason is simple and only requires one line.

Every jew is a liar until proven otherwise by a gentile.

If not for the shitty music and bad editing this would be the perfect redpill on the subject. Pretty sure in a hundred years Ernst Zundel will be remembered as one of the most important figures of the 20th century.

They could cremate the body in a short amount of time, modern crematoriums do it for longer to make sure everything is ashes. The camps would have had no concern for the aesthetics of the dead.

>>5491361

It's not a belief, it's a reality.

You fucking belief-fag.

Go to IsraHell.

>>5491544

I hope a schwartze rapes you in prison you dirty anti-semite

>>5491361

You either have a very feminine American voice.

Or a very good speaking voice for a Scandinavian.

>Why I believe the holocaust never happened

Because there's not a single, credible picture or film of the Holocaust as it actually happened.

We're all supposed to believe that 11-20 million people (6 million of which were "god's chosen people") were murdered by the NSDAP with Zyklon B gas chambers and diesel exhaust rooms, but either…

A) Not a single picture and/or film was taken of the Holocaust as it actually happened or the immediate aftermath.

B) Pictures and/or films of the Holocaust were taken by the NSDAP but every single copy was either destroyed or lost before they could be seized by the Allies.

…That is a huge leap of faith to take in order to believe that the Holocaust happened. I'm not willing to take it.

Especially when people's lives are ruined for questioning, disagreeing or criticizing the Holocaust narrative.

Just though I'd give my reasoning as to why I believe the Holocaust didn't happen as well.

>>5491955

>Because there's not a single, credible picture or film of the Holocaust as it actually happened.

That's because the Nazis destroyed the paper trial, or were ordered not to commit anything to paper. There is also no paper trail that documents the orders to not commit anything to paper. And furthermore, there is also no paper trail of the paper trail that documents the orders to not commit anything to paper. The Nazis destroyed any and all documents relating to the paper trail of the paper trail of the paper trail of the orders to hide the holocaust.

Checkmate goy.

>>5492037

>That's because the Nazis destroyed the paper trial, or were ordered not to commit anything to paper. There is also no paper trail that documents the orders to not commit anything to paper. And furthermore, there is also no paper trail of the paper trail that documents the orders to not commit anything to paper. The Nazis destroyed any and all documents relating to the paper trail of the paper trail of the paper trail of the orders to hide the holocaust.

Exactly…we're just supposed to assume that every single document on the Holocaust (paper, report, photo and film) was destroyed or didn't exist in the first place?

Give me a break…

>>5491955

I don't believe it simply because it doesn't make any logistical sense

If you wanted to gas people, it would have been trivial to pump pure nitrogen into a room to suffocate everyone to death in 15 minutes. Painless too, and less dangerous to clean up.

But even then, the crematoriums would have consumed a substantial amount of Germany's coal, just for burning the bodies - which don't simply burn on their own, let alone reduce to nothing but ashes.

And even with the cremators, there would still be hundreds of millions of teeth left, and nobody's ever found literal mountains of teeth from these cremated bodies.

It's all fucking hogwash.

>>5491544

I think the Japanese and Russians definitely qualify as bad guys. The systematic abuse of prisoners of war, civilians, and even their own citizens attests to that.

As stated above - work on your speaking skills, because you sound autistic. Work also on your editing skills, noticed few jumps there and mistakes. If you made a mistake on recording your line, don't edit one word, just the whole sentence. Try to remember how far your mouth was from microphone and your position why recording, so most people won't notice changes in sound.

Post some more links to sources so goyim may check it.

6/10 pretty good, but you've got some work to do. Good luck OP.

>>5492777

Not really, that's normal behavior for Russians and japs, they don't care about anyone who's not one of them and they treat their own like shit.

>>5491544

Haavara Agreement, thanks for that tip anon, also for any interested, check out the Evian Conference, another attempt by Germany to peacefully expel the Jews

Good effort. I have some criticisms though. Please don't be offended by them, I'm trying to help.

First of all, you sound autistic as hell. You have to slow down and think about your sentences. Read from a pre-written script if you have to.

Second, saying "I think" and stuff like that is a no-go.

Third, you started with a Landser (I think) song right off the bat and then launched into a conspiracy theory. Is this video for normies or for us?

Stick to plain old facts. Don't add your own opinions, don't mention conspiracy shit at all. Just "this piece of evidence says X,Y,Z" and let people decide for themselves.

Also, to properly tackle this subject, your vid is going to need to be AT LEAST an hour.

>>5491544

I've always found it amusing how Zionists can't seem to keep their story straight on which camps they purport had gas chambers as the evidence slowly builds against their favour with a free Internet.

There was this really annoying Israelite on the /tv/ board who used to pop up in every single thread remotely connected to Jews or WW2, and start spewing his propaganda, and I would always catch him out on this.

>>5492777

Japs just had a very different ideology. They believed anyone who surrendered instead of dieing in combat was a worthless coward lower than a rat. The deep-rotted beliefs upon which their militarisitc nation was predicated allowed them to do what they did without a second thought. Their ideology was fucked from the very top-down and had to be rooted out very quickly after their surrender.